What about the ESEE 5? 5 inch blade, 1095 High Carbon, Kydex sheath, thicker then the ESEE 6 (More durable) has a built in glass breaker ( cause your not always surviving in the woods) and a bow drill divot on the handle.
@@johncrouch8988the esee 5 isn’t really a knife. it’s a pry bar with an edge, and it doesn’t hold a great edge at that. it’s way too thick at the edge to be good for actual knife tasks
@First Last People hunted gigant deer and wooly mamoth with wooden spears. They made a point on a stick and hardened it in the fire. This works, but be carefull not burning the point.
Gerber LMF 2 infantry is my knife of choice. A lot of my buddies used them overseas while I had nothing lol. I know it's not the best, but it's not the worst either in my opinion. Love ur channel brother, both the old and new stuff 👍🇺🇸
You key point was the sharpening. So many people avoid this issue and let's face it if you are not skilled at sharpening then the 1095 is going to be better to start with than a higher HRC stainless alloy/s.
Good info. My take is yes, get “YOUR perfect knife”, AND equally important (imho) is the marriage to a good quality, multi purposed sheath. A sharpen stick AND a fire stick/bar attached onto the sheath. Us “Joe Average” folks have not the skills to sharpen w/ a river rock etc. , & fire is flat out necessary.
Thanks for your presentation of these knives. I'm 70 and still love nature and the outdoors. Too many people take much longer to present half as much info. Could say much more but for now just keep on doing what you do here. MikeC
i'm just wondering about "survival" in general and i just don't get it how long are you going to survive for before either being rescued/find your way/ die ? any knife with a decent steel will (if sharp enough at the beginning) hold its edge long enough to attain any of these ends, so if i have to survive for a longer time i'm either prepared not really survival(thus a sharpening kit) or i'll have absolutely no kit and no knives at all (evasion & escape, plane crash boat wreck) maybe i'm shortsighted but i just don't get it my opinion
some experts are predicting WW3 and/or a civil war and/or a depression... too bad all of this survival stuff costs so much. that Esee-6 is about $200. I just looked up that affordable $40 knife and some guys are showing pics or videos of it breaking - but that is when they use it to chop. That $30 survival shovel seems a decent way to chop, too. $70 for 2 items or $200 for one? Depends on the person, I guess.
Man, everybody is different. While I don't like the recurve, that SCHF-9 fits me like a glove & is the most balanced & comfortable big knife I have felt in my hand.
I'm making my very first knife and this video answered a lot questions I had regarding survival knife design! Great way of explaining the do's and don't s. Many thanks!!!
I tend to agree with all your recommendations and recently purchased and esee 6. Thanks for an excellent, well thought out video. Years ago, I had an experience with uncoated 1095, leather sheaths and rain, would have given anything for just a kydex sheath, but that was back in the late 70's, not much of that around then. Love the esee 6, great knife! Keep up the great work you're doing!
totally agree with the choice of Esee 6. it's not even about what it has, but everything it doesn't have. it doesn't have a narrow clip point, jimping everywhere, weirdly shaped handle, gimmicky grind, serrations, etc. it's just a well made, simple survival knife than can do it all.
I had a 5....I bought a 4 for My Nephew which I absolutely know would be a better survival knife. I have been using knives for 45 years... I find myself doing far more tasks with a 3- 4 inch blade....
Okay, Leather does not retain moisture, if you treat it. I use boiled linseed oil to water proof leather knife sheaths. And you can always use something called Snow Seal. As for cutting it or it wearing out. I guess it depends on how you use it. I think Kydex, is usually too bulky and it rattles. Yes, I have had some experience with Kydex and Cold Steel's Secur-Ex. I have since added to my collection a Khukuri with a 12 inch blade, it is the only knife in my collection I would chop and split wood with. Because, that is what it was designed to do. I will soon have a Khukuri with a six inch blade, should be very useful around camp. As for the "Over Molded" tang on some knives. Well, Buck and Kabar both do that with some of thier knives. And they are still great knives.
Nice job! Stainless gets a bum wrap sometimes. Many knife makers say it takes more care and skill to work with but treated properly it can hold an edge and sharpen up easily. I think it's a good low maintenance choice.
I watched so many amazing reviews about knives regardless if it's bush craft or survival knives because I love knives. And I think this is the best review I ever watched so far. You covered almost everything of the most important aspects of what a true survival knife should be. You exolained it well enough. And I totally agree with all of your opinion. You're such a very good observant person just like me. Keep it.
I have a BK2, I just removed the nylon belt loop and attached a techlock and I'm still trying out different ways to carry it. I'm not so sure wearing anything scout style in the middle of your back is such a great idea. If you end up falling backwards it seems like that would really mess up your back.
jstorer1980 I carry mine on the straps of the pack I'm carrying usually the maxpedition jumbo or my usmc molle 2 only good way I could figure to carry my bk2
awesome video! You put all factors of survival knives into perspective, gave specific examples, covered all facets including weight, thickness, and more importantly the type of metal. Amazing details and execution considerations. I think the ESEE 6 is my next purchase
Great vids. Really appreciate all the clear concise video without unintelligible jargon. As a n00b to outdoor cutlery this and your other videos have been very helpful. Subbed.
Great job! Very informative, you impart a lot of knowledge in an easy to understand communications style. Your passion comes through and holds interest. I have watched a lot of videos on this subject. This is one of the best.
This video definitely helped out with what to look for in my survival knife! Thank you again for a great video and review of the knives. I ultimately ended up with the Schrade SCHF52, it included a nylon sheath, and plastic insert and also a ferro rod and striker as well as a sharpening stone with a pocket on the sheath to store the items! thumbs up!
Hey here is one "survival" knife seldom reviewed but I reckon it's great, The Italian company, Extrema Ratio's Ontos, just had it EDC basically for one whole month in the jungle/bush LOL.
Survival knife, I'm going with my Bark River, Bravo 1.25 in 3V steel, with a DLT kydex sheath. I pretty much use it everyday and the set up works great. Wish more people would review Bark River, they are a great company and have lots of great designs too. Great video and great advice, I always recommend my friends to watch your channel if they are interested in getting non biased knife reviews.
