Also, here's a funny thing. He did apologize, but his apology is really bad. He said he was sorry for the mis. Information, but at the same time, he's not sorry because he didn't do a research over a series. He didn't care about
I see a lot of people hating on the monsterverse cause of various reasons, but the one i hear the most is that they aren’t “serious” Godzilla films… but they aren’t trying to be “Serious” movies with deep messages or plots. They are trying to be good action movies that people love to see, and i for one love every monsterverse movie, they are all great because they are all GOOD action movies, they have lore, and make me and everyone i know question how creatures could evolve and adapt into what they are now. The monsterverse is centered on the natural order, and nature, and Godzilla and the other Titans are embodiments of those forces. The films reiterate one of the core messages of Godzilla, That Nature is always more powerful than Man ever will be, and all we can do is learn to co-exist with Nature. The point i’m trying to make is that, The Monsterverse films aren’t the movies you want them to be, they are the films that they are trying to be, which are action films. The original Gojira along with Minus One and Shin Godzilla ARE the films you want them to be. You CANNOT compare two different movies from two different genres and call one stupid because it doesn’t conform to the standards of another. It doesn’t make sense.
You can compare them in terms of writing fundamentals. The monsterverse is a nonsensical pile of sludge covered vomit with no sense of continuity. It incorporates its themes poorly after Skull Island and the action becomes hot garbage after KOTM. I want them to be good and only 2 come close to being that. You can still be coherent, consistent and generally well written while being an action movie. Any and all attempts to excuse the current state of the monsterverse don't hold up.
@@Dragonzord571 i guess i’m just the kind of turn brain off watch big monsters punch each other type person that Legendary markets too… and i’m ok with that. At the end of the day your opinion, as long as it isn’t nonsensical hate mongering, or foundation-less lies that spread miss information. Is just as valid as mine, and i hope that we can both enjoy this franchise together. I hope my first comment on your channel hasn’t left a bad impression of me.
@@Dragonzord571Comparing Minus One and GxK (or the Monsterverse as a whole) is literally as nonsensical as you think the monsterverse is??? Theyre two entirely separate movies with separate goals as movies, GxK isnt trying to be Minus One Comparing them is bad faith criticism, which helps literally nobody.
Any thoughts on Blackarooni's take on the franchise He acts he's intellectually superior to those who likes both and thinks he's that guy proclaiming he " enraged the fandom" and is still doubling down about being called out to this very day
@@alexgomez6723 aside from his smug demeanor & his condescending attitude, he comes out as a cringe ignorant dumb*** that literally believes his views should be the ones everyone must view while claiming many Godzilla films are trash expect for 3 movies
@@alexgomez6723his smugness while talking down to people who enjoy the Showa, Heisei & Millennium Era's all while dismissing the messages that each one of them did tell.
Disagree with you on a point, Dr Skipper does not have the media literacy to provide a good or accurate reading of Godzilla (1954) or Minus One. All he does is regurgitate commonly held opinions about a 70 year old movie while still displaying he has no understanding of key themes and points
I'm starting to see a trend in videos like this one, I noticed it after watching Alastor Hackon's video on Godzilla. The trend is that people insist that the further away Godzilla got from his nuclear devastation allegory origins, the worse he got. The idea that his days of fighting other kaiju were a waste of time and turned him into a cheap action figure. I'm with you on this one, I don't mind when Godzilla is used as a prop in an action movie as long as the writing is good. I don't want Godzilla's rogues gallery of other kaiju to go unused or deemed unnecessary, I think they have a lot of potential. The Godzilla vs another monster style movie has worked before. Godzilla vs Biolantte, Godzilla 2000, GMK, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, and Godzilla 2014 are my examples of good Godzilla vs other monster movies.
I can respect you for not liking the Monsterverse, even if i really enjoy it, but i dont respect Skipper not liking it because of his lack of research.
In my opinion, people who think that Godzilla only works with a message are so wrong and doesn't understand the character. The MV, with flaws and all, is still fun, because Godzilla isn't just a walking metaphor where its all takens seriously. Godzilla in the MV has its metaphors, but a characterization, one that by only seeing him ln screen you get what he wants, as for the older films, they always talk to you what Godzilla is feeling or is doing. Godzilla for a long time has been a character and not just your homework about WW2's nuclear aspect.
