As they say you can’t argue with stupid. To add on to that there’s only limited facts since it takes time to discover while dumb people could make up random bs
IMPORTANT NOTE: These tactics will ONLY ever work against someone who is actually interested in engaging in honest discourse, a dishonest person will try to slip right away or change the subject
This tricks don't work against parents, even if your 100% right they won't admit it, and as soon as they start loosing the argument they just say "why you talking back to me?"
The retort would be "this is simply a simple stimuli of the minds. Indeed a good parent would encourage strength in their child's cognitive abilities and be cognizant of any deterrents -- unless you intend on having a weak child that can be easily taken advantage of because he never learned how to stand up for himself" *cue teary eyed, act abashed, and slightly doting towards her next words. It may not work on the father, as fathers are Logos driven. Appeal to his weakness to stir the conversation. I've created a weakness with my father using a well-seasoned steak. Pay attention as they're only human.
@@sterlingodeaghaidh5086 it depends on the dynamic you have with your parents. My mom is a gentle soul unlike my stepmother who will yell at the postman for annoying her. Ask too many questions and you'll get hurt regardless of who you are, unless you are my father. Stepdad is a lot more docile.
@@Don-C.L. ik im just saying that my dad you could never try to level with him because he was raised in the south back when beating a child was accepted.
My abusive spouse used to do this to me all the time. It was really triggering watching this video, but it gave me some serious insight into what was going on and how he knowingly played me and everyone around him. He was on the debate team in high school, so there you are. Thank you for this content, it helps me to make sense of what happened and will allow me to instantly identify it should I run across it in the future. Very empowering.
Never lose an argument with this one even simpler trick. If you're having a conversation with someone while a sudden turns it into a fight, just politely disengage without showing any emotion. Not only will you have saved yourself a lot of time and energy, but you'll get to have a nice chuckle as they get even more upset at your neutrality.
That only works against someone you are not emotionally invested in. The more you are personally involved in a person (Example: Parents) the more it would likely worsen the situation.
Nah, I'm a winner, here is what I'd do: If the other person started the random argument, I'd attack them on their ability to stay calm. Such as, "you really started an argument over something as small as xyz?" This is a pretty hard thing to counter.l and it makes me look better than arguing it out. If I started it, I would back up my reason to start an argument with personal experience that could trigger a response in me (real or fake works if you want to be an ass). How is someone going to counter me getting cheated on numerous times? They won't 😃
I'm surprised that Mike didn't say,"If they don't say,"Fine, you win," you can just say,"I'm out of here!" And leave, and have the other person just start talking to himself, that would have been funny! 🤣
Ikr, why do most parents/seniors have such big ego that they cant accept they just lost an argument. They always resort to gaslighting you using their age and experiences as basis.
Bruh luckily ik this bc everybody is trying to twist my words just to get an advantage over me, thats why they lose the argument all the time, and always lose when trying to gather evidence on me when there is somebody else who does the bad stuff i am accused of all the time. The world is messed up 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When can a strawman be useful? I've never witnessed this in all my time debating online or seeing others debate. It's usually that moment when someone adds a name to their strawman and reveals they're real that things get wild. The disproval of a strawman can be really effective. But I'd never credit the strawman itself for that, so I don't think this should count if it's the example you were thinking of.
I know a guy who when he's losing an argument he twists his own words and makes it seem like you were trying to make the same point but we're misunderstanding one another
As a wise man said it is impossible to win an argument against a stupid person they’ll never admit they are wrong they’ll never even consider your point
@@TheEvanMack im referencing high schools and such in that they do not teach life skills basic things like taxes, basic handy man skills, finance management things people, regardless of life choice will use
You can say [opinion for your statement] "art class can give people more creativity and lead good learning experience" and you can add [criticism to person opinion by looking at data] "and math sucks since most of student cannot understand the subjects"
I have a nigerian mother bro different scenerio which will probably end with " is it me you talking to like that" and boom shes won its like magic 😅 cant wait to try it when am older
My mom and sister always say it’s impossible for me to admit that I’m wrong even though I am, but they are exactly the same and plus my mom and sister doesn’t even make sense and always twist my words. I’m not even that unreasonable like they say and they are just describing themselves and I’m so annoyed with that.
Daymn the last bit about "asking them to explain" tactic is beyond amazing! Thanks a ton! Even as a long time debate fan I've never heard or thought about it.
Unfortunately, this could also lead you to a trap where by focusing on their strawmanning makes you unable to pursue actual points that support your argument and by the end of the debate, their reply speaker will say something to the extent of: "The government team has spent most of their time debating definitions and semantics with my team without actually giving out objective points and reasonable arguments to this debate's main topic. Therefore, we of the opposition vehemently ask the honorable adjusticators to side with the opposition. As the government has not presented any actual argument as to why their motion should pass."
