You forgot the Fashion Wars, where you spend gold/money to buy insanely expensive infusions to make your character look like a christmas tree on crack so you can participate in competitions, get rewards or just stand still in low-level zones to blind new players.
This is so useful! I just hit level 80 and finished my story yesterday (first time for me and yes I got teary-eyed when that song started to play haha) and was wondering what to do next. Thanks Muk!
And if you're done with all of those there's still fashion wars, minigames like Keg Brawl, miniatures to collect and of course you can learn to play Dragonforce on your harp.
One thing I see missing is mention of Mastery Points. Getting Auto-loot is very important QOL. Getting MP can be combined with many of the other things (bosses, world exploration, etc.), but should cover how to look at what provides MP and how to go after it.
Very helpful. Thank you. I feel like I'm the eternal nub in GW2, despite playing it for ages!!! Plenty of guides to choose from to help me out having new objectives!!
Mukluk, thank you for your page and passing on knowledge. I have recently returned to GW2 and your explanations have been quite informative and entertaining to get caught up. Thanks a bunch
OTOH you could argue that it makes Tyria maps too easy and fast. Some people might enjoy doing it the way it was originally intended. The difference esp. with mounts like Griffon or Skycale and on some maps Beetle can be night and day.
@@kaltaron1284 They simply gives you an option since some parts of the map are frustrating without a mount or glider. You don't have to use them if you don't want to but it's there if your need them.
@@kaltaron1284 Saying you don't want a mount is akin to saying you don't want a car in real life. You'd have to be a rare breed to turn down something that makes life easier.
@@kaltaron1284 I'll be enjoying my ferrari, don't mind me. Ahaha jokes aside, good on you, i'm glad people are still able to tap into that gaming side of them. There's nothing wrong with going with no mount, it's respectable if anything, just not always practicable.
Already done: th-cam.com/video/PswfSKO7qTE/w-d-xo.html The only thing missing from that one is reinforced boreal trunk which is the 32 slot bag from bjora added since I made that video. I'll add that to the ideas sheet.
I'm a returning player that hasn't played since I bought Heart of Thorns and quit shortly after because of real world circumstances, and this guide helped me tremendously. Thanks so much.
Just got back into guild wars 2 and got got all the xpacs. My god you’re video a god send. Started my OG launch account with a fresh character and just completed the base game story. Really enjoyed it (tho buggy at time) living stories are wonderful. Sadly season one can’t happen (did it YEARS ago) but lovely they add a recap to it (needed to jog my memory for it). Thanks for the video. Makes it so easy to have these as bullet points (haven’t played mmo in YEARS.)
Thanks Muk x) although I'm curious u didn't mention WvW specifically, but I'm not touching that mode unless I have full ascdd anyway, and still have s3 up to IBS to finish, I am overwhelmed with the amount of things I have to do honestly, ur content is amazing, one of my favorite people in general, thanks again
Did not know about the wiki et command thing. That along will make me curious to come back. You earned my sub lol I'll definitely check out your other videos.
I’ve been spending my post level80 time getting all my mastery tracks leveled (for the expansions too) through metas and bounties and getting all my hero points for both elite specs and enough stored for the EoD elite spec once it drops. Joining hp/wp trains makes this soooooo easy. Oh and of course getting all mounts. I know this is mostly PoF and HoT but I’m sure many people who get to 80 are interested in those too.
Once you have done all of this there is achievement hunting. I actually found that hidden in the achievement panel there is quite a bit of story and lore things sprinkled in there in some collections and events. Its really cool. Its also satisfying to see pages of completed content. I think achievement hunting and Fashion Wars 2 are post end game though here for the super hardcore no life nerds
I would add to add some special mention to that: -dragon responses missions allows you to buy ressources crates, which are RNG but some crates (usually the most expensive one) gives a lot of pretty nice stuff. Of course you pick the crate that gives you whatever you need (right click on the box-->preview) but as far as crafting ascended stuff goes, it helps a lot. -dungeon, while fun grants less reward and are less populated these days so yeah you may struggle a bit to find a group -new player who have access to Path of Fire should work their way to unlock mounts. I wouldnt be exagerating by saying mounts drastically changes your life in GW2. On top of making exploration easier, it makes farming much faster thanks to the mobility and it will greatly helps you in making money/ascended stuff. -yeah get an ascended stuff for fractal. You wont regret the reward when you'll do your high level fractals
@@TH-camChillZone these missions aren't hard or anything and I would just treat them as free daily ressources crate. This is something new player can do just fine and it will help them on the long run when making leg/ascended stuff
I feel overwhelmed in gw2 everytime i log on. Bought and played it at release, came back at PoF and recently started again. It's just soooo much to complete mounts, gear etc. I feel like many players leave the game again because of that.. Hopefully Arenanet can make it more clear to new or returning players.
