I might have thought too much into it and though it was a joke about how warped her sense of lifespan must be with the whole family being functionally immortal.
@@JadedKid47 There is a high possibility I missed a series or two but to my knowledge Talia never used the pits just her father and Bruce one time but most don't talk about that one.
@@zomfraggerin the comics it's often implied that she's far older than she looks either due to the Pit or due to her being a metahuman who can age slower.
@@zomfragger she was 150 in the lazarus Affair but that got removed from Canon post Crisis likely because O'Neil did not like it. However gotham knights there is a email that states she has been i nthe pit 4 times. however in Batman Incorporated Vol 2 13 She was shot in the head and killed. she is revived by falling into a pit during the robin rises event.
That picture was taken out of the comics. Though the style is in the graphics of this presentation. I wouldn’t have thought that anyone would have had a camera handy where the original scene was depicted, presented.
@@conangod00 okay. I’m not sure what you mean But if I get the right idea, what I meant was the setting in which the picture was supposed to have been taken. And the time. Please note that the story of the Al Ghuls predates the digital era. As we know it. I wouldn’t have thought that too many people would have just had a very portable camera handy. Did I get you right ?
I'm so thrilled they gave Alfred the morose reaction I imagined he would have for the return of Damian's egotistical mom! Small detail, I know, but loved it!
In her mind, she is actually beyond happy that Bruce still keeps this photo. But presenting herself as Nightwing‘s new “Bat-Daddy“, is just cringe or sus.
I never thought i would say this, but i feel so sorry for Damian... I mean his father is wreck, who started zombie Apocalypse just because he could not deal with his issues(Kevin's Conroy's Bats at least admitted that he has issues.. LOTS OF ISSUES). and his mother tried to buy a freakin' pacifier for 12-year old kid 😂😂 Damian should thank the god that Alfie, Dick and Barbara were with him...
Yeah, this show really takes a lot of jabs at the main heroes, which makes sense in context, since the protagonists are not heroes. It's mostly why I've decided to stay away from it. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's definitely creative and a lot of dedication is put into it. But it just didn't interest me as much anymore because I'm all down for a critique of a fictional character, but you do it too many times and it gets kind of annoying. Also, Conroy's Batman is considered to be one of the best ones of all time, not just because of his complexity (I mean, he appeared in six different shows spanning his entire lifetime), but also because he showed the most important part of Batman: his overwhelming compassion, his capacity to love, the "Knight" in the "Dark Knight". The same guy that dodged Darksied's Omega Beams and stared Superman down with Kryptonite also sat by a dying girl's side until her time came, comforted Baby Doll during her breakdown, helped Harley Quinn get better, held a soft spot for Mr. Freeze, and so much more. Kevin Conroy is right up there with Adam West in the Batman world, and he will be missed terribly.
Contrary to popular opinion, Talia originally was never an evil psychopath. She was someone who literally wanted to save the planet. But only die hard bat fans know that. You had to have read “Son of the Demon” where Bruce & Talia were willingly in love. That sex was definitely consensual lol Bruce was head over heals for Talia. Don’t blame him though.
Funny...then why did he not F*** her in DC Special Series Vol 1 15, you know...the issue they are forcefully wed in? Funny that he also starts dating Catwoman right after O'Neil's run is finished and its O'Neil who marries them...almost a year after Earth two batman and Catwoman's daughter Debuted in DC Super-Stars 17 (along with there wedding on earth two)...funny thing about O'Neil....he hated Catwoman, liked Bruce with his creation Talia and was Batmans primary editor from 1986-2000, and Catwoman's editor for much of that time...and was likely the one to piece together what would remain of batman's canon post Crisis and what would go out. (not to mention bruce was forced to trust Talia with his identity as in her first experience she literally removes his cowl after her father's men beat him unconscious) i have read BSOD it made me sick how talia treated Bruce in that. Batman kills Qayin in it, (who Talia wanted dead)...Talia kills when Bruce had ordered Non-lethal force to be used by the league from that point on. Ra also forces Bruce to accept the forced marriage to Talia in order to reserve help against Qayin. Taila gives up Damian at the end...its from Earth-85...not New Earth...or its proper designation of earth-1985🤷♂, so give me the issue BSOD was made canon to Earth-ZERO...but know i will check the reference.
@@gundanium3126 Believe me I know about Denny. May his beautiful soul rest. He created 1 of my 2 favorite DC characters of all time in Lady Shiva. Debuting in “The Question”. I’m just pointing out that not every version of Talia drugs and rapes Bruce. That was Morrison’s doing. I honestly will never forgive him for that because look what’s happened since…A whole animated movie adaptation was made with her doing that. Just for him to come out later and say “my bad guys I fucked up”. Smfh. However, most of the characters I like are shallow versions of themselves nowadays. I.E Lady Shiva.
