I love this guy. Natural born teaching skills and so comfortable in his own shoes while doing it. Jump back over and hit the like button people.. You know you do and Jason deserves it.
One of the best videos out there for young welders coming up in the trade and trying to pass a test. Hats off to you Jason. Between you and Bob this has become the best welding channel on TH-cam...Hands down!
Billy Boonana man I really appreciate that. I really enjoy sharing what I’ve learned with you all. I know Bob does too. I just wish these resources were available when I was coming up.
Hey bob I hope you’re feeling better from whatever’s going on in life and hope we can see you more on later on. Take care, your fans love you. Can’t wait to see more tig pipe! -Mitch.
Great video Jason, I am covering 3G with my students now and this will back up what I am teaching them. The step by step and time you take in between your passes is great. IWLU402 I worked out of 808 for awhile. Keep the videos coming!
We didn't get to use anything powered when taking these tests in school either. I was told if I needed to cut anything off I should turn up the amps on a 6010 and use the arc to make the cut and I actually had to do that once and it worked!
I love this man!! I’m going to my first welding competition this weekend, I’ve only been welding for a couple months so I’m taking all the tips I can. This was a huge help, showed me what I can improve on. Cheers!
I'm not in school for welding. I have done it in High School back in the 80's but now I'm doing it on the side at my place of employment. I'm kind of learning through trial and error. I weld on a lot of thin and rusty steel. Trying to weld overhead, vertical and horizontal is a big challenge for me. I use a Miller Bobcat 225 diesel welder and trying to dial in my amperage settings is a challenge cause the dial only has numbers from 1 to 10. It doesn't literally show me my amperage setting. However. I have learned and actually used some of Bob's methods from his older videos. It would be great to see a video on setting a basic generator/welder with just a number dial. Keep up the good work. I'll be watching for more SMAW videos.
Thank you so much Mr Jason, you make it very easy to understand for us new guys. Entering my 2 semester of welding school, please do more of these by the book plate test for SMAW, they are very helpful especially from a great teacher such as yourself, thank you and god bless.
Today I take my first test it’s always been my dream to become a welder like my father I nervous as hell I watch this video every day to help me prepare my self thank you
For my root I don’t start so far down on backing strap because I want the rod to make it past the middle part of the plate. So I try to stop at the top part of the plate and restart. Also I run slower at bottom of the plate so puddle can build up more because normally at the top of the plate the heat makes the weld come out higher
I’m 19 in welding school right now on a scholarship, $4,000 of the $4,250 will be paid for as long as I get certified in at least one position. COVID 19 cut my school year 9 weeks short and spring break turned to summer. Now we’re back for summer classes. Long story short, I have two days left of summer school to finish my 1 inch plate 3G cert. If I fail, It’s quite possible I’ll then owe $4,000 to the school; and since there wasn’t any time for a practice certification beforehand(like there normally is here), this is my only shot. Plates are cut and grinded up pretty, just need tacking and all the passes... wish me luck.
I allways start in the middle installing Backup strips and work to the outer edge both ways if you weld both outer edges first you will Warp the backup strip or put a bow in it .😎
Nice presentation and skillfully made to be understood by anyone who has a basic knowledge of welding and self taught that is not a 2 rod Jones or some other know it all but is not afraid to learn something new
Really appreciate videos like this. I'll never do code work but it's very interesting how you stacked everything in your favor. Landing plate, clean metal, starting bead outside of the groove, a welder with hot start, dig function, favorite welding helmet, gloves that fit and let you move your fingers. I need to put more effort into my projects at home to make them this good.
Thank you so much for instructional videos. I thoroughly enjoy them and learn a lot through them. I am a newer welder that is working on collecting my certifications. I have my D1.1 in AWS and LA city. However, I have a job coming up that is a tubular structure . Clause 9. could you do a video on the test for tubular structures? D 1.1
I disagree on the grinder part but my instructor toight me the same way, do right the first time thier womt need to be a 2nd time...the only reason I disagree is because no job will ever tell you dont use a grinder they would actually encourage it because having to xray something twice cost money...just my opinion...good video tho
I'm attending Daytona State College and we're getting ready for our 1st cert in 7108 3g and 4g. I'm super nervous because this is my one chance to get a career going on this. I had to resign from my last career due to lower back complications. But since I've been in this class, my complications have been very minimal. Plus I just had a daughter 9 months ago so the thought of her is pushing me on this. My teacher believes I will pass, but it still makes me nervous.
