My best advice after decades of riding: trust no one and constant vigilance. No one else on the road cares if you make it home or not. Ride like every other driver out there is an idiot and your life depends on you. Got me through a lot of years of commuting and road-tripping.
I heard something similar from a motorcycle riding instructor a few years ago while sitting in a McD's. He said "when you're on your bike on the street, just remember that about one-third or even one half of the car drivers out there probably want to kill you."
I had a BMW R-100GS I rode everywhere. To and from work, to and from my military drill weekends 325 miles away. After 320,000 miles riding through the Loma Portal Earthquake, snow storms over the Grapevine. Once the bike finally died, I had determined that 320,000 miles was enough. To ride any more was to tempt fate. I had used up all of my "Lucky points" .
I agree entirely about taking a motorcycle safety class. I had been riding 15 years before I took one, and I discovered several bad habits that needed to be corrected. Sure enough my riding improved. Good advice James!
I'd been riding a borrowed bike for a few years when I bought my first. 30 years old and as far as I could tell only needed a brake job to get road-worthy. Couldn't get the pistons to budge with any tools or techniques I had but $300 solved that problem. Go to change the oil and find out that the threads in the oil pan were basically stripped. Being old and not exactly the most common model, taking it to yet another specialty shop (going off of James' point, they were the only one around who would touch it) was going to be easier than sourcing and replacing the oil pan. Rode it for about a year after that when the first oil plug fix failed. Luckily I was able to take care of it myself the second time and cut my losses. Bought something only about 10 years old but low mileage and well taken care of and couldn't be happier. This all goes to reinforce what James said about not buying a project bike (unless you already have something to actually ride)!
I think any mature adult male with any reasonable responsibilities needs meditation time. I go bow hunting. Usually never take the bow off the hang. The problem with bikes for me is the other people on the road. So much distraction .
@@jtinnac1895 If you want to find one of those roads with no one else on it, just have one of your tires go flat or otherwise need assistance. You'll have the whole road to yourself.
I agree with most of your points. Maybe the only thing I would note is the commute home from work on a bike, is the best way to depressurize before I get home. Plus one on the course. Wife and I got our endorsement together. Great learning experience for us, eventhough she's a passenger.
+1 on used bikes. Most new bike sales are impulse buys from middle aged dudes. They usually end up on Craigslist, at very attractive prices, with barely broken-in miles. Regarding older bikes, I bought a 2005 Honda Shadow. No issues finding parts and service. Missus rides a 2008 Yamaha V-star. No issues with parts and service.
Been a licensed motorcyclist since 1971. I do at least one major trip a year which for me can be between 4K and 12K. Have only done 1 trip with another biker. That was the time I stopped by to see ya James. Just tend to like to be alone in my helmet, although have tried to hook up with you guys a couple times. Schedules just haven’t worked out. For me, I will “never” buy hard tires for my bike. I want secure traction in the corners and run dual compound tires always. My life is more important that getting a few more K out of shit tires. Hopefully we will hook up on the road one of these days James...ride safe!
Was approaching 40 and got a inch to ride. Took the course and got the endorsement on my license. One of the best decisions I’ve made. Riding requires 360 awareness 100% of the time....
When you ride a bike always count on the other drivers ( car drivers ) to do the wrong thing. Ride defensively because your life depends on it. I have 50+ years of riding bikes on the street and 16 years of racing them. I always ride defensively !
One book I recommend to everyone who rides is Twist of the Wrist 2 by Keith Code. While it's a book about racing the techniques and ideas more than apply to street riding. Has awesome mental and visual drills as well as teaching you about the finer points of counter steering and threshold braking.
I have to agree with you 100% on everything you pointed out in this video. I have been riding now for 15+ years and have learned quite a bit the hard way. I see it all the time where a noobie will go out and buy that new Harley, and in about a years time it ends up as a very expensive and quickly depreciating garage queen. They end up selling it or trading it in with a great loss. And of course there is also the person who has to buy the most tricked out bike they can find, thinking that will give them great pleasure, when most of the time it just ends up draining the bank account even further. I love riding my bike, but I really have to be alert all the time because auto drivers so often are distracted or simply don't see you, and even some hate bikers to the point they will go our of their way to make your ride a bad one. Lastly, take a motorcycle class! There is a wealth of information taught that just may save your life some day.
As a Rider myself I absolutely agree with all of your points. Fortunately I signed up for Harley Davidson Rider Academy and received a call informing me I won the class for free. I have Ridden over a decade and still left there a better Rider with a few more tools in the toolbox. I cannot travel due to taking care of a disabled parent and work 64 hours a week so I went with a 2019 Harley Breakout 114 and Stage 1 and customizations to “Make it Mine”. I absolutely love my Wind therapy and wouldn’t trade it for the world. “Buy the damn Bike” 😂. Thank you James for the 2 Wheel content. Now keep the rubber side down 🤘🏻
100% agree on the MSF course. I credit the course for keeping me safe out on the road. Thinking back to all the close calls I’ve had, the MSF course has saved my life more times than I can count.
Excellent advice! Thanks!! Riding is brutal. You will have your character built, be hit by bugs, go down on a small patch of brown liquid, face exposure, dehydration, windburn, sandblasting, the other drivers will make you shoot blood out of your eyes. Your right hand will get numb from gripping the throttle. Vibration varies; more with v-twins than sportbikes. Keep your tank full; doubly so on long trips. Don't take long trips.(Unless you think you're a real cowboy...) Weather will change, so be ready for all of it with adaptive and varied gear. There's nothing worse than freezing your ass off at night. You will deal with a condition known as Hot Cross Buns - your ass gets numb from long rides. Take the RiderSafetyCourse. I did and it saved my life more than once. Wear complete protective gear or get road-rash. That bike is a machine and it will kill you. Have fun.