@@AgeoftheGeek_ What talia does to Batman in BSOD is far worse SAing him. she turns him into a murderer at the end of it after choosing her father over Bruce.🤷♂
@@AgeoftheGeek_ PS: 1: Lady Shiva did not first appear in the question she first appeared in Richard Dragon, Kung-Fu Fighter Vol 1 5. 2: a LOT of Catwoman fans likely hate O'Neil for how he treated her for 14 years. given He hated her he approved of portrayal in Batman: Dark knight returns, Batman year one, Catwoman Vol 1(her sisters keeper) Catwoman vol 2 1-63...Batman: Bloodstorm and likely Especially for Batman: Dark Allegiances...if you have read it you will know what I am talking about.
to be fair to Talia she's lived for quite a long time. I understand her perception of time getting iffy consider the trips to the Lazarus pit could screw your brains a bit.
I'm actually surprised to see her. But I'm OPEN to Talia, IF this show treats her right. I've heard praises that Catwoman was given a personality/character beyond Bruce's on/off gf. I would like the same for Talia. Though if I'm catching this right, did like how Nightwing looked at her when she couldn't recognize her son (though to be fair he also left when Damian was young). Almost like a protective hen. IF I'm reading that right. He probably didn't want her in charge
O'Neil did prevent some character growth for Italian in the 14 years he was primary editor on the batman books from 1986-2000. Talia kills 2 innocent Wayne Industries employees in the episode, which is entitled B.I.T.C.H. (⬅The actual name of the episode). Catwoman has always had her own personality outside of her relationship with Batman. from what has been hinted in this episode and the one before this Talia Is being brought in as a Antagonist, and bruce did not want her in charge. She literally wants to use Wayne Industries to funnle funds to start conflicts in the world...she states that in the episode!
She wasn’t given a good personality and no, it’s the same shiny loving/Promiscuous personality she always has turned to 100. This show takes one aspect of a character’s personality and exaggerates it like how Grayson wants to be LIKE Bruce but be his own man. He changes his voice like him and shows a ton of the same traits. Aside from being a simp for Catwoman.
@@herloss448 talking about how both on the surface, do a lot of ecoterrorism schemes, secondly I was thinking about the obvious part when it turns out he was just using her for his own ends,
Umm yeah just looked up Conservator and she is not going to be happy. Legally Conservator is a person appoint to maintain financial responsibility should someone become medically or psychologically unable to. This means yes Talia has legal authority over Damien due to her being Damien's biological mother she does not have authority over Bruce's assets because he is in jail and not in a mental hospital. Also Bruce doesn’t run Wayne Enterprise Lucas Fox does as CEO. Now she could get access to Bruce's financial assets as legal guardian of Damien.
Of which she is not. Bruce is Damien's legal guardian and Alfred is more than likely the God Father in the event Bruce dies. Hell Alfred's more than likely been designated as "Legal next of kin" bc he's been with the Wayne family for so long.
@@furionmax7824 There is something else that could put things in Alfred's and Dick's favor. That is Talia is a known terrorist to both the Justice League and the US government. One phone call and she is on a one way trip to a undisclosed location.
Now that the season is over I’m really confused why they made such a big deal out of Talia in the first half but then basically shoved her out of the story in the second half. It feels like the writers were going to make her the big bad of the season but then decided that they liked her too much and made it Lex instead.
Turning them into a parody but keeping their core characteristics Harley Quinn hit almost every ball out of the park in this one but, why did HBO Velma fail so much in every aspect?
@@magallanesagustin4952Harley Quinn was made by people who care about the source material but also doesn’t take itself too seriously while Velma just tries to be mature with cursing and “woke” material
You know exactly why it failed. the very core concept was rotten from the start. I wouldnt be surprised if Mindy Kalling took the project just to burn it out of some grudge.
Jason has been mentioned a few times. Joker outright saying his name in a flashback when taunting Bruce with his death and then later appearing in Harley’s contact list as red hood with him in full costume on the profile pic
@@DDarkestKnightdon’t worry it’s DC, no one stays dead for long… unless you are apart of an origin story, then you’ll get the occasional “brought back but at a price/ evil” situation.
@aniocitex1131 There referring to Maternal grandfather. We have no idea if he is dead for good or just hiding Or whatever. Remember that it's canon that his Lazarus pits are having less and less of an effect on him. That's the reason he targeted bruce in the first place. To make his heir. You could easily see damien as just setting the ground work for when Bruce "finally sees the futility of his superheroism and see his way of things and joins his side!" ( He's always been pretentious like that. Makes a lot of sense being that he's a dark mirror into what bruce would become if he Let his worst traits get the better of him. Joker is what would happen to him if he finally let his insanity get the better. Ra's Is what he would become if he became an extremist in Fighting crime and Chaos. In a "he who fights monsters" sort of way!)