Excellent video! How much time does it usually take for you to complete this test from start to finish? How long do you take in between passes to let the metal cool and does it vary as you progress? You guys are the best welding channel out there.
You mentioned to get a pick to dig out any slag trapped anywhere in the weld, is there a time when one can use a heavy duty wire brush or either a cutting wheel or a grinder..... lol, just saw your comment at the end of the video.... Not a grinding test , but know how to use all the basic welding tools and equipment.
FrozenButter thanks man, where do you teach at? Let us know if you need any specific videos. We’re always looking for video ideas to help the supporters.
Not nitpicking however the statement about D1.1 "Requiring" Mill scale to be removed is incorrect. "Loose scale, thick scale, and rust...." are addressed. Still, another incredible video!!!
Yes restarts are way critical i literally would do tie ins restarts over and over in all positions until i pretty much mastered it takes alot of hoodtime
Obviously they are gonna toss away mid plate where the tie in was on the root (CWI ain’t gonna use that portion of coupon), but was expecting a better tie in on the root pass. Little undercut on the right side of that root tie in (it happens to us all). Still a good weld though. And he’s welding D1.5 (Bridge Welding Code) on top of D1.1 (Structural Welding Code) if you viewers didn’t notice. That’s a good thing. Anybody see that also? He’s doing D1.1 & D1.5 👍🏼
The book indicates where the bends come from. 1" either side of center for a welder and 2" for a welding operator. If a welder has a re start in that area that's too bad they better get it right.
Hardstyle818 that’s how I was certified through the hall D1.1 and D1.5. 1” 3G and 4G. No power tools. You’re right about the tie-in though. It looks way worse on camera 😂.
Great video. Good welding and good teaching. You didn’t mention a travel angle and on your cover layer you mentioned a right to left electrode orientation change, but I couldn’t understand whether you meant a work angle change or something thing else.
Makes me look like a horrible welder. I’ve tried 30 of these plates so far. Only way for my weld to look like his is 117 Amps and 3 rods. Idk how you do it
Jason, your videos are awesome and really educational! One thing that I’m confused about is arc blow. In this video you say weld to the clamp with an 1/8” electrode diameter or smaller. In your “4 ways to avoid arc blow” video you say to weld away from the clamp on an 1/8” electrode or smaller.
How long has backing plate been used for a authorised insurance qualified 3G vertical plate test, When I passed mine it wasn’t aloud, Root fill and cap, Also did 5G & 6G pipe test, All material were 13 mm thick, Pipe was 150mm diameter and plates were 300mm long.🇬🇧🇮🇪.
I’ve been learnin and burnin for 10 years, when I went to school I got screwed out of finishing my very test, I’m fixing to get to take my d1.1 U and for whatever reason I’ve gotten nervous about it..
Not trying to question your knowledge. But just to Make sure I heard correct or you meant what you said. A root opening of 3/16 to 9/16 with a backing strip? That’s new to me usually it’s 1/4 backing 1/4 gap +- 1/16 on 3/8 plate that is.
Brandon Lewis it’s going to depend on your transfer mode, (short circuit, spray, globular, pulse etc) also depends on wire diameter, position and type of material n send me some of those parameters and I’ll see if I can help get you dialed in.
About your last comment. I have never seen a code that forbids power tools for inter pass cleaning. To be honest if you were using a chipping hammer to clean a weld but had a 110V outlet and a grinder right beside you, I think the boss might be asking what the hell you are doing. Yes at most schools they like to see the student pass with out power tools. At work when I am testing guys it's really not an issue. I would rather see someone identify a small mistake and correct it and pass UT/RT or a bend test. Rather than try and weld over a mistake and just hope for the best. If they get into that habbit your going to have a lot of weld repairs.
Geoff Moore I agree with you for in production but not for a weld test. AWS D1.5 Bridge Code prohibits power tools and grinders during welding qualification. It’s just a good practice to get into for when you don’t have the tools or can’t use them.