I will give credit where credit's due, this guy's editing was a lot of fun. But literally all of his points save a few were awful and not well thought out
"This is why reading is important. It allows you to be correct." 😄 I could post this somewhere every day in YT comments! It's a dual problem: People who just assert things on the internet as fact because they heard or saw someone else say it & the people who believe them without even questioning if it's true, asking for their sources, etc.
As a Mega Godzilla fan who had seen every Godzilla movie more than once even the 1998 one I don't care where the Godzilla movie are made as long as its Godzilla
@Dragonzord571 but they're still fun watches that gave us iconic kaiju, scenes, and quotes. They are absurd in the best possible way. Don't act like Heisei or Millennium weren't weird and wacky as well, because they were.
And sometimes people don't like that. It's a matter if taste in this instance. "Fun" is hyper subjective. The Heisei era is a immeasurably worse, however. Godzilla vs King Ghidorah is contender for the worst Godzilla movie ever made.
Depends. He's been spot on from everything I've seen of him. As long as he's mostly correct, I see no reason to. My interactions with most people on the movie have been less than steller to say the least. I don't take what they have to say seriously.
@@Dragonzord571 Most of the controversy is actually about some kinda racist jokes he made in the review and some not so great responses he made to those jokes. It seems to me that there are 2 possible interpretations: 1) Big G fans chose to give him the benefit of the doubt, pointing out some flaws in his video and he responded badly or 2) Big G fans clicked on his video exoecting to hate it and clinged on anything that was easy to cling on to make him look terrible. Considering how defensive big G fans can get, I'd appreciate it if you could provide a more nuanced approach to this as someone who mostly agrees with Little Platoon. Heck, maybe you could turn my suggestion on its head and instead make a response not to Platoon but to the Big G fans if you wish and call out at least some if their stupid behaviour. Mind you, these are suggestions, so feel free to do whatever you wish. Plus, responses and coverings if stuff don't have to be exclusively or even just mostly negative.
@@vaggos2003 wasn't it Platoon's vid where they kept calling the hollow earth Iwi's....Indians as well as the movie answering his questions within his video and it gave the feeling that he wasn't paying attention? Or is that another youtuber?
@@GodzillaKyru Yes, we are talking about the same video. I didn't actually watch his video to be sure if the second question of yours is true, but the first one, yes, that one is indeed a controversy caused by the video. In my previous comment, I was focusing more on my guesses about the attitude some fans had approached the video with instead of the video's actual quality. If you're curious about any responses to that video, there is a Zimzilla podcast and a scripted response by C Animus for you to check out if you wish.
@@vaggos2003 Ah gotcha, I was just making sure because My brain likes to get things mixed up. I've def seen Zim's podcast of it, I do watch some of his stuff live.
Honestly, I’ve never liked the 2014 film in fact I actually think it might be my least favorite of the monster verse and I can see why other people like it since well it is grounded and Godzilla is really good in the movie For the most part it felt like I was sitting through a boring slog, but that’s just me
There's no clear goal for where the MV is now. When the MV started in 2015, retroactively making 2014 phase 0, Phase 1's goal was to get Godzilla and Kong to fight again which is what KSI, KOTM, and GVK led to. Phase 2 seems to be making the MV more of a franchise with the games and shows, but GXK doesn't have a clear goal to work towards.
Inconsistentancy in Godzilla's choices result in Kong living. Rather than rip his head off when dragged underwater like with Ghidorah, he wraps his tail around Kong and tries to drown him. The Hong Kong battle especially has stupid shit like Godzilla charging his atomic breath at close range rather than use his free hand to grab Kong. The atomic breath being string enough to push back Ghisdorah but not knock Kong out of the air. Godzilla moving his head with the ax in that stupid trailer shot. Hardly any sense of weight.
@@Dragonzord571 the hardly any weight thing well when the monster verse basically abandoned realism for goofiness I guess physics went out the door also how they mess up the lore
@@Dragonzord571 truth is the first part of the fights Godzilla was just messing with Kong after the whole ax ahead thing he started taking it seriously
@@Dragonzord571 Bro, the video is about a few months old at this point. Everything that needed to be said about this topic has already been said, move on already.
