Stop Charging your Phone Overnight!
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"what did you do at work today?"
"Got stuffed into a car with the rest of my coworkers"
😂😂
😂
nikolai60 SOCIAL DISTANTING XD
And then got COVID-19
cow oinkers
Just leave your phone off all the time and it'll last years.
Nathan Locke thas a hassle
@Omega Closeups, yeah because only charging it to 60% and discharging to 50% isn't :D at that point its just easier to not use it at all
Just remember to charge it to about 60% (40-80%) before storing it.
If you don't turn your phone on, it doesn't need a battery at all
finally someone gets it
I don't think you should care about your phone's battery, care about your teeth instead. You have only one set of adult teeth and fixing just one dead tooth can cost more than an iPhone XR Max. You have been warned.
Whats my dentist doing here
thanks mom.....
my dentist is stalking me
g43654 it costs just 5$ here with pretty good service lol
g43654 they did surgery on a grape
Imagine a wireless charger that knocks your phone off when it's at 100% lmao.
Oh wait it's at 100% JOHN YEET THE PHONE
Get Micheal Reeves on this immediately
You want it to knock it off *before* 100% (around 65% or so).
I bet you could write Tasker profile to do that
Apparently most phones and laptops *cannot* in software stop the charging; it's hardwired into the charging chip. A nifty universal solution would be a charger with a microphone and an app that plays a particular tone/sequence that tells the charger to turn off. Would work with any phone.
If I stay between 25-80%, I'm only getting 55% of my battery capacity, which is the equivalent of massive battery health degradation done on purpose from day one, so I don't really see the point.
This. I have never had a phone or device battery die on me, including devices I have left charging over night or even hooked up for months in a static location. Sure, there will be a loss in capacity over a period of years of use. But the screen also has some scratches, and the ports have wear and tear. Things just age with use.
Easily the biggest factor that makes the phone's age apparent is software updates. As better software is released it utilizes more and more flash memory for primary storage, and the CPU spends more time hanging at 100%, which in turn drains the battery faster. The battery and hardware degradation is negligible compared to that.
Sam same, except laptops. I've had plenty of laptop batteries die on me, but that's usually after years and years of use and abuse. Never had a phone battery die.
Or how about flaslights from Imalent and Nitecore that can drain 8 3400mAh batteries in as little as one hour and charge all 8 of those batteries (3400mAh 'each') in less than 3 hours (via built in charger inside the torch) with a life span of 500 total complete 0% to 100% charges before the health of the batteries start to slowly decline, and then there is the fact that using an Imalent DX80 at max 32,000 lumens burns your hand if you hold it in the light and sets fire to news paper in less than 3 seconds and the batteries are in the same body and 3 centermetres away from the LEDs which go up to 90 degrees celsius.
All inside 4mm+ thick aluminum housing.
Cellphone batteries declining from heat by charging? What a joke, overcharging prevents those batteries from reaching 100%, when you see 100% on your phones is that the MAXIMUM capacity of your battery? No.
People take said rechargable batteries and use specific charges that allow for overcharging which let's them put more juice into the battery.
A cellphone battery is in no way at any point of its life time "100% charged to its maximum capacity".
It's more about keeping the battery healthy, so if you know you will need a lot of power you can still use full capacity ocassionally. The bigger problem is, that nowaday phones don't even last longer than one day, except for example Moto Z Play, which can last for 3-4 days.
Kabbone
A cellphone battery is in no way at any point of its life time "100% charged to its maximum capacity".
That is why the term "overcharge" protection exists.
This video is based on no credible facts whatsoever.
When you see 100% in the phone the battery is actually around 85% to 90%.
1:42 I see Linus is a man of culture
Indeed he is, who would've thought.
1:55 on his watch it says "LOLI"
Holy shit man, thanks for pointing that out!! I didn't noticed it cuz i'm watching youtube at my phone and didn't look at the phone properely cuz i'm doing something else simultaneously rn 😆
17:07 ....military time
@@Svre3009 the video's 7:18...how do you get 17:07?
I clicked this video knowing it wouldn't change my mind
Same
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i was gonna like it but it’s at 69 likes nice
I’m still confused and forgot what to do
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The phone should automatically stop charging at full battery and start charging again when it's replugged.
Exactly the point is
The god damn nintendo 3ds does this. Why cant modern smart phones
basically they want you to damage your phone to buy replacement or smth
@@maselitoamazigh1385 that's not true
if we think about solution there are even better ones
like setting a time for phone to be ready
example of an option that should be available:
i plug my phone at 00:30 and set the phone to be ready at 8:00
the phone knows that he just needs 1 hour to fully charge se it dont start charging until 7:00 so at 8:00 it would be ready and fully charged and then there should be another option that it would stop charging like its unpluged
and the third option is to set a timer or a porcentage to begin the charging again . example : i didnt uplug my phone at 8:00 when it was ready the phone started discharging because of the second option but i set it to begin to charge again if discharges to 75%
that mean you would never find your phone dead but still 99% of the time you wont hurt the battery ...
I wish we didn't move away from easily user replaceable batteries
SDG Danny samsung didnt apple did
JP Lowe cant replace the batteries in newer samsungs easily like the older models
JP Lowe why do people use apple products?
I just don't understand.
They made a phone without an earphone jack, and changed there charger type like 5 times, yet people keep going back.
John Paul they changed the charger once...
chillin with my LG G5
Life’s too short to be worrying about a god damn battery life.
