@@redrock425 AMEN! Coming from a 30 year construction background they how I made my career! I was thorough and aways had a good finished product but i added my laziness into it to find the easiest and quickest way to complete the project
As a fellow reloader, I'd say I enjoy telling people about my screwups and learning experiences more than anything- that way others don't make them and can enjoy this hobby safely and as much as I do. Thanks for sharing.
That's really cool. I don't reload, but I feel that the same concept applies to many things. Most people try to act like they don't make mistakes, or are embarrassed about doing so. A successful local businessman was on the radio recently. He said that he doesn't talk or care to listen about success. He focuses more on the mistakes. Mistakes teach more in life than anything else.
@@letsdothis9063 What you are describing sounds like Narcissism. There is a lot of that in society unfortunately. Luckily in the reloading world- the groups on the paper don't care about grandiosity!
Definitely helped more than one person. Being humble and admitting your mistakes is rare now. People don't live a social media shiny life. People make mistakes.
I've always preached that "experience is the best teacher". As long as one learns from their mistakes it is a good lesson and I have had many lessons in life. Thanks for the info. If you are worried about friction causing reloading issues what about staggering ammo loads. One tarnished , one smooth etc etc.
I been reloading for over 40 years. When I was competing USPSA / IDPA or just at the range picking up brass here in Florida it will always have a lot of sand or mud in it. I put it in my separator and spin it until it's as clean as it's going to get before putting it in the tumbler. If using a wet tumbler you can wash them first. Then again I am OCD, I decap, deburr flash holes, resize primer / true pockets on all my brass. That's even on all my pistol cal. Over cleaning with SS pins can cause a lot of problems when resizing as I learned that the had way when they first came out. I use the SS pins to clean then corn cob or walnut to shine them up and to help with resizing.
Thanks for the heads up. It won't hurt a thing. I had the exact same thing happen. I reloaded it, shot it all, and it was fine. I inspected my bolt head and chamber and they were ok. I'll tell you one thing that will hurt: If you decide to use one of these DIY wet tumbling recipes with the dawn soap and the Lemmi Shine don't use too much Lemmi Shine (just a tablespoon). Lemmi Shine is basically citric acid and it will pull the zinc right out of your brass and split necks are what I had. Your brass will be reddish when it happens.
I appreciate your humbleness in showing something that did not turn out in order to help others. I have had a similar on a batch I did. The good news is that I was able to salvage that batch by dry tumbling in corn cob media with some polishing solution added in. It turned out very beautiful.
I no longer use anything but water and the a quarter teaspoon of dawn and cut the time to 30 min to an hour. The pins and brass do all the work. And a pre rinse is a must as you have discovered.
Don't forget to clean your pins as well! This may sound stupid. But I always dump the water and clean the tumbler....but I was getting good looking brass that would tarnish in a few weeks, even packed into ziploc bags. Rinsed the pins repeatedly, ran the brass back through and dried it as per normal. Sealed in new bags. No more tarnish. Oh so many small things I've messed up when reloading....lol Great video though! I never thought about the sand sweepings!
I have been reloading since 1972. It looks like your solution might be etching the brass. Dont leave the brass sitting in it. Rinse and dry right away. This is just a guess. Get a brass catcher to keep the brass off the ground. I have never tried the pins in wet solution. If you get some really gritty and dirt filled brass, you can use the washing machine to clean them. I learned this many years ago from the NRA. Take a big towel and put some brass in it say 100 or so. Put your soap on the brass. Then use a plastic tie wrap to hold the brass in fairly tight. Wash normally with other towels. You need to dry the brass when finished. I used a metal colander in the oven at 250 degrees for 30 minutes. The brass will be very clean. Any nickel brass will look like new. In my tumbler, I use Zilla walnut Lizard bedding. I add 1 ounce of mineral spirits mixed with 2 capfuls of NU Finish car polish. Add the solution to the media only first for 20 mins or so to get the mixture into the media. The brass comes out very clean and will have a polish coat on it to protect it. Be prepared to try different things to get how you want ammo to come out.
I have used tumblers and vibratory case cleaners for many years but I now use only ultrasonic cleaners. Hornady One Shot Case Cleaner with a teaspoon of Lemishine. Only takes about 10 minutes then rinse and dry on a cookie sheet in the oven. 250 degrees for 30 minutes and they will be dry inside and out.
Thanks for the heads up! I know there are a million recipes out there for wet tumble, I've only been doing it for about a year and had mixed results with dish soap. On a whim I tried a load with the usual 9mm case of citric acid, and about a 1/4 cup of motorcycle Cleaner degreaser called "Bike Brite MC441G". 1-1.5hrs and it comes out looking like gold nuggets. Finished brass is very slippery and hard to hold onto. It's NOT slimy or tacky, It's like dry skin with baby powder slippery. I took a pic of a tray that was drying and I thought I was seeing a lot of internal water spots. Turns out the insides have a mirror shine and I was seeing the reflection of the flash hole on the inside Wall. This is my recipe, at 29$/gal, it ain't cheap, but I'm keeping it. And no, my precious gold nuggets don't help me hit that barn any better, but my shitty aim is shitty with bling!
I just this week got all of my equipment in to start reloading, so thank you for the heads up! I pick a lot of my brass up the same way and would hate to make that mistake.
The other issue is the juice is probably slightly acidic. I have had similar results with citric acid in the tumbler. Also if you tumble MAKE SURE YOU REMOVE NICKEL COATED BRASS FROM REGULAR BRASS... you will end up with black nickel tarnish on your regular brass. Also dont let it sit... so dont set it up and go to bed or the tiny tarnish particles seem to resettle back on the brass in a perfect tarnish like layer. If you screw it up take a cloth and try to buff a case. If it buffs out then remove then run it again. This time dumping it at the end of cycle or before. It wont take very long... maybe 30mins and everything will be fine. As for the very dirty stuff i can only shoot indoors so you taught me something to look out for. Thanks! Experience is a great teacher as long as it is not all your own.
I am probably way too obsessive about it, but I ultrasonically clean my brass, dry it, and then tumble it in a vibratory tumbler. It always comes out super shiny.
You don't need to use any specialized brass cleaner. Try a squirt of Dawn dish washer detergent and a tiny scoop of Lemi Shine with pins. Process your brass, drain, rinse, and repeat as necessary on next batch. Been using this for over 25 years. Works great and cleans excellent.
Just put them back through the tumbler with stainless steel pins and that should bring them back to a polished state. Or use crushed walnuts in the tumbler.