@@GodslilRedneck23 Good to know. As far as I can tell they restrict tools in D1.5 because field work may have limited power so they want to know you can do without. I had to qualify my all position SMAW and FCAW plates with no power tool as well. This was a rule at the school I was doing the testing. NO GRINDING IN THE BOOTH was printed on every hallway. I could have removed the part and took it to the grinding room but there was no need and time did not permit. It was 8 test plates in one day! Now being an inspector myself I just tell the workers to do whatever they do at work. I'm not there to tell them how to weld I just issue the test as the code says.
I've seen you use a high temp pen in the video for 1 inch 3g cert. Where to you get one of those? And what temp do you recommend for 3/8 plate? Thank you
I hate using 1/8 inch rods for vertical do much metal to carry it humps up in the middle and the heat builds so fast 3/32 is the way to go if you have that option its slower but more controllable
Enjoyed it very much. How thick in mm must the backing plate be. I enjoyed the half moon or U shaped welding teqnique in vertical.is a vertical up weld better than vertical down and why is that?
Duncan Mac Farlane for this one I used a 6.35mm thick piece but usually run a 9.5mm. For this process being used in a structural application vertical up is better because you get better penetration. On an open root you can run up or down depending on the electrode you’re using and the code you’re working to.
Can you do a 1' plate test like that, ive tried and never succeed well with keeping the weld flat, its always shallow on the ends, i think because i dont put enough metal on the runoff tabs
patrick Flynn yes sir, I had to certify for the union on 1” plate 3G and 4G. 4G is definitely easier though. If it’s not laying flat it’s usually the run off tabs not being utilized enough. Another thing you can do is tack a couple small plates parallel with your bevel just like the run-in/run-out tabs. That’ll help keep you straight and true.
Hi Jason, great video, can you to a video showing how to prepare the plate for bend testing, please? Do you grind off the backing plate or Carbon Arc cutting method? do you back weld after removing the backing strip?
Eric Borgen that’s actually where I learned the part about the as fit-up and as detailed info I shared. As a welder, I did not know that. Glad I went and did the CWI course. It’s helped me a lot since I still weld.
@@GodslilRedneck23 Basically the "As Fit Up" is the point where the CWI will make you re fit the joint. If it is within those tolerances your ok to start welding.
I do a weave for this plate and my starting tab always gobs up and leave a low spot at the very start of the joint. How do I build it up better and not have it flow down?
Thank you for the excellent videos! I was always told that we cannot weave the cap with one bead. You had 3 stringers on your cap. Is there a spot in the code book that says you cannot weave over 4 times the diameter of the rod for a 3/8” plate test? I have been looking and cannot find it
How long do you let your plate cool in between passes? When practicing at home, my plate was bending towards me even though I felt like i was sitting around waiting for it to cool more than i was welding.
Phillip Gober I usually run the root and hot pass with no wait in between. Then maybe about 2-3 mins before doing the two interpasses and about 5-7 mins before starting the cap with a 2 min wait between each stringer on the cap.
Even if you were to leave it to cool right down so you could touch it wi a bare hand between passes, it will warp or distort. Its simply physics. As things heat up they expand, and as they cool down they contract. Nothing that you can do about it other than pre-stress it
Just a question do you or do you not discard the eans of the plate 1/2" or so? I think for the bend test but maybe not for the visual inspection? Also what about grinding out the crater where you stopped and started?
RMTX 25 for a bend yes you start at the center and measure 1” either side of center, from there you measure 1-1/2” past the 1” mark. Those 1-1/2” sections are what get bent. The visual only applies to the welded plate the entire run on/run off tabs get cut off and are not inspected. You shouldn’t have any craters on your test plate. They have to be filled in to the entire cross section.
Thank you for the training. I'm looking for a good welding school in Metro Detroit. Can you recommend something? Can you tell me what criteria i need to keep in mind about the welding school that i will eventually choose so I can make the best decision going in? Thanks.
