Regarding Zenith as a Company: I recently bought a Zenith Chronomaster original 38mm (GEN 1) and had to send it back to zenith for some service. I was greatly impressed with their customer service. Definitely a "Tier 1" experience, and converted me into a believer. Re-fabbed my whole watch for $200, and returned in perfect condition, running +1 sec/day. My only wish is that they make more 38mm watches!!
@@dibtojyoti10 hello! The service was $200 and they replaced all of the hands, 4 screws, and repaired one of the plates. They also did a quick polish. I received the watch with all of the old parts as well, including the original sapphire crystal, which they must have had to break to do some of the service. The service took 2 months due to parts availability. The place that I bought the watch from was a reseller, and the watch was pre-owned in mint condition (as far as I could see at the time), and had just left warranty. The damage was caused by the reseller's jeweler, so I sent it to Zenith to set it right. Zenith knew all of this and was very generous in fixing the problems they caused. Rolex would not have been so kind, and would have likely refused to service the watch, as has happened to many of my friends. I was very impressed with Zenith. Also, I used the east coast service center in Springfield NJ USA.
@@johnm5131 Most other brands would charge multiples of that price, if they even agree to do the service. That sounds like an amazing experience, congrats on the watch! That specific piece is on my list
Oh my God what a beautiful time piece. I've never heard of this one and how lucky I was to have watched this first on your channel with those pretty camera works
@@Sojourner88 Well, not exactly. Seeing in person give you totally different perspective. Shame he didn't put on a rubber strap, metal bracelet is good but full expression is on rubber strap. Looking dial through the glass you will notice some serious stuff also they execute the date very well. As I said in video it is not possible to capture lots of details.
Great video! Completely agree, I was disappointed when the Defy Classic was discontinued as I preferred this originally. Although, having tried a skyline on in an AD recently, the design and the steel on the wrist converted me!
The new mint green dial on the recently announced Skyline 36mm is so gorgeous. I really hope they bring it in 41mm. Would be an instant buy. Love this new colour!
This Zenith is not *for me* but I do like it! The 10 second small seconds is quirky and unusable, but I like that it's different. Great video and humor as usual.
Looks good on wrist! But imho it would look even better with some text in bottom half of dial (‘defy’, ‘skyline’ or something) for balance. Also prefer without the sub-seconds at 9 tbh, like the Classic.
Great video as usual for a watch that I used to like in pics but as I've just seen its crazy seconds hand on coc.. Nespresso! - it's a no-go from my side. The little stars on the dial make me think of the Pittsburg Steelers - which is not that positive too (but it's one of those things that once you see, you can't erase from your mind). Thanks Evan!
Always a joy your videos. Nice watch by the way. Honestly, I'm a fan of integrated bracelet watches, but I believe that using butterfly clasps really cheapens the whole package.
Or Iwc pilot bracelet, Glasshutte also does it... Formex even has on the fly adjust on regular butterfly clasp. There's many ways to do better than this
great price, and I like that I'd be able to wear it, unlike the other integrateds. edit: I'd like it with three hands, PLUS the gimmicky sub second dial. Or two sub dials. Then it would have some of the chrono heritage that goes with El Primero, and it would be something for those people that run their chronographs just to see the hand(s) moving, without being wrong in/for doing so.
@@YoureTerrific most of them landed on Grey market and prices increased. Also due to everything that is going now (I'm from Poland and inflation is 18%, gas prices are skyrocketing etc) I do not want to make that kind of purchase now.
As always, very nice video. Don't really like how it looks like on its own, but surprisingly it looks very nice on the wrist. But that subdial? Nah, would make me anxious.
Have you upgraded your mic? Might be crazy but your voice is coming through in better detail - either way, appreciate it! Great video too. Love this watch.
I am a vast Zenith fanboy, but I can't get my mind around this watch. Besides the silly bracelet (no half links, no fine adjustments, and no on the fly... forget about it) why this mini 10-sec hand? It's like, yeah, I even don't have a metaphor because it's too silly. But indeed a nice looking watch.
Great review as usual but that mad running seconds dial... doesn't actually really tell you at any point what the actual seconds are at since you have to gauge where the minute hand is between minute markers. We can super precisely never tell you what the exact time is.