Me and my friend ride together and we don’t have any comms but we just vibe and know what we’re doing you know... I agree with everything you said except with the splitting lanes in traffic to work or school( I live in Cali) it is VERY dangerous but my mind is so clear and there is nothing in my brain except the cars that could pull out and kill me at any second.
It's therapy. 99% of the time, I'm riding by myself. It helps me let go of a lot of things and clears my head. Shooting is the same. Focus and everything else disappears.
Hi James. If i may add to what you have said here, I am a long time rider, and a safety officer for my HOG chapter (Sunset #1814). Yes, take a riding class first. I see it happen all the time, someone will buy a bike (usually the wrong bike for them) and then it sits in there garage. That is the main reason for HOG, to get us out on the road in a group, which usually has some safety rules and there is safety in numbers. And do rent a couple of bikes to see what bike fits you best. Most Harley dealer will work on bikes that are older then five years, but usually they will go like 20 years. If your going to go the used route, I use a couple rules for what to avoid. 1) Custom bikes, unless your a tech and have a shop with all the tools, no, just no. 2) A bike that has had engine mods. In the Harley world, 90% of all engine problems are owner induced, your most likely buying someone else's nightmare. 3) Once you have found the bike you want to buy, take it ot the dealer and pay for a used bike inspection.That 150 bucks you spend now could save you thousands down the road. 5) You can also ask the dealer if they would sell you and extended warranty for this bike, after there service department has cleared, most dealers will be willing to do so, as it makes them money and they know it means you will be coming to therm for service, and you now have peace of mind knowing it is a good solid bike and if something goes wrong down the road, your covered. I ride mine to work all the time, but I take a route that has less traffic, and I can take a longer ride home to clear my head, what we call ride therapy. As to tires, I have a 2010 Ultra, you need to check your tire pressures at least every two weeks and keep them at the recommend pressure (On my bike 37 front and 40 rear). I am getting 18-22K out of my tires. I am running the Dunlop American Elite (www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/tire-what-i-ride/v-twin-tires/). These have the correct weight rating for Harley's and a duel compound for better cornering,
I have about 3 miles from my house to work and the best thing about riding to work is my hour lunch break.. I don't go for a ride every day but about once or twice a week I go for a spin and it breaks up my day beautifully... I come back in a great mood.. I agree about not always bringing it to work though.. if I didn't have 3 miles of backroads to travel I'd probably just drive my truck every day.
This may be the most accurate video I have seen you make. Everything you said was spot on. Especially about the cost of up keep versus a car or truck. Loved it.
I started riding 5yrs ago and it changed my life. No you shouldn't buy a motorcycle. Unless you should. Taking the class very first thing is wonderful advice. Started on a Honda Shadow 750 (now a project), and now have a Honda Valkyrie 1800. Good video, good advice. Protip on financing: Take the note to your credit union (and join one if you aren't) and save money on better interest rate. Also, don't buy my project bike.
All great advice, I hope many people follow your wisdom. Many people don't take a class, they buy their dream bike right off and drop their first bike in one month. I know people who take the class and learn on a one lung Harley, graduate then buy a v twin Harley and drop it on the street right off within a month doing a u turn because they still learning to balance the bike. Rental bikes and used bikes are very important. Also people don't realize that your tire contact patch on a bike is much smaller than a car, which changes how you stop and lean into a curve versus turn your handle bars and steer opposite of the turn.
Love my motorcycle and completely agree with all James' points. Before going for a bike, go get a jeep or some other convertible. They're way safer and give you the same top down wind in the face experience, plus you can actually use it for commuting.
This video clarified my prospective...but also convinced me to buy a bike. The meditation piece is really true for me and it was missing from my life after hanging up Motocross. I live in a rural area with perfect roads for riding. Looking forward to spring.
At age 16 i got my class L license. Rode a cb125 for about 8000 miles on back roads. Sold that little guy and have not rode in about 15 years. At age 42 i got the itch to get back on 2 wheels. This video popped up in my youtube feed, and wouldnt you know it James is imparting wisdom for free. Thank you James. Will be enrolling in a training course to refresh my memory and skills. Stay strong James love all your content man!
One of my favorite videos from you James! Absolute truth right there. Owning a bike is a big labor of love, but that time on the road is incomparable. We sure as hell don't do it for anyone but ourselves and our own piece of mind! Like my Dad use to say, "Just shut up and ride.". One of the greatest Zen moments I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing.
My motorcycle gets better gas mileage than my truck. By a long shot. But the funny thing is if I drive it to work I find its a way longer commute to work. Its 30 minutes to work in my truck. It takes me 3 times that to get to work on my bike...I don't drive slower either... Just way more miles. lol I agree on the class 100%. My dad hadn't ridden for a long time and we decided to ride to Alaska. So I took the class with him. I'd been riding for years before it too. Learned a bunch. Three trips to AK now in the books. riding = wind therapy
James, good advice. I’ve been riding 30 years, so 1964 to 1994. The reason I stopped was some stupid woman rear ended my 1965 VW wagon and that scrambled my brain and couldn’t ride safely. I started riding desert bikes in Hare and Hounds then after I got my bike license in 1973 I moved to street. Some of my friends were into the Cafe scene but that wasn’t me, at a young age I loved choppers. In 1974 I bought a 1948 Panhead in boxes, I taught myself simple engineering principles and took a welding class and got certified in 6G mig. Long story short I raked the stock neck 35 degrees from a 90, 12” over stock springers with a 21” front and a 16” rear, 6 bend pullbacks. Top speed was 90 mph but mainly did 65. I rode that bike everyday to and from work rain or shine and on the weekends rode to Ridgecrest from Huntington Beach, Ca. I am now 65 and would love to build another one, about my head... I was tested (on my own dime) to see if I am able to still ride and yes I’m good. As you eluded to I wouldn’t recommend any new rider to ride without a license or without a rider course. When I get the cash together (fixed income) I too will be going to a riders course. BTW I don’t do garbage wagons (this term was probably before your time, old school) I do low and slow is the way I roll. Biker forever!!