I started school a couple weeks ago and I'm struggling with nerves. I'm pretty much just multipassing fillets in each position. On flat, which I hate, and we've got to do what you're doing in the video next and its going to be an AWS test I believe at the 280 hour point and I'm at around150 now. Like I said my nerves are fucking with me just thinking about the steps I need to take considering what I dont know, like to use the track torch or anything to do with any of it beside the weld lol any advice would be so nice! I haven't even been shown this yet. I'm hoping soon.
I agree with not using power tools when you're learning you should be able to lay down good strong welds with normal welding tools i even don't like when coworkers and others grind the face of the weld off .. clean the scale and spatter off and show off your welds
If u clean test plates at all here with a grinder anything u fail not allowed the inspectors watch you will not let you clean the weld out or down to tollerence also grinding will contaminate your weld surface and when comes to xray its noticed also.
Hi just a quick question. I am welding my cwb vertical 3g and our plates are 90 degrees and 30 degrees. I was told to do a root stringer on both sides with stops and starts. Then all the following passes are in a weave. Is this up to the discretion of the inspector or would stringers be more widely accepted?
I love this guy. Natural born teaching skills and so comfortable in his own shoes while doing it. Jump back over and hit the like button people.. You know you do and Jason deserves it.
Lee Barnhart thanks man, I appreciate that. Would it be poor form if I hit the like button too? 😂 thanks for watching man.
Jason, you’re doing a great job, please just let Bob know we miss him.
Philip Ershler thanks man. Bob knows you all miss him, once his done handling his business he’ll be back on here manipulating some metal for you all.
When Bob can get back, I hope you don’t disappear. You and Bob together would be great
Philip Ershler check out some of the videos in our channel, Bob and I have done a couple videos together.
@@GodslilRedneck23 thank you so much for this man it was super helpful and I feel I can pass this test now
What happened to Bob??
One of the best videos out there for young welders coming up in the trade and trying to pass a test. Hats off to you Jason. Between you and Bob this has become the best welding channel on TH-cam...Hands down!
Billy Boonana man I really appreciate that. I really enjoy sharing what I’ve learned with you all. I know Bob does too. I just wish these resources were available when I was coming up.
Jason I'm really starting to like your teaching very thorough
Carol Florian thank you very much. I try to get as much info in as I can.
Hey bob I hope you’re feeling better from whatever’s going on in life and hope we can see you more on later on. Take care, your fans love you. Can’t wait to see more tig pipe! -Mitch.
Great tips and tricks! Never thought about moving my ground to the top of the work piece to avoid arc blow, definitely going to give that a shot!
TEXAS MADE WELDER knives and Fabrication you’d be surprised the difference it makes.
Dude right?
Weld cert in the morning. I know I can do it, just helps to watch the vids. Thanks for the commentary. Helps a lot
Great video Jason, I am covering 3G with my students now and this will back up what I am teaching them. The step by step and time you take in between your passes is great. IWLU402 I worked out of 808 for awhile. Keep the videos coming!
We didn't get to use anything powered when taking these tests in school either. I was told if I needed to cut anything off I should turn up the amps on a 6010 and use the arc to make the cut and I actually had to do that once and it worked!
I love this man!! I’m going to my first welding competition this weekend, I’ve only been welding for a couple months so I’m taking all the tips I can. This was a huge help, showed me what I can improve on. Cheers!
I'm not in school for welding. I have done it in High School back in the 80's but now I'm doing it on the side at my place of employment. I'm kind of learning through trial and error. I weld on a lot of thin and rusty steel. Trying to weld overhead, vertical and horizontal is a big challenge for me. I use a Miller Bobcat 225 diesel welder and trying to dial in my amperage settings is a challenge cause the dial only has numbers from 1 to 10. It doesn't literally show me my amperage setting. However. I have learned and actually used some of Bob's methods from his older videos. It would be great to see a video on setting a basic generator/welder with just a number dial. Keep up the good work. I'll be watching for more SMAW videos.
Christopher McMichael we will be doing some videos on the engine drives soon. Stay tuned.
Bout to take my cert test today!!! I’m going to give it my all wish me luck yall 💚🙏🏼
Thank you so much Mr Jason, you make it very easy to understand for us new guys. Entering my 2 semester of welding school, please do more of these by the book plate test for SMAW, they are very helpful especially from a great teacher such as yourself, thank you and god bless.