Yeah, thats totally true. And the lb 80 booster pack that you receive when you purchase the expansion doesn't help at all.... my first time playing gw2 was last year, and I loved the game. As soon as i started, i bought the expansion and... used the pack. Mannn..... the first week i got fixed on doing my core history, and when i finished it.... WHAT SHOULD I DO? ITSA FUCKING BIG MAP, AND A FUCKING A LOT OF STUFFS! I stop playing. Now this year I returned more focused, created a lv1 character and decided to explore the game.... now i'm feeling the game really smoth, enjoying wvw, pvp, open world. Each day thar I log in i play a diferent game mode, and when I get tired of one i just go to another. For me, its working
@@fernandomurta7720 Yeah, that pack is really meant for your 2nd, 3rd or later character to skip leveling. Although even then it can make sense to learn a new class step by step. I still have both my 80 boosters...
Should also include the goodies in achievements. I only just realized there were Mastery Points in achievements. Thought that I would never max out all my mounts, but it might be doable now.
The really first thing I would recommend to a new player is actually working on some masteries. Pact commander in specific for the auto loot. So doing stuff in core Tyria or related content until atleast this one is maxed. The legendary crafting tree is not that important for beginners and the third only if you enjoy fractals.
I've been Level 80 for a while and I just wander around like a lost puppy 95% of the time. It's been effective in getting a number of legendaries so far. Highly recommend it.
My thing when I hit 80 was to pounce on path of fire mount unlocks. Everything i could get before doing any story. I later realized there were many masteries unlocked via story and felt kinda silly but still happy to have jackal...
Me as an veteran player since from 2014 and still going on and who has tryed all content its worth it ... like i mostly enjoy pvp and pve world comps,dungeons,world bosses,and some random stuff that can be soloed but for first timers out there try all content out and see what you like to play and do on guild wars 2. There is no "right" way to play the game just enjoy doing things you like 🧐
My brother in law and I play gw2 together. My main is an asuran and I have a nice mix of the races between my classes. Everyone one of his is a norn. I jab at him every chance I get for it.
I just hit lvl 80 on my 12th character, i have to watch this Btw: as you talked about strikes i recently saw Bone, WoJ, freanir, kodans 500li....500li???? where it is gonna end? 250kp of all raid bosses? prove of money on your account from your bank? just crazy
Ignore those groups. Some people are just crazy. It's not even like 500li means that you know and understand the strike bosses. And with a bit of competance they can all be done with Exotic gear easily.
Strikes are meant to be "training" for raids. They are easier than raids and should not require proof of raid boss kills to complete. That said, if a highly experienced group wants to just blaze through content and not talk at all, they are certainly allowed to do that. I'd honestly recommend just making a new group with "zero li" in the title and it'll probably fill up fast.
And if you really don't wanna do all those stuff... Just do POF for mounts. Then do HoT for gliding. Can never go wrong with getting a Raptor and a glider.
It's oke to be a norn group is gonna need to be opened up after those shots by muk. XD Norn it up folks after that we will have a feast and most likely destroy the party tent we rented and then bob will have to pay up for yet another tent.
I just reached level 80 today. I'm very much new to GW2, less than two weeks actually. So, I did enjoy this short guide on a list of things to do after reaching level 80. But does anyone in the comments know of a video shorter than 4 minutes on how to aquire a flying mount? It would make it easier to get around for sure, thanks. (Yes, I'm still working on the story, I'm on chapter 7 'Forming the Pact' almost at chapter 8.)