Lorenzo Cordero give this man a battery
@@jldude84 only if you are using an iphone
@@jldude84 only if your using a iphone
Makes sense
Lorenzo Cordero why the fuck did you watch the video then?
"non-replaceable" **laughs in Galaxy S5**
Laughs in cheap-ass plastic phone*
@@SuperDamiano1997 this cheap ass plastic phone is the most durable shit you could ever afford
@@FrostyFoxGamingIGM Also it's struggling to run modern apps/OS and has 4 year old hardware, lol
Cries in any other smartphone that doesn't have plastic body
Well hey at least it have a replacable battery
I would prefer to use a note 4 if I wanted replacable batteries in my phone tho
"Non-replaceable battery"
Me with my Galaxy J3 Prime 2017: Sorry, is this sort of rich joke that I'm too peasant to understand?
oh god bless your kind soul
Horrible Histories reference 😂
Sheesh update your phone!
some of the "non-removable batteries" literally just have a metal plate over them
I mean hey, that's newer than what I got
Hi, Electrical Engineer here. You can't charge a battery on a voltage it doesn't discharge, it doesn't work that way. Batteries only accept the voltage they discharge. Stepping down a voltage, as you would from the wall power, steps up the current proportionately, since it has to follow Ohm's Law. From the wall, power is usually stepped down to 5V, which is the USB voltage rating. By stepping the voltage down by a factor of 24 (in the US), you are stepping up the current by a factor of 24, which is something no charging cable could handle so current is then limited to something reasonable like 2A. However, in the phone it must be stepped back up to the discharge voltage of the battery. In my S7, that voltage is (drum roll) 9V. By stepping the voltage back up by a factor of 1.8, you reduce the current by a factor of 1.8, leaving you with a charging current of 1.11A. By giving the phone a voltage that is already something the battery can accept, you can charge it without reducing current significantly. A fast charger for my S7 would supply 9V at 1.8A, and the difference in current results in faster charging.
Additionally, phones have had a little feature for literally years now that actually prevents reaching a 100% charge for any protracted length of time. If such a battery level is reached, the phone begins discharging, even while plugged in, to reduce the charge level to something closer to a safe level. Further in the favor of the battery, modern batteries, last I checked, have safe charge/discharge levels between about 90% and 20%, with the ideal level for long-term storage being around 50%. I wouldn't quote me on those numbers, though.
Furthermore, the only batteries I would expect to be damaged from heat are cheap ones found on some Chinese section of Amazon or in an Apple phone. The heat is not caused directly by current flowing through the battery, but rather by the chemical reaction within the battery itself. Lithium-based batteries operate off of a chemical reaction that creates an ion drift from one pole to the other, and this reaction generates gas and heat. Coincidentally, this reaction becomes significantly more efficient at higher temperatures, but can be limited by limiting current. Modern phones have such current limiting capabilities, and good quality batteries are sturdy enough to withstand the heat generated by normal charging and discharging. Again, the only batteries I would worry about are cheap ones, and those can be deadly dangerous since lithium is one of the most reactive elements on the table.
hawkeye2816 So Apple batteries are low quality? Not a salty apple fanboy asking, just a curious viewer.
It was just a dig at the expanding batteries a few years ago. Same sort of thing as the exploding batteries Samsung had for a while, but I don't think Apple did a recall. Could be wrong, though.
hawkeye2816 They blamed it on the consumer when some iPhone 7s "turned up the heat".
Not to mention that almost any modern Li-Ion battery has a built in chip that will protect it against over-current and over-voltage (and I think some of them even have temperature cut-off), even if you take it out from the phone and connect it directly to a cheap battery charger (which I wouldn't do btw)
tl;dr. someone?
Or buy a Nokia 3310, charge it one time and never again.
NOTE 7 IS BETTER, AND YOU ONLY CAN CHARGE IT ONCE
Joseph Catanzarit I think you were misinformed over the years about the Note 7 incident. What happened was when Samsung rolled out an update for the Note 7, then shit started to get out of hand. Batteries swelled, heat generated, and then combustion and explosions. Which means if you didn’t update your Note 7, and manage to block automatic updates from happening, you can still use your Note 7 like a normal phone.
My old nokia 1100 battery used to last like 2 weeks charged
Or buy a brick, no charger needed😂
Which phone comes in every fone topic?..just for fun!. Yeah u named it!
It's bad enough that I can't even get a full days usage out of my battery, now you want me to only use half of its capacity?
Ikr
MWB Gaming bruh i saw your comment on * 28 days later vid roasting some muslims 🔥🔥🔥
@@fire3769 I aim to please
he didnt ordered you to do so, the choice is yours either using it half or not.
@Sushant M 1:40 how about Linus? he kept that anime girl pillow 😌
Just as a heads up, I personally use AccuBattery on a non-root S7. It doesn't hard cut the power, but it does come with a configurable battery percentage limit and an alarm notification when you've charged up to the limit. If you pair that with not charging your phone at night, it works pretty painlessly. Plus, it has a decent "battery wear" metric, so you can get a decent approximation of how much wear you've put your battery through historically, as well as about how much wear you induce per charge session (charging past ~60-70% seems to dramatically increase the wear on the battery)
Speaking of premature death, Tunnelbear
And now for a dead meme
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TL;DW Don't use your phone
Maor Aharon *TL;DR
FTFY
@@cloudninja8748 TL;DW Is a thing
@@maoraharon21 what does TLDW mean then
@@samhughes711 too long didn't watch. Tell me sir, how are you going to read a video?
