Hello, Prof. Raja. Thanks very much. I hope you respond. If a writer from a previously colonised country praises the coloniser, what do we call them? Are there any poets or writers who praised colonialism at the expense of their native country? Writers like V.S Naipaul and salman rushdie or Khalid Hosseini are called neoorientalists? What do we call a poet or a writer with a double nationality who praised colonisers at the expense of his first native country?? Thanks so much
Great Video, Dr. Raja! I have a few contradictory/ additional points that will help us (re)think Neo-Orientalism as an addendum to Orientalism (like you say Neo-Orientalism has to be a part of a bigger discourse. Well Ali Behdad and Hamid Dabashi have already said what I just said about Neo-orientalism being an "addendum" to Orientalism!). Neo-Orientalism has a nature of its own, and it has incommensurate tropes (unlike Said's Orientalism) in different geopolitical locales. Neo-Orientalism is a living concern and is heavily under-theorized. It is now perpetuated by thinktanks, media, governmental institutions, and of course western academia. I recommend Asef Bayat's works for this! When it comes to writers, especially Indian and Pakistani writers, if they have a journalistic pretense of the entirety of Pakistan or India in their novels when selling to the western market, I would call that Neo-Orientalism. Of course, this is content-specific (and I have to read those novels before I comment further), but exoticizing holds specific nuances of representation, which I would then argue is easy for Western consumer culture to hold as mainstream Pakistani or Indian representation. That would then be Neo-Orientalism. I would like to discuss this more at length! This is of course my first book project! Again, this is a very informational space. Thank you for doing it!
Thank you. As long as your project shows a clear understanding of Orientalism, you will be fine in defining a discussing it. My point was that simple pandering by diasporic authors to metropolitan audiences does not qualify as neo Orientalism as it can be covered under so many other registers and also under Orientalism itself.
@@maryamkaatal7083 Start with this and then follow other related videos to this, all listed in Eagleton Playlist: th-cam.com/video/ONhklYy21wE/w-d-xo.html
Respected Dr. Masood Raja, the description of Neo-Orientalism and Neo-Orientalist is lucid, clear, and concise in this video. I myself did my MS English from International Islamic University Islamabad. The theory that I applied to critique American Popular Fiction (Princess, Daughters of Arabia, and Desert Royal by Jean Sasson) and came up with shocking findings that how neo-orientalists have strong connections with their ancestors (classical-Orientalists). These Noe-Orientalists re-orientalise the orient through popular fiction, popular media, and films. Here I am still confused, people like Rushdie, Tariq Fateh, and many such types of people are backed and supported by the Orientalists' institutions and white supremacists groups and individuals. Won't such Pakistani writers be considered as Neo-Orientalist?
I still maintain that while these authors do pander in the Postcolonial exotica, and if they do then it is still a form of orientalism. For it to be neo orientalism it has to have a corresponding discourse and knowledge power nexus. I highly recommend Aijaz Ahmad’s “In Theory”
Thank you so much. I'll go through Ahmed's book. I followed you on Linkedin sir. I was looking for you mailing address but couldn't. How can I contact you sir?
Learn English With Sahir My email is listed on the about page of the channel. Just visit that page on a computer and you should have the option to email me.
Thank you. Sorry, I cannot respond to this here but Said had already covered it in Covering Islam and there are quite a few other works already on the subject. I have also tackled it in most of my published work.
@@masoodraja Thanks. Since there is a lot of work done on this topic, it is a bit difficult to develop an argument. I am just looking for a unique argument so I was wondering whether I should look for media portrayals or literary productions? An argument related to 'radicalization' would be great if you could suggest some possibilities. If it is difficult to explain here, it is not a problem and thank you.
What do you think about Subaltern Studies Group popularly known as SSG initiated by Ranajit Goha(with his team members gayan Panday, partha chatter Ji, David Arnold, and many more) .. Till now twenty volumes have been published.
I am sorry I do not know much about any theorists. It just comes up every now and then. There are probably a few articles which will show up if you do a search.
