@@daviddowling9830 The guy who build his youtube precense around his hate for JPEG and that he shoots Raw. I actually have recommended video from his channel in my sidebar. You might also have it.
Man I gotta say, I really like your videos when you're on your own, but Everytime you interact with Brendan o Greg... I just love it! Great video, great images as always.
When I started photographing, I used a lot of the unforgiving pos - film. You really had to understand the light meter in the camera. Then digital came and I became more and more lazy. I could fix it in post production :) But when I started shooting for a local newspaper, I had no time to do that afterwork, and I had to shoot Jpg, it was like starting all over again, I had to be a lot more accurate. Good learning definitely.
Why do you call film a pos? I understand it was a difficult tool to use back then and a lot of older photographers don't understand why it's still being used today, but I think to give it such a label is quite extreme :(
@@lilblingking1491 Film is what I learned on back in 1980 , you had to have a skill level behind the camera . Getting it right regardless of format reduces editing time .
That's interesting. I've learned to photograph on film already in the digital era with a 50 years old camera my husband's grandfather gave me. No light meter, manual focus. I've learned a lot, photography became a great pleasure. When I started using digital cameras I found post processing very boring, that's why I continue to do everything on camera.
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode Thomas, going through a bad patch with photography too so this is a different way to encourage me to try harder. Thanks again for the awesome content. All the best.
This was fun. I shoot JPEG exclusively on Fuji, because I hate editing. It's really refreshing to hit the shutter and be done. I wouldn't go back to raw now, unless I really needed highlight control. But really a graduated filter works fine.
Hey Thomas! You're killing it with your videos from Patagonia: a lot of fun to watch! This one is great too, love the small challenges like this, forcing to try stuff or (re)-learn what the camera can do!
Love the glacier picture! Also amazing colors on that tree! So hard to believe that it's actually fall there, when it's spring here in Holland, everything starts to bloom or is blooming here..
Thomas, I'm so glad that you delved into the Picture Styles for this challenge. I was hoping you would! Even as a raw shooter, I've been fiddling with these settings for 10+ years now. I find that they are incredibly useful, even when shooting RAW or RAW+JPG, because they allow you to push your creative vision closer to its final goal, while you're still in the field. If you do a lot of B&W, you can shoot RAW+JPG and then use the B&W/Monochrome Picture Style, combined with the in-camera contrast and other adjustments, to really help hone in on the ideal tonality throughout the whole image. Canon's Auto Lighting Optimizer is helpful if your GND's aren't enough to fully keep highlights and shadows playing nicely; you can really stretch the dynamic range of the camera to fit a scene, while still separately controlling contrast and clarity. Same thing goes for shooting color, and the "Landscape" Picture style. I always turn my in-camera contrast way down, and the in-camera saturation up a couple bumps, and then fiddle with the Auto Lighting Optimizer (Active D-Lighting on Nikon, and DRO on Sony) until the dyanmic range of the camera matches the DR of the scene. It's a bit of extra work in the field, but it sure helps a ton with getting closer to your creative vision, which allows you to focus and notice small details (and correct errors) that you might not otherwise discover until post-production. I've written a few articles on this subject, and vaguely outlined an entire eBook on the concept too, but I'm afraid that nobody will want to learn my crazy, hairbrained methods haha. It's probably too far-fetched to think that "serious landscape shooters" want to learn "how to shoot better JPGs" ...even though they're actually still shooting RAW. I'll probably keep the whole workflow to myself, I guess. Glad others are discovering its benefits, though!
Me too I like the way you think ! Please post a link for your ebook. Very interested by that. This video and your comment make me wanna to shoot RAW+jpeg and play more with the picture profiles on my 5DIV...
I am not sure if I get you correctly here, but playing around with picture styles may help in pre-visualisation but it certainly affects the histogram in Liveview as the it measures it from that "JPEG" sadly. A real RAW histogramm has been introduced in MagicLantern only as far as I know ... that's the reason I bumped all values down to have the least influence to it although the preview often looks dull.