Where I shoot, the spent brass lands on gravel, so I always wash my brass before running it through the tumbler. I've questioned myself a few times whether this was really necessary. Now I'm glad I do the extra wash.
I live in a desert area, so can relate to the sand/dirt topic being a problem. For this reason, plus protection for my carbide dies, I always pour my brass through a sifter into a bucket of Hot Water with Simple Green Concentrate for 10-15 minutes, while swishing around. I pour this out through a sifter again and rinse with clod eater before placing in my steel pin tumbler. We appreciate your honesty and help for all of us re-loaders out here. I'm sure as you continue to conduct more with all of your re-loading, will be very rewarding to you. Watch your chemical choices closely, for they can cause dangerous and costly results if incorrect. Personally, I like the Liquid Lemi-Shine, 1 squirt in Hot Water, with a small squirt of liquid dish wash soap, or Hornady One Shot Vibratory Case Cleaner. Mine tumble to beautiful Jewelry like clean everywhere in about 1-1 1/2 hrs. max. Rinsed in cold water for neutralization after removing from tumbler. Keep uo the good intentions. Thanks for sharing.
I made my own wet tumbler. Have experimented with time and cleaning solution and have landed on 30 mins with a half teaspoon of citric acid and two teaspoons of dish washing liquid in a gallon nor so of water. 3 hours sounds way, way too long. A brass catch bag with a mesh bottom is handy for shaking out range crud before processing.
Get a manual brass tumbler which consists of a cage which is full of slots with a handle to turn cage. Drop your brass in, give it a few turns.The brass tumbles around and any sand, debris, media, etc. falls out through the slots. This is good for processing used brass before putting it in your tumbler to avoid what happened here and it it works as well on freshly tumbled brass as it get rid of any tumbling media that may be inside the brass. When reloading it's best to concentrate on what you're doing and don't be distracted by any thing. You're lucky this incident only resulted in dulled brass. Had you been dealing with priming or reloading the distractions you mentioned could not only possibly cause damage to firearm or injury, but could be deadly. It's good that one can learn from mistakes, albeit reloading mistakes can have serious consequences and should be avoided.
Never had that problem. Any brass I pick up I put through the media separator first. Not in water, just the range brass. But, I did use Lanolin one time, and I think I must have over-lubed the brass when sizing, and then not had enough soap in the water to keep the Lanolin in solution. What happened was that my entire batch of brass turned green. Didn't know what to think of that of that. Thought I'd ruined it. But another run through the wet tumbler and the brass was shiny again. I stopped using the Lanolin after that, although it was probably just me over-lubing.
Your brass looks like it would be safe to reload but you may run into problems fully chambering or problems extracting. Try polishing in a dry media like corn cob or walnut hulls with a heavy dose of Flitz. There are other polishes but I like Flitz.
Lol, I’m about the same age as you and started reloading about 12 years ago, I ruined a bunch of brass in similar ways until I tuned things up with the help of my friends. I use one of colanders from our kitchen to clear out the crud before and after polishing. I want to try the steel pin method, looks like it’ll polish and clean things better. My advise is to watch how you crimp your brass after bullet seating, I boogered up a few rounds by going too tight. Oh, and never loan your dies to a drunk Marine, lol. Thankfully, a close friend has been reloading since the 60’s and has tons of gear and knowledge.
@@reloading1776 I didn’t expect that anything could be damaged but I loaned him an expander die set with a fixed de-priming pin and he tried to jam it through a Berdan primer case. Ever try to repair/replace those stems? It’s not easy, lol. I just shock my head and ask “how the hell did you manage that!?”
I did that to my friends .270 brass. Another friend that reloads looked at the brass and took it. He ran them in soap and steel pins. It all came out shiny.
Good job keeping a positive attitude! I use the rotary tumbler also, but I use dawn dish soap with some citric acid for cases that are not too dirty; and if they are dirty I also use stainless steel media with the combo. I used to use a sonic cleaner, but the wet tumbler does a much better job. Hope all is well with you and enjoy the journey!
I have a F.A.R.T as well as several other tumblers for multiple years. I have found one main issues and I attribute it to the brass cleaning process. Dull brass/greasy slurry accumulated on brass. Let's start with the cleaning solution. It doesn't matter what cleaning solution you use, it can only suspend so much grime in solution & leaving the brass in long after it stops tumbling allows the grime to settle out of solution back onto the brass. I now use a two stage cleaning process where I first tumble the brass for 15 min to 1 hr with 1/4 tsp of citric acid & Dawn dish washing soap, after I dump the water leaving the brass & pins in the tumbler. That gets the heavy dirt off the brass & out of the tumbler. I then refill the tumbler with water & add another 1/4 tsp citric acid and I use a 1-2 tbs car wash soap with wax. Then I tumble for 1-2 hrs more. The citric acid is only to counter hard water you don't need an acidic solution. By design soap holds grime in solution to remove it from what your washing so if your solution gets over saturated you could tumble it for a week and your not going to get clean brass. Also once the tumbling stops it allows the grime to settle back on the brass. Once you experience this you'll never want it to happen again. The solution to that mess is hot water & a degreaser like Simple Green, tumble for an hour & repeat then tumble like normal. You can use citric acid & a dash of Dawn alone but I like that the car wash soap leaves a little protection on the brass against tarnishing. I have a few other tips: After I'm done tumbling I dump off my dirty water off the top into the sink then dump the pins & remaining water into a plastic bucket/container using the strainer and shaking up/down. I then fill the tumbler with water usually hot water and toss in a HF ceramic magnet and tumble for 5 minutes to rinse off the brass. The magnet catches most of the rough pins. I drain the water completely put the magnet back in after I've removed the pins and add several strips of car drying Chamois to the tumbler totaling 1/3 of a full chamois. I tumble for 5-10 min. This pulls most of the water left in the cases. I always tumble de-primed cases, especially bottle neck cases as they tend to trap pins & water if you don't. This is a chart from Frankford Arsenal [img]i.imgur.com/5k54jx0.jpg[/img]
Do not feel bad about making mistakes when you're reloading, be careful which it seems like you are and learn from your mistakes. Investigate what remedies are available to correct those situations. I have been reloading for several years and I still I am learning to this day. My personal journey has gone from just reloading the brass cases with factory prepared bullets to casting my own lead bullets and powder coating them. I now currently copper electroplate the hard cast lead bullets. Cleaning of the brass is technically not required for reloading however it will make your firearm much dirtier and will be prone to jamming when the firearm does become dirty. You can just put your brass back in the Tumblr with some new media and wet tumbling with steel pins tends to be one of the best ways to clean & polish your brass. I'll strongly recommend you check out some of the other TH-cam creators such as Elvis reloading fortune cookie 45 and Johnnies reloading bench these individuals have helped me very much in my reloading journey.
