@@ApoloChanel What have been doing about it? Fasting? Praying? Reading scripture? Worshipping God? The more connected you are to God, the easier it is to resist temptation. Rebuke the demons in Jesus’s name, and draw closer to God. ”No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.“ I Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV) Find the escape that God is providing you with. May God bless and guide and protect you with all of His means and resources. In Jesus’s name, Amen.
Honestly it’s great that you’re now doing good in life. But religion is a tool, that helped you. This is my issue with this religion. It’s not encouraging or recognizing individual strength but rather rely on some superficial image. Do you want to be a good human being because you are just so strong yourself, or because you are afraid of going to hell? I think the next step now is to believe in yourself and exit a cult.
Thank you so much for reacting to our Jubilee Middle Ground. I think you gave some really great insight regarding the questions and concerns that the Ex-Christians had. We brought up some of those same things during the conversation. I appreciate how you break things down, especially talking about God’s justice. 🙏🏽
I want to see productions like these bring on REAL/MATURE men and woman of God filled with the Holy Spirit. There are so many people who think that they are saved but aren’t because they don’t have a relationship with Jesus and their lifestyles show it.
you can be a christian that struggles with same sex attraction and recognizes that it's sin, but you cannot be a homosexual and a christian. the "homosexual christian" is someone that thinks it's just how they are and not a sin. Making it their identity. Telling God so much that "you can't enter this part of my life" and thinking it's ok with God. You're not saved if this is how you feel
Nah you bugging. Like most things in the Bible, gay acts are cherry picked. Just look at 1 Samuel 18:1-4 all the way to 20:41-42. King David & Prince Johnathan were hellllla gay.
@@misteriknow2069 Both you and the original commenter are incorrect. We are saved by Grace through Faith and not of works. The bible makes it very clear that Homosexuality IS sin, and just because people in the bible do wrong, that does not make it right. There are murderers, adulterers etc. in the bible, but that does not make these actions right.
@@turcman8684 the Bible was also OK with Slavery. Thankfully we live in a society not governed by outdated religious texts, but in a society that tries to implement “wrong from right” laws.
You are an absolute inspiration, so many questions were answered, many more I didn't know I had. Also some believes I subconsciously had were changed here. Thank you so much
God is using you! Love this message. The videos keep getting better and better. Stay close to the Lord, my friend. The enemy will continue to attack, but he’s a loser!
there is only one way to GOD and that way is through JESUS CHRIST spiritually and your spiritual eyes are opened to the truth . some christians are awake and some christians are asleep.
*1 John 2:19* Amplified Bible _They went out from us [seeming at first to be Christians], but they were not really of us [because they were not truly born again and spiritually transformed]; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out [teaching false doctrine], so that it would be clearly shown that none of them are of us._
When it comes to understanding Hell, I would highly recommend the book "The skeletons in God's closet". It really opened my eyes, and as crazy as it sounds, it makes me able to realize that hell is truly a measure of God's grace (it's crazy, I know, but read the book.)
THANK YOU for reacting to this Jubilee video. There were some AMAZING responses and exchanges from the christian’s on this panel. It would be great if you show some of their responses too. Especially Kytia (yellow sweater girl) and Johnny (red track suit). They had amazing exchanges and responses to the ex-christians.
Kytia was bat shit crazy 😂. Like she told innocent loving Jake he was going to hell strictly because he was gay and insulted him by saying it was a choice. Folks like Kytia is why Christianity & religion overall is a turn off for a lot of people. Like Hitler can say I believe in God and go to heaven but Jake who’s Catholic and a devout believer is going to hell because his lover is a he? Sounds like a cult to me.
2:21 "The Gospel is beautiful, I've fallen so hard, I'm guilty before God, and yet Jesus has come to forgive me"...that's a lot of mental gymnastics and emotional rollercoastering you put yourself through. I've been getting into Norse paganism and could say similar things about the Poetic and Prose Eddas, the Sagas, the Havamal (similar to book of Proverbs). They're beautiful, I've fallen hard, but 1) no dogma, and 2) I accept that the Sagas are pseudo-fictional accounts with some history mixed in written centuries after the actual events--something Christianity seems to struggle with, that acceptance--and yet these stories were what was important to the people who lived during that time. These stories hold the power to connect us still. If people could realize it is the story which creates the feeling, which creates in us a spark toward divine ACTION in our lives, and in service of others--rather than thinking these stories are what "save" us, or that we should beat up or proselytize to people who don't believe them--I think we'd all be able to respect each other's religious journeys a little better. And if I were a Christian living today, just a little tip here...I would seek the forgiveness of those I wronged before I felt right in seeking forgiveness from my God.
Man you are so wise. But I would’ve liked for you to react to the full video. There were things in there what I would’ve loved to see your take on. I know they were controversial and complex topic to deal with, but it would’ve been nice to see your reaction in the full context of the video and what each participant said in full context without cutting so much. Blessings brother
I have a question have any of you struggled with lust or perverted thoughts or adult content I struggle with controlling those thoughts it's even harder because I'm autistic which has a connection to hypersexuality or perverted thoughts that they can't control there's been many studies proving this I mainly get tempted at night time when I go to sleep. And when I wake up I have an urge to look it up for some reason but my brain is still not awake but I don't have a reason and I'm not thinking clearly on why I'm doing it it's just pure impulse Getting those thoughts in temptations in my head it's something I struggled with for a long time especially last night ( this hasn't been going on for really really long time for me and is just a hindrance in my walk with God and maybe the reason he doesn't talk to me or answer my prayers) It's something I've been struggling with recently the past couple months but lust in private thoughts I've been dealing with for years I don't want it in my life I don't to be away from God because of that sin and I don't want it to stop God from working in my life blessing me and stopping me from living a holy life And being a good husband because I want a good Godly wife( I'm still a virgin and I've never been in a relationship, and I do get frustrated about that) this has been going on for such a long time sometimes you feel like God doesn't want to help you because of your failures or that I know there's a way I can be free but I don't know how to get it cuz people say abiding in Christ or walking in the spirit I know that Christ died for everyone meaning meaning everyone can go to heaven that means everyone has the opportunity to overcome those sins they struggle with and get the victory they want
A good idea when you are going through this is to occupy your mind with something else. Often times when we are bored our thoughts drift and we have time to sit and think about them. I have found that when my own thoughts drift into lust, I can distract myself by doing something I'm interested in. Whether that's a hobby or watching a video on an interesting topic or creating something, just doing something that's fun. It's hard to initially do something else when those thoughts come up, but once you do it really, really helps because those thoughts do go away when you are focused on something else. The Bible says if we resist the devil, then He will flee from us. That's just one practical tip. Fill up your time with things that are meaningful. There's also videos from Christian TH-camrs adressing this topic that can give more practical tips. It's important to find practical steps you can actually take in every day life.
Those thoughts and temptations aren't something that goes away through yourself. You have to give yourself wholly over to Christ. If you feel tempted, pray, or reach out to a friend or family member to help ease your mind. Being responsible for keeping up with prayer or fighting the temptations by reaching out is all on you, but if you give yourself to Christ you can overcome. He will help you. God Bless brother.