@@saminayasmin7443 Said theorized Orientalism. My whole point is that the term neoorientalism is not needed. Please look up the term and see what comes up. There is also a FB group on it.
Thank you Sir for these insights. I am always trying to make the difference between orientalism and new orientalism... most of the time I found that new orientalism deals with the Islamic world in particular whereas orientalism is not a religious representation of the orient is that true?
Sorry, for me Orientalism applies both to the Islamic as well as non Islamic part of the orient and can be expanded to cover any large discourse that creates a way of looking at a culture or region through a discursively produced lens. Please read the book carefully and you will notice that Islam is already included in it so there is no need to call it neo Orientalism. Please also try to watch my videos on the book.
@@masoodraja but sir Lisa Lau has published 2 books on it. Secondly, Orientalism is described as description of orients by occidents while Reorientalism is described as description of Oriental culture by orients. I was just confused between Re Orientalism and Neo Orientalism and now I'm more confused 😢
@@googleuser7379 Please read Orientalism carefully. It is not about individual representations but rather about something systemic. I don’t see any such large discourse at play in the works of postcolonial writers to call it re Orientalism. But if their argument appeals to you then you can obviously work with that. I disagree with their premise but I have not published anything on it yet.
Hello, Prof. Raja. Thanks very much. I hope you respond.
If a writer from a previously colonised country praises the coloniser, what do we call them?
Are there any poets or writers who praised colonialism at the expense of their native country?
Writers like V.S Naipaul and salman rushdie or Khalid Hosseini are called neoorientalists?
What do we call a poet or a writer with a double nationality who praised colonisers at the expense of his first native country??
Thanks so much
Thank you. I do not have any precise terms for it. People have sometimes used the term native informants. I do not use any such terms.
What about reorientalism. It has a discourse behind it?
I do not think the term is necessary but if you feel strongly about it, feel free to use it but first read Said carefully
Great Video, Dr. Raja! I have a few contradictory/ additional points that will help us (re)think Neo-Orientalism as an addendum to Orientalism (like you say Neo-Orientalism has to be a part of a bigger discourse. Well Ali Behdad and Hamid Dabashi have already said what I just said about Neo-orientalism being an "addendum" to Orientalism!). Neo-Orientalism has a nature of its own, and it has incommensurate tropes (unlike Said's Orientalism) in different geopolitical locales. Neo-Orientalism is a living concern and is heavily under-theorized. It is now perpetuated by thinktanks, media, governmental institutions, and of course western academia. I recommend Asef Bayat's works for this!
When it comes to writers, especially Indian and Pakistani writers, if they have a journalistic pretense of the entirety of Pakistan or India in their novels when selling to the western market, I would call that Neo-Orientalism. Of course, this is content-specific (and I have to read those novels before I comment further), but exoticizing holds specific nuances of representation, which I would then argue is easy for Western consumer culture to hold as mainstream Pakistani or Indian representation. That would then be Neo-Orientalism. I would like to discuss this more at length! This is of course my first book project! Again, this is a very informational space. Thank you for doing it!
Thank you. As long as your project shows a clear understanding of Orientalism, you will be fine in defining a discussing it. My point was that simple pandering by diasporic authors to metropolitan audiences does not qualify as neo Orientalism as it can be covered under so many other registers and also under Orientalism itself.
Your publication on this topic. Can u share the link
I do not have a specific publication on this topic. But you can find my publications here: postcolonial.net/publications/
Thanku
Well elaborated..it was a great help sir
Thank you!
@@masoodraja sir do you have a video on structuralism?
@@maryamkaatal7083 Start with this and then follow other related videos to this, all listed in Eagleton Playlist: th-cam.com/video/ONhklYy21wE/w-d-xo.html
Respected Dr. Masood Raja, the description of Neo-Orientalism and Neo-Orientalist is lucid, clear, and concise in this video. I myself did my MS English from International Islamic University Islamabad. The theory that I applied to critique American Popular Fiction (Princess, Daughters of Arabia, and Desert Royal by Jean Sasson) and came up with shocking findings that how neo-orientalists have strong connections with their ancestors (classical-Orientalists). These Noe-Orientalists re-orientalise the orient through popular fiction, popular media, and films.