Sir I'm the guy that missed the opportunity to talk to you at Indy. I've been riding for ten years I started ridding to school when I was 17 on a ninja 636. You nailed it on the head. But like you said the helmet zen time is what I love most. I change my tires every 3000 but I ride aggressively in nc. I'm on a fz07 now. But I commute every day as well. But my dad does to and has all my life. I buried my best friend last year after he wrecked his bike leaving my house. I know the risks but I don't think I could keep my happiness without daily twist therapy in the summer and once a month in the winter!!! Great video and no bs!
Excellent advice. I rented motorcycles from Harley for a month before I bought. Started with a Sportster and worked up to a Limited by the end of the month. Ended up buying a BMW K160OGTL, but renting after I took my class at Harley was the best thing I ever did.
I never had a problem with worries about work when I was commuting. On the contrary, that was 40-60 minutes a day, 5 days a week that I didn't think about anything except staying alive from one moment to the next. It was very relaxing.
"Expense of owning a motorcycle" Not only tires but the drive train. After going through chains as much as tires, I swore my next bike would be shaft drive. The BMW R-100 GS goes through a drive line every 150,000 miles and it costs $750.00 to replace. Now that the "Air heads are out of production, drive lines if you can find one goes for $1200.00
I bought a project bike in 2015. My friend and I really enjoyed fixing it and its finally up and running. It was super fun, but dont buy a project bike because you want a bike or a cheap bike, buy it for a fun mechanical project. It is a headache at times.
another advantage to buying used if your a new rider is when you lay it down you won't feel as bad scratching up that $3000 used bike versus a $18000 new bike
I can't disagree, I walked away from a accident where I had to lay mine down at 35 mph when a dingbat pulled right out in front of me. I haven't been on a street bike since, maybe if I move to the cityfied area someday.
I ride for the exact reason you do I’ve been riding over half my life , my bike of choice for commute and fun is a Honda xr650L dual sport. I also ride a Kawasaki kx500 2stroke with my son.
I'm sure everyone has a similar story: I was turning wrenches at a motor couch/ limo company years back, and shortly after I left, one of the mechanics I worked with was rushing to get to work early on his bike and was hit by a car that "didn't see him". People rushing/raging to go to work and with the way everyone seems to be on their damn phones definitely adds risks.
Love riding. HATE riding to work on my bike. I ride from rural/suburban into urban and the traffic is awful. People in cars ride way too fast. They don’t signal. They don’t check blind spots. No thanks. I don’t need that additional stress just to get to a job that’s stressful enough. Live in the Milwaukee area. Been to Sturgis and back 3 times, no trailer. I’ve put my share of miles on.
I commuted on my street glide for a few years till one day someone didn’t like that I was lane splitting (California), and purposely tried to block me... ended up hitting me and causing me to wreck... broke my back in three places and will now live in pain the rest of my life.
Good points, James. Everybody should take an MSF course first. Then maybe test ride a few friends bikes of different styles to get a feel for how they handle. When you buy one, buy used. Buy something smaller and cheap. Take your time learning all the intricacies of riding... there's more to it than people think. Eventually, after you've mastered your small bike... move up to something bigger. Don't rush it. Wear a helmet and gear... always.
My klr 650 costs $20 to fill the tank and I get about 350km to a tank. My dodge Dakota costs $110 to fill and I get 550 km to a tank. I agree with what you are saying but a bike does get better gas mileage. Agreed on the cost of maintenance for a bike, however if you buy a simple bike like mine and repair it yourself , the expense is more than a vehicle but minimal. With that said, I only ride my bike when it is nice weather (I live in Canada), because it is a toy not my commuter. However how things are in this day and age, people are so busy. Sometimes if I don’t ride my bike to work I won’t get a chance to ride at all. Love your videos , sorry to challenge your points, I have much respect for u. I agree with most of your points. Only a couple things I disagreed with
I ride because I’ve been addicted to wheelies since I was 12 years old. Also only one of my bikes is street legal and I’ve had several close calls while commuting.
Edgar Bravo everyone starts somewhere man. Just know that if your getting into dirt biking it will be one of the greatest hobbies of your life but it will eventually lead to injuries. My dad still rides because everyone in my family is addicted despite having 3 knee surgeries, shoulder surgeries, and a permanently severed tendon in his right arm. He’s 55 years old and barely now considering getting a side by side or quad. Just ride careful and have fun while it lasts.
@@husky701rider9 Thanks! Soon I'll be addicted to doing mega dank woolies like you and having an amazing time. I hope you have a great afternoon! I'll be cautious. Take care!
I like the advice regarding using a motorcycle as your commuting vehicle. Never thought about what you talked about having a million things on your mind and it being more dangerous because you are not as focused. Good video. Thanks man.
I highly recommend the MSF rider course. If you learned from a friend or relative, good chance you learned some bad habits. The course will teach you good habits to take away and apply and use everyday! (Sounds like how your learned to shoot)
Surprised you didn’t mention don’t buy a beginner bike. But that kinda goes with renting a bike to find out what you would like. All good points though, wish I did this before I bought my first bike.
I used to ride my bike to work. One morning I saw the guy next to me eating a bowl of froot loops, milk and all, with both hands while driving. Even if you can be zen on your bike on the way home. The people in their cars drive stupid.