I completely understand your frustration at this. What you have said so far is completely normal. You are brave to seek out help on this with others! Keep on doing this! To preface, you are not obligated to live by your flesh (sinful nature) and your selfish desires regardless of your autism. The Lord surpasses all of our conditions. Do not make an excuse for the your sin to overtake you. Expect that the Lord will help you with this lust. However, you must be willing to accept Christ in your life. Be eager to be honest with the Lord and do not be ashamed to cry out to Him. Confess your sins to the Lord! The Bible says to take each thought captive, to not let the enemy have a foothold in your life. To combat lust is to control your thoughts. The Holy Spirit allows us to practice self control. James in the Bible says consider the trials of your battle with lust to be joy, as an opportunity to combat sin! Be eager to stand against evil! This is building your character so that you can stand against your flesh and the enemy every day. Get some people around you that you can also share these thoughts with. Preferably other men to hold you accountable and that they themselves are believers as well. Don’t discredit your singleness. The Lord is your God regardless of your marital status. In fact, it is exceptionally better to be sanctified as you’re single before you marry so that you are coming into a relationship where you have grown spiritually mature. I urge you to keep a time dedicated to the Lord every day in prayer and in reading scripture! Get a Bible, a journal, and a quiet place where you can be alone with God. Remove as many distractions as possible from your environment so that your focus is on Jesus alone in the moment. Seek and you will find. The Lord will never leave you nor forsake you! Jesus loves you. He will not let you stay as you are, He will transform your life from the inside out. Then as you have the Holy Spirit within you, your actions will show the change that has occurred within you. You must keep pursuing the Lord. He will not give up on you! To get stronger you must train with weight and to endure the hardships that your perseverance will produce character in your life so that you can stand your ground! Get in relationship with the Lord and with other believers and trust in God’s will for your life! He will bless you immensely as you trust in Him. He will give you a peace that is hard to understand. He will give you wisdom! Start today to draw nearer to the Lord. He will strengthen you!
I may not exactly relate to you, but boy do I know a thing or two about lust and lustful thoughts. At a young age I was addicted to porn I eventually stopped watching it years later. I thought I was good but sometime after I allowed that sin to enter my life once again. I stopped myself from watching the content however the visuals stayed with me so heavily that I started imagining my own porn scenarios day and night. I also started doing things to myself!! Years later, I am now in college. I prayed to God for Him to replenish my mind and heal what is so corrupted. Temptation still tries to get me, but it's weak to my spirit. I can avoid sexual thoughts and actions more easily than before. I give God all the glory for helping me through this. He will do the same for you, you just have to do your part and keep fighting! (spiritually of course lol)
I'm glad God pushed me to scroll through the comments so that I could read this. It's crazy how similar your struggle is to mine. I will start by saying, I am woman, but that doesn't mean my struggle is much different. For the last 3 years, I have struggled with reading/viewing porn, masturbation, and intensified lustful thoughts because of this addiction. Living with this habitual sin has felt like my faith has been crippled. I have fallen into a deep depression, and I hardly have any care for myself. A coworker of mine has been trying to set me up on a blind date with a friend from his church, and as someone who has the desire for marriage, I have felt so unworthy and unclean to even consider the idea of dating. And if this is a sin that I will struggle with for more years to come, then I can't help but worry about if I will ever get to be in a relationship. The mere thought that I may not be able to give my parents grandchildren because I'm too messed up in the head sickens me. I've heard stories from other sisters in Christ that have prayed for God to strip them of these wicked desires, and He instantly redeemes them from it. And then there are stories more similar to mine where I pray for these desires to flee, and the Lord's answer is "No, not yet." Instead of walking in Christ's victory, I have let the wait of my sins absolutely demolish me into a person I hardly recognize. But I can not let my fear of sin and it's destruction control my life. I have to choose to walk in Christ's freedom every single day. This not something I can just quit cold turkey and do of my own will, but I must rely on the Lord every single second. I must die to myself every moment of every day. 2 Corinthians 12:7-10 has been such a wonderful reminder. I have had to relearn what God's grace is. A book that has been really helpful is "The Discipline of Grace" by Jerry Bridges. There's a difference between being repentant and feeling the weight of conviction versus drowning in the guilt and shame from your sin. You have to have discipline not motivation. Motivation is enough to carry you for barely a week. Disciple in the Word and in prayer daily (multiple times a day) will help make the fight easier. That is your daily bread, and you'll be better in a fight when you have good energy to go into battle. And if this battle brings me closer to God and sanctifies me, then praise be to God! Find people that you can talk to about this. If you haven't before, there is so much power in being able to confess your sins to another brother in Christ. And when these thoughts creep in, pray. I too am most vulnerable at night with these temptations and wild thoughts. The last two nights I have suffered from very graphic sexual dreams that almost pushed me to give in to other temptations. And it's really hard to say no while in such a vulnerable state. I will have to be diligent about praying before I fall asleep for the Lord to protect my mind while I sleep. Thank you for sharing your burdens with us, brother. I will be praying for you.
Older Jubilee vids had better Christians, but the last couple years I've stayed away from their "Christian" videos because it just makes me angry with how not Biblical they are. For every video where theres 4 or 5, only 1 or maybe 2 actually seem like Christians who have ever even opened their bibles. I hate to generalize, but they get most of their people from the local area and they are Cali based as far as I recall.
I don't think these people are ultimately convinced by their own arguments. They may even be capable of recognizing that God hates what they do. But what they're afraid of is the life of constant repentance, taking every thought captive, dying to self, carrying a cross, etc. It's miserable. And unless you're dying next week, becoming a Christian means decades upon decades of this daily pain. I'm not saying it's not worth it. Hell is bad enough to justify doing anything to escape it. But I do understand why people like this don't look forward to giving their life to Jesus.
If it is that painful for you, with all due respect, I think you may be missing the mark. The whole point of repentance and Christ's atonement is that He can change you. Change the way you think. Take that pain away, or at least make that day to day diffulty something that you can manage. Repent. Fully give yourself to Christ and take that weight off yourself 😊 I wish you luck!
@@cameronvantassell9483 I have repented. My life is almost unrecognizable from where I started in many ways. It's just hard to rejoice about that when I recognize that before I repented, I actually looked forward to getting out of bed each day. But I appreciate the encouragement. I'm committed to not being a danger to myself or anyone around me.
@@АлексейМомот-щ7о Most people who are legitimate Christians don't feel this way, so I wouldn't let my own story get in the way of you pursuing a relationship with Jesus. I'm probably not born again yet, so if I ever figure that out, I'm sure my tune will change. Just wanted to offer an honest perspective on the plight of the people in question. Maybe some of them do hate God. But maybe some are just discouraged by a reality where the choice is between Hell and decades of persecution, dying to self, and constant checking and re-checking one's steps.
@@nameirrelevant0here's an analogy i thought about a few months ago. It might have flaws but I think it's pretty decent. It's about being born again. I like to find the similarities between an engagement proposal and God's love. The sacrifice has been made and now Jesus asks for your hand in marriage. The moment you say yes, you are his fiance. This means that you now have a bond with him and even if you still live a life of fighting against sin and at times forsake him, to him you are still his fiance and he knows you are weak and he is forgiving. Now when you are engaged to him, you will have his ring or atleast the confidence of his promise (the holy spirit) and the holy spirit will work within you and make you want to draw closer to him. But if you reject the ring or call off the wedding(blaspheme the holy spirit) then that's it. There, you will have no forgiveness. So, as long as we live we are called to grow in his love, waiting for the marriage in heaven(as it is mentioned in revelation). Note - do not take this literally. Also, i wanna point out that although Jesus did come and say he would bring separation and that we will be persecuted in his name, he also says that his burden is light and that one should rejoice not only because we have been saved but to rejoice at the time when we recieve persecution. And I'm convinced that he must have his reasons for saying such things. I also believe faith has a big part too. I noticed how you were questioning your faith and from experience i can tell you're not in a very good position atm. I still do think to myself "why am I so weak? Why do I fall over and over? Why can't I just serve one master?" It's tough and I don't know if I have the right answer to that but RN I'm thinking about learning how to love God and how to pray. One thing I'm sure of is that if anyone comes back home to the father then he will definitely be delighted and overjoyed(reference to the prodigal son) As a student studying for a competitive exam, i understand the struggle of having to wake up everyday to deliver and be productive. Time is running and it's depressing that i am wasting it. It's difficult to keep consistency. It's exhausting. But at the end of the day, i know that I do love learning and studying and that i wanna pass the exam and learn more in the future. So i have no choice but to do it because I want to.