Great video brother! I scrolled through the comments and it's really disheartening how many negative people inhabit this planet! Keep up the good work and to hell with the negativity!👊🏼
Good video and excellent points! However, I think most blade/handle designs are all personal preference. For people looking for a blade, personally seeing and touching it is the best way to know if it fits your hand and if its comfortable. Thats how I picked my Schf9. That handle was made for me! Even if the knife is expensive or cheap, do your research! Sheath is the last thing I worry about. Upgrading is an option and it can be personalized to my liking. Practice using your knife too!
Great video, Aaron! Thanks for doing this ... lots of good stuff to consider. (But you made my BK16 a little sad ... it came in a little short to qualify).
I listened to what you have to say holding onto a Dadley. This was a favorite of Mt men during the height of the fur trade in the Rockies. Guys bought these in large numbers at least in part because they did a great job skinning fur bearers but they still over wintered in the Rockies and these blades could do about anything they needed a knife to do and they so don't meet your list. If I were going to pay any attention to your list at all I'd go with a BK-10 rather than a BK-2. They are both tough and robust but once a knife has all the metal it needs adding more just makes it heavy. Heavy means you don't have it with you when you need it.
I choose the Gerber prodigy. Was that a descent choice or should I go get something else ? And hello from Kentucky land between the lakes and God bless. 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇨🇦
Couldn't agree more about serrations. I've carried and used knives every day for literally 40 of my 45 years and have never liked or seen a need for them for the very reasons you articulated. My father and grandfathers never did either.
Hi thanks for this great video. But what do you think of the tops bob. My problem is that in the country i live in you arent allowed to carry a knife with you with a bladelength of over 12cm. (= 4.8 inches). Again thank you for your nice channel. Greetings from germany.
Max Heimerl The BOB is a great knife, my only thing is for me it is a little thick for it's size. I would have preferred 0.16 or 0.12 inches thick. I would consider also checking out the TOPS Dragonfly and the TOPS HOG 4.5. All three are great.
I want to get a good knife I'm torn between the tops Bob and the tops tex Creek XL what do u think. i carry a folder, wingman, tops something we will see and a good little ax in the woods
Hey Aaron, Great video brother! I happen to own both the ESEE 6 and the BK2 and I also happen to find both of them to be my preferred go to knives as well. But I did want to mention a couple of things I have _personally_ found to be of interest. Although they are both great knives, I do happen to personally find the BK2 handle to be more comfortable and conform to the hand better than the ESEE 6's rather *blocky* handle. I really wish ESEE would make the handles more *round* in cross-section to help with comfort. The blades themselves however, are a different story. I do prefer the thickness of the ESEE 6 blade over the BK2 simply because the BK2's extremely thick blade can make doing food prep or fine carving rather difficult due to the *very obtuse* saber grind. Whereas the ESEE 6's slimmer, full flat ground blade is more conducive to a wider array of tasks. But at the end of the day, the *only* thing that makes me sometimes go for the BK2 over the ESEE 6 is the handle! The BK2 is just more comfortable _in my opinion_. But I love ESEE's no questions asked warranty policy on their knives! So you can really go into the woods and not worry about your knife! It's really a *big comfort!* Likewise, even thought Kabar doesn't have the warranty policy that ESEE does, I think you would be *VERY* hard pressed to *EVER* break a BK2... Matter of fact, I think I remember reading somewhere that Kabar stated that they have only ever had a *handful* of BK2's _ever_ come back to their factory! As for the sheaths, the BK2 *does* come with 2 optional sheaths from the factory. The original molded plastic drop sheath being more along the lines of what you were recommending. Now, I know that Ka-bar had problems with this sheath dulling the knives a while back, but I believe that issue has since been resolved. I also happen to have the ballistic nylon sheath for the BK2 and don't believe that this would really be much, if _any_, more of a burden than kydex or molded plastic personally. You are right, the ballistic nylon sheaths can rattle, but it's never bothered me nor do I find a reason that I would need to be *that* quiet LOL! If there is any rattle, it certainly is not obnoxious enough to where it would actually begin to bother me or get on my nerves. Also, one advantage that the ballistic nylon sheaths have over kydex, is that they usually have a nice little pouch on the front for a ferro rod and/or sharpener which is nice! If your kydex sheath has attachment points, I'm sure you can add on a pouch similar to how you can purchase the molle back and pouch for the ESEE 6 sheath, but once again, that goes against what your shooting for in this video. Your looking for the *most* you can get *stock* from the factory without any *modifications* or *add-ons* and it's for this reason I think the ballistic nylon's pouch is a nice touch! I think if I had the option to get any style sheath straight from the factory than yes, I would definitely go for Kydex first, then probably molded plastic, then ballistic nylon with the kydex insert. I believe any one of these options are pretty resilient and pretty impervious to weather and moisture. The ballistic nylon may get damp, but will quickly dry out, whereas leather will hold moisture _and rot_ as you mentioned in this video. In conclusion, the point I'm getting at is that handle comfort in my opinion is *as important*, if not *more important* than the knife itself! Because you could have the most well made knife in the world, but if it's uncomfortable to hold and use for extended periods, you're eventually going to stop using it... It's in this area that I think ESEE could be paying a little bit more attention... If only they could make the sides of their handles more rounded and less *flat & blocky*, their knives would be _almost_ perfect! I say _almost_ perfect because I'm still not a fan of blade coatings. They don't allow for ferro rod usage, and they look like crap once the coating starts getting worn off... The textured coatings are also generally *rough* and make it much harder to push cut due to the increased friction and drag created by the rough coating. I would rather a polished blade and deal with keeping it oiled and/or force a patina. Great job Aaron! You did a wonderful job touching upon all very valid points to be concerned with when looking for a good survival knife! I love these videos! =) Keep at it brother! PS- TurtleWolf Pack is right about a few things too. American Tanto blades are not hard to resharpen. As he said, they are merely treated as two separate straight blades - easy! Recurved blades however are a pain in the ass! The Schrade SCHF9 in this video is a recurve pattern, however nothing was mentioned about it's blade shape. The steeper the recurve, the narrower the sharpening stone has to be to get into the recurved belly properly! Most of the time however, you just have to resort to using a sharpening rod of some type. The problem with sharpening rods is that they not only don't allow you to really effectively sharpen the tip of your knife, but also will easily round off and blunt the tip of your knife if your not careful! You really _should_ use a flat stone if you want to keep a well defined, sharp tip on your knife. Personally, I would much rather carry a Tanto blade into the woods rather than a recurve blade. I would just make sure that the Tanto *did not* have a swedge. But in general, I agree with you in that I just prefer a simple standard blade shape.