There are two flying mounts: Griffin: reward from a questline and collection you can start AFTER finishing the path of fire story, (requires 250 gold over the course of it) Skyscale: reward from doing a questline that requires path of fire and all of living world season 4 completed. (requires 50ish gold but much more time than the griffin over the course of it)
I watched the video and I'm still owerhelmed by the amount of stuff you can do, but I've been like these for 2 years already, so I'm getting used to it
Could you do a vid on what to do with only one or two hours to play per day? Like which dailies to hit for highest roi, and which places to focus to efficiently progress all the wonderful content
The Personal Story one I am iffy on, not sure if the rewards are actually that worth it. And post-Battle of Claw Island I feel like the story just keeps nosediving. Personally I am looking at LW Season 1 and Heart of Thorns story next.
@MuklukTH-cam I've occasionally come across folks who are having trouble finding groups. Do you have a video on the various options for finding groups: guilds, commander & mentor tags, LFG, map chat, ... ? Might be useful for new players, though I feel like folks who've been in the game a while already know the drill.
Everything depends on time. Kill Teq, ley, do daily and it takes 1h minimum if u got luck to get flow teq->ley>daily Otherwise it will take 2-3h So....
Muk, are you recording at 1440p or higher resolution? It looks so ... clean. I use dx12 and reshade(with Tekkits filters), but I don't get these crisp visuals... at 1080p
I actually had dx12 off when I recorded this, but I had most of the in game settings on Ultra (I crank em up for recordings then back down a lil for gameplay).
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You forgot the Fashion Wars, where you spend gold/money to buy insanely expensive infusions to make your character look like a christmas tree on crack so you can participate in competitions, get rewards or just stand still in low-level zones to blind new players.
I want to be one of them. is this real?
Mukluk is a gem for this community
No. He's our vial of liquid aurilium.
I agree with you Mukluk is very likeable if not lovable I find him personally lovable
He has given me the basis and info I need after 4 years to jump back in.
Yes he is great the videos teach and inform and they are funny I love it
Muk is the reason I started playing ‼️
It's OK fellow Norn - Asura who resent us due to their height complex just haven't realized we are wonderful climbing platforms for them yet.
And an excellent base to place turrets on.
And there is always the good old and never ending ACHIEVEMENT HUNT, that will keep you forever playing the game
Woman play game......waaah
Omg woman ahhh female mmm :)))
I am sure there was an Anti-Norn joke in here somewhere, but I might be too stupid to understand it.
i cant find the anti warrior pun too. whats going on?
@Zachariah Alejandro just a heads up for anyone reading these.
these are bots paid to advertise
This one's gonna get a lot of traction; it's asked so often on stream
"Try to follow them around, and hit what they hit."
More valuable advice was never spoken.
This is so useful! I just hit level 80 and finished my story yesterday (first time for me and yes I got teary-eyed when that song started to play haha) and was wondering what to do next. Thanks Muk!
And if you're done with all of those there's still fashion wars, minigames like Keg Brawl, miniatures to collect and of course you can learn to play Dragonforce on your harp.
Just hit 80 with 2 friends today, perfect timing on this video! This is just what we needed, thanks.
"Or they play norns and think that's ok"
I feel so attacked right now
"... or they only play Norns, and they think that's okay." Nice...
A bird told me 24/7 Norn roleplay is fairly lit these days
and it absolutely is ok :D love norns. hoelbrak is home
As a norn necromancer i agree with this
One thing I see missing is mention of Mastery Points. Getting Auto-loot is very important QOL.
Getting MP can be combined with many of the other things (bosses, world exploration, etc.), but should cover how to look at what provides MP and how to go after it.
I just got to 80 a few days ago, been getting mounts and some masteries since then, so this video is greatly appreciated :D
Very helpful. Thank you. I feel like I'm the eternal nub in GW2, despite playing it for ages!!! Plenty of guides to choose from to help me out having new objectives!!
Always a bonus having your vids Muk :D
Great video Muk! Saving this for one of my buddies once he gets to 80 his first time. Keep up the great content.
Mukluk, thank you for your page and passing on knowledge. I have recently returned to GW2 and your explanations have been quite informative and entertaining to get caught up. Thanks a bunch
Saw you on MM's podcast yesterday! Awesome channel, subbed!
Fresh level 80 should work on getting glider and mount masteries first. It will make everything else go smoother like map completion.