I think you show the best demonstration of clear rod/puddle movement I have ever seen! Thank you for the tips!
Great seeing the entire process start to finish. Thanks Jason!
Kevin Lee thanks man, I hope I was able to teach you something you didn’t know before watching.
Thank you for the skills,it has helped me pass my 3G Bend test
Today I take my first test it’s always been my dream to become a welder like my father I nervous as hell I watch this video every day to help me prepare my self thank you
When he's cleaning the slag off, the closed captions think it's music lol
So much Slag not cleaned off
For my root I don’t start so far down on backing strap because I want the rod to make it past the middle part of the plate. So I try to stop at the top part of the plate and restart. Also I run slower at bottom of the plate so puddle can build up more because normally at the top of the plate the heat makes the weld come out higher
I’m 19 in welding school right now on a scholarship, $4,000 of the $4,250 will be paid for as long as I get certified in at least one position. COVID 19 cut my school year 9 weeks short and spring break turned to summer. Now we’re back for summer classes. Long story short, I have two days left of summer school to finish my 1 inch plate 3G cert. If I fail, It’s quite possible I’ll then owe $4,000 to the school; and since there wasn’t any time for a practice certification beforehand(like there normally is here), this is my only shot. Plates are cut and grinded up pretty, just need tacking and all the passes... wish me luck.
How did you do? I'm in the same boat - my school cut our lab hours way back after spring break. About to start back up with stick and mig.
This was a better show!!! Good job!!!
Rick A. Shriver thanks man, I appreciate the support.
I allways start in the middle installing Backup strips and work to the outer edge both ways if you weld both outer edges first you will Warp the backup strip or put a bow in it .😎
Curtis von Epp I’ve seen it happen myself quite a few times. I usually don’t have a problem doing it this way but you make a valid point.
Nice presentation and skillfully made to be understood by anyone who has a basic knowledge of welding and self taught that is not a 2 rod Jones or some other know it all but is not afraid to learn something new
Really appreciate videos like this. I'll never do code work but it's very interesting how you stacked everything in your favor. Landing plate, clean metal, starting bead outside of the groove, a welder with hot start, dig function, favorite welding helmet, gloves that fit and let you move your fingers. I need to put more effort into my projects at home to make them this good.
Thank you so much for instructional videos. I thoroughly enjoy them and learn a lot through them. I am a newer welder that is working on collecting my certifications. I have my D1.1 in AWS and LA city. However, I have a job coming up that is a tubular structure . Clause 9. could you do a video on the test for tubular structures? D 1.1
Lord, I got AWS Certs tomorrow at 1 in class 3G and 4G in 4 hours I'm nervous, anxious, thanks for the extra boost wish me luck!
How did it go?
Great video.. thanks for showing us your knowledge
I disagree on the grinder part but my instructor toight me the same way, do right the first time thier womt need to be a 2nd time...the only reason I disagree is because no job will ever tell you dont use a grinder they would actually encourage it because having to xray something twice cost money...just my opinion...good video tho
I'm attending Daytona State College and we're getting ready for our 1st cert in 7108 3g and 4g. I'm super nervous because this is my one chance to get a career going on this. I had to resign from my last career due to lower back complications. But since I've been in this class, my complications have been very minimal. Plus I just had a daughter 9 months ago so the thought of her is pushing me on this. My teacher believes I will pass, but it still makes me nervous.
@Crazy Ryan How did your 3g/4g go?
@@scooterinvegas1 I didn't pass that one.
Excellent video! How much time does it usually take for you to complete this test from start to finish? How long do you take in between passes to let the metal cool and does it vary as you progress? You guys are the best welding channel out there.
You mentioned to get a pick to dig out any slag trapped anywhere in the weld, is there a time when one can use a heavy duty wire brush or either a cutting wheel or a grinder..... lol, just saw your comment at the end of the video....
Not a grinding test , but know how to use all the basic welding tools and equipment.
good job bro, I like the way you share your knowledge .. success continues .. greetings welder from Indonesia
Nice vid. You need to whoop on Man Cub as an out take. With Uncle Bob on furlough, someone needs to keep the Cub on point! LOL. Good stuff.
tom fleming oh yeah. We harass each other on the regular 😂
Yeah yeah Yeah whatever. lol
@@mancubwelder1312Cub, I bet the chirping sounds like a flock of birds this past couple of weeks! LOL You're a good man my friend!