Subtitles
I usually charge my phone BEFORE going to bed. And that works pretty well. I mean the phone wont lose that much charge when not in use when sleeping anyway. It's usually between 95-85% left when i leave for work in the morning.
So basically you want to optimize your batterylife by turning your device into a wired device on and off most of the day? That kinda defeats the purpose of a battery, doesn't it?
only when it convenient and when you do need a long life battery ie a long work day or a weekend out then u can give it the 100. thats the point of it. preserve the battery when you need it to last
common people.
first of all : when an OS says the battery is at 100%, it is never FULL.
Second : The battery has protection circuits, which will anyway limit the battery charge to not make it vent out.
third : the worst with lithium batteries is to keep it discharged.
4th, lithium DO dislike being fully charged, but there is NO WAY to know if your battery is really fully charged when your phone says so.
5th : What lithium batteries hate the most is heat. Which is why I highly recommend avoiding gaming on modern phones, while they can do it, they heat up which in the long term will reduce the battery's life.
The worse thing to do is to charge the phone WHILE playing, as it gets even hotter. But keep in mind it will not kill the battery directly...
6th your battery WILL get used. Deal with it. No magic tricks exist to make it last forever, and honnestly, if you're having battery problems, try disactivating bluetooth, wifi, anything you can if you don't use your phone. Also screen brightness changes things a lot.
traeng finally someone who understands something
5th: your phone will start running off the wall once the battery is "fully" charged, so it's not really a problem. Like you said, it vents. Also, it doesn't move ions, but electrons. That really bugged me.
yeah i was wondering where the ions suddenly came from
Admiral Chronophylos maybe inside the battery? That Lithium or something else, dunno
play the shit out games on my phone lol. I've played from 5% charging all the way to 90. Whatevs I'll buy a new phone in 2 years be all good. So far I haven't ntoiced much reduction in battery life form 1 year.
Nah man. I need my phone at 100% before I go to work lol
COD4LIFE same here
Same
i charge is before bed and turn on airplane mode when i go to sleep, in the morning its on 97% try it
get an external battery
Or school😂
Hey, Sony phones have the option to prevent full charges and increase the battery lifespan.
They also have an analizer for the charging habbits that will Control the charging rate, so It will only finish charging by the time you disconnect. They also have another feature that analizes your battery's health and adjusts the charging current acordingly.
My old z5 already had those features.
So our smart phone isn't smart enough to stop charging at a certain percentage? Greeeeeat
Not true
It is smart enough, he says this in the video
This is the best comment by far. Especially since the profile pic is trump
When a battery reaches 100, it trickle charges to stay at 100....that's like eating till you're full and then continuing to casually nom random snacks to remain full.
How is it supposed to be the phone to stop charging? Is there a charger doing it? Back to physics class... chargers should get smarter, get info from phone to stop at 95%. A programmable charger would be the best.
The truth is Lithium ion battery degrades just by existing.
Sad but true. That's why you have to maintain stored batteries so they don't self discharge completely and kill themselves.
This all sounds like lithium batteries are really depressed in some way...
how am i supposed to have a charged phone for the day without charging overnight? wake up at 3am to take it off the charge pad?
You could make a little robot arm do it for you and put it on a timer
Or wake up at 3 to charge, that way you get 100% when you wake up
plug in on night and plug it out when u want to sleep... then continue charging when u wake up
I got 80-90% battery by doing that or you could just wake up earlier about 30 minute to get ur phone 50% charged
I like how your picture compliments your comment
Outlet timer plebian
I’ve been coming across this man’s videos for about a year or so and I’ll tell you what, those sponsorship bits he does are so smooth I don’t mind listening to them like “did you just get me with an ad or is this still part of the video?” 😂 you officially get my SUB!
"as well as Xperia™ phones!" gotta love their builtin batterycare and 4k displays
Keep this in mind, though. Over 2 years by charging up to 100% and then back down without worrying, you'll lose on average about 20% - so your battery health will be ~80%, but usually better. By only charging 60-80% to keep its health... you're essentially sitting at how much charge you'd have lost over the years anyway. It's not too much of a worry at all.
Ions are huge, dude. You cannot transport ions through a wire, unless it's a salt bridge.
Electrons get transferred.
always ace i doubt he was trying to say the battery gets filled up from the wall
ions get transferred as he said, just inside the battery
Laurie O they are not, ions are atoms that have more or less electrons than their uncharged atom depending on if they're positively or negatively charged ones.
transport does not = transferred when talking about atomic transfer
Battery has salt bridge
Schleck re Still massive compared to electrons
Question: does this apply to laptops as well? I'm always working with my laptop just plugged in
The act of charging heats your battery, and use of magnetic induction heats the coil.
Since the phone is a thin device, the additive heat between the battery and coil can damage your battery further.
Use a lower wattage wired connection if you want to keep your battery health pristine as possible.
What if you work nights and sleep days?
J3 Prime But you can’t charge it overnight either, so you aren’t allowed to charge them at all?
No
just apply the opposite mentality charge at night don't charge in the day
TheDutyPaid no vamps.
