It really is. The old GT Pro's lights were frustrating, and only present on the toggle switches. The new material is also a huge improvement. The faux-suede/alcantara was horrible to keep in a nice condition. The new material looks much better.
That endless wireless mod is exactly what I was going to do to an f-core, really reassuring to see that it actually works, thanks for the extra effort you put into your videos!
i'm doing that wireless mod to my f-pro, wasnt 100% sure on the jst connector size so i ordered a 2.54 and a 2.00mm connector from china, they cost almost nothing anyways. come to think of it, it was you that convinced me to not go with fanatec but make the step up to the high end market and now that i've used the cube controls f-pro for a couple months i'm so glad i listened.
I find it crazy that these wheels cost as much as a gaming pc. How much can it really cost to build those? This one perhaps its somewhat justified because everything is custom made, but any brand that sells in higher volumes have no excuse imo
Different markets for different people … the people that buy these, like myself, they’re gaming pcs cost a lot more than these wheels. The quality difference in these wheels compared to something about half the price is night and day when I received my fpro by cube controls. the price is completely justified to me once u get one in hands. In my mind it’s like a luxury car… some people think it’s ridiculous the price, and some people don’t and see the quality and craftsmanship in them
@@truantraydefinitely not just a dc motor. With stuff like Simucube, Asetek, and vrs, it’s an industrial servo designed and built for hard use and long service life. Not some piece of fanatec junk. And the wheels are built with high quality materials and components at low volume. Again, not a piece of fantec mass manufactured junk
High end simraicng is a very small market. Theres not too many simracers that would gladly drop 7 to 10 benjamins on a steering wheel. I doubt that it cost an astonishing amount to make these wheels but its probably still relatively expensive. I personally would be bummed if a wheel was 100$ more than where it could be priced fairly but we love simracing, and mid to high end gear is not going to be purchased by everyone so if it keeps high end simracing alive then I think its worth it.
I was curious about this (with the GT Zero rim), but, once you add VAT, it becomes too expensive for what it is. The Ascher McLaren wheels start to look a lot more attractive to me.
Just got today this GT rim and mounted it on a simucube takho 21 button box, it fits very well and I love the shape. However I totally agree with your comment on the grip, I wished they used the same rubber of the CSX3, this is a bit too slippery even with gloves
I love a worn sued wheel it has more appeal to me, it tells a story, its like something you would see in a battle hardened race car, rather than what you'd see at your local car dealer showroom display. 😃
Would also be interesting what you think about the new McLaren Ascher Rims. I bought the Ascher f28-sc v2 on a Black Friday Deal for 599€ and was hesitating because the new Rims are 300mm and the shifters are quiet, but I wasn't sure if it was worth the extra charge of 200€.
Tested friends Ascher mclaren rim, and it is perfect me, also i has gt zero rubber, also very comfy rim but the plastic feeling is a bit annoying, but i would not buy for such price cube controls rim with button plate, mclaren is in another league!
Great review currently using Fpro and I only ise the wired method as bluetooth mode would miss shifts at times. Would think about buying this but that GSI black friday deal was 2 good to pass on to Hyper P1will be under my Xmas tree and I am super excited!! 🎉
@@DanSuzuki I am turning blue holding my breath to get it. Hahaha now if only it can lower my laptime and increase my irating I will really be in business!! Happy Holidays!!
haaaa I have the exact same multimeter that thing has been serving me so well ahahaha if you are on the super cheap you could also just grind down the threads closest to the head so they become captive screws. also the squished wires could have been the reason for the light leak. also simagic using AC wiring colours hahah black for hot green for ground
I dont no why but the parts on theses rims remind me of high end rc drift cars. Also as someone who works on cars and wiring smashing wires like that will cause issue in all kinds of ways and in small was i would come up with a solution before they send them out
is a Simagic QR50 really can fit to it? i heard that this QR have just 50mm PCD (can't find real info anywhere), while everything else in the market have 50.8 PCD
Hey Dan, just curious, would you recommend the outgoing CC GT Sport wheel at around half the price? Already have a full featured wheel (Grid MPX) but need something with enough functions to swap over for cars that are better with round wheels. Thanks in advance.
@DanSuzuki lol he's the only channel that I've heard "leave an emoji for the sake of engagement" I want to be good at cities skylines 2 but my cities always look so stupid. Then I watch his videos and it looks so easy, and I can still never get it right. So now I pretty much just like watching his videos because he's so good at it.
I got the V1 as well. It has perfect RGB colors for what you would want and great placement of the buttons and The paddles are strong and accurate and perfectly placed. I don’t see a reason to upgrade imo. Companies try to redesign wheels usually not because it’s better but because they want people to ditch the old and buy the new. Also it doesn’t look at high end, I hate that it doesn’t have the Italian colors under the logo and it’s using thinner carbon fiber.