OTOH you could argue that it makes Tyria maps too easy and fast. Some people might enjoy doing it the way it was originally intended. The difference esp. with mounts like Griffon or Skycale and on some maps Beetle can be night and day.
@@kaltaron1284 They simply gives you an option since some parts of the map are frustrating without a mount or glider. You don't have to use them if you don't want to but it's there if your need them.
@@kaltaron1284 Saying you don't want a mount is akin to saying you don't want a car in real life. You'd have to be a rare breed to turn down something that makes life easier.
@@jackrabbit1704 That depends a lot on the city/area you live in. I can get by quite easily with a bycicle and public transport.
@@kaltaron1284 I'll be enjoying my ferrari, don't mind me. Ahaha jokes aside, good on you, i'm glad people are still able to tap into that gaming side of them. There's nothing wrong with going with no mount, it's respectable if anything, just not always practicable.
Hey, this is me! Excellent timing.
Next Guide: 32 slot bags, right?
Already done: th-cam.com/video/PswfSKO7qTE/w-d-xo.html
The only thing missing from that one is reinforced boreal trunk which is the 32 slot bag from bjora added since I made that video. I'll add that to the ideas sheet.
I'm a returning player that hasn't played since I bought Heart of Thorns and quit shortly after because of real world circumstances, and this guide helped me tremendously. Thanks so much.
Thank you MukLuk. Now I have an answer whenever I hear someone ask about what to do at lvl 80.
"Go watch MukLuk's video and become his Loyal Minion!"
Just got back into guild wars 2 and got got all the xpacs. My god you’re video a god send. Started my OG launch account with a fresh character and just completed the base game story. Really enjoyed it (tho buggy at time) living stories are wonderful. Sadly season one can’t happen (did it YEARS ago) but lovely they add a recap to it (needed to jog my memory for it). Thanks for the video. Makes it so easy to have these as bullet points (haven’t played mmo in YEARS.)
As someone who’s solely casually pve for past 6 years, this kinda makes me wanna get into more of the other competitive features 👀
Thanks Muk x) although I'm curious u didn't mention WvW specifically, but I'm not touching that mode unless I have full ascdd anyway, and still have s3 up to IBS to finish, I am overwhelmed with the amount of things I have to do honestly, ur content is amazing, one of my favorite people in general, thanks again
at 2:26 I went over WvW, but thank you for the kind words 🤗
@@MuklukTH-cam yep, my bad, totally missed that part xD probably because it's the last thing on my list in the game
Mukluk, lighting our paths since always
I just started playing and I have so much exploration to do but I love it so much!
Pretty sure at least half the people watching this are like me and don't need the information, but just watch it because of Muk :D
This is great, gonna recommend this video to a lot of new players I'm playing with! :D
So glad this channel found me. really good tips
I always take year long breaks then come back to play the game for a year or two, everytime I come back I have to watch this video, thanks Mukluck
Did not know about the wiki et command thing. That along will make me curious to come back. You earned my sub lol I'll definitely check out your other videos.
I feel like thats a "i have a guide for that!!" Video :D good content!!
I’ve been spending my post level80 time getting all my mastery tracks leveled (for the expansions too) through metas and bounties and getting all my hero points for both elite specs and enough stored for the EoD elite spec once it drops. Joining hp/wp trains makes this soooooo easy. Oh and of course getting all mounts. I know this is mostly PoF and HoT but I’m sure many people who get to 80 are interested in those too.
Best guide short and all info👍
Once you have done all of this there is achievement hunting. I actually found that hidden in the achievement panel there is quite a bit of story and lore things sprinkled in there in some collections and events. Its really cool. Its also satisfying to see pages of completed content. I think achievement hunting and Fashion Wars 2 are post end game though here for the super hardcore no life nerds
Thank you so much for this guide!
The best guide content on gw2, thank you!
I misheard the last bit as "and that should be enough to get you started as a fresh old lady"
Finally! A video that broke it down in a way I can understand! Just hit level 65 and was dreading endgame but you made it so easy to grasp 🙏
I would add to add some special mention to that:
-dragon responses missions allows you to buy ressources crates, which are RNG but some crates (usually the most expensive one) gives a lot of pretty nice stuff. Of course you pick the crate that gives you whatever you need (right click on the box-->preview) but as far as crafting ascended stuff goes, it helps a lot.
