Bullshit having teams getting through as 3rd by beeing compared with teams who had complety different opponents and constellations within the group. Group A has a clear disadavantage compared to Group L. Just unfair. Why am I the only one seeing that. ?
I'm old enough to remember World Cup '94. The 12 teams of 4 feels like a reversion to the 6 groups of 4 of those days and the look at the third place tables wondering who might qualify as best 3rd placed. I remembered loving the expansion to 32 teams. The final group match drama is something that won't be as well replicated in the 48 team format unless the World Cup gets expanded again to 64. The moving of some of the drama to the third place table is going to take away some of that final group matches excitement. That said, I think the 12 groups of four is a much better format than 16 groups of three and I hope that is the final decided format in the 48 team edition.
I hope for the first round of knockouts they do pot draws like the Champion's League. Like the first pot is the top 8 and they draw against a pot of the 8 third place teams. Then 9-12 group winners draw against 21-24 lower ranked 2nd place teams and 13-20 second place teams draw against each other within the same pot. So each team that qualifies for the round of 32 will be ranked 1-32 based on points, goal difference, goals scored, goals conceded, fair play, and then finally FIFA rankings if necessary. That way there is incentive to perform well in the group stage and promote inter-group competition. So teams will not just be competing within their group, but also fight for ranking with teams in other groups. And they should be distributed evenly on both sides of the knockout table based on the performance in the tournament so you dont't get 6 top 8 teams on one side of the table and only 2 top 8 teams on the other side.
Why wouldn't final group match reolicate in 48 team format . I mean i am very confused here byt they go with 12 group with 4 ream wouldn't it be same like 2022 ? Same thrill ?
12 groups of 4. Take top two teams from each group for a knockout round of 24 teams, whereas 8 teams with the best points get a one game bye while the remaining 16 play each other, and the winners play the previously idle 8 teams. That way to qualify for the knockout round, a team is only compared to its own group. The teams getting the byes would be compared to other groups, but hey, it ain't gonna be perfect.
If they are gonna rename the stadium for the games they should name it "New Jersey New York" stadium. New Jersy is it's own state and the stadium is in N.J.!!!
hey I always will remember Austria and Germany getting the score that got them both through at the expense of Algeria and Chile in Spain '82... and seeing fans waving money implying a fix ... and seeing that after about eleven minutes neither team really seemed to be trying to score another goal
@@sepulvjl Germany and Austria knew exactly what result was needed to ensure them both to advance. Germany scored an early 1-0 against Austria. Afterwards both teams just Stopped playing, just passed the Ball around.
My format suggestion: Keep the 12 groups of 4, and the 8 best 3rd-place teams. However, have the third place teams decided based on how close they are to 2nd place in their respective group. For example, say that team 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 are all in different groups. Say that all these teams placed third in their group. teams 1-8 are 2 points away from 2nd place, but teams 9-12 are 4 points away from 2nd place. That means teams 1-8 qualify for the knockout stage. Tiebreakers (such as goal difference) work the same way as regular group stage tiebreakers, but the value is determined by the goal difference compared to second place. For example, say that 2 teams (team A and B) are in third place of different groups. team 1 is second place in team A's group, and team 2 is second place in team B's group. Here is a visualization: Group X 1. Random Team 2. Team 1 (5 points) (Goal Difference: +2) 3. Team A (3 points) (Goal Difference: 0) 4. Random Team Group Y 1. Random Team 2. Team 2 (3 points) (Goal Difference: +1) 3. Team B (1 point) (Goal Difference: 0) 4. Random Team Even though teams A and B have the same goal difference, team B has a closer goal difference to 2nd place of their group. Therefore, team B would advance. After the group stage, it would go into the round of 32 knockout stage.
I like 12 groups of 4. On June 25, 1982 in Spain, Germany and Austria stroked each other the entire 2nd half of their final group match after Germany went up 1-0 in the opening half, putting both teams through to the elimination round, screwing over Algeria. It was a shameful World Cup moment. Since then, Game 3 group games have been played simultaneously.
12 groups of four all day long. I means no team is mathematically out after two games. which means theres plenty to play for even if you lose your first two games. I remember this format from the 86, 90 and 94 world cups and missed it when they moved to the 32 game format.
With groups of 3, you need to add another knock out round. Group winners advance directly to the round of 32, while 2nd place teams play 3rd place from another group for the other 16 spots. Advantages: 1) Gives real stakes to winning your group (get a rest week instead of an elimination game) so final round match fixing becomes less likely 2) every team still gets 3 games minimum 3) every team is on the field when they are eliminated. You have to lose to get knocked out. 4) Group winners play the same number of games that they did in 2022, just replacing one group game with a knockout game. 5) Unlike the new format, there's no semi meaningless cross group comparisons that are largely decided by running up the score on bad teams
@@huykim4663 because most people are terrible at figuring out tournament formats? I've been organizing tournament structures for a national sporting organization (USA Ultimate) for the last 22 years so I have a lot of experience with tournaments of roughly this length.
Because the knockout is against another group you still have an incentive to get to 2nd place and you have an earlier comparison with another group. But goals scored in a 2nd vs. 3rd place should not fall into the statistics or else the golden boot, might be easier to win if you are not first place! On the other hand, it's also more likely to get a match ban because of the extra cards you receive... That would mean that it is easier than ever to get into the knockouts, it means a total of 3 matches for a group and an extra Group-knockout-match. This would mean 16 groups x 3 Matches + 16 Group-Knockout-matches = 64 Matches compared to the 72 matches if there are 6 matches in 12 groups. And would it bring closer to 48 Matches as it was in previous worldcups. I think this version could be interesting!
I was going for a crazy big tournament: "If you make 8 groups out of 48, you would have 6 in each group! You let the first 4 teams go through for the last 32. To get the best possible last of 16, you could pair a first place with a fourth place and a second place with a third place for the last 32! So you would have to play 5 matches in the Group stage, and 5 in the knockout stages, making it a total of 10 Matches for a title. There would also be 3 matches simultaneously played at the end of the group matches, making it even more dramatic. This of course increases the risk of injury, so you would need a bigger squat and more substitutes. Another way to ensure physical fitness would be to reduce the playtime for the group stages to two halves of 30 minutes and increase it for the knock-out stages, which obviously will have backlash, but it could be fun and interesting, and older or weaker players could perform better in the group stages! This would mean instead of 270mins played in 3 Matches you would have 300mins played in 5 Matches. You could also have 2 matches simultaneously from the beginning and 3 at the end of the group stage, this way you could have 6 matches a night. That would mean you have 3 days' rest in between matches. And you have 120 matches played in 20 nights and the last 32 matches in 20-21 nights (4-5 rest days). So a total length of 40-41 nights!"
Seed the teams and the group winners of the groups featuring the top 8 teams advance to the round of 16 directly. The remaining four group winners and the second place teams play in the round of 32 with the winners advancing to play the already placed teams. No 3rd place teams will advance and the likely winner of the World Cup - assuming they are a top 8 ranked team and win their group would only have to play 7 games to win.
If there were only four remaining winners plus the runners up, there would only be sixteen teams in the round of 32. im guessing what you mean is that the reamining sixteen would play knockouts and then the winners will play against the seeded top 8, which I like haha
Here's my format suggestion. Keep it at 16 groups of 3, but each team plays their matches against a different group. Group A vs Group B, Group C vs Group D etc. Each team still plays 3 group matches and the final round of fixtures can still be played simultaneously. (There would than be 3 simultaneous games instead of 2) The top 2 in each group play each other in the R/O 32 etc.
If I understand you correctly it can happen that group A wins all its matches against group B with 1-0, so all teams will have 9 points in A and 0 points in B. Goals will be the same, so the number of yellow and red cards or fifa ranking will decide the outcome. Nice try, but no
Revised format suggestion: increase the number of participating teams to 64 (16 more than planned). This would mean more countries participating (hooray), and 16 groups of four with only the top two qualifying (no 3rd placed teams get through, which is fairer). That gives 32 qualifiers for the next round as in the current proposals.
How about 8 groups of 6, with each group split 3 on side A and 3 on side B. Side A teams play side B teams, and 1 team advances per side. That yields 16 teams to straight elimination and a max of 7 games for the finalists. This eliminates any match fixing during round robins and allows each participant country a minimum 3 games. Also, only creme de la creme advance (no 3rd place round robins advancing).
I was going to say the same thing about West Germany and Austria from 1982. I watched the same day one hour condensed version with Toby Charles as the commentator. He captured the moment perfectly in regards to how shambolic it was.