Issac I have a question. Whenever we give analogies to our current court system, what is the equivalent of Jesus’ sacrifice “taking on our punishment”? You have the monetary example of a “speeding fine” getting paid out by someone, but we’re not talking about that. Like let’s say your mother was murdered and you were sitting there at the trial with the murderer in the room. If you had a third party agree to take the prison sentence instead of the murderer and the killer got to go free, how would we recognize this as just? Because the sacrifice is often stated as perfect justice being executed and I don’t see how there could be a valid analogy to understand it
No analogy is perfect and I don't claim to 100% understand everything but part of the reason it works is because ultimately, all our sins are foremost against God Himself. Change the analogy to show that it's the judge's mother who was killed, and the judge himself offers to take the murderer's sentence, and to adopt that person into their family while personally helping them to be better 24/7.
I don't believe we could analogize Jesus' sacrifice. He died for our sins so that we have a chance at eternal life with God, but it is up to our free will to follow and accept him. It says in scripture the way to heaven is through me. So even though he died for our sins we can still go to hell if we don't follow Christ.
i don't think the courtroom analogy fits, because the purpose of the court and duty of the judge is to provide justice AND make sure the society is safe for everyone. One way to charge criminals for the crime they commit (depending on the severity of the atrocities committed). On Jesus’ sacrifice, we know man’s fallen nature. Man sins, and falls short of God’s grace. There are no "limits" to the extent we can go to commit these crimes, we've seen time and time be it towards others or our own selves. We know what sin did to Sodom and Gomorrah. The wrath of our just God burned them all. The question is, if man is true to his fallen nature and in that he partakes and falls short of grace. Will God just end humanity one day? Because everyone sins, and God doesn't think like we humans do. He sees all that we do, even the things done in secret. Then what happens? In the Old Testament, people sacrificed animal offerings for pardon of sins and penance (applying ash, rag clothes and fasting). This traditional exercise of suffering and sacrifice comes full circle when God himself in His perfect will gives away His only Son to sacrifice His life to save "many". By His life and death, Jesus earned our salvation so whoever believes shall be saved. When God looks at a believer, He doesn't see how many sins he’s committed but a pure soul that has been cleansed by Jesus’ blood.
@@AdianBlack I don’t think that changes it any. What is the purpose of punishment? If your answer is to have something for the prosecuting party to take their anger out on despite who’s guilty, then sure. If your answer is to foster growth and rehabilitation in the guilty party to be fit for society in the future, then punishing someone else does nothing to remedy the situation.
In the very first chapter of the very first book of the Bible, we are told that man was created in the image of God. And for countless millennia, we have tried to make Him in ours. Mean, hateful, irrational, vindictive and unfairly punitive. For me, Luke 14:15-24 & Matthew 7:21 suggests after we transcend, we will be amazed who was invited to the kingdom, and who was not.
Jon at What do you meme did a video a year or two back where he used almost one rebuttal against these critiques: can you say "and therefore God does not exist". Hell isn't fair... and therefore God does not exist? See how it doesn't follow? He did that with all these kind of critiques.
@@DiamondWorldTH-cam Factually incorrect, but also a nonsensical argument. Wearing glasses is unnatural, and so is using a smartphone, wearing shoes, and cooking food. It has nothing to do with whether something is right or wrong, dummy.
He is justice and everything that is good. It's bigger than you. We all sin everyday & also without even knowing & the wages of sin is death. So God the father sent his son to be the holy sacrifice for his creation. All you have to do is believe.
Treat video games like movies. Many are fine However you should avoid demonic games and games that depict God/ Christianity as evil. Horror games are most likely to have these issues so I'd suggest researching them before playing. I'm not saying to avoid the entire genre just that this genre specifically requires more caution.
Well why said God wants innocent and good people to go to hell just because they don’t believe in this one specific religion? But sinful people can still go to heaven just by talking to priests or donating money to the church? That’s so evil.
What is good? We are All sinful. No one is innocent or good, purely. It’s not just about works, but you need to have faith in Jesus and accept him as your Lord and saviour. And of course that’s not to say that alone is enough to go to heaven. But because you love Jesus so much, you should want to do good, and walk a a Christ like life. That’s when you truely love him, and truely accept him. People who say they love Jesus and are walking another path besides Jesus’ path, are not truely saved. It’s like this. You go to an acquaintances house, but you didn’t make an effort to build a relationship with them, and then rock up to their home and expect them to let you live with them, because you have no where to go, and you say, “well I am a good person, and I am innocent, let me live with you.” They wouldn’t want to take you in. Like who are you to them? You haven’t made an effort to build trust and a relationship. So of course you’re not welcomed. Same thing when you go to paradise. You need to make an effort to know Jesus, and have a relationship or what’s the point? Your works alone is not enough.
@@lewisballs3 The difference is, if you don’t like those specific friends, they’re not going to wish you going to hell. I don’t refrain from killing because I am afraid of going to hell, but because I have empathy.
Does anyone ever really read the word of God! Why do we broad brush the love of God and yet ignore “you must die to yourself”! The Bible is perfectly clear, we just don’t like what it says, because it tells me first to die to myself!!
I can agree that we humans are fallible. However, why can't we, instead of making relationships with magical sky daddy, make connections with the other fallible humans as a way to build each other up? We suck at judging our own character, but others can pick us up with our character flaws. Humans work better together, no God required.
The Bible actually instructs us to be in community with each other, we are one body, and to work together. And Christ is what unifies us. Some of us find a relationship with God to also be important.
@@whenyouwishuponastar6643 our communities shouldn't be formed through requirements, rules, and restrictions. Communities thrive the best when they're built from genuine connections formed through interaction, not some book telling us what to do. That's not to say that Christians can't form connections, but the Bible shouldn't be the main reason. But, as long as you're happy and don't restrict others in the process, then I don't care what you do. Just don't be a dick.
Why is a works based religion wrong? Just cause Christianity is unique that doesn’t mean it’s true. When you bring up the lying analogy you miss understand why lying is bad. Lying is bad but the consequences depend on the seriousness and the consequences that the lie brings, merely lying to a judge about some mundane thing like what you had for dinner is not going to cause problems so unless you’re under oath you won’t receive consequences. However let’s say you where being questioned police and they are asking about someone threatening to kill somebody and you lied, the consequence of the lie is someone is dead making it serious but lying is not always a punishable offence it depends on the lie.
I have genuine question. Why do you keep saying how evil and sinful people are? As someone who struggles with faith daily, do you know how much of a turn off it is to be told how I am just inherently evil? 🤷🏽♀️
Your discussion about hell misses the point. Most skeptics don't struggle with the concept of judgment or hell, they struggle with the notion of an eternally burning hell in which sinners are tormented for eternity. And yet again, Christians such as yourself fail to make a moral argument for why such a thing is just or loving.
@@kleptosepto1848I don’t get it. Let’s make an analogy, I’m 20 years old. I was done wrong by someone when I was 7. I forgave that person and moved with my life now as a 20 year old. Why can’t god do the same given that we are so insignificant to him since he is omnipotent and thus should know we mere irrational beings will make foolish mistakes here and there
I’ll give you another analogy. The world is in an apocalypse. Everyone is ridden with disease. And people constantly do things to make the disease worse. But you have this huge house that can fit everyone. Everyone in the house is free from the disease. This house is constantly advertised. There are realtors who are constantly trying to get people into this disease free house. People want to come into the house often. And you tell them “you can come into this house if you trust in me, change your habits, and wear these new clothes”. They don’t want to do it. They don’t want to change their ways. You cannot live with the disease and you gave them many chances to come into the house if they changed their ways. That’s how God feels. He is loving. He gives us his house and he constantly sends people out so we don’t have to stay in this diseased world. Our sin is a disease and he hates it. But he loved us enough to sacrifice his son. His salvation gives us our new clothes. His trust makes us safe. I hope this helps ❤️ God bless you
Good question! How are you defining "just" and "loving"? God has definitions for these words, but when we take God's definition and place it against worldly definitions, I see how it can be confusing.