-dungeon, while fun grants less reward and are less populated these days so yeah you may struggle a bit to find a group
-new player who have access to Path of Fire should work their way to unlock mounts. I wouldnt be exagerating by saying mounts drastically changes your life in GW2. On top of making exploration easier, it makes farming much faster thanks to the mobility and it will greatly helps you in making money/ascended stuff.
-yeah get an ascended stuff for fractal. You wont regret the reward when you'll do your high level fractals
DRM is so boring that this advice will only make the new player bored and stop playing
@@TH-camChillZone these missions aren't hard or anything and I would just treat them as free daily ressources crate. This is something new player can do just fine and it will help them on the long run when making leg/ascended stuff
Great vid. Should have expected a Norn joke from a race who wears the sorting hat haha....keep up the good work
I feel overwhelmed in gw2 everytime i log on. Bought and played it at release, came back at PoF and recently started again. It's just soooo much to complete mounts, gear etc.
I feel like many players leave the game again because of that.. Hopefully Arenanet can make it more clear to new or returning players.
Yeah, thats totally true. And the lb 80 booster pack that you receive when you purchase the expansion doesn't help at all.... my first time playing gw2 was last year, and I loved the game. As soon as i started, i bought the expansion and... used the pack. Mannn..... the first week i got fixed on doing my core history, and when i finished it.... WHAT SHOULD I DO? ITSA FUCKING BIG MAP, AND A FUCKING A LOT OF STUFFS! I stop playing. Now this year I returned more focused, created a lv1 character and decided to explore the game.... now i'm feeling the game really smoth, enjoying wvw, pvp, open world. Each day thar I log in i play a diferent game mode, and when I get tired of one i just go to another. For me, its working
Actually is way easier to understand that mostly of MMOs, you just need to read or watch some videos tu understand.
@@fernandomurta7720 Yeah, that pack is really meant for your 2nd, 3rd or later character to skip leveling. Although even then it can make sense to learn a new class step by step. I still have both my 80 boosters...
Should also include the goodies in achievements. I only just realized there were Mastery Points in achievements. Thought that I would never max out all my mounts, but it might be doable now.
The really first thing I would recommend to a new player is actually working on some masteries. Pact commander in specific for the auto loot. So doing stuff in core Tyria or related content until atleast this one is maxed. The legendary crafting tree is not that important for beginners and the third only if you enjoy fractals.
You hit level 80?
Anakin: "This is where the fun begins"
Long time mmo player, new gw2 player. This channels been super helpful! Thank you :D
As a casual returning player this video is a blessing. Subscribed
Me and my 9 norns need to have a word
I've been Level 80 for a while and I just wander around like a lost puppy 95% of the time. It's been effective in getting a number of legendaries so far. Highly recommend it.
haha...no
Don't let a ranger find you
This makes me want to visit GW2 again and boop some dragons!
I'd add to the list, all the living story episodes, meta events, and achievements.
He did mention the meta events. Agreed on the other two.
My thing when I hit 80 was to pounce on path of fire mount unlocks. Everything i could get before doing any story. I later realized there were many masteries unlocked via story and felt kinda silly but still happy to have jackal...
Thank you very much!
Me as an veteran player since from 2014 and still going on and who has tryed all content its worth it ... like i mostly enjoy pvp and pve world comps,dungeons,world bosses,and some random stuff that can be soloed but for first timers out there try all content out and see what you like to play and do on guild wars 2. There is no "right" way to play the game just enjoy doing things you like 🧐
I always loved the look and story of guild wars 2 but never had pc till now,
My brother in law and I play gw2 together. My main is an asuran and I have a nice mix of the races between my classes. Everyone one of his is a norn. I jab at him every chance I get for it.
I just hit lvl 80 on my 12th character, i have to watch this
Btw: as you talked about strikes i recently saw Bone, WoJ, freanir, kodans 500li....500li???? where it is gonna end? 250kp of all raid bosses? prove of money on your account from your bank? just crazy
Ignore those groups. Some people are just crazy. It's not even like 500li means that you know and understand the strike bosses. And with a bit of competance they can all be done with Exotic gear easily.
Strikes are meant to be "training" for raids. They are easier than raids and should not require proof of raid boss kills to complete. That said, if a highly experienced group wants to just blaze through content and not talk at all, they are certainly allowed to do that. I'd honestly recommend just making a new group with "zero li" in the title and it'll probably fill up fast.