Never really had that problem before I always manually deprime and inspect before putting in Tumbler, then it goes into an ultrasonic cleaner. Always checking primer pockets for any debris then it goes into the oven to completely dry out before starting the process.
Helping others learn from a simple mistake is how we help each other. I actually wash my brass with Dawn dishwashing detergent before I put in the tumbler as it removes dirt and oily contaminants. You have to shake the water out of the cases and let them dry but the end product is worth it.
Try the new Dawn power wash....Works way better then regular thick Dawn while using less. Rinse with a hose dry then decap and size then tumble with Dawn, stainless pins and a little Lemi shine, 2 to 3 hours and brand new looking brass time.
I sort all used brass in bulk. When it gets to be enough, I start the process. First is to wash in a large plastic tub. Hot water and dish soap by hand. Drain and rinse until clean. Repeat as many times as needed. I ruined a carbide 223 die with dirt once, so I really take that step seriously.
I have had the same thing happen to me. Live and learn. I put my brass back in the tumbler and tumbled them for a hr with a couple drops of Dawn dish soap and a little lemon juice and they came out looking like new again. Your exactly right it's because of all the extra dirt.
I used to reload in a building away from my home/garage. I once forgot about brass being tumbled and caught it 10 days later. Vibrotory so the only issue was wasted electricity.
Nothing bad about this video it was just shining a light on how easy it is to overlook something that is so obvious thanks for knocking me in the head. Hopefully I won't be idiot and make the same mistake! Because now I know better!
I've done the same darn thing in a Vibratory Tumblr with corn cob. But did not get the grit out from a limestone based shooting range. It looks kind of cool! Brushed Brass finish! The worst part about it, It's hard on your Resizing die.😬
Been reloading since 1978. I thought it was common knowledge to rinse your brass before cleaning. Try rerunning them with stainless steel beads. And I use 1/4 oz of dawn dish soap. It breaks down the powder residue.
Thanks for the info it was a lesson learned for sure, but we all learn those lessons sometimes keep up the good work Hopefully this will prevent some of us from making that mistake. Thank you.👍👍
Maybe try re-tumbling that batch (or half the batch) with really fine polishing media people use for rock tumbling. That should smooth out the cases so they don't hang up in the chambers.
I will be doing a vid using that combo on this brass to see if it helps it any, Just di a vid using the pins and Frankford Arsenal's cleaning solution. Check it out here. th-cam.com/video/VWCUyqp7wWg/w-d-xo.html
@Reloading Journey will do. I've never tried their cleaning solution. I wash my brass initially with pins, dawn, lemi shine for around 2-3 hours as well. Comes out looking like gold. When it comes time to wash off sizing lube and annealing carbon, dawn, and lemi shine. Oh, the hottest water your tap will produce as well.
Lol! I did the same thing. I stick to the Lemi Shine/Dawn dish soap combo. I was able to get that residue off by running pins and dawn soap for 30 min or so. I then tumbled the film off of the brass for 2 hrs. If you start using the Lemi Shine/Dawn dish soap combo, be very strict about the Lemi shine measurement. I threw it in thinking more was probably better. It turns your brass turns to an ugly dehydrated pee yellow when you put in too much. I keep a 1/4 teaspoon measuring spoon in the Lemi Shine bottle and use no more than that per batch. I don't measure as strictly with the dawn soap. Obviously too much isn't good but I've put in what I would think is a lot, but it was fine. I guess the science behind those two cleaners is that that they offset each other as in an Alkaline/Base type situation. Too much Lemi shine brings out the copper mixture in the brass. I'm not explaining that perfectly but that's kinda what's going on. I've actually tried the Frankford Arsenal brass cleaning packs with good results as well. They look like those plastic wrapped soap packets that you can use in dish washers. Oh....And I really like "Southern Shine" stainless steel pins better than what comes with the FA tumbler. Harder to keep track of but can clean EVERY part of the brass. Pins don't get stuck because they're much smaller....Hence the more difficulty keeping track of 'em.
Well thanks for watching a little of the vid. lol had you watched the whole vid you would have known in the end it wasn't tarnished brass is was scratched up brass.
@@reloading1776 it was boring sorry! I used the same shit and had the same weird shit happen minus the scratching. Window looked exactly like yours! It was a film that maybe would have scratched had I tumbled long enough. The fuck do I know? Take my generous advice that I was nice enough to offer or leave it. Journey on lol!
Great video! I just ordered my first wet tumbler. I've been using the vibratory tumbler since i started reloading a few years ago. This is a mistake in sure i would have made sooner or later.
It wouldn't have occurred to me to 'clean' my brass before cleaning my brass, so thank you for making this. It's a mistake I haven't made yet, and hopefully won't in the future.
I suggest soaking the brass in water washing fluid mix with in a sieve and getting that dirt moving once its loosened up. It should help to remove powder residue and any other crap inside like oils, specially if you are in muddy range where mud/clay can pack inside and dry there. Get it wet and flush the casings before putting in tumbler and all that crap should be left outside. Not a loader but just my thinking. Obviously dispose the contaminated water properly and know whats there.
I pretty sure you overloaded your tumbler it's happened to me when I get in a hurry. You can put the brass in a vibratory polisher in small batches with some brass polish and it will run fine.
Good for you making your mistake a point of learning. With the interwebs and TH-cam it's amazing how fast a person can advance in reloading and still make mistakes. Trust me it's a lifelong reloading/learning process. Thanks for sharing and good luck with the channel. I'm sub'n!
@@reloading1776 you're very welcome. I'll be looking forward to seeing what you get into next. I'd just tell you to keep being honest with your self reloading and realize the more you learn the more you realize you don't know!
If you’re going to make a mistake reloading, it’s much safer to do it during the cleaning process, than the loading process!! You’re gonna make mistakes, as long as you learn from them, (and you don’t blow yourself up!) then all is good!
Try running them again…. Dawn and lemie shine.. crap happens…. 1 other thing I do is I run mine for about 1 hour then change the water out and give everything a good rinse.. then fresh water and keep an eye on what the water looks like.. good luck and be safe..
Hot water, squirt of dawn, and 1/8 teaspoon of lemishine. You will never go back. I used to do 3 hours. I now do 2 max. Too much cleaner can also turn your brass pink.
