Great video but seemed more focused on playing with a loud band. There's obviously a big movement of singer songwriters who use, especially, loopers and delays to get a huge one man band kinda sound. So well worth doing another acoustic special focused on that kind of stuff.
I have remained quite an acoustic purist for quite a few years and recently, I have been putting together a pedal board for my acoustic guitars. I am discovering the joys of a MojoMojo and Spark Mini booster pedals, in addition to a delay and mini wah… so much creative fun! Thanks for all of your great reviews!
Dudes! I know this video is old . but Im so glad I came across it. I've been doing acoustic mostly solo for a few years . In fact my band just stopped playing and I put all my efforts into my acoustic thing. I've been using a pedal board with regular guitar pedals for years as now. Been using a looper for years too. Still using Boss super octave for looping bass and was using. Blues Driver to boost leads. Just bought my first Wampler pedal the Clarksdale to use on my Electric board. But low and behold, it works way good with my acoustic board and has kicked the Blues driver right off. This last weekend was having low end feedback problems during my looping sessions. I bet I accidentally hit the phase switch on my Martin that has the On board Fishman Aura system. Can't wait to watch the rest of this. I even go wireless with my acoustic and walking around the room jamming with and talking to the customer's!
One of the first cats I had ever seen switching between acoustic and electric live was Pat Metheny. He had been doing that from the '70s... I caught him live in the early '80s while in college. Collings Guitars are one of the most amazing consistently high-quality instruments in its class (~$5K USD). Next level up are Trauggot Guitars, but you're into $25K. Bill Collings was a friend and peer builder to one of my best pals. He introduced me to Bill at NAMM way before he passed from cancer. He was so full of life and a very friendly character. Cancer is a thief. We can all be glad that his company continues his standard of build, which is amazing good in both electric and acoustic instruments.
I've been playing effects with an acoustic guitars half my life...and I'm in my 50's,nice to see someone else's approach at it. I play mine through a Acoustic AG-60 with great sound, using acoustic/ electrics and acoustics with Dean markley pick-ups or Lace pick-ups. I use tremolos, reverbs, overdrives and loopers.
Mick, Dan, I enjoyed the info. One pedal I've found to be indispensable (particularly for acoustic instruments) is the Empress ParaEQ. It will allow you to "shape" the tone of your instrument with an insane level of variety and precision along with the ability to kill feedback, It's the best way to use one pedal to address all the various acoustic anomalies in your setup regardless of where you're playing. It's easy to get lost with all the other cool effects pedals out there, but don't forget to get that core tone down to precisely what you want wherever you're playing. The Empress ParaEQ does that in spades.
Want to get rid of the piezo quack: tc electronic Body-Rez. Makes your acoustic sound like a real acoustic through a PA. Amazing little pedal. Only 99 and it sounds like you've bought an acoustic amp worth 20000 quid.
Oh yes, definitely user of all kind of effects playing acoustic guitar ; with our trio for instance. I get it all from my acoustic zoom A2.1u. Marvelous ff pedal containing, chorus, delays, phaser, flanger, reverse delay, the works.
I actually think I like the sound of a phaser more with an acoustic guitar than I do an electric after seeing this! When I move back to Canada next month I'm definitely going to throw my acoustic guitar through my big board and see what it can do..
The biggest problem playing acoustic at a louder volume is feedback. You guys addressed the subject. But that answered it by buying a Yamaha pseudo acoustic.Dude, we have real guitars out there in the real world. And when you turn them up they Howel like crazy. I use a Fishman artist which has a phase switch and a notch filter. Plus a Digitech live harmony which has an active anti-feedback.This does help a lot with my Martin D 41 and guild J5 1212 string.I still keep a planet waves rubber plug for the sound hole For really problem situations.You need to address this problem if you’re going to talk about playing live at loud levels with an acoustic.Keep up the good work I love you Both
I swear by my Seymour Duncan "Woody XL" pick-ups. They're stacked humbuckers which slot into the soundhole on my Yamaha FG340II and my Crafter 12-String. I tend to only use a couple of effects (Chorus, Delay and Tremolo and now Reverb) but because it's a magnetic pick up it copes really well and I don't have any feedback problems. The tone is so "acoustic" that a sound engineer friend of mine mistook a direct recording from the pick-up for a well mic'd 12-String!
Funny seeing pedals I’d forgotten about like that AC, They come out so fast these days that when your predominant exposure to them is TH-cam videos (for purely budget reasons) they seem to change as rapidly as windows versions.
The LR Baggs Para-Acoustic DI is a great tool for playing acoustic guitar live, especially with an active pickup. Has a notch on it and gain and EQ controls. Like a personal mixer for your live acoustic tone.