Hey Aaron. Great tips. Can I ask: Does the black powder coating detract from a blades firestarting potential???? Specifically asking about 1095/1075 HC steel...
I'm now carrying the Esee Junglas II for my survival knife. I find the few extra oz and still under 20 oz. Make it better at chopping and isn't way too long.
I like your video and agree with most of what you said. I just got some knives shipped today and can hardly wait to u box them. I got a Mora and a Schrade 52. They should take care of most of the tasks I will need. Being on a low/no budget for about $50.00 I am now a HAPPY CAMPER!
You really should check out the Ritter-Becker RSK MK2. It's more or less an esee 6 with on choil (and a thumb ramp) with the Becker handle. It's even a Rowen made blade! It's a gooder
I cary edc folding blades all the time. My favorite is the full size Griptilian. Not that I found that I am getting into and doing research on fixed knife fir vehicle bag. I live in Nor Cal, very rural city environment. for that reason not looking for a large huge blade. I love the BK22 & LMF2. I feel they are great but tank like blades. I'm now pretty much looking at Esee RC 4/5. Thanks for the videos love the channel.
I am interested to know if there are knives out there that are 7/32" in thickness? The other issue I have with most knives are the finger grip, choil and finger guard combinations. I notice that most that have this feature and have to blade terminate where the finger choil is and are a part of the finger guard. The esee 6 is what I am talking about and I find this quite an annoying design flaw as I've seen some severe injuries from this type of design. Both the Schrade knives have a way better designed finger grip and not flawed like the esee 6. I want to see more knife makers worry less about aesthetics and more about functionality and durability.
Hi again Aaron! Man, that was a truly awesome & entertaining video...& you didn't even do any field tests bc they have already been done by you. I love my ESEE 6 & you are the one that recommended it to me! "HANDS DOWN" LOL. Thanks.
Im still happy you recommended the esee 6 a while back to me... it is even better than i expected for me with my big hands... i recently bought the molle back for it for more carry versatility and the button snap is a good secure feeling when carrying her inverted... one of my most loved blades!... greets...
I just do camping, but I want to buy a very good knife, I have seen many videos of different kind of knife, but this one that you have made have a very good information, Thank for all details you have narrated and described for what to look in a survival knife.
Fallkniven A1, S1 and F1 are awsome. Dont know if the convex grind is hard to sharpen in the field? The spines can strike firesteels too and skrape tinder, so thats a pluss. I still would go for the 1095 over the laminated VG-10, because i have chipped my F1 a few times. It does hold an edge better than the 1095, so i guess you have to choose whats important for you. Living in Norway i like the plastic sheats the best. Kydex is not the best in cold klimates, but down to minus 10 degrees celsius its fine. Great video and great comment on the Fallknivens!
Aaron, I agree with everything you say in this video. I have a question ... I'm looking for a knife basically like the ESEE 6, but with a 5" - 5 1/2" blade. I, like you, prefer the full flat grind, and a drop point blade. I'd also rather have a 3/16" thickness, so that rules out the BK2 and the ESEE 5 (too thick) - and the Ontario Blackbird (too thin). Any suggestions? Thanks!
rlauck I'm looking at the Becker BK10 for that category. It's not a drop point, but the clip(for stabbing in an emergency) is short, and still leaves you with a lot of spine(for a 5 1/2" blade) for batoning, draw knife etc. I don't need a BK2, because I already have the heavy Nowell MOD3 survival knife(7" blade drop point, quarter inch thick, full tang, 1085 low to mid fifties Rockwell, so just about indestructible for prying, hammering, digging, batoning, blunt instrument etc).
I'm okay with my elmax 5150 field knife. Great all around blade. I make sure I have a stone to keep it sharp in the bug out bag. The idea is to get good at keeping it sharp before shtf.
i packed a 440c for years not once did fail me tell drug addic stole it it was so good ill be going back to one soon ive looked at lot new knife thay can get close to my old 440c
That was excellent. I took notes and I'm still looking for that perfect, and actual, 'wilderness survival knife'. The one's recommended are certainly up there for contenders but I'm still researching. Thank you for the views and examples.
Some people knock the ESEE 6's plastic sheath, but it will cover more environmental situations than the Kydex. Here in AZ if you leave Kydex in your vehicle on a hot summer day, the Kydex will will dis-form and the sheath will become loose and open up making the fit loose. Kydex can also become more brittle in the Cold. Now the thickness of the Kydex used makes a huge difference in this regard so if you run a Kydex sheath I would use a minimum thickness of 0.093" or else there will more issues.
I find that the upper limit for a 'knife' is around 7 inch blade, bigger than that is moving into a chopping tool. I like ESSE knives but they pricey, I can buy the near equivalent Ontario RAT 7, sheath is OK for me.
I really appreciated all your knowledge and insight. I watched your review of the Tops Silent Hero and will be ordering it next week. I live in the high desert of eastern Oregon and would rather have the quiet of the leather over the kydex. Great information in a clear concise and unbiased review, thank you.
Totally agree with you/ Esee 6 for sure. However I also love my Esee 5/ it's a beast as well. Great videos you put out. I'm a big fan. Keep doing them. Stay safe.
One of your best vids! Yes, I realize it is over 4 years old now, but I just found it. So I agree that the Esee 6 is a great one, but my personal criteria includes a sub-$100 price point...actually well "sub" haha! You can't hit all the criteria at that price-point, but you can come close with the Schrade 52, and it is only 37 bucks. Its got the ballistic nylon sheath, although a good one, and it is a sabre hollow ground blade. Being this is 1/4" thick stock I don't mind a slight hollow grind. There are advantages in cutting tasks with this style blade too. Anyway, great vid!