Also, here's a funny thing. He did apologize, but his apology is really bad. He said he was sorry for the mis. Information, but at the same time, he's not sorry because he didn't do a research over a series. He didn't care about
I see a lot of people hating on the monsterverse cause of various reasons, but the one i hear the most is that they aren’t “serious” Godzilla films… but they aren’t trying to be “Serious” movies with deep messages or plots.
They are trying to be good action movies that people love to see, and i for one love every monsterverse movie, they are all great because they are all GOOD action movies, they have lore, and make me and everyone i know question how creatures could evolve and adapt into what they are now.
The monsterverse is centered on the natural order, and nature, and Godzilla and the other Titans are embodiments of those forces. The films reiterate one of the core messages of Godzilla, That Nature is always more powerful than Man ever will be, and all we can do is learn to co-exist with Nature.
The point i’m trying to make is that, The Monsterverse films aren’t the movies you want them to be, they are the films that they are trying to be, which are action films. The original Gojira along with Minus One and Shin Godzilla ARE the films you want them to be.
You CANNOT compare two different movies from two different genres and call one stupid because it doesn’t conform to the standards of another.
It doesn’t make sense.
You can compare them in terms of writing fundamentals. The monsterverse is a nonsensical pile of sludge covered vomit with no sense of continuity. It incorporates its themes poorly after Skull Island and the action becomes hot garbage after KOTM. I want them to be good and only 2 come close to being that. You can still be coherent, consistent and generally well written while being an action movie. Any and all attempts to excuse the current state of the monsterverse don't hold up.
@@Dragonzord571 i guess i’m just the kind of turn brain off watch big monsters punch each other type person that Legendary markets too… and i’m ok with that.
At the end of the day your opinion, as long as it isn’t nonsensical hate mongering, or foundation-less lies that spread miss information. Is just as valid as mine, and i hope that we can both enjoy this franchise together.
I hope my first comment on your channel hasn’t left a bad impression of me.
Nah. You're good.
@@Dragonzord571Comparing Minus One and GxK (or the Monsterverse as a whole) is literally as nonsensical as you think the monsterverse is??? Theyre two entirely separate movies with separate goals as movies, GxK isnt trying to be Minus One
Comparing them is bad faith criticism, which helps literally nobody.
@@Dragonzord571 You're just a soulless asshole that doesn't know how to have fun. The way you play hunting horn alone is proof of that.
One of his joke making they nuke of hiroshima and nagasaki "turn that b*tch into fallout3" and "the only surviver is wolverine" is distasteful
Japan was wildin out they needed it
I like offensive jokes but there was no build up to it or any sense to it
Welcome to edgy humor. Can't take it? Yer just a pissy pants lmao
@@randothecrambo7842He didn't make a joke, he just laughed
@@Eclipse-1-z40you are acting like there isn't any boundaries to edgy jokes
Any thoughts on Blackarooni's take on the franchise
He acts he's intellectually superior to those who likes both and thinks he's that guy proclaiming he " enraged the fandom" and is still doubling down about being called out to this very day
His videos are just... Cancer. Pure utter cancer
@@faithslayer202Can you explain why?
@@alexgomez6723 aside from his smug demeanor & his condescending attitude, he comes out as a cringe ignorant dumb*** that literally believes his views should be the ones everyone must view while claiming many Godzilla films are trash expect for 3 movies
@@alexgomez6723his smugness while talking down to people who enjoy the Showa, Heisei & Millennium Era's all while dismissing the messages that each one of them did tell.
Disagree with you on a point, Dr Skipper does not have the media literacy to provide a good or accurate reading of Godzilla (1954) or Minus One. All he does is regurgitate commonly held opinions about a 70 year old movie while still displaying he has no understanding of key themes and points
I'm starting to see a trend in videos like this one, I noticed it after watching Alastor Hackon's video on Godzilla. The trend is that people insist that the further away Godzilla got from his nuclear devastation allegory origins, the worse he got. The idea that his days of fighting other kaiju were a waste of time and turned him into a cheap action figure. I'm with you on this one, I don't mind when Godzilla is used as a prop in an action movie as long as the writing is good. I don't want Godzilla's rogues gallery of other kaiju to go unused or deemed unnecessary, I think they have a lot of potential. The Godzilla vs another monster style movie has worked before. Godzilla vs Biolantte, Godzilla 2000, GMK, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, and Godzilla 2014 are my examples of good Godzilla vs other monster movies.
I can respect you for not liking the Monsterverse, even if i really enjoy it, but i dont respect Skipper not liking it because of his lack of research.