Good video added to my playlist for school, love the channel
FrozenButter thanks man, where do you teach at? Let us know if you need any specific videos. We’re always looking for video ideas to help the supporters.
Very helpful. Taking this test tonight. Big help
That's completely great job sir I've learn more about 3G stick weld with root pass thank you for your video
Not nitpicking however the statement about D1.1 "Requiring" Mill scale to be removed is incorrect. "Loose scale, thick scale, and rust...." are addressed. Still, another incredible video!!!
nice work man good to see you emphasise on the tie ins and restarts, i failed a test because of porosity on the restart with lohy
Yes restarts are way critical i literally would do tie ins restarts over and over in all positions until i pretty much mastered it takes alot of hoodtime
Obviously they are gonna toss away mid plate where the tie in was on the root (CWI ain’t gonna use that portion of coupon), but was expecting a better tie in on the root pass. Little undercut on the right side of that root tie in (it happens to us all). Still a good weld though. And he’s welding D1.5 (Bridge Welding Code) on top of D1.1 (Structural Welding Code) if you viewers didn’t notice. That’s a good thing. Anybody see that also? He’s doing D1.1 & D1.5 👍🏼
The book indicates where the bends come from. 1" either side of center for a welder and 2" for a welding operator. If a welder has a re start in that area that's too bad they better get it right.
Hardstyle818 that’s how I was certified through the hall D1.1 and D1.5. 1” 3G and 4G. No power tools. You’re right about the tie-in though. It looks way worse on camera 😂.
Great video with you keep them coming love the info , and your loud and clear .
cheff Solo thank you sir. I definitely appreciate you taking the time to watch. Stay tuned we’ve got more coming.
Great video. Good welding and good teaching. You didn’t mention a travel angle and on your cover layer you mentioned a right to left electrode orientation change, but I couldn’t understand whether you meant a work angle change or something thing else.
Thanks for your videos sir
d1.1 is such a thick book >< i love how your doing it from start to end as a fabricator
malhavac thanks, I hope you were able to take something away from it.
Welder **
Thank you Sr for the tip I will trying tomorrow.
Makes me look like a horrible welder. I’ve tried 30 of these plates so far. Only way for my weld to look like his is 117 Amps and 3 rods. Idk how you do it
Great 3 G video I take my 3 G test in a few days at Johnson College in northeast PA. I like your tie in approach.
Yes they took that too
Jason, your videos are awesome and really educational! One thing that I’m confused about is arc blow. In this video you say weld to the clamp with an 1/8” electrode diameter or smaller. In your “4 ways to avoid arc blow” video you say to weld away from the clamp on an 1/8” electrode or smaller.
Excellent video thank you
Please could you throw more light on " STOP START", that's where I always have problem. Thanks.
Great video! Thank you
Good video very well explained
I might’ve missed something. You’re running 1/8” 7018 at 110 amps? Dude love the videos keep it up
Whatz up Welders I was looking for the same information 1/8 rod 7018 ?
Yes he is
Thank you brother you have quality information and a very big help
Helped a lot more vids please 🙏🏾🙏🏾
jason great job
mohammed troy thanks you Sir. We appreciate your support.
Great Video brotha 🤙🏻💯
Daniel Olivares thanks man.
How long has backing plate been used for a authorised insurance qualified 3G vertical plate test, When I passed mine it wasn’t aloud, Root fill and cap, Also did 5G & 6G pipe test, All material were 13 mm thick, Pipe was 150mm diameter and plates were 300mm long.🇬🇧🇮🇪.
I’ve been learnin and burnin for 10 years, when I went to school I got screwed out of finishing my very test, I’m fixing to get to take my d1.1 U and for whatever reason I’ve gotten nervous about it..
Not trying to question your knowledge. But just to
Make sure I heard correct or you meant what you said. A root opening of 3/16 to 9/16 with a backing strip? That’s new to me usually it’s 1/4 backing 1/4 gap +- 1/16 on 3/8 plate that is.