I rode a crotch rocket for years, even when I was in the Marines, loved the speed, BUT they are uncomfortable as hell. If you’re new to riding.... please please don’t get a crotch rocket to “start on” they are twitchy and your ego will get your ass killed or someone else.
The only other advice I would give folks is to EXPECT that every automobile you cross paths with will pull out in front of you. That way when one does your hand and foot are ready to break, that will save you about one second of reaction tome, which could be enough to save your hide.
Man this is a solid video. I’ve always wanted to get a motorcycle and was always hesitant, because I was unsure of a lot of these intricate details. This answered them all. Sound advice, Sir
Some great advise. Especially about the gas mileage. Though I used that to sell my wife on me buying a bike again, my five speed Vulcan Meanstreak gets worse mpg then the wife’s Taurus.
Have ridden for the past 15 years. Sold mine this year. It was sitting in my shop more than usual. I really miss the meditation piece of motorcycle ownership. I'm sticking with the decision to be bikeless for now but I'm pretty sure it won't be forever.
I’m really glad you came out with this video. I’ve been back and forth on some bikes. I’ve never thought about renting one. Going to take that advice. This video is a little different from your normal and i like it.
Started riding this month after taking the MSF course. I see lots of parking lot practice in my future, taking it slow and easy and enjoying it so far. Thanks for the sound advice.
I rode 18 years then I had my first accident! Spent 1 month in the hospital. That was 2007. I just bought another bike over a year ago! I li I've to ride!
I cannot disagree on any of this. As a matter of fact, being 58 yrs old, and having a bike since the age of 10, I sold my Harley Road king this summer. Too many distracted morons on the road. Maintenance cost is horrible on a Harley as well.
I rode for 9 years before taking my MSF course and I still learned a lot. I didn't get back on my motorcycle for about 3 months after the course because I thought I was Mr. Cool riding my motorcycle to the MSF course. After being on a motorcycle for about 8+ hours each day plus needing to ride back home afterwards, I got burnt out on wanting to ride lol.
As an old medic I believe that riding the bike is WAY more dangerous and deadly if you ride a lot even. I'm also not saying don't ride or own one, but know the risks. GREAT VIDEO with GREAT ADVICE, James. Our late son had a bike and kept it till he had his first seizure, then wisely sold it. He had one wreck where he had to lay it down as a guy ran a stop sign so he had to. Thankfully he had a great helment and heavy leather suit, but still had a minor fracture.
If you're back in Camden (I know you're traveling a lot) on the 28th and 29th of September, I'd love to talk motorcycles with you. Also, I'm still down with the stupid internet motorcycle stuff like lawn clippings and darkside. I'd love to see that become a thing. Enjoy your time in East Tennessee and safe travels to you and everyone else.
James have you taken the Experienced Riders Course? As far as an insurance discount, where is this law you speak of? My insurance companies said they don't offer a discount and when I took the experienced course the instructor said some companies offer a discount but not all... By the way I'm and active member of the MRO in my state and we teach the courses and promote rider education heavily, keep pushing the education/training aspect and keep the rubber side down.
Hayabusa, some aggressive ridding, 32mpg, rear tire 2,500 miles, front tire 6,000 miles $200 per tire, broke a $180 chain @6,000 miles. A economy car is cheaper ......
I tell guys to ride a bicycle in town and see how they feel being exposed to the world, if they dont like that they are probably not going to like a riding. And very important wear earplugs, i use mac silicon earplugs.
Life Hint: You can get many more hours out of your front tire of you keep it off the ground.
"Miles man, miles."
Wheelies into the sunset.
"Dank nooners brah" he mumbles through a broken jaw as the paramedics load him into the back of the ambulance, his wounded arm raises his shaka
@@ryanmace8804 oh don't get me wrong, I love the well placed wheelie my self and often indulge in the nooner, but never without full gear
My best advice after decades of riding: trust no one and constant vigilance. No one else on the road cares if you make it home or not. Ride like every other driver out there is an idiot and your life depends on you. Got me through a lot of years of commuting and road-tripping.
I heard something similar from a motorcycle riding instructor a few years ago while sitting in a McD's. He said "when you're on your bike on the street, just remember that about one-third or even one half of the car drivers out there probably want to kill you."
Shit, I ride like EVERYBODY is an idiot. Saved me more times than I can remember.
My MSF instructors said, "Ride like you're invisible. The people who hit you will be sorry, but that doesn't do your family any good."
Rest In Peace James. Thank you for trying to help us all be better people.
I had a BMW R-100GS I rode everywhere. To and from work, to and from my military drill weekends 325 miles away. After 320,000 miles riding through the Loma Portal Earthquake, snow storms over the Grapevine. Once the bike finally died, I had determined that 320,000 miles was enough. To ride any more was to tempt fate. I had used up all of my "Lucky points" .
Ryan Mace The transmission and the drive line was worn out
HOW DARE YOU ENCOURAGE ME TO MAKE RATIONAL DECISIONS WHEN BUYING TOYS.
I agree entirely about taking a motorcycle safety class. I had been riding 15 years before I took one, and I discovered several bad habits that needed to be corrected. Sure enough my riding improved. Good advice James!
I'd been riding a borrowed bike for a few years when I bought my first. 30 years old and as far as I could tell only needed a brake job to get road-worthy. Couldn't get the pistons to budge with any tools or techniques I had but $300 solved that problem. Go to change the oil and find out that the threads in the oil pan were basically stripped. Being old and not exactly the most common model, taking it to yet another specialty shop (going off of James' point, they were the only one around who would touch it) was going to be easier than sourcing and replacing the oil pan. Rode it for about a year after that when the first oil plug fix failed. Luckily I was able to take care of it myself the second time and cut my losses. Bought something only about 10 years old but low mileage and well taken care of and couldn't be happier.
