Sonya doesn't have highest damage in the game. Baraka and Spawn do more damage. Also, Geras was strongest character prepatch because he had 80% combos.
I mean even Sonicfox said there is no bad character, with some you just rly have to try harder to get results. in the end its just the player and shao kahn for example still wins some tournaments.
@Jack Not really though if I’m fighting myself with two different characters the character who has more tools and is statically better will win out majority wise
@Jack Yeah but that’s not a actual point it’s obvious that a better player would beat a worse player but it doesn’t matter your skill level because better characters will still win out when fighting a equal opponent who is playing a weaker character like the dude that quoted Sonicfox any character can be used effectively but there’s a reason why even one of the best pro players mains Joker how good a character is will always matter I get why your brain doesn’t let you realize that simple point it’s a defense mechanism I’m guessing you play a character that is either simple or common rated pretty high I’m not shit talking I play Erron black and Barracka both easy characters to play but don’t dilute facts with what you want to be the whole truth
@@trancandy1 Not sure about Nightwolf. But all others can be played well. I think Kollector is also one of the more difficult to play characters. You could consider him bad, but that is just how you play him. Just a Funfact: One of the MK Tournament winners won with Shao Kahn. I think Scorpion is one of the best characters in low tiers but becomes very difficult to play against high tier players. This big disadvantage is that everyone knows his movesets, strengths and weaknesses by heart.
@@fenfire3824 yeah there are definitely characters who are mediocre, which translates to bad against really insane characters. i can't speak too much on nightwolf, because i haven't played him very much. shameful since i'm native american lol. but i really do think that nrs did a good job at balancing these characters and making them all solid in a vacuum. maybe i'm just biased since she's my main but i think skarlet is one of the characters who really needs a boost
@@trancandy1 Yes you are probably right. I think MK in generall is the best balanced beat em up you can play. I haven't played injustice, because it is basicly the same with other characters but the same game mechanics, it may also fit into it. But other games like Soul Calibur doesn't even come close. It is difficult to say, which char needs a buff and which does not. As a scorpion player, i don't like, that you have to spend so many attack bars. It changes alot, if you have the fire spear buff active. But this also limits you too much. Without the buff, other characters like Spawn feel kinda OP. I don't play with the spear because i play with the advanced hell port build. And sometimes, it feels like all the damage i do in several combos are nullified by other chars with just one punisher. And that is annoying. e.G. Sub Zero does almost 40% dmg if his slide hits you the third time while amplified. Good players try to split it, so in the first round they don't use the third one and it is like 40% damage in round two for free. It is almost impossible, to be able to prevent this, if your oppononent is a good player. Unless you win all your matches with flawless victories... Same for Spawn, what realy frustrates, if you want to break out of his combo, you will lose two defense bars. And if you do not, you will lose 50% health... In my opinion, some very few characters are actually very noobfriendly. And that is the only downside for this game. I know, lots of people consider scorpion also a noob character. But what most people realy do not see, is how easy it is to block all scorpions attacks and how easy you can punish scorpion. He has almost nothing safe on block, his combo starters are very unsafe, have bad framedata and because so many players use scorpion, almost everyone knows his attack patterns. And you can down punch almost everytime first. Which makes scorpion actually realy difficult to play on top tiers. You need to be very tricky, try some feints lure your opponent into traps. Why do i tell all this, because i bet my ass, lots of scorpion players would complain alot, while most of the other players would complain, scorpion is too strong. There are some characters, which start shining if you know when and how you can interrupt your opponents. If you can do this, you are on a nother level as a player, and i think, it doesn't matter alot which character you play anyway :D
I appreciate all the the work that is put into this, it’s been really helpful not only for picking a main but also for better understanding matchups online, thanks!
Mileena needs buffing. Like you said, people should be able to special cancel her string into a ball etc. She needs way too many meters to deal a great amount of damage. To have the Telekick in mid Air, you need a slot, then you must equip Stabbyscotch for extra damage which is easily punishable, and Play time is a must to extend her combos. As a clone to Kitana, she should have almost the same level as her sister, with Low Sais and Normal one like Kitana and FASTER starting times cause they made her super weak compares to MKX. She was fun to play, but now she's really hard to go with without risking getting punished for every single move.
some revisions here: -Sonya no longer has the most damage in the game. That's either Shao or Noob. -Raiden is STILL not good. He relies on a gimmick (stagger B12, or to cell/throw) for success and when it doesn't work, he struggles. -Kabal is no longer underrated. Everyone knows he's easily a top 10 character and his air slight gas is BUSTED. -His name is KANE, not Kano. -Sub Zero is a carry character, I'd argue against him being THE carry. Lao and Jade are MASSIVE carry characters. I would say Jade is the biggest carry character. -Erron has 50/50s and can be a pain online. B22 is minus but can be cancelled into scud shot and it's not easy to react to the scud cancel IF he doesn't amp it. -Rambo is a low tier character mainly because he is SLOW. -Kollector is just outside of an S tier character. Has one of the best armor breaks in the game, a teleport for safety, great damage, great range, 50/50s, and a mid command grab. He's more than OK. -Just to add to Cetrion, her chip damage is completely fucked. -Kitana has some of the best zoning in the game with her low fan, normal fan, and sai throw. -Fujin is a top tier, braindead character. B2 functions like Geras' sand trap, it controls the screen making it feel like you cannot move. Sky Wakka cancels are a nightmare to deal with online. Also why do people always bring up Geras' krush damage and NEVER bring up Jax's krush damage? Jax has just as many, if not more, krushing blows than Geras and they all do INSANE damage yet no one ever talks about Jax's krushes.