I think they took a step back with this model. A 4-Pointed star motif on the dial despite that zenith star is 5 star. And then a small second counter that’s high beat (okay cool) but only counts 10 seconds and not 60. The old Defy did it better. This is too much trying to be an AP even with its bezel design. I really enjoy zenith as a brand but this one is a miss
Hmm. I’m sure it’s worth the money, but at that price point there are other options I’m interested in. If this was in the 3~4k range it’d almost be a no brainer. There’s enough that’s objectively cool and interesting to justify a purchase. Subjectively it’s just….cool. Erm….hectocoolo
Downgrade in every aspect from the Defy Classic (to me). Seems like the Classic wasn’t a hot seller & they wanted to change things up but failed to do anything but chase trends. I don’t think this design will stand the test if time
12mm thick with only 100m of WR is a shame. A Sub is similar and has 300m of WR. The Aqua Terra has 150. If they got this down to 10mm thick, I'd be in.
@@saodavi6267 thinness is the whole point of the integrated bracelet design. It is the factor that makes it not only sporty but elegant as well. A 12mm thick nautilus would look ridiculous
Cool watch, fun gimmick, fun design... great watch if you have a fairly fleshed out collection and money to burn. I picked up a very nicely finished IWC, an in-house precious metal trimmed Oris for me and a diamond studded Oris for my gf for the same money.
Weird how we all see things differently. I saw the dial as a bunch of squished up circles, not 4 point stars. This observation means nothing more than I observed it.
Great piece but am no fan of butterfly clasps. I'd love to have seen them put one on of the minimalist clasps of an IWC Mark piece or GO SeaQ, but I think that's patented by Richemont.
Zenith need to dump this and release a new classic sunburst blue dial made from stainless steel, 37mm and microadjust or halflinks for the bracelet. Perfection
Would be a much better watch with a 4hz beat rate and longer power reserve (and service interval since the movement isn't trying to tear itself apart). I mean that sub seconds reminds me of those silly baseball caps with the spinny propellor on top. A bit of a gimmick.
I love this watch and if it had a normal second hand I would have purchased it by now. Im kind of a function over form kind of guy. Yea, it needs to look good but if it serves no purpose at all I just cant bring myself to like it.
@@YoureTerrific I’d rather have a standard clam clasp if it means I get adjustments. Here in Virginia we get super hot summers and cold winters, my wrist is like an accordion
Five sided crown? It's a pentagon crown. I expected a higher consistency. So disappointing... But I guess it's all Greek to you. 😜 Cool watch though...
@@YoureTerrific nothing is official until it’s official but I recall their CEO announcing the skyline with teddy or watch advisor and he said “oh course, we’ll have the skeleton, as well.” Time will tell but a skeletonized el primero in that case?? Oh man, oh man.
My brain hurts with this watch. It desperately needs a seconds reset function, since it's really hard to stop the watch at the 10 given the speed, and why 10 seconds? Why not 30? 20? It's confusing why there would be ZERO half links or adjustments in the bracelet. This feels like a complete failure and yet I still like the looks.
My favourite Casioak mod so far
🤣🤣
Spat my tea out! Brilliant!
Just a pity they are different shapes and Zenith had this shape well before the AP Royal Oak was a thing.
Worst Casioak mod is the AP Royal Oak
Lmaooo
As an owner of this watch, this review is 100% spot on. Well done.
Regarding Zenith as a Company: I recently bought a Zenith Chronomaster original 38mm (GEN 1) and had to send it back to zenith for some service. I was greatly impressed with their customer service. Definitely a "Tier 1" experience, and converted me into a believer. Re-fabbed my whole watch for $200, and returned in perfect condition, running +1 sec/day. My only wish is that they make more 38mm watches!!
how much did the service cost if i may ask?
@@dibtojyoti10 hello! The service was $200 and they replaced all of the hands, 4 screws, and repaired one of the plates. They also did a quick polish. I received the watch with all of the old parts as well, including the original sapphire crystal, which they must have had to break to do some of the service. The service took 2 months due to parts availability. The place that I bought the watch from was a reseller, and the watch was pre-owned in mint condition (as far as I could see at the time), and had just left warranty. The damage was caused by the reseller's jeweler, so I sent it to Zenith to set it right. Zenith knew all of this and was very generous in fixing the problems they caused. Rolex would not have been so kind, and would have likely refused to service the watch, as has happened to many of my friends. I was very impressed with Zenith. Also, I used the east coast service center in Springfield NJ USA.
