Evolution of COPS LOGIC in MAFIA games (2002-2020)

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  • I present you the Evolution of COPS (police) LOGIC in MAFIA games (2002-2020). The cops logic has had an interesting evolution from Mafia (2002) to Mafia: Definitive Edition (2020). Let's see how they evolved across the games!
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    ash - Some police lines transcription
    0:00 Introduction
    0:10 1 star: Mafia
    0:49 1 star: Mafia II
    2:56 1 star: Mafia III
    3:37 1 star: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    4:27 2 stars: Mafia
    5:03 2 stars: Mafia II
    5:56 2 stars: Mafia III
    6:25 2 stars: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    6:53 3 stars: Mafia
    7:51 3 stars: Mafia II
    8:40 3 stars: Mafia III
    9:22 3 stars: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    10:14 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia
    11:34 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia II
    12:32 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia III
    13:52 Vehicle pursuit: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    14:52 Foot pursuit: Mafia
    15:42 Foot pursuit: Mafia II
    16:25 Foot pursuit: Mafia III
    16:58 Foot pursuit: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    17:56 Police roadblock: Mafia
    18:18 Police roadblock: Mafia II
    18:53 Police roadblock: Mafia III
    19:27 Police roadblock: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    20:04 Combat: Mafia
    21:30 Combat: Mafia II
    22:09 Combat: Mafia III
    23:31 Combat: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    25:02 NPC combat: Mafia
    25:44 NPC combat: Mafia II
    27:25 NPC combat: Mafia III
    28:50 NPC combat: Mafia: Definitive Edition
    29:12 Miscellaneous
    35:00 Conclusion
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ความคิดเห็น • 175

  • @nushnume
    @nushnume ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Mafia 3 developers be like: eh,we can't bother with the police,we'll just say they're racist af and that's it😂

    • @chickenchan9295
      @chickenchan9295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But it makes sence by the time period the game takes place

    • @redcobra7707
      @redcobra7707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It is realistic tho, atleast back then

    • @goap690
      @goap690 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      they just didnt bring any AI. evolution is not a proper word.
      Thats why npc vs npc without any involved of player deal NO any damage to each others. Why late 00s games on consoles become press x movies. worse than Call of Duty. More like... a bitt earlier game... Starship Troopers... on PC... khm. So actually PC game start it all.
      Wh40k Space Marine use better system. NPC didnt do anything if you do abandon fight scene to lurk some corners for goodies. NPC wont kill NPC. Allies didnt do many damage when you do. But still they did some damage in combat when you stay and watch.
      And no. Mafia 3 use another system. In space Marine you can take cover and NPC will kill each others. In mafia 3 actually they didnt do damage. Relic dev chose stick it to your POV camera. They chose to hide scripts.
      All nowadays shooter or actions that called platformers - Sony games first of - NPC do nothing. And even your shots do nothing. Its not calculate directly. It is not Call of Duty 1-2 or Starship Troopers. If you pay attention you will notice that.
      Mafia 3 they said. Nah. Devs want make GTA SA plot game, bad plot game (unlike GTASA). Not Mafia. Rockstar did great game. 2ks noname studio didnt want make good game. Mafia 1+2 been even more tech and AI detailed than GTA. Mafia 3 no more Mafia - plot and gameplay.
      And someone call it realistic... I already saw serious comments in Discord about realism in Mafia 3. Even GTA5 cops are better developed.

    • @goap690
      @goap690 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh and what they did with Mafia 1 in DE... ppl who cant make AL and gameplay screw plot too, again. Already exist plot. Realism and logic are raritet this days.

  • @folegionnaire4404
    @folegionnaire4404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    14:08 they even turn their light on in the tunnel amazing

  • @DurangoCzechoslovakia
    @DurangoCzechoslovakia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    25:50 Hitler,is that you?