I literally lost track of what he was talking about half way through
In my opinion, people who think that Godzilla only works with a message are so wrong and doesn't understand the character. The MV, with flaws and all, is still fun, because Godzilla isn't just a walking metaphor where its all takens seriously. Godzilla in the MV has its metaphors, but a characterization, one that by only seeing him ln screen you get what he wants, as for the older films, they always talk to you what Godzilla is feeling or is doing. Godzilla for a long time has been a character and not just your homework about WW2's nuclear aspect.
Am I the only one that got annoyed by this video almost as much as the original video but for different reasons obviously?
Other reason for Godzilla to ignore the US Army: It's hardly unreasonable to assume that Godzilla is resistant to most Human weapons
Wingard: so this movie will not be that serious
And few months after the movie
Wingard: i already told you all, wtf?
I think that excuse has always been lame. It wants you to take it seriously enough.
I will give credit where credit's due, this guy's editing was a lot of fun. But literally all of his points save a few were awful and not well thought out
The Monsterverse movies are great.
Most of them are pretty bad
@@Dragonzord571 I disagree
Ok. There's still only 2 that you could call decent.
@@Dragonzord571Eh, I'd still call the first 3 pretty damn good.
The last 2 tho, boy, do I just agree with so much.
KOTM is still bad, but it's a lot more normal in its failures if that makes sense.
"This is why reading is important. It allows you to be correct." 😄 I could post this somewhere every day in YT comments! It's a dual problem: People who just assert things on the internet as fact because they heard or saw someone else say it & the people who believe them without even questioning if it's true, asking for their sources, etc.
1:57 Even though Jet Jaguar and King Caesar have japanese lyrics, Mothra doesn't its indonesian
My god this video still hurts to watch 🤮
This one or skippers?
@@TheChosenOne1098 skippers 😆
I'm a big fan of the monsterverse but I can see where the criticism of gvk comes from (not of Skipper)
Skipper thinks he’s O’Brien trying to gaslight Winston (us). Lmao
As a Mega Godzilla fan who had seen every Godzilla movie more than once even the 1998 one
I don't care where the Godzilla movie are made as long as its Godzilla
Didnt expect monster hunter in the backround of a godzilla video, thas cool
Man idc what anyone says I love the monster verse movies. Kinda sad they get hated on SO much
I mean....Bad movies tend to be shat on.
@@Dragonzord571 As do bad opinions. Case in point.
@@Eclipse-1-z40 ay you my goat fr
I just realized, that the MUTO's aren't Japanese, nor American... theyre Filipino citizens 😅
how ironic I'm actually from Philippines lol
Wait wait wait, Godzilla commentary over Monster Hunter gameplay? Where has your channel been?!
Someone dislikes the showa era...
It's understandable to not like it. A lot of those movies are pretty cheaply made, abuse stock footage and have some nonsensical plots.
@Dragonzord571 but they're still fun watches that gave us iconic kaiju, scenes, and quotes. They are absurd in the best possible way. Don't act like Heisei or Millennium weren't weird and wacky as well, because they were.
And sometimes people don't like that. It's a matter if taste in this instance. "Fun" is hyper subjective. The Heisei era is a immeasurably worse, however. Godzilla vs King Ghidorah is contender for the worst Godzilla movie ever made.
@@Dragonzord571 man, that's a wildly unpopular opinion, but it's yours, I guess.
Popularity is irrelevant to the fact that the movie becomes worse than nonsense.
Will you make a video or stream about Little Platoon's GxK review?
The Goji fandom and Twitter had a few things to say about that.
Depends. He's been spot on from everything I've seen of him. As long as he's mostly correct, I see no reason to. My interactions with most people on the movie have been less than steller to say the least. I don't take what they have to say seriously.
@@Dragonzord571 Most of the controversy is actually about some kinda racist jokes he made in the review and some not so great responses he made to those jokes.
It seems to me that there are 2 possible interpretations:
1) Big G fans chose to give him the benefit of the doubt, pointing out some flaws in his video and he responded badly or
2) Big G fans clicked on his video exoecting to hate it and clinged on anything that was easy to cling on to make him look terrible.
Considering how defensive big G fans can get, I'd appreciate it if you could provide a more nuanced approach to this as someone who mostly agrees with Little Platoon.