If you have not yet reloaded the brass, try giving them a run through a dry cleaner like ground walnet hulls. Dry media polishes the brass. It might take 10 or 12 hours in a vibrating type unit but it should polish out the markings.
You don’t know what you don’t know. Everything I have learned has been the hard way. Let us know how they feel in the sizing die and how they seal the chamber and if they stretch more from sticking to the chamber wall.
This same thing happened to me a few months back. I re tumbled the brass with tiny steel rods and used dawn dish soap and tumbled for 5 hours and it fixed it and became all new shiny like a brand new again . But from now on I do a 15 min pre was tumble to get any rock or sand off first them retumble for 3 hours and they come out great.
Might lead to extraction issues, but I doubt it is going to have any real effects other than a dull finish. Edit to say you can probably just run them back through the tumbler, for 3 more hours, making sure you don't introduce anymore "4" grit polish and they should clean right back up for the most part.
hey. i have been reloading for 50 years. you know, not every day but a lot. i bumped it up about 10 years ago when i bought my transferable machine gun, M-4 type of bullet hose. if i can help i will try, not that i am great but damn 50 actual years. tip: i use the tumbler cleaner. there are car waxes you can put in with the DRY media to make it come out shiney. BUT there are some chemicals NOT to put in with it. it will degrade the brass. maybe im not that smart cause i dont remember what the bad ones are, alcohol or is it ammonia. i will find out. i have added some sand to media for brass that is just plain black with tarnish. i fugured i could shoot them and leave them on the ground. be very sure to scrap corrosive brass. there is a thing called bi-metal degradation. the loaded brass will crack around the neck with time. i need to go shoot a bullet.
@@reloading1776 i meant to give you another one. you probably found out by now if you are cleaning 2 calibers at once. it always happens to me that the bullet end of the 223 ends up in the bullet of the 9mm. you would know if it happens in wet media, it does in dry.
I don't think I saw it, but why aren't you using pins when you wet tumble? Also can't see, but if you decap first (Lee Universal decapping die) the pins will get your primer pockets spotless.
Brass wasnt very dirty and have been happy with how my brass always turned out without pins. But I do have a vid where I reran some of this brass and used the pins. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/VWCUyqp7wWg/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing the oversight. The brass will feed fine, with the chamber pressures they may even smooth out a bit when fired. As others have stated, another few hours with brass on brass tumbling will probably help some. Worse case scenario you stick them on a dowel and give each case a wire wheel brush. That''d be a PITA but once you get the system down it'll go quickly. Reloading mistakes, yep, been there more than I'd like to admit. Started my journey before interweb and TH-cam, casting bullets as well. I still cast all my target loads but now powder coat them, pretty easy. You'll do well, you've got the right mindset.
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Ill take that reward! I earned it!
@@reloading1776 😂 good attitude as long as we learn from our mistakes is all good
"If you want to find the most efficient way to do something, ask a lazy man" 😉
@@redrock425 AMEN! Coming from a 30 year construction background they how I made my career! I was thorough and aways had a good finished product but i added my laziness into it to find the easiest and quickest way to complete the project
@@reloading1776 Exactly, no prizes for doing it the hard way and time is money!
As a fellow reloader, I'd say I enjoy telling people about my screwups and learning experiences more than anything- that way others don't make them and can enjoy this hobby safely and as much as I do. Thanks for sharing.
Well said!
That's really cool. I don't reload, but I feel that the same concept applies to many things.
Most people try to act like they don't make mistakes, or are embarrassed about doing so.
A successful local businessman was on the radio recently. He said that he doesn't talk or care to listen about success. He focuses more on the mistakes. Mistakes teach more in life than anything else.
@@letsdothis9063 Well said!
@@letsdothis9063 What you are describing sounds like Narcissism. There is a lot of that in society unfortunately. Luckily in the reloading world- the groups on the paper don't care about grandiosity!
Definitely helped more than one person. Being humble and admitting your mistakes is rare now. People don't live a social media shiny life. People make mistakes.
LOL yes we do lol
Excellent tip, never even thought about that. Keeping the dirt/sand out before tumbling is part of my process now. Thanks for sharing.
Glad to help!!
I've always preached that "experience is the best teacher". As long as one learns from their mistakes it is a good lesson and I have had many lessons in life. Thanks for the info. If you are worried about friction causing reloading issues what about staggering ammo loads. One tarnished , one smooth etc etc.
Amen! Watch my vids V1-V2-V3 where I try different methods to try to bring the brass back to normal. V3 really surprised me
I been reloading for over 40 years. When I was competing USPSA / IDPA or just at the range picking up brass here in Florida it will always have a lot of sand or mud in it. I put it in my separator and spin it until it's as clean as it's going to get before putting it in the tumbler. If using a wet tumbler you can wash them first. Then again I am OCD, I decap, deburr flash holes, resize primer / true pockets on all my brass. That's even on all my pistol cal. Over cleaning with SS pins can cause a lot of problems when resizing as I learned that the had way when they first came out. I use the SS pins to clean then corn cob or walnut to shine them up and to help with resizing.
Great info! Thanks!
Grippable low reflective ammo. Sounds good and tactical to me.
LOL Love it! Always a silver lining!
Never thought about dirt in a wet tumbler pitting the brass but makes sense.
Glad my mistake may help you from making one in the future lol
Wouldn't worry about it... Load em up .. pop them off. If you don't want your brass to look that way.. dump the grit out first. Lesson learned 👍👍
It didnt kill me so it made me STRONGER
Thanks for the heads up. It won't hurt a thing. I had the exact same thing happen. I reloaded it, shot it all, and it was fine. I inspected my bolt head and chamber and they were ok. I'll tell you one thing that will hurt: If you decide to use one of these DIY wet tumbling recipes with the dawn soap and the Lemmi Shine don't use too much Lemmi Shine (just a tablespoon). Lemmi Shine is basically citric acid and it will pull the zinc right out of your brass and split necks are what I had. Your brass will be reddish when it happens.
I appreciate your humbleness in showing something that did not turn out in order to help others. I have had a similar on a batch I did. The good news is that I was able to salvage that batch by dry tumbling in corn cob media with some polishing solution added in. It turned out very beautiful.
I no longer use anything but water and the a quarter teaspoon of dawn and cut the time to 30 min to an hour. The pins and brass do all the work. And a pre rinse is a must as you have discovered.
Don't forget to clean your pins as well!