thank you for this i am trying to main rain and you gave me really good tips i try and do his combos too much and barely use his specials now i know to use his specials more than actual combos
No one ever actually uses king Laos best move. The spirit stance can lead to perfect grabs big combos and great pressure. I’ve mained him since the game babe out and it sucks to watch everyone ignore that ability
You made a great video ! I wish proplayer or NRS do that for their mains, that would help us a lot and encourage people to not go for easy character ! And I m impressed by your knowledge of the game, you must be a really good player ! I’ll sub ^^
New to MK11 and PlayStation after last playing MK4 way back then. Jumped into Kabal straight away, then Fujin and now Noob. Old school favourites. Sad that they made Jaqueline and Joker top tier as they hold no sentiment and would be forgotten if never brought back
I appreciate this video. I've been looking for match-up videos for each character, but can't find any. This is the closest thing to it. I definitely appreciate this video though.
thanks. i haven't really done match up videos but it's a good idea to start doing. What is your character? 'bad' match ups for joker: th-cam.com/video/DRpC8qTfmlE/w-d-xo.html
Ngl I loved geras, while it’s true he may have trouble getting in, the f+3 is very valuable to me and the end to that move can lead to great set ups for when your opponent wakes up
Good video. Just got the game on Switch. Didn't play MK since MK4. Interested in good old Sub Zero, Raiden, Kung Lao, Kitana, Jade and smiling 95 movie Shang Tsung, as with newcomers Cetrion, Kollector and Erron Black... Not counting Arnold, Sylvester and Alex Murphy !! It's just overwhelming !!!! Your video helps a lot. And i understand while i can"t do cool things with Kung !
I think mids are only usefull if you can start a combo with as a stagger or if it is safe on block. Otherwithesy, almost all mids are realy bad. I didn't understand, why you said, mids are important. Do i miss somethink? Biggest problem are reversal players, if you like to play with a character which has no 50/50s or no safe on block attacks. # Shao Kahn has a strong unblockable attack and a lot of 50/50s, his combos are also super easy to learn. # Spawn has an unblockable attack which does alot of damage. # D'vorah has also a super annoying teleport attack which is actually slightly better than scorpions hell port, because it is an overhead from above, which you cannot duck block. In addition if enhanced it pushes the enemy away and is almost safe on block, so your opponent cannot punish you in most cases. # Scorpion has a combo, where the game doesn't count the combo higher in mid (Guess it is a bug) where you can perform an 60-70% combo because of it. But you need to do an armor break after a teleport and i never had any opponent doing so. The only people i know doing an armor break after a teleport is myself and some youtubers :D Mileena is actually strong aswell if played with the right skillset. Maybe not the best but you totally underrated her. She is not easy to play but if you are a good mileena player you have high chances to beat everyone else, no matter what character you play against her. She may not have the highest dmg combos, but that is not that important. She has fast and weird looking moves which are difficult to react on, also lots of 50/50s. She probably wont deal 40-50 combos but she can easily perform 2 200 dmg combos in a row which you cannot block. # Fujin also becomes strong if you change the skillset alot. His Sky Wakka is super annoying aswell and for some characters difficult to punish. # Rain has a cancel which is great and his lightning strike is a good anti zone. So just to mention.
Mids are useful cause if you know your enemy only uses highs, you can micro duck every time and he basically does almost nothing IF you know how,and you do it
@@OctopusH2O I never had this kind of situation. And i played in the top tiers in pvp. Some minds there are good, because they are safe on block. But i never saw many players waiting for an opportunity to counter high attacks. You do poking a lot but only to interrupt their attacksm because poking is just OP in regards of frame benefits. I don't know how it will chang in mk1, but i hope mids will push more, that even if they won't be always have better frames, you could at least keep some characters like sonya, jonny cage or liu kang a bit away. It could be a good addition for zoning characters, so your mid may help to keep your own perfect distance. But i never had issues with players countering my high attacks by doing duck attacks. Of course poking as said, but you can always poke, just because it is faster. And i don't see poking as a real problem. It does little damage and mostly it is more annoying and strategic, it has little impact on the dmg outcome. It is mostly defensive.
I disagree with large parts of this video and have support for it, it’s not taken into account how easily countered most *good* characters are since they have mostly high attacks, jaqui is exceptionally strong even offline, and I literally laughed when he called Kano mid tier. A lunging mid thats plus on block allowing you to throw, cancel into snakebite, stagger for a quick string to open up, or cancel into enhanced knife toss for a restand and fear mongering any attempt to take turn after the F1, if it connects you’re plus and can dash and throw, dash and 24 or 22, if you open someone up with the 24 you can meterburn and get 330 easily, you’ve got a great 50/50, both of his go to strings are completely safe, he has one of the best armor breakers in the game that meterlessly rest and sat any point in any combo, has great scaling, and allows for throw pressure, and the 50/50 games with the command grab which ticks off of his 24, which reminder, gets you 330 easily, he has a KB on both throws. Case, and, point.
Kano is considered mid tier. That is the general consensus in the community. Maybe we will see him higher in tierlists after this weplay tournament. His f1 is a problem.
@@Jolfvaka I also disagree with his F1 being a problem, at high level play from biohazard and sik we see more of the 24 into his CG than F1 into anything, his damage is good when you learn his tech, 375 for one bar, 405 for two, he has more jails than most of the roster, some of the best framed data in the game period, right next to sheeva, jax, and jaquie. The general consensus is a huge downplay, just like when I was playing kotal last year and everyone said he was too slow to be good, but now look where he’s being placed on tier lists. It’s all a lack of knowledge putting him mid tier, much like a handful of characters in the game.