Hey! Awesome show like usual. Maybe you could make a show comparing the various acoustic guitar di offerings. Like the LR Baggs Parametric DI for example and specifically looking at them when running a few effects through them. Just a thought for a future show maybe.
John Butler ! You should really check his stuff out if you like acoustic guitar with effects. He has a rig rundown on TH-cam, quite interesting thing. He runs his piezo stright into the PA and has a magnetic pickup that goes into a Marshall, controlled with a volume pedal.
Great great show, guys learning a lot! I'm just recently delving into pedals more, since I am more of a acoustic player. In my experience, I have found that playing through the Avalon U5 I get incredible warm sound with my acoustic ( which is also the CJ 35). I also use a reverberator for more ambient moments, Michael Hedges-esque sounds.
No delays, reverbs, choruses? Is it sensible to run a electro-acoustic through a regular guitar amp? What about skipping the preamp and using just the fx loop to amplify an electro-acoustic?
Bas Vredeling Electric guitar amps are specifically intended for electric guitars and they tend to emphasize mid-range. While you can certainly can run an acoustic guitars through one, you typically won't get the best ACOUSTIC tone that way. Since presumably the whole point of playing an acoustic guitar is sound like one, dedicated acoustic guitar amplification usually works best. On whether or not you need a pre-amp, that depends on what kind of acoustic pickup you have, wiring, what amp you're running into, and what kind of sound you're satisifed with. (IE jamming in your bedroom is one thing. . .playing in front of a paying audience something else). You might be able to get away with this. . .you have to try it and see. But in GENERAL if you want the best ACOUSTIC sound, you'll want to run your signal through a pre-amp before altering it with effects.
Found this video last night.... never would have heard about that Yamaha guitar if it weren't for finding this video. Just ordered one. It's essentially an affordable hybrid guitar that leans more towards the acoustic side. Looks PERFECT for what I'm trying to do. Thanks for making this video!
@@TheGigRigDaniel are you still gigging with the Silent guitar? I just ordered one to hopefully solve the low freq feedback issues at certain gigs.. but concerned about playability moving from a Martin D15m dreadnought to such a slim "body" guitar
Hi guy's enjoyed the show but I think it's a different game when your going directly into the PA rather than those little acoustic amps I'd also like to hear how percussive that Yamaha huiyar is when your not playing with a drummer you have to create your own beat I'm thinking having no body the Yamaha might struggle with that Cheers Corie 😁
Hi guys, I just watched this video last week and loved it. I put a tube overdrive patch on my Firehawk in the chain for my acoustic, and it was Aces for a breakdown session. I would never have thought of using that, so thanks for the inspiration. I got a lot of comments of how creative the sound was.
I hope another time there would be na oportunity to talk about accoustic preamps - lr bags para di, session di, Fishman Aura Spectrum and how it is working with piezo mounted i solid body guitar and real accoustic instruments.
i'll probably buy a pickup for my nylon acoustic, and planning to use fuzz on it (because guitars are expensive ya know). I dont know if it will work tho.
I Wear A Fez Now Haha! Yeah, I've started incorporating a Boss SD1 into my solo set for that reason, it sounds amazing! Also OP a regular magnetic pickup won't work with nylon strings, you'll need a piezo system, I totally forgot to say that.
you guys should shootout different acoustic di boxes with effects! im looking to snag a LR Baggs Di and run pedals into it and try running to a soundboard or mabye an amp! love to see what you guys would whip up doing so.
The way to solve feedback live in a band is to use a compressor. It stops feedback instantly but also improves the sustain. I use it on acoustic and hollow jazz boxes. I also use a yamaha silent nylon guitar. It has built in reverb and chorus and zero feedback.
I just traded off my best Les Paul for 65 Gibson Dove, have the Fishman Tone Deq into a California Blonde with the additional Blonde on Blonde Powered Monitor, so I am not sure I need anything More then what I already have, but so few cover acoustics or pedals, effects used for them or their Amps, Great Work Guys
Thanks!!! I loved it! I am building acoustic guitars but that electric you have there is way beyond cool! Sort of like the electric violins. I swore that I would never build an electric guitar but I am so intrigued by yours, mostly the sound, that it is on my bucket list now. What do they use for pickup/pickups in it? Does it have any built in effects?
Hell yeah. Been doing this for a while now. Couldn't agree more. I have a Japanese Takamine (the tone is so good it's sick anyway!) and with a few light effects, omg. Everyone just loves it. I even add a touch of overdrive for a couple of the setlists solos and it's wonderful.
I like the point made early on. I've played Tanglewoods in the past, and they're not great on their own but they're pickups work great in a live setting! Really cool to see how these acoustics react to pedals
Are the phaser and trem from Mooer? They both sound fantastic! I have the ElecLady flanger, and I love it. I had no problem retiring the EHX Dlx Mistress from my board. As for the Yamaha: wow, quite surprised with how good it sounds. Thanks, guys!