This may sound stupid. But I always dump the water and clean the tumbler....but I was getting good looking brass that would tarnish in a few weeks, even packed into ziploc bags.
Rinsed the pins repeatedly, ran the brass back through and dried it as per normal. Sealed in new bags. No more tarnish.
Oh so many small things I've messed up when reloading....lol
Great video though! I never thought about the sand sweepings!
that makes sense!
I have been reloading since 1972. It looks like your solution might be etching the brass. Dont leave the brass sitting in it. Rinse and dry right away. This is just a guess.
Get a brass catcher to keep the brass off the ground.
I have never tried the pins in wet solution. If you get some really gritty and dirt filled brass, you can use the washing machine to clean them. I learned this many years ago from the NRA. Take a big towel and put some brass in it say 100 or so. Put your soap on the brass. Then use a plastic tie wrap to hold the brass in fairly tight. Wash normally with other towels. You need to dry the brass when finished. I used a metal colander in the oven at 250 degrees for 30 minutes. The brass will be very clean. Any nickel brass will look like new.
In my tumbler, I use Zilla walnut Lizard bedding. I add 1 ounce of mineral spirits mixed with 2 capfuls of NU Finish car polish. Add the solution to the media only first for 20 mins or so to get the mixture into the media. The brass comes out very clean and will have a polish coat on it to protect it.
Be prepared to try different things to get how you want ammo to come out.
Thanks for the suggestion!!
I have used tumblers and vibratory case cleaners for many years but I now use only ultrasonic cleaners. Hornady One Shot Case Cleaner with a teaspoon of Lemishine. Only takes about 10 minutes then rinse and dry on a cookie sheet in the oven. 250 degrees for 30 minutes and they will be dry inside and out.
Thanks for the heads up!
I know there are a million recipes out there for wet tumble,
I've only been doing it for about a year and had mixed
results with dish soap. On a whim I tried a load with the usual
9mm case of citric acid, and about a 1/4 cup of motorcycle
Cleaner degreaser called "Bike Brite MC441G".
1-1.5hrs and it comes out looking like gold nuggets.
Finished brass is very slippery and hard to hold onto.
It's NOT slimy or tacky, It's like dry skin with baby powder slippery.
I took a pic of a tray that was drying and I thought I was seeing
a lot of internal water spots. Turns out the insides have a mirror
shine and I was seeing the reflection of the flash hole on the inside
Wall.
This is my recipe, at 29$/gal, it ain't cheap, but I'm keeping it.
And no, my precious gold nuggets don't help me hit that barn
any better, but my shitty aim is shitty with bling!
LOL Great info.
yeah I haven't found any accuracy benefits to shinny brass over dull brass lol
I just this week got all of my equipment in to start reloading, so thank you for the heads up! I pick a lot of my brass up the same way and would hate to make that mistake.
Awesome!!! Glad you can learn from my mistakes! lol Enjoy the reloading
Yes my brother . I live in Vegas, dustbowl!
@@caseykelso1 I miss Vegas very little lol
most of my family still lives in Vegas
The other issue is the juice is probably slightly acidic. I have had similar results with citric acid in the tumbler. Also if you tumble MAKE SURE YOU REMOVE NICKEL COATED BRASS FROM REGULAR BRASS... you will end up with black nickel tarnish on your regular brass. Also dont let it sit... so dont set it up and go to bed or the tiny tarnish particles seem to resettle back on the brass in a perfect tarnish like layer. If you screw it up take a cloth and try to buff a case. If it buffs out then remove then run it again. This time dumping it at the end of cycle or before. It wont take very long... maybe 30mins and everything will be fine.
As for the very dirty stuff i can only shoot indoors so you taught me something to look out for. Thanks! Experience is a great teacher as long as it is not all your own.
I am probably way too obsessive about it, but I ultrasonically clean my brass, dry it, and then tumble it in a vibratory tumbler. It always comes out super shiny.
clean primer pockets with a primer pocket cleaning tool, then tumble in rice. if you are doing any more than that you are doing too much.
You don't need to use any specialized brass cleaner. Try a squirt of Dawn dish washer detergent and a tiny scoop of Lemi Shine with pins. Process your brass, drain, rinse, and repeat as necessary on next batch. Been using this for over 25 years. Works great and cleans excellent.
Simple mistake, easy to make. Now admitting to the mistake is typically much harder, lots of respect to you for that.
Thanks!
Just put them back through the tumbler with stainless steel pins and that should bring them back to a polished state. Or use crushed walnuts in the tumbler.
Ill have to try that
Yes this. It might not end up completely smooth as it was before but after a couple reload/wash cycles it should be or pretty close.
Brass Juice will etch cases like that if you leave it sit or use too high a concentration.
I dont believe that is the case in this instance due to the fact the inside of the cases is still shiney and not effected at all
Two types of reloaders: those who have made a reloading mistake and those who will make a reloading mistake.
LOL Glad I got my mistake out of the way early!! Easy sailing from here out.
@@reloading1776 And the better mistake to make is with brass and not with powder..... :-)
Where I shoot, the spent brass lands on gravel, so I always wash my brass before running it through the tumbler. I've questioned myself a few times whether this was really necessary. Now I'm glad I do the extra wash.
Thank you for posting your mistake so the rest of us can learn without the headache.
LOL anytime!!!
I live in a desert area, so can relate to the sand/dirt topic being a problem. For this reason, plus protection for my carbide dies, I always pour my brass through a sifter into a bucket of Hot Water with Simple Green Concentrate for 10-15 minutes, while swishing around. I pour this out through a sifter again and rinse with clod eater before placing in my steel pin tumbler. We appreciate your honesty and help for all of us re-loaders out here. I'm sure as you continue to conduct more with all of your re-loading, will be very rewarding to you. Watch your chemical choices closely, for they can cause dangerous and costly results if incorrect. Personally, I like the Liquid Lemi-Shine, 1 squirt in Hot Water, with a small squirt of liquid dish wash soap, or Hornady One Shot Vibratory Case Cleaner. Mine tumble to beautiful Jewelry like clean everywhere in about 1-1 1/2 hrs. max. Rinsed in cold water for neutralization after removing from tumbler. Keep uo the good intentions. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the great comment and Info!
Great video, just starting to reload and that was a good heads up. Keep em coming
Really worthwhile video, thanks for posting 👍
Thanks!
These little tips sure helped this one person……..thanks
LOVE IT!!!
I made my own wet tumbler. Have experimented with time and cleaning solution and have landed on 30 mins with a half teaspoon of citric acid and two teaspoons of dish washing liquid in a gallon nor so of water. 3 hours sounds way, way too long. A brass catch bag with a mesh bottom is handy for shaking out range crud before processing.