2nd shift 6 to 6. I charge mine soon as I get home in the morning & try to unplug it in the 90% percents. My battery is 3200 so it easily lasts all day until the following morning, unless I burn it up with TH-cam/videos. An if I take it easy with videos, 2 days no issue. Adjust your charging schedule, I don't even have a car charger cause this is so effective for me
That's why I still have my LG V20 as my daily driver. Easily swap batteries whenever. Zero down time (except when swapping batteries). I wish LG made a upgraded version of the V20.
The LG V30?
Even I use a V20, but then still it won't even last a day
And by the way, does your phone powers off when it's between 15%-5%? Cuz mine just powers off all of a sudden.
PandaGD no as it doesn't have a removable battery ir blaster or as durable
They did, the LG v30
When you're at school and see an ad for a VPN
I'd like to see a study which one is actually more damaging to the battery: a) charging to 100% OR b) frequent under capacity charging due to 100% dilemma, this would result on the current to flow on the middle parts of the battery much more frequently than it should have if all 100% is being used. Imagine a wood planer is being run on just a particular portion of a wood instead of the whole board, this will make the frequently run portion much deeper than the other parts and will bore a hole soon.
I replaced my phone battery last week, just popped the back off my Samsung S5 flicked out the battery and put a new one in.
Two weeks the battery in my S5 lasts if I literally don't use it at all.
Try the motorola Z family, they are Moto mods compatible so you can put a extended battery on it.
The internal battery is not replacable, but who needs that when you can just switch the extended Battery.
...But its not stackable. That would be awesome.
Riedler Musics do not buy a Motorola phone. Follow this link to see a 117 page forum explaining the crap battery life with Moto z phones solve Motorola released android 7.1.1 update. My phone doesn't last 2 hours off charge. forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z/Moto-Z-extreme-battery-drain-after-7-1-1-update/td-p/3758100/page/117
I have lg g3 its so good to have phone, with removable battery...
Lucky you. Sent my s6 phone in to get battery replaced by geek squad 4 months later, 150 phone calls, and much lying, I walked into best buy told them my story and now I'm getting a $784 gift card in the mail. Lucky I had my wife's old s6 active!
P.s. Maybe manufacturer battery replacement is a better option?
When my phone battery isn't full,I felt unconfortable
Get a power bank, i did and never looked back!
you are a weak person
@@rodrigojds uh,huh
Sure big guy
@@rodrigojds Hahahahaha
Go get checked for OCD
Are there any other batteries with more efficient storage of electrons other than lithium?
Thank you. Finally someone took the time to explain new phone batteries and charging. I've been so confused for SOOOO long and couldn't find anything to help bridge the gap from the 90's
TLDR, dont worry about it!! Continue charging overnight. A discharged battery will definitely ruin your phone, but a fully charged battery will only discharge a small bit of electricity and get ruined after 4 or 5 years (which is the lifespan of normal batteries). Check RC lipo battery experiments. Keeping batteries fully charged and unused does NOT ruin them. U might get a month or 2 extra life at the end of its life, but the device would have been outdated by then anyways. Only real answer is to buy replacement battery when it dies.
+Ashwin Mohan
Wrong. It's actually better to keep your battery around the 40-80% mark in terms of charge for your battery to last the longest and for the longest possible charge in those long term scenario's where having it at 100% constantly made it only last 1-2 years, while having it at 40-80% could've made it last all the way to 6 years.
Like Linus said, if you're the type of guy who switches phones every 2 years, don't worry about it, and whoever you sell the phone to on Ebay it'll be his problem, not yours.
Nighterlev u are WRONG. Might have been true when lipo was just coming out. These days, the difference is like an extra 2 months of battery life after 5 years. Like Ashwin said, don't worry too much about it. Main thing is to avoid draining Ur battery too low. Keeping it topped up is actually fine.i have done RC planes and drones for 12 years. Keep all my batteries fully charged and they last 4 to 5 years. a battery built to last 2 years will last 2 years wether u charge to 80 or 100 percent.
+Ashwin Mohan
LOL WHAT Did you not pay attention to what Linus himself said? You can increase your phone's battery longevity by YEARS by doing this simple trick. All phone batteries are the same, the only difference is there capacities (3500mah vs 5500mah etc).
As I already stated, in the short term, you won't have nearly as long of a battery life vs keeping it at 100% all the time, but in the long term, having only 80% battery and having it last over 1-2 days vs your other phone you kepted at 100% all the time only last maybe 12-24 hours.. It's a huge difference altogether.
A battery built to last (aka batteries that cost over $200 on there own, hence why RC planes and such tend to cost pretty top dollar for the quality one's like you mentioned) are just fine keeping it at 100% all the time even if you can actually make it's battery life last far longer doing the same trick, but no one really cares when you could just make it last 5 years at 100% all the time and still have the same life span. You're literally comparing top dollar batteries built to last and are pretty heavy on there own vs cheap relatively light weight, heat inducing lithium batteries that manufactures like Apple or Samsung put in there phone's to save like $400-500 in profit.
I also don't think you realize, but phone batteries in particular when kepted at 100% all the time, will only last you like 3-4 months before you start noticing problems if you're the type of guy who kepted it at 100% all the time. You can increase said phone battery's longevity by YEARS by literally doing this simple trick.
Lol, Anker has tons of faith in their product, so of course they sent it to you.
You can't really go wrong with Anker - all the products I've used from them have the build quality of tanks
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Alexp10v2 except for the included cables
Nah, those are good too.