Great demonstration! One question. Are you using Chorus at all? I'm getting ready to finally pickup an electric acoustic and thought Chorus would be one of the most important pedals to have? Thanks!
Been using Yamaha Silent guitars for 7 years now and I love them. Play it throught a Bose L1 w/B1 sub. For my overdrive I'm using a EH Soul Food. Which overdrive were you using in the video besides the AC+? Loved that sound!t 16:04. Which pedal was that?
Hi…I have the nylon version of the Yamaha silent guitar….can you suggest a pedal/s that might suit for some distortion or beefing up the sound for some blues finger style playing? I have a chorus on my amp (Marshall 30w acoustic) that I think sounds great that I can switch on and off remotely but I’d just like a few more options on sound possibilities…possibly a distortion pedal might not work with the acoustic amp but maybe I could toggle over to an electric guitar amp with a foot switch? Thanks
Great video... i have been running my acoustic guitar through JRAD Archer pedal for past 4 months. it sounds just awesome. if you have one lying around, please try it and let me know your experience. Another one i like is the Wampler Velvet Fuzz with the Fuzz completely turned off... What trem pedal do you use??
Try a Whammy pedal at 50% mix - seriously. An octave gives you faux 12 string. Also, you can pick an interval like 3rd, and 'bend' in-between major/minor 3rd as needed. It sounds like an other-world resonator lap-steel.
I was in a loud rock band playing big clubs where the lead guitarist insisted that I play my acoustic through his Fender Twin, which was a disaster. The Yamaha Silent Guitar - the weird one without the body that enters the video at about 8:00 minutes in - literally saved my life. My Taylor acoustic would start feeding back mercilessly once the Twin's volume go above 2 or 3, lol, but because of the lack of body resonance with the Yamaha Silent Guitar, problem solved and we were able to pull off the sound. Also, I found it interesting that you did not mention the LR Baggs Parametric DI (brown box) that so many guys use with Acoustics to dial in their tone when amplified, OR the plethora of other pedals designed specifically to work with acoustics. Perhaps another show is in order to address those specific kind of pedals? Finally, I've seen guys get some great tones out of amplified acoustics using a chorus pedal, which was not a pedal you demoed in your video either. Can also add a touch of grit for acoustic solos. Anyway, keep up the good work, cheers!
the collings/pure mini through the aer works nicely. Daniel, I'd love you to bring out your strymon mod gear and electrode compressor with the acoustic.
I'd love to see Dan explain why he likes or prefers certain modulation effects early in the signal chain. It's been mentioned during a That Pedal Show episode and I've seen it on the GigRig website. I'm obsessed with That Pedal Show! I want a G2 so bad I can taste it!!!
Piezo pickups seems rather pointless to get an "acoustic" sound. Might as well put a Nanomag or similar in your fav electric and get even more blend options in one package. For home use, recording and unplugged sessions acoustics come into play. Not sure about the K&Ks though and how much colour they transmit from the box to apm/PA, ie. if a Collins makes a significant difference to a generic budget western...
knucklesprayer While you "can" run a nylon string instrument through any effect, presumably, the whole reason you're playing one to begin with is because you like its tone/dynamics and are interested in fingerstyle playing. In that particular context, there are only certain effects that make sense. Good rule of thumb is, if it will sound good with an acoustic or clean electric, it will probably sound good with nylon. Setting matters too. Solo instrument is one thing, acoustic ensemble something else, and electric ensemble something else again. IE, if you're accompanying a synthesizer and distorted electric guitar, you may have more leeway for effects. I've tried nearly every effect out there on nylon and my favorite effect is just a hint of compression and reverb, and nothing else. Compression just helps even out the tone, and a tiny bit of reverb simulates a room with good acoustics. A little chorus or delay might be OK. IMO with stuff like phaser/tremolo/wah/flanger/ping-pong delay its easy to go too far. Again, depends on how much you use and in what context. If you're asking about distortion on nylon, I've tried a whole bunch and I don't generally care for it. Slap enough distortion onto a classical guitar and the tone is effectively indistinguishable from a distorted electric guitar. So why not just play one? Certain overdrives can be interesting, because (like with an electric guitar) you can get dynamic-driven tone changes. EG play soft and you get an acoustic tone, but play harder and you start to get some distortion "edge". In the right context that could be useful.