@@Yamanotefy Indeed, this is why it is so important to understand in-camera processing! If you're ever concerned about the histogram accuracy, you can go in the complete opposite direction from what I just suggested, and use Neutral or Flat Picture Control instead, then turn the contrast down too if necessary. This can give a histogram that is almost identical to what a raw histogram might give.
@@MatthewSaville Ok, that's what I did first when I got the camera coming from the 5D2 with ML. Certainly I get why people also tweak their settings to better visualise their final output. Cheers mate!
Thomas, as a Nikon (don't know if you can with canon) user I can add filters in the B&W profile in jpeg custom settings ie green, red, yellow ect the sort of filters you would use when shooting B&W film.
With Canon jpegs it is advisable to set 'Sharpness' at either +1 or +2 - any higher can produce 'ringing' effects around contrasting areas. Experimentation is the key.
@@daviddowling9830 No point in that. With JPEG all the editing is done in camera and comes out as a finished image. With RAW the camera just captures all the light, you're supposed to edit the image afterward, because the out-of-camera RAW file is going to be flat and dull looking. This challenge is misleading because even shooting JPEG the images are never not edited. All those picture modes and adjustments Tom was doing in the camera menus, they're applying edits like sharpening, noise reduction, contrast, saturation, white balance, etc.
Indeed I think that many people would be shocked to find just how hard it is to correctly reproduce certain specific colors and tones in Lightroom, as it is with the in-camera Picture Styles like Vivid and Landscape. In fact, fall color is one area where I feel Adobe just does not come close to what my Nikon can do in-camera, when it comes to brightly exposed backlit Aspen leaves. I've resorted to shooting RAW+JPG a lot, and using the native software (Nikon View NX) to convert the NEF file to a TIF if I can't get the raw file to look like the JPG to my satisfaction.
@@JayGunn "With JPEG all the editing is done in camera..." It's comments like that that I find ridiculous. Yes, JPEG algorithms are applied to make the image usable out of the camera. But there is NOTHING stopping anyone from further editing - and doing so quite effectively. Absolutely nothing is "DONE" by shooting JPEG unless, you the user decide it's done.
Look at all the great friendships you`ve made Thomas. Brendan,Greg and the hundreds of other from your workshops. Wouldn't`t have that just staying in the UK,great bonus. Oh yeah, you get to shoot a bit as well. Loving your work brother.
The desaturated image is absolutely awesome, and the pick (no pun intended) for me :) I think it is good sometimes to force yourself to think differently and try new approaches. It is good to see though that your approach to photography overall, i.e. getting it a right as possible in camera, has served you well for this challenge. Perhaps a lesson to all of us that sometimes lean on software just a little bit too hard. All the best.
Learned something new (again) about playing with the camera settings. Cool! Loved the glacier face as it felt like it could be on the "Game of Thrones!"
Great points. Now, how about doing a follow up on HOW TO buy a camera. Really, I follow you and would be interested in hearing how you process the decision of making a purchase.
What do you mean when you say cropping in JPEG is destructive? The crop will change the rest of the photo that you keep because of a compression algorithm or something?
That looked like a good challenge for you, nice job! I liked that last image a lot. I don't use JPEG much either, but occasionally I'll do RAW+JPEG so picture profiles do something. A while back I was trying out black & white with this method. With a mirrorless camera it's actually great because the EVF/Screen preview is in B&W.
Thomas and JPG, pick my jaw up off the floor! Outstanding images but I still prefer the flexibility of not baking all the decisions into the in-camera image. Thanks for sharing!
Great video Thomas . . . loved you're second Glacier shot!! Is there a Picture Style with my Canon that I should be using when shooting in RAW? What do you use? Thanking you in advance.
I assume auto WB, looks like it did a good job. I find one of the most useful things about RAW is being able to adjust WB and tint, especially for things like glaciers. I would be lost without it.
Is that the F-Stop Ajna camera bag your using now Thomas. I'm looking at a new bag and that's the one I'm looking at buying. I looked on your gear blog and it says your using lowepro.