Enjoyed your video very much.... a very well informed tutorial on Survival Knives, the important thing to remember is the Survival Knife has to perform various tasks good not great. The "Unknowns" of a real world survival situation demand as much preparation and informed information as possible when choosing your knife. The point must be made that the BK2 Gen2 one of the knives featured in this video is not a full tang knife.....remove the scales and you will find it has a hollow tang. My personal belief that the "Unknowns" that may present itself in a real world survival situation demand a full tang solid steel knife, failure of your Survival Knife may have life changing consequences. I do own and have used the Gen2 BK2, SCHF9, SCHF36 and Esee5. My personal criteria of a bet your life on Survival Knife is,1/4 thick drop point blade ,full solid steel tang, good ergonomics and construction (1095 steel). Therefore the Esee5 not mentioned in this video meets my personal criteria and is the knife of my choice when or if that day ever comes. Thanks again for the video Gideonstactical!
Say Heah Aaron, Usually I don't go smaller than a 6" blade. Like my Modde Rodent 6, my A-1 or my new Arvensis 119, But because my Modified Attitude is stout, I can trust it as a Survival Knife also. Job well done as usual. Thanx You. ,, .
I agree that plastic/kydex sheaths are better, however, I have found that leather and nylon sheaths are much more quiet than kydex or plastic. Just my experience.
This video came up in my feed today and, of course, I had to watch it again. 😉 I believe the TOPS Tahoma Field Knife is one of the best all around “survival knives”. One of my Tahoma’s is in my Jeep kit, and the other is my backup knife in my main wilderness bag. But my go-to blades when I’m headed out to the wilds, that I always carry, are the TOPS Armageddon and Brakimo.
Great description; however, I feel that 90 degree spine as described by Mr. Canterbury is a very important feature that must be included. Of course, your best knife, the ESEE man lol... Gracias
I have a BK2 with Micarta and an Izula 2 right now. I think they go well together. Definitely need to mod the BK2 sheath. I'll be getting custom Kydex. Why the Esee 6 over the Esee 5? My guess is more weight makes it a better chopper comparable to the BK2, yet the full flat grind helps with tasks like skinning.
i agree with the choice of the esee 6 but my main issue is that a lot of shops (online at least) sell the knife without a sheath, which you have to buy separately which then increases the cost significantly, i am in the netherlands so might just be an issue here but could u recommend a webshop link (that ships to the Netherlands, i know its a very specific request) because i think i will otherwise go with the bekker bk 2 which comes with a kydex sheath
Very helpful video.For about 2 years I've been looking for a survival knife for my BOB,and the ESSE 6 is what I have been looking to buy.Now I know that is the knife to buythanks to your video.
Awesome vids, brother. I have a couple questions, though. 1. Does the Ontario RAT 7 serve as a lower cost alternative to the esee 6 sighing this videos guidelines? 2. Would you recommend carrying something like the SRK along with the more suitable knives? 3. Can you please do a video about a 2 or 3 knife system and what to look for/your recommendations. Thanks.
Michael Clark I do plan an making a few videos to help with those type of questions. The Rat7 is a good knife, but I usually see it for around $85 on amazon.com, and the ESEE6 is $113 at knifeworks.com it is better to save a little more and get the ESEE6. The srk is a good knife, and would be a fine knife to pair with a bigger knife like and RTAK II, BK9, or ESEE Junglas. Hope that helps you.
What about the ESEE 5? 5 inch blade, 1095 High Carbon, Kydex sheath, thicker then the ESEE 6 (More durable) has a built in glass breaker ( cause your not always surviving in the woods) and a bow drill divot on the handle.
Love mine!👍🏴
@@johncrouch8988the esee 5 isn’t really a knife. it’s a pry bar with an edge, and it doesn’t hold a great edge at that. it’s way too thick at the edge to be good for actual knife tasks
i dont think you should dig with a knife, instead you could sharpen and flat out a stick with the knife and use that to dig
that's a really smart idea.
Exactly... and don't tie your knife to a stick to make a spear. Use your knife to make other tools.
wo0w thx
@First Last
People hunted gigant deer and wooly mamoth with wooden spears. They made a point on a stick and hardened it in the fire. This works, but be carefull not burning the point.
@@Strength-in-Union
You are wellcome.
But make sure to have a backup weapon.
Just in case...
Gerber LMF 2 infantry is my knife of choice. A lot of my buddies used them overseas while I had nothing lol. I know it's not the best, but it's not the worst either in my opinion. Love ur channel brother, both the old and new stuff 👍🇺🇸
You key point was the sharpening. So many people avoid this issue and let's face it if you are not skilled at sharpening then the 1095 is going to be better to start with than a higher HRC stainless alloy/s.
Good info. My take is yes, get “YOUR perfect knife”, AND equally important (imho) is the marriage to a good quality, multi purposed sheath. A sharpen stick AND a fire stick/bar attached onto the sheath. Us “Joe Average” folks have not the skills to sharpen w/ a river rock etc. , & fire is flat out necessary.
I love my esse 6. Your video review of the knife made me choose it for my first special blade and i couldn't be happier.
eliezer vazquez Glad to hear that!
Esee 6 is a solid choice. Bit pricy for me. I like my Bushman.
Thanks for your presentation of these knives. I'm 70 and still love nature and the outdoors. Too many people take much longer to present half as much info. Could say much more but for now just keep on doing what you do here.
MikeC
You still alive?
But, but, but.......... Rambo has survived through Washington State, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Burma with his big knife. Hahahahhahaha!
i'm just wondering about "survival" in general and i just don't get it how long are you going to survive for before either being rescued/find your way/ die ? any knife with a decent steel will (if sharp enough at the beginning) hold its edge long enough to attain any of these ends, so if i have to survive for a longer time i'm either prepared not really survival(thus a sharpening kit) or i'll have absolutely no kit and no knives at all (evasion & escape, plane crash boat wreck)
maybe i'm shortsighted but i just don't get it
my opinion
some experts are predicting WW3 and/or a civil war and/or a depression...
too bad all of this survival stuff costs so much. that Esee-6 is about $200. I just looked up that affordable $40 knife and some guys are showing pics or videos of it breaking - but that is when they use it to chop. That $30 survival shovel seems a decent way to chop, too. $70 for 2 items or $200 for one? Depends on the person, I guess.
