I think that is Tommy. I have studied this scene to no end for my own amusement, and it looks like ot could be Tommy, because Chris' costume in this scene was like a red jacket. It looks like this figure has on whiter clothes. And also, if you look at the way Sue reacts when this person climbs onto the platform, it looks like she is reacting to someone she loves being killed. I could be wrong, but the way the moment is played musically, it is meant to be the last and most meaningful death. And also, the way Carrie moved, using both of her arms, and faced the person means that this person is meaningful to her in some way.
@@justinball5651 It’s definitely Chris. I asked Charlotte about it in a Q&A ages ago and she confirmed and that she came up with the contortion at the end. Tommy is last seen carrying Ms. Gardener off stage when she passes out. Chris is def wearing her red ensemble when she begs, the one that was changed to white to match everyone else when it moved to Broadway.
The dress they used in this production is so different! I cant really see it but i love that its a bit different that the "usual" a-line floor length dress
Dang! I always forget how this scene is so stunning. I'm in love with the orchestrations of this version! The guitar always gets me into it. Btw I take it the script is from the London work script? This staging makes more sense, knowing what Cohen and the rest were imagining as opposed to translating the other adaptions into what's happening in this version. Edit: No wait, it’s the 1986 script, right?
It could either be the ‘86 script of the first London script. I know that the script from Scott Wise (One of the ensemble dancers) that was made public omits this scene, which is strange.
@@christengraves4012 I think that they took it the wrong way...I think they thought they were talking abt the show flopping but they actually meant the students who dumped blood on her head
I love the destruction, but there are two things that bother me about it- First, the scrim works to shield Sue from the destruction, but it makes everything inside really hard to see. Why did they put it there? It just makes the inside of the inferno really dark and hard to see. Second, there should have been more for Carrie to do (i.e. actually singling out people to kill and an altercation with Chris, etc) because the orchestra plays under her just pointing her fingers around for like a minute and a half. This works in a film cuz you can have close-ups and various other shots of what is going on mixed in so you don't realize Carrie is just standing there, but if you really want to make this scene work, it has to be that she is actively doing things that keep our attention. In the La Mirada production, they did this beautifully, and had her single out people and systematically kill them. While the effect is horrifying still in this version, it would have looked better if she played an active role rather than just standing on the pedestal pointing around.
I agree the scrim is irritating, but i think it was more easily seen-through in-person & is worse for us viewing by video. It's effective at putting Sue *outside* to be the lone survivor to meet Carrie at the end. And i agree to your second point too, except i think it's what we are missing from video-vision making the actions vague. ❤ Because i love it so much, I'm now less-irritated (by what i don't see) than i am so grateful the footage exists at all &is here for us 🙏 💕 🏆
The Seattle production also did this really well. Those actors did a damn good job of looking like they were being thrown around by an invisible force and her directly snapping Tommy’s neck at the end was brutal.
What I never understood in the book and in the movies or the musical that the only person getting yelled at is sue and yet the other teachers don't try to stop whats happening around d them? In the show Billy is an adult and yet he's allowed to do that to Carrie physicaly I understand Chris but an adult who doesn't belong at a high school prom? Please?
they were hiding behind the scenes unnoticed i think, in the book chris and billy sneak along the rafters above the stage and in the film they hide underneath the stage, don't know much about the other films. teachers were probably just careless
Billy and Chris were hiding and because Sue had bullied Carrie before when she asked Tommy to take Carrie to prom Miss Gardner was suspicious that she was planning on messing with Carrie somehow. When Sue showed up at prom unexpectedly she assumed her suspicions were correct.
Very simple. Chris is banned from the Prom which is what sets off a lot of the revenge tactics from Chris. Because of that and in addition to the fact they are about to do something horrible they are hiding. Sue just wanted to quietly see if Carrie was having a good time and the prom she was missing so she slipped in and tried to hide in the shadows to observe. When she realized something was up she started approaching the stage not realizing she was exposing herself. Miss Gardener saw Sue approaching in that slow manner and assumed she showed up because Her Boyfriend was at the prom with Carrie and suddenly became jealous, in spite of it being her idea. Since she just won Prom Queen Gardener didn't want Sue making a potential scene which is why she acted so strongly. Billy is not an adult it's just that Travolta looked older.
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This whole scene is everything.
2:01 literal chills omg
I love how Chris begs for mercy at the end and Carrie says “not tonight”.
I think that is Tommy. I have studied this scene to no end for my own amusement, and it looks like ot could be Tommy, because Chris' costume in this scene was like a red jacket. It looks like this figure has on whiter clothes. And also, if you look at the way Sue reacts when this person climbs onto the platform, it looks like she is reacting to someone she loves being killed. I could be wrong, but the way the moment is played musically, it is meant to be the last and most meaningful death. And also, the way Carrie moved, using both of her arms, and faced the person means that this person is meaningful to her in some way.