Get a manual brass tumbler which consists of a cage which is full of slots with a handle to turn cage. Drop your brass in, give it a few turns.The brass tumbles around and any sand, debris, media, etc. falls out through the slots. This is good for processing used brass before putting it in your tumbler to avoid what happened here and it it works as well on freshly tumbled brass as it get rid of any tumbling media that may be inside the brass. When reloading it's best to concentrate on what you're doing and don't be distracted by any thing. You're lucky this incident only resulted in dulled brass. Had you been dealing with priming or reloading the distractions you mentioned could not only possibly cause damage to firearm or injury, but could be deadly. It's good that one can learn from mistakes, albeit reloading mistakes can have serious consequences and should be avoided.
I think you meant to say that’s a media separator. A tumbler is where the cleaning/polishing actually happens.
Never had that problem. Any brass I pick up I put through the media separator first. Not in water, just the range brass.
But, I did use Lanolin one time, and I think I must have over-lubed the brass when sizing, and then not had enough soap in the water to keep the Lanolin in solution. What happened was that my entire batch of brass turned green. Didn't know what to think of that of that. Thought I'd ruined it. But another run through the wet tumbler and the brass was shiny again. I stopped using the Lanolin after that, although it was probably just me over-lubing.
Easy fix. Just add a rock polishing mix in the next round and it will clean it up!
Good information and definitely worth sharing! Thanks
Thanks!
Your brass looks like it would be safe to reload but you may run into problems fully chambering or problems extracting. Try polishing in a dry media like corn cob or walnut hulls with a heavy dose of Flitz. There are other polishes but I like Flitz.
Lol, I’m about the same age as you and started reloading about 12 years ago, I ruined a bunch of brass in similar ways until I tuned things up with the help of my friends. I use one of colanders from our kitchen to clear out the crud before and after polishing. I want to try the steel pin method, looks like it’ll polish and clean things better. My advise is to watch how you crimp your brass after bullet seating, I boogered up a few rounds by going too tight. Oh, and never loan your dies to a drunk Marine, lol. Thankfully, a close friend has been reloading since the 60’s and has tons of gear and knowledge.
LOL great info!
Ill keep the Never loan dies to a drunk Marine lol!!
@@reloading1776 I didn’t expect that anything could be damaged but I loaned him an expander die set with a fixed de-priming pin and he tried to jam it through a Berdan primer case. Ever try to repair/replace those stems? It’s not easy, lol. I just shock my head and ask “how the hell did you manage that!?”
@@echohunter4199 sure it did it with a loud Oorah!! While chewing on a crayon lol
Great video, thanks for sharing,
I did that to my friends .270 brass. Another friend that reloads looked at the brass and took it. He ran them in soap and steel pins. It all came out shiny.
Thanks for being real brother!
Thanks for the Thanks!!
Good job keeping a positive attitude! I use the rotary tumbler also, but I use dawn dish soap with some citric acid for cases that are not too dirty; and if they are dirty I also use stainless steel media with the combo. I used to use a sonic cleaner, but the wet tumbler does a much better job. Hope all is well with you and enjoy the journey!
Thanks for the great words! Ive been enjoying every minute of it mistakes and all.
If you want to "fix " that you could try a bag of final polish from a stone tumbling kit. Should polish it back up. Try sample first..😁
I have a F.A.R.T as well as several other tumblers for multiple years. I have found one main issues and I attribute it to the brass cleaning process. Dull brass/greasy slurry accumulated on brass. Let's start with the cleaning solution. It doesn't matter what cleaning solution you use, it can only suspend so much grime in solution & leaving the brass in long after it stops tumbling allows the grime to settle out of solution back onto the brass. I now use a two stage cleaning process where I first tumble the brass for 15 min to 1 hr with 1/4 tsp of citric acid & Dawn dish washing soap, after I dump the water leaving the brass & pins in the tumbler. That gets the heavy dirt off the brass & out of the tumbler. I then refill the tumbler with water & add another 1/4 tsp citric acid and I use a 1-2 tbs car wash soap with wax. Then I tumble for 1-2 hrs more. The citric acid is only to counter hard water you don't need an acidic solution. By design soap holds grime in solution to remove it from what your washing so if your solution gets over saturated you could tumble it for a week and your not going to get clean brass. Also once the tumbling stops it allows the grime to settle back on the brass. Once you experience this you'll never want it to happen again. The solution to that mess is hot water & a degreaser like Simple Green, tumble for an hour & repeat then tumble like normal. You can use citric acid & a dash of Dawn alone but I like that the car wash soap leaves a little protection on the brass against tarnishing.
I have a few other tips: After I'm done tumbling I dump off my dirty water off the top into the sink then dump the pins & remaining water into a plastic bucket/container using the strainer and shaking up/down. I then fill the tumbler with water usually hot water and toss in a HF ceramic magnet and tumble for 5 minutes to rinse off the brass. The magnet catches most of the rough pins. I drain the water completely put the magnet back in after I've removed the pins and add several strips of car drying Chamois to the tumbler totaling 1/3 of a full chamois. I tumble for 5-10 min. This pulls most of the water left in the cases. I always tumble de-primed cases, especially bottle neck cases as they tend to trap pins & water if you don't. This is a chart from Frankford Arsenal [img]i.imgur.com/5k54jx0.jpg[/img]
LOL F.A.R.T love it!
Thanks for the great information. Defiantly will help in the future.
Do not feel bad about making mistakes when you're reloading, be careful which it seems like you are and learn from your mistakes. Investigate what remedies are available to correct those situations. I have been reloading for several years and I still I am learning to this day. My personal journey has gone from just reloading the brass cases with factory prepared bullets to casting my own lead bullets and powder coating them. I now currently copper electroplate the hard cast lead bullets. Cleaning of the brass is technically not required for reloading however it will make your firearm much dirtier and will be prone to jamming when the firearm does become dirty. You can just put your brass back in the Tumblr with some new media and wet tumbling with steel pins tends to be one of the best ways to clean & polish your brass. I'll strongly recommend you check out some of the other TH-cam creators such as Elvis reloading fortune cookie 45 and Johnnies reloading bench these individuals have helped me very much in my reloading journey.
Thanks for the info. I have watch some of Fortune cookie 45's vids. Will check out the others.
Never really had that problem before I always manually deprime and inspect before putting in Tumbler, then it goes into an ultrasonic cleaner. Always checking primer pockets for any debris then it goes into the oven to completely dry out before starting the process.