The World Cups from 1986-94 featured 24 teams in 6 groups of 4.The top two from each group plus the four best 3rd-placed teams from the six groups qualified for the Last 16 knockout stage. The 2026 tournament will be twice the size of 1986-94, with 12 groups (instead of 6) of four teams plus the eight (compared to 4) best 3rd-placed teams qualifying for the knockout stage. (Last 32, instead of Last 16).
I'm curious how many people fly to America for games from other countries - especially with the group stages being expanded to 48 teams. 2026 will be the biggest and best World Cup yet.
I have best format for 48 teams …. 8 groups of 6 . 2 Euro teams per group. Top 3 of each group quality . 1st , 2nd , 3rd All 2nd will cross play a 3rd for a knock out . Winners will cross play a 1st qualifier to end up with a top 16. Top 16 play off as normal. Please comment what you think .
Thank you very much, I finally understand the format of ms 2026, now I realize that it will be a great 48 teams, I can hope that whether it will be my country Slovakia or our brother country Czech Republic, besides I will watch night after night
Yay very great letting teams through who finished 3rd: - group stage would be boring just as the Euros - how stupid is it to compare teams who had complety different opponents and constellations within in their groups?! - Teams in Group L have a CLEAR Advantage compared to teams in group A, knowing exactly what result is needed to Top the teams who already played their 3rd match - how stupid is that? You just shift the Problem you had with 16×3 within the groups to the same Problems you have to 12×4 by comparing groups Just bullshit, got it?
I'm italian and my team didn't play much in the 2024 world cup, so i supported Morocco the whole way through. If they didnt get to play i would have enjoyed the WC way less. More nations is good
I would prefer the 4 team model. Granted the whole 3rd place thing might not be the most fair way of doing things but that is way better than having a bunch of group stage matches between two sides that know for sure they only need a draw to advance.
My Format: Groups: 8 groups of 6. Top 4 advance from each advance. 32 teams remain Swiss Format: Win three games to advance. 16 teams remain Single Elimination to the winner of the world cup. I like this format as I think its the most fair for everyone and makes depth more important. The problem is the number of matches.
After the group stage of 12 groups with 4 teams, 24 teams qualify for the knockouts which would have 8 1/8 groups with 3 teams. From those 8 group only the winner go to the quarterfinals. We would have 8 games to win the cup, but no third place teams could go through and there is no 1/16 finals at all.
I agree with your "FAKE EXAMPLE". It's a great thing to play at the same time not knowing the result of your fellow teams in your group. Just like in 2018 when the Mexicans knew that Germany concedes a goal against South Korea while playing against Sweden in the Group stage. In other words, you need your A+ game at all times just to qualify to the next round.
I would recover the format from Spain'82: First Round: 12 groups of 4 teams. First 2 advance to Second Round Second Round: 8 groups of 3 teams: The winner advances to Quarter Finals. Quarter Finals, Semi Finals and Final. That Second Round is not a knockout round but it is very similar. I loved back in the day this format and it would be great.
8 Groups of 6. Top 3 advance. 1st gets a bye. 2nd plays a 3rd from another group. Winners of that knockout play one of the 1sts in the round of 16. You could play up to 10 games, but most likely the max would be 9 since group winners would be most likely to make the final. More games would be worth it. 1st in group would matter more. Less of a fluky call or red card affecting who makes the knockouts. Every team gets 5 games to showcase their talent and make it worth investing into for the middle ability countries.
8 groups of 6 is the only option that I like of all the possibilities. I would remove the intermediate step though, and have only the top 2 teams in each group pass to the next round, although I don't specially dislike that idea either. 3 teams per group won't make for a very good group stage, and having the "best" thirds advance is terrible imo. It would be ok-ish if there were only 1 or 2 teams advancing this way, but you have 8 out of 12, that's not the "best" thirds, that's the majority of them. The only issues I see with 6 teams per group is that it adds 2 extra games, and that it kind of makes the groups a bit less unpredictable, as it makes it easier for more powerful nations to recover from a bad game.
@@Mattz342 I know, but the alternatives seem even worse to me, and I can see FIFA taking an option with more games (therefore more money) over one with less. Personally I would have preferred the format to stay as it was, 32 teams was perfect (regarding the format, I don't think more teams is bad just because there are more teams). The other only option I see to have a "good" format is to actually increase it to 64 teams instead of 48, which I guess is where we'll be headed in a couple editions.
Lets see if CL format will work well than world cup format can be considered similarly: -24 teams of 2 groups -Each team will play 5 games in the groups stages which means 4 subgroups of 6 teams inside each main group. -1st and 2nd goes directly to quarter final (4 teams) -3rd and 4th teams will paired diagonally and play one extra game to go quarter (2 teams) -5th-6th-7th-8th will be paired diagonally and play two extra games to go quarter (2 teams) -Fair pairing is possible in quarters according to achievements in the previous stages -The champion will play minimum 8 games maximum 10 games. -More amount of games is an inevitable problem.
Personally i prefer it to be 8 groups of 6 which means more equal groups but instead of more than half gets to knockout rounds its exactly half: 2-3 go to a playoff round(cant play the same group and 2nd play 3rd and vice versa) Then the 1st places join to form Ro16. This gives the best nations some time to rest but also make for more matches than the current state but less than the intended one
The 8 group format would require 20 days for group stages ( considering 6 games a day plated from 12 noon and every 2 hour interval ) & 16 for knock out with 1 rest day between the two - total 37 days only. Much more revenue with 136 games in all. 🎉
You are wrong.Extending participants above 24 was disastrous.You probably have no good clue what football and European and World.Championship is. 32 participants was absolute disaster and 48 is just horribly ridiculous. That's not a WC anymore.
Couple points. If you look at the years the expansions occurred they were typically after major world events (mostly global wars or conflicts) on which more countries form formed. WWI and WWII lead to many form countries and many big countries breaking up into smaller pieces (Soviet Union, later Yugoslavia), countless countries in Africa, etc. which in-itself is an organic expansion. This seems to be forced for $$$
At this point, might as well expand the world cup again to 64 teams. 16 groups of 4, top 2 advances to round of 32. Having more teams will make the world cup feels less “exclusive” or “special”, but it will mean more games and more chances for smaller teams to participate in the world cup. And more money to Fifa which they would certainly take. It would also mean more cross-country bids is necessary since there will be more games to be held
@Captainfalconmain65 Who cares? It will allow lower level teams to participate that will likely never do it again in history again this change is just for this cycle if you don't like it then don't watch it 🤷♂️
How about 8 groups of 6. Top two qualify to the Round of 16. A lot of group games, which is fun. Winner ends up playing 9 games, which is a lot, but worth it. 5 Group games would be exciting, and debut teams get plenty of world cup experience even if they don't win a single game.
I would suggest the concept of having each confederation's tournament winners automatically qualify. This way it allows more nations the chance of entry.
i think the reason they don’t do this let’s say a undogs wins it and they embarrass themselves an the actual tournament that’s why they don’t do it mostly likely
The only reason FIFA have raised the teams in the World Cup is because more games = more money from the broadcasting rights it's always been like that since they went from 16 to 24 in 1982
I really hate that teams can essentially coast to the knockout stages with 3 points. The final group games are always my favorite part of the tournament. Allowing 3rd place teams to qualify really takes the air out of the final group games
8 groups of 6. Top two advance. That puts the finalists at 9 games and adds more games for every team throughout the tournament as well. Probably too wacky for some purists but if FIFA likes money this is a way to create more match days.
although this would be fun, the number of game would go from 76 to 135 rather than the 88 proposed meaning the tournament is then too long to be played in a summer break between seasons
1 - Europe has more international teams in it than any other continent (55). Africa (54) Asia (47) North America (41) South America (10). 2 - Out of all these teams European teams are generally rated higher than other continents in the world rankings and are better quality. 3 - Football was invented in Europe and is more supported in Europe than any other continent, Europe also has a better history than any other continent. 4. If there was a club world cup for basketball or baseball you would see more American teams in it than any other nation
Groups of 3 are only a problem if two teams advance from them. When only a single team does, groups of 3 work perfectly. We could use groups of 3 and still play a total of 8 games for the champion. My scenario: Round 1 Group play: 12 groups of 4; top 2 teams advance [24 teams]. Round 2 Group play: 8 groups of 3; ONLY top team advances [8 teams]. Knockout stages then begin at QF stage [8 teams] - then SF [teams] - Final [2 teams]
Is 48 teams in the WC a good idea? Yes. At the moment, 37% of the world's population almost always misses the WC (India and China have almost always missed the WC historically) with FIFA and the confederations missing out on a significant chunk of revenues that could be poured into the sport from those 2 countries. To be clear, I'm not advocating that we find more ways to specifically sneak those 2 in. They indeed have to earn their way in, but with 48 teams it increases their chances going forward in time, just like it would increase the chances of other lesser teams in the WC.