This is what i think. Nobody can be right 50% of the time. Of course, I think I'm always right. But they also think they are right. Am I 100% sure that I'm on the winning side this time? ... Unlikely.
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“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
-Mark Twain
letterkenny reference?
edit: oh twain actually said that
common twain w
So everyone with experience is an idiot?
@@dracofaadbro wish to started an argument 💀
@@dracofaadwith experience in being idiots, idiot.
It’s difficult to win an argument against a smart person, but impossible to do so against an unintelligent person.
True
True
As they say you can’t argue with stupid. To add on to that there’s only limited facts since it takes time to discover while dumb people could make up random bs
They will drag you down to their level and beat you at your own game
Ignorant would be a better word for those kinds of people I'd say.
NEVER argue with a lawyer
isn't that part of the job
@@xofi. If you aren't also a lawyer you aren't winning in an argument with a lawyer, that's what they meant.
@@elicradic5487 so we are in a losing battle
Haha so funny 🪑🪑🪑🪑
And a stupid person
IMPORTANT NOTE: These tactics will ONLY ever work against someone who is actually interested in engaging in honest discourse, a dishonest person will try to slip right away or change the subject
or use the old "nuh uh"
Yeah, Apologists sucks, don't fall for their trick.
Or in some cases they’ll keep you locked in that argument where you want out but they won’t let you.
Would this be neccesary against an interested person?
Red herring fallacy exists
This tricks don't work against parents, even if your 100% right they won't admit it, and as soon as they start loosing the argument they just say "why you talking back to me?"
The retort would be "this is simply a simple stimuli of the minds. Indeed a good parent would encourage strength in their child's cognitive abilities and be cognizant of any deterrents -- unless you intend on having a weak child that can be easily taken advantage of because he never learned how to stand up for himself" *cue teary eyed, act abashed, and slightly doting towards her next words. It may not work on the father, as fathers are Logos driven. Appeal to his weakness to stir the conversation. I've created a weakness with my father using a well-seasoned steak. Pay attention as they're only human.
@@Don-C.L. dude wtf you are DEFINITELY an alien
@@Don-C.L. i would have been in so much trouble for saying that its unreal.
@@sterlingodeaghaidh5086 it depends on the dynamic you have with your parents. My mom is a gentle soul unlike my stepmother who will yell at the postman for annoying her. Ask too many questions and you'll get hurt regardless of who you are, unless you are my father. Stepdad is a lot more docile.
@@Don-C.L. ik im just saying that my dad you could never try to level with him because he was raised in the south back when beating a child was accepted.
Also, be willing to admit when you're wrong. You can't win EVERY argument and being humble about it will only lead to you learning more.
But I'm a winner, I never lose (sadly)
But what if I speak facts all the time?
Nah I'd win
PagMan
@@nahumhernandezg2188its still good to have an open mind and try to see things from other people's perspectives, even if you think you are right
My entire arguments crumbling before my eyes when my opponent counter it with "🤓"
They just know that they're not smarter than you, just let them cope
I said "she won't fuck you bro", that means I win
@IKiIllToddlers Imagine an argument between two people who do this. It's just the need emoji over and over again
And that’s how you know you’ve pretty much bagged a win; that’s a plain sign of someone on copium support
Me when my opponent hits me with the "Bro really thought he was law by mike 💀"
Now I'm sleeping on the couch. Thanks Mike.
At least you got the couch -- I got the hospital bed... DV FTW.
@@Don-C.L.what happened?
Hahaha great comment
Mike: *Gives an incredibly complex and powerful argument.*
Other guy: *”Nah.”*
Sounds about right
Nuh uh 🗣
truly, though, this happens in reality... soooo much
Mike has never lost an argument ever in his life by the looks of this 💀
Bro I will call the Police!!!!!!! JUST STOP
Mike never lost because he only argues with different versions of himself 💀
ok
@VojIsGood hi again I saw you u said I told you to stop
chicken pt2?
“Fine you win” the phrase that nobody has ever said on the internet since the dawn of humanity.
My abusive spouse used to do this to me all the time. It was really triggering watching this video, but it gave me some serious insight into what was going on and how he knowingly played me and everyone around him. He was on the debate team in high school, so there you are. Thank you for this content, it helps me to make sense of what happened and will allow me to instantly identify it should I run across it in the future. Very empowering.
Some people use this tactic: being wrong in so many ways that it's hard to choose which one to combat.