@@SpiritFilledDisciple what about you though, would I guess correctly that out of 10 commandments you try to observe everything BUT the Sabbath? I hope the explanation to this is short, because the commandment is short, and is not cancelled anywhere in the Bible.
@@SpiritFilledDisciple So let's put him (and Mike Winger) aside. How do you explain modern Christianity's neglect of the 4th Commandment/7th-day Sabbath?
The criminal who invents hell will want to inflict it. The fantasist who invents heaven will want to withhold it. The ugly dichotomy of "christianity" is thus contrived. The oracles of the illiterate realized long ago that the best weapon of torment (and inducement) is the invisible one. Threat, infliction, bonus and indulgences are the natural byproducts of all superstition.
No. The unregenerate man is a sinner, who inherently has a twisted idea of good and evil. And all have sinned before God. Why would God let you live forever as you pretend youre innocent? Youve done evil in your life… or havent you? And God should take that seriously shouldnt He? Or should evil not be punished. Doesnt seem just to me. No one is good. Everyone has sinned and one day everyone will pay the price. The beauty of the Gospel is that God made a way to pay that price for you by sending Jesus to be a ransom for many. Your lofty words are mere coping mechanisms that are in truth suppressing the truth in unrighteousness. As its written
@@jakeschwartz2514 The notion of a blood sacrifice of a virgin god-child of a virgin as a scapegoat for the entirety of humanity, living and dead, is a blood cult gone mad. Stupidly, jesus did not die. You can't kill a god. A 3 day temporary death of his man bits as 'proof' of something is nonsensical. There was never any risk that jesus was going to die and stay dead. Since god is omniscient and knew all of this in advance, then the whole thing is a ridiculous charade. The brutalist "christian" religion now demands death for all sin, great and small. The "christians" invented their amoral god and gave him the power of life and death over everything. He might even keep people in a state of eternal living death. An amoral injunction. The "christians" demand belief in these ugly ideas. You want to inflict these filthy notions on defenceless children and the fearful. And then accuse me of using lofty words. Maybe you can start to understand why normal people simply don't trust you.
So we should just…….let criminals be free and get away with murder? The world, with abortion, hyper sexualization/pornography, (which by the way traffic minors, and use minor’s photos on porn sites, which is disgusting, and Christians are the ones helping the victims of trafficking) drug addiction, drunkenness, lying, stealing, etc and you wonder “why are people so depressed” BECASUE OF AN EVIL WORLD THAT WITH ONLY TEMPORARY PLEASURES. What good does only picking and choosing certain moral codes do? Instead of focusing on all morals, you only pick which ones to go by. Who are you to judge God? We’re morally flawed beings, and He perfectly holy.
@@jakeschwartz2514Please provide evidence of this deity and of eternal life, otherwise we must assume your lofty words are just about made-up nonsense.
Personally, I believe that being having emotionally intimate same sex relationships is good HOWEVER you MUST abstain from sex. I believe that sex was created for married men and women ONLY, and that this is what the Holy Scripture calls upon. I know and respect that many of you have a different view, but just know I am NOT a progressive pick-and-choose "christian" who wants to justify their behavior and sin. I believe that the call to chastity is what God is calling upon the gay and the lesbian, not necessarily emotionally deep relationships.
The so called holy scripture calls upon all sorts of things. Deuteronomy recommends stoning rebellious children to death. Psalm 137 seems to be obsessed with revenge on children. Sex evolved long before mammals arrived on Earth. The tormented attitudes of the various religions about sex is fairly typical of repression and prurience.
Can I talk about why Jesus is the only path to Heaven? Lets unpack this. First off - Jesus told us he bought our sins. No other figure has stepped forward as a buyer. Nobody has offered. Therefore, we literally have two options. Sell our sins to the only person buying, or keep them ourselves. Second- sin can't come to heaven. Sin, by nature is destructive to ourselves and others and is incompatible with both the nature and the power of heaven. We can't bring our sins. So, every living being will have to make a choice. Sell your sins to Jesus (the only buyer) or keep your sins and forfeit heaven. Until you can produce another buyer, or contrive a heaven that includes destruction, its either Jesus or nothing. Ergo, Jesus is the only path. This isn’t bigotry. Its logic.
Can I say this I'm someone that likes to be surprised by things okay I like it when certain things are surprising to me I believe God is real and that heaven and hell are real but if it's not true I would like to not be surprised by it I do believe have any color real in God and devil here's the thing I can say that God is God help me my phone give dogs cuz the thing is I couldn't have done that the thing is people say God is not real so that's the question if God is not real how are you talking are you walking are you doing anything you couldn't say that it was something
God and morality are not synonymous. Nor is the absence of a god and religion synonymous with nihilistic ideology. Do better. You can have meaning without god. If anything, it can be less harmful to a person and those around them than some religious zealot obfuscating real issues with "spiritual issues."
@JDoGP Sorry, I got busy at work and with family. I think there is a mixture of subjective and objective things about life. For meaning of life, it is subjective to me very much. For over a decade, the meaning of my life was to serve my country as I was in the military. The purpose I derived was to be the best I could at my job and keep my team alive as best I could. Complete our mission and, at the ultimate birds eye view, keep America secure. Since I got out, my purpose to different things; bring stability to my family, raise my children proper. At my new job, I still help people. Eventually, I will trybamd give more back to my community. We lost our house to a fire last year, so we are rebuilding. Once we are fully grounded, I plan to donate and aid local org's thar help the community. Give moee to my local schools. Does that make some sense? I am not some experienced philosopher. Sorry if that is what you were expecting.
@@ShiniGuraiJoker yes, that is true. We can have meaning in things/beings other than God. But sir, I would think only in this life. If it is true that there is eternal life after death then wouldn't meaning fade with time?
Jesus saved me from addiction and depression I can never imagine my life without jesus!! Praise God
Amen, all praise to God our king.
@@ApoloChanel What have been doing about it? Fasting? Praying? Reading scripture? Worshipping God? The more connected you are to God, the easier it is to resist temptation. Rebuke the demons in Jesus’s name, and draw closer to God.
”No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.“
I Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV)
Find the escape that God is providing you with. May God bless and guide and protect you with all of His means and resources. In Jesus’s name, Amen.
@@ApoloChanel When you don't know how to do, what God asks you to do *ask God for help* and be a doer of James 1:5-7
Jesus didn't do anything, your willpower did. do you have any evidence to prove that it was Jesus?
Honestly it’s great that you’re now doing good in life. But religion is a tool, that helped you. This is my issue with this religion. It’s not encouraging or recognizing individual strength but rather rely on some superficial image. Do you want to be a good human being because you are just so strong yourself, or because you are afraid of going to hell? I think the next step now is to believe in yourself and exit a cult.
Thank you so much for reacting to our Jubilee Middle Ground. I think you gave some really great insight regarding the questions and concerns that the Ex-Christians had. We brought up some of those same things during the conversation.
I appreciate how you break things down, especially talking about God’s justice. 🙏🏽
The only thing I dislike about this video is that it’s only 15 minutes long. I would love to watch more of this.
The real video is way longer
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I want to see productions like these bring on REAL/MATURE men and woman of God filled with the Holy Spirit. There are so many people who think that they are saved but aren’t because they don’t have a relationship with Jesus and their lifestyles show it.
you can be a christian that struggles with same sex attraction and recognizes that it's sin, but you cannot be a homosexual and a christian. the "homosexual christian" is someone that thinks it's just how they are and not a sin. Making it their identity. Telling God so much that "you can't enter this part of my life" and thinking it's ok with God. You're not saved if this is how you feel
I agree, so many people are confused on this subject, they think that if they struggle they are gay, when that is not the case.
Nah you bugging. Like most things in the Bible, gay acts are cherry picked. Just look at 1 Samuel 18:1-4 all the way to 20:41-42. King David & Prince Johnathan were hellllla gay.