Y’all should check out John Butler, if you’ve haven’t already. He’s a fellow Australian (I am not, however. So I’m not sure if he gets the proper recognition I think he deserves over there or not.) When Grand National came out like 10 years ago and I heard Devil Runnin’, etc., it changed my approach to the guitar forever. Saw him live too, he splits out (like 2 1/4 inch cables out into pedals, into separate amps) Marshall stack cranked and a cleaner type fender combo. He uses a volume pedal for each amp and will blur between the two for full feedback/distortion/wah/delay or the crisp clean 11-string sound. His Grand National stuff is a good example of this, and most influential to me. Sunrise over seas, and April uprising were also very enjoyable. Anyway, love the video, as always! Thanks
I'd love to see you talk about Univibe Pedals and Muff pedals. The JHS Muffaleta is a new cool one. I hope I'm not suggesting things that have been done before.
Thanks for the shows, always interesting. My one comment on this edition is pertinent to the choices in demonstration. There are devices such as the Aura D.I. and other pedals conceived to improve the sound of an acoustic guitar. That would be more practical.
I also really like the Yamaha silent guitar series, and own the nylon string version. I strongly believe that in a live situation with loud volume it would be hard to distinguish it from an actual acoustic, and it might even sound better. But still, often the audience wants to see an acoustic guitar as much as hear one...
Actually, I have found it to be quite the opposite. Whenever I play my Yamaha silent guitar (steel) at a gig, people are fascinated by it and it draws a lot of attention.
I’ve always pronounced it pea-zo… My first overdriven sound and attempt at creating an amped up acoustic as an early teen, was to chuck a cheap microphone into the sound hole of my classical guitar, plugged into an old amstrad tape deck, turning up the VU levels with the deck on pause and the tape deck linked to my Wem Amp… 🤣🤣🤣
The eye contact at 19:17 was adorable, you can tell that’s pure love between them.
One band that stands out for me that mixes in acoustic with some heavy stuff is Opeth, and they are absolutely worth listening to.
+Wayland C Hell yeah! Opeth is amazing!
Great video but seemed more focused on playing with a loud band. There's obviously a big movement of singer songwriters who use, especially, loopers and delays to get a huge one man band kinda sound. So well worth doing another acoustic special focused on that kind of stuff.
I have remained quite an acoustic purist for quite a few years and recently, I have been putting together a pedal board for my acoustic guitars. I am discovering the joys of a MojoMojo and Spark Mini booster pedals, in addition to a delay and mini wah… so much creative fun! Thanks for all of your great reviews!
I want to know more about preamps and compressor pedals with acoustics guitars plugged in :-)
Dudes! I know this video is old . but Im so glad I came across it. I've been doing acoustic mostly solo for a few years . In fact my band just stopped playing and I put all my efforts into my acoustic thing. I've been using a pedal board with regular guitar pedals for years as now. Been using a looper for years too. Still using Boss super octave for looping bass and was using. Blues Driver to boost leads. Just bought my first Wampler pedal the Clarksdale to use on my Electric board. But low and behold, it works way good with my acoustic board and has kicked the Blues driver right off. This last weekend was having low end feedback problems during my looping sessions. I bet I accidentally hit the phase switch on my Martin that has the On board Fishman Aura system. Can't wait to watch the rest of this. I even go wireless with my acoustic and walking around the room jamming with and talking to the customer's!
PLEASE ask Phil Keaggy to guest on acoustic effects. He's tremendously inventive with pedals.
Video starts at 9:35 they TALK SOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!
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thanks man, nearly left the video:D
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Thanks for that. Why do these people waist so much tine. Get to it!! U just saved me 9 mins of my life. Feel like i should give u 10 bucks!! Cheers
Guys, you should do a "part 2" episode with this topic. I would try to focus on reverb, chorus, delay and maybe a POG.
One of the first cats I had ever seen switching between acoustic and electric live was Pat Metheny. He had been doing that from the '70s... I caught him live in the early '80s while in college.
Collings Guitars are one of the most amazing consistently high-quality instruments in its class (~$5K USD). Next level up are Trauggot Guitars, but you're into $25K. Bill Collings was a friend and peer builder to one of my best pals. He introduced me to Bill at NAMM way before he passed from cancer. He was so full of life and a very friendly character. Cancer is a thief. We can all be glad that his company continues his standard of build, which is amazing good in both electric and acoustic instruments.
videos like this are why I love youtube, thanks guys
Mick: I'm so glad to see other people using the K&K, it's a fantastic little pickup, plus it's so low-profile.
The quality has vastly improved over the last couple years.
I've been playing effects with an acoustic guitars half my life...and I'm in my 50's,nice to see someone else's approach at it. I play mine through a Acoustic AG-60 with great sound, using acoustic/ electrics and acoustics with Dean markley pick-ups or Lace pick-ups. I use tremolos, reverbs, overdrives and loopers.