I recently rewatched this episode and remembered why your channel is Awesome. Thank you for insights, keep up the great work :))
Can you do a video about your preferences for a smaller companion knife? Like an MSK 2.5, bk14, izula, and anything else.
Man, everybody is different. While I don't like the recurve, that SCHF-9 fits me like a glove & is the most balanced & comfortable big knife I have felt in my hand.
I'm making my very first knife and this video answered a lot questions I had regarding survival knife design! Great way of explaining the do's and don't s. Many thanks!!!
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I tend to agree with all your recommendations and recently purchased and esee 6. Thanks for an excellent, well thought out video. Years ago, I had an experience with uncoated 1095, leather sheaths and rain, would have given anything for just a kydex sheath, but that was back in the late 70's, not much of that around then. Love the esee 6, great knife! Keep up the great work you're doing!
totally agree with the choice of Esee 6. it's not even about what it has, but everything it doesn't have. it doesn't have a narrow clip point, jimping everywhere, weirdly shaped handle, gimmicky grind, serrations, etc. it's just a well made, simple survival knife than can do it all.
I like the ESEE 4 best because of size and weight. I have a pouch on mine for survival gear.
I had a 5....I bought a 4 for My Nephew which I absolutely know would be a better survival knife. I have been using knives for 45 years... I find myself doing far more tasks with a 3- 4 inch blade....
Excellent video! Thanks for defining a survival knife and what characteristics to look for. This is a big help.
OryGun Patriot Glad I could help you out!
Okay, Leather does not retain moisture, if you treat it. I use boiled linseed oil to water proof leather knife sheaths. And you can always use something called Snow Seal. As for cutting it or it wearing out. I guess it depends on how you use it. I think Kydex, is usually too bulky and it rattles. Yes, I have had some experience with Kydex and Cold Steel's Secur-Ex. I have since added to my collection a Khukuri with a 12 inch blade, it is the only knife in my collection I would chop and split wood with. Because, that is what it was designed to do. I will soon have a Khukuri with a six inch blade, should be very useful around camp. As for the "Over Molded" tang on some knives. Well, Buck and Kabar both do that with some of thier knives. And they are still great knives.
Nice job! Stainless gets a bum wrap sometimes. Many knife makers say it takes more care and skill to work with but treated properly it can hold an edge and sharpen up easily. I think it's a good low maintenance choice.
I watched so many amazing reviews about knives regardless if it's bush craft or survival knives because I love knives. And I think this is the best review I ever watched so far. You covered almost everything of the most important aspects of what a true survival knife should be. You exolained it well enough. And I totally agree with all of your opinion. You're such a very good observant person just like me. Keep it.
Seth Ventura Thank you every much. Thank means a lot.
Well done Aaron. Excellent execution and perfectly presented. 2 thumbs up!
I have a BK2, I just removed the nylon belt loop and attached a techlock and I'm still trying out different ways to carry it. I'm not so sure wearing anything scout style in the middle of your back is such a great idea. If you end up falling backwards it seems like that would really mess up your back.
jstorer1980 I carry mine on the straps of the pack I'm carrying usually the maxpedition jumbo or my usmc molle 2 only good way I could figure to carry my bk2
jstorer1980 with the tecloc lol removed the nylon from mine 2
Excellent info. What about some budget blade choices say for knives in the sub $50-$60 range?
TheGoatMumbler The two in the video SCHRADE schf9 or schf37.
I like my esee 6hm. I agree with what you said. Too many people think edge retention is everything.
Great video Aaron! That location at the start of the video... Amazing...
awesome video! You put all factors of survival knives into perspective, gave specific examples, covered all facets including weight, thickness, and more importantly the type of metal. Amazing details and execution considerations. I think the ESEE 6 is my next purchase
Toby Cumbee Thank you very much and you will not be sorry.
Great vids. Really appreciate all the clear concise video without unintelligible jargon. As a n00b to outdoor cutlery this and your other videos have been very helpful. Subbed.
Precious Roy Thanks and welcome to the GT family.
Great job! Very informative, you impart a lot of knowledge in an easy to understand communications style. Your passion comes through and holds interest. I have watched a lot of videos on this subject. This is one of the best.
The very-best discussion on the subject matter that has ever been presented.
This video definitely helped out with what to look for in my survival knife! Thank you again for a great video and review of the knives. I ultimately ended up with the Schrade SCHF52, it included a nylon sheath, and plastic insert and also a ferro rod and striker as well as a sharpening stone with a pocket on the sheath to store the items! thumbs up!
Love my BK7. That and a folding saw satisfy all my camp tasks and bushcraft needs. I’ll add survival to that list, too. No ax, no buck saw.
Probably the best and most informative video on survival knives I've ever watched thank you
Hey here is one "survival" knife seldom reviewed but I reckon it's great, The Italian company, Extrema Ratio's Ontos, just had it EDC basically for one whole month in the jungle/bush LOL.
Survival knife, I'm going with my Bark River, Bravo 1.25 in 3V steel, with a DLT kydex sheath. I pretty much use it everyday and the set up works great. Wish more people would review Bark River, they are a great company and have lots of great designs too. Great video and great advice, I always recommend my friends to watch your channel if they are interested in getting non biased knife reviews.
Great Knive but how u Scharping in the Field 😏 Convex and 3v never ever trust me👈
V grind is better.. And littl Dimond stone from Dmt
Great video brother! I scrolled through the comments and it's really disheartening how many negative people inhabit this planet! Keep up the good work and to hell with the negativity!👊🏼
Good video and excellent points! However, I think most blade/handle designs are all personal preference. For people looking for a blade, personally seeing and touching it is the best way to know if it fits your hand and if its comfortable. Thats how I picked my Schf9. That handle was made for me! Even if the knife is expensive or cheap, do your research! Sheath is the last thing I worry about. Upgrading is an option and it can be personalized to my liking. Practice using your knife too!