No, no, she said "pulled funds from," not "funds important..." etc. In other words, by using his wealth to become Batman, Bruce has been able to keep that money away from organizations like the LoA or Chevron. But, now that he's in jail and Talia has the emergency powers (for some reason), she is going to use that same wealth to support the LoA around the globe.
This version of Batman's world is crazy but I prefer this Damien. A non-murderous, quite normal kid who'd actually love to have a caring and normal relationship with his parents. And he's actually working together with his siblings! Yes please! 🙏
The sad thing is, she didn't even know that was her own son, sitting in front of her. She was not thinking about him during the time she was gone, and if she did spare a thought, she kept him as a baby in her mind. The least she could have done was mistake Nightwing for Damian, or addressed Damian as a stranger, that would be better than thinking he was still a baby.
Honestly, I'm kinda glad that this Bruce is in jail right now. His slowly-healing psyche is way to vulnerable to deal with this bullshit at the moment. There are only so many crazy exes one man can take at time, and he should probably go for the least crazy one, aka Selina. And yes, this Selina is crazy because she is a kleptomaniac (aka she is addicted to stealing). Or hell, go with Zatanna: friends since childhood, share a mental link, strongest magician in the universe, can have fun banter and serious conversations, is hot of course, and most importantly, can keep a cool head.
Harley: Well, who's that cashmere Goddess? Alfred: A genuine rapist. Harley: Oh shit, really? Alfred: She essentially pulled a Bill cosby on master Bruce, yes. That was how young master Damien was born. Harley: She sounds like a psychotic monster. Alfred: Quite. Yet this show wishes to overlook that little detail in order to maintain the narrative of her being a, how you say, "girl boss." Harley: Well, that's dumb. Alfred: Indeed. Crimes of a sexual predatory nature are not applicable when men are the victims, I fear. Harley: Damn.
Let’s be honest, does anyone actually like Talía? She drugged Batman into conceiving Damian (the literal definition of date-rape), brainwashed her son into being a psychopathic murderer before dropping him off on Batman’s doorstep, continues to be a leading member in a death cult, and is overall does an awful person. I swear, I will never understand why Batman tolerates her.
It was around this point in the series that I started wondering exactly how much time had passed in-universe. Isn't Batgirl still a newbie too? Or has it been a few years?
This is basically a show about mentally ill person disguised as a Batman animated series. Every scene with Harley shows signs of weird behavior presented as comedy.
Is Damien still Bruce's rape baby in this universe? And yes, Talia drugging Bruce to make him sleep with her is most definitely rape under pretty much every definition of the term.
@@azrael_pendragonI'm assuming you meant talk, not take. And in that case, yes. Damian is a talkative and deeply sarcastic little shit in just about every iteration who brings it up half the time himself. The other half the time it comes up in conversation between Talia and Bruce with him accusing her of being a terrible person, mother, influence, etc. (although, it's not really an accusation so much as a summary of her character since she is a psychopathic assassin who lies, cheats, steals, cons, and murders to get what she wants). Occasionally, it's brought up by Alfred, Nightwing, other members of the bat family when they're reminding Bruce of his past bad decisions (like dating Talia to begin with, before she raped him) and even other villains when they're taunting Bruce.
@@jowolf2187 that's just the new 52 onwards Talia. And while she did do that to batman, batman did say it wasn't all bad. Basically he didn't mind the actual just the fact that she drugged him.
@@samuelebincoletto637 From what I understand, part of is is that she just…doesn’t usually have blue eyes. But the other part seems to be because a lot of versions of Talia post the OG get whitewashed despite her being canonically Arab. She not only repeatedly gets given much lighter skin tones, but she gets more Eurocentric features, in this case blue eyes.
Personally, I think that Damian having blue eyes is definitely plausible. I mean, if the genes allow it, the slim chance is there. However, Talia having blue eyes is a new for me, too. Though, if you're looking for reasons to not like this show, I would go for something more "big picture" (ie characterization, plotlines, statements they might make, etc.)
@@bluebay1031 Also, Ra`s and Talia are both descended from Chinese nomads from the Eastern Roman(Byzantine for us Westerners although some locals regard that as a slur) Empire who migrated to Egypt in hopes of escaping religious and ethnic persecution in Europe, as you can probably guess that did not exactly go well.
Nightwing’s face when Talia couldn’t recognize Damien sitting right in front of her though 😂.
😠😒 So, how many days did Talia survive from a jet crash?
@@jayli5738what?
I might have thought too much into it and though it was a joke about how warped her sense of lifespan must be with the whole family being functionally immortal.
That’s prolly cause, in some continuities, Nightwing has done more effort raising Damian than Bruce and Talia combined
Didn’t she raise him till he was 4 or 10?
Oh God Bruce is the stable parent
Uhh stable you mean make zombies cause he couldn't handle his trauma. Yeah he's stable.
@@Moonstone2732What would you rather Parental Issues or trying to start World War 3 to win and rule over everyone in the end?