@@misteriknow2069 Both you and the original commenter are incorrect. We are saved by Grace through Faith and not of works. The bible makes it very clear that Homosexuality IS sin, and just because people in the bible do wrong, that does not make it right. There are murderers, adulterers etc. in the bible, but that does not make these actions right.
@@turcman8684 the Bible was also OK with Slavery. Thankfully we live in a society not governed by outdated religious texts, but in a society that tries to implement “wrong from right” laws.
@@misteriknow2069 Slavery in a biblical context is no different from working a job by contract.
Read the Bible
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Lol. No sarcasm. This made me laugh cuz it’s really that simple. Read the Bible!!!
Amen 🙏
Amen
I did and left wanting. The bible is a terrible bar for morality.
They are always hurt and blame God, or Other Christians
But we should realize, it is us who fail
No… people already hate God. They need to be better
You are an absolute inspiration, so many questions were answered, many more I didn't know I had. Also some believes I subconsciously had were changed here. Thank you so much
Yes thank you for reacting to this video! It really was a thought provoking one
Thanks for your content bro! Good bless!
God is using you! Love this message. The videos keep getting better and better. Stay close to the Lord, my friend. The enemy will continue to attack, but he’s a loser!
You can talk with Jesus. Seek Jesus. Seek Jesus. Seek Jesus - then you know Him.
there is only one way to GOD and that way is through JESUS CHRIST spiritually and your spiritual eyes are opened to the truth . some christians are awake and some christians are asleep.
Amen
Ex-Christian = never was a true Christian
They went out from us because they were never of us,
*1 John 2:19* Amplified Bible
_They went out from us [seeming at first to be Christians], but they were not really of us [because they were not truly born again and spiritually transformed]; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out [teaching false doctrine], so that it would be clearly shown that none of them are of us._
It's so sad.
@Quint-ib4nf me too, it just very disrespectful of them to assume that we never were, we just got convinced that we were wrong about christianity.
@@kleptosepto18481st John 2:19 is just an attempt at poisoning the well.
That woman said, she did research. THAT right there will cause many people to be lost. Enough said.
Keep searching for answers even if you think you already know them. Thanks for making this.
Thank you for this
When it comes to understanding Hell, I would highly recommend the book "The skeletons in God's closet". It really opened my eyes, and as crazy as it sounds, it makes me able to realize that hell is truly a measure of God's grace (it's crazy, I know, but read the book.)
THANK YOU for reacting to this Jubilee video.
There were some AMAZING responses and exchanges from the christian’s on this panel. It would be great if you show some of their responses too.
Especially Kytia (yellow sweater girl) and Johnny (red track suit). They had amazing exchanges and responses to the ex-christians.
#TeamYellowSweaterGirl
Kytia was bat shit crazy 😂. Like she told innocent loving Jake he was going to hell strictly because he was gay and insulted him by saying it was a choice. Folks like Kytia is why Christianity & religion overall is a turn off for a lot of people. Like Hitler can say I believe in God and go to heaven but Jake who’s Catholic and a devout believer is going to hell because his lover is a he? Sounds like a cult to me.
2:21 "The Gospel is beautiful, I've fallen so hard, I'm guilty before God, and yet Jesus has come to forgive me"...that's a lot of mental gymnastics and emotional rollercoastering you put yourself through. I've been getting into Norse paganism and could say similar things about the Poetic and Prose Eddas, the Sagas, the Havamal (similar to book of Proverbs). They're beautiful, I've fallen hard, but 1) no dogma, and 2) I accept that the Sagas are pseudo-fictional accounts with some history mixed in written centuries after the actual events--something Christianity seems to struggle with, that acceptance--and yet these stories were what was important to the people who lived during that time. These stories hold the power to connect us still. If people could realize it is the story which creates the feeling, which creates in us a spark toward divine ACTION in our lives, and in service of others--rather than thinking these stories are what "save" us, or that we should beat up or proselytize to people who don't believe them--I think we'd all be able to respect each other's religious journeys a little better. And if I were a Christian living today, just a little tip here...I would seek the forgiveness of those I wronged before I felt right in seeking forgiveness from my God.
Wow! What a great video!! Great job!!
3:47 PA does not have a Route 101....
Man you are so wise. But I would’ve liked for you to react to the full video. There were things in there what I would’ve loved to see your take on. I know they were controversial and complex topic to deal with, but it would’ve been nice to see your reaction in the full context of the video and what each participant said in full context without cutting so much. Blessings brother
I have a question have any of you struggled with lust or perverted thoughts or adult content I struggle with controlling those thoughts it's even harder because I'm autistic which has a connection to hypersexuality or perverted thoughts that they can't control there's been many studies proving this
I mainly get tempted at night time when I go to sleep. And when I wake up I have an urge to look it up for some reason but my brain is still not awake but I don't have a reason and I'm not thinking clearly on why I'm doing it it's just pure impulse
Getting those thoughts in temptations in my head it's something I struggled with for a long time especially last night
( this hasn't been going on for really really long time for me and is just a hindrance in my walk with God and maybe the reason he doesn't talk to me or answer my prayers)
It's something I've been struggling with recently the past couple months but lust in private thoughts I've been dealing with for years I don't want it in my life I don't to be away from God because of that sin and I don't want it to stop God from working in my life blessing me and stopping me from living a holy life
And being a good husband because I want a good Godly wife( I'm still a virgin and I've never been in a relationship, and I do get frustrated about that)
this has been going on for such a long time sometimes you feel like God doesn't want to help you because of your failures or that I know there's a way I can be free but I don't know how to get it cuz people say abiding in Christ or walking in the spirit I know that Christ died for everyone meaning meaning everyone can go to heaven that means everyone has the opportunity to overcome those sins they struggle with and get the victory they want
A good idea when you are going through this is to occupy your mind with something else. Often times when we are bored our thoughts drift and we have time to sit and think about them. I have found that when my own thoughts drift into lust, I can distract myself by doing something I'm interested in. Whether that's a hobby or watching a video on an interesting topic or creating something, just doing something that's fun. It's hard to initially do something else when those thoughts come up, but once you do it really, really helps because those thoughts do go away when you are focused on something else. The Bible says if we resist the devil, then He will flee from us. That's just one practical tip. Fill up your time with things that are meaningful. There's also videos from Christian TH-camrs adressing this topic that can give more practical tips. It's important to find practical steps you can actually take in every day life.
Those thoughts and temptations aren't something that goes away through yourself. You have to give yourself wholly over to Christ. If you feel tempted, pray, or reach out to a friend or family member to help ease your mind. Being responsible for keeping up with prayer or fighting the temptations by reaching out is all on you, but if you give yourself to Christ you can overcome. He will help you. God Bless brother.
I completely understand your frustration at this. What you have said so far is completely normal. You are brave to seek out help on this with others! Keep on doing this!
To preface, you are not obligated to live by your flesh (sinful nature) and your selfish desires regardless of your autism. The Lord surpasses all of our conditions. Do not make an excuse for the your sin to overtake you.
Expect that the Lord will help you with this lust. However, you must be willing to accept Christ in your life. Be eager to be honest with the Lord and do not be ashamed to cry out to Him. Confess your sins to the Lord!
The Bible says to take each thought captive, to not let the enemy have a foothold in your life. To combat lust is to control your thoughts. The Holy Spirit allows us to practice self control. James in the Bible says consider the trials of your battle with lust to be joy, as an opportunity to combat sin! Be eager to stand against evil! This is building your character so that you can stand against your flesh and the enemy every day. Get some people around you that you can also share these thoughts with. Preferably other men to hold you accountable and that they themselves are believers as well.
Don’t discredit your singleness. The Lord is your God regardless of your marital status. In fact, it is exceptionally better to be sanctified as you’re single before you marry so that you are coming into a relationship where you have grown spiritually mature.
I urge you to keep a time dedicated to the Lord every day in prayer and in reading scripture! Get a Bible, a journal, and a quiet place where you can be alone with God. Remove as many distractions as possible from your environment so that your focus is on Jesus alone in the moment.