TBH - I've never trust included cables with anything (unless pre-attached), so I can't say anything in that department.
are they like .. have auto turn off the charging process if the battery full ? i have it with my *ehem* got-inside-the-box LG Q6+
is this completely different for other devices/brands? I've always charged my iPad overnight and it has lived 5 years so far.
however, the screen does bulge a slight bit like an old tv, is that from the battery?
Tldr using your phone in any way reduces battery health. In other news grass is green and water is wet.
Water isn’t wet tho...
Actually, the TLDW is that charing your phone to or near 100% reduces your battery's lifespan, and so does discharging it to or near 0%. The point of the video wasn't that using your phone in any way reduces battery health. Also, it's called TLDW, not TLDR.
I must've been lucky with charging overnight to 100% on my Xiaomi Redmi Note which is now around 5 years old and still working fine.
MischievousMoo In that case what does the "W" stand for?
watch
one thing I noticed people mention “storing” the battery at a certain percentage (40-50%). the reason they do it is because the time it’s not being used (charge/discharge) is prolonged (as in more than 24h)
that doesn’t apply to a battery that’s being used daily and no, you can safely charge your phone to “full” (which is when the phone stop pulling current through the adapter), and not worry about degradation.
the discharge/charge cycle is a complete drain from the battery full to empty state controlled by the operating system (100-0)
using your phone to 50%, the charging to 75% and using another 25% is only 3/4 of a cycle, for example. the OS won’t allow you to completely empty the battery, until you force it, and that is to prevent the electrolyte from being “strangled” with no source to “feed” from
charge as you wish. by the time your phone starts to be affected by battery degradation it will be obsolete anyway.
SR_Qianna true.
Even then, you'd possibly have bigger wear and tear related things to worry about like microscratches, dents in metal frame, cracks in the glass if you didn't repair them, diminished water resistance over a long period of time, etc.
Don't forget burn in ;)
Not true. Pokémon Go for a month or 2 when it was popular is largely responsible for my 66% max capacity health not quite 2 years old.
SR_Qianna do you know what the voltage of a phone battery is when the OS says it's 0%? I have other devices powered by larger lithium batteries that show 100% at 4.2 and 0% at 2.9.
Nice that way by the moment there are 5billion phones in the world we would be all out of lithium mines..
1:09 Me looking at my average after studying for three hours.
i have an LG stylo 4, i actually like the phone it does everything i need it to do..... except the battery is non-serviceable. i am a local truck driver, so i typically charge my battery overnight and use it all day at work. the battery lasts me a full day. am i better off buying a charger for the truck, and instead of running on battery throughout the day keeping the phone plugged in when im in the truck thereby actually running very little on the battery? im guessing it would last much longer
Oh come on Linus :( Scaring people that fast charging is at a high voltage of 14.5V? I though you're better than that! That's the voltage on the USB cable, and as soon as it gets into the phone it gets step-downed to the cell voltage by the charge controller. You might as well say "Don't go to Europe, as they charge their phones with 230V chargers!!!11!!". The higher voltage of fast charging USB adapters is there only to avoid high currents on the tiny USB wires and connectors.
I'm pretty sure USB outputs at 5V my dude
Crimson Gaming not fast charging on Samsung's phones
My samsung fast charger outputs at 9v @ 1.87A or 5v @ 2A
yeah. the fast charging means that the charger sends more amps rather than voltage. the 5V stays the same. If you look at the charger, it says on it it's specs like output voltage (5V) and max current (2.1A on my powerbank)
also they DO make "fast charging" cables able to whistand more current. basically a larger cable.
You can't "send more amps rather than voltage" that isn't how electricity works. E(voltage) = I(current) x R(resistance). If you want more current then you need either less resistance or more voltage. Since at a given charge level the internal resistance of the battery is fixed, to get more current you HAVE to raise the voltage, there is no other choice. You can't just "send" some extra amps.
Your rechargeable discman and gamegear batteries weren’t lithium ion back in those days, NimH and Ni-Cd batteries didn’t have the ability to remember their charge, so if you didn’t charge them fully and then discharge them fully they lost the ability to remember capacity charge.
Modern Lithium ion batteries don’t have this problem, and will always charge to capacity even if you use them without a full charge, but they WILL eventually die from charge cycles.
What you were told as a kid was actually true about your batteries.
Blu3ManiC Actually NiCD would physically damage from charging when not empty and NiMH it's more that chargers are pretty dumb. Get a good intelligent charger and you don't need to do full charges for NiMH. In fact cordless phones rely on that.
Alex Atkin there wasn’t such a thing as “intelligent” chargers back then, I’m talking about what he said in the intro, that as a kid he was told to only fully discharge then fully charge or the batteries would stop remembering their charge. Which was true at the time.
Well I had several intelligent chargers while growing up ... with NiCd they would discharge completely and then start charging, when full they would just keep if from discharging. And for NiMH they would not discharge before charging (NiMH will take damage when fully discharged) and up the power to increase charge speed.
For both types you would want to get them as low as possible (for NiMH without fully discharging) to fully utilize the limited ammount of cycles. Lithum batteries are way more forgiving in that regard... as long as you stay in the optimal zone it does not matter if you charge 4 x 10% or 40% at once.
NiCd batteries are amazing for low powered stuff you seldomly use. Even fully discharged you can store them for years without killing them or loosing max charge.
I wish he had gone into more detail about the rooted apps.