Works fine for me for the last two years, done tonnes of official races with it, but my monitors are low enough that I can align the dash or hud where I can see it through the wheel. actually feel quite immersive, I can use it for rally fine but mostly I just use a cheap round wheel for that.
@@jeeziRacer price is subjective but you called a $1000+ wheel cheap. I could build a nice i7 PC, minus the GPU for that. A wheel costing the same as an entire PC isn’t something I’d call cheap.
What do you think of the wheel? Worthy successor to the "old" GT Pro? Also don't forget to like and subscribe 😊
It really is. The old GT Pro's lights were frustrating, and only present on the toggle switches. The new material is also a huge improvement. The faux-suede/alcantara was horrible to keep in a nice condition. The new material looks much better.
Mostly GSI - I do a little bit of freelancing on the side as well, but nothing related to steering wheels obviously :) @@____________________ok
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Is there any lag time with the Bluetooth and simagic wheelbase?
There always is lag ... but to answer your question: it's absolutely neglidgible and in line with the latency if you use a cable@@mattzuli6079
That endless wireless mod is exactly what I was going to do to an f-core, really reassuring to see that it actually works, thanks for the extra effort you put into your videos!
i'm doing that wireless mod to my f-pro, wasnt 100% sure on the jst connector size so i ordered a 2.54 and a 2.00mm connector from china, they cost almost nothing anyways. come to think of it, it was you that convinced me to not go with fanatec but make the step up to the high end market and now that i've used the cube controls f-pro for a couple months i'm so glad i listened.
I find it crazy that these wheels cost as much as a gaming pc. How much can it really cost to build those? This one perhaps its somewhat justified because everything is custom made, but any brand that sells in higher volumes have no excuse imo
Different markets for different people … the people that buy these, like myself, they’re gaming pcs cost a lot more than these wheels. The quality difference in these wheels compared to something about half the price is night and day when I received my fpro by cube controls. the price is completely justified to me once u get one in hands. In my mind it’s like a luxury car… some people think it’s ridiculous the price, and some people don’t and see the quality and craftsmanship in them
They are a niche market and certainly overpriced for that is essentially a DC motor. But simps keep buying them.
@@truantray it’s a wheel … not a direct drive motor
@@truantraydefinitely not just a dc motor. With stuff like Simucube, Asetek, and vrs, it’s an industrial servo designed and built for hard use and long service life. Not some piece of fanatec junk. And the wheels are built with high quality materials and components at low volume. Again, not a piece of fantec mass manufactured junk
High end simraicng is a very small market. Theres not too many simracers that would gladly drop 7 to 10 benjamins on a steering wheel. I doubt that it cost an astonishing amount to make these wheels but its probably still relatively expensive. I personally would be bummed if a wheel was 100$ more than where it could be priced fairly but we love simracing, and mid to high end gear is not going to be purchased by everyone so if it keeps high end simracing alive then I think its worth it.
I was curious about this (with the GT Zero rim), but, once you add VAT, it becomes too expensive for what it is. The Ascher McLaren wheels start to look a lot more attractive to me.
Just got today this GT rim and mounted it on a simucube takho 21 button box, it fits very well and I love the shape. However I totally agree with your comment on the grip, I wished they used the same rubber of the CSX3, this is a bit too slippery even with gloves
One of my favorite looking wheels. I like the zero look more.
I love a worn sued wheel it has more appeal to me, it tells a story, its like something you would see in a battle hardened race car, rather than what you'd see at your local car dealer showroom display. 😃
Did you ever get that part number for the jst connection. Tring to connect my amg wheel to simagic.
Would also be interesting what you think about the new McLaren Ascher Rims.
I bought the Ascher f28-sc v2 on a Black Friday Deal for 599€ and was hesitating because the new Rims are 300mm and the shifters are quiet, but I wasn't sure if it was worth the extra charge of 200€.
Tested friends Ascher mclaren rim, and it is perfect me, also i has gt zero rubber, also very comfy rim but the plastic feeling is a bit annoying, but i would not buy for such price cube controls rim with button plate, mclaren is in another league!
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Great review currently using Fpro and I only ise the wired method as bluetooth mode would miss shifts at times. Would think about buying this but that GSI black friday deal was 2 good to pass on to Hyper P1will be under my Xmas tree and I am super excited!! 🎉
Definitely a good choice ... I'm totally not biased here 😂
@@DanSuzuki I am turning blue holding my breath to get it. Hahaha now if only it can lower my laptime and increase my irating I will really be in business!! Happy Holidays!!
🤩 Thanks Dan. Already ordered the new STD 98 Button Box from SimCore...any chance George is sending you one for review?
haaaa I have the exact same multimeter that thing has been serving me so well ahahaha if you are on the super cheap you could also just grind down the threads closest to the head so they become captive screws. also the squished wires could have been the reason for the light leak. also simagic using AC wiring colours hahah black for hot green for ground
I'd like to get a Zero for my Fanatec DD1. I'm not sure if I should go with the button box and adapter or just the rim on a fanatec paddle module.