  • @bradleypelkey4597
    @bradleypelkey4597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    15:24 the crickets outside my window when I'm tryin to sleep

  • @MichaelJ44
    @MichaelJ44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    You’re videos are great. No intro, straight to the point, no loud music, no excessive gameplay. Just a detailed video about what your title is about. They don’t make em like this anymore

    • @X11H
      @X11H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's the point, they never made them like this before. This man is the best.

    • @TobbeStorm
      @TobbeStorm ปีที่แล้ว

      Nop you don't get corned beef like that anymore. Whatever happened to that deli?

  • @youssefnr1310
    @youssefnr1310 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's actually a really cool detail about vehicle pursuits in the original Mafia, the cops will actually try to get their front bumper stuck to your rear bumper, and when they succeed, they fully step on the brakes to stop, forcing your vehicle to stop as well.

  • @Ealdorman_of_Mercia
    @Ealdorman_of_Mercia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    27:09 ok this is the most realistic cop behaviour I have ever seen.

  • @mckensyq
    @mckensyq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Mafia 3 : black man simulation

  • @Dewhursm
    @Dewhursm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    24:12 that sound like heavy voice lol

  • @not_noice
    @not_noice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mafia 3 cops logic : *(Literally like GTA 5)*
    Mafia 1 (original and remake) cops logic : *(Also literally like GTA 4 but better)*

    • @user-lm6qm1pi1u
      @user-lm6qm1pi1u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mafia 3 cops are more like GTA Online cops, the latter never arrest anyone as well.

    • @erwinrommy1940
      @erwinrommy1940 ปีที่แล้ว

      You guys wrong
      Mafia 3 set in 60s
      Which mean
      The Year american Still racist
      Police would Rather Kill Any Bl*ck people on that year

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Mafia 1's police system was the hardest to escape, like after they'd call all stations and the whole department starting coming after you you were basically fucked, unless you had a really good car they'd be faster than you, they'd have shotguns and tommy guns instead of pistols and they'd have road blocks everywhere and since the cars are heavy as fuck in this game it was hard breaking through it
    they'd literally come up to you while chasing you and shoot you with a shot gun in the face

    • @nicholasnguyen5181
      @nicholasnguyen5181 ปีที่แล้ว

      The definitive edition of mafia 1 was brutal… . Literally got swarmed with cops because I wasn’t surrendering

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nicholasnguyen5181 the original Mafia 1 is even more brutal
      in DE cars are much faster, handle better and accelerate faster, so you can escape them, also I'm not sure if they shoot with Shotguns and Tommyguns in DE, I don't remember.

    • @nicholasnguyen5181
      @nicholasnguyen5181 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ar1AnX1x I remember that they had bolt action rifles too… . They really hit hard

    • @i_love_games110
      @i_love_games110 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in mafia de it gets to that level at wanted 4 and even worse at wanted 5, and since ramming them damn near fucking kills you every time it's not very advised

  • @AndresMartinez-bn2qj
    @AndresMartinez-bn2qj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    27:16 Damn!

    • @TobbeStorm
      @TobbeStorm ปีที่แล้ว

      That's some cold shit

  • @juninhojr2177
    @juninhojr2177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    another impeccable job your videos are fantastic and you bring the smallest details to each explanation and impressive how much you dedicate yourself to explaining these systems a video that i would recommend you to make would be the gta sa wanted system.

  • @Saerkal
    @Saerkal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    You should do Watch Dogs Legion next for a police analysis.
    Or Just Cause, Bully, or Sleeping Dogs

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch Dogs' police seems to be as bad if not even worse than Mafia 3.

    • @Saerkal
      @Saerkal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@susangoaway they skimped on a lot, lol. Great game but not awesome.

    • @susangoaway
      @susangoaway 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Saerkal I wouldn't call it great.

    • @thegoat6656
      @thegoat6656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@susangoaway I completely disagree its on par with GTA 5

    • @dacody2342
      @dacody2342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thegoat6656 gta v police is bad too lol the chances of them arresting you are slim and if you stand near them too long they point guns at you :/

  • @crzymktrdrebel
    @crzymktrdrebel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for making great videos.