What about Macbook battery? My macbook will consume the power from the adapter when it charges the battery to 100%. So the question is should I leave it plugged in to preserve the battery or unplug it and maintain the battery around 60-70% but lose battery cycle instead?
I had always thought batteries of today have been intelligently manufactured especially "Lithium batteries" such that it ceases to allow excess voltage when it reaches the threshold of the voltage it needs. I have been charging my phone overnight and I must say that I have not experienced any issue of battery degradation whatsoever.
What i know is when your phone is fully charged it starts to trickle charge basically like having little snacks to stay full. And your battery would have degraded over time every battery will degrade no matter what. Just depends on how much it degrades to see if its rather noticeable. Your battery probably hasn't degraded all that much hence why you haven't noticed it
It takes current not voltage to charge it. The voltage is the pressure applied to the current to get it down the cable and into your battery 😁
I've been charging my OnePlus One overnight every day for 3 years with no noticeable loss of battery life.
Jehan Kateli shhhhhhhh
Jehan Kateli Oh you would notice if you compared to new battery.
I've got a oneplus one that had 8-9hrs screen on when new. Now it is only able to do 5hrs screen on.
darkfire2022 5h is still pretty awesome, my 3 months old S7 does around 3.5-4h and thats still good. Some people get 2h. What oneplus model is it?
Adam Vulture - I actually usually have my mobile network off since I'm usually at a place with WiFi. If I had my mobile network on, I would get like 3hrs screen on. I have the oneplus one model which is more than 3 years old
what’s the point of having good battery health if you never use it all
Ethan McIntyre you win the internet today sir
Because on the rare day that you might need your phone for an extended amount of time you can have it.
@@andremartinez418 But I've been straight up abusing my Note 8 battery for 2 years and it's still fantastic. I dont think all the worry is worth it
Some people dont use their phones that much as they have computers. But they really need phones for just a little when they are away.
My 2016 xiaomi redmi 3s was discharging from 80% to 40% in 48 hours for a long time. Now it holds it for about 36 hours.
So the point is not wasting money on new phones (as quality of replacement batteries is disgusting).
What would be absolute perfection is making the phone work on external standard batteries.
Good day Linus
I have a question
When you talk about the fast charging I came to realize that my phone (3500 mAh battery) actually takes over 3hours to charge fully from zero to hundred. I checked my phone's specifications and realized that it doesn't support fast charging. Should I still buy a fast charger because I can't sit and wait for a phone to charge for 4 hours and it's possibly damaging my battery?
I would really appreciate your response.
Thank you.
it's okay to use fast chargers because the fast charge or the higher voltage (ranging from 14.5V/9V - 2A/3A) output works only if the device can support it, and if your device does not support this fast charge function it will just charge on the regular charging (most likely 5V - 2/1A) voltage which means you are not damaging your battery.
I can't imagine a life that cares that much about the battery health of their phone and constantly babysitting it to get the most longevity out of it.
Jinzo9988 I am that guy.
"constantly babysitting" more like "Take the charging cable off before sleep, and plugs back in when waking up"
So charging the battery is bad. Discharging the battery is bad. Keeping the battery at 100% is bad. Moral of the story, batteries are bad. I’ll invent another form of providing an electronic device with electrons. #fundshiloh
Shiloh A GRAPHENE SUPERCAPACITORS!
Really long wires?
Elon Musk, where the blyat u at? Sending cars to space!? we dont need that shit! Make us new baterries, blin!
You could use water to store energy: pump it up (charging), and then let it run down through a turbine to turn it into electricity again. Great stuff for phones, no idea why its not a thing
So I’m thinking you need to move ions from one area to another through the introduction of electrons. A small electron beam targeted at an area of a device containing ions from the cathode to the anode, where the cathode itself is made of a material that provides little to no wear and is strong enough to a much higher extent to defy expansion and contraction during cycles, thus allowing the sustainability of a discharge current indefinitely or just for a very fucking long time.
iOS13 has new optimized 80% charge until use feature
So, if I charge my iPhone using the included 5W/1A charger over night, does this still damage the battery? I only use the “quick charge” 30W adaptor at school/work...
I think a video on different battery types and how their chemistry affects the way you should treat them would be nice.
Daki in bed - check
Watch that says loli @ 1:53 - check
Hey Linus, whats going on buddy?
I see you are new to this channel
Look up the NSFW Cuddle Challenge on ChannelSuperFun
It's also how Dennis became great
17:07 is the modern man's 5318008
palace what i dont understand?
Oh, hey. Yoko.
Good taste.
Noorquacker shes feeling me!
My tab s6 has charge / discharge limiting option built in. I was excited to see this option as I tend to keep my devices for a long time. Hopefully my new note 20 has the same feature option.
what if you don't have a fast charger, wireless charger, or user-replacable batteries? I am using the ipad charger in order to charge my iphone. Is this good enough?
Honestly it's probably less work to just disassemble your phone every 2 years and replace the battery.
For most phones yeah
Agreed. People get so bent over batteries. These are real physical objects that wear down. It’s not planners obsolescence. It’s just regular wear and tear.
bladudemovies true!!!
I'm sure TH-cam enabled links in comments only so they can ban the people who use that feature...
Makes sense. /s
Now, if only it was easy to find reliable or original replacement batteries at a decent price...
We are not in 2001, this is old news and newer tech has software to prevent this. I have had my Note 3 since 2013 when it came out. Original battery, charged to full every other night with fast charger and honestly there is not even a noticable difference in battery life.