Great video, Aaron! Thanks for doing this ... lots of good stuff to consider. (But you made my BK16 a little sad ... it came in a little short to qualify).
I listened to what you have to say holding onto a Dadley. This was a favorite of Mt men during the height of the fur trade in the Rockies. Guys bought these in large numbers at least in part because they did a great job skinning fur bearers but they still over wintered in the Rockies and these blades could do about anything they needed a knife to do and they so don't meet your list.
If I were going to pay any attention to your list at all I'd go with a BK-10 rather than a BK-2. They are both tough and robust but once a knife has all the metal it needs adding more just makes it heavy. Heavy means you don't have it with you when you need it.
Hi...am sorry, what Schrade you had there, in the point explanation? did you made a video about it?
I choose the Gerber prodigy. Was that a descent choice or should I go get something else ? And hello from Kentucky land between the lakes and God bless. 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇨🇦
Couldn't agree more about serrations. I've carried and used knives every day for literally 40 of my 45 years and have never liked or seen a need for them for the very reasons you articulated. My father and grandfathers never did either.
Hi thanks for this great video. But what do you think of the tops bob. My problem is that in the country i live in you arent allowed to carry a knife with you with a bladelength of over 12cm. (= 4.8 inches). Again thank you for your nice channel. Greetings from germany.
Max Heimerl The BOB is a great knife, my only thing is for me it is a little thick for it's size. I would have preferred 0.16 or 0.12 inches thick. I would consider also checking out the TOPS Dragonfly and the TOPS HOG 4.5. All three are great.
Ok thank you for your opinion :-)
I want to get a good knife I'm torn between the tops Bob and the tops tex Creek XL what do u think. i carry a folder, wingman, tops something we will see and a good little ax in the woods
Hey Aaron,
Great video brother! I happen to own both the ESEE 6 and the BK2 and I also happen to find both of them to be my preferred go to knives as well. But I did want to mention a couple of things I have _personally_ found to be of interest.
Although they are both great knives, I do happen to personally find the BK2 handle to be more comfortable and conform to the hand better than the ESEE 6's rather *blocky* handle. I really wish ESEE would make the handles more *round* in cross-section to help with comfort.
The blades themselves however, are a different story. I do prefer the thickness of the ESEE 6 blade over the BK2 simply because the BK2's extremely thick blade can make doing food prep or fine carving rather difficult due to the *very obtuse* saber grind. Whereas the ESEE 6's slimmer, full flat ground blade is more conducive to a wider array of tasks.
But at the end of the day, the *only* thing that makes me sometimes go for the BK2 over the ESEE 6 is the handle! The BK2 is just more comfortable _in my opinion_. But I love ESEE's no questions asked warranty policy on their knives! So you can really go into the woods and not worry about your knife! It's really a *big comfort!* Likewise, even thought Kabar doesn't have the warranty policy that ESEE does, I think you would be *VERY* hard pressed to *EVER* break a BK2... Matter of fact, I think I remember reading somewhere that Kabar stated that they have only ever had a *handful* of BK2's _ever_ come back to their factory!
As for the sheaths, the BK2 *does* come with 2 optional sheaths from the factory. The original molded plastic drop sheath being more along the lines of what you were recommending. Now, I know that Ka-bar had problems with this sheath dulling the knives a while back, but I believe that issue has since been resolved. I also happen to have the ballistic nylon sheath for the BK2 and don't believe that this would really be much, if _any_, more of a burden than kydex or molded plastic personally. You are right, the ballistic nylon sheaths can rattle, but it's never bothered me nor do I find a reason that I would need to be *that* quiet LOL! If there is any rattle, it certainly is not obnoxious enough to where it would actually begin to bother me or get on my nerves. Also, one advantage that the ballistic nylon sheaths have over kydex, is that they usually have a nice little pouch on the front for a ferro rod and/or sharpener which is nice! If your kydex sheath has attachment points, I'm sure you can add on a pouch similar to how you can purchase the molle back and pouch for the ESEE 6 sheath, but once again, that goes against what your shooting for in this video. Your looking for the *most* you can get *stock* from the factory without any *modifications* or *add-ons* and it's for this reason I think the ballistic nylon's pouch is a nice touch!
I think if I had the option to get any style sheath straight from the factory than yes, I would definitely go for Kydex first, then probably molded plastic, then ballistic nylon with the kydex insert. I believe any one of these options are pretty resilient and pretty impervious to weather and moisture. The ballistic nylon may get damp, but will quickly dry out, whereas leather will hold moisture _and rot_ as you mentioned in this video.
In conclusion, the point I'm getting at is that handle comfort in my opinion is *as important*, if not *more important* than the knife itself! Because you could have the most well made knife in the world, but if it's uncomfortable to hold and use for extended periods, you're eventually going to stop using it... It's in this area that I think ESEE could be paying a little bit more attention... If only they could make the sides of their handles more rounded and less *flat & blocky*, their knives would be _almost_ perfect! I say _almost_ perfect because I'm still not a fan of blade coatings. They don't allow for ferro rod usage, and they look like crap once the coating starts getting worn off... The textured coatings are also generally *rough* and make it much harder to push cut due to the increased friction and drag created by the rough coating. I would rather a polished blade and deal with keeping it oiled and/or force a patina.
Great job Aaron! You did a wonderful job touching upon all very valid points to be concerned with when looking for a good survival knife! I love these videos! =) Keep at it brother!
PS- TurtleWolf Pack is right about a few things too. American Tanto blades are not hard to resharpen. As he said, they are merely treated as two separate straight blades - easy!
Recurved blades however are a pain in the ass! The Schrade SCHF9 in this video is a recurve pattern, however nothing was mentioned about it's blade shape. The steeper the recurve, the narrower the sharpening stone has to be to get into the recurved belly properly! Most of the time however, you just have to resort to using a sharpening rod of some type. The problem with sharpening rods is that they not only don't allow you to really effectively sharpen the tip of your knife, but also will easily round off and blunt the tip of your knife if your not careful! You really _should_ use a flat stone if you want to keep a well defined, sharp tip on your knife.