Would love to see a good gmaw short circuit setting for corner flat and lap joint positions
Brandon Lewis it’s going to depend on your transfer mode, (short circuit, spray, globular, pulse etc) also depends on wire diameter, position and type of material n send me some of those parameters and I’ll see if I can help get you dialed in.
Hit the like because of the information shared.
This is the perfect asmr video!
Fantastic teacher
About your last comment. I have never seen a code that forbids power tools for inter pass cleaning. To be honest if you were using a chipping hammer to clean a weld but had a 110V outlet and a grinder right beside you, I think the boss might be asking what the hell you are doing.
Yes at most schools they like to see the student pass with out power tools. At work when I am testing guys it's really not an issue. I would rather see someone identify a small mistake and correct it and pass UT/RT or a bend test. Rather than try and weld over a mistake and just hope for the best. If they get into that habbit your going to have a lot of weld repairs.
Geoff Moore I agree with you for in production but not for a weld test. AWS D1.5 Bridge Code prohibits power tools and grinders during welding qualification. It’s just a good practice to get into for when you don’t have the tools or can’t use them.
@@GodslilRedneck23 Good to know. As far as I can tell they restrict tools in D1.5 because field work may have limited power so they want to know you can do without. I had to qualify my all position SMAW and FCAW plates with no power tool as well. This was a rule at the school I was doing the testing. NO GRINDING IN THE BOOTH was printed on every hallway. I could have removed the part and took it to the grinding room but there was no need and time did not permit. It was 8 test plates in one day!
Now being an inspector myself I just tell the workers to do whatever they do at work. I'm not there to tell them how to weld I just issue the test as the code says.
Geoff Moore I agree. It just builds the confidence when the students know they are capable of doing it without the grinder.
Good job!
Where's Bob?
Kossivi AGLEE thanks man. Bob will be back soon. He’s taking some time off.
I've seen you use a high temp pen in the video for 1 inch 3g cert. Where to you get one of those? And what temp do you recommend for 3/8 plate? Thank you
Very good lesson. Thank you. Is this the whole SMAW3G test or just one part of it?
I hate using 1/8 inch rods for vertical do much metal to carry it humps up in the middle and the heat builds so fast 3/32 is the way to go if you have that option its slower but more controllable
Enjoyed it very much. How thick in mm must the backing plate be. I enjoyed the half moon or U shaped welding teqnique in vertical.is a vertical up weld better than vertical down and why is that?
Duncan Mac Farlane for this one I used a 6.35mm thick piece but usually run a 9.5mm. For this process being used in a structural application vertical up is better because you get better penetration. On an open root you can run up or down depending on the electrode you’re using and the code you’re working to.
Welding to a "Pre-qualified" procedure, ALL vertical welding must be upward progression.
Also, 7018 is only qualified for upward progression
Thank you very much
Great lesson, thanx
Can you do a 1' plate test like that, ive tried and never succeed well with keeping the weld flat, its always shallow on the ends, i think because i dont put enough metal on the runoff tabs
patrick Flynn yes sir, I had to certify for the union on 1” plate 3G and 4G. 4G is definitely easier though. If it’s not laying flat it’s usually the run off tabs not being utilized enough. Another thing you can do is tack a couple small plates parallel with your bevel just like the run-in/run-out tabs. That’ll help keep you straight and true.
Just the insight I needed. Thanks guys 👍
Good explanation
azielhernandez26 thank you.
Hi Jason, great video, can you to a video showing how to prepare the plate for bend testing, please? Do you grind off the backing plate or Carbon Arc cutting method? do you back weld after removing the backing strip?
Thankyou, I am studying for the CWI and this helps
Fun times. Are you going to take the AWS seminar? Well worth the money in my opinion.
Eric Borgen that’s actually where I learned the part about the as fit-up and as detailed info I shared. As a welder, I did not know that. Glad I went and did the CWI course. It’s helped me a lot since I still weld.
@@GodslilRedneck23 Basically the "As Fit Up" is the point where the CWI will make you re fit the joint. If it is within those tolerances your ok to start welding.
Geoff Moore yes sir, that’s correct. I was just pointing out your maximum and minimum requirements for the prequalified process for the Bu2a.