@@johnm5131 Most other brands would charge multiples of that price, if they even agree to do the service. That sounds like an amazing experience, congrats on the watch! That specific piece is on my list
what great timing. I started lusting after this watch about 2 weeks ago. almost exactly when i found your channel! :)
Oh my God what a beautiful time piece. I've never heard of this one and how lucky I was to have watched this first on your channel with those pretty camera works
Zenith is class, i was mesmerised by the second hand whizzing around on expresso power
Love your videos!
This is my favorite integrated bracelet type of watch, never handled one in my hands, but I love its charm.
Absolutely love the watch, silver dial is my favourite. Great video again mate 👍
I have this watch.
Pure perfection, especially on the rubber strap.
That’s a nice PRX homage.
@@Sojourner88 Well, not exactly.
Seeing in person give you totally different perspective.
Shame he didn't put on a rubber strap, metal bracelet is good but full expression is on rubber strap.
Looking dial through the glass you will notice some serious stuff also they execute the date very well.
As I said in video it is not possible to capture lots of details.
Great video! Completely agree, I was disappointed when the Defy Classic was discontinued as I preferred this originally. Although, having tried a skyline on in an AD recently, the design and the steel on the wrist converted me!
Dial and bracelet taper is just gorgeous.
Love your humour, its like watching a stand up on my favourite hobby.
God I love this channel and the sharp comedy statements in the videos 😁🙏 !
This is serious business. No laughing allowed. Or aloud.
@@YoureTerrific 😂😂
@@YoureTerrific Understood Sir 😂 ! Tips for next review - new Speedy 57 would be awesome 😎👊 !
Amazing. Was searching for videos on this watch and you upload it just a few hours later! Great job as always
Please feel free to carry on with the humour in the videos. Loved them !
One of your very best videos yet! Well done, thank you!
I was just starting to look for videos about this watch last week!
Glad that you posted this now!
Another watch that shows the reason so many people love tissot prx, good spec, great dial and affordable
Man, I love the BGM selection in your videos.
The new mint green dial on the recently announced Skyline 36mm is so gorgeous. I really hope they bring it in 41mm. Would be an instant buy. Love this new colour!
Working in healthcare- I can see value out of a 10 second rotation for taking pulses.
This video brought joy to my life.
Thank you!
“Making the watch…six more better” killed me
Is this Girard Perregaux Laureato’s twin? 🧐
I have this watch and I love it. If only it had slightly smaller dimensions and a 60 sec sub dial instead of 10, it would be perfect to me.
What size wrist? I’m at 6.5” and sounds like that might be stretching it with this watch. But it’s beautiful!
This Zenith is not *for me* but I do like it! The 10 second small seconds is quirky and unusable, but I like that it's different. Great video and humor as usual.
Just saw this watch on the wrist of a friend. Love it!
Love this watch!
Love your vids. I always feel like they’re like David Sedaris doing watch reviews.
Love Sedaris
Looks good on wrist! But imho it would look even better with some text in bottom half of dial (‘defy’, ‘skyline’ or something) for balance. Also prefer without the sub-seconds at 9 tbh, like the Classic.
Great video as usual for a watch that I used to like in pics but as I've just seen its crazy seconds hand on coc.. Nespresso! - it's a no-go from my side. The little stars on the dial make me think of the Pittsburg Steelers - which is not that positive too (but it's one of those things that once you see, you can't erase from your mind). Thanks Evan!
Nessuno deve pensare dei Pittsburgh Steelers. Non si fa bene.
Genuinely the best independent watch person on this darn site
Who me?
Funny, I had this watch on a list of candidates for my next purchase, next to the Omega Worldtimer and "a" spring drive Grand Seiko.
I started at a mighty fine, but that’s where it ended mate.
Great vid as always Evan, always learn a thing is two.
7” wrist, got ya…☺️
Always a joy your videos. Nice watch by the way. Honestly, I'm a fan of integrated bracelet watches, but I believe that using butterfly clasps really cheapens the whole package.
What'd the alternative for a bracelet like this? Single folder-over?
@@YoureTerrific something like in the ALS Odysseus, not too bulky but with on the fly adjustement. That would be the cherry on the cake
Or Iwc pilot bracelet, Glasshutte also does it... Formex even has on the fly adjust on regular butterfly clasp.