Personally, I would much rather carry a Tanto blade into the woods rather than a recurve blade. I would just make sure that the Tanto *did not* have a swedge. But in general, I agree with you in that I just prefer a simple standard blade shape.
***** Right on, thank you for the comment and points you made. I appreciate hearing from your experience.
gideonstactical just edited the post and added to it FYI =)
Great video. As always really appreciate your thoughts on the subject.
So you would also suggest kydex or molded plastic boots due to that water retention thing?
Hey Aaron. Great tips. Can I ask: Does the black powder coating detract from a blades firestarting potential???? Specifically asking about 1095/1075 HC steel...
I'm now carrying the Esee Junglas II for my survival knife. I find the few extra oz and still under 20 oz. Make it better at chopping and isn't way too long.
I like your video and agree with most of what you said. I just got some knives shipped today and can hardly wait to u box them. I got a Mora and a Schrade 52. They should take care of most of the tasks I will need. Being on a low/no budget for about $50.00 I am now a HAPPY CAMPER!
how do you feel about piggy back systems? like take a BK7 and strap and eskabar to the the sheath so you have the best of both worlds
He hates piggyback systems for a unknown reason
What about D2 tool steel? Is it tough enough for a 5 or 6 inch survival knife? I make knives and I am wondering whether to use D2 instead of 5160.
You really should check out the Ritter-Becker RSK MK2. It's more or less an esee 6 with on choil (and a thumb ramp) with the Becker handle. It's even a Rowen made blade! It's a gooder
Sweet I like to go backpacking with your reccommended esee 6, leatherman wave and a fiskars hatchet
Macho Nacho Glad to hear it, that is a great set up!
Gideon'stactical where is this video shot? Looks like Utah.
I cary edc folding blades all the time. My favorite is the full size Griptilian. Not that I found that I am getting into and doing research on fixed knife fir vehicle bag. I live in Nor Cal, very rural city environment. for that reason not looking for a large huge blade. I love the BK22 & LMF2. I feel they are great but tank like blades. I'm now pretty much looking at Esee RC 4/5. Thanks for the videos love the channel.
I'd still consider the Ontario Spec Plus line survival knives. Haven't had any problems with mine.
i finally bought a ESEE 6 !! Thanks for your nice videos and advise again.
Badagry 76 Sweet! Glad you like it.
I am interested to know if there are knives out there that are 7/32" in thickness? The other issue I have with most knives are the finger grip, choil and finger guard combinations. I notice that most that have this feature and have to blade terminate where the finger choil is and are a part of the finger guard. The esee 6 is what I am talking about and I find this quite an annoying design flaw as I've seen some severe injuries from this type of design. Both the Schrade knives have a way better designed finger grip and not flawed like the esee 6. I want to see more knife makers worry less about aesthetics and more about functionality and durability.
Hi again Aaron! Man, that was a truly awesome & entertaining video...& you didn't even do any field tests bc they have already been done by you. I love my ESEE 6 & you are the one that recommended it to me! "HANDS DOWN" LOL. Thanks.
Im still happy you recommended the esee 6 a while back to me... it is even better than i expected for me with my big hands... i recently bought the molle back for it for more carry versatility and the button snap is a good secure feeling when carrying her inverted... one of my most loved blades!... greets...
I just do camping, but I want to buy a very good knife, I have seen many videos of different kind of knife, but this one that you have made have a very good information, Thank for all details you have narrated and described for what to look in a survival knife.
Possilbly your best video to date. I use the Fallkniven A1 but I can't argue with any of your opinions.
TheOgieone Thanks for the complement!
Fallkniven A1, S1 and F1 are awsome. Dont know if the convex grind is hard to sharpen in the field? The spines can strike firesteels too and skrape tinder, so thats a pluss. I still would go for the 1095 over the laminated VG-10, because i have chipped my F1 a few times. It does hold an edge better than the 1095, so i guess you have to choose whats important for you. Living in Norway i like the plastic sheats the best. Kydex is not the best in cold klimates, but down to minus 10 degrees celsius its fine. Great video and great comment on the Fallknivens!
Aaron, I agree with everything you say in this video. I have a question ... I'm looking for a knife basically like the ESEE 6, but with a 5" - 5 1/2" blade. I, like you, prefer the full flat grind, and a drop point blade. I'd also rather have a 3/16" thickness, so that rules out the BK2 and the ESEE 5 (too thick) - and the Ontario Blackbird (too thin). Any suggestions? Thanks!
rlauck I'm looking at the Becker BK10 for that category. It's not a drop point, but the clip(for stabbing in an emergency) is short, and still leaves you with a lot of spine(for a 5 1/2" blade) for batoning, draw knife etc. I don't need a BK2, because I already have the heavy Nowell MOD3 survival knife(7" blade drop point, quarter inch thick, full tang, 1085 low to mid fifties Rockwell, so just about indestructible for prying, hammering, digging, batoning, blunt instrument etc).
+rlauck look up the GSO 5.1 by SURVIVE! knives
where is the esee 5?
Great video! I'm going to get the Esee 6. Thanks
I'm okay with my elmax 5150 field knife. Great all around blade. I make sure I have a stone to keep it sharp in the bug out bag. The idea is to get good at keeping it sharp before shtf.
i packed a 440c for years not once did fail me tell drug addic stole it it was so good ill be going back to one soon ive looked at lot new knife thay can get close to my old 440c
That was excellent. I took notes and I'm still looking for that perfect, and actual, 'wilderness survival knife'. The one's recommended are certainly up there for contenders but I'm still researching. Thank you for the views and examples.
Some people knock the ESEE 6's plastic sheath, but it will cover more environmental situations than the Kydex. Here in AZ if you leave Kydex in your vehicle on a hot summer day, the Kydex will will dis-form and the sheath will become loose and open up making the fit loose. Kydex can also become more brittle in the Cold. Now the thickness of the Kydex used makes a huge difference in this regard so if you run a Kydex sheath I would use a minimum thickness of 0.093" or else there will more issues.
What's your opinion on the RAT 7 ? Seems like an identical knife, with just a slightly longer blade and a different sheath.