With the D1.1 test, what are the measurements for cutting the test plates for the bend test?
Thank you sooooo much
I do a weave for this plate and my starting tab always gobs up and leave a low spot at the very start of the joint. How do I build it up better and not have it flow down?
Thank you! Big help!
Thank you for the excellent videos!
I was always told that we cannot weave the cap with one bead. You had 3 stringers on your cap. Is there a spot in the code book that says you cannot weave over 4 times the diameter of the rod for a 3/8” plate test? I have been looking and cannot find it
How long do you let your plate cool in between passes? When practicing at home, my plate was bending towards me even though I felt like i was sitting around waiting for it to cool more than i was welding.
Phillip Gober I usually run the root and hot pass with no wait in between. Then maybe about 2-3 mins before doing the two interpasses and about 5-7 mins before starting the cap with a 2 min wait between each stringer on the cap.
Even if you were to leave it to cool right down so you could touch it wi a bare hand between passes, it will warp or distort. Its simply physics. As things heat up they expand, and as they cool down they contract. Nothing that you can do about it other than pre-stress it
Good job.
Oh ya and the U motion I like it and just tried it. Have you passed a bend test using it
Whatz up Welders yes sir, I typically do 2 of these tests per year and bend them to show my students how to do it and prove it works.
Well I like it. Thanks again
By the way I like the flicking upward on the root to get a better tie in. Never heard that before. Thanks again.
Whatz up Welders it leaves a nice low spot for when you can’t use a grinder.
Jason, why such a long run out? Where in Florida are you taping? Best regards from Orlando, would love to meet you guys... Paul
We’re did you get the book of was certification procedures?
Any tips for getting the root pass to lay flatter while tying into both bevels and backing strip ? I'm struggling with that aspect of this test .
Just a question do you or do you not discard the eans of the plate 1/2" or so? I think for the bend test but maybe not for the visual inspection? Also what about grinding out the crater where you stopped and started?
RMTX 25 for a bend yes you start at the center and measure 1” either side of center, from there you measure 1-1/2” past the 1” mark. Those 1-1/2” sections are what get bent. The visual only applies to the welded plate the entire run on/run off tabs get cut off and are not inspected. You shouldn’t have any craters on your test plate. They have to be filled in to the entire cross section.
Thank you for the training. I'm looking for a good welding school in Metro Detroit. Can you recommend something? Can you tell me what criteria i need to keep in mind about the welding school that i will eventually choose so I can make the best decision going in? Thanks.
Didnt realize you could run a small bead across the top and bottom on the front. When "tacking"
I was always told weld away from ground no matter the size rod
Thank you, this does not look easy.
I started school a couple weeks ago and I'm struggling with nerves. I'm pretty much just multipassing fillets in each position. On flat, which I hate, and we've got to do what you're doing in the video next and its going to be an AWS test I believe at the 280 hour point and I'm at around150 now. Like I said my nerves are fucking with me just thinking about the steps I need to take considering what I dont know, like to use the track torch or anything to do with any of it beside the weld lol any advice would be so nice! I haven't even been shown this yet. I'm hoping soon.
Hey brother how you doing today I'd like to know where I can get one of those pencils
It’s a Markal Pro If I remember correctly.
Hey Jason, was that with 7018? Or what? I didn’t catch it if you mentioned what it was. My bad.
Can you show or tell what amps you were running on each pass
I would like to have that book you are working out of if i missed name i apologize but i would like to buy me a copy
I agree with not using power tools when you're learning you should be able to lay down good strong welds with normal welding tools i even don't like when coworkers and others grind the face of the weld off .. clean the scale and spatter off and show off your welds
If u clean test plates at all here with a grinder anything u fail not allowed the inspectors watch you will not let you clean the weld out or down to tollerence also grinding will contaminate your weld surface and when comes to xray its noticed also.
I've seen it happen..
Cool thanks man
Hi just a quick question. I am welding my cwb vertical 3g and our plates are 90 degrees and 30 degrees. I was told to do a root stringer on both sides with stops and starts. Then all the following passes are in a weave. Is this up to the discretion of the inspector or would stringers be more widely accepted?
Is this the same test that gets you qualified as a certified structural steel welder?