I really liked this video. Very quick and to the point on the basic break down of each fighter. Plan on doing any more of these videos for other games? How about making a tier list based on more than just "who is the best character", but instead a tier list on which characters excels in certain categories: Zoning, 50/50s, frame data, neutral, combo damage, mobility....some characters might not be high tier, but excel at doing a certain thing. Ya know? You could make multiple tier lists for all of these categories for players that are looking for a character that excels at a specific thing. Just an idea.
Pretty much spot on for the most part. The only real disagreements I would have is that Fujin is easily top 5 in the hands of a player who knows how to use him, which you kinda eluded to. He's the hardest character to use in the game. I would also disagree that Rambo is good. He's definitely low tier. The only other thing I would say is that I WISH Noob had good staggers. If he did, I would use him a lot more. His staggers aren't total trash, but he has literally no range on his grab and sub-par mobility, which makes capitalizing on his staggers a pain in the ass. All-in-all, a really good breakdown of the roster. I was happy to see you shit on Erron Black, and it's about time someone gave Raiden his props. He's boring as fuck to use, but he's well-rounded. Too bad Netherrealm isn't doing anything else with MK11 in terms of buffing/nerfing characters. They still had a lot of work to do. It's a crime that Shao Kahn is objectively the worst character in the game. They did him dirty.
It would be no different to from forcing Liu Kang to spend 2 slots to access his bicycle kick, but giving the same move to Rain free of charge in his standard moveset. Wtf?
I kinda disagree with rains water ball being a good anti zoning tool since you can duck it and it’s pretty slow the best anti zoning tool rain has I would say would be his rift moves like the one that absorbs projectiles and the other one that closes the distance if done in the air
I know this is old, but Sonya is a Bottom 3 character and is basically a joke character now. She can’t zone without Offensive Meter and her damage output is poor overall due to being unable to really combo without KBs or an unsafe High-Overhead-Mid string. She can’t up a bag of potato chips without huge risk due to having crap Mids and Lows, which is fantastic due to having stubby range and a measly 950 HP.
I like the character break downs but i do have 1 problem and its not big its just a nitpick I just think its kinda weird for you to tell a new player whether a character is good or not. I think subconsciously that makes people hesitate with picking who they like Again its a nitpick but 🤷🏾
Agree with all of these. Except my bby D'Vorah 🥰 lol all jokes aside, she's low tier but she's so fun to play, for me at least. her set ups with her bugs & puddle swarm attacks are so cool and badass to pull off in a match. Kano is so underrated imo too. He's the closest thing to a grappler in mk11, so i naturally gravitated towards him, and he's actually awesome af.
Iam happy that Skarlet is a low tier character, i main her since the release so every victory feels earned.(without braindead zonespam) Tbh sindel is for me the hardest character to play her combos feel so weird to execute i honestly hate to play her. And of course Mileena > Rain ^^
As a Jax main I disagree on Jax carrying players. Assuming you don’t know what you are doing most characters are going to destroy you. You have no special moves or abilities like a lot of the other characters. You’re only attribute that makes him even viable is his 9frame mid and his fatal blow, and virtually every player knows about it. You’re timing must be on point there is no margin for error. Yes his damage can be insane but you better be able to capitalize with it. His inputs for advance combos require skill and are very easy to drop. Im just out here putting some respek on us Jax mains
Any tips with jax? I got the game bout a month ago and my main is kung Lao , but I’ve been trying to learn jax but am kinda struggling with his range and how to get in on people. And what variation do you use??
@@tylerhembree2433 P.s his amplified stiff arm is good for quickly rushing down and pushing your opponent into a corner assuming they arent a teleport character. and since you said you main kung lao: go into practice mode and record him doing his teleport (any variation of it) and learn the punish with jax. i do quick drill into either quad grab or gotcha grab. very satisfying
I've been aying this game for 4 years and still can't find a proper main. This is the only MK game that I've been unable to find a character who checks all of my boxes. Nobody has everything I'm looking for except for characters who I'll never main because they're just dumb characters. Oh, btw. Scorpion's teleport cancel is the best in the game. Considerably better than Raiden's teleport. Not only does Scorpion's teleport threaten with serious damage if it's not respected, but it recovers much quicker and only uses 1 defensive bar. Raiden's teleport doesn't deserve much respect. For one, it has no offensive threat, and two, it recovers too slowly to capitalize on it. It would be the best in the game if and only IF is only cost 1 slot. Honestly, his teleport should probably be standard. He is Raiden, after all. Kinda like Shang Tsung and his 3 fireballs. Those moves were invented FOR and made popular BY those characters, and yet they have to sacrifice more for them than other characters who have the same moves. Completely nonsensical.
20:58 and 33:45 it is terrible you cannot get the klassic skins for Skarlet or especially Mileena anymore. it is so very stupid to have them in a one-time event only, and never again. Why even do that?
Wait did you say something about scorpion being noob friendly ? Ya don’t say I’m so tired of fighting scorpions I have done the math and it turns out 99.7 % of all new players pick scorpion. Crazy right ?
@@l0ve0fmylives77 sub is also picked too often. I have no problem fighting the top tier characters that the pros complain about. For me I get more annoyed when fighting the same casual friendly characters over and over again It’s always scorpion, Noob saibot, Kung Lao and subzero and then the next 4 fights are the same just in a different order.