@@justinball5651 It’s definitely Chris. I asked Charlotte about it in a Q&A ages ago and she confirmed and that she came up with the contortion at the end. Tommy is last seen carrying Ms. Gardener off stage when she passes out. Chris is def wearing her red ensemble when she begs, the one that was changed to white to match everyone else when it moved to Broadway.
@@justinball5651 tommy is the first to die. That actually is part of the trigger that sets her off
i think her every get it right ever hear vocals are the best everrrr
Thank you for the upload
The dress they used in this production is so different! I cant really see it but i love that its a bit different that the "usual" a-line floor length dress
Imagine watching this live
*”NOW BILLYYYYYYYYYYY! NOWWWWWWWWW!”*
OH crudddd
Dang! I always forget how this scene is so stunning. I'm in love with the orchestrations of this version! The guitar always gets me into it. Btw I take it the script is from the London work script? This staging makes more sense, knowing what Cohen and the rest were imagining as opposed to translating the other adaptions into what's happening in this version.
Edit: No wait, it’s the 1986 script, right?
It could either be the ‘86 script of the first London script. I know that the script from Scott Wise (One of the ensemble dancers) that was made public omits this scene, which is strange.
@@thebranchanthony I think it's the 1984 version.
Absolutely love your content. Do you have the full show remastered this way? This looks incredible compared to the full show that’s uploaded.
The descriptions 👌
Bone chilling
It was at this moment that they knew, they fucked up...
This is everything! Shut up
@@lorenbennington4952 I meant when they dumped blood on her and she killed everyone??🤨Geez, did you have a bad day at work or something??
@@christengraves4012 I think that they took it the wrong way...I think they thought they were talking abt the show flopping but they actually meant the students who dumped blood on her head
@@kinhngbui Yeah, I liked the musical too. It was what I was going for LOL Talk about blind fury.
They knew, oh they *knew*
I love the destruction, but there are two things that bother me about it-
First, the scrim works to shield Sue from the destruction, but it makes everything inside really hard to see. Why did they put it there? It just makes the inside of the inferno really dark and hard to see.
Second, there should have been more for Carrie to do (i.e. actually singling out people to kill and an altercation with Chris, etc) because the orchestra plays under her just pointing her fingers around for like a minute and a half. This works in a film cuz you can have close-ups and various other shots of what is going on mixed in so you don't realize Carrie is just standing there, but if you really want to make this scene work, it has to be that she is actively doing things that keep our attention. In the La Mirada production, they did this beautifully, and had her single out people and systematically kill them. While the effect is horrifying still in this version, it would have looked better if she played an active role rather than just standing on the pedestal pointing around.
I agree the scrim is irritating, but i think it was more easily seen-through in-person & is worse for us viewing by video. It's effective at putting Sue *outside* to be the lone survivor to meet Carrie at the end. And i agree to your second point too, except i think it's what we are missing from video-vision making the actions vague. ❤
Because i love it so much, I'm now less-irritated (by what i don't see) than i am so grateful the footage exists at all &is here for us 🙏 💕 🏆
The Seattle production also did this really well. Those actors did a damn good job of looking like they were being thrown around by an invisible force and her directly snapping Tommy’s neck at the end was brutal.
interesting that Shelly actually was called Norma in the script
LASERS comes out of her fingers.
What I never understood in the book and in the movies or the musical that the only person getting yelled at is sue and yet the other teachers don't try to stop whats happening around d them? In the show Billy is an adult and yet he's allowed to do that to Carrie physicaly I understand Chris but an adult who doesn't belong at a high school prom? Please?
they were hiding behind the scenes unnoticed i think, in the book chris and billy sneak along the rafters above the stage and in the film they hide underneath the stage, don't know much about the other films. teachers were probably just careless
In every version including the film Billy is a high school student like the rest of them. Sorry.
Billy and Chris were hiding and because Sue had bullied Carrie before when she asked Tommy to take Carrie to prom Miss Gardner was suspicious that she was planning on messing with Carrie somehow. When Sue showed up at prom unexpectedly she assumed her suspicions were correct.
Very simple. Chris is banned from the Prom which is what sets off a lot of the revenge tactics from Chris. Because of that and in addition to the fact they are about to do something horrible they are hiding. Sue just wanted to quietly see if Carrie was having a good time and the prom she was missing so she slipped in and tried to hide in the shadows to observe. When she realized something was up she started approaching the stage not realizing she was exposing herself. Miss Gardener saw Sue approaching in that slow manner and assumed she showed up because Her Boyfriend was at the prom with Carrie and suddenly became jealous, in spite of it being her idea. Since she just won Prom Queen Gardener didn't want Sue making a potential scene which is why she acted so strongly. Billy is not an adult it's just that Travolta looked older.
Has this been pitch corrected? It sounds higher than the other recordings I've listened to, like it's about a semitone higher.
is the woman in front on her knees supposed to represent Sue?
Yes, that is Sue looking at the destruction in despair.
During the end of Alma Mater you can see Sue running in behind Billy.