I like the tree picture, but I would have never thought of cutting off the top. Why did you do that and I really would have liked to see a comparison of two shots with different compositions. Complete tree and cut off tree....
its good that you do what you do. I think a lot of people, myself included consider jpg uneditable. you for sure lost in the spirit of the "challenge" of the competition...right.... filters, in-camera color adjustments...most of the things you'd do in post...but in "pre". but still, I found this video when I was looking for reasons why ANYONE would shoot in jpg and you presented many ways to shoot great pictures under restriction. well done, sir. well done.
Well done Thomas! The last two images turned out quite well with the 2nd one being my favorite. I could see how you’d have to be more dialed in to your composition without the benefit of post work.
Patagonia is Beautiful .... 20+ years ago I went to the "route of the 7 lakes" or "Circuito de los 7 lagos" ... in Bariloche in the middle of the spring.... gorgeous... I wish to have the means to go back .... It is so rich in compositions that you get overwhelmed by !!!
By a show of hands, how many forgot how to use their in-camera processing engine? Shooting M mode with RAW files for so long I have forgotten about the capabilities of my camera. Maybe worth a try at JPEG again for the fun of it. Thomas, you truly are an inspiration.
So cool. I have the same Canon camera and have never played around with custom settings. Will have to give it a try. I often shoot in both raw and jpeg simultaneously as raw was too intimidating in the past but I am getting better at post processing now.
Stunning..... Stunning.....Stunning photos Tom. That tree photo is Awesome. I don't do RAW so i know i can do stuff like this. Thank you for sharing. Stay safe guys.
Those second two are absolutely stunning. (I'd have agonised over the orange tree crop for so long it there's be no light left. Some ideas to nick from you here.)
Nice job you two!! Loved this ! Looks like this is a very popular place to shoot... BTW where did u get that warm hat@4:25...I would love to have one for next winter!
For many people, using the camera presets or using the camera custom presets is a viable alternative to computer-based post processing. I use Canon's RAW + JPEG and I find that most of the JPEGs are fine for my uses, but as you point out, cropping is a problem since it causes decompression.
I would love to see these images shot both without the filters & with just to get a sense of the difference. I know a difference is there, but would love visuals of both.
Nowt wrong with that, loved it. As you know, I don't use lightroom and barely post process stuff. A really accessible video for everyone, showing killer results. Well played sir, not many pros would do what you do. 👍🏻
Thanks Joe. I'm a little sad you're taking a 3 month break, but babies and vlogging don't go hand in hand. You'll be back in time for the heather bloom.
I stared shooting JPEG a few months ago and prefer it. I save the RAW file onto the second SD card and backup it, so in case I have an image where I need to get more details out of the shadows & highlights, I get the RAW file. But 99% of the time I only use the JPEG straight out of camera, sometimes edit it a little bit, and I love it, it‘s perfectly fine. Edit: Also wanna mention that I don‘t do the exact work Thomas does. In that landscape area, I would also lean towards RAW. But when doing portraits, family, travel, street photography, sometimes random abstract stuff and some landscape, I prefer the easier JPEG workflow and to get as far as possible in camera. I also happen to just love the film simulations of my Fuji camera, Classic Chrome especially, which gets me really close to the look I like to have in my photos, so I’m lucky with that and that‘s part of the reason I enjoy the JPEG workflow.
Fabio Mota it is nice when you have a second card slot to do that as it saves the hassle of filtering the RAW from the JPEG files during import into Lightroom.
That was so interesting. Your results were great. I can't stop shooting RAW though, every pixel is precious. I felt really sorry for Brendan having to shoot B&W.
Finally, a real photographer who knows who to use his camera and spends his time taking great jpegs. (Those who rely on RAW are more artists than photographers.)