Hi, over the past few months I've taken interest in this game. I'm pretty noob to modern fighting games as the last fighting games I've played were MK3 Ultimate arcade version and SF3 Third Strike. I would like to know what's the learning curve for this game and is it noob friendly or am I just gonna get wrecked big time if I dare to play online?
You won't get wrecked. There is skilled based match making. You will be matched with people of your skill level. It is one of the best fighting game for new players. Yes it's noob friendly. The tutorial is great too. Practice mode makes testing things easy etc.
Surprised you didn’t rate Shao Khan highly - he has great range with that hammer and tremendous uppercuts and power! He isn’t the most mobile or fast however
@@sthepcorms6747 shao kahn has a 10 frame mid so you don't ever have to throw with him to keep his turn. Anytime you mash against him, he can hit you with a full combo. Some people have won tournaments with him.
Dont listen to this guy when he says a bunch of these characters are low tier. They might not have a many tools as others but every character is viable!
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:06 Shang Tsung
00:29 Shao Kahn
01:10 Frost
01:39 Nightwolf
02:44 Joker
03:45 Johnny Cage
04:21 Sonya Blade
05:33 Cassie Cage
06:45 Jax Briggs
07:30 Spawn
08:13 Scorpion
09:17 Noob Saibot
10:08 Baraka
11:09 Raiden
12:34 Jacqui Briggs
13:55 Sub-Zero
15:21 Kano
16:03 Kabal
17:01 Liu kang
17:57 Kitana
19:30 Kung Lao
20:08 Jade
20:57 RoboCop
21:53 Skarlet
23:16 Erron Black
24:43 D'vorah
26:39 kotal Kahn
28:44 Sheeva
30:33 Rambo
30:51 Terminator
31:35 Geras
32:53 Kollector
33:45 Sindel
35:14 Mileena
36:57 Cetrion
38:14 Fujin
38:50 Rain
40:44 Outro
Sonya doesn't have highest damage in the game. Baraka and Spawn do more damage. Also, Geras was strongest character prepatch because he had 80% combos.
I can’t remember the kombos. I have to write them down. I can’t be looking down to read while playing in Kombat League/online 🤣🤣🤣
@@Papawheelie75 it will get to you in time. Eventually it will just be muscle memory.
Thank uu
I’ve been playing since around when the game came out but I still think this is a very detailed and informative video for any newer players.
Mayur?
Ok
I feel like he was trying to not hurt low tier characters feelings
I mean even Sonicfox said there is no bad character, with some you just rly have to try harder to get results. in the end its just the player and shao kahn for example still wins some tournaments.
When half the roster is S tier does the tier list really matter anymore 🤷♂️
@@jojox1733 Tier Lists for comparison reasons are not that useful To begin with, for personal preferences they are perfect (imo)
@Jack Not really though if I’m fighting myself with two different characters the character who has more tools and is statically better will win out majority wise
@Jack Yeah but that’s not a actual point it’s obvious that a better player would beat a worse player but it doesn’t matter your skill level because better characters will still win out when fighting a equal opponent who is playing a weaker character like the dude that quoted Sonicfox any character can be used effectively but there’s a reason why even one of the best pro players mains Joker how good a character is will always matter I get why your brain doesn’t let you realize that simple point it’s a defense mechanism I’m guessing you play a character that is either simple or common rated pretty high I’m not shit talking I play Erron black and Barracka both easy characters to play but don’t dilute facts with what you want to be the whole truth
This was well done (Shang Voice)
Shout out to my main cat White Shoes!
Wow dude, I'd rather listen to you teach me about these characters than doing my finals. Excellent video that didnt get enough love
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Go study for your finals sir!
lmao im watching this instead of writing an essay
Lmao
2 years later I’m in your exact same boat
*A G O O D C H A R A C T E R*
(good video, tho)
Exactly.
tbf there's not really any bad characters in this game, save for a few like shao kahn
@@trancandy1 Not sure about Nightwolf. But all others can be played well. I think Kollector is also one of the more difficult to play characters. You could consider him bad, but that is just how you play him.
Just a Funfact: One of the MK Tournament winners won with Shao Kahn.
I think Scorpion is one of the best characters in low tiers but becomes very difficult to play against high tier players. This big disadvantage is that everyone knows his movesets, strengths and weaknesses by heart.
@@fenfire3824 yeah there are definitely characters who are mediocre, which translates to bad against really insane characters. i can't speak too much on nightwolf, because i haven't played him very much. shameful since i'm native american lol. but i really do think that nrs did a good job at balancing these characters and making them all solid in a vacuum. maybe i'm just biased since she's my main but i think skarlet is one of the characters who really needs a boost
@@trancandy1 Yes you are probably right. I think MK in generall is the best balanced beat em up you can play. I haven't played injustice, because it is basicly the same with other characters but the same game mechanics, it may also fit into it.
But other games like Soul Calibur doesn't even come close.
It is difficult to say, which char needs a buff and which does not. As a scorpion player, i don't like, that you have to spend so many attack bars. It changes alot, if you have the fire spear buff active. But this also limits you too much. Without the buff, other characters like Spawn feel kinda OP. I don't play with the spear because i play with the advanced hell port build. And sometimes, it feels like all the damage i do in several combos are nullified by other chars with just one punisher. And that is annoying. e.G. Sub Zero does almost 40% dmg if his slide hits you the third time while amplified. Good players try to split it, so in the first round they don't use the third one and it is like 40% damage in round two for free. It is almost impossible, to be able to prevent this, if your oppononent is a good player. Unless you win all your matches with flawless victories...