Mick, Dan, I enjoyed the info. One pedal I've found to be indispensable (particularly for acoustic instruments) is the Empress ParaEQ. It will allow you to "shape" the tone of your instrument with an insane level of variety and precision along with the ability to kill feedback, It's the best way to use one pedal to address all the various acoustic anomalies in your setup regardless of where you're playing. It's easy to get lost with all the other cool effects pedals out there, but don't forget to get that core tone down to precisely what you want wherever you're playing. The Empress ParaEQ does that in spades.
Want to get rid of the piezo quack: tc electronic Body-Rez. Makes your acoustic sound like a real acoustic through a PA. Amazing little pedal. Only 99 and it sounds like you've bought an acoustic amp worth 20000 quid.
Best overdrive for acoustic in my opinion is TC Electronic Mojo Mojo. Unbelievably affordable and sounds killer
Oh yes, definitely user of all kind of effects playing acoustic guitar ; with our trio for instance. I get it all from my acoustic zoom A2.1u. Marvelous ff pedal containing, chorus, delays, phaser, flanger, reverse delay, the works.
I actually think I like the sound of a phaser more with an acoustic guitar than I do an electric after seeing this! When I move back to Canada next month I'm definitely going to throw my acoustic guitar through my big board and see what it can do..
I agree
TimothyPage06 That wasn't an acoustic guitar.
The biggest problem playing acoustic at a louder volume is feedback. You guys addressed the subject. But that answered it by buying a Yamaha pseudo acoustic.Dude, we have real guitars out there in the real world. And when you turn them up they Howel like crazy. I use a Fishman artist which has a phase switch and a notch filter. Plus a Digitech live harmony which has an active anti-feedback.This does help a lot with my Martin D 41 and guild J5 1212 string.I still keep a planet waves rubber plug for the sound hole For really problem situations.You need to address this problem if you’re going to talk about playing live at loud levels with an acoustic.Keep up the good work I love you Both
damn, you guys have come a looooooong way in just a few years.
I swear by my Seymour Duncan "Woody XL" pick-ups. They're stacked humbuckers which slot into the soundhole on my Yamaha FG340II and my Crafter 12-String. I tend to only use a couple of effects (Chorus, Delay and Tremolo and now Reverb) but because it's a magnetic pick up it copes really well and I don't have any feedback problems. The tone is so "acoustic" that a sound engineer friend of mine mistook a direct recording from the pick-up for a well mic'd 12-String!
Still working out acoustic questions. Been fun going back to this old stuff.
Funny seeing pedals I’d forgotten about like that AC, They come out so fast these days that when your predominant exposure to them is TH-cam videos (for purely budget reasons) they seem to change as rapidly as windows versions.
Among the best guitar videos on YT by far
+JudgeFredd ah, cheers JF :)
The LR Baggs Para-Acoustic DI is a great tool for playing acoustic guitar live, especially with an active pickup. Has a notch on it and gain and EQ controls. Like a personal mixer for your live acoustic tone.
delay reverb and chorus are all i would use acoustic. trem is kinda cool in some applications. i wouldnt do OD/Distortion/Fuzz.
Hey! Awesome show like usual. Maybe you could make a show comparing the various acoustic guitar di offerings. Like the LR Baggs Parametric DI for example and specifically looking at them when running a few effects through them. Just a thought for a future show maybe.
This helped me out so much!!!! Used some delay and reverb wednesday and it made my guitar sound way better.
OK, I can't be the first to say this here: a bung mute is a great way to quell feedback in a guitbox.
John Butler ! You should really check his stuff out if you like acoustic guitar with effects. He has a rig rundown on TH-cam, quite interesting thing. He runs his piezo stright into the PA and has a magnetic pickup that goes into a Marshall, controlled with a volume pedal.
Great great show, guys learning a lot! I'm just recently delving into pedals more, since I am more of a acoustic player. In my experience, I have found that playing through the Avalon U5 I get incredible warm sound with my acoustic ( which is also the CJ 35). I also use a reverberator for more ambient moments, Michael Hedges-esque sounds.
Yeah, if your a plug in electric account if player pedals can really open up a whole new palette of sounds
No delays, reverbs, choruses?
Is it sensible to run a electro-acoustic through a regular guitar amp?
What about skipping the preamp and using just the fx loop to amplify an electro-acoustic?
Bas Vredeling Electric guitar amps are specifically intended for electric guitars and they tend to emphasize mid-range. While you can certainly can run an acoustic guitars through one, you typically won't get the best ACOUSTIC tone that way. Since presumably the whole point of playing an acoustic guitar is sound like one, dedicated acoustic guitar amplification usually works best.