@@Moonstone2732stable parent, not stable child
No that's Alfred
I assume you mean when compared to Talia. He didn’t even ask or consent to having the kid, but managed to make his relationship with Damian work.
and now Damien needs twice the psychiatric treatment he's already been getting.
Harley: "Cha-ching!"
Harley’s on it
Nightwing he's been getting therapy
Lets see, zero... times zerooooo... zero! He's going to get zero psychiatric treatment!
@@westrim Sorry, but we were talking about how much he *needs*, not how much he *gets*.
Kinda typical for rich/influential parents to be so out of touch with their own kids. At least Batman tried to give his son some love and guidance.
Talia is also a Lazarus pit immortal so she might not have a standard conception of the passage of time or the process of aging
@@JadedKid47 There is a high possibility I missed a series or two but to my knowledge Talia never used the pits just her father and Bruce one time but most don't talk about that one.
@@zomfragger The DC wiki says she is 150 years old although it cites a 1981 Pre-Crisis story
@@zomfraggerin the comics it's often implied that she's far older than she looks either due to the Pit or due to her being a metahuman who can age slower.
@@zomfragger she was 150 in the lazarus Affair but that got removed from Canon post Crisis likely because O'Neil did not like it. However gotham knights there is a email that states she has been i nthe pit 4 times. however in Batman Incorporated Vol 2 13 She was shot in the head and killed. she is revived by falling into a pit during the robin rises event.
Im starting to see why Damian is the way he is
ironically unlike Bruce, both of Damian's parent are alive and unlikely to die (permanently) anytime soon.
@@crimsoncrusader4829 And unlike Bruce, Damian's parents parenting is below average
Yeah, there is a reason why Damien speaks so highly Ra’s Al Ghul. He may have pushed him, but he was way more paternalistic than both of his parents.
Batman, casually keeping a framed picture of himself shirtless (but still masked) making out with Talia on his mantlepiece.
That picture was taken out of the comics. Though the style is in the graphics of this presentation. I wouldn’t have thought that anyone would have had a camera handy where the original scene was depicted, presented.
is that not normal? should I take mine off my mantle piece?
@@conangod00 okay. I’m not sure what you mean But if I get the right idea, what I meant was the setting in which the picture was supposed to have been taken. And the time. Please note that the story of the Al Ghuls predates the digital era. As we know it. I wouldn’t have thought that too many people would have just had a very portable camera handy. Did I get you right ?
@@mendellrankin5076🤓🤓🤓
"Damian? Out of diapers already?"
And that told me ALL i needed to know about Talia's Role as a mother.😅
I'm so thrilled they gave Alfred the morose reaction I imagined he would have for the return of Damian's egotistical mom!
Small detail, I know, but loved it!
Funny how that picture of Bruce and Talia kissing is a reference to the scene from BTAS
In her mind, she is actually beyond happy that Bruce still keeps this photo.
But presenting herself as Nightwing‘s new “Bat-Daddy“, is just cringe or sus.
I'm gonna guess that in this universe she had a kid with Bruce solely to make sure he would inherite Wayne Enterprises.
Talia already comes from a rich and powerful family. Plus, she's already successful
@@WordlifemattI think it would be more about control
I’d say its more about inheriting “Batman” legacy. Wayne Enterprise is a secondary objective.
Damn... Damien just got burned by his mom, "out of diapers already, how long has it been."
I never thought i would say this, but i feel so sorry for Damian... I mean his father is wreck, who started zombie Apocalypse just because he could not deal with his issues(Kevin's Conroy's Bats at least admitted that he has issues.. LOTS OF ISSUES). and his mother tried to buy a freakin' pacifier for 12-year old kid 😂😂 Damian should thank the god that Alfie, Dick and Barbara were with him...
Yeah, this show really takes a lot of jabs at the main heroes, which makes sense in context, since the protagonists are not heroes. It's mostly why I've decided to stay away from it. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's definitely creative and a lot of dedication is put into it. But it just didn't interest me as much anymore because I'm all down for a critique of a fictional character, but you do it too many times and it gets kind of annoying.
Also, Conroy's Batman is considered to be one of the best ones of all time, not just because of his complexity (I mean, he appeared in six different shows spanning his entire lifetime), but also because he showed the most important part of Batman: his overwhelming compassion, his capacity to love, the "Knight" in the "Dark Knight". The same guy that dodged Darksied's Omega Beams and stared Superman down with Kryptonite also sat by a dying girl's side until her time came, comforted Baby Doll during her breakdown, helped Harley Quinn get better, held a soft spot for Mr. Freeze, and so much more. Kevin Conroy is right up there with Adam West in the Batman world, and he will be missed terribly.
@vicenzostella1390 its a comedy series.
@@guyshafor1320 Oh, I know. It just didn't click for me. I think we're all allowed to have taste in comedy, right?