Same for Spawn, what realy frustrates, if you want to break out of his combo, you will lose two defense bars. And if you do not, you will lose 50% health...
In my opinion, some very few characters are actually very noobfriendly. And that is the only downside for this game.
I know, lots of people consider scorpion also a noob character. But what most people realy do not see, is how easy it is to block all scorpions attacks and how easy you can punish scorpion. He has almost nothing safe on block, his combo starters are very unsafe, have bad framedata and because so many players use scorpion, almost everyone knows his attack patterns. And you can down punch almost everytime first. Which makes scorpion actually realy difficult to play on top tiers. You need to be very tricky, try some feints lure your opponent into traps.
Why do i tell all this, because i bet my ass, lots of scorpion players would complain alot, while most of the other players would complain, scorpion is too strong.
There are some characters, which start shining if you know when and how you can interrupt your opponents. If you can do this, you are on a nother level as a player, and i think, it doesn't matter alot which character you play anyway :D
Skarlet has the easiest command set in the game. Right now, I'm remembering her buttons, and haven't played since around November.
that`s good to know. im a new player, will try her.
@@Lwilibert keep in mind you have to put in a lot of work to be good with her at a higher level, just so you know.
Liu Kang is the easiest, (Im a liu kang main) I heard even Ed boon said his grandmother could win using him
@@JF-tk9ii Yeah I use to think I was good with liu kang then my brother who has never played mk absolutely dominated me with liu kang
@@Andy1SH The thing is maining Liu kang literally dumbs you down I’m glad I stopped playing him a while ago
I appreciate all the the work that is put into this, it’s been really helpful not only for picking a main but also for better understanding matchups online, thanks!
31:34 "Not Robocop goddamnit!, Terminator!" idk why that cracked me up.
He said it so fast 😂
I dont even play but this was still mad entertaining
this was honestly an excellent breakdown and so helpful for a beginner like myself. good stuff!
Just got the game, this helps. Thanks. I'm liking Rain a lot.
Welcome.
Rain is nice. Has the best movement in the game
I dont even play fighting games or mk11 but this video was actually so good for someone who is curious about it
this is actually a really good video, i only play with frost, kabal and geras, but now i have new choices
@Storm PooPer The Y Y X+A combo is so clean
@Storm PooPer The leg snap is so good
If Scorpion is noob friendly, why was he not being friendly to Noob?
Kabal:
Safe, amazing, amazing, . . . I already said safe?
Mileena needs buffing.
Like you said, people should be able to special cancel her string into a ball etc. She needs way too many meters to deal a great amount of damage. To have the Telekick in mid Air, you need a slot, then you must equip Stabbyscotch for extra damage which is easily punishable, and Play time is a must to extend her combos.
As a clone to Kitana, she should have almost the same level as her sister, with Low Sais and Normal one like Kitana and FASTER starting times cause they made her super weak compares to MKX.
She was fun to play, but now she's really hard to go with without risking getting punished for every single move.
Kitana needs buffing too haha.
some revisions here:
-Sonya no longer has the most damage in the game. That's either Shao or Noob.
-Raiden is STILL not good. He relies on a gimmick (stagger B12, or to cell/throw) for success and when it doesn't work, he struggles.
-Kabal is no longer underrated. Everyone knows he's easily a top 10 character and his air slight gas is BUSTED.
-His name is KANE, not Kano.
-Sub Zero is a carry character, I'd argue against him being THE carry. Lao and Jade are MASSIVE carry characters. I would say Jade is the biggest carry character.
-Erron has 50/50s and can be a pain online. B22 is minus but can be cancelled into scud shot and it's not easy to react to the scud cancel IF he doesn't amp it.
-Rambo is a low tier character mainly because he is SLOW.
-Kollector is just outside of an S tier character. Has one of the best armor breaks in the game, a teleport for safety, great damage, great range, 50/50s, and a mid command grab. He's more than OK.
-Just to add to Cetrion, her chip damage is completely fucked.
-Kitana has some of the best zoning in the game with her low fan, normal fan, and sai throw.
-Fujin is a top tier, braindead character. B2 functions like Geras' sand trap, it controls the screen making it feel like you cannot move. Sky Wakka cancels are a nightmare to deal with online.
Also why do people always bring up Geras' krush damage and NEVER bring up Jax's krush damage? Jax has just as many, if not more, krushing blows than Geras and they all do INSANE damage yet no one ever talks about Jax's krushes.
Good update
@@Jolfvaka Thanks.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming His name is Kano, not Kane. What are you on about?
thank you for this i am trying to main rain and you gave me really good tips i try and do his combos too much and barely use his specials now i know to use his specials more than actual combos
Hes low tier but u can do some work with him
That's a great video concept 👍
thanks!
Great video. You summarized each character very well. And I like the concept of the video.
This is a great video, you can tell the effort that got put into making this video, definitely subscribing and showing friends!
No one ever actually uses king Laos best move. The spirit stance can lead to perfect grabs big combos and great pressure. I’ve mained him since the game babe out and it sucks to watch everyone ignore that ability
I like how cetrion yells piñata when she puts up the rock wall
Sad that Jacqui is the strongest because she is the most uninteresting character in the game :(
You made a great video ! I wish proplayer or NRS do that for their mains, that would help us a lot and encourage people to not go for easy character ! And I m impressed by your knowledge of the game, you must be a really good player ! I’ll sub ^^
Thanks!