On whether or not you need a pre-amp, that depends on what kind of acoustic pickup you have, wiring, what amp you're running into, and what kind of sound you're satisifed with. (IE jamming in your bedroom is one thing. . .playing in front of a paying audience something else). You might be able to get away with this. . .you have to try it and see. But in GENERAL if you want the best ACOUSTIC sound, you'll want to run your signal through a pre-amp before altering it with effects.
You can run an acoustic into a regular amp, but in my experience it sounds like butt
So if you want effects on an acoustic guitar start by buying a guitar that isn't really an acoustic guitar?
Found this video last night.... never would have heard about that Yamaha guitar if it weren't for finding this video. Just ordered one. It's essentially an affordable hybrid guitar that leans more towards the acoustic side. Looks PERFECT for what I'm trying to do. Thanks for making this video!
+boxcarguy07 you're very welcome ;)
@@TheGigRigDaniel are you still gigging with the Silent guitar? I just ordered one to hopefully solve the low freq feedback issues at certain gigs.. but concerned about playability moving from a Martin D15m dreadnought to such a slim "body" guitar
Hi guy's enjoyed the show but I think it's a different game when your going directly into the PA rather than those little acoustic amps I'd also like to hear how percussive that Yamaha huiyar is when your not playing with a drummer you have to create your own beat I'm thinking having no body the Yamaha might struggle with that
Cheers Corie 😁
Hi guys, I just watched this video last week and loved it. I put a tube overdrive patch on my Firehawk in the chain for my acoustic, and it was Aces for a breakdown session. I would never have thought of using that, so thanks for the inspiration. I got a lot of comments of how creative the sound was.
Looking forward to the looping episode. I already have a question that has been confounding me from the start.
Love the channel guys! I remember reading years ago that Alex Lifeson of Rush is credited with the live acoustic stand!
+WhatWouldHouseDo ah very cool, they guy is an awesome guitar player, love his stuff :)
Love these videos! maybe a suggestions for a future video, EQ pedals, where to put them and how to use them?
I really liked the guitar related stuff but some comments were annoying. Thank you for the guitar information.
Fantastic demo and great discussion. Thanks.
I hope another time there would be na oportunity to talk about accoustic preamps - lr bags para di, session di, Fishman Aura Spectrum and how it is working with piezo mounted i solid body guitar and real accoustic instruments.
i'll probably buy a pickup for my nylon acoustic, and planning to use fuzz on it (because guitars are expensive ya know). I dont know if it will work tho.
I'm curious about what it will sound like, I want to try but I don't have a nylon guitar
It'll probably sound a lot like Neutral Milk Hotel.
Nathan Howard yup, i bought an acoustic just for nmh, i already have a pedal board lol
I Wear A Fez Now Haha! Yeah, I've started incorporating a Boss SD1 into my solo set for that reason, it sounds amazing!
Also OP a regular magnetic pickup won't work with nylon strings, you'll need a piezo system, I totally forgot to say that.
the feedback will be legendary lol
you guys should shootout different acoustic di boxes with effects! im looking to snag a LR Baggs Di and run pedals into it and try running to a soundboard or mabye an amp! love to see what you guys would whip up doing so.
My acoustic board consists in tuner, very subtle delay and reverb. I don't like overdrive on acoustic.
Thanks for the great videos guys! Are there any updates on doing a looping-special over at the new channel?
The way to solve feedback live in a band is to use a compressor. It stops feedback instantly but also improves the sustain. I use it on acoustic and hollow jazz boxes. I also use a yamaha silent nylon guitar. It has built in reverb and chorus and zero feedback.
Recently discovered your TH-cam channel and it's without a doubt my new favorite. I also own an analogman king of tone and love it, Cheers!
I just traded off my best Les Paul for 65 Gibson Dove, have the Fishman Tone Deq into a California Blonde with the additional Blonde on Blonde Powered Monitor, so I am not sure I need anything More then what I already have, but so few cover acoustics or pedals, effects used for them or their Amps, Great Work Guys
Thanks!!! I loved it! I am building acoustic guitars but that electric you have there is way beyond cool! Sort of like the electric violins. I swore that I would never build an electric guitar but I am so intrigued by yours, mostly the sound, that it is on my bucket list now. What do they use for pickup/pickups in it? Does it have any built in effects?
You guys are amazing! Your team-up is harmonious! Thanks for your highly informative vids. God bless you more.
You didn't use the delay, that would have sounded the best!
Yeah, delay with acoustics does sound awesome
Delay.. obviously works with ... everything.... (drums incluided)
Hell yeah. Been doing this for a while now. Couldn't agree more. I have a Japanese Takamine (the tone is so good it's sick anyway!) and with a few light effects, omg. Everyone just loves it. I even add a touch of overdrive for a couple of the setlists solos and it's wonderful.