Slugontharug thats bullshit In my opinion, I have a note 3 and its battery sucks
my notes battery sucks lol
My note 4 battery noticibly dropped in how long a full charge lasted.
no matter how well you treated your phone, there is no way it's battery life didn't decrease over the course of the last 5 years.
@Jacob I am being honest, it is still my daily driver , only problem with it is charging port is a tad wiggly so sometimes I have to put something small under the cord to hold it up while it charges and doesn't disconnect.
@gopro_2027 there was a recall on Note 4 batteries, due to over heating. I don't know if you ever got the battery exchanged.
One thing I wanna add is that you do not charge to 100% drain to 80 then fill, or drain to 50 and fill. You charge it to 100% use the entire charge til the phone says it is low, (1-15%) then fill it right back up to 100%
What do you think is the highest/healty temperature for a battery when charging?
Out of curiosity. Should you do the same with a loptop. As i keep mine plugged in all the time.
Thanks for the information, but I'm gonna do what I do. Charge it the way I want to when I need to.
As someone already said my phone is meant to make my life comfortable.
I shouldn't even have to worry about when and how I should charge the battery.
Watches video
Charges over night
Then those people,
Watches video
Root's Phone because of this video
Charges over night
Watches video
Types this comment
Charges overnight
I know not to do this anymore. even though I've done it for months on my k20 plus... does it help if I have a desktop fan keeping my phone cool at night?
Batteries don't "sit at 100%" Linus. When your phone says 100% when plugged it's actually cycling between roughly 90 to 100% full for this exact reason.
My indicator on my battery is completely wrong cause did what this jerk said and now when I unplug battery says 1% plug in and says 100% so yeh I can't risk my phone going dead
Chris Etler totally right, actually we can charge any phone for double the power , but then the battery can only last for 1 week, so the manufacturer kind of using just half of the battery, so when your phone say 100%, its just half of the real battery inside
@@SKYELOVER how is that his fault
@@pravda9646 because he lieeee
@@SKYELOVER cause your battery indicator is wrong
1:44 nice anime pillow. LOL
CraftMinerKyle it's his wife you bigot! Wheref you think he got his kids from?
Bought them
Damn, nice catch. I would have never known.
If anyone wants to know, it’s Yoko from Gurren Lagann
totally missed it while watching... cool bro!
why dont they make kill switch for charger when phone is at 100% , so it wont charge anymore
i had that on my old motorola l6 u could set how long charger will stay on 1 , 1.5 , 2h and i had that phone for 7 years with no big changes in battery life , its not smart phone but it cant hurt RIGHT ??
SaVage they already do have this “kill switch” though its not quite named that way
well the problem isn't there, first lithium batteries like ~40-60% everything else strains the battery and more when it's 0% or full 100%. BUT when you charge your phone 100% ...the BMS(Battery Management System) inside the battery(usually soldered on top if we talk about lithium polymer nowadays) cuts the power supply to the cells BUT if your phone is on then it would eventually go to 99% and then the phone would be charged to reach 100% ...when it goes 100% it will stop then when it goes again to 99% again it would be charged for this 1% - you are FUDGING the battery stop it! (draining the battery to 0% does more damage)
Actually I think that most batteries this days are protected I remember when the first mp3 players were released, it was very easy to burn the battery back then, but now they can stand that.
EvroNetwork that’s dumb, when the battery reach 100% it just stop charging ant starts drawing powerdirectly form thewall exluding the battery.
You know, this is really interesting to me. I know (and have known since my Galaxy S4 days) that I shouldn't be charging my phone overnight. However, since I got my current S7 (yes, I'm stubborn and cheap), and they took away my ability to easily swap my battery, I just adopted the practice of leaving it plugged in at night out of convenience. Yes, I've suffered some degradation, but given the amount of updates and abuse I've given it over the past 3 years, no more than I would expect with the usual planned obsole... , excuse me, normal upgrade cycle. I've done this pretty much every single night for all but the first 6 months of my S7's life and it still just chugs along.
Maybe my phone is just sadomasochistic?
1:42
"Its gonna be lit"
1:08 I'm packing up my things and leaving, Linus.
wtf are you doing here ??! lets play some rotmg :D
lmao I can't believe you found me here
hahahah I was very surprised and happy when I saw you here. I love your videos, keep it up.
SAME WTF LOL I quit rotmg tho so yea
Go play realm >:(
Let's wait for the graphene batteries to launch
Oh, and what do you plan on doing in the meantime ? Light up your screen with a candle ?
It's like 3 years at least.
way more than that for mobile pones
does it also apllies on Lithium Polymer battery tho?
My pocophone and P30Pro both using Li-Po battery
When would you charge it then
for android rooted user , you can search for app caled "Battery Charge Limit"
SabayZone Or don't believe this garbage video
Drew Lakebrink there are plenty of studies saying that you should stay between 20 and 80 percent. Don't call for bullshits if you don't know anything.
Drew is special
Łukasz L you are also special. In a diffrent way
SabayZone or cpu limiter
I have always let my phones fully charge overnight and generally keep them for 5+ years without any battery capacity issues. I'm sorry but I am really skeptical that constantly connecting and disconnecting a charger to keep the battery in its optimal range makes all that much difference long term. And it's an enormous hassle that nobody will be able to keep up with for very long.
every 500 charges your battery's total capacity gets cut in half is the pretty standard rule. I doubt you had no issues after 5 years of nightly charging, or you use your phone less than 30 mins a day so you wouldn't notice.