New to MK11 and PlayStation after last playing MK4 way back then. Jumped into Kabal straight away, then Fujin and now Noob. Old school favourites. Sad that they made Jaqueline and Joker top tier as they hold no sentiment and would be forgotten if never brought back
I appreciate this video. I've been looking for match-up videos for each character, but can't find any. This is the closest thing to it. I definitely appreciate this video though.
thanks. i haven't really done match up videos but it's a good idea to start doing. What is your character?
'bad' match ups for joker: th-cam.com/video/DRpC8qTfmlE/w-d-xo.html
My character is cassie cage
Cheers for making this! Very informative for a returning player!
I am bad and I don't block anything.I dodge attacks but a lot of the time I forget that back isn't block in this game and it hinders my performance.
Just bought MK11 since it was on sale so might as well learn what's so good about it. Thanks!
Ngl I loved geras, while it’s true he may have trouble getting in, the f+3 is very valuable to me and the end to that move can lead to great set ups for when your opponent wakes up
I love that your custom build for frost is named "EllenDegeneres"
I recently got mk11 ultimate because it was discounted and now I’m trying to learn more and git gud
Joker reminds me of borai cho. He's fun yet not appreciated. On that note I think most characters are hard to master.
Good video. Just got the game on Switch. Didn't play MK since MK4. Interested in good old Sub Zero, Raiden, Kung Lao, Kitana, Jade and smiling 95 movie Shang Tsung, as with newcomers Cetrion, Kollector and Erron Black... Not counting Arnold, Sylvester and Alex Murphy !! It's just overwhelming !!!! Your video helps a lot. And i understand while i can"t do cool things with Kung !
Explain why Sheeva is alive and Im dead?
lol
Fr
Thanks for the timestamps. Dope video.
“Kano is medium” - Biohazard wants to know your location
I think mids are only usefull if you can start a combo with as a stagger or if it is safe on block. Otherwithesy, almost all mids are realy bad. I didn't understand, why you said, mids are important. Do i miss somethink? Biggest problem are reversal players, if you like to play with a character which has no 50/50s or no safe on block attacks.
# Shao Kahn has a strong unblockable attack and a lot of 50/50s, his combos are also super easy to learn.
# Spawn has an unblockable attack which does alot of damage.
# D'vorah has also a super annoying teleport attack which is actually slightly better than scorpions hell port, because it is an overhead from above, which you cannot duck block. In addition if enhanced it pushes the enemy away and is almost safe on block, so your opponent cannot punish you in most cases.
# Scorpion has a combo, where the game doesn't count the combo higher in mid (Guess it is a bug) where you can perform an 60-70% combo because of it.
But you need to do an armor break after a teleport and i never had any opponent doing so. The only people i know doing an armor break after a teleport is myself and some youtubers :D
Mileena is actually strong aswell if played with the right skillset. Maybe not the best but you totally underrated her. She is not easy to play but if you are a good mileena player you have high chances to beat everyone else, no matter what character you play against her. She may not have the highest dmg combos, but that is not that important. She has fast and weird looking moves which are difficult to react on, also lots of 50/50s. She probably wont deal 40-50 combos but she can easily perform 2 200 dmg combos in a row which you cannot block.
# Fujin also becomes strong if you change the skillset alot. His Sky Wakka is super annoying aswell and for some characters difficult to punish.
# Rain has a cancel which is great and his lightning strike is a good anti zone. So just to mention.
Mids are useful cause if you know your enemy only uses highs, you can micro duck every time and he basically does almost nothing IF you know how,and you do it
@@OctopusH2O I never had this kind of situation. And i played in the top tiers in pvp. Some minds there are good, because they are safe on block.
But i never saw many players waiting for an opportunity to counter high attacks.
You do poking a lot but only to interrupt their attacksm because poking is just OP in regards of frame benefits.
I don't know how it will chang in mk1, but i hope mids will push more, that even if they won't be always have better frames, you could at least keep some characters like sonya, jonny cage or liu kang a bit away.
It could be a good addition for zoning characters, so your mid may help to keep your own perfect distance. But i never had issues with players countering my high attacks by doing duck attacks. Of course poking as said, but you can always poke, just because it is faster.
And i don't see poking as a real problem. It does little damage and mostly it is more annoying and strategic, it has little impact on the dmg outcome. It is mostly defensive.
I disagree with large parts of this video and have support for it, it’s not taken into account how easily countered most *good* characters are since they have mostly high attacks, jaqui is exceptionally strong even offline, and I literally laughed when he called Kano mid tier. A lunging mid thats plus on block allowing you to throw, cancel into snakebite, stagger for a quick string to open up, or cancel into enhanced knife toss for a restand and fear mongering any attempt to take turn after the F1, if it connects you’re plus and can dash and throw, dash and 24 or 22, if you open someone up with the 24 you can meterburn and get 330 easily, you’ve got a great 50/50, both of his go to strings are completely safe, he has one of the best armor breakers in the game that meterlessly rest and sat any point in any combo, has great scaling, and allows for throw pressure, and the 50/50 games with the command grab which ticks off of his 24, which reminder, gets you 330 easily, he has a KB on both throws. Case, and, point.
Kano is considered mid tier. That is the general consensus in the community. Maybe we will see him higher in tierlists after this weplay tournament. His f1 is a problem.
@@Jolfvaka I also disagree with his F1 being a problem, at high level play from biohazard and sik we see more of the 24 into his CG than F1 into anything, his damage is good when you learn his tech, 375 for one bar, 405 for two, he has more jails than most of the roster, some of the best framed data in the game period, right next to sheeva, jax, and jaquie. The general consensus is a huge downplay, just like when I was playing kotal last year and everyone said he was too slow to be good, but now look where he’s being placed on tier lists. It’s all a lack of knowledge putting him mid tier, much like a handful of characters in the game.