I like the point made early on. I've played Tanglewoods in the past, and they're not great on their own but they're pickups work great in a live setting! Really cool to see how these acoustics react to pedals
This is great. For some time I've hoped you guys would do more stuff covering bass pedals boards. Any chance of that!!
Jack White's Farm Fly Blues one off recording from just before White Stripes collapsed and its incredible. Amazing loud acoustic tones.
Are the phaser and trem from Mooer? They both sound fantastic! I have the ElecLady flanger, and I love it. I had no problem retiring the EHX Dlx Mistress from my board. As for the Yamaha: wow, quite surprised with how good it sounds. Thanks, guys!
Great demonstration!
One question. Are you using Chorus at all? I'm getting ready to finally pickup an electric acoustic and thought Chorus would be one of the most important pedals to have?
Thanks!
Yes chorus is a staple among acoustic electric guitarists
Been using Yamaha Silent guitars for 7 years now and I love them. Play it throught a Bose L1 w/B1 sub. For my overdrive I'm using a EH Soul Food. Which overdrive were you using in the video besides the AC+? Loved that sound!t 16:04. Which pedal was that?
Many Americans, myself included, pronounce it as "Pee-Eh-Zo."
Oh I just commented that!
Here we call it pizza 🇮🇹
Robstafarian yes there is no consensus on the pronunciation of piezo in the United States
Hey guys very cool video again! But I didn't get one thing. Is it better to have a passive or active pickup in a loud environment ? Cheers
Hi…I have the nylon version of the Yamaha silent guitar….can you suggest a pedal/s that might suit for some distortion or beefing up the sound for some blues finger style playing? I have a chorus on my amp (Marshall 30w acoustic) that I think sounds great that I can switch on and off remotely but I’d just like a few more options on sound possibilities…possibly a distortion pedal might not work with the acoustic amp but maybe I could toggle over to an electric guitar amp with a foot switch? Thanks
Great video... i have been running my acoustic guitar through JRAD Archer pedal for past 4 months. it sounds just awesome. if you have one lying around, please try it and let me know your experience. Another one i like is the Wampler Velvet Fuzz with the Fuzz completely turned off... What trem pedal do you use??
Surely just stick a rubber “Feedback Buster” plug in the soundhole and rock out! Worked for me last 35 years, playing loud acoustic.
what should be the ideal signal chain for Acoustic Pedalboard?
Try a Whammy pedal at 50% mix - seriously. An octave gives you faux 12 string. Also, you can pick an interval like 3rd, and 'bend' in-between major/minor 3rd as needed. It sounds like an other-world resonator lap-steel.
What is the best way for a beginner to learn about all the pedals and products out there?
So, where is that looping video y'all talk about at the end? I am about to get the simple Ditto Looper and was looking for some tricks.
When you started to use the loop pedal what chords where you playing, sounded great!
Hey guys great idea this time!
Yous should do a video on the difference between guitar sound in isolation and guitar sound in a mix.
Tadhg McDonnell-leahy yes, working on it!
You need to try out the new bodyrez from TC electronics gets rid of the quack and the feedback
loved the phaser but not sure about the overdrive....
The guitarist for Black Mountain uses his acoustic through a hi-watt often with fuzz.
Damien Rice uses so many drivers and they sound class !
Yess
Can you talk about overdrive stacking and the best way to stack. Either light to heavy or heavy to light. Thanks!!
Really useful stuff guys
I was in a loud rock band playing big clubs where the lead guitarist insisted that I play my acoustic through his Fender Twin, which was a disaster. The Yamaha Silent Guitar - the weird one without the body that enters the video at about 8:00 minutes in - literally saved my life. My Taylor acoustic would start feeding back mercilessly once the Twin's volume go above 2 or 3, lol, but because of the lack of body resonance with the Yamaha Silent Guitar, problem solved and we were able to pull off the sound.
Also, I found it interesting that you did not mention the LR Baggs Parametric DI (brown box) that so many guys use with Acoustics to dial in their tone when amplified, OR the plethora of other pedals designed specifically to work with acoustics. Perhaps another show is in order to address those specific kind of pedals?
Finally, I've seen guys get some great tones out of amplified acoustics using a chorus pedal, which was not a pedal you demoed in your video either. Can also add a touch of grit for acoustic solos. Anyway, keep up the good work, cheers!
What kind of acoustic is Dan playing ( the one with no body)
the collings/pure mini through the aer works nicely. Daniel, I'd love you to bring out your strymon mod gear and electrode compressor with the acoustic.
Hay Dan, does the Providence Chrono use a split signal? Think you recommended this effects for acoustics a while back now. Cheers x
What kind of guitar was that he put his hand through
And what about impulse responses for acoustic guitar?