  • @Arkiasis
    @Arkiasis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I really wanna see you do a video on Cyberpunk's police. I swear, it's the worst mechanics I've ever seen ever.
    There are NO police chases. They SPAWN behind you instantly and keep spawning until you leave the area. Once you're like 50m away from the area you lose them.
    It's bad... very very bad.

    • @bruhman-gc3ph
      @bruhman-gc3ph 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      once you go in stores they get stage 5 dementia they use excessive force everytime,no police helicopters and extremely glitched out

  • @iliesahmed6730
    @iliesahmed6730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    best video on mafia games !

  • @N1ghtwalk3r
    @N1ghtwalk3r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    25:55 That dude probably got rejected from art school fr

  • @francocano6728
    @francocano6728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    26:56 Capt. Price

  • @RaccoonCityPoliceDept
    @RaccoonCityPoliceDept 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    For one star in Mafia: Definitive Edition I've had cops park behind me.

  • @felixc.3444
    @felixc.3444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work friend

  • @florynMbolielegends
    @florynMbolielegends 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is how GTA needs to be 4:54 & 0:46

  • @juanwhick1691
    @juanwhick1691 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I gotta say I like how far we have come with vehicles in games. From barely any sound. To adding start sounds and running sound. And even the cooldown tick lol. The little things are what amaze me the most.

  • @stepsis8437
    @stepsis8437 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mafia 2 needs a remake like Mafia 1 got ❤️
    Even though the game is already perfect I'm talking about graphics

  • @ubilambda
    @ubilambda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    16:11 No more donuts for you! Great work as always!

  • @nicholasnguyen5181
    @nicholasnguyen5181 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just love that even the npcs can bribe cops to not arrest them XD

  • @cowerdnerddespacito9518
    @cowerdnerddespacito9518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mafia 1 probably has the best pit maneuvers ever

  • @maxicanweed7989
    @maxicanweed7989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    19:42 how you got this car?!!!

    • @brothermyboy8226
      @brothermyboy8226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have to download mafia 3 first

  • @johnsondemon6073
    @johnsondemon6073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mafia 3:If He's Black He better be Dead.

  • @Noxiousferret47
    @Noxiousferret47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should try and make an analysis for watchdogs legion

  • @hatersgonnahate2505
    @hatersgonnahate2505 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mafia 1: Realistic
    Mafia 2: Realistic
    Mafia 3: G U N
    Mafia: DE: Realistic

  • @russianlobster7754
    @russianlobster7754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    bro the response time thing in mafia 3 is so messed up🤣🤣

    • @Inugami0622
      @Inugami0622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's actually quite cool tho, it describes perfectly about the society in current gens. Racism all over the place

    • @someperson9242
      @someperson9242 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Inugami0622 Yeah, black ppl in the 50s and 60s often faced discrimination.

    • @TemmieContingenC
      @TemmieContingenC ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can’t say I agree with how dumbed down it is in some parts. Investigations are great and way better than 1 & 2, but I miss tickets and an actual, robust progression of UOF rather than shooting all your problems.

  • @shahxad6533
    @shahxad6533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legendary series for wise men

  • @RichieLarpa
    @RichieLarpa ปีที่แล้ว +6

    12:43 Have anyone noticed the serious downgrade in case of mirror view in Mafia 3? Reflections and shadows are turned off in order to avoid lags and it looks like a poor game from 2004!

  • @Branbran1993
    @Branbran1993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They really dropped the ball on Mafia 3 altogether. It was the only Mafia game I didn’t bother to finish.

  • @bulgarianreaper6587
    @bulgarianreaper6587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if you'll do other games, not just mafia and driver.

  • @cgseicc
    @cgseicc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, i am looking similar videos yo watch mafia 1 city

  • @airpatrol21
    @airpatrol21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you consider doing a fire/EMS logic in games ?