This all goes to reinforce what James said about not buying a project bike (unless you already have something to actually ride)!
I always wanted a bike but not only are my PA roads swiss cheese but I see how people treat bikers on the road and Id like to live a little longer :)
I think any mature adult male with any reasonable responsibilities needs meditation time. I go bow hunting. Usually never take the bow off the hang.
The problem with bikes for me is the other people on the road. So much distraction .
I want to ride on those roads they have in the commercials - the ones with no one else on them
@@jtinnac1895 If you want to find one of those roads with no one else on it, just have one of your tires go flat or otherwise need assistance. You'll have the whole road to yourself.
I agree with most of your points. Maybe the only thing I would note is the commute home from work on a bike, is the best way to depressurize before I get home. Plus one on the course. Wife and I got our endorsement together. Great learning experience for us, eventhough she's a passenger.
@@ryanmace8804 to prove to me and herself, that she can do it?Why not?
+1 on used bikes. Most new bike sales are impulse buys from middle aged dudes. They usually end up on Craigslist, at very attractive prices, with barely broken-in miles.
Regarding older bikes, I bought a 2005 Honda Shadow. No issues finding parts and service. Missus rides a 2008 Yamaha V-star. No issues with parts and service.
Been a licensed motorcyclist since 1971. I do at least one major trip a year which for me can be between 4K and 12K. Have only done 1 trip with another biker. That was the time I stopped by to see ya James. Just tend to like to be alone in my helmet, although have tried to hook up with you guys a couple times. Schedules just haven’t worked out. For me, I will “never” buy hard tires for my bike. I want secure traction in the corners and run dual compound tires always. My life is more important that getting a few more K out of shit tires. Hopefully we will hook up on the road one of these days James...ride safe!
If there is no plan, there is no attack
I've been riding since 1973 agree with everything James said about Owning and riding a motorcycle.
Was approaching 40 and got a inch to ride. Took the course and got the endorsement on my license. One of the best decisions I’ve made.
Riding requires 360 awareness 100% of the time....
When you ride a bike always count on the other drivers ( car drivers ) to do the wrong thing. Ride defensively because your life depends on it. I have 50+ years of riding bikes on the street and 16 years of racing them. I always ride defensively !
James,
You've been a great American and an exemplary human being. You will be missed!
One book I recommend to everyone who rides is Twist of the Wrist 2 by Keith Code. While it's a book about racing the techniques and ideas more than apply to street riding. Has awesome mental and visual drills as well as teaching you about the finer points of counter steering and threshold braking.
I have to agree with you 100% on everything you pointed out in this video. I have been riding now for 15+ years and have learned quite a bit the hard way. I see it all the time where a noobie will go out and buy that new Harley, and in about a years time it ends up as a very expensive and quickly depreciating garage queen. They end up selling it or trading it in with a great loss. And of course there is also the person who has to buy the most tricked out bike they can find, thinking that will give them great pleasure, when most of the time it just ends up draining the bank account even further. I love riding my bike, but I really have to be alert all the time because auto drivers so often are distracted or simply don't see you, and even some hate bikers to the point they will go our of their way to make your ride a bad one. Lastly, take a motorcycle class! There is a wealth of information taught that just may save your life some day.
As a Rider myself I absolutely agree with all of your points. Fortunately I signed up for Harley Davidson Rider Academy and received a call informing me I won the class for free. I have Ridden over a decade and still left there a better Rider with a few more tools in the toolbox. I cannot travel due to taking care of a disabled parent and work 64 hours a week so I went with a 2019 Harley Breakout 114 and Stage 1 and customizations to “Make it Mine”. I absolutely love my Wind therapy and wouldn’t trade it for the world. “Buy the damn Bike” 😂. Thank you James for the 2 Wheel content. Now keep the rubber side down 🤘🏻
100% agree on the MSF course. I credit the course for keeping me safe out on the road. Thinking back to all the close calls I’ve had, the MSF course has saved my life more times than I can count.
Excellent advice! Thanks!! Riding is brutal. You will have your character built, be hit by bugs, go down on a small patch of brown liquid, face exposure, dehydration, windburn, sandblasting, the other drivers will make you shoot blood out of your eyes. Your right hand will get numb from gripping the throttle. Vibration varies; more with v-twins than sportbikes. Keep your tank full; doubly so on long trips. Don't take long trips.(Unless you think you're a real cowboy...) Weather will change, so be ready for all of it with adaptive and varied gear. There's nothing worse than freezing your ass off at night. You will deal with a condition known as Hot Cross Buns - your ass gets numb from long rides. Take the RiderSafetyCourse. I did and it saved my life more than once. Wear complete protective gear or get road-rash. That bike is a machine and it will kill you. Have fun.
Me and my friend ride together and we don’t have any comms but we just vibe and know what we’re doing you know... I agree with everything you said except with the splitting lanes in traffic to work or school( I live in Cali) it is VERY dangerous but my mind is so clear and there is nothing in my brain except the cars that could pull out and kill me at any second.
Been debating this for awhile...Thanks for debunking some myths and giving me some food for thought
It's therapy.
99% of the time, I'm riding by myself. It helps me let go of a lot of things and clears my head.
Shooting is the same. Focus and everything else disappears.
Hi James. If i may add to what you have said here, I am a long time rider, and a safety officer for my HOG chapter (Sunset #1814). Yes, take a riding class first. I see it happen all the time, someone will buy a bike (usually the wrong bike for them) and then it sits in there garage.
That is the main reason for HOG, to get us out on the road in a group, which usually has some safety rules and there is safety in numbers. And do rent a couple of bikes to see what bike fits you best. Most Harley dealer will work on bikes that are older then five years, but usually they will go like 20 years.