Facts, people rely to. much on. software and thats why they dont get better if u ask me, I. mean after all Ive seen its obvious that for a lot of people shooting raw is a must because they are very bad at exposing, and they will never get better sadly
i also shoot jpg FUJI GFX but in some cases raw converted to TIFF using camera exif data in the raw files in a sundown converted to tiff has way more collors 14bit vs jpg 8bit jpg sundowns has bending in the collors, the tiff.s has no bending but the cost is 292 mb tiff files vs 30mb on my fuji gfx 50r where the dynamic range is importan like sundown tiff is the way to go for me but in lanscape sport event streat i dont se the difference in quallity sorry for my bad inglish
Your camera can do HDR internally. You can process raw files internally. I think you should have done the black and white, just to annoy Brendan. Then a third, with a blue tone.
Great video guys, I shoot Jpeg/Raw but I’m yet to process any RAW image as I don5 have LS/PS. I do have RAW Therapee but I’ve absolutely no idea how to use it. I will get around to trying it at some point though. I tried Canon Digital Photo Professional’s new App but it only Edits a certain RAW File, can’t remember the name but I guess as I only have the basic 1300d my camera doesn’t use it. I’m hoping and praying the desktop version works but somehow I doubt it. I’d love to upgrade my camera but that’s not an option at this point in time so I guess I’ll have to try RAW Therapee or check prices on LR/PS.
Digital photography spoiled us as photographers, I feel. This doesn't turn that dial all the way back to that, but it does challenge you to think more about the final image while shooting.
*Jared Polin intensifies*
Who?
@@daviddowling9830 The guy who build his youtube precense around his hate for JPEG and that he shoots Raw. I actually have recommended video from his channel in my sidebar. You might also have it.
Hahahahaha!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Yes!
Olyphantastic thanks,I know who he is,most painful utuber around.
I was about to post *angry jared sounds* but your take is also really nice!
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Man I gotta say, I really like your videos when you're on your own, but Everytime you interact with Brendan o Greg... I just love it! Great video, great images as always.
When I started photographing, I used a lot of the unforgiving pos - film. You really had to understand the light meter in the camera. Then digital came and I became more and more lazy. I could fix it in post production :) But when I started shooting for a local newspaper, I had no time to do that afterwork, and I had to shoot Jpg, it was like starting all over again, I had to be a lot more accurate. Good learning definitely.
Why do you call film a pos? I understand it was a difficult tool to use back then and a lot of older photographers don't understand why it's still being used today, but I think to give it such a label is quite extreme :(
@@lilblingking1491 Film is what I learned on back in 1980 , you had to have a skill level behind the camera . Getting it right regardless of format reduces editing time .
That's interesting. I've learned to photograph on film already in the digital era with a 50 years old camera my husband's grandfather gave me. No light meter, manual focus. I've learned a lot, photography became a great pleasure. When I started using digital cameras I found post processing very boring, that's why I continue to do everything on camera.
@@lilblingking1491 Pos - positive film, or dias..
Great shots Tom! This is what a true photographer can do when he knows his gear. No excuses, just got in there and got the shots. Well done.
That feeling when Thomas' JPGs are a billion times better than your craziest RAW edits.
The power of the master photographer. =)
Your photos always amaze me.. you seem to be able to rise to every challenge and always take incredible images. You are an inspiration :)
Loved the second image and hats off (no pun intended) to Jodie for setting the challenges to you both. Been good to see the both outcomes today
The second Glacier shot is amazing dude!! Noice.
Yeah I like that ones too, lovely tones.
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Thoroughly enjoyed this episode Thomas, going through a bad patch with photography too so this is a different way to encourage me to try harder. Thanks again for the awesome content. All the best.
This was fun. I shoot JPEG exclusively on Fuji, because I hate editing. It's really refreshing to hit the shutter and be done. I wouldn't go back to raw now, unless I really needed highlight control. But really a graduated filter works fine.
Hey Thomas! You're killing it with your videos from Patagonia: a lot of fun to watch! This one is great too, love the small challenges like this, forcing to try stuff or (re)-learn what the camera can do!
Love the glacier picture! Also amazing colors on that tree! So hard to believe that it's actually fall there, when it's spring here in Holland, everything starts to bloom or is blooming here..
You seem to be in love with your filters. 😍 Love you Heaton.
Love the second shot! Composition, color, everything... Superb.