Where did you buy this knife at. And what is your best choice for a bushcraft knife
Awesome video as always. Really enjoy your channel.
Just ordered the esee 6 and izula both with TKC custom handle scales
Keep up the good work.
youth89xx Very cool.
I find that the upper limit for a 'knife' is around 7 inch blade, bigger than that is moving into a chopping tool. I like ESSE knives but they pricey, I can buy the near equivalent Ontario RAT 7, sheath is OK for me.
but my long time question.. how u can protect the knife against rust in the wilderness? some oily plants, fat or something??
I really appreciated all your knowledge and insight. I watched your review of the Tops Silent Hero and will be ordering it next week. I live in the high desert of eastern Oregon and would rather have the quiet of the leather over the kydex. Great information in a clear concise and unbiased review, thank you.
Totally agree with you/ Esee 6 for sure. However I also love my Esee 5/ it's a beast as well.
Great videos you put out. I'm a big fan.
Keep doing them.
Stay safe.
Why can't you carry a ESEE 3 and a Bahco Laplander Folding Saw?
One of your best vids! Yes, I realize it is over 4 years old now, but I just found it. So I agree that the Esee 6 is a great one, but my personal criteria includes a sub-$100 price point...actually well "sub" haha! You can't hit all the criteria at that price-point, but you can come close with the Schrade 52, and it is only 37 bucks. Its got the ballistic nylon sheath, although a good one, and it is a sabre hollow ground blade. Being this is 1/4" thick stock I don't mind a slight hollow grind. There are advantages in cutting tasks with this style blade too. Anyway, great vid!
Enjoyed your video very much.... a very well informed tutorial on Survival Knives, the important thing to remember is the Survival Knife has to perform various tasks good not great. The "Unknowns" of a real world survival situation demand as much preparation and informed information as possible when choosing your knife. The point must be made that the BK2 Gen2 one of the knives featured in this video is not a full tang knife.....remove the scales and you will find it has a hollow tang. My personal belief that the "Unknowns" that may present itself in a real world survival situation demand a full tang solid steel knife, failure of your Survival Knife may have life changing consequences. I do own and have used the Gen2 BK2, SCHF9, SCHF36 and Esee5. My personal criteria of a bet your life on Survival Knife is,1/4 thick drop point blade ,full solid steel tang, good ergonomics and construction (1095 steel). Therefore the Esee5 not mentioned in this video meets my personal criteria and is the knife of my choice when or if that day ever comes. Thanks again for the video Gideonstactical!
David Waters Thanks for the comment and insight.
Say Heah Aaron, Usually I don't go smaller than a 6" blade. Like my Modde Rodent 6, my A-1 or my new Arvensis 119, But because my Modified Attitude is stout, I can trust it as a Survival Knife also. Job well done as usual. Thanx You. ,, .
I carry multiple blades a terrasaur a rat 7 and an off grid tracker x I just recently bought a skrama
I agree that plastic/kydex sheaths are better, however, I have found that leather and nylon sheaths are much more quiet than kydex or plastic. Just my experience.
This video came up in my feed today and, of course, I had to watch it again. 😉
I believe the TOPS Tahoma Field Knife is one of the best all around “survival knives”. One of my Tahoma’s is in my Jeep kit, and the other is my backup knife in my main wilderness bag.
But my go-to blades when I’m headed out to the wilds, that I always carry, are the TOPS Armageddon and Brakimo.
Great description; however, I feel that 90 degree spine as described by Mr. Canterbury is a very important feature that must be included. Of course, your best knife, the ESEE man lol... Gracias
I have a BK2 with Micarta and an Izula 2 right now. I think they go well together. Definitely need to mod the BK2 sheath. I'll be getting custom Kydex. Why the Esee 6 over the Esee 5? My guess is more weight makes it a better chopper comparable to the BK2, yet the full flat grind helps with tasks like skinning.
Christopher W The ESEE5 is very uncomfortable handle compared to the BK2 or ESEE6.
British Army MOD knife. Great video dude!
After six years are you still using the Esee 6 or have you found a better knife?
what if the handle is simple but a design on it for decoration like the schrade schf14?
Thx for the vid. I really liked your approach to things. What would you change now?
What is your opinion about the Becker BK-7, the knife itself, not the sheath?
I live in Sweden kinda close to the sea, do you think the ESEE 6 could handle the climate or do i have to get an stainless steel knife ?
Couldn’t agree more. Love my 6
I know I’m kinda late, but this is a great video, lots of good info. Thanks.
AWESOME video Aaron! and great topic, I fully agree with your conclusion!
Keep up the top work
I agree with you on the esee 6 only cause of the sheath and micarta but the better knife if you upgrade is the bk7
i agree with the choice of the esee 6 but my main issue is that a lot of shops (online at least) sell the knife without a sheath, which you have to buy separately which then increases the cost significantly, i am in the netherlands so might just be an issue here but could u recommend a webshop link (that ships to the Netherlands, i know its a very specific request) because i think i will otherwise go with the bekker bk 2 which comes with a kydex sheath
Very helpful video.For about 2 years I've been looking for a survival knife for my BOB,and the ESSE 6 is what I have been looking to buy.Now I know that is the knife to buythanks to your video.
305ssmonte Glad I could help.
What is the large knife at 0:07? Thanks
Awesome vids, brother. I have a couple questions, though. 1. Does the Ontario RAT 7 serve as a lower cost alternative to the esee 6 sighing this videos guidelines? 2. Would you recommend carrying something like the SRK along with the more suitable knives? 3. Can you please do a video about a 2 or 3 knife system and what to look for/your recommendations. Thanks.
Michael Clark I do plan an making a few videos to help with those type of questions. The Rat7 is a good knife, but I usually see it for around $85 on amazon.com, and the ESEE6 is $113 at knifeworks.com it is better to save a little more and get the ESEE6. The srk is a good knife, and would be a fine knife to pair with a bigger knife like and RTAK II, BK9, or ESEE Junglas. Hope that helps you.
By far the best video I've seen on that topic so far. Really appreciate your effort. Thanks for sharing!
Best regards from Munich,
Stefan
OutdoorFamilyAdventure Glad I could help!