I just added a LEE APP to my bench and going to deprime before cleaning.
Helping others learn from a simple mistake is how we help each other. I actually wash my brass with Dawn dishwashing detergent before I put in the tumbler as it removes dirt and oily contaminants. You have to shake the water out of the cases and let them dry but the end product is worth it.
Try the new Dawn power wash....Works way better then regular thick Dawn while using less. Rinse with a hose dry then decap and size then tumble with Dawn, stainless pins and a little Lemi shine, 2 to 3 hours and brand new looking brass time.
I sort all used brass in bulk. When it gets to be enough, I start the process. First is to wash in a large plastic tub. Hot water and dish soap by hand. Drain and rinse until clean. Repeat as many times as needed. I ruined a carbide 223 die with dirt once, so I really take that step seriously.
I have had the same thing happen to me. Live and learn. I put my brass back in the tumbler and tumbled them for a hr with a couple drops of Dawn dish soap and a little lemon juice and they came out looking like new again. Your exactly right it's because of all the extra dirt.
I used to reload in a building away from my home/garage. I once forgot about brass being tumbled and caught it 10 days later. Vibrotory so the only issue was wasted electricity.
lol
I appreciate you sharing your experience.
your appreciation is appreciated
Nothing bad about this video it was just shining a light on how easy it is to overlook something that is so obvious thanks for knocking me in the head. Hopefully I won't be idiot and make the same mistake! Because now I know better!
Everyone can learn from my idiocy lol
Everybody has a different way of polishing brass
Thanks for sharing, one mistake maybe I can avoid now.
Glad to help
Helped me greatly. Thanks for sharing the problem. Reinforces the rinse first habit, that i often skip. Now I know why sometimes dull !!!
Glad it helped!
I've done the same darn thing in a Vibratory Tumblr with corn cob. But did not get the grit out from a limestone based shooting range. It looks kind of cool! Brushed Brass finish!
The worst part about it, It's hard on your Resizing die.😬
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.
Thanks!
I use my ancient VibraTek, water with some Dawn, and some Lemmi shine. I don`t care about polish, just clean. Works very well.
Been reloading since 1978. I thought it was common knowledge to rinse your brass before cleaning. Try rerunning them with stainless steel beads. And I use 1/4 oz of dawn dish soap. It breaks down the powder residue.
Right on
Thanks for the info it was a lesson learned for sure, but we all learn those lessons sometimes keep up the good work Hopefully this will prevent some of us from making that mistake. Thank you.👍👍
Maybe try re-tumbling that batch (or half the batch) with really fine polishing media people use for rock tumbling. That should smooth out the cases so they don't hang up in the chambers.
Check out my follow up vids on this brass. Making Right what went WRONG V1 V2 V3
Just Dawn, 9mm case of Lemi shine, and a tablespoon of blue dawn. Works great. I'll use Stainless pins for the initial cleaning, sometimes as well.
I will be doing a vid using that combo on this brass to see if it helps it any, Just di a vid using the pins and Frankford Arsenal's cleaning solution. Check it out here. th-cam.com/video/VWCUyqp7wWg/w-d-xo.html
@Reloading Journey will do. I've never tried their cleaning solution.
I wash my brass initially with pins, dawn, lemi shine for around 2-3 hours as well. Comes out looking like gold. When it comes time to wash off sizing lube and annealing carbon, dawn, and lemi shine. Oh, the hottest water your tap will produce as well.
This it's exactly what I do as well. I have cleaned in the area of 40k rounds like this. Primer pockets look like brand new. I go 3-3.5 hours.
Thanks for sharing !
My pleasure!
Lol! I did the same thing. I stick to the Lemi Shine/Dawn dish soap combo. I was able to get that residue off by running pins and dawn soap for 30 min or so. I then tumbled the film off of the brass for 2 hrs.
If you start using the Lemi Shine/Dawn dish soap combo, be very strict about the Lemi shine measurement. I threw it in thinking more was probably better. It turns your brass turns to an ugly dehydrated pee yellow when you put in too much. I keep a 1/4 teaspoon measuring spoon in the Lemi Shine bottle and use no more than that per batch. I don't measure as strictly with the dawn soap. Obviously too much isn't good but I've put in what I would think is a lot, but it was fine. I guess the science behind those two cleaners is that that they offset each other as in an Alkaline/Base type situation. Too much Lemi shine brings out the copper mixture in the brass. I'm not explaining that perfectly but that's kinda what's going on.
I've actually tried the Frankford Arsenal brass cleaning packs with good results as well. They look like those plastic wrapped soap packets that you can use in dish washers.
Oh....And I really like "Southern Shine" stainless steel pins better than what comes with the FA tumbler. Harder to keep track of but can clean EVERY part of the brass. Pins don't get stuck because they're much smaller....Hence the more difficulty keeping track of 'em.
Well thanks for watching a little of the vid. lol had you watched the whole vid you would have known in the end it wasn't tarnished brass is was scratched up brass.
@@reloading1776 Either way, the shit you used sucks..
The stuff I used had nothing to do with what happened it was 100% user error. Again watch the whole video and you will understand more
@@reloading1776 it was boring sorry! I used the same shit and had the same weird shit happen minus the scratching. Window looked exactly like yours! It was a film that maybe would have scratched had I tumbled long enough. The fuck do I know? Take my generous advice that I was nice enough to offer or leave it. Journey on lol!
@@gscotty311 Ill leave it this time. thanks tho
Great video! I just ordered my first wet tumbler. I've been using the vibratory tumbler since i started reloading a few years ago. This is a mistake in sure i would have made sooner or later.
LOl glad to help you avoid it
your going to love wet tumbling over dry!
I just use a the juice of a lemon or a orange with dish washing liquid in my ultrasonic cleaner. I found using citric acid is the key to clean brass.
It wouldn't have occurred to me to 'clean' my brass before cleaning my brass, so thank you for making this. It's a mistake I haven't made yet, and hopefully won't in the future.
Glad you are able to learn from my mistakes lol
@@reloading1776 Yep, really appreciate you being willing to let others learn from your mistake.
I suggest soaking the brass in water washing fluid mix with in a sieve and getting that dirt moving once its loosened up. It should help to remove powder residue and any other crap inside like oils, specially if you are in muddy range where mud/clay can pack inside and dry there. Get it wet and flush the casings before putting in tumbler and all that crap should be left outside. Not a loader but just my thinking. Obviously dispose the contaminated water properly and know whats there.