If your going to go the used route, I use a couple rules for what to avoid. 1) Custom bikes, unless your a tech and have a shop with all the tools, no, just no. 2) A bike that has had engine mods. In the Harley world, 90% of all engine problems are owner induced, your most likely buying someone else's nightmare. 3) Once you have found the bike you want to buy, take it ot the dealer and pay for a used bike inspection.That 150 bucks you spend now could save you thousands down the road. 5) You can also ask the dealer if they would sell you and extended warranty for this bike, after there service department has cleared, most dealers will be willing to do so, as it makes them money and they know it means you will be coming to therm for service, and you now have peace of mind knowing it is a good solid bike and if something goes wrong down the road, your covered.
I ride mine to work all the time, but I take a route that has less traffic, and I can take a longer ride home to clear my head, what we call ride therapy. As to tires, I have a 2010 Ultra, you need to check your tire pressures at least every two weeks and keep them at the recommend pressure (On my bike 37 front and 40 rear). I am getting 18-22K out of my tires. I am running the Dunlop American Elite (www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/tire-what-i-ride/v-twin-tires/). These have the correct weight rating for Harley's and a duel compound for better cornering,
I have about 3 miles from my house to work and the best thing about riding to work is my hour lunch break.. I don't go for a ride every day but about once or twice a week I go for a spin and it breaks up my day beautifully... I come back in a great mood.. I agree about not always bringing it to work though.. if I didn't have 3 miles of backroads to travel I'd probably just drive my truck every day.
This may be the most accurate video I have seen you make. Everything you said was spot on. Especially about the cost of up keep versus a car or truck. Loved it.
100% agree. I took the class before I bought a bike, ride 2 before I bought mine, & bought it used. Great advice
Nice, I did my MSF BRC two weekends ago, I road in the late 80's and early 90's on a 82 Honda Silver wing!
I started riding 5yrs ago and it changed my life. No you shouldn't buy a motorcycle. Unless you should. Taking the class very first thing is wonderful advice. Started on a Honda Shadow 750 (now a project), and now have a Honda Valkyrie 1800. Good video, good advice. Protip on financing: Take the note to your credit union (and join one if you aren't) and save money on better interest rate. Also, don't buy my project bike.
All great advice, I hope many people follow your wisdom. Many people don't take a class, they buy their dream bike right off and drop their first bike in one month.
I know people who take the class and learn on a one lung Harley, graduate then buy a v twin Harley and drop it on the street right off within a month doing a u turn because they still learning to balance the bike.
Rental bikes and used bikes are very important.
Also people don't realize that your tire contact patch on a bike is much smaller than a car, which changes how you stop and lean into a curve versus turn your handle bars and steer opposite of the turn.
Love my motorcycle and completely agree with all James' points. Before going for a bike, go get a jeep or some other convertible. They're way safer and give you the same top down wind in the face experience, plus you can actually use it for commuting.
Riding my bike to work puts me in a better frame of mind and kicks them endorphins in!!
This video clarified my prospective...but also convinced me to buy a bike. The meditation piece is really true for me and it was missing from my life after hanging up Motocross. I live in a rural area with perfect roads for riding. Looking forward to spring.
At age 16 i got my class L license. Rode a cb125 for about 8000 miles on back roads. Sold that little guy and have not rode in about 15 years.
At age 42 i got the itch to get back on 2 wheels. This video popped up in my youtube feed, and wouldnt you know it James is imparting wisdom for free. Thank you James. Will be enrolling in a training course to refresh my memory and skills.
Stay strong James love all your content man!
One of my favorite videos from you James! Absolute truth right there. Owning a bike is a big labor of love, but that time on the road is incomparable. We sure as hell don't do it for anyone but ourselves and our own piece of mind! Like my Dad use to say, "Just shut up and ride.". One of the greatest Zen moments I've ever had the pleasure of experiencing.
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My motorcycle gets better gas mileage than my truck. By a long shot. But the funny thing is if I drive it to work I find its a way longer commute to work. Its 30 minutes to work in my truck. It takes me 3 times that to get to work on my bike...I don't drive slower either... Just way more miles. lol
I agree on the class 100%. My dad hadn't ridden for a long time and we decided to ride to Alaska. So I took the class with him. I'd been riding for years before it too. Learned a bunch. Three trips to AK now in the books.
riding = wind therapy
James, good advice. I’ve been riding 30 years, so 1964 to 1994. The reason I stopped was some stupid woman rear ended my 1965 VW wagon and that scrambled my brain and couldn’t ride safely. I started riding desert bikes in Hare and Hounds then after I got my bike license in 1973 I moved to street. Some of my friends were into the Cafe scene but that wasn’t me, at a young age I loved choppers. In 1974 I bought a 1948 Panhead in boxes, I taught myself simple engineering principles and took a welding class and got certified in 6G mig. Long story short I raked the stock neck 35 degrees from a 90, 12” over stock springers with a 21” front and a 16” rear, 6 bend pullbacks. Top speed was 90 mph but mainly did 65. I rode that bike everyday to and from work rain or shine and on the weekends rode to Ridgecrest from Huntington Beach, Ca. I am now 65 and would love to build another one, about my head... I was tested (on my own dime) to see if I am able to still ride and yes I’m good. As you eluded to I wouldn’t recommend any new rider to ride without a license or without a rider course. When I get the cash together (fixed income) I too will be going to a riders course. BTW I don’t do garbage wagons (this term was probably before your time, old school) I do low and slow is the way I roll. Biker forever!!
Sir I'm the guy that missed the opportunity to talk to you at Indy. I've been riding for ten years I started ridding to school when I was 17 on a ninja 636. You nailed it on the head. But like you said the helmet zen time is what I love most. I change my tires every 3000 but I ride aggressively in nc. I'm on a fz07 now. But I commute every day as well. But my dad does to and has all my life. I buried my best friend last year after he wrecked his bike leaving my house. I know the risks but I don't think I could keep my happiness without daily twist therapy in the summer and once a month in the winter!!! Great video and no bs!