*"Not my son.. No, Thank you"* 😂
Lmaooo
Never lose an argument with this one even simpler trick. If you're having a conversation with someone while a sudden turns it into a fight, just politely disengage without showing any emotion. Not only will you have saved yourself a lot of time and energy, but you'll get to have a nice chuckle as they get even more upset at your neutrality.
That only works against someone you are not emotionally invested in. The more you are personally involved in a person (Example: Parents) the more it would likely worsen the situation.
@@Tomo_mo "he who cares the least wins"
yeah but what if you cannot leave
Nah, I'm a winner, here is what I'd do:
If the other person started the random argument, I'd attack them on their ability to stay calm. Such as, "you really started an argument over something as small as xyz?" This is a pretty hard thing to counter.l and it makes me look better than arguing it out.
If I started it, I would back up my reason to start an argument with personal experience that could trigger a response in me (real or fake works if you want to be an ass). How is someone going to counter me getting cheated on numerous times? They won't 😃
I swear my friend who never admits they are wrong always twists my words its so annoying
Same
Bro has never lost an argument
It doesn't even work, because dumb people won't listen
They never say "fine, you win", they just start ignoring you or shouting nonsense
Ah yes, the new meta of arguments.
I'm surprised that Mike didn't say,"If they don't say,"Fine, you win," you can just say,"I'm out of here!" And leave, and have the other person just start talking to himself, that would have been funny! 🤣
The most effective counter:
Repeat what they say in a nerdy voice
Used to do this to my mom.
All of a sudden I was disrespectful and she didn't want to talk to me anymore.
Honestly a bigger win than the arguments.
Ikr, why do most parents/seniors have such big ego that they cant accept they just lost an argument. They always resort to gaslighting you using their age and experiences as basis.
But you have to understand that if you live under your parents’ roof, it’s their rules
@@paolotorres8537 it's kind of amazing how you fell into the same tactics the video warns against.
@@deadakus but you have to respect your parents. I understand your parent’s rules suck, but you’ll appreciate them one day
"Fine you win". Something you'll never ever hear in an argument.
Make sure that there are art classes in Germany
With exceptionally high drop out rates
LMAO Jesus christ
Loooooooooll
Austria**
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Better Way: Never think or admit you lost😂
"in order to defeat an idiot, you have to become a bigger idiot" - some guy I heard this from.
"fine you win"
-no one in the history of the world ever
Never lose an argument again with this one easy trick: say "said the liar" after anyone finishes a sentence.
Instructions unclear, I'm now in the hospital with fifteen broken bones and a bashed skull
Most *useful* video of my life Mike.
So his other videos aren’t useful😉
@@YouSillySnake I see what u did there
@@YouSillySnakeCome on, you know that's not what he was saying, he didn't even mention his other videos 😉
@@xyroforge 🤣😉
they're still going to call me a slur
Never try to defend or correct your lawyer, THEY are the ones trained for this.
he just taught us how to deal with cancel culture fans or just twitter users in general 🗣🔥
Bro made a guide to use twitter
Nah the real guide to using Twitter is
Step 1: don't
Not really... but that's where this issue is way too common.
bro when has an argument ever ended with "fine you win"?
Don't let parents see this... 💀
Always remember your goal. Most arguments you have already lost if you're influencing them to your side. If good will is your objective.
So cool tysm LawByMike!
Bruh luckily ik this bc everybody is trying to twist my words just to get an advantage over me, thats why they lose the argument all the time, and always lose when trying to gather evidence on me when there is somebody else who does the bad stuff i am accused of all the time. The world is messed up 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Never lose an argument with this one single trick!"
My lawyer advises me not to finish this joke.
This would only work in a perfect world. A lot of the time people are too stubborn to admit defeat.
Thanks Mike, this makes so much sense
The hardest part is arguing with a lawyer. Thats why im becoming lawyer as my career next time.
Strawmen can be useful in certain cases but not all . This is the same premise as setting a precedent
Strawman arguments are used in manipulative situations by people with dishonest intent
When can a strawman be useful? I've never witnessed this in all my time debating online or seeing others debate. It's usually that moment when someone adds a name to their strawman and reveals they're real that things get wild. The disproval of a strawman can be really effective. But I'd never credit the strawman itself for that, so I don't think this should count if it's the example you were thinking of.
I know a guy who when he's losing an argument he twists his own words and makes it seem like you were trying to make the same point but we're misunderstanding one another
"Don't argue with ignorant people, I never managed to win against one."
-Ghazali
No, the best way is to disengage or just stare at them in awkward silence.