@@vicenzostella1390 no dude, what the fuck?
Talia is better parent in this show than the comic because Damien lack the bloodlust meaning she didn't teach him how to kill
Contrary to popular opinion, Talia originally was never an evil psychopath. She was someone who literally wanted to save the planet. But only die hard bat fans know that. You had to have read “Son of the Demon” where Bruce & Talia were willingly in love. That sex was definitely consensual lol Bruce was head over heals for Talia. Don’t blame him though.
It's not the wanting to save the planet that's an issue. It's how you go about it. Also see: Pamela Isley.
Funny...then why did he not F*** her in DC Special Series Vol 1 15, you know...the issue they are forcefully wed in? Funny that he also starts dating Catwoman right after O'Neil's run is finished and its O'Neil who marries them...almost a year after Earth two batman and Catwoman's daughter Debuted in DC Super-Stars 17 (along with there wedding on earth two)...funny thing about O'Neil....he hated Catwoman, liked Bruce with his creation Talia and was Batmans primary editor from 1986-2000, and Catwoman's editor for much of that time...and was likely the one to piece together what would remain of batman's canon post Crisis and what would go out. (not to mention bruce was forced to trust Talia with his identity as in her first experience she literally removes his cowl after her father's men beat him unconscious)
i have read BSOD it made me sick how talia treated Bruce in that. Batman kills Qayin in it, (who Talia wanted dead)...Talia kills when Bruce had ordered Non-lethal force to be used by the league from that point on. Ra also forces Bruce to accept the forced marriage to Talia in order to reserve help against Qayin. Taila gives up Damian at the end...its from Earth-85...not New Earth...or its proper designation of earth-1985🤷♂, so give me the issue BSOD was made canon to Earth-ZERO...but know i will check the reference.
@@gundanium3126 Believe me I know about Denny. May his beautiful soul rest. He created 1 of my 2 favorite DC characters of all time in Lady Shiva. Debuting in “The Question”. I’m just pointing out that not every version of Talia drugs and rapes Bruce. That was Morrison’s doing. I honestly will never forgive him for that because look what’s happened since…A whole animated movie adaptation was made with her doing that. Just for him to come out later and say “my bad guys I fucked up”. Smfh. However, most of the characters I like are shallow versions of themselves nowadays. I.E Lady Shiva.
@@AgeoftheGeek_ What talia does to Batman in BSOD is far worse SAing him. she turns him into a murderer at the end of it after choosing her father over Bruce.🤷♂
@@AgeoftheGeek_ PS: 1: Lady Shiva did not first appear in the question she first appeared in Richard Dragon, Kung-Fu Fighter Vol 1 5.
2: a LOT of Catwoman fans likely hate O'Neil for how he treated her for 14 years. given He hated her he approved of portrayal in Batman: Dark knight returns, Batman year one, Catwoman Vol 1(her sisters keeper) Catwoman vol 2 1-63...Batman: Bloodstorm and likely Especially for Batman: Dark Allegiances...if you have read it you will know what I am talking about.
I love how the photo is a reference to Batman the animated series, clothes and everything
poor damian
"How long has it been?" is such a loaded question given how messed up DC made their timeline, especially in this show
Anywhere between 4-8 years big T
Damian was 4 in this version when he met NightWing and he’s now 13. NightWing is about 24 or so now
Wow,you made me feel bad for Damien. Well done show
7 years was what he said to night wing when he was twelve so 11-12 years to be exact
I wasn’t expecting her to appear in the show. What do you think will happen when she discovers that her “beloved” was with another woman?
I looked her up, and it says that they’re divorced.
@@michaelirazori9214 I was surprised that they were married.
@@Narutonarutonaruto85 I forgot was Damien planned or a product of Talia slipping Bruce a roofie?
@@Sweet_Venom0027in the comics usually a roofie but in this show I have no idea probably the same thing for all we know
@@Sweet_Venom0027 She did slip him a roofie. He wasn't planned on Bruce's part, but I think Talia wanted his baby. At least in most versions.
to be fair to Talia she's lived for quite a long time. I understand her perception of time getting iffy consider the trips to the Lazarus pit could screw your brains a bit.
Exactly 😂
I'm actually surprised to see her. But I'm OPEN to Talia, IF this show treats her right. I've heard praises that Catwoman was given a personality/character beyond Bruce's on/off gf. I would like the same for Talia. Though if I'm catching this right, did like how Nightwing looked at her when she couldn't recognize her son (though to be fair he also left when Damian was young). Almost like a protective hen. IF I'm reading that right. He probably didn't want her in charge
O'Neil did prevent some character growth for Italian in the 14 years he was primary editor on the batman books from 1986-2000. Talia kills 2 innocent Wayne Industries employees in the episode, which is entitled B.I.T.C.H. (⬅The actual name of the episode). Catwoman has always had her own personality outside of her relationship with Batman. from what has been hinted in this episode and the one before this Talia Is being brought in as a Antagonist, and bruce did not want her in charge. She literally wants to use Wayne Industries to funnle funds to start conflicts in the world...she states that in the episode!