Excellent advice. I rented motorcycles from Harley for a month before I bought. Started with a Sportster and worked up to a Limited by the end of the month. Ended up buying a BMW K160OGTL, but renting after I took my class at Harley was the best thing I ever did.
I never had a problem with worries about work when I was commuting. On the contrary, that was 40-60 minutes a day, 5 days a week that I didn't think about anything except staying alive from one moment to the next. It was very relaxing.
"Expense of owning a motorcycle" Not only tires but the drive train. After going through chains as much as tires, I swore my next bike would be shaft drive. The BMW R-100 GS goes through a drive line every 150,000 miles and it costs $750.00 to replace. Now that the "Air heads are out of production, drive lines if you can find one goes for $1200.00
I bought a project bike in 2015. My friend and I really enjoyed fixing it and its finally up and running. It was super fun, but dont buy a project bike because you want a bike or a cheap bike, buy it for a fun mechanical project. It is a headache at times.
another advantage to buying used if your a new rider is when you lay it down you won't feel as bad scratching up that $3000 used bike versus a $18000 new bike
I would only ride my bike to work on the occasional friday and I was on my way home from work when I got squished.
so bikes are like guns get training before you go down the path of having them in your life :D
Well said!
Should you buy one....NO. Be a Real OutLaw and STEAL IT !!!
You do realize the number of morons that will take your advice right?
Or win it in a poker game, or a trade for a woman.
James was way ahead of his time. He and Jeff Cooper were two of the greats.
I can't disagree, I walked away from a accident where I had to lay mine down at 35 mph when a dingbat pulled right out in front of me. I haven't been on a street bike since, maybe if I move to the cityfied area someday.
I ride for the exact reason you do I’ve been riding over half my life , my bike of choice for commute and fun is a Honda xr650L dual sport. I also ride a Kawasaki kx500 2stroke with my son.
I'm sure everyone has a similar story: I was turning wrenches at a motor couch/ limo company years back, and shortly after I left, one of the mechanics I worked with was rushing to get to work early on his bike and was hit by a car that "didn't see him". People rushing/raging to go to work and with the way everyone seems to be on their damn phones definitely adds risks.
Love riding. HATE riding to work on my bike. I ride from rural/suburban into urban and the traffic is awful.
People in cars ride way too fast. They don’t signal. They don’t check blind spots.
No thanks. I don’t need that additional stress just to get to a job that’s stressful enough.
Live in the Milwaukee area. Been to Sturgis and back 3 times, no trailer. I’ve put my share of miles on.
Time spent on your sidewalls shall not be subtracted from the end of your life.
I commuted on my street glide for a few years till one day someone didn’t like that I was lane splitting (California), and purposely tried to block me... ended up hitting me and causing me to wreck... broke my back in three places and will now live in pain the rest of my life.
Good points, James. Everybody should take an MSF course first. Then maybe test ride a few friends bikes of different styles to get a feel for how they handle. When you buy one, buy used. Buy something smaller and cheap. Take your time learning all the intricacies of riding... there's more to it than people think. Eventually, after you've mastered your small bike... move up to something bigger. Don't rush it. Wear a helmet and gear... always.
My klr 650 costs $20 to fill the tank and I get about 350km to a tank.
My dodge Dakota costs $110 to fill and I get 550 km to a tank.
I agree with what you are saying but a bike does get better gas mileage.
Agreed on the cost of maintenance for a bike, however if you buy a simple bike like mine and repair it yourself , the expense is more than a vehicle but minimal.
With that said, I only ride my bike when it is nice weather (I live in Canada), because it is a toy not my commuter. However how things are in this day and age, people are so busy. Sometimes if I don’t ride my bike to work I won’t get a chance to ride at all.
Love your videos , sorry to challenge your points, I have much respect for u. I agree with most of your points. Only a couple things I disagreed with
I don't ride a minibike.
I ride because I’ve been addicted to wheelies since I was 12 years old. Also only one of my bikes is street legal and I’ve had several close calls while commuting.
I'm a noob dirtbike rider
Edgar Bravo everyone starts somewhere man. Just know that if your getting into dirt biking it will be one of the greatest hobbies of your life but it will eventually lead to injuries. My dad still rides because everyone in my family is addicted despite having 3 knee surgeries, shoulder surgeries, and a permanently severed tendon in his right arm. He’s 55 years old and barely now considering getting a side by side or quad. Just ride careful and have fun while it lasts.
@@husky701rider9 Thanks! Soon I'll be addicted to doing mega dank woolies like you and having an amazing time. I hope you have a great afternoon! I'll be cautious. Take care!
But what if Glock made a bike?
Cool to see you in our town of Blue Ridge, Ga. Please come back. Seen you at the apple orchard but didn't want to disturb you with your friends.
You should have said hello!
@@TacticalResponseCrew I had even brought my 308 wanting to get it signed. But didn't think it would be a bright idea cheering it in
I agree motorcycle is great therapy.
I have been riding most of my life
I like the advice regarding using a motorcycle as your commuting vehicle. Never thought about what you talked about having a million things on your mind and it being more dangerous because you are not as focused. Good video. Thanks man.
I've never even had a thought about ever buying a bike.......... now I want a bike dam it!
I highly recommend the MSF rider course. If you learned from a friend or relative, good chance you learned some bad habits. The course will teach you good habits to take away and apply and use everyday! (Sounds like how your learned to shoot)
Laughed at “I wasn’t ‘that guy.’”