Someone probably said this but: 12 groups of 4, top 2 qualify, random draw for 6 groups of 4, of which the top 2 (12 teams) and top 4 third place teams (16 teams total) go into a 16 team knockout. So a second group stage
I did a fantasy world cup and this is what i mostly did in the continental qualifiers lol. Although in real life, I feel like it is such a hassle if there are two group stages for a tournament. This will also bring the total number of matches to be played by the final two teams into 10 which is too tiring for the players. But hey, no format is perfect.
I'd say for the second group stage, just to reduce the number of games make it so you have to win your group automatically to make the quarterfinals, so winners and top 2 runners up, especially as there's no point of a group stage to just eliminate 8/24 teams. 9 games for the winners and a total of 116 games.
I prefer groups of 4 over 3 any day, but I would like my proposal more. 8 groups of 6 with only the top 2 going through. This will guarantee the best teams going through and 5 matches for everyone (we waited 4 years for this for crying out loud) with the top 4 playing 9 games (Finals/3rd Place Match). More games = more money which can be great for poorer nations.
I do think that could be an effective format in some ways, such as lack of collusion/fixing (assuming that the final three (of fifteen) matches are played simultaneously). However, the reason that I cannot see that being chosen for a world cup would be the length. That is because you would have 136 matches altogether, and it would be most efficient to have at least three games on a time during group and early knockout stages. But during the semi-finals, you cannot have three matches on, so it would take (in my opinion) about two months to complete. Overall, if it was three matches on at a time during group stage, and five days being required for each group, you would get 40 days of group stages, unless they do six matches, three from two different groups), and then it would take almost three more weeks for the knockout stage. While it would work if the world cup acted as a full-scale season (as opposed to a tournament), it wouldn't work as intended. groups of six could still work for a smaller tournament though.
I’ve been advocating this too, another thing they could have is 1st reach the last 16 and then 2nd play 3rd in an additional knock out game, more teams reach the knockouts and have a chance in the group stage but at the very least 8 groups of 6 seems better
@@superman-rz3vw You are absolutely correct. That is obviously another major problem with groups of 6 is that under groups of 4, teams can already be mathematically bound to elimination before their last group match, and groups of 6 could make that problem worse
Maybe they can organize it with three groups of 16 teams. The top 5 teams from each group would advance, along with the 6th place team with the best record across all three groups combined. After that, it would proceed to the round of 16, and so on.
12 groups of 4. Bottom team in each group eliminated. Top 2 in each group qualify for Round of 32. Top 4 3rd-placed teams (by results against the top 2) qualify for Round of 32, with the other 8 playing an "Intermediate Round" to determine the final 4 for the Round of 32. The "Intermediate Round" means that every 3rd placed team has a chance of reaching the Round of 32 regardless of the relative strength of their group.
"Your country won't play in the World Cup." Honestly, as an American, the only thing that will happen if I don't like this video is we won't get out of our group. But, even if I like it, we might not get out of the group anyway. (I did like it.) I'm all for expansion. Let's go to 64. I'm just not sure I like the three squad groups.
Have 2 group stages: Group stage 1 consists of 16 groups of 3. Top 2 qualify to the second group stage. Group stage 2 consists of 8 groups of 4. Top 2 qualify to the round of 16 (knockouts). Every team will be in the same group as the other qualified team in their first group, meaning they can carry the result of the first game into the next group, and you only need 2 matchdays in the second group rather than 3. Because your result gets carried over, if you deliberately collaborate in group 1, you then carry a worse record into group 2 and reduce your chances of progressing to the knockouts, so it discourages matchfixing. We also get the "pure" group stage chaos where the best 2 teams qualify with no funny business about 3rd place teams or teams sitting out on the last matchday. Eg. Group 1A: Brazil Senegal Czechia Group 1B: USA Ukraine Uzbekistan Senegal and Czechia draw 1-1, Brazil beat Senegal 2-1, now Czechia need a point to qualify, Brazil are already qualified so they could collaborate and agree to draw or lose to help Czechia get through. However, if this happens, the 2 teams start on 1 point in group 2A, so that is not ideal, so Brazil try harder and win 3-1. Brazil progress with 6 points and Senegal progress with 1. Lets also say that in the first 2 games, Uzbekistan loses both times to the USA and Ukraine. This means that both the USA and Ukraine are already through, however because this game also matters for the next round, it doesn't become a "dead rubber" and both teams actually try for the win. Let's suggest that they in fact draw 2-2. This means group stage 2A starts like this: Brazil 3 points +1 GD USA 1 point +0 GD Ukraine 1 point +0 GD Senegal 0 points -1 GD Brazil now see the benefit of trying hard in their last game when they were already qualified, because it set them up for the new round. The US and Ukraine are both still in it because they didn't lose their game that would theoretically have been a dead rubber otherwise. Senegal still have a chance with 2 more games left. Each team must play 4 games to reach the round of 16, 2 in group stage 1 and 2 in group stage 2. That is the same number of games as required for 12 groups of 4, so logistically, it doesn't extend the length of the tournament too much.
It would of been nice if they just expanded 8 teams and keep it very similar to the current format but just adding one more team per group for the 8 groups.
40 vs. 48 doesn't really solve anything. Groups of 5 means two more rounds of group play, with one team getting a bye each round in each group. And you actually get the same potential for final round collision that you do in a group of 3, since there is an idle team in the last round. If you're going to do that, you may as well go to 48 with groups of 6. Still takes 5 rounds of group play (same as groups of 5 with 40 teams) but now all teams in the group can play simultaneously in the last round. I'm not sure they really want to add another 2 games and ~10 days to the event, but that would actually be a good format.
@@doktarr That is a good point, but it is slightly harder to fix matches in, because two matches are still played simultaneously. It still leaves the door open to a guaranteed elimination for the team not playing in the final round, because the managers will know how many points their team will need at minimum to guarantee elimination for the idle team.
I’m still confused about matches taking place in three countries. Where will the final be hosted? Will the competing squads not have to move around once we get through knockout rounds? Say for example your team advances past knockouts, would you have to go to another country to watch their matches?
We had better have good security after the Uruguay Columbia match. I doubt we will ever use riot geared soldiers as it would look bad for US Media but they gotta make sure. And NO tailgating! Oh and Tac you and 11 Yanks are my fave media guys for this sport.
I'm worried about how the knockout round looks with having 3rd place teams in, who plays who? Cuz I feel like euro cup has that but it's not very good on how teams are spread out, it's uneven and seems like some teams may be matched up unfairly
That is a legitimate concern, but it has to be considered in context. FIFA has expanded the WC to enable more countries - especially from outside Europe - to have a realistic chance of qualifying and - in exchange for the worthy policy - we have to accept some not exactly perfect features in the WC final competition format.
It's the same algorithm they used in 86/90/94, and it did work. All 8 qualified 3rds go against eight preselected 1sts, with a predetermined choosing order so every 1st always play a 3rd from a different group. The other 4 1st play 2nds, and the remaining 4 matches are 2nd vs 2nd.
@@JCCyC letting the 3rds through is just bullshit, how can it be fair to compare teams who had complety different opponents?! And btw A Team in group L would know exactly what result is needed to secure a spot for the last 32 (by getting through as 3rd and topping a Team from group A e.g.)
Match fixing happened in 1982 when West Germany beat Austria 1-0 to help both teams advance at the expense of Algeria. This led to FIFA to change the schedule to have the last 2 games simultaneously .
If we stick with the 2 teams per group advancing to the knockout, we could get 24 teams instead with the 24 dividing into 2 bracket which means we have a round of 12 for each bracket. Although there are some teams who'll be skipping some rounds, I think this should goes to the top scoring teams for their hardwork or the least scoring teams to give them a higher chance of having higher place in case they lose.
I think in the round of 48(round1) 12 teams are selected as seeds according to FIFA rankings, 16 teams will be selected as seeds based on the score in the round of 48 teams(round2) Continuing like that, 8 will be seeded(round3).Then 4 teams will be seeded(round4). In rounds 1,3, and 4 are based on the FiFa rankings.Finally, there is a random draw for semifinal! 10:1110:1110:110:175:348:449:520:25
My format: 8 groups of 6, top 2 advances to the knockout stages and when third place is tied, they will have a playoff to win the bronze group stage prize
Another suggestion is to have four tiers of world cup with 16 teams per cup, becoming 64 teams. Example 2027: tier 4 2028: tier 3 2029: tier 2 2030: tier 1 The top 8 from tiers 2 to 4 will be promoted up to play the next tier next year. The bottom 8 will be relegated. The rest of the world will play qualifiers for tier 4.