I guess he hasn’t seen Biohazard play Kano? 🤣
I really liked this video. Very quick and to the point on the basic break down of each fighter.
Plan on doing any more of these videos for other games?
How about making a tier list based on more than just "who is the best character", but instead a tier list on which characters excels in certain categories: Zoning, 50/50s, frame data, neutral, combo damage, mobility....some characters might not be high tier, but excel at doing a certain thing. Ya know?
You could make multiple tier lists for all of these categories for players that are looking for a character that excels at a specific thing. Just an idea.
Good idea.
And for other games we will see. Maybe guilty gear when it comes out and I learn the game.
then the very next patch makes half it redundant :P
@@whiskizyo2067 what next patch :P ?
Pretty much spot on for the most part. The only real disagreements I would have is that Fujin is easily top 5 in the hands of a player who knows how to use him, which you kinda eluded to. He's the hardest character to use in the game. I would also disagree that Rambo is good. He's definitely low tier. The only other thing I would say is that I WISH Noob had good staggers. If he did, I would use him a lot more. His staggers aren't total trash, but he has literally no range on his grab and sub-par mobility, which makes capitalizing on his staggers a pain in the ass.
All-in-all, a really good breakdown of the roster. I was happy to see you shit on Erron Black, and it's about time someone gave Raiden his props. He's boring as fuck to use, but he's well-rounded. Too bad Netherrealm isn't doing anything else with MK11 in terms of buffing/nerfing characters. They still had a lot of work to do. It's a crime that Shao Kahn is objectively the worst character in the game. They did him dirty.
It would be no different to from forcing Liu Kang to spend 2 slots to access his bicycle kick, but giving the same move to Rain free of charge in his standard moveset. Wtf?
you forgot to mention robocops command grab/mid mix which can be very dangerous
Watch this at .75x speed. You’re welcome.
I kinda disagree with rains water ball being a good anti zoning tool since you can duck it and it’s pretty slow the best anti zoning tool rain has I would say would be his rift moves like the one that absorbs projectiles and the other one that closes the distance if done in the air
Anyone else getting lag in the video at different times? I even replayed it and it only happens in certian spots were the audio cuts in and out
This guy don't have a main, he is the main
Came here after Evo 2023 to see how Fujin would be explained.
Great breakdown!
great video, just starting and this helps a lot.
I know this is old, but Sonya is a Bottom 3 character and is basically a joke character now.
She can’t zone without Offensive Meter and her damage output is poor overall due to being unable to really combo without KBs or an unsafe High-Overhead-Mid string. She can’t up a bag of potato chips without huge risk due to having crap Mids and Lows, which is fantastic due to having stubby range and a measly 950 HP.
Youre right
I like the character break downs but i do have 1 problem and its not big its just a nitpick
I just think its kinda weird for you to tell a new player whether a character is good or not. I think subconsciously that makes people hesitate with picking who they like
Again its a nitpick but 🤷🏾
True
#1 Cetrion
#2 Liu Kang
#3 Jacqui
#4 Joker
#5 Fujin
And in my opinion Dvorah is ass and Kano is very good
agree
Agree with all of these. Except my bby D'Vorah 🥰 lol all jokes aside, she's low tier but she's so fun to play, for me at least. her set ups with her bugs & puddle swarm attacks are so cool and badass to pull off in a match. Kano is so underrated imo too. He's the closest thing to a grappler in mk11, so i naturally gravitated towards him, and he's actually awesome af.
This whole video was satisfying to watch.
You watched the WHOLE thing sir? 😲
@@Jolfvaka yes. i only clicked on the video to learn about liu kang. but i ended up watching all of it. great video!
Mileena’s ball roll should have been the best reversal in the game.
No
@@Khan-_-Art1st Yessssss dude
a lot of effort put here . great work ty.
Just the kind of content i need.
This is a crazy good video!!!
Iam happy that Skarlet is a low tier character, i main her since the release so every victory feels earned.(without braindead zonespam)
Tbh sindel is for me the hardest character to play her combos feel so weird to execute i honestly hate to play her.
And of course Mileena > Rain ^^
They did my girl Mileena dirty. I use to dominate with her online in MK 9 and X. Now I don't even touch her in 11.
Thanks for all of this effort i enjoyed the video
Awesome video bro, ty ^^
Pd: which is the best custom variation for Spawn?
Probably low chain and charge. I use chain grab, low gun and leetha stance :)
As a Jax main I disagree on Jax carrying players. Assuming you don’t know what you are doing most characters are going to destroy you. You have no special moves or abilities like a lot of the other characters. You’re only attribute that makes him even viable is his 9frame mid and his fatal blow, and virtually every player knows about it. You’re timing must be on point there is no margin for error. Yes his damage can be insane but you better be able to capitalize with it.
His inputs for advance combos require skill and are very easy to drop.
Im just out here putting some respek on us Jax mains
I respek that you put respek on his name. I changed my mind on this . I don't think he carries. His staggers are just cheap
Any tips with jax? I got the game bout a month ago and my main is kung Lao , but I’ve been trying to learn jax but am kinda struggling with his range and how to get in on people. And what variation do you use??