There's many ways to do better than this
@@marvinberwart Exactly
“Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn’t work, you can always hit them with it.”
-Boris the Blade
The second hand comment at 5:48 had me dying 🤣
Yeah way nicer in person than expected.
Thanks! Great video, I have enjoyed! Best watch chanel on YT.
Keep those Greek derivations coming! I love the Defy, but need to see this is person, as you suggest.
I agree, I will wait until they make it in green. A bit more lively color would be nice.
great price, and I like that I'd be able to wear it, unlike the other integrateds.
edit: I'd like it with three hands, PLUS the gimmicky sub second dial. Or two sub dials.
Then it would have some of the chrono heritage that goes with El Primero, and it would be something for those people that run their chronographs just to see the hand(s) moving, without being wrong in/for doing so.
I still regret not buying sceleton Defy Classic when I had the chance. That watch is remarkable!
I'm sure there are plenty out there still.
@@YoureTerrific most of them landed on Grey market and prices increased. Also due to everything that is going now (I'm from Poland and inflation is 18%, gas prices are skyrocketing etc) I do not want to make that kind of purchase now.
As always, very nice video.
Don't really like how it looks like on its own, but surprisingly it looks very nice on the wrist. But that subdial? Nah, would make me anxious.
HOlistic indeed. Great video and I love your sense of humor 👍
Yeah, novadys every watch brand have some kind of Royal Oak hommage available when the original is for most unavailable. 😀
Have you upgraded your mic? Might be crazy but your voice is coming through in better detail - either way, appreciate it! Great video too. Love this watch.
Bought a Zenith dress watch for a great deal last year (from an AD). Way too many people sleep on this brand
I am a vast Zenith fanboy, but I can't get my mind around this watch. Besides the silly bracelet (no half links, no fine adjustments, and no on the fly... forget about it) why this mini 10-sec hand? It's like, yeah, I even don't have a metaphor because it's too silly. But indeed a nice looking watch.
Nice video. Good luck seeing how many seconds off a day your watch is without a timegrapher
Maybe that’s the whole idea. Clever, Zenith, very clever.
Multiply the daily accuracy by number of days since last set 🤪
The dial looks like a bandaid to me. I can’t unsee it.
Absolutely Beautiful ! If One were to Forget the hype..this is a way better steel then the over hyped and over priced Ap or rolex.
Great review as usual but that mad running seconds dial... doesn't actually really tell you at any point what the actual seconds are at since you have to gauge where the minute hand is between minute markers. We can super precisely never tell you what the exact time is.
I don’t care how derivative the design is, or how useless the spinning seconds hand might be - it’s a sexy looking watch and that’s all that matters.
This guy gets it.
Thank you for the Greek derivations. ;)
You make watch collecting fun
WOW I love this watch!!!!
This is my grail. Almost bought the white but decided to wait and find own second hand if it ever happens.
I have the skeleton version of this watch, and that one is even better IMO!
Homage to a RO / Laureato?
this watch is cool in my opinion. i just wonder what the recommended service intervals are, once a year?
I think they took a step back with this model. A 4-Pointed star motif on the dial despite that zenith star is 5 star. And then a small second counter that’s high beat (okay cool) but only counts 10 seconds and not 60. The old Defy did it better. This is too much trying to be an AP even with its bezel design. I really enjoy zenith as a brand but this one is a miss
Well he did mention that Zenith did the whole Hex like bezel before A.P
Thanks for this review, great macro shots and lighting. Zenith really (10x) needs to improve its bracelet designs. They're deal breakers for me.
I love my defy skyline
I would love this in full ceramic!
Could happen (for twice the price).
Hmm. I’m sure it’s worth the money, but at that price point there are other options I’m interested in. If this was in the 3~4k range it’d almost be a no brainer. There’s enough that’s objectively cool and interesting to justify a purchase. Subjectively it’s just….cool. Erm….hectocoolo
first minute: haha, I feel you :) I have the DEFY in blue, I really don't know why... I've no idea 😅
"You can do anything ten seconds at a time!" -Kimmi Schmidt
I prefer the old round bezel, but the new dial is nice
Downgrade in every aspect from the Defy Classic (to me). Seems like the Classic wasn’t a hot seller & they wanted to change things up but failed to do anything but chase trends. I don’t think this design will stand the test if time
12mm thick with only 100m of WR is a shame. A Sub is similar and has 300m of WR. The Aqua Terra has 150. If they got this down to 10mm thick, I'd be in.