Suggested format 8 groups of 6 teams each. Each team plays 5 games at group stage. Last game of each group played together. So 3 matches happening simultaneously. Top 2 teams of each group enter round of 16. The two teams from each group are placed in separate halves. From round of 16 similar to earlier or 2022 World Cup format. Total 120 league games and 16 knock out games. Advantage - can recover after some upset. Winner would have to play a total of 5 league & 4 knock out games total of 9 games Under the 12 groups method the winner would play 3 league & 5 knock out matches. Total 8 games but mentally same taxing with 5 group & only 4 knock out games. Total games under 12 group format is 72 plus 32 games so 104 in all. There would be 136 games under my proposed format.
Honestly best format would be 12 groups of 4, Top 2 of each group go straight to knockout stage (24), 3rd place teams are seeded to play each other, whoever wins goes to knockout, and then you have a 32 team knockout stage to play. I feel like this format could make for really good underdog runs as 3rd place teams go off to the quarter or even semi finals. Plus it adds more meaningful matches to the tournament.
My idea for the group format will be 8 groups of 6 with 1st place qualifying and 2nd/3rd place going to a preliminary round were they play one game against a team that was not in their group and finished in a different position to theirs. And the winners of those matches will qualify for the round of 16 as usual. I think I'm smart.
Imagine it was treated like March Madness lol. Single elimination style games leading to the final. Sure it'd be incredibly short but I feel like we could get some huge upsets and tons of drama the whole way.
I’d love to see 8 groups of 6. Top 2 go onto the round of 16. Every team plays at least 5 games instead of only 2 in the projected format. Plus you can still recover from a bad game which is much harder in 3 team groups.
I thought of a round of 48 replacing the round of 32 and a round of 24 replacing round of 16 then the round of 12 semi-finals, and finals stage that has 3
I still think that two group stages is the best sollution. 12 groups of 4 in first one and 2 best placing teams advance further. Then 8 groups of 3 and group winners advance to the knockout. The number of played matches overall and matches played per team still will stay the same
Under the 8 group of 6 teams each the drama would be very high as 3 games ( all 6 teams from a group ) would be played at the same time so multiple permutations & combinations are possible.
I really hope they change to the alternative format with 12 groups of 4 and 36 advance. More countries would get to see their teams make it to the knockout stage, and byes are no fun because they benefit the teams that are already most likely to go all the way.
The ideal would be: First and second division world championship, consecutive points, with 24 countries each division and played through 4 years, games back and forth on FIFA dates, with the rise and fall of 4 countries, to be elected the world champion. At the end of the 4 years, the World Cup with both divisions, 48 teams. The current World Cup is no longer electing the best team on the planet and does not allow direct confrontation between the best teams in the world, the classics, which will become more difficult to happen with more teams. How long has it been since Brazil played in the word cup against England, Argentina, etc.? It's all about business 💰 and without classics the audience drops 💸 💸.
Do you think Australia will want to go back to the OFC with this new format, or will they just let New Zealand qualify almost automatically for the WC?
They won't. There is zero value of beating American Samoa 31-0. On top of that they are good enough to qualify in Asia with that many spots. Their biggest problem is that they have been mediocre for years and now they could easily qualify being mediocre. So, they don't have any incentives to improve. P.S. On the side note, without Australia OFC shouldn't even exist. FIFA should force these guys to merge with Asia.
@@ivanpetrov5185 OFC existing and getting a spot is a scam. That said, many of the small island nations might find it very difficult to afford flying to Syria every second game. The crazy distances involved do make it seem a bit impractical to merge them.
@@adavidavis2762 You are well aware the AFC qualifications are on geographical principle, don't you? There is no way the OFC nations fly to Syria. The whole Middle East and Iran will be closed to them. They will fly to Australia, Japan, both Koreas and the likes. Which is still a lot of travel, but not even close.
@@adavidavis2762 just regionalize the early qualifying rounds as its slim chance any of the island teams will ever get out of those early rounds anyway. Have Australia move back to Oceania but have the OFC as still part of Asia tournaments and qualifying where only the top two teams in Oceania move on to qualifying and playing tournaments within Asia.
The format i came up with seems to be really competitive and the most fun in my opinion but at the same time it can be a bit confusing to explain but it would be Group vs Group for example Group A vs group B and each group has 3 teams in it so let me explain Group A Usa Ghana Ukraine Group B England Senegal Colombia Usa Ghana and Ukraine will play 3 games against England Senegal and Colombia then the top two teams with the most points from each group will play againsy Each other. Further example Usa vs England 1-1 Usa vs Colombia 0-0 Usa vs Senegal 1-0 USA 5PTS Ghana vs England 0-2 Ghana vs Colombia 1-1 Ghana vs Senegal 0-1 Ghana 1 pts Ukraine vs England 0-4 Ukraine vs Colombia 0-1 Ukraine vs Senegal 0-1 Ukraine 0 Pts Usa 5 Ghana 1 Ukraine 0 So Usa will play against Ghana because they were the 1st and 2nd place then in group b it would be England 7 Senegal 7 Colombia 5 England vs Senegal in the knock offs
The revised format that I go through has been confirmed by FIFA, just now!!!!
Right on time.
Hey Tac, can you provide a link for the change? I haven't found anything on the FIFA website.
bullshit this is not the real format, 12 groups with 4 teams in each.
Now we can add "inside information" to the reasons to follow Tactical Manager!
Bullshit having teams getting through as 3rd by beeing compared with teams who had complety different opponents and constellations within the group. Group A has a clear disadavantage compared to Group L. Just unfair.
Why am I the only one seeing that.
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@@superman-rz3vw That's far fairer than having a 3-team group, my friend! Just check what happened to Algeria in 1982.
I'm old enough to remember World Cup '94. The 12 teams of 4 feels like a reversion to the 6 groups of 4 of those days and the look at the third place tables wondering who might qualify as best 3rd placed.
I remembered loving the expansion to 32 teams. The final group match drama is something that won't be as well replicated in the 48 team format unless the World Cup gets expanded again to 64. The moving of some of the drama to the third place table is going to take away some of that final group matches excitement.
That said, I think the 12 groups of four is a much better format than 16 groups of three and I hope that is the final decided format in the 48 team edition.
catenaccio dignified..
I hope for the first round of knockouts they do pot draws like the Champion's League. Like the first pot is the top 8 and they draw against a pot of the 8 third place teams. Then 9-12 group winners draw against 21-24 lower ranked 2nd place teams and 13-20 second place teams draw against each other within the same pot. So each team that qualifies for the round of 32 will be ranked 1-32 based on points, goal difference, goals scored, goals conceded, fair play, and then finally FIFA rankings if necessary. That way there is incentive to perform well in the group stage and promote inter-group competition. So teams will not just be competing within their group, but also fight for ranking with teams in other groups. And they should be distributed evenly on both sides of the knockout table based on the performance in the tournament so you dont't get 6 top 8 teams on one side of the table and only 2 top 8 teams on the other side.
Why wouldn't final group match reolicate in 48 team format . I mean i am very confused here byt they go with 12 group with 4 ream wouldn't it be same like 2022 ? Same thrill ?
@@natoslayer2907 it will make easy to score goals for top team,
And to become world cup top goal scores is easy which till 2006 is so hard,
New Zealand will make the 2026 world cup. Honestly what a time to be alive
@@bradschneider82 Solomon Islands will see u soon
The 2026, 2030, 2034, 2038, 2042, 2046, 2050, and 2054 world cups too and as an Australian I love to hate this lol
12 groups of 4. Take top two teams from each group for a knockout round of 24 teams, whereas 8 teams with the best points get a one game bye while the remaining 16 play each other, and the winners play the previously idle 8 teams. That way to qualify for the knockout round, a team is only compared to its own group. The teams getting the byes would be compared to other groups, but hey, it ain't gonna be perfect.
I like that idea better than 8 third place teams
this is exactly what I was thinking, 8 teams get a "bye"
I still think this is better, as it gives more chances
It also gives incentive to come out on top
Isn't it 32 in the knockout?
The pictures used were perfect for each topic 👍
If they are gonna rename the stadium for the games they should name it "New Jersey New York" stadium. New Jersy is it's own state and the stadium is in N.J.!!!
It should just be nj tbh. That’s confusing
hey I always will remember Austria and Germany getting the score that got them both through at the expense of Algeria and Chile in Spain '82... and seeing fans waving money implying a fix ... and seeing that after about eleven minutes neither team really seemed to be trying to score another goal
Letting 8 3rd placed teams based on comoarions throughout completely differant opponents and groups is not much better
Can u explain how it happened at the expense of Algeria? What needed to happen for Algeria to make it thru?