I dont no why but the parts on theses rims remind me of high end rc drift cars. Also as someone who works on cars and wiring smashing wires like that will cause issue in all kinds of ways and in small was i would come up with a solution before they send them out
i think the sim racing hardware prices are getting out of hand
Dan, you believe the GT zero TPU rubber will hold up for everyday use?
Could you review a Zen’s Simwheels wheel?
is a Simagic QR50 really can fit to it? i heard that this QR have just 50mm PCD (can't find real info anywhere), while everything else in the market have 50.8 PCD
That's a very good question, it worked fine with the GSI hub but I couldn't get it to fit the Cube Hub - maybe that's why 🤔
Thanks Dan for this review!! Really Cool with QR Simagic. I will try in my FPro
Very nice Epix Pro.
Haha thanks, absolutely love that watch, best thing is the integrated flashlight 😅
Hey Dan, just curious, would you recommend the outgoing CC GT Sport wheel at around half the price? Already have a full featured wheel (Grid MPX) but need something with enough functions to swap over for cars that are better with round wheels. Thanks in advance.
Doese the gt/ Formula Rim fit with the Fanatec Button module endurance?
Not likely. The old version could only be used with spacers, to clear some buttons. This should be the same.
It does fit with the Fanatec Podium Button Module Rally, with Podium Hub or Universal Hub.
New QR when?
Wow the pinched wires surprise me.
Hold on, is Dan a fan of the city planner plays channel?
Yes :D Love playing Cities Skylines :D How do you know though?
@DanSuzuki lol he's the only channel that I've heard "leave an emoji for the sake of engagement"
I want to be good at cities skylines 2 but my cities always look so stupid. Then I watch his videos and it looks so easy, and I can still never get it right. So now I pretty much just like watching his videos because he's so good at it.
Haha that's funny 😅😅Yeah, I pretty much start new cities all the time because I'm so uncreative at it :D@@Hardcaslte
Dan, JST 2.54mm 4 pin connector, right?
Correct- it should be this part (no guarantee) www.amazon.de/VISSQH-120Pcs-Connector-Battery-Compatible/dp/B0BW41Y5S5
Did this mod a minute ago, works fine. Execellent, Dan! Falls du noch 59 Stecker gebrauchen kannst sagst Bescheid, ja? 😅
@@masprofxhey, did you had any issues until now? I’m thinking on also doing it and was wondering if there is any long term down side from doing that.
@@davidsobreiro3583 hey, no issues at all. the perfect mod for cc bt wheels + simagic base.
@@masprofx thanks. I have a moza base, apparently I can use a simmagic QR and still pull the trick. Definitely going to do it 👍
I own a v1 GT Zero. This v2 gen isn’t doing it for me. Looks a little too toyish to me and seems like not enough buttons. To each their own.
I got the V1 as well. It has perfect RGB colors for what you would want and great placement of the buttons and The paddles are strong and accurate and perfectly placed. I don’t see a reason to upgrade imo. Companies try to redesign wheels usually not because it’s better but because they want people to ditch the old and buy the new. Also it doesn’t look at high end, I hate that it doesn’t have the Italian colors under the logo and it’s using thinner carbon fiber.
I missed how much it was, but I'm guessing too much for me. Cube Controls make such sexy gear.
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What is the point of a D-shape wheel for sim racing? Covers gauges, HUD and cannot be used for rally / Drifting.
I don't know - the same as in real cars? 😅
@@DanSuzuki I bet these wheels would sell better if they were full round. Like fanatec or simagic wheels
just wait for the new gt3 rim for around 300€ they will be offering soon instead@@naimatakku
great review thanks, I wanted to see the new GT Zero rim as I want to replace my alcantara sparco p310 on the old gt pro button base.
Works fine for me for the last two years, done tonnes of official races with it, but my monitors are low enough that I can align the dash or hud where I can see it through the wheel. actually feel quite immersive, I can use it for rally fine but mostly I just use a cheap round wheel for that.
price is way too high.
I wish Cube Controls wouldn't have that fat blue logo on every wheel, always reminds me of a logistics company
Nah I love that about cube controls
Wheel from Zen's Simwheels, tested, offered both with and without logo, very cleanly customized!
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RIP off😂 Will be interesting to see, if someone will go all in gor 1200€ to by a wheel in 70s disco style.
lol.. buy a MOZA setup then.. all because you can’t afford it mate don’t comment. It’s cheap for what it is and I bought 2
@@jeeziRacer price is subjective but you called a $1000+ wheel cheap. I could build a nice i7 PC, minus the GPU for that. A wheel costing the same as an entire PC isn’t something I’d call cheap.
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