She wasn’t given a good personality and no, it’s the same shiny loving/Promiscuous personality she always has turned to 100. This show takes one aspect of a character’s personality and exaggerates it like how Grayson wants to be LIKE Bruce but be his own man. He changes his voice like him and shows a ton of the same traits. Aside from being a simp for Catwoman.
@@ArtryomSome people don't know what personality is. They're too shallow.
@@seekeroftruth45 Exactly...
Been watching lately and she's fucking awesome
Anybody else getting the vibe that it would actually be in character for Ra's al Ghul to recruit Poison Ivy?
no
@@herloss448 talking about how both on the surface, do a lot of ecoterrorism schemes, secondly I was thinking about the obvious part when it turns out he was just using her for his own ends,
@@RoninRenActually they worked together in the comics
@@JLAAMERICA thank you😊😊😊
No but that's why Talia's here
"You can't blow kisses to villains" say that to Batman 😂😂
Lol. This Damian is going to grow up with more issues than the main line Damian.
Umm yeah just looked up Conservator and she is not going to be happy.
Legally Conservator is a person appoint to maintain financial responsibility should someone become medically or psychologically unable to.
This means yes Talia has legal authority over Damien due to her being Damien's biological mother she does not have authority over Bruce's assets because he is in jail and not in a mental hospital.
Also Bruce doesn’t run Wayne Enterprise Lucas Fox does as CEO.
Now she could get access to Bruce's financial assets as legal guardian of Damien.
Of which she is not. Bruce is Damien's legal guardian and Alfred is more than likely the God Father in the event Bruce dies. Hell Alfred's more than likely been designated as "Legal next of kin" bc he's been with the Wayne family for so long.
@@furionmax7824 There is something else that could put things in Alfred's and Dick's favor. That is Talia is a known terrorist to both the Justice League and the US government. One phone call and she is on a one way trip to a undisclosed location.
0:29 - 0:33
Talia: Wow this is Ivy's girlfriend?
Now that the season is over I’m really confused why they made such a big deal out of Talia in the first half but then basically shoved her out of the story in the second half. It feels like the writers were going to make her the big bad of the season but then decided that they liked her too much and made it Lex instead.
Imagine a custody battle between Bruce and Talia.
At least talia was serious about taking care of damian. Eventhough she has no idea how old he his 😂
Turning them into a parody but keeping their core characteristics Harley Quinn hit almost every ball out of the park in this one but, why did HBO Velma fail so much in every aspect?
Because they wanted to make something different and they left the vast majority of their audience dissatisfied.
@@a.g.styles3500 Harley Quinn did something different, too. The problem with Velma is that they just dropped a deuce over the source material.
@@magallanesagustin4952Harley Quinn was made by people who care about the source material but also doesn’t take itself too seriously while Velma just tries to be mature with cursing and “woke” material
@@JM-fr5gebruh this show is "woke" af, Joker literally runs for mayor as a socialist 😂😂
You know exactly why it failed. the very core concept was rotten from the start. I wouldnt be surprised if Mindy Kalling took the project just to burn it out of some grudge.
Holy bats, I had no idea the show had all the bat kiddos too omg. I really need to watch this even more than i already did now
>all the bat kiddos
Eh were still missing a few. But the most core bunch, sure
Jason has been mentioned a few times. Joker outright saying his name in a flashback when taunting Bruce with his death and then later appearing in Harley’s contact list as red hood with him in full costume on the profile pic
Jasons dead and Tim's ignored just like every other modern Bat animation
@@HELLO_KORO And people don't even know Duke, Cass, Luke, Steph, and Harper exist at all.
Jason, Tim, Duke, Steph, I can name a bunch more that sadly aren’t here 😔
Kinda glad Bruce is not here to witness this. His slowly-healing psyche is not at a stable point to deal with this bullshit at the moment.
I really hope this show gets a season 5
0:19 - that is the final goodbye scene of the "The Demon's Quest, Part 2" episode in B:TAS!
Thank god Damien’s Grampa not here.
He's probably dead. Again.
@@DDarkestKnightdon’t worry it’s DC, no one stays dead for long… unless you are apart of an origin story, then you’ll get the occasional “brought back but at a price/ evil” situation.
He might appear
@aniocitex1131 There referring to Maternal grandfather. We have no idea if he is dead for good or just hiding Or whatever. Remember that it's canon that his Lazarus pits are having less and less of an effect on him. That's the reason he targeted bruce in the first place. To make his heir. You could easily see damien as just setting the ground work for when Bruce "finally sees the futility of his superheroism and see his way of things and joins his side!" ( He's always been pretentious like that. Makes a lot of sense being that he's a dark mirror into what bruce would become if he Let his worst traits get the better of him. Joker is what would happen to him if he finally let his insanity get the better. Ra's Is what he would become if he became an extremist in Fighting crime and Chaos. In a "he who fights monsters" sort of way!)