Heck, maybe you could turn my suggestion on its head and instead make a response not to Platoon but to the Big G fans if you wish and call out at least some if their stupid behaviour.
Mind you, these are suggestions, so feel free to do whatever you wish. Plus, responses and coverings if stuff don't have to be exclusively or even just mostly negative.
@@vaggos2003 wasn't it Platoon's vid where they kept calling the hollow earth Iwi's....Indians as well as the movie answering his questions within his video and it gave the feeling that he wasn't paying attention? Or is that another youtuber?
@@GodzillaKyru Yes, we are talking about the same video. I didn't actually watch his video to be sure if the second question of yours is true, but the first one, yes, that one is indeed a controversy caused by the video.
In my previous comment, I was focusing more on my guesses about the attitude some fans had approached the video with instead of the video's actual quality.
If you're curious about any responses to that video, there is a Zimzilla podcast and a scripted response by C Animus for you to check out if you wish.
@@vaggos2003 Ah gotcha, I was just making sure because My brain likes to get things mixed up.
I've def seen Zim's podcast of it, I do watch some of his stuff live.
What do you think of Monarch: Legacy of Monsters? Or do you plan to review the series?
XD wasnt expecting the Perturabo reference there at the end. Also nice to see another EFAP fan in the wild.
Will you review GxK?
Yes. When it comes to home video.
Which may come soon.
Godzilla works where he wants to..😂😂😂
Honestly, I’ve never liked the 2014 film in fact I actually think it might be my least favorite of the monster verse and I can see why other people like it since well it is grounded and Godzilla is really good in the movie For the most part it felt like I was sitting through a boring slog, but that’s just me
Ew you like mauler? That guy is a pos
I enjoy quality content and he's really not.
Piece of sGood content creator
FYI 1 out of 39 of the people watching this our on the spectrum like me you might want to stop using the r word. Other then that the videos fine.
As someone on the spectrum, I will use the word if I want.
@@Dragonzord571 ok it’s your channel dude.
Meanwhile, in the blotzwave section
Being forced to defend Godzilla vs Kong that must’ve been hard
For someone who dislike it
It's the easiest shit ever though lmao
especially coming from someone who dislikes the Monsteverse to begin with.*
(Which is fine by me.)
Marvel godzilla: the audacity of skipper.
But what is wrong with The Monsterverse??
Inconsistent world building, lack luster to mind numbingly awful characters, poor writing, no care for continuity.
There's no clear goal for where the MV is now. When the MV started in 2015, retroactively making 2014 phase 0, Phase 1's goal was to get Godzilla and Kong to fight again which is what KSI, KOTM, and GVK led to. Phase 2 seems to be making the MV more of a franchise with the games and shows, but GXK doesn't have a clear goal to work towards.
@@Dragonzord571toho had more awful characters
@@kasaibouF29 it's actually back in 2014.
@@MrWaSpY-Trn Source?
Godzilla!
No. Most of them are terrible.
@@Dragonzord571 Godzilla is awesome!
Ah shit. Wrong comment
@@Dragonzord571 I knew it!
Bullshit from either perspective the Monsterverse is, was n will always b awesome
Bad choreographic fight what are you talking about
The fights are terriblely constructed.
@@Dragonzord571 how please explain
Inconsistentancy in Godzilla's choices result in Kong living. Rather than rip his head off when dragged underwater like with Ghidorah, he wraps his tail around Kong and tries to drown him. The Hong Kong battle especially has stupid shit like Godzilla charging his atomic breath at close range rather than use his free hand to grab Kong. The atomic breath being string enough to push back Ghisdorah but not knock Kong out of the air. Godzilla moving his head with the ax in that stupid trailer shot. Hardly any sense of weight.
@@Dragonzord571 the hardly any weight thing well when the monster verse basically abandoned realism for goofiness I guess physics went out the door also how they mess up the lore
@@Dragonzord571 truth is the first part of the fights Godzilla was just messing with Kong after the whole ax ahead thing he started taking it seriously
I get it... You hate america, Skipper~ owo
Minus one doesn't work aswell too
Incorrect
12:29 LOL
...
This is such a dead horse
And?
@@Dragonzord571 Bro, the video is about a few months old at this point. Everything that needed to be said about this topic has already been said, move on already.
And it was 2ish weeks old when I started scripting.
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