Hi Tom, in Canon picture styles if you choose monochrome you can apply a B&W filter simulation. There's red, green, orange & yellow filters.
Thomas, I'm so glad that you delved into the Picture Styles for this challenge. I was hoping you would!
Even as a raw shooter, I've been fiddling with these settings for 10+ years now. I find that they are incredibly useful, even when shooting RAW or RAW+JPG, because they allow you to push your creative vision closer to its final goal, while you're still in the field.
If you do a lot of B&W, you can shoot RAW+JPG and then use the B&W/Monochrome Picture Style, combined with the in-camera contrast and other adjustments, to really help hone in on the ideal tonality throughout the whole image. Canon's Auto Lighting Optimizer is helpful if your GND's aren't enough to fully keep highlights and shadows playing nicely; you can really stretch the dynamic range of the camera to fit a scene, while still separately controlling contrast and clarity.
Same thing goes for shooting color, and the "Landscape" Picture style. I always turn my in-camera contrast way down, and the in-camera saturation up a couple bumps, and then fiddle with the Auto Lighting Optimizer (Active D-Lighting on Nikon, and DRO on Sony) until the dyanmic range of the camera matches the DR of the scene.
It's a bit of extra work in the field, but it sure helps a ton with getting closer to your creative vision, which allows you to focus and notice small details (and correct errors) that you might not otherwise discover until post-production.
I've written a few articles on this subject, and vaguely outlined an entire eBook on the concept too, but I'm afraid that nobody will want to learn my crazy, hairbrained methods haha. It's probably too far-fetched to think that "serious landscape shooters" want to learn "how to shoot better JPGs" ...even though they're actually still shooting RAW. I'll probably keep the whole workflow to myself, I guess. Glad others are discovering its benefits, though!
I would love to read your ebook. And totally agree with you!
Me too I like the way you think ! Please post a link for your ebook. Very interested by that. This video and your comment make me wanna to shoot RAW+jpeg and play more with the picture profiles on my 5DIV...
I am not sure if I get you correctly here, but playing around with picture styles may help in pre-visualisation but it certainly affects the histogram in Liveview as the it measures it from that "JPEG" sadly. A real RAW histogramm has been introduced in MagicLantern only as far as I know ... that's the reason I bumped all values down to have the least influence to it although the preview often looks dull.
@@Yamanotefy Indeed, this is why it is so important to understand in-camera processing! If you're ever concerned about the histogram accuracy, you can go in the complete opposite direction from what I just suggested, and use Neutral or Flat Picture Control instead, then turn the contrast down too if necessary. This can give a histogram that is almost identical to what a raw histogram might give.
@@MatthewSaville Ok, that's what I did first when I got the camera coming from the 5D2 with ML. Certainly I get why people also tweak their settings to better visualise their final output. Cheers mate!
Thomas, as a Nikon (don't know if you can with canon) user I can add filters in the B&W profile in jpeg custom settings ie green, red, yellow ect the sort of filters you would use when shooting B&W film.
With Canon jpegs it is advisable to set 'Sharpness' at either +1 or +2 - any higher can produce 'ringing' effects around contrasting areas. Experimentation is the key.
You should have shot in jpeg and raw and then edited the raw images. Followed up with a side by side comparison.
I agree except no editing either one,teach me about the qualities of RAW.
@@daviddowling9830 the qualities of raw are that they are more easily edited. More information is saved and therefore the image can be edited further.
@@daviddowling9830 No point in that. With JPEG all the editing is done in camera and comes out as a finished image. With RAW the camera just captures all the light, you're supposed to edit the image afterward, because the out-of-camera RAW file is going to be flat and dull looking. This challenge is misleading because even shooting JPEG the images are never not edited. All those picture modes and adjustments Tom was doing in the camera menus, they're applying edits like sharpening, noise reduction, contrast, saturation, white balance, etc.