Yeah, Ra’s would have been a bit much for this show
There’s nothing I love more then the last quarter of the video being covered in links
0:34 - 0:42 So Batman has been unknowingly funding the League of Assassins or Chevron?
No, no, she said "pulled funds from," not "funds important..." etc. In other words, by using his wealth to become Batman, Bruce has been able to keep that money away from organizations like the LoA or Chevron.
But, now that he's in jail and Talia has the emergency powers (for some reason), she is going to use that same wealth to support the LoA around the globe.
I like the reference to Batman the animated series at 0:19, I think the Harley Quinn series is a sequel to that series
It's not
@FlashMovies07 you sure?
@@TigersharkNation2691 Yeah.
If you say so
I love that she has a picture of Bruce with the cowel making out with Talia.
That diapers part always gets me🤣
Wow those mask seems effective even Thalia did not even see Damian being Robin.
Wow, mother of the year...
She later goes to trie to buy him a pacifier for a 12 year old? : /
Yeah, but instead, she buys him a rattle.
Why is nobody talking about "Bat Daddy" 😭😭😭
Aww, Harls was being so nice giving out a scone/cookie, Nightwig should have taken it
This version of Batman's world is crazy but I prefer this Damien. A non-murderous, quite normal kid who'd actually love to have a caring and normal relationship with his parents. And he's actually working together with his siblings!
Yes please! 🙏
Alfred's reaction is priceless 😂😂😂😂
Oh lovely Talia Al Ghul
0:19 i love how they used that scene from the og animated series
Nightwing the POWERBOTTOM
even his own mother doesn't even know he exist. well, at least they got a *psychiatrist* in the house.
The sad thing is, she didn't even know that was her own son, sitting in front of her. She was not thinking about him during the time she was gone, and if she did spare a thought, she kept him as a baby in her mind. The least she could have done was mistake Nightwing for Damian, or addressed Damian as a stranger, that would be better than thinking he was still a baby.
yeah, it's the curse of the bat family. well, at least bruce is more *human* in this show.
Damien's face
literally barked like a dog after seeing talia on screen u can be my new bat daddy queen
0:19 oh god, he kept the mask on!
Did Damien’s voice actor go through puberty?? The voice is different.
Yea
Yet when he voiced Luca and flounder his voice sounded exactly like Damien previous one.
@@nikolaspapanagnou2723 that’s the same guy?!?
@@ed_Skynight I'm surprised you didn't know it.
@@nikolaspapanagnou2723
His voice didn’t really seem recognizable I guess.
I know that this isn't that 70's show but God damn that mother of a burn.
Batman BTS flashbacks with that framed photo
I love Talia ❣️😍
I thought the scones were spotted dick, which is why I thought it was funny that she offered one to Dick.
When did she hand Damien over to him?
I think Nightwing mentioned Damian was 4 in an earlier season.
@@mireya6763That was the last time he saw Damian. It sounds like Talia left him with Bruce when he was a baby
No wonder damian isn't an as impressive fighter as comics and he lack bloodlust
Great, they even made Talia an asshole.
Holyshit this 90's animated series reference at 0:19
0:19- I remember that from Batman TAS
Awesome I love Harley Quinn
Talia..
Talia is here? Already?
That‘s not good, especially for Bruce.
Honestly, I'm kinda glad that this Bruce is in jail right now. His slowly-healing psyche is way to vulnerable to deal with this bullshit at the moment. There are only so many crazy exes one man can take at time, and he should probably go for the least crazy one, aka Selina. And yes, this Selina is crazy because she is a kleptomaniac (aka she is addicted to stealing).
Or hell, go with Zatanna: friends since childhood, share a mental link, strongest magician in the universe, can have fun banter and serious conversations, is hot of course, and most importantly, can keep a cool head.
@@vicenzostella1390u know zatanna is not a stable person right, her daddy complex are way beyond batman ex crisis,
@@vicenzostella1390u know zatanna is not a stable person right, her daddy complex are way beyond batman ex crisis,
@@vicenzostella1390Zatanna wiped Bruce memories hence he creating Brother Eye
Vigilante Cosplay Hobby? THE DISRESPECT
Talia Al Ghul is a bae
I’m kind of annoyed they didn’t give her the green eyes because they were like such a pretty color
THIS ALREADY CAME BACK?!??
Talia probably thought that Robin was another orphan boy that Batman took as his Robin
Harley: Well, who's that cashmere Goddess?
Alfred: A genuine rapist.
Harley: Oh shit, really?
Alfred: She essentially pulled a Bill cosby on master Bruce, yes. That was how young master Damien was born.