Thx so much for this guide . I think the first step for me it's to clear every chronicle and succes of them, them full clear map 😀
And if you really don't wanna do all those stuff...
Just do POF for mounts.
Then do HoT for gliding.
Can never go wrong with getting a Raptor and a glider.
I was laughing my ass off at the "wtf just happen" chat tab. I assume it's the battle log lol
No where near a new player but thank you for making this type of content. Commenting to appease the algorithm.
Wonderful video ! And well said .
2:36 - follow them around, and hit what they hit...
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Defile what they defile. Eat who they eat.
returning player after 3 years awsome to info us
Thanks
thats good to hear that the story gives good rewards only if i didnt get the dam conection lost bug on victory or death quest that be nice :D
It's oke to be a norn group is gonna need to be opened up after those shots by muk. XD Norn it up folks after that we will have a feast and most likely destroy the party tent we rented and then bob will have to pay up for yet another tent.
I bought GW2 on release almost 9 years ago and only just reached 80, lol. Thank you for the guide!
im currently at level 51 right now. can't wait!
literally just hitted level 80 and this popped up,thanks
oh shiiii... this is what i need
Perfect timing
I'd just reached lvl 80 yesterday
I hit level 80.... 23 times.... but I still watch this video!
Hit it three, and this still helped me out
I just reached level 80 today. I'm very much new to GW2, less than two weeks actually. So, I did enjoy this short guide on a list of things to do after reaching level 80. But does anyone in the comments know of a video shorter than 4 minutes on how to aquire a flying mount? It would make it easier to get around for sure, thanks. (Yes, I'm still working on the story, I'm on chapter 7 'Forming the Pact' almost at chapter 8.)
There are two flying mounts:
Griffin: reward from a questline and collection you can start AFTER finishing the path of fire story, (requires 250 gold over the course of it)
Skyscale: reward from doing a questline that requires path of fire and all of living world season 4 completed. (requires 50ish gold but much more time than the griffin over the course of it)
I watched the video and I'm still owerhelmed by the amount of stuff you can do, but I've been like these for 2 years already, so I'm getting used to it
Could you do a vid on what to do with only one or two hours to play per day? Like which dailies to hit for highest roi, and which places to focus to efficiently progress all the wonderful content
thanks :*
Me, watching this video as if I haven't had multiple level 80's for years now... Guild Wars is life lol
I love this video. It’s like a hub video for all other videos.
I'm so overwhelmed with this game.
super helpful video
Thx very much
The Personal Story one I am iffy on, not sure if the rewards are actually that worth it. And post-Battle of Claw Island I feel like the story just keeps nosediving. Personally I am looking at LW Season 1 and Heart of Thorns story next.
Hit level 80 and got into guild, and been doing fractals fun times
@MuklukTH-cam I've occasionally come across folks who are having trouble finding groups. Do you have a video on the various options for finding groups: guilds, commander & mentor tags, LFG, map chat, ... ? Might be useful for new players, though I feel like folks who've been in the game a while already know the drill.
I don't currently, I"ll add that to the idea list.
Getting ascended weapons are super easy because there are achievements which help out a carp ton!
A guide for more guides. i like it
Nice pointers, thanks a bunch.
Quick question, does Twilight Greatsword still not change the Mesmer's vfx from blueish purple to black?
Everything depends on time.
Kill Teq, ley, do daily and it takes 1h minimum if u got luck to get flow teq->ley>daily
Otherwise it will take 2-3h
So....
Muk, are you recording at 1440p or higher resolution? It looks so ... clean. I use dx12 and reshade(with Tekkits filters), but I don't get these crisp visuals... at 1080p
I actually had dx12 off when I recorded this, but I had most of the in game settings on Ultra (I crank em up for recordings then back down a lil for gameplay).
infusion trains are my thing... fashion wars ftw!
you should also include the expansions story and masteries....
Why would anyone downvote this? Oh I know WOW players!
Yes.
once you hit level 80 go to WvW and play with Monkeyshinezz or go to PVP and have a friendly chat with everyone on the map.
It's not even 10am yet Muk
_Gotta go fast_
o7 salute the algorithm!