Seek and you will find. The Lord will never leave you nor forsake you! Jesus loves you. He will not let you stay as you are, He will transform your life from the inside out.
Then as you have the Holy Spirit within you, your actions will show the change that has occurred within you. You must keep pursuing the Lord. He will not give up on you!
To get stronger you must train with weight and to endure the hardships that your perseverance will produce character in your life so that you can stand your ground!
Get in relationship with the Lord and with other believers and trust in God’s will for your life! He will bless you immensely as you trust in Him. He will give you a peace that is hard to understand. He will give you wisdom!
Start today to draw nearer to the Lord. He will strengthen you!
I may not exactly relate to you, but boy do I know a thing or two about lust and lustful thoughts. At a young age I was addicted to porn I eventually stopped watching it years later. I thought I was good but sometime after I allowed that sin to enter my life once again. I stopped myself from watching the content however the visuals stayed with me so heavily that I started imagining my own porn scenarios day and night. I also started doing things to myself!! Years later, I am now in college. I prayed to God for Him to replenish my mind and heal what is so corrupted. Temptation still tries to get me, but it's weak to my spirit. I can avoid sexual thoughts and actions more easily than before. I give God all the glory for helping me through this. He will do the same for you, you just have to do your part and keep fighting! (spiritually of course lol)
I'm glad God pushed me to scroll through the comments so that I could read this. It's crazy how similar your struggle is to mine. I will start by saying, I am woman, but that doesn't mean my struggle is much different. For the last 3 years, I have struggled with reading/viewing porn, masturbation, and intensified lustful thoughts because of this addiction.
Living with this habitual sin has felt like my faith has been crippled. I have fallen into a deep depression, and I hardly have any care for myself. A coworker of mine has been trying to set me up on a blind date with a friend from his church, and as someone who has the desire for marriage, I have felt so unworthy and unclean to even consider the idea of dating. And if this is a sin that I will struggle with for more years to come, then I can't help but worry about if I will ever get to be in a relationship. The mere thought that I may not be able to give my parents grandchildren because I'm too messed up in the head sickens me.
I've heard stories from other sisters in Christ that have prayed for God to strip them of these wicked desires, and He instantly redeemes them from it. And then there are stories more similar to mine where I pray for these desires to flee, and the Lord's answer is "No, not yet." Instead of walking in Christ's victory, I have let the wait of my sins absolutely demolish me into a person I hardly recognize.
But I can not let my fear of sin and it's destruction control my life. I have to choose to walk in Christ's freedom every single day. This not something I can just quit cold turkey and do of my own will, but I must rely on the Lord every single second. I must die to myself every moment of every day. 2 Corinthians 12:7-10 has been such a wonderful reminder. I have had to relearn what God's grace is. A book that has been really helpful is "The Discipline of Grace" by Jerry Bridges. There's a difference between being repentant and feeling the weight of conviction versus drowning in the guilt and shame from your sin. You have to have discipline not motivation. Motivation is enough to carry you for barely a week. Disciple in the Word and in prayer daily (multiple times a day) will help make the fight easier. That is your daily bread, and you'll be better in a fight when you have good energy to go into battle. And if this battle brings me closer to God and sanctifies me, then praise be to God! Find people that you can talk to about this. If you haven't before, there is so much power in being able to confess your sins to another brother in Christ. And when these thoughts creep in, pray. I too am most vulnerable at night with these temptations and wild thoughts. The last two nights I have suffered from very graphic sexual dreams that almost pushed me to give in to other temptations. And it's really hard to say no while in such a vulnerable state. I will have to be diligent about praying before I fall asleep for the Lord to protect my mind while I sleep.
Thank you for sharing your burdens with us, brother. I will be praying for you.
Where in the world did they vet these "Christians"?? Great job with the commentary!
Older Jubilee vids had better Christians, but the last couple years I've stayed away from their "Christian" videos because it just makes me angry with how not Biblical they are. For every video where theres 4 or 5, only 1 or maybe 2 actually seem like Christians who have ever even opened their bibles. I hate to generalize, but they get most of their people from the local area and they are Cali based as far as I recall.
@@EDCaub guess the enemy infiltrates everything....not surprised! Thanks and God bless
Gods ways are not our ways . If gods ways are our ways then he cannot be god. His ways are higher and it’s for your own good , it benefits us.
Know people who grew up Buddhist but then became Christian (Catholic) the Vietnamese
I don't think these people are ultimately convinced by their own arguments. They may even be capable of recognizing that God hates what they do. But what they're afraid of is the life of constant repentance, taking every thought captive, dying to self, carrying a cross, etc. It's miserable. And unless you're dying next week, becoming a Christian means decades upon decades of this daily pain. I'm not saying it's not worth it. Hell is bad enough to justify doing anything to escape it. But I do understand why people like this don't look forward to giving their life to Jesus.
If it is that painful for you, with all due respect, I think you may be missing the mark. The whole point of repentance and Christ's atonement is that He can change you. Change the way you think. Take that pain away, or at least make that day to day diffulty something that you can manage. Repent. Fully give yourself to Christ and take that weight off yourself 😊
I wish you luck!
@@cameronvantassell9483 I have repented. My life is almost unrecognizable from where I started in many ways. It's just hard to rejoice about that when I recognize that before I repented, I actually looked forward to getting out of bed each day. But I appreciate the encouragement. I'm committed to not being a danger to myself or anyone around me.
@@nameirrelevant0 this sounds miserable, I hope it's not as terrible as you describe it
@@АлексейМомот-щ7о Most people who are legitimate Christians don't feel this way, so I wouldn't let my own story get in the way of you pursuing a relationship with Jesus. I'm probably not born again yet, so if I ever figure that out, I'm sure my tune will change. Just wanted to offer an honest perspective on the plight of the people in question. Maybe some of them do hate God. But maybe some are just discouraged by a reality where the choice is between Hell and decades of persecution, dying to self, and constant checking and re-checking one's steps.
@@nameirrelevant0here's an analogy i thought about a few months ago. It might have flaws but I think it's pretty decent. It's about being born again.
I like to find the similarities between an engagement proposal and God's love. The sacrifice has been made and now Jesus asks for your hand in marriage. The moment you say yes, you are his fiance. This means that you now have a bond with him and even if you still live a life of fighting against sin and at times forsake him, to him you are still his fiance and he knows you are weak and he is forgiving. Now when you are engaged to him, you will have his ring or atleast the confidence of his promise (the holy spirit) and the holy spirit will work within you and make you want to draw closer to him. But if you reject the ring or call off the wedding(blaspheme the holy spirit) then that's it. There, you will have no forgiveness. So, as long as we live we are called to grow in his love, waiting for the marriage in heaven(as it is mentioned in revelation). Note - do not take this literally.
Also, i wanna point out that although Jesus did come and say he would bring separation and that we will be persecuted in his name, he also says that his burden is light and that one should rejoice not only because we have been saved but to rejoice at the time when we recieve persecution. And I'm convinced that he must have his reasons for saying such things. I also believe faith has a big part too.
I noticed how you were questioning your faith and from experience i can tell you're not in a very good position atm. I still do think to myself "why am I so weak? Why do I fall over and over? Why can't I just serve one master?" It's tough and I don't know if I have the right answer to that but RN I'm thinking about learning how to love God and how to pray. One thing I'm sure of is that if anyone comes back home to the father then he will definitely be delighted and overjoyed(reference to the prodigal son)
As a student studying for a competitive exam, i understand the struggle of having to wake up everyday to deliver and be productive. Time is running and it's depressing that i am wasting it. It's difficult to keep consistency. It's exhausting. But at the end of the day, i know that I do love learning and studying and that i wanna pass the exam and learn more in the future. So i have no choice but to do it because I want to.
If someone asks me what id do if what i believe turns out to be wrong, ill just say "wont matter if its wrong, ill be dead, cant change it then!"
Is that your excuse for promoting 2000 years of ugly nonsense and its vast catalogue of lies?