@@sepulvjl Germany and Austria knew exactly what result was needed to ensure them both to advance. Germany scored an early 1-0 against Austria.
Afterwards both teams just Stopped playing, just passed the Ball around.
@@sepulvjl algeria had already played their Last match
@@sepulvjl And Austria dropped from top of the group to second, and didn't make it to the finals. West Germany made it to the finals, losing to Italy.
I much prefer this format to the one originally proposed back in 2018. Groups of 3 teams aren’t as exciting
@@franciscobuenrostro3891 and gives room for game-fixing
My format suggestion: Keep the 12 groups of 4, and the 8 best 3rd-place teams. However, have the third place teams decided based on how close they are to 2nd place in their respective group.
For example, say that team 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 are all in different groups.
Say that all these teams placed third in their group. teams 1-8 are 2 points away from 2nd place, but teams 9-12 are 4 points away from 2nd place. That means teams 1-8 qualify for the knockout stage.
Tiebreakers (such as goal difference) work the same way as regular group stage tiebreakers, but the value is determined by the goal difference compared to second place.
For example, say that 2 teams (team A and B) are in third place of different groups. team 1 is second place in team A's group, and team 2 is second place in team B's group.
Here is a visualization:
Group X
1. Random Team
2. Team 1 (5 points) (Goal Difference: +2)
3. Team A (3 points) (Goal Difference: 0)
4. Random Team
Group Y
1. Random Team
2. Team 2 (3 points) (Goal Difference: +1)
3. Team B (1 point) (Goal Difference: 0)
4. Random Team
Even though teams A and B have the same goal difference, team B has a closer goal difference to 2nd place of their group. Therefore, team B would advance.
After the group stage, it would go into the round of 32 knockout stage.
I like 12 groups of 4. On June 25, 1982 in Spain, Germany and Austria stroked each other the entire 2nd half of their final group match after Germany went up 1-0 in the opening half, putting both teams through to the elimination round, screwing over Algeria. It was a shameful World Cup moment. Since then, Game 3 group games have been played simultaneously.
"your country will not be in the world cup" not my born country and blood country being the host of the world cup
the good thing about the bottom spots being "play in" spots is that even if they're not great, at least they'll have some momentum
12 groups of four all day long. I means no team is mathematically out after two games. which means theres plenty to play for even if you lose your first two games. I remember this format from the 86, 90 and 94 world cups and missed it when they moved to the 32 game format.
With groups of 3, you need to add another knock out round. Group winners advance directly to the round of 32, while 2nd place teams play 3rd place from another group for the other 16 spots.
Advantages:
1) Gives real stakes to winning your group (get a rest week instead of an elimination game) so final round match fixing becomes less likely
2) every team still gets 3 games minimum
3) every team is on the field when they are eliminated. You have to lose to get knocked out.
4) Group winners play the same number of games that they did in 2022, just replacing one group game with a knockout game.
5) Unlike the new format, there's no semi meaningless cross group comparisons that are largely decided by running up the score on bad teams
Fair. Why haven’t I seen such idea brought up?
@@huykim4663 because most people are terrible at figuring out tournament formats?
I've been organizing tournament structures for a national sporting organization (USA Ultimate) for the last 22 years so I have a lot of experience with tournaments of roughly this length.
Because the knockout is against another group you still have an incentive to get to 2nd place and you have an earlier comparison with another group. But goals scored in a 2nd vs. 3rd place should not fall into the statistics or else the golden boot, might be easier to win if you are not first place! On the other hand, it's also more likely to get a match ban because of the extra cards you receive... That would mean that it is easier than ever to get into the knockouts, it means a total of 3 matches for a group and an extra Group-knockout-match. This would mean 16 groups x 3 Matches + 16 Group-Knockout-matches = 64 Matches compared to the 72 matches if there are 6 matches in 12 groups. And would it bring closer to 48 Matches as it was in previous worldcups.
I think this version could be interesting!
I was going for a crazy big tournament:
"If you make 8 groups out of 48, you would have 6 in each group! You let the first 4 teams go through for the last 32.
To get the best possible last of 16, you could pair a first place with a fourth place and a second place with a third place for the last 32!
So you would have to play 5 matches in the Group stage, and 5 in the knockout stages, making it a total of 10 Matches for a title. There would also be 3 matches simultaneously played at the end of the group matches, making it even more dramatic.
This of course increases the risk of injury, so you would need a bigger squat and more substitutes. Another way to ensure physical fitness would be to reduce the playtime for the group stages to two halves of 30 minutes and increase it for the knock-out stages, which obviously will have backlash, but it could be fun and interesting, and older or weaker players could perform better in the group stages! This would mean instead of 270mins played in 3 Matches you would have 300mins played in 5 Matches.
You could also have 2 matches simultaneously from the beginning and 3 at the end of the group stage, this way you could have 6 matches a night. That would mean you have 3 days' rest in between matches. And you have 120 matches played in 20 nights and the last 32 matches in 20-21 nights (4-5 rest days). So a total length of 40-41 nights!"
@@doktarrnah they are not terrible stop dreaming. It is not that hard to figure out what is the best format... Dont act superior
Seed the teams and the group winners of the groups featuring the top 8 teams advance to the round of 16 directly. The remaining four group winners and the second place teams play in the round of 32 with the winners advancing to play the already placed teams. No 3rd place teams will advance and the likely winner of the World Cup - assuming they are a top 8 ranked team and win their group would only have to play 7 games to win.
If there were only four remaining winners plus the runners up, there would only be sixteen teams in the round of 32. im guessing what you mean is that the reamining sixteen would play knockouts and then the winners will play against the seeded top 8, which I like haha
Here's my format suggestion. Keep it at 16 groups of 3, but each team plays their matches against a different group. Group A vs Group B, Group C vs Group D etc. Each team still plays 3 group matches and the final round of fixtures can still be played simultaneously. (There would than be 3 simultaneous games instead of 2) The top 2 in each group play each other in the R/O 32 etc.
mate thats really strange
If I understand you correctly it can happen that group A wins all its matches against group B with 1-0, so all teams will have 9 points in A and 0 points in B. Goals will be the same, so the number of yellow and red cards or fifa ranking will decide the outcome. Nice try, but no
Revised format suggestion: increase the number of participating teams to 64 (16 more than planned). This would mean more countries participating (hooray), and 16 groups of four with only the top two qualifying (no 3rd placed teams get through, which is fairer). That gives 32 qualifiers for the next round as in the current proposals.
How about 8 groups of 6, with each group split 3 on side A and 3 on side B. Side A teams play side B teams, and 1 team advances per side. That yields 16 teams to straight elimination and a max of 7 games for the finalists. This eliminates any match fixing during round robins and allows each participant country a minimum 3 games. Also, only creme de la creme advance (no 3rd place round robins advancing).
I can give a real example of match fixing in the World Cup. Germany-Austria screwed Algeria in 1982.
I was going to say the same thing about West Germany and Austria from 1982. I watched the same day one hour condensed version with Toby Charles as the commentator. He captured the moment perfectly in regards to how shambolic it was.
The World Cups from 1986-94 featured 24 teams in 6 groups of 4.The top two from each group plus the four best 3rd-placed teams from the six groups qualified for the Last 16 knockout stage.
The 2026 tournament will be twice the size of 1986-94, with 12 groups (instead of 6) of four teams plus the eight (compared to 4) best 3rd-placed teams qualifying for the knockout stage. (Last 32, instead of Last 16).
I'm curious how many people fly to America for games from other countries - especially with the group stages being expanded to 48 teams. 2026 will be the biggest and best World Cup yet.
I have no doubt that you will watch all 104 games
@@renatasgaudinskas3112 I'm taking a month off work, so yes - I will be trying to watch all the games and attend all the USMNT games.
@@letsexperienceearth3034 i will watch from play off
I have best format for 48 teams ….
8 groups of 6 .
2 Euro teams per group.
Top 3 of each group quality . 1st , 2nd , 3rd
All 2nd will cross play a 3rd for a knock out .
Winners will cross play a 1st qualifier to end up with a top 16.
Top 16 play off as normal.
Please comment what you think .
Honestly the 8 3rd place teams qualifying is fine with me whether it’s a easy group or not because it gives underdogs a chance to shine
Like portugal winning euro cup in 2016,
Thank you very much, I finally understand the format of ms 2026, now I realize that it will be a great 48 teams, I can hope that whether it will be my country Slovakia or our brother country Czech Republic, besides I will watch night after night
I hope too cuz i want our country czech to play in something major lol
@@doglix3259 the Czech Republic always qualifies for the Euro but not the World Cup
Yay very great letting teams through who finished 3rd:
- group stage would be boring just as the Euros
- how stupid is it to compare teams who had complety different opponents and constellations within in their groups?!