  • @exoticcrafter4576
    @exoticcrafter4576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Next is sleeping dogs wanted system analysis

  • @cartercolson7975
    @cartercolson7975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U should do GTA5 police analysis

  • @redcobra7707
    @redcobra7707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:39 A sentence so simple yet many people still fail to understand it

  • @Pplaye
    @Pplaye 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mafia: Innovation.
    Mafia II: Improving innovation.
    Mafia 3: GTA clone.

  • @Arielpascuale3
    @Arielpascuale3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think the best police in this games is... MAFIA DEFINITIVE EDITION!!!

    • @berat0932
      @berat0932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I disagree mafia 2 Was a bit better

    • @toniogamingproductions6223
      @toniogamingproductions6223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wanted dead or alive way better

    • @JohnnyGuitar50
      @JohnnyGuitar50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berat0932 please tell me your joking.

    • @dauphongii
      @dauphongii ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnnyGuitar50 i agree with him, and hes most certainly not joking.

  • @nassirhussain9962
    @nassirhussain9962 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @StealthGamerWolf
    @StealthGamerWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    killer. Can you do Watch Dogs Legion police AI analysis?

    • @Thekillergreece
      @Thekillergreece  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most likely after its release.

    • @StealthGamerWolf
      @StealthGamerWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thekillergreece Mind if you sub to my channel? Btw, I saved you by that trash talker having a huge paragraph of a unappreciated speech down there. I have a trash talker aswell and I get pissed off because my content is hoping and creative. Keep up the analysising vids. It learns the value of how the AI is in games.

    • @DoctorDeath147
      @DoctorDeath147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StealthGamerWolf have my free sub

  • @PatriotGamerBoy
    @PatriotGamerBoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my highschool right here

  • @yourlocalFrostingfan
    @yourlocalFrostingfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hoped in mafia 4 and 5
    that it show you in prison after you get arrested
    cus in mafia 1 & 2 it doesn't show it
    so i hoped hangar 13 make new mechanic for 4th and 5th in the future tho

  • @volkswagenk7017
    @volkswagenk7017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mafia III cops at 1 star behave exactly like Driver Parallel Lines and 76 cops, they don't even pull over you but ram your car like the psycho cops from GTA 5

    • @Branbran1993
      @Branbran1993 ปีที่แล้ว

      Parallel Lines was a damn good game in my opinion, mostly because it was fun. However, the police mechanics were absolutely garbage.

  • @majorcaleb4889
    @majorcaleb4889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The crazy thing is the PIT wasn’t invented until the 1970s

  • @starryberet4025
    @starryberet4025 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mafia 3 cops be like " he's got a gun!!"

  • @vrtillinfinity
    @vrtillinfinity ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well for the time the game is set in and the color of Lincoln’s skin I’d say the cops reacted normal 💀

  • @kebabowmeow7289
    @kebabowmeow7289 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Push a little bit police officer in Mafia 3
    - Let’s make a martial law

  • @somerandomguy4788
    @somerandomguy4788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder when the gta 4 expansion police ai will be reviewed because i think on both or just one of them. The police Ai is just completely alike to the gta 5 one.

  • @MediaGuy-2005
    @MediaGuy-2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mafia 3 cops are nuts and have absolutely no chill at all!

    • @AlternativeLoffen
      @AlternativeLoffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lincoln is black.maybe that's the reason why and the game is set in the 60s

  • @thestingingray114
    @thestingingray114 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The police in Mafia 1 love to blow their whistles 😂

  • @mansourbellahel-hajj5378
    @mansourbellahel-hajj5378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Mafia 3 even if nobody would agree with me on the cops but really for the most part it was actually real and the police back then in the 60s and before were racists against African American people so maybe the cops details maybe was rushed but actually at the same time it was spot on because in reality that's how the black people were treated by local authorities.