@@tylerhembree2433 P.s his amplified stiff arm is good for quickly rushing down and pushing your opponent into a corner assuming they arent a teleport character. and since you said you main kung lao: go into practice mode and record him doing his teleport (any variation of it) and learn the punish with jax. i do quick drill into either quad grab or gotcha grab. very satisfying
@@tylerjay532 you da goat!For a launcher tho I use ripped I’m not sure if it’s better than the other launcher
@@tylerhembree2433 yeah i do too, its definitely the best in my opinion. duck and weave is ok and it does have the low grab but i never got into it
This was really well done
Great video.
I've been aying this game for 4 years and still can't find a proper main. This is the only MK game that I've been unable to find a character who checks all of my boxes. Nobody has everything I'm looking for except for characters who I'll never main because they're just dumb characters.
Oh, btw. Scorpion's teleport cancel is the best in the game. Considerably better than Raiden's teleport. Not only does Scorpion's teleport threaten with serious damage if it's not respected, but it recovers much quicker and only uses 1 defensive bar. Raiden's teleport doesn't deserve much respect. For one, it has no offensive threat, and two, it recovers too slowly to capitalize on it. It would be the best in the game if and only IF is only cost 1 slot. Honestly, his teleport should probably be standard. He is Raiden, after all. Kinda like Shang Tsung and his 3 fireballs. Those moves were invented FOR and made popular BY those characters, and yet they have to sacrifice more for them than other characters who have the same moves. Completely nonsensical.
I don't like that you underrated my boy Kollector but great vid regardless
You might be right
Maybe its just because we just don't see him much or we don't see him at a high level.
@@Jolfvaka Sad truth
21:00 The best zoner is" szechuan sauce?" WHAT
@hands-ongaming7180 he says Cetrion variation 1 (one)
20:58 and 33:45
it is terrible you cannot get the klassic skins for Skarlet or especially Mileena anymore.
it is so very stupid to have them in a one-time event only, and never again. Why even do that?
As a Erron Black main i feel kinda sad someone saying he's low tier:(
Same as a skarlet main
I felt bad for mileena too😭 she’s my main
He isn't low tier
I’m going to watch the whole video
Okay!
The Electric Fly disrespect
Certrion being S tier is crazy
Great effort appreciated
Been playing scorpion since mk 4 he’s my boy
I want the character everyone rages about where they call you a carried, ez mode scrub online.
scrub-zero
Nice video!
nice and good video bro
imo the best reversal is scorpian death spin
Really enjoyed this video
Which character(s) would you recommend for a beginner?
subzero
scorpion
lui kang
sub zero is a good pick
Wait did you say something about scorpion being noob friendly ? Ya don’t say I’m so tired of fighting scorpions I have done the math and it turns out 99.7 % of all new players pick scorpion. Crazy right ?
@Maciek Burkat I agree and too many bad players get carried by his dive kick it’s a go to for a lot of people.
Y'all are getting anything other than Sub Zero players 🤨🥺
@@l0ve0fmylives77 sub is also picked too often. I have no problem fighting the top tier characters that the pros complain about. For me I get more annoyed when fighting the same casual friendly characters over and over again It’s always scorpion, Noob saibot, Kung Lao and subzero and then the next 4 fights are the same just in a different order.
@@jf2849 I KNOWWW. I legit had 8 sub zero matches in a row. They were all on wifi too 🥺🥺
Lol I've never played with scorpion. Maybe in the story mode, but I haven't used him at all in mk11.
Hi, over the past few months I've taken interest in this game. I'm pretty noob to modern fighting games as the last fighting games I've played were MK3 Ultimate arcade version and SF3 Third Strike. I would like to know what's the learning curve for this game and is it noob friendly or am I just gonna get wrecked big time if I dare to play online?
You won't get wrecked. There is skilled based match making. You will be matched with people of your skill level. It is one of the best fighting game for new players. Yes it's noob friendly. The tutorial is great too. Practice mode makes testing things easy etc.
u/CharacterWho sent me here from reddit
Hey I've had alot of trouble with geras any advice for characters to check him?
The problem is it’s Geras
Wait, when did Shan Tsung lose his ability to morph into other characters??
He does he got abilities where he transform into characters a variation
he loses his soul steal when you equip all the ninjas
How people can remember input for all characters ? I'm struggling remember the name of my main
It comes with time
practice mode, even if you do a good combo once, keep going until it basically becomes second nature
nice vid bro 👍❤️
Does any1 else main Spawn?
How to do his back 3(x) into sliding tackle??? I can't make it happen for some reason and I see everyone is doing it what am I missing?
Which character
Mileena has this unblockable move,she rolls over your back and stabs u in the ear.... What move is this???
I think he meant stabbyscotch her command grab
You mean her extended strings, f4 3 1+3, yeah it's not unblockable
How did you make raiden look like that and use white electricity?
Surprised you didn’t rate Shao Khan highly - he has great range with that hammer and tremendous uppercuts and power! He isn’t the most mobile or fast however
He is good except for his flawless block gaps. That's what kills the character
The problem is that most of his blows are slow, in addition to having several gaps, so basically it is very easy to be punished from Shao Khan
@@sthepcorms6747 shao kahn has a 10 frame mid so you don't ever have to throw with him to keep his turn. Anytime you mash against him, he can hit you with a full combo. Some people have won tournaments with him.
Very good vid ty
me playing kano crying right now
"Sonya has the highest damage in the game"
*Baraka and Shao Kahn in the back looking at eachother*
😂or spawn
Who’s a flashy/badass character with cools moves and such?
Spawn
Dont listen to this guy when he says a bunch of these characters are low tier. They might not have a many tools as others but every character is viable!
Who do you disagree is low tier?
Hey!! Anybody can give me advice on if I am just starting the game which character would you recommend
Subzero