Here I am still confused, people like Rushdie, Tariq Fateh, and many such types of people are backed and supported by the Orientalists' institutions and white supremacists groups and individuals. Won't such Pakistani writers be considered as Neo-Orientalist?
I still maintain that while these authors do pander in the Postcolonial exotica, and if they do then it is still a form of orientalism. For it to be neo orientalism it has to have a corresponding discourse and knowledge power nexus. I highly recommend Aijaz Ahmad’s “In Theory”
Thank you so much. I'll go through Ahmed's book. I followed you on Linkedin sir. I was looking for you mailing address but couldn't. How can I contact you sir?
Learn English With Sahir My email is listed on the about page of the channel. Just visit that page on a computer and you should have the option to email me.
@@masoodraja sure sir
thanks a lot
Thanks. How would you connect neo-orientalist discourse to Islamophobia? What possible trajectories are there?
Thank you. Sorry, I cannot respond to this here but Said had already covered it in Covering Islam and there are quite a few other works already on the subject. I have also tackled it in most of my published work.
@@masoodraja Thanks. Since there is a lot of work done on this topic, it is a bit difficult to develop an argument. I am just looking for a unique argument so I was wondering whether I should look for media portrayals or literary productions? An argument related to 'radicalization' would be great if you could suggest some possibilities. If it is difficult to explain here, it is not a problem and thank you.
I guess only you can decide the right topic after you have done some preliminary research.
Sir , who coined this term neo-orientalism
Thank you. I am not sure but some people do use it. See if you can look it up.
What do you think about Subaltern Studies Group popularly known as SSG initiated by Ranajit Goha(with his team members gayan Panday, partha chatter Ji, David Arnold, and many more) .. Till now twenty volumes have been published.
I like their work. Here is one of my webinars on it: th-cam.com/video/7NEHv-WOEWg/w-d-xo.html
Who is the theorist of neo-orientalism, i need to apply?
I am sorry I do not know much about any theorists. It just comes up every now and then. There are probably a few articles which will show up if you do a search.
@@masoodraja i think Edward Said is theorist of neo-orientalism,,plz share those articles.
@@saminayasmin7443 Said theorized Orientalism. My whole point is that the term neoorientalism is not needed. Please look up the term and see what comes up. There is also a FB group on it.
Sir please can you name a book of the Huggan where he talks about neo orientalism?
Thank you. Sorry, I don’t think I have read any books on the subject.
Thank you Sir for your insights. Best wishes from India.
So nice of you!!
Thankyou so much sir! This was quite enlightening.
You are welcome.
Thank you Sir for these insights. I am always trying to make the difference between orientalism and new orientalism... most of the time I found that new orientalism deals with the Islamic world in particular whereas orientalism is not a religious representation of the orient is that true?
Sorry, for me Orientalism applies both to the Islamic as well as non Islamic part of the orient and can be expanded to cover any large discourse that creates a way of looking at a culture or region through a discursively produced lens. Please read the book carefully and you will notice that Islam is already included in it so there is no need to call it neo Orientalism. Please also try to watch my videos on the book.
@@masoodraja I will thank you for your reply
Sir Please make a video about Re-Orientalism.
Thank you. Sorry, I do not believe in that concept and whatever people ascribe to it is pretty much covered by Orientalism
@@masoodraja but sir Lisa Lau has published 2 books on it. Secondly, Orientalism is described as description of orients by occidents while Reorientalism is described as description of Oriental culture by orients. I was just confused between Re Orientalism and Neo Orientalism and now I'm more confused 😢
@@googleuser7379 Please read Orientalism carefully. It is not about individual representations but rather about something systemic. I don’t see any such large discourse at play in the works of postcolonial writers to call it re Orientalism. But if their argument appeals to you then you can obviously work with that. I disagree with their premise but I have not published anything on it yet.
@@masoodraja thanks a lot for your guidance sir 💐
It's a great help sir
Great to know. You are welcome.