  • @kenesufernandez1281
    @kenesufernandez1281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤️♥️

  • @musashiblade1512
    @musashiblade1512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mafia 1 and 2 has some sort of due process, then the first game you play as a black man, they just shoot you dead. Hmmm. Message?

  • @makingarecord2179
    @makingarecord2179 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    27:16 Cyberpunk 2077

  • @loganaugustine67
    @loganaugustine67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a gta v police behavior analysis video please?

  • @cowerdnerddespacito9518
    @cowerdnerddespacito9518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can tell you played mafia 2 definitive edition because of the shaky ness of the steam coming from the sidewalk vents

  • @poppytoad911
    @poppytoad911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    27:13 He can't think about it if he doesn't have a brain! 💡

  • @MegaRayan2011
    @MegaRayan2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch dogs legion police behaviour analysis

  • @janooka9474
    @janooka9474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess Im in the VIP list ;3

  • @bearded4276
    @bearded4276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    watchdogs legion metropolitan police and albion

    • @thegamingvillager2392
      @thegamingvillager2392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just Albion as those are main police force. Regular police still there but they play the role as guards in some restricted areas

    • @lewis571
      @lewis571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oi do you have a licence for that phone!

  • @austinsupreme750
    @austinsupreme750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    watch dogs legion police?

  • @user-id47802
    @user-id47802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why i get arrested if i assault a civilian in mafia 2 definitive edition? Bruh

  • @kevnrz01
    @kevnrz01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only pushing cops m3 is your last day

  • @warghost6564
    @warghost6564 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:50

  • @thehunchbackmechanic
    @thehunchbackmechanic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 STAR kalm
    5 stars PANIK

  • @NotCharAznable
    @NotCharAznable ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luckily Mafia 3 is decently moddable. Makes the AI leagues better.

  • @JerryWoo96
    @JerryWoo96 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happens when u exit the car and let the car roll into the police? who they gonna charge a driverless car?

    • @AlternativeLoffen
      @AlternativeLoffen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't exit the car while in high speed in 1

  • @nassirhussain9962
    @nassirhussain9962 ปีที่แล้ว

    l'm Nasser

  • @Scoil_Ming_gan_trocaire
    @Scoil_Ming_gan_trocaire ปีที่แล้ว

    30:58

  • @flashstudiosguy
    @flashstudiosguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's scary how political Mafia 3's cops are;
    Attack in Rich White Neighbourhood:"HOLD ON,WE'RE ON THE WAY!"
    Attack in Poor Black Neighbourhood:"Urgh,do I have to...? I just got comfy.."

  • @vexatha8701
    @vexatha8701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Police behaviour watch dogs legion???

  • @androxus3073
    @androxus3073 ปีที่แล้ว

    Conclusion, every Mafia game is a bad game, not in their stories but yes in their game logics

  • @KeloTheWolfy
    @KeloTheWolfy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mafia III: *Racist simulator*

  • @jayvyawahare4866
    @jayvyawahare4866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I Think police start shooting right away bcauze the protagonist is man of colour in magia 3

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don't, I just think it's lazy devs making the police more like predictable police in other games cus it's less effort. Hangar 13 only changed that for Mafia DE to reflect the original game. Mafia 3 cops are just typical game cops.

  • @user-hx9lh2we5i
    @user-hx9lh2we5i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mafia3 police is racist unfortnatlly

  • @foxyplaygamesbezlitosnysnajper
    @foxyplaygamesbezlitosnysnajper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact: Mafia III is the only game who had SWAT 😂

  • @doonishsan
    @doonishsan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In Mafia 3 police would keep shooting you since they are racist. Not sure if this is accurate in that year but it is sure is accurate in 2020.

    • @doonishsan
      @doonishsan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Herr Goober haha very funny

  • @Inugami0622
    @Inugami0622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In Mafia 3, police will only shoot you.
    The sad truth of today's society