Indeed I think that many people would be shocked to find just how hard it is to correctly reproduce certain specific colors and tones in Lightroom, as it is with the in-camera Picture Styles like Vivid and Landscape. In fact, fall color is one area where I feel Adobe just does not come close to what my Nikon can do in-camera, when it comes to brightly exposed backlit Aspen leaves. I've resorted to shooting RAW+JPG a lot, and using the native software (Nikon View NX) to convert the NEF file to a TIF if I can't get the raw file to look like the JPG to my satisfaction.
@@JayGunn "With JPEG all the editing is done in camera..." It's comments like that that I find ridiculous. Yes, JPEG algorithms are applied to make the image usable out of the camera. But there is NOTHING stopping anyone from further editing - and doing so quite effectively. Absolutely nothing is "DONE" by shooting JPEG unless, you the user decide it's done.
Thank you Thomas, I thoroughly enjoyed that. You are at your absolute best when you are out there taking photos.
Look at all the great friendships you`ve made Thomas. Brendan,Greg and the hundreds of other from your workshops.
Wouldn't`t have that just staying in the UK,great bonus.
Oh yeah, you get to shoot a bit as well.
Loving your work brother.
The desaturated image is absolutely awesome, and the pick (no pun intended) for me :) I think it is good sometimes to force yourself to think differently and try new approaches. It is good to see though that your approach to photography overall, i.e. getting it a right as possible in camera, has served you well for this challenge. Perhaps a lesson to all of us that sometimes lean on software just a little bit too hard. All the best.
"That's easy, I shoot Canon", so true!
Great video Thomas! You look like you are having fun again. Your heart is in it, and your passion.
It's not the editing, it's the eye and knowing your camera.
You're the man, Thomas. All your shots were phenomenal!
Colour profiles are also available in raw... On the 5dmkiv...
The desaturated glacier image (second image) turned out well. I love how the blue pops. Good video as always.
Thanks a lot, Bryan. Glad you liked it.
wouldn´t this be PRE processing ? ;)
All great images, the second one being nearly perfect. Curious how you would edit them.
I really like this episode for the idea to leverage creativity and experience by the given restrictions! Very nice addition to the channel!
Learned something new (again) about playing with the camera settings. Cool! Loved the glacier face as it felt like it could be on the "Game of Thrones!"
I’m curious if you noticed a change in the size of the glacier from your previous visits?
Great points. Now, how about doing a follow up on HOW TO buy a camera. Really, I follow you and would be interested in hearing how you process the decision of making a purchase.
Love the yellows in the "background" in the last one...
Another great video Thomas thanks. Would you consider doing a video on when and why to use filters. Thanks in advance.
Love the beanie.. I need one like that now we're coming into winter..
What do you mean when you say cropping in JPEG is destructive? The crop will change the rest of the photo that you keep because of a compression algorithm or something?
That looked like a good challenge for you, nice job! I liked that last image a lot. I don't use JPEG much either, but occasionally I'll do RAW+JPEG so picture profiles do something. A while back I was trying out black & white with this method. With a mirrorless camera it's actually great because the EVF/Screen preview is in B&W.
Thomas and JPG, pick my jaw up off the floor! Outstanding images but I still prefer the flexibility of not baking all the decisions into the in-camera image. Thanks for sharing!
Great video Thomas . . . loved you're second Glacier shot!! Is there a Picture Style with my Canon that I should be using when shooting in RAW? What do you use? Thanking you in advance.
I assume auto WB, looks like it did a good job. I find one of the most useful things about RAW is being able to adjust WB and tint, especially for things like glaciers. I would be lost without it.
Right. Bill Fortney showed me how adjusting the white balance in-camera can set the mood when shooting JPEG.
Is that the F-Stop Ajna camera bag your using now Thomas. I'm looking at a new bag and that's the one I'm looking at buying. I looked on your gear blog and it says your using lowepro.
It's always great to see you finding compositions! Fascinating!
Blown away by the second photo you've captured, it holds so much emotion! fantastic :D
Love watching u're documentation which very catchy to my mind always inspire me to try this rather Macro
I like the tree picture, but I would have never thought of cutting off the top. Why did you do that and I really would have liked to see a comparison of two shots with different compositions. Complete tree and cut off tree....