- Teams in Group L have a CLEAR Advantage compared to teams in group A, knowing exactly what result is needed to Top the teams who already played their 3rd match
- how stupid is that? You just shift the Problem you had with 16×3 within the groups to the same Problems you have to 12×4 by comparing groups
Just bullshit, got it?
I'm italian and my team didn't play much in the 2024 world cup, so i supported Morocco the whole way through.
If they didnt get to play i would have enjoyed the WC way less.
More nations is good
Your comment makes no sense
Time flies wow. USA 94 was great. Where did 30 years go?
I would prefer the 4 team model. Granted the whole 3rd place thing might not be the most fair way of doing things but that is way better than having a bunch of group stage matches between two sides that know for sure they only need a draw to advance.
Knockout round from start to finish :) Sounds crazy, but I would love if they tried it - makes every game worthwhile :)
My Format:
Groups: 8 groups of 6. Top 4 advance from each advance.
32 teams remain
Swiss Format: Win three games to advance.
16 teams remain
Single Elimination to the winner of the world cup.
I like this format as I think its the most fair for everyone and makes depth more important. The problem is the number of matches.
After the group stage of 12 groups with 4 teams, 24 teams qualify for the knockouts which would have 8 1/8 groups with 3 teams. From those 8 group only the winner go to the quarterfinals. We would have 8 games to win the cup, but no third place teams could go through and there is no 1/16 finals at all.
Think this is perfect
I agree with your "FAKE EXAMPLE". It's a great thing to play at the same time not knowing the result of your fellow teams in your group. Just like in 2018 when the Mexicans knew that Germany concedes a goal against South Korea while playing against Sweden in the Group stage. In other words, you need your A+ game at all times just to qualify to the next round.
I would recover the format from Spain'82:
First Round: 12 groups of 4 teams. First 2 advance to Second Round
Second Round: 8 groups of 3 teams: The winner advances to Quarter Finals.
Quarter Finals, Semi Finals and Final.
That Second Round is not a knockout round but it is very similar. I loved back in the day this format and it would be great.
8 Groups of 6. Top 3 advance. 1st gets a bye. 2nd plays a 3rd from another group. Winners of that knockout play one of the 1sts in the round of 16. You could play up to 10 games, but most likely the max would be 9 since group winners would be most likely to make the final. More games would be worth it. 1st in group would matter more. Less of a fluky call or red card affecting who makes the knockouts. Every team gets 5 games to showcase their talent and make it worth investing into for the middle ability countries.
8 groups of 6 is the only option that I like of all the possibilities. I would remove the intermediate step though, and have only the top 2 teams in each group pass to the next round, although I don't specially dislike that idea either. 3 teams per group won't make for a very good group stage, and having the "best" thirds advance is terrible imo. It would be ok-ish if there were only 1 or 2 teams advancing this way, but you have 8 out of 12, that's not the "best" thirds, that's the majority of them. The only issues I see with 6 teams per group is that it adds 2 extra games, and that it kind of makes the groups a bit less unpredictable, as it makes it easier for more powerful nations to recover from a bad game.
@@alpuzza I like 8 groups of 6 but the only problem is the number of matches. Its 120 matches just for groups alone.
@@Mattz342 I know, but the alternatives seem even worse to me, and I can see FIFA taking an option with more games (therefore more money) over one with less. Personally I would have preferred the format to stay as it was, 32 teams was perfect (regarding the format, I don't think more teams is bad just because there are more teams). The other only option I see to have a "good" format is to actually increase it to 64 teams instead of 48, which I guess is where we'll be headed in a couple editions.
@@alpuzza but you cant just jump from 32 to 64. This is why you need this 48 team format for maybe the next 3 or 4 world cups.
Lets see if CL format will work well than world cup format can be considered similarly:
-24 teams of 2 groups
-Each team will play 5 games in the groups stages which means 4 subgroups of 6 teams inside each main group.
-1st and 2nd goes directly to quarter final (4 teams)
-3rd and 4th teams will paired diagonally and play one extra game to go quarter (2 teams)
-5th-6th-7th-8th will be paired diagonally and play two extra games to go quarter (2 teams)
-Fair pairing is possible in quarters according to achievements in the previous stages
-The champion will play minimum 8 games maximum 10 games.
-More amount of games is an inevitable problem.
I like third place groups moving forward because there’s actually something to fight for if you have lost your first two games
This will be a fire WC and the first I can actually attend
Personally i prefer it to be 8 groups of 6 which means more equal groups but instead of more than half gets to knockout rounds its exactly half:
2-3 go to a playoff round(cant play the same group and 2nd play 3rd and vice versa)
Then the 1st places join to form Ro16.
This gives the best nations some time to rest but also make for more matches than the current state but less than the intended one
The 8 group format would require 20 days for group stages ( considering 6 games a day plated from 12 noon and every 2 hour interval ) & 16 for knock out with 1 rest day between the two - total 37 days only. Much more revenue with 136 games in all. 🎉
You are wrong.Extending participants above 24 was disastrous.You probably have no good clue what football and European and World.Championship is. 32 participants was absolute disaster and 48 is just horribly ridiculous. That's not a WC anymore.
so the world cup should be 24 teams according to you ?
Couple points. If you look at the years the expansions occurred they were typically after major world events (mostly global wars or conflicts) on which more countries form formed. WWI and WWII lead to many form countries and many big countries breaking up into smaller pieces (Soviet Union, later Yugoslavia), countless countries in Africa, etc. which in-itself is an organic expansion. This seems to be forced for $$$
“The Interconfederation playoff” voice over startled me hahah
Great video dude! Fantastic explanations
At this point, might as well expand the world cup again to 64 teams. 16 groups of 4, top 2 advances to round of 32.
Having more teams will make the world cup feels less “exclusive” or “special”, but it will mean more games and more chances for smaller teams to participate in the world cup. And more money to Fifa which they would certainly take.
It would also mean more cross-country bids is necessary since there will be more games to be held
This will be the best world cup with the new format set to expand!
No lol
@@captainfalconmain6576 yes lol
@@luckymark571no
@@luckymark571that is way to many games 3rd place teams making it don’t feel it used to be like that was 24 teams not 48 tho
@Captainfalconmain65 Who cares? It will allow lower level teams to participate that will likely never do it again in history again this change is just for this cycle if you don't like it then don't watch it 🤷♂️
I think it should be like the euro 2024 format but it would be twice the size
My country the USA is the host nation so it automatically qualified. I liked it anyway because you do a good job breaking down soccer issues.
Not only that. USA, together with Canada and Mexico will be in pot 1, so they will avoid Brazil, Argentina, Germany, England, Spain, etc.
How about 8 groups of 6. Top two qualify to the Round of 16. A lot of group games, which is fun. Winner ends up playing 9 games, which is a lot, but worth it. 5 Group games would be exciting, and debut teams get plenty of world cup experience even if they don't win a single game.
Im so sick of uefa taking waaaay too many spots
9 from uefa 6 spots from South America 4 from North America 5 Asia 7 from Africa spot ofc off playoff spot concaf and Asia
This would be fair for a 32 team World Cup
Yea I think 48 team World Cup i not a good idea it just favors South America and Africa this 32 team I just told you would be better
I would suggest the concept of having each confederation's tournament winners automatically qualify. This way it allows more nations the chance of entry.
i think the reason they don’t do this let’s say a undogs wins it and they embarrass themselves an the actual tournament that’s why they don’t do it mostly likely
Omg Guatemala might have a chance for once! Oh please please please :)
The format is basically the same as Euros just twice as big
yep, there will be teams advancing with 2 points, heck maybe even with 1 😂😂
The only reason FIFA have raised the teams in the World Cup is because
more games = more money from the broadcasting rights
it's always been like that since they went from 16 to 24 in 1982
😭😭😭😭😭
@@0047sssss Also infantino promised to increase the amount of teams in the World Cup so he could win the election to stay as FIFA president.
I really hate that teams can essentially coast to the knockout stages with 3 points. The final group games are always my favorite part of the tournament. Allowing 3rd place teams to qualify really takes the air out of the final group games
Hosting by 3 countries is a killing of football which is almost dead even without this.
What are you even talking about😂
8 groups of 6. Top two advance. That puts the finalists at 9 games and adds more games for every team throughout the tournament as well. Probably too wacky for some purists but if FIFA likes money this is a way to create more match days.
although this would be fun, the number of game would go from 76 to 135 rather than the 88 proposed meaning the tournament is then too long to be played in a summer break between seasons
Why is it that Europe has more slots in the FIFA World Cup than any other continent?