@@rf7477 What's your excuse for atheism?
Issac I have a question. Whenever we give analogies to our current court system, what is the equivalent of Jesus’ sacrifice “taking on our punishment”? You have the monetary example of a “speeding fine” getting paid out by someone, but we’re not talking about that. Like let’s say your mother was murdered and you were sitting there at the trial with the murderer in the room. If you had a third party agree to take the prison sentence instead of the murderer and the killer got to go free, how would we recognize this as just? Because the sacrifice is often stated as perfect justice being executed and I don’t see how there could be a valid analogy to understand it
No analogy is perfect and I don't claim to 100% understand everything but part of the reason it works is because ultimately, all our sins are foremost against God Himself. Change the analogy to show that it's the judge's mother who was killed, and the judge himself offers to take the murderer's sentence, and to adopt that person into their family while personally helping them to be better 24/7.
I don't believe we could analogize Jesus' sacrifice. He died for our sins so that we have a chance at eternal life with God, but it is up to our free will to follow and accept him. It says in scripture the way to heaven is through me. So even though he died for our sins we can still go to hell if we don't follow Christ.
i don't think the courtroom analogy fits, because the purpose of the court and duty of the judge is to provide justice AND make sure the society is safe for everyone. One way to charge criminals for the crime they commit (depending on the severity of the atrocities committed).
On Jesus’ sacrifice, we know man’s fallen nature. Man sins, and falls short of God’s grace. There are no "limits" to the extent we can go to commit these crimes, we've seen time and time be it towards others or our own selves. We know what sin did to Sodom and Gomorrah. The wrath of our just God burned them all. The question is, if man is true to his fallen nature and in that he partakes and falls short of grace. Will God just end humanity one day? Because everyone sins, and God doesn't think like we humans do. He sees all that we do, even the things done in secret. Then what happens?
In the Old Testament, people sacrificed animal offerings for pardon of sins and penance (applying ash, rag clothes and fasting). This traditional exercise of suffering and sacrifice comes full circle when God himself in His perfect will gives away His only Son to sacrifice His life to save "many". By His life and death, Jesus earned our salvation so whoever believes shall be saved. When God looks at a believer, He doesn't see how many sins he’s committed but a pure soul that has been cleansed by Jesus’ blood.
@@AdianBlack I don’t think that changes it any. What is the purpose of punishment? If your answer is to have something for the prosecuting party to take their anger out on despite who’s guilty, then sure. If your answer is to foster growth and rehabilitation in the guilty party to be fit for society in the future, then punishing someone else does nothing to remedy the situation.
@@JayDubs_117 well then why do so many apologists try to analogize everything if the differences can be picked apart so easily?
In the very first chapter of the very first book of the Bible, we are told that man was created in the image of God. And for countless millennia, we have tried to make Him in ours. Mean, hateful, irrational, vindictive and unfairly punitive. For me, Luke 14:15-24 & Matthew 7:21 suggests after we transcend, we will be amazed who was invited to the kingdom, and who was not.
Jesus said unless we are born again, we shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. We need to trust in Jesus and repent of our sins.
Amen
I know you
Jon at What do you meme did a video a year or two back where he used almost one rebuttal against these critiques: can you say "and therefore God does not exist".
Hell isn't fair... and therefore God does not exist? See how it doesn't follow? He did that with all these kind of critiques.
Once again, since apparently it needs to keep being said, there's nothing wrong with being gay whatsoever.
Yes there is. It isn't natural
@@DiamondWorldTH-cam Factually incorrect, but also a nonsensical argument. Wearing glasses is unnatural, and so is using a smartphone, wearing shoes, and cooking food. It has nothing to do with whether something is right or wrong, dummy.
@@DiamondWorldTH-camjust bc it isn’t natural doesn’t mean it bad and it’s natural
I refuse to believe that god believes that "justice" means eternal torture.
He is justice and everything that is good. It's bigger than you. We all sin everyday & also without even knowing & the wages of sin is death. So God the father sent his son to be the holy sacrifice for his creation. All you have to do is believe.
@@ACEOFTHEBLITZ read it again, slowly if necessary
Johnnyyy, my boy on TV. 😁💪🏼
Should Christian’s play video games ? And does it matter what games we play ?
Treat video games like movies. Many are fine However you should avoid demonic games and games that depict God/ Christianity as evil. Horror games are most likely to have these issues so I'd suggest researching them before playing. I'm not saying to avoid the entire genre just that this genre specifically requires more caution.
@@TheAlpacalypseIsUponUs Okay , thank you for the response. God bless you ❤️
@@TheAlpacalypseIsUponUs This is a cult mindset, where you have to avoid anything where you might think critically about your religious beliefs.
Well why said God wants innocent and good people to go to hell just because they don’t believe in this one specific religion? But sinful people can still go to heaven just by talking to priests or donating money to the church? That’s so evil.
What is good? We are All sinful. No one is innocent or good, purely. It’s not just about works, but you need to have faith in Jesus and accept him as your Lord and saviour. And of course that’s not to say that alone is enough to go to heaven. But because you love Jesus so much, you should want to do good, and walk a a Christ like life. That’s when you truely love him, and truely accept him. People who say they love Jesus and are walking another path besides Jesus’ path, are not truely saved.
It’s like this. You go to an acquaintances house, but you didn’t make an effort to build a relationship with them, and then rock up to their home and expect them to let you live with them, because you have no where to go, and you say, “well I am a good person, and I am innocent, let me live with you.” They wouldn’t want to take you in. Like who are you to them? You haven’t made an effort to build trust and a relationship. So of course you’re not welcomed.
Same thing when you go to paradise. You need to make an effort to know Jesus, and have a relationship or what’s the point? Your works alone is not enough.
@@lewisballs3 The difference is, if you don’t like those specific friends, they’re not going to wish you going to hell. I don’t refrain from killing because I am afraid of going to hell, but because I have empathy.
Does anyone ever really read the word of God! Why do we broad brush the love of God and yet ignore “you must die to yourself”!
The Bible is perfectly clear, we just don’t like what it says, because it tells me first to die to myself!!
I can agree that we humans are fallible. However, why can't we, instead of making relationships with magical sky daddy, make connections with the other fallible humans as a way to build each other up? We suck at judging our own character, but others can pick us up with our character flaws. Humans work better together, no God required.
The Bible actually instructs us to be in community with each other, we are one body, and to work together. And Christ is what unifies us. Some of us find a relationship with God to also be important.
@@whenyouwishuponastar6643 our communities shouldn't be formed through requirements, rules, and restrictions. Communities thrive the best when they're built from genuine connections formed through interaction, not some book telling us what to do. That's not to say that Christians can't form connections, but the Bible shouldn't be the main reason. But, as long as you're happy and don't restrict others in the process, then I don't care what you do. Just don't be a dick.
Why is a works based religion wrong? Just cause Christianity is unique that doesn’t mean it’s true. When you bring up the lying analogy you miss understand why lying is bad. Lying is bad but the consequences depend on the seriousness and the consequences that the lie brings, merely lying to a judge about some mundane thing like what you had for dinner is not going to cause problems so unless you’re under oath you won’t receive consequences. However let’s say you where being questioned police and they are asking about someone threatening to kill somebody and you lied, the consequence of the lie is someone is dead making it serious but lying is not always a punishable offence it depends on the lie.
I love Jubilee! Enough said.
I have genuine question. Why do you keep saying how evil and sinful people are? As someone who struggles with faith daily, do you know how much of a turn off it is to be told how I am just inherently evil? 🤷🏽♀️
wait you’re married
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These are all subjective truths that you believe in
Your discussion about hell misses the point. Most skeptics don't struggle with the concept of judgment or hell, they struggle with the notion of an eternally burning hell in which sinners are tormented for eternity. And yet again, Christians such as yourself fail to make a moral argument for why such a thing is just or loving.
God is eternal, therefor our transgression against Him is eternal. Our punishment is eternal. God must punish sin. Period.