Safe reloading friend! New subscriber here!
Thanks for the sub!
Thank you for sharing
Run them in a vibratory tumbler with walnut shells or corn cob media.
Check out this video I do just that. th-cam.com/video/Svdc-hShZTQ/w-d-xo.html
Just make certain there is no grit in the flash hole.
I pretty sure you overloaded your tumbler it's happened to me when I get in a hurry. You can put the brass in a vibratory polisher in small batches with some brass polish and it will run fine.
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Good for you making your mistake a point of learning. With the interwebs and TH-cam it's amazing how fast a person can advance in reloading and still make mistakes. Trust me it's a lifelong reloading/learning process. Thanks for sharing and good luck with the channel. I'm sub'n!
Thanks for the good words!!! and subscribing!!
@@reloading1776 you're very welcome. I'll be looking forward to seeing what you get into next. I'd just tell you to keep being honest with your self reloading and realize the more you learn the more you realize you don't know!
@@emoryzakin2576 AMEN!!!!
Thank you for sharing.
Polish/Process the brass one more time.
Everything will be fine.
Have Fun.
Be Safe .
Right on
I would load light and run it! Should bounce back after running through warm system!
I dry tumble, always do walnut then corn cob cuz I like shiny.
Put it into a media tumbler for a hour or so will help smooth it out
I would just tumble it again. It may polish it up.
If you’re going to make a mistake reloading, it’s much safer to do it during the cleaning process, than the loading process!! You’re gonna make mistakes, as long as you learn from them, (and you don’t blow yourself up!) then all is good!
Try running them again…. Dawn and lemie shine.. crap happens….
1 other thing I do is I run mine for about 1 hour then change the water out and give everything a good rinse.. then fresh water and keep an eye on what the water looks like.. good luck and be safe..
This was totally me haha figuring out the right amount of glass polish for me took alot of sad cases lifes.
LOL
As a 16 yo Vietnamese I can confirm that this brass cleaning operation has gone wrong
LOL
Amazing comment.... lol very different from all these other people . Tell your older sister I'll be her husband
Sh!t happens. At least it's not a catastrophic explosion and you still have both eyes and 10 fingers.
LOL!!! AMEN!!!!
Hot water, squirt of dawn, and 1/8 teaspoon of lemishine. You will never go back.
I used to do 3 hours. I now do 2 max. Too much cleaner can also turn your brass pink.
Watch my new Vid V3 Making Right what went wrong. I did just that was amazed with the out come
If you have not yet reloaded the brass, try giving them a run through a dry cleaner like ground walnet hulls. Dry media polishes the brass. It might take 10 or 12 hours in a vibrating type unit but it should polish out the markings.
Hey
check out my follow up vids with this Brass V1. V2 V3.
working the last video on this now V4
You don’t know what you don’t know. Everything I have learned has been the hard way. Let us know how they feel in the sizing die and how they seal the chamber and if they stretch more from sticking to the chamber wall.
All good points ill do a follow up vid when I try reloading some of them for sure
I always do a 10 minute wash before I deprime. Then I do a final wash maybe 30 minutes. And then dry them . At that point they are ready to load.
Thanks for the idea!!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Nothing I’ve tried beats a squirt of Dawn and teaspoon of lemishine. That cleaning solution probably high amount of citric acid in it
Going to give that a try here real soon! That seems to be one of the most popular solutions I seen
This same thing happened to me a few months back. I re tumbled the brass with tiny steel rods and used dawn dish soap and tumbled for 5 hours and it fixed it and became all new shiny like a brand new again . But from now on I do a 15 min pre was tumble to get any rock or sand off first them retumble for 3 hours and they come out great.
Will give that a try!
I wet tumble for 1hr 15min....comes out as clean as 3 hrs.
If you run them through a tumbler with walnut, they will shine right up.
Might lead to extraction issues, but I doubt it is going to have any real effects other than a dull finish.
Edit to say you can probably just run them back through the tumbler, for 3 more hours, making sure you don't introduce anymore "4" grit polish and they should clean right back up for the most part.
Yeah I can’t sleep at night unless a hand polish the brass with polishing compound and a toothbrush
No offense but thats CRAZY!! LOL Im no where near the dedicated to clean brass
hey. i have been reloading for 50 years. you know, not every day but a lot. i bumped it up about 10 years ago when i bought my transferable machine gun, M-4 type of bullet hose.
if i can help i will try, not that i am great but damn 50 actual years.
tip: i use the tumbler cleaner. there are car waxes you can put in with the DRY media to make it come out shiney. BUT there are some chemicals NOT to put in with it. it will degrade the brass. maybe im not that smart cause i dont remember what the bad ones are, alcohol or is it ammonia. i will find out.
i have added some sand to media for brass that is just plain black with tarnish. i fugured i could shoot them and leave them on the ground.
be very sure to scrap corrosive brass. there is a thing called bi-metal degradation. the loaded brass will crack around the neck with time.
i need to go shoot a bullet.
Thanks for the Tips!!!
@@reloading1776 i meant to give you another one. you probably found out by now if you are cleaning 2 calibers at once. it always happens to me that the bullet end of the 223 ends up in the bullet of the 9mm. you would know if it happens in wet media, it does in dry.
Run em through again. At least they may shine up again for you!
Thanks. watch the follow up vids
Wow hopefully it don’t scratch your dies I would use case lube just to be on the safe side thanks for sharing
I really dont think that should be an issue cause brass is such a soft metal. The sizing die I use is carbide and alot harder than brass,
I don't think I saw it, but why aren't you using pins when you wet tumble? Also can't see, but if you decap first (Lee Universal decapping die) the pins will get your primer pockets spotless.
Brass wasnt very dirty and have been happy with how my brass always turned out without pins.
But I do have a vid where I reran some of this brass and used the pins. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/VWCUyqp7wWg/w-d-xo.html
I would think some dry tumble with corn will clean that right up as good as new
Great video…
Thanks
Thanks for sharing the oversight. The brass will feed fine, with the chamber pressures they may even smooth out a bit when fired. As others have stated, another few hours with brass on brass tumbling will probably help some. Worse case scenario you stick them on a dowel and give each case a wire wheel brush. That''d be a PITA but once you get the system down it'll go quickly. Reloading mistakes, yep, been there more than I'd like to admit. Started my journey before interweb and TH-cam, casting bullets as well. I still cast all my target loads but now powder coat them, pretty easy. You'll do well, you've got the right mindset.
Thanks for the kind words!