Because they are better than any other
1 - Europe has more international teams in it than any other continent (55). Africa (54) Asia (47) North America (41) South America (10).
2 - Out of all these teams European teams are generally rated higher than other continents in the world rankings and are better quality.
3 - Football was invented in Europe and is more supported in Europe than any other continent, Europe also has a better history than any other continent.
4. If there was a club world cup for basketball or baseball you would see more American teams in it than any other nation
@@Liam1967 there is a basketball and baseball world cup and America didnt win the latest renditions of them
Groups of 3 are only a problem if two teams advance from them. When only a single team does, groups of 3 work perfectly.
We could use groups of 3 and still play a total of 8 games for the champion. My scenario:
Round 1 Group play: 12 groups of 4; top 2 teams advance [24 teams].
Round 2 Group play: 8 groups of 3; ONLY top team advances [8 teams].
Knockout stages then begin at QF stage [8 teams] - then SF [teams] - Final [2 teams]
It's good and FIFA have done that before. The problem is the amount of time to finish the competition.
why can’t they just stick with 32 but instead reduce UEFAS 13 spots and re-distribute amongst the other confederations?
More games = more $$$ from the broadcasting rights
I'm gonna love this world cup
Is 48 teams in the WC a good idea? Yes. At the moment, 37% of the world's population almost always misses the WC (India and China have almost always missed the WC historically) with FIFA and the confederations missing out on a significant chunk of revenues that could be poured into the sport from those 2 countries.
To be clear, I'm not advocating that we find more ways to specifically sneak those 2 in. They indeed have to earn their way in, but with 48 teams it increases their chances going forward in time, just like it would increase the chances of other lesser teams in the WC.
Someone probably said this but:
12 groups of 4, top 2 qualify, random draw for 6 groups of 4, of which the top 2 (12 teams) and top 4 third place teams (16 teams total) go into a 16 team knockout. So a second group stage
I did a fantasy world cup and this is what i mostly did in the continental qualifiers lol. Although in real life, I feel like it is such a hassle if there are two group stages for a tournament. This will also bring the total number of matches to be played by the final two teams into 10 which is too tiring for the players. But hey, no format is perfect.
I'd say for the second group stage, just to reduce the number of games make it so you have to win your group automatically to make the quarterfinals, so winners and top 2 runners up, especially as there's no point of a group stage to just eliminate 8/24 teams. 9 games for the winners and a total of 116 games.
I prefer groups of 4 over 3 any day, but I would like my proposal more. 8 groups of 6 with only the top 2 going through. This will guarantee the best teams going through and 5 matches for everyone (we waited 4 years for this for crying out loud) with the top 4 playing 9 games (Finals/3rd Place Match). More games = more money which can be great for poorer nations.
I do think that could be an effective format in some ways, such as lack of collusion/fixing (assuming that the final three (of fifteen) matches are played simultaneously). However, the reason that I cannot see that being chosen for a world cup would be the length. That is because you would have 136 matches altogether, and it would be most efficient to have at least three games on a time during group and early knockout stages. But during the semi-finals, you cannot have three matches on, so it would take (in my opinion) about two months to complete. Overall, if it was three matches on at a time during group stage, and five days being required for each group, you would get 40 days of group stages, unless they do six matches, three from two different groups), and then it would take almost three more weeks for the knockout stage. While it would work if the world cup acted as a full-scale season (as opposed to a tournament), it wouldn't work as intended. groups of six could still work for a smaller tournament though.
I’ve been advocating this too, another thing they could have is 1st reach the last 16 and then 2nd play 3rd in an additional knock out game, more teams reach the knockouts and have a chance in the group stage but at the very least 8 groups of 6 seems better
Except they are ruining the format and the game just for money and it’s not like they are gonna donate all the money to the poorer non-host nations.
Not managable in this shortage of time and boring matches with teams who are already out.
@@superman-rz3vw You are absolutely correct. That is obviously another major problem with groups of 6 is that under groups of 4, teams can already be mathematically bound to elimination before their last group match, and groups of 6 could make that problem worse
Maybe they can organize it with three groups of 16 teams. The top 5 teams from each group would advance, along with the 6th place team with the best record across all three groups combined. After that, it would proceed to the round of 16, and so on.
@@chungjisung one problem is that there would be 360 games in the group stage. It could be a full fledged league in some countries
12 groups of 4. Bottom team in each group eliminated.
Top 2 in each group qualify for Round of 32. Top 4 3rd-placed teams (by results against the top 2) qualify for Round of 32, with the other 8 playing an "Intermediate Round" to determine the final 4 for the Round of 32.
The "Intermediate Round" means that every 3rd placed team has a chance of reaching the Round of 32 regardless of the relative strength of their group.
"Your country won't play in the World Cup." Honestly, as an American, the only thing that will happen if I don't like this video is we won't get out of our group. But, even if I like it, we might not get out of the group anyway. (I did like it.)
I'm all for expansion. Let's go to 64. I'm just not sure I like the three squad groups.
maybe italy will actually qualify
Have 2 group stages:
Group stage 1 consists of 16 groups of 3. Top 2 qualify to the second group stage.
Group stage 2 consists of 8 groups of 4. Top 2 qualify to the round of 16 (knockouts). Every team will be in the same group as the other qualified team in their first group, meaning they can carry the result of the first game into the next group, and you only need 2 matchdays in the second group rather than 3. Because your result gets carried over, if you deliberately collaborate in group 1, you then carry a worse record into group 2 and reduce your chances of progressing to the knockouts, so it discourages matchfixing. We also get the "pure" group stage chaos where the best 2 teams qualify with no funny business about 3rd place teams or teams sitting out on the last matchday.
Eg.
Group 1A:
Brazil
Senegal
Czechia
Group 1B:
USA
Ukraine
Uzbekistan
Senegal and Czechia draw 1-1, Brazil beat Senegal 2-1, now Czechia need a point to qualify, Brazil are already qualified so they could collaborate and agree to draw or lose to help Czechia get through. However, if this happens, the 2 teams start on 1 point in group 2A, so that is not ideal, so Brazil try harder and win 3-1. Brazil progress with 6 points and Senegal progress with 1.
Lets also say that in the first 2 games, Uzbekistan loses both times to the USA and Ukraine. This means that both the USA and Ukraine are already through, however because this game also matters for the next round, it doesn't become a "dead rubber" and both teams actually try for the win. Let's suggest that they in fact draw 2-2.
This means group stage 2A starts like this:
Brazil 3 points +1 GD
USA 1 point +0 GD
Ukraine 1 point +0 GD
Senegal 0 points -1 GD
Brazil now see the benefit of trying hard in their last game when they were already qualified, because it set them up for the new round. The US and Ukraine are both still in it because they didn't lose their game that would theoretically have been a dead rubber otherwise. Senegal still have a chance with 2 more games left.
Each team must play 4 games to reach the round of 16, 2 in group stage 1 and 2 in group stage 2. That is the same number of games as required for 12 groups of 4, so logistically, it doesn't extend the length of the tournament too much.
It would of been nice if they just expanded 8 teams and keep it very similar to the current format but just adding one more team per group for the 8 groups.
40 vs. 48 doesn't really solve anything. Groups of 5 means two more rounds of group play, with one team getting a bye each round in each group. And you actually get the same potential for final round collision that you do in a group of 3, since there is an idle team in the last round.
If you're going to do that, you may as well go to 48 with groups of 6. Still takes 5 rounds of group play (same as groups of 5 with 40 teams) but now all teams in the group can play simultaneously in the last round.
I'm not sure they really want to add another 2 games and ~10 days to the event, but that would actually be a good format.
@@doktarr That is a good point, but it is slightly harder to fix matches in, because two matches are still played simultaneously. It still leaves the door open to a guaranteed elimination for the team not playing in the final round, because the managers will know how many points their team will need at minimum to guarantee elimination for the idle team.
I’m still confused about matches taking place in three countries. Where will the final be hosted? Will the competing squads not have to move around once we get through knockout rounds? Say for example your team advances past knockouts, would you have to go to another country to watch their matches?
We had better have good security after the Uruguay Columbia match. I doubt we will ever use riot geared soldiers as it would look bad for US Media but they gotta make sure. And NO tailgating! Oh and Tac you and 11 Yanks are my fave media guys for this sport.
I can’t stand when people say “smash the like button” lol
I always downvote when I hear that just so you know!!