I work in IT so I have to use my phone constantly. I usually go to bed with about 50% battery since I use extended batteries on my phone. After 3 years on my current phone that has dropped to about 40% charge left at bedtime. Buy a several year old used phone and test it if you don't believe me. There is no way they drop that fast. If they did all phones would be borderline unusable after 2 years. Can I have a source on that figure? Because every single source I can find says 80%, not 50%. Which is pretty consistent with my personal findings.
Linus: You shouldn't charge your phone!
Me: No, I replace the batteries when it runs out.
How significant is heat in the longevity of the battery? I like charging wireless, but I notice my iPhone XR case is warm after charging. The phone also gets warm when I use certain apps like ifunny. My case is pretty thick. Wondering if I should change to a bumper case or if the heat is not really something that I should worry about. I'd like to get several years of use out of the battery.
I'd love to see an exposé on batteries. There is so much misinformation about batteries from discharge ratings, capacity and other things. Especially with the direction our society is going, there really is only going to be more batteries in devices, and relative rating terms like "1C or 2C" just don't makes sense. I appreciate what you guys did in this video. I think, your channels have enough exposure to actually make a difference, and who knows maybe even offered a tour by someone like Panasonic or Sony at one of their manufacturing facilities.
I have the perfect plan leave your phone in the box. You will never have to worry about anything, it'll never fall, it'll never get dirty and it will last forever. Then five years from now you can sell it on eBay.😂😎
1:42 I have a new found respect for you Linus
The charge it all the way, then discharge it completly plan was from back in the days of NiCad batteries - Do they make them anymore?
Lmao that body pillow in the back
I remember xD
Yoko is best girl.
I got a mlp body pillow, i can confirm they are comfy
When?
1:41
I believe the electrical engineers of these companies have already designed these mobile devices to safely charge and discharge your phone batteries. The end user should not be worried about having to do all of these things shown in the video.
Orr, they might want the end user to not worry about having to do all of these things shown in the video, so that they will pay them money to replace batteries (which the user can't do because ???) or replacing the phone completely (ahem ahem Apple)
Yeah. Those devices totally aren't engineered to fail as soon as the warranty runs out while being good enough to get certified as safe. I mean, why would they do that? To get you to buy another one? That's not what they want!
There is already a "reserve" on both ends of a battery anyway. Sure they may be rated at 3,000mAh on the sticker but they may actually be 3,800mAh with the 3k usable. Kinda like formatting a hard drive.
Yes and no. Basically they made it as safe as possible within certain costs, so you are safe enough to not be able to sue them. While in most cases, charging is safe and if anything goes wrong, failsafes will kick in. But they won't prevent whole "degrade" effect. Meaning after two to three years of charging like that, battery life will definitely be effected and charge will not last as long. Failsafes will just prevent it from blowing up, as batteries are explosive and combustive. And yes, if it swallows and you get tiny hole in that battery, so oxygen gets in.... well you either better be fireproof or not have phone in your pocket. Still, as I said, there are failsafes, which make it safer and also some of them will simply prevent you from charging or even using battery in certain conditions where it is in danger of exploding or combusting, however critical failures like that will also make it useless. But if you really want to keep your phone long term, like 5 years, you will have to make sure battery also survives the way to that end, with ability to hold decent charge. Or get a phone with replaceable battery. If you will be replacing it every 1-3 years, you are mostly fine.
Oooor they didn't, so the phone breaks, you can't easily replace the battery and you buy a new one...
Not that I have to worry with my Note 4.
explain then please why a friend of mine is stil at 97% max charge according to ios settings on his iphone 8+ hes been using for like a year while my iphone xs is at 86% max charge according to ios and im only using it since february 2019. he is literally not giving a damn about charging his battery (always over night charge to 100% and basically always charging) while i try to be careful and rarely charge over night and try to stay between 20% and 80%. pls explain that makes literally no sense
Do these numbers work just the same for car batteries?
I like to live dangerously. 😏
Already watched a video on this weeks ago. That brought in actual experts. Both said charge it to 85% to better preserve your batteries and concluded that batteries are meant to be used and if need be replaced....
Why not do a slow charge at 1 amp? Or an overnight charge at 500 milliamps? will keep the heat down and bring it to a 90% by morning?
I use a smart cable and charging block. They can communicate with the device to stop feeding power once the battery hits 100%. the cable itself even has an LED to let you know if it's sending power to the phone.
I was just about to charge my phone over night 😂😂
tarun bharti Are you in Pakistan?
i do it everyday or should i say night
same
U high? its not night.
Jimmy Willysson It is called time zones 'Idiot'
Yeah the battery care on my Xperia device only charges it to about 90%, then starts the last 10% about 90 minutes before my alarm is set. Theoretically the Qnovo charging is making those charges less damaging as well.
something1random23 Love the feature on Sony phones
Great thing about Sony's are that they vary in charging voltages as well. Never too high of a voltage
Amen to that. Other manufacturers should employ this. It's only software yeah?
well, if all it takes is rooting a phone to do this too then I'm gonna say its just software
The Xperia XA2 Ultra is what I have and the battery saver feature is great.
2:13 Nice cap with Monstercat!
wait do u have to use wireless fast chargers for this to work, or was he just showing them of?