Harley: She sounds like a psychotic monster.
Alfred: Quite. Yet this show wishes to overlook that little detail in order to maintain the narrative of her being a, how you say, "girl boss."
Harley: Well, that's dumb.
Alfred: Indeed. Crimes of a sexual predatory nature are not applicable when men are the victims, I fear.
Harley: Damn.
Lol Talia acts like she owns the place
How dare she!!! "Batman" is not a hobby or cosplay!! It is a duty and an honor!
Being Bruce Wayne is cosplay
@@taraungoogle8482 EXACTLY!!! ❤️
To the Al Ghuls, the western legal systems aware a joke
Talia's voice reminding, like she is a Russian.
vigilante cosplay hobby💀
Oh you think.
And Bat-Bulls#*t XD, XD, XD. I keep playing that over and over.
Let’s be honest, does anyone actually like Talía?
She drugged Batman into conceiving Damian (the literal definition of date-rape), brainwashed her son into being a psychopathic murderer before dropping him off on Batman’s doorstep, continues to be a leading member in a death cult, and is overall does an awful person.
I swear, I will never understand why Batman tolerates her.
She is definetly a B.I.T.C.H. , and that's why everyone loves her.
🥴 u know why 🍰
Talia Al Ghul is a bae
Well she’s a villain
Actually she has a large fanbase also in many stories Bruce has chosen Talia over Selina many times
0:30 - in the comics talia fragrance is Chanel 0’5
the mask stays on -batman
The fact that the series ever existed is one of the greatest tragedies of DC entertainment🤬
the framed piture from TAS
I believe Damian barely even cares if she's around or not.
It could be so much better Jason shows up as their new stepfather it would be freaking hilarious
Like how people forget that
It was around this point in the series that I started wondering exactly how much time had passed in-universe. Isn't Batgirl still a newbie too? Or has it been a few years?
I think the entire show takes place within the same year.
Oh god the demoness
I don't like the blue eyes but everything else i can live with
rich influential parents dont usually give much attention to their children
This is basically a show about mentally ill person disguised as a Batman animated series. Every scene with Harley shows signs of weird behavior presented as comedy.
You thought any of these characters were mentally stable?
Has the new season started?
Yes with 3 episodes
yup
Is Damien still Bruce's rape baby in this universe? And yes, Talia drugging Bruce to make him sleep with her is most definitely rape under pretty much every definition of the term.
You think they take about how Damien was born in every universe?
@@azrael_pendragonI'm assuming you meant talk, not take. And in that case, yes. Damian is a talkative and deeply sarcastic little shit in just about every iteration who brings it up half the time himself. The other half the time it comes up in conversation between Talia and Bruce with him accusing her of being a terrible person, mother, influence, etc. (although, it's not really an accusation so much as a summary of her character since she is a psychopathic assassin who lies, cheats, steals, cons, and murders to get what she wants). Occasionally, it's brought up by Alfred, Nightwing, other members of the bat family when they're reminding Bruce of his past bad decisions (like dating Talia to begin with, before she raped him) and even other villains when they're taunting Bruce.
@@jowolf2187 that's just the new 52 onwards Talia.
And while she did do that to batman, batman did say it wasn't all bad. Basically he didn't mind the actual just the fact that she drugged him.
Absolutely devastated that they gave her blue eyes, its bad enough they do it to Damian
What's wrong with Talia having blue eyes?
@@samuelebincoletto637 From what I understand, part of is is that she just…doesn’t usually have blue eyes. But the other part seems to be because a lot of versions of Talia post the OG get whitewashed despite her being canonically Arab. She not only repeatedly gets given much lighter skin tones, but she gets more Eurocentric features, in this case blue eyes.
@@samuelebincoletto637 if I remember correctly she has green eyes not blue
Personally, I think that Damian having blue eyes is definitely plausible. I mean, if the genes allow it, the slim chance is there. However, Talia having blue eyes is a new for me, too. Though, if you're looking for reasons to not like this show, I would go for something more "big picture" (ie characterization, plotlines, statements they might make, etc.)
@@bluebay1031 Also, Ra`s and Talia are both descended from Chinese nomads from the Eastern Roman(Byzantine for us Westerners although some locals regard that as a slur) Empire who migrated to Egypt in hopes of escaping religious and ethnic persecution in Europe, as you can probably guess that did not exactly go well.
This is why he married Catwoman.
What movie is this?
❤❤❤ 0:19 the photo referencing their kiss in Batman The Animated Series
Actually , that scene originally came from the comics. Somewhere in my collection, I have “Tales Of The Demon”
@@mendellrankin5076 oooo nice. And that also means that Batman TAS has done their homework well
That BTAS reference
I feel bad for robin in this show already
What ep and season
I want catwoman to meet Thalia Al Ghoul they be best friend
А какой это сезон? 😢