Loving the collaborations with Greg and Brendon. Keep it coming.
Hey Thomas... I notice you are using the new Lee 100 filter holder. How are you finding it?
Being new to photography, I learned a lot from this video and your others, thanks.
its good that you do what you do. I think a lot of people, myself included consider jpg uneditable. you for sure lost in the spirit of the "challenge" of the competition...right.... filters, in-camera color adjustments...most of the things you'd do in post...but in "pre". but still, I found this video when I was looking for reasons why ANYONE would shoot in jpg and you presented many ways to shoot great pictures under restriction. well done, sir. well done.
Well done Thomas! The last two images turned out quite well with the 2nd one being my favorite. I could see how you’d have to be more dialed in to your composition without the benefit of post work.
I like the camera settings under the images that you added, nice addition to the vlog👍🏾
Patagonia is Beautiful .... 20+ years ago I went to the "route of the 7 lakes" or "Circuito de los 7 lagos" ... in Bariloche in the middle of the spring.... gorgeous... I wish to have the means to go back .... It is so rich in compositions that you get overwhelmed by !!!
Nice challenge
Just a question : wish f-stop bag are you using ? :) is it confortable for your hikes?
Thanks
looks like the sukha to me. could be wrong, though
Terrific images. You're an excellent photographer and educator.
By a show of hands, how many forgot how to use their in-camera processing engine? Shooting M mode with RAW files for so long I have forgotten about the capabilities of my camera. Maybe worth a try at JPEG again for the fun of it. Thomas, you truly are an inspiration.
So I wonder, if you had shot using a Fuji system... would it have allowed you to use "film" settings in your challenge?
So cool. I have the same Canon camera and have never played around with custom settings. Will have to give it a try. I often shoot in both raw and jpeg simultaneously as raw was too intimidating in the past but I am getting better at post processing now.
Stunning..... Stunning.....Stunning photos Tom.
That tree photo is Awesome. I don't do RAW so i know i can do stuff like this. Thank you for sharing. Stay safe guys.
Those second two are absolutely stunning.
(I'd have agonised over the orange tree crop for so long it there's be no light left. Some ideas to nick from you here.)
Nice job you two!! Loved this ! Looks like this is a very popular place to shoot... BTW where did u get that warm hat@4:25...I would love to have one for next winter!
For many people, using the camera presets or using the camera custom presets is a viable alternative to computer-based post processing. I use Canon's RAW + JPEG and I find that most of the JPEGs are fine for my uses, but as you point out, cropping is a problem since it causes decompression.
I would love to see these images shot both without the filters & with just to get a sense of the difference. I know a difference is there, but would love visuals of both.
It’s a testament to Thomas’ experience. What a refreshing video.
"That's easy! I shoot Canon!" God this line made my day!
You should bring Simon Baxter with you on the next Patagonia trip. He'd love the colors. Rock on!
It's a shame that the dramatic stairway/boardwalk to your right at 4:15 could not be incorporated into a proper photo..
LOL!..... I noticed that, Brendan, 'Mr. Composition', got the stairway shot.!!!
Love that you guy's have been given a challenge fun to watch😀
Thomas great video, thanks to Jode !!!! It made you work harder.
The glacier image is very nice.
Amazing video. The three of you have great chemistry. The second glacier image is well worth the challenge!
Nowt wrong with that, loved it. As you know, I don't use lightroom and barely post process stuff. A really accessible video for everyone, showing killer results. Well played sir, not many pros would do what you do. 👍🏻
Thanks Joe. I'm a little sad you're taking a 3 month break, but babies and vlogging don't go hand in hand. You'll be back in time for the heather bloom.
I stared shooting JPEG a few months ago and prefer it. I save the RAW file onto the second SD card and backup it, so in case I have an image where I need to get more details out of the shadows & highlights, I get the RAW file. But 99% of the time I only use the JPEG straight out of camera, sometimes edit it a little bit, and I love it, it‘s perfectly fine.