I’ve been riding for a little over 30 years and EVERYTHING he said here is the TRUTH. Good on you Mr. Yeager
Thanks man. The people that ride 1,000 miles a year disagree.
Surprised you didn’t mention don’t buy a beginner bike. But that kinda goes with renting a bike to find out what you would like. All good points though, wish I did this before I bought my first bike.
I used to ride my bike to work. One morning I saw the guy next to me eating a bowl of froot loops, milk and all, with both hands while driving. Even if you can be zen on your bike on the way home. The people in their cars drive stupid.
I rode a crotch rocket for years, even when I was in the Marines, loved the speed, BUT they are uncomfortable as hell. If you’re new to riding.... please please don’t get a crotch rocket to “start on” they are twitchy and your ego will get your ass killed or someone else.
The only other advice I would give folks is to EXPECT that every automobile you cross paths with will pull out in front of you. That way when one does your hand and foot are ready to break, that will save you about one second of reaction tome, which could be enough to save your hide.
Some of the best motorcycle advice I've ever heard anywhere. Especially for someone who is getting into riding.
Man this is a solid video. I’ve always wanted to get a motorcycle and was always hesitant, because I was unsure of a lot of these intricate details. This answered them all. Sound advice, Sir
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Some great advise. Especially about the gas mileage. Though I used that to sell my wife on me buying a bike again, my five speed Vulcan Meanstreak gets worse mpg then the wife’s Taurus.
I gotta motorcycle. It's caused me to shoot less lol
Have ridden for the past 15 years. Sold mine this year. It was sitting in my shop more than usual. I really miss the meditation piece of motorcycle ownership. I'm sticking with the decision to be bikeless for now but I'm pretty sure it won't be forever.
I’m really glad you came out with this video. I’ve been back and forth on some bikes. I’ve never thought about renting one. Going to take that advice. This video is a little different from your normal and i like it.
Started riding this month after taking the MSF course. I see lots of parking lot practice in my future, taking it slow and easy and enjoying it so far. Thanks for the sound advice.
Good solid advise......ITs the same I give to others about buying a motorcycle
When are we gonna have a fighting pistol/carbine on a bike class? 🤪
Hmm..
I rode 18 years then I had my first accident! Spent 1 month in the hospital. That was 2007. I just bought another bike over a year ago! I li I've to ride!
Just got a bike about a week ago. Plenty of great advice here. Thanks James.
You are quite welcome.
I cannot disagree on any of this. As a matter of fact, being 58 yrs old, and having a bike since the age of 10, I sold my Harley Road king this summer. Too many distracted morons on the road. Maintenance cost is horrible on a Harley as well.
I rode for 9 years before taking my MSF course and I still learned a lot. I didn't get back on my motorcycle for about 3 months after the course because I thought I was Mr. Cool riding my motorcycle to the MSF course. After being on a motorcycle for about 8+ hours each day plus needing to ride back home afterwards, I got burnt out on wanting to ride lol.
As an old medic I believe that riding the bike is WAY more dangerous and deadly if you ride a lot even. I'm also not saying don't ride or own one, but know the risks. GREAT VIDEO with GREAT ADVICE, James. Our late son had a bike and kept it till he had his first seizure, then wisely sold it. He had one wreck where he had to lay it down as a guy ran a stop sign so he had to. Thankfully he had a great helment and heavy leather suit, but still had a minor fracture.
If you're back in Camden (I know you're traveling a lot) on the 28th and 29th of September, I'd love to talk motorcycles with you. Also, I'm still down with the stupid internet motorcycle stuff like lawn clippings and darkside. I'd love to see that become a thing. Enjoy your time in East Tennessee and safe travels to you and everyone else.
I have gotten 3k out of my tires, the set I had on when I rode with Yeager last friday had about 200 miles on them and are my third set this year lol
My sportster got 50mph appx. 110ish miles to the tank, with a 2.2 gal peanut tank.
MCRider has some excellent vids on emergency braking and how to practice.
He does a good job.
James have you taken the Experienced Riders Course? As far as an insurance discount, where is this law you speak of? My insurance companies said they don't offer a discount and when I took the experienced course the instructor said some companies offer a discount but not all... By the way I'm and active member of the MRO in my state and we teach the courses and promote rider education heavily, keep pushing the education/training aspect and keep the rubber side down.
LOL so true, been riding since the 80s it’s the best for my time. Also scuba diving is good you can’t hear the idiots 90 feet deep.
Hayabusa, some aggressive ridding, 32mpg, rear tire 2,500 miles, front tire 6,000 miles $200 per tire, broke a $180 chain @6,000 miles. A economy car is cheaper ......
Don't buy a motorcycle, don't buy a gun, and for god sake, stay away from relationships. There, kept you out of trouble.
Good advices, thank you!
I tell guys to ride a bicycle in town and see how they feel being exposed to the world, if they dont like that they are probably not going to like a riding. And very important wear earplugs, i use mac silicon earplugs.
Lol i ride my bike everyday and i would never have fun riding a pedal bike anywhere.
Great advjce, Yeager. I agree that buying a motorcycle for economy is a mistake, but I ride a heavy cruiser (over 1600cc) and still manage 47-48 mpg.
I ride and it is two wheel meditation. My motorcycle is a luxury for me. Yes…take the MSF class before you do anything!
Great advice and spot on. I haver over 20 years experience riding on the street.
I got my street bike license in 1984.
I know this is a older video but I believe cornering is a form of therapy. And the class is just like anything else you don’t know what you don’t know
My DL650 cost $3k gets 55mpg and can go off road places my 4x4 truck can’t.
Dude I’ve been watching your videos since 2010. I appreciate all of your content and take it serious. Thank you for that.
Same thing with project cars, someone created a problem that couldn't fix so they sell it, then you have to fix thier bs plus whats actually wrong.