Watch Brazil's group once again be Serbia, Switzerland and an African country
I'm worried about how the knockout round looks with having 3rd place teams in, who plays who? Cuz I feel like euro cup has that but it's not very good on how teams are spread out, it's uneven and seems like some teams may be matched up unfairly
That is a legitimate concern, but it has to be considered in context. FIFA has expanded the WC to enable more countries - especially from outside Europe - to have a realistic chance of qualifying and - in exchange for the worthy policy - we have to accept some not exactly perfect features in the WC final competition format.
Yes same Problem. Hence, new Format is still shit.
It's the same algorithm they used in 86/90/94, and it did work. All 8 qualified 3rds go against eight preselected 1sts, with a predetermined choosing order so every 1st always play a 3rd from a different group. The other 4 1st play 2nds, and the remaining 4 matches are 2nd vs 2nd.
@@JCCyC letting the 3rds through is just bullshit, how can it be fair to compare teams who had complety different opponents?!
And btw A Team in group L would know exactly what result is needed to secure a spot for the last 32 (by getting through as 3rd and topping a Team from group A e.g.)
@@JCCyC and way too many games
When there were only 24 teams they also compared between groups for the 3rd place teams. It worked OK.
Match fixing happened in 1982 when West Germany beat Austria 1-0 to help both teams advance at the expense of Algeria. This led to FIFA to change the schedule to have the last 2 games simultaneously .
If we stick with the 2 teams per group advancing to the knockout, we could get 24 teams instead with the 24 dividing into 2 bracket which means we have a round of 12 for each bracket. Although there are some teams who'll be skipping some rounds, I think this should goes to the top scoring teams for their hardwork or the least scoring teams to give them a higher chance of having higher place in case they lose.
Thanks great video
I think in the round of 48(round1) 12 teams are selected as seeds according to FIFA rankings, 16 teams will be selected as seeds based on the score in the round of 48 teams(round2) Continuing like that, 8 will be seeded(round3).Then 4 teams will be seeded(round4). In rounds 1,3, and 4 are based on the FiFa rankings.Finally, there is a random draw for semifinal! 10:11 10:11 10:11 0:17 5:34 8:44 9:52 0:25
The 1982 World Cup was the site for Match Fixing between Wesr Germany and Austria to eliminate Algeria based on goal differential.
My format:
8 groups of 6, top 2 advances to the knockout stages and when third place is tied, they will have a playoff to win the bronze group stage prize
Another suggestion is to have four tiers of world cup with 16 teams per cup, becoming 64 teams. Example
2027: tier 4
2028: tier 3
2029: tier 2
2030: tier 1
The top 8 from tiers 2 to 4 will be promoted up to play the next tier next year.
The bottom 8 will be relegated.
The rest of the world will play qualifiers for tier 4.
Suggested format 8 groups of 6 teams each.
Each team plays 5 games at group stage. Last game of each group played together. So 3 matches happening simultaneously.
Top 2 teams of each group enter round of 16. The two teams from each group are placed in separate halves.
From round of 16 similar to earlier or 2022 World Cup format.
Total 120 league games and 16 knock out games.
Advantage - can recover after some upset.
Winner would have to play a total of 5 league & 4 knock out games total of 9 games
Under the 12 groups method the winner would play 3 league & 5 knock out matches. Total 8 games but mentally same taxing with 5 group & only 4 knock out games.
Total games under 12 group format is 72 plus 32 games so 104 in all. There would be 136 games under my proposed format.
Honestly best format would be 12 groups of 4,
Top 2 of each group go straight to knockout stage (24),
3rd place teams are seeded to play each other, whoever wins goes to knockout,
and then you have a 32 team knockout stage to play.
I feel like this format could make for really good underdog runs as 3rd place teams go off to the quarter or even semi finals. Plus it adds more meaningful matches to the tournament.
The 3rd place teams playing each other would only get you to 30 teams for the knockout stage (6 winners from 3rd place games).
My idea for the group format will be 8 groups of 6 with 1st place qualifying and 2nd/3rd place going to a preliminary round were they play one game against a team that was not in their group and finished in a different position to theirs. And the winners of those matches will qualify for the round of 16 as usual.
I think I'm smart.
One major advantage of a third place team going through is that if you get 6 points you’re basically guaranteed to go through
Imagine it was treated like March Madness lol. Single elimination style games leading to the final. Sure it'd be incredibly short but I feel like we could get some huge upsets and tons of drama the whole way.
That wouldn't divide properly since it is 48 teams
Groups of 4 is best. Nothing better than the drama of 2 games at the same time
Is there an online course that I can take to be able to understand this😅
THE FORMAT KEEPS THE 4 TEAMS GROUPS, and the better third placed teams qualifying for the second round
I’d love to see 8 groups of 6. Top 2 go onto the round of 16.
Every team plays at least 5 games instead of only 2 in the projected format. Plus you can still recover from a bad game which is much harder in 3 team groups.
Way too many group stages matches but why not try at least
I would make it a eight groups of six with the top two teams in each group going to the round of sixteen
Great euro qualifies 2008 used 7 teams and 8 teams per group so go for it 😂
I would say your A utter spastic
I thought of a round of 48 replacing the round of 32 and a round of 24 replacing round of 16 then the round of 12 semi-finals, and finals stage that has 3
I still think that two group stages is the best sollution. 12 groups of 4 in first one and 2 best placing teams advance further. Then 8 groups of 3 and group winners advance to the knockout. The number of played matches overall and matches played per team still will stay the same
Under the 8 group of 6 teams each the drama would be very high as 3 games ( all 6 teams from a group ) would be played at the same time so multiple permutations & combinations are possible.
I really hope they change to the alternative format with 12 groups of 4 and 36 advance. More countries would get to see their teams make it to the knockout stage, and byes are no fun because they benefit the teams that are already most likely to go all the way.
I know this is highly unlikely but It'd be a dream come true just to see Dominican Rep. in the world cup someday.
The ideal would be: First and second division world championship, consecutive points, with 24 countries each division and played through 4 years, games back and forth on FIFA dates, with the rise and fall of 4 countries, to be elected the world champion. At the end of the 4 years, the World Cup with both divisions, 48 teams. The current World Cup is no longer electing the best team on the planet and does not allow direct confrontation between the best teams in the world, the classics, which will become more difficult to happen with more teams. How long has it been since Brazil played in the word cup against England, Argentina, etc.? It's all about business 💰 and without classics the audience drops 💸 💸.
it’s called world cup not world lesgue
I think FIFA should consider a play-off round for the 3rd teams
Do you think Australia will want to go back to the OFC with this new format, or will they just let New Zealand qualify almost automatically for the WC?
They won't. There is zero value of beating American Samoa 31-0. On top of that they are good enough to qualify in Asia with that many spots. Their biggest problem is that they have been mediocre for years and now they could easily qualify being mediocre. So, they don't have any incentives to improve.
P.S. On the side note, without Australia OFC shouldn't even exist. FIFA should force these guys to merge with Asia.
@@ivanpetrov5185 OFC existing and getting a spot is a scam. That said, many of the small island nations might find it very difficult to afford flying to Syria every second game. The crazy distances involved do make it seem a bit impractical to merge them.
@@adavidavis2762 You are well aware the AFC qualifications are on geographical principle, don't you? There is no way the OFC nations fly to Syria. The whole Middle East and Iran will be closed to them. They will fly to Australia, Japan, both Koreas and the likes. Which is still a lot of travel, but not even close.
@@ivanpetrov5185 The 2022 FIFA World Cup qualifiers literally had Guam and Syria in the same group...
@@adavidavis2762 just regionalize the early qualifying rounds as its slim chance any of the island teams will ever get out of those early rounds anyway. Have Australia move back to Oceania but have the OFC as still part of Asia tournaments and qualifying where only the top two teams in Oceania move on to qualifying and playing tournaments within Asia.
The format i came up with seems to be really competitive and the most fun in my opinion but at the same time it can be a bit confusing to explain but it would be Group vs Group for example Group A vs group B and each group has 3 teams in it so let me explain
Group A
Usa
Ghana
Ukraine
Group B
England
Senegal
Colombia
Usa Ghana and Ukraine will play 3 games against England Senegal and Colombia then the top two teams with the most points from each group will play againsy Each other. Further example
Usa vs England 1-1
Usa vs Colombia 0-0
Usa vs Senegal 1-0
USA 5PTS
Ghana vs England 0-2
Ghana vs Colombia 1-1
Ghana vs Senegal 0-1
Ghana 1 pts
Ukraine vs England 0-4
Ukraine vs Colombia 0-1
Ukraine vs Senegal 0-1
Ukraine 0 Pts
Usa 5
Ghana 1
Ukraine 0
So Usa will play against Ghana because they were the 1st and 2nd place then in group b it would be
England 7
Senegal 7
Colombia 5
England vs Senegal in the knock offs