Edit: Also wanna mention that I don‘t do the exact work Thomas does. In that landscape area, I would also lean towards RAW. But when doing portraits, family, travel, street photography, sometimes random abstract stuff and some landscape, I prefer the easier JPEG workflow and to get as far as possible in camera. I also happen to just love the film simulations of my Fuji camera, Classic Chrome especially, which gets me really close to the look I like to have in my photos, so I’m lucky with that and that‘s part of the reason I enjoy the JPEG workflow.
Fabio Mota it is nice when you have a second card slot to do that as it saves the hassle of filtering the RAW from the JPEG files during import into Lightroom.
The photograph of the trees is amazing. Well done to create a captivating composition in such a messy forest.
what is the name of the glacier again please?
@@midquest7282 oooh Argentina.... its beautiful!!! I want to go on such a trip of any glacier here in Europe! Any recommendations? Anyone knows?
You can crop a jpg, and you can still save copies, so the original is preserved. I know it’s an old video, but those comments have me confused.
could you make a print of the de-saturated glacier shot?
my eyes can't have enough
That second glacier shot is really awesome!!!
love this, one! can you say what kind of filter set up you have, looks less complex than mine, thank you!
Master Photographer Thomas Heaton for the win. Beautiful glacier photo.
I love to shoot JPEG with my fuji camera
Its always give me good pictures with awesome colar
Next time maybe try a challenge with the1.8 50mm nifty-fifty?
LOL "That's easy I shoot Canon" love that line.
That was so interesting. Your results were great. I can't stop shooting RAW though, every pixel is precious. I felt really sorry for Brendan having to shoot B&W.
Finally, a real photographer who knows who to use his camera and spends his time taking great jpegs. (Those who rely on RAW are more artists than photographers.)
Facts, people rely to. much on. software and thats why they dont get better if u ask me, I. mean after all Ive seen its obvious that for a lot of people shooting raw is a must because they are very bad at exposing, and they will never get better sadly
That was fantastic.
i also shoot jpg FUJI GFX but in some cases raw converted to TIFF using camera exif data in the raw files in a sundown converted to tiff has way more collors 14bit vs jpg 8bit jpg sundowns has bending in the collors, the tiff.s has no bending but the cost is 292 mb tiff files vs 30mb on my fuji gfx 50r where the dynamic range is importan like sundown tiff is the way to go for me but in lanscape sport event streat i dont se the difference in quallity sorry for my bad inglish
You basically have to work like we worked before digital photo. Piece of cake! @3:56
Just wondering with no processing how you got the jpeg with a white border?
Love the channel the best.
The border is just video effect.
Damn, I was hoping nobody would bring that up.
"Sorry I was distracted by the colour...…" Ha Ha..... Straight over Brendan's head.....I suppose it takes a Brit sense of humour.....
I think he got it... He was just trying to explain. :P
Fully manual colour slide film with no light meter, now there's a challenge
No editing.
Edits in camera software.
I would have chose Provia for the blue tones, I think.
What were the other options? They would make great 'challenges' for anyone to have a go with.
Amazing images! So natural!
Your camera can do HDR internally.
You can process raw files internally.
I think you should have done the black and white, just to annoy Brendan. Then a third, with a blue tone.
for jpg shooting you should have borrowed that fuji x-t2....
Got you shooting like a newb!! Of course you totally pull it off and take great pics still.
what a challenge, you will have to take photos like in the film days when you had to get it right as many times as possible!
Great video guys, I shoot Jpeg/Raw but I’m yet to process any RAW image as I don5 have LS/PS. I do have RAW Therapee but I’ve absolutely no idea how to use it. I will get around to trying it at some point though. I tried Canon Digital Photo Professional’s new App but it only Edits a certain RAW File, can’t remember the name but I guess as I only have the basic 1300d my camera doesn’t use it. I’m hoping and praying the desktop version works but somehow I doubt it. I’d love to upgrade my camera but that’s not an option at this point in time so I guess I’ll have to try RAW Therapee or check prices on LR/PS.
Digital photography spoiled us as photographers, I feel. This doesn't turn that dial all the way back to that, but it does challenge you to think more about the final image while shooting.