You don't need more than 100 for a watch like this.
@@YoureTerrific but you do need less than 12mm thickness with a watch like this
@@Armoer Exactly. The GP Laureatto and Cartier Santos pull this off just fine at 10mm. Complete with 100m and an integrated-style case.
@@saodavi6267 thinness is the whole point of the integrated bracelet design. It is the factor that makes it not only sporty but elegant as well. A 12mm thick nautilus would look ridiculous
I have a tissot-next will be GS/Omega or Zenith... having a hard time deciding.
Absolutely amazing video as always, love it!
Fuck, Zenith really does some amazing watches.
Maybe someday..
They do. I'm sorry about that.
Cool watch, fun gimmick, fun design... great watch if you have a fairly fleshed out collection and money to burn. I picked up a very nicely finished IWC, an in-house precious metal trimmed Oris for me and a diamond studded Oris for my gf for the same money.
Can't bring myself to like this shape, especially royal oak. Either square or round please
It’s not well known, but if you are looking to time something I think Zenith makes chronographs.
They do?!
@@YoureTerrific Mmmm. I didn't know either 🤔😉
Any ideas on how to get this at a reduced price?
Nice PRX ya got there chump
Nice Pelagos on the wrist...LHD ;)
When are we done with prx homages?🤷🏼♂️
Weird how we all see things differently. I saw the dial as a bunch of squished up circles, not 4 point stars. This observation means nothing more than I observed it.
I see that sometimes, kinda annoying
It seems pretty good if you don’t have integrated bracelet fatigue like I do. The ever present wit and good balance (& linguistics) got me through.
0:18 Nice LHD! 👍
Thanks!
Great piece but am no fan of butterfly clasps. I'd love to have seen them put one on of the minimalist clasps of an IWC Mark piece or GO SeaQ, but I think that's patented by Richemont.
Zenith need to dump this and release a new classic sunburst blue dial made from stainless steel, 37mm and microadjust or halflinks for the bracelet. Perfection
I have it. I love it. I wear it.
Would be a much better watch with a 4hz beat rate and longer power reserve (and service interval since the movement isn't trying to tear itself apart). I mean that sub seconds reminds me of those silly baseball caps with the spinny propellor on top. A bit of a gimmick.
I love this watch and if it had a normal second hand I would have purchased it by now. Im kind of a function over form kind of guy. Yea, it needs to look good but if it serves no purpose at all I just cant bring myself to like it.
I love it
It’s nice but a couple thousand more and I could get a GP! What do you think?
I think you should buy whichever you like better.
What's on your wrist at the video intro?
Tudor Pelagos
Why oh why do they leave off bracelet adjustments when watches much much less (monta) make them perfectly?!
Hard to do with a butterfly clasp like this. Although VC did and Patek followed. So it’s doable.
@@YoureTerrific I’d rather have a standard clam clasp if it means I get adjustments. Here in Virginia we get super hot summers and cold winters, my wrist is like an accordion
From Fine To Fiiiiineeee!
Sometimes i wish that i had bigger wrists.
Cool, but I'll stick with 16 PRX's thanks
Five sided crown? It's a pentagon crown. I expected a higher consistency. So disappointing... But I guess it's all Greek to you. 😜
Cool watch though...
Loved it when I tried it on….but I can’t help to think that a skeleton is on the way which will be epic
I’d love to see that.
@@YoureTerrific nothing is official until it’s official but I recall their CEO announcing the skyline with teddy or watch advisor and he said “oh course, we’ll have the skeleton, as well.” Time will tell but a skeletonized el primero in that case?? Oh man, oh man.
I really like to look of the Skyline - but I just can't get over that second hand - drives me nuts and makes in unwearable in practice.
Tissot PRX vibes anyone ?
My brain hurts with this watch. It desperately needs a seconds reset function, since it's really hard to stop the watch at the 10 given the speed, and why 10 seconds? Why not 30? 20? It's confusing why there would be ZERO half links or adjustments in the bracelet. This feels like a complete failure and yet I still like the looks.