@@kleptosepto1848I don’t get it. Let’s make an analogy, I’m 20 years old. I was done wrong by someone when I was 7. I forgave that person and moved with my life now as a 20 year old. Why can’t god do the same given that we are so insignificant to him since he is omnipotent and thus should know we mere irrational beings will make foolish mistakes here and there
I’ll give you another analogy. The world is in an apocalypse. Everyone is ridden with disease. And people constantly do things to make the disease worse. But you have this huge house that can fit everyone. Everyone in the house is free from the disease. This house is constantly advertised. There are realtors who are constantly trying to get people into this disease free house. People want to come into the house often. And you tell them “you can come into this house if you trust in me, change your habits, and wear these new clothes”. They don’t want to do it. They don’t want to change their ways. You cannot live with the disease and you gave them many chances to come into the house if they changed their ways.
That’s how God feels. He is loving. He gives us his house and he constantly sends people out so we don’t have to stay in this diseased world. Our sin is a disease and he hates it. But he loved us enough to sacrifice his son. His salvation gives us our new clothes. His trust makes us safe.
I hope this helps ❤️ God bless you
Good question! How are you defining "just" and "loving"? God has definitions for these words, but when we take God's definition and place it against worldly definitions, I see how it can be confusing.
@@iironhide6209 Look at my reply for a different perspective ❤️
Do a video where you explain why modern Christians don't observe Sabbath, although Jesus did and all the first apostles and all the first Christians
@@SpiritFilledDisciple what about you though, would I guess correctly that out of 10 commandments you try to observe everything BUT the Sabbath? I hope the explanation to this is short, because the commandment is short, and is not cancelled anywhere in the Bible.
@@SpiritFilledDisciple Why don't you explain your understanding of it to him?
@@SpiritFilledDisciple So let's put him (and Mike Winger) aside.
How do you explain modern Christianity's neglect of the 4th Commandment/7th-day Sabbath?
@@Quintori his lack of answer is the best asnwer
Because Jesus is our sabbath rest. Christians have never kept the sabbath by observing any particular day. That's cultish nonsense
The criminal who invents hell will want to inflict it. The fantasist who invents heaven will want to withhold it. The ugly dichotomy of "christianity" is thus contrived. The oracles of the illiterate realized long ago that the best weapon of torment (and inducement) is the invisible one. Threat, infliction, bonus and indulgences are the natural byproducts of all superstition.
No. The unregenerate man is a sinner, who inherently has a twisted idea of good and evil. And all have sinned before God.
Why would God let you live forever as you pretend youre innocent? Youve done evil in your life… or havent you? And God should take that seriously shouldnt He?
Or should evil not be punished. Doesnt seem just to me. No one is good. Everyone has sinned and one day everyone will pay the price. The beauty of the Gospel is that God made a way to pay that price for you by sending Jesus to be a ransom for many.
Your lofty words are mere coping mechanisms that are in truth suppressing the truth in unrighteousness. As its written
@@jakeschwartz2514 The notion of a blood sacrifice of a virgin god-child of a virgin as a scapegoat for the entirety of humanity, living and dead, is a blood cult gone mad. Stupidly, jesus did not die. You can't kill a god. A 3 day temporary death of his man bits as 'proof' of something is nonsensical. There was never any risk that jesus was going to die and stay dead. Since god is omniscient and knew all of this in advance, then the whole thing is a ridiculous charade.
The brutalist "christian" religion now demands death for all sin, great and small. The "christians" invented their amoral god and gave him the power of life and death over everything. He might even keep people in a state of eternal living death. An amoral injunction. The "christians" demand belief in these ugly ideas. You want to inflict these filthy notions on defenceless children and the fearful. And then accuse me of using lofty words. Maybe you can start to understand why normal people simply don't trust you.
So we should just…….let criminals be free and get away with murder? The world, with abortion, hyper sexualization/pornography, (which by the way traffic minors, and use minor’s photos on porn sites, which is disgusting, and Christians are the ones helping the victims of trafficking) drug addiction, drunkenness, lying, stealing, etc and you wonder “why are people so depressed” BECASUE OF AN EVIL WORLD THAT WITH ONLY TEMPORARY PLEASURES. What good does only picking and choosing certain moral codes do? Instead of focusing on all morals, you only pick which ones to go by. Who are you to judge God? We’re morally flawed beings, and He perfectly holy.
@@jakeschwartz2514Please provide evidence of this deity and of eternal life, otherwise we must assume your lofty words are just about made-up nonsense.
Bible saved me from its own bullshit. Atheist now.
My epiphany:you are assuming all human beings are crimminals and god as a fair judge which again read your bible that not the case
Personally, I believe that being having emotionally intimate same sex relationships is good HOWEVER you MUST abstain from sex. I believe that sex was created for married men and women ONLY, and that this is what the Holy Scripture calls upon. I know and respect that many of you have a different view, but just know I am NOT a progressive pick-and-choose "christian" who wants to justify their behavior and sin. I believe that the call to chastity is what God is calling upon the gay and the lesbian, not necessarily emotionally deep relationships.
The so called holy scripture calls upon all sorts of things. Deuteronomy recommends stoning rebellious children to death. Psalm 137 seems to be obsessed with revenge on children. Sex evolved long before mammals arrived on Earth. The tormented attitudes of the various religions about sex is fairly typical of repression and prurience.
Can I talk about why Jesus is the only path to Heaven? Lets unpack this.
First off - Jesus told us he bought our sins. No other figure has stepped forward as a buyer. Nobody has offered. Therefore, we literally have two options. Sell our sins to the only person buying, or keep them ourselves.
Second- sin can't come to heaven. Sin, by nature is destructive to ourselves and others and is incompatible with both the nature and the power of heaven. We can't bring our sins.
So, every living being will have to make a choice. Sell your sins to Jesus (the only buyer) or keep your sins and forfeit heaven.
Until you can produce another buyer, or contrive a heaven that includes destruction, its either Jesus or nothing. Ergo, Jesus is the only path. This isn’t bigotry. Its logic.
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Can I say this I'm someone that likes to be surprised by things okay I like it when certain things are surprising to me I believe God is real and that heaven and hell are real but if it's not true I would like to not be surprised by it I do believe have any color real in God and devil here's the thing I can say that God is God help me my phone give dogs cuz the thing is I couldn't have done that the thing is people say God is not real so that's the question if God is not real how are you talking are you walking are you doing anything you couldn't say that it was something
God and morality are not synonymous. Nor is the absence of a god and religion synonymous with nihilistic ideology. Do better.
You can have meaning without god. If anything, it can be less harmful to a person and those around them than some religious zealot obfuscating real issues with "spiritual issues."
What do you mean when you say you can have meaning without God? What determines meaning?
@@JDoGP We each determine our own meaning in my perspective. Could you ask some more questions?
@@ShiniGuraiJoker Yeah absolutely, I guess what I'm asking for is an example? And you're suggesting that purpose is subjective?
@JDoGP Sorry, I got busy at work and with family. I think there is a mixture of subjective and objective things about life.
For meaning of life, it is subjective to me very much. For over a decade, the meaning of my life was to serve my country as I was in the military. The purpose I derived was to be the best I could at my job and keep my team alive as best I could. Complete our mission and, at the ultimate birds eye view, keep America secure.
Since I got out, my purpose to different things; bring stability to my family, raise my children proper. At my new job, I still help people. Eventually, I will trybamd give more back to my community. We lost our house to a fire last year, so we are rebuilding. Once we are fully grounded, I plan to donate and aid local org's thar help the community. Give moee to my local schools.
Does that make some sense? I am not some experienced philosopher. Sorry if that is what you were expecting.
@@ShiniGuraiJoker yes, that is true. We can have meaning in things/beings other than God. But sir, I would think only in this life. If it is true that there is eternal life after death then wouldn't meaning fade with time?
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Yep, religion is ugly beyond belief.