I'd love to see Dan explain why he likes or prefers certain modulation effects early in the signal chain. It's been mentioned during a That Pedal Show episode and I've seen it on the GigRig website. I'm obsessed with That Pedal Show! I want a G2 so bad I can taste it!!!
Piezo pickups seems rather pointless to get an "acoustic" sound. Might as well put a Nanomag or similar in your fav electric and get even more blend options in one package.
For home use, recording and unplugged sessions acoustics come into play. Not sure about the K&Ks though and how much colour they transmit from the box to apm/PA, ie. if a Collins makes a significant difference to a generic budget western...
I've got a Zoom G1Xon for shits and giggles. Works well. Plugged my acoustic into it recently. Works pretty well.
Just love how you play and stare into each other's eyes, stay with someone who looks at you that way😍😍😍😏😂
Would love to see you guys doing a comparison of acoustic amps.
This it's a nice one!!! But how about Nylon strings guitars with effects?
knucklesprayer
While you "can" run a nylon string instrument through any effect, presumably, the whole reason you're playing one to begin with is because you like its tone/dynamics and are interested in fingerstyle playing. In that particular context, there are only certain effects that make sense. Good rule of thumb is, if it will sound good with an acoustic or clean electric, it will probably sound good with nylon. Setting matters too. Solo instrument is one thing, acoustic ensemble something else, and electric ensemble something else again. IE, if you're accompanying a synthesizer and distorted electric guitar, you may have more leeway for effects.
I've tried nearly every effect out there on nylon and my favorite effect is just a hint of compression and reverb, and nothing else. Compression just helps even out the tone, and a tiny bit of reverb simulates a room with good acoustics. A little chorus or delay might be OK. IMO with stuff like phaser/tremolo/wah/flanger/ping-pong delay its easy to go too far. Again, depends on how much you use and in what context.
If you're asking about distortion on nylon, I've tried a whole bunch and I don't generally care for it. Slap enough distortion onto a classical guitar and the tone is effectively indistinguishable from a distorted electric guitar. So why not just play one? Certain overdrives can be interesting, because (like with an electric guitar) you can get dynamic-driven tone changes. EG play soft and you get an acoustic tone, but play harder and you start to get some distortion "edge". In the right context that could be useful.
Hello, great Video! What Model is the Silent Guitar?
Hi Rolf, it's the new SLG200S, it's killer!
Why not a good reverb pedal? Important to me, because it give the too dry acoustic sound more 'life'. I never play amped acoustic without reverb.
Y’all should check out John Butler, if you’ve haven’t already. He’s a fellow Australian (I am not, however. So I’m not sure if he gets the proper recognition I think he deserves over there or not.) When Grand National came out like 10 years ago and I heard Devil Runnin’, etc., it changed my approach to the guitar forever. Saw him live too, he splits out (like 2 1/4 inch cables out into pedals, into separate amps) Marshall stack cranked and a cleaner type fender combo. He uses a volume pedal for each amp and will blur between the two for full feedback/distortion/wah/delay or the crisp clean 11-string sound.
His Grand National stuff is a good example of this, and most influential to me. Sunrise over seas, and April uprising were also very enjoyable. Anyway, love the video, as always!
Thanks
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If you’re interested, I reckon this will explain it better lol
For pedal board fun, with fewer feedback issues, try a nice magnetic. Fishman Neo or LRBaggs. Nuff said.
I'd love to see you talk about Univibe Pedals and Muff pedals. The JHS Muffaleta is a new cool one. I hope I'm not suggesting things that have been done before.
Please tell me that someone has posted up the video of Dan with hair? I need a link!!
Seems to me if you want to do this loud and reduce some of the issues, an Epiphone Inspired By "1966" Century might be a good starting point ...
Thanks for the shows, always interesting. My one comment on this edition is pertinent to the choices in demonstration. There are devices such as the Aura D.I. and other pedals conceived to improve the sound of an acoustic guitar. That would be more practical.
Hi !
Can you tell me what are the best steel strings when you want to change them ?
Thanks !
Dan, did you play on A Million Year Girl? I had that album and enjoyed it. Purple Flower was my favorite song.
I also really like the Yamaha silent guitar series, and own the nylon string version. I strongly believe that in a live situation with loud volume it would be hard to distinguish it from an actual acoustic, and it might even sound better. But still, often the audience wants to see an acoustic guitar as much as hear one...
Actually, I have found it to be quite the opposite. Whenever I play my Yamaha silent guitar (steel) at a gig, people are fascinated by it and it draws a lot of attention.
I’ve always pronounced it pea-zo…
My first overdriven sound and attempt at creating an amped up acoustic as an early teen, was to chuck a cheap microphone into the sound hole of my classical guitar, plugged into an old amstrad tape deck, turning up the VU levels with the deck on pause and the tape deck linked to my Wem Amp…
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