Here before viral
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As a wise man said it is impossible to win an argument against a stupid person they’ll never admit they are wrong they’ll never even consider your point
Its hard to win an argument against an intellegnt person, harder to win against a dumb person, but impossible to win against an ignorant
Best come back, “Yeah, from your experience.”
When tf did they introduce actual learning to schools!?
...since they've existed
@@TheEvanMack teaching people mostly shit they will never use. They don't teach people economics unless in college or anything used irl
@@deathmauler181as a business student I will proudly say, what are you tapping about?
@@TheEvanMack im referencing high schools and such in that they do not teach life skills basic things like taxes, basic handy man skills, finance management things people, regardless of life choice will use
I agree with you Mike! Schools should have more creative art classes!
mike is just explaining women by this point
I've seen many of both men and women do this... it isn't a gender thing.
Did you really need to be sexist over a YT short about how to defeat strawman arguments?
- quote from person who has never conversed with an educated woman
@@terrafang1477 🥺
@@p_filippouz 🤔
mike, people probably don't tell you this often enough. You rock man! i love your videos dude
Thankful for this, I need it in my work place,
Thank you very much Mike. Please carry on these things (debating)
Say “Pathetic, you have to fight a made up boogeyman to have a chance of winning this argument” this immediately removes all credibilit
What if he said “because more time in art class means less time learning more important skills like math”
You can say [opinion for your statement] "art class can give people more creativity and lead good learning experience" and you can add [criticism to person opinion by looking at data] "and math sucks since most of student cannot understand the subjects"
This is EXACLTY WHAT I NEEDED THANK YOU SO MUCH
You are helping me get out of suspension
If you're arguing on the internet no one will ever say "fine you win" doesn't matter how hard they're losing also simple grammar mistake=win
Speech level 9999
Pretty much word for word out of a rhetorical persuasion book. Well said 😌
Been in enough internet arguments to know that no one ever admits defeat online, no matter how wrong they are.
"not my son"
Very subtle, thank you.
POV when your person you’re arguing with see‘s this '
Wink emoji gotta be one of the cutest ever fr 😉
People online do this all the time but never admit defeat and just keep shifting the goalpost.
"Because I said so!"
explosives are great at making people not argue with you
This helped me and the arguments which i got in have been a lot more easier to solve
I have a nigerian mother bro different scenerio which will probably end with " is it me you talking to like that" and boom shes won its like magic 😅 cant wait to try it when am older
MORE DEBATE TIPS PLZ MIKE
If only this worked against the final boss: Karen
Charlie Kirk has been real quiet since this dropped
Mike, why are you in cod? I’ll be dropping dubs with you as my skin (virtual skin, that sounded wrong.) 😭🤣
Thats exactly what happened with me today
You’ll always lose if they start mocking you. When you stop trying, that’s when they say they won
man never heard of the people that just fake laughs the entire time, and just yells and mimicks whatever you say
"Nah I'd win"
-Mike
I have noticed that the people who claim to be victim of stray men more often are the ones that use it the most. 😂😂😂😂
Moms can be the biggest fallacy users lol 😂
“Never lose an argument with this one simple trick!”
*-Pulls out firearm*
Trump: taking notes
48 laws of power: "Never argue, take action"
this will help me so much against my dad
"politicians does the same thing"- famous last words
Use the truth bullets like in Danganronpa lmao
Idk man not everyone can handle failing art class:/
Had a debate the other day about affirmative action the other day. They used a strawman, I pointed it out, and their exact response was "nah".
My mom and sister always say it’s impossible for me to admit that I’m wrong even though I am, but they are exactly the same and plus my mom and sister doesn’t even make sense and always twist my words. I’m not even that unreasonable like they say and they are just describing themselves and I’m so annoyed with that.
my argument winrate went from 40% to 75%
Instructions unclear: the opponent sent me my exact coordinates when he ran out of comebacks
Daymn the last bit about "asking them to explain" tactic is beyond amazing! Thanks a ton! Even as a long time debate fan I've never heard or thought about it.
Would love some more speech and debate tips like these, thanks!
Me learning more from Mike than I learned in all of school
Tysm, my brother, does this all the time now. i can win the argument
Unfortunately, this could also lead you to a trap where by focusing on their strawmanning makes you unable to pursue actual points that support your argument and by the end of the debate, their reply speaker will say something to the extent of:
"The government team has spent most of their time debating definitions and semantics with my team without actually giving out objective points and reasonable arguments to this debate's main topic. Therefore, we of the opposition vehemently ask the honorable adjusticators to side with the opposition. As the government has not presented any actual argument as to why their motion should pass."
This is what i think. Nobody can be right 50% of the time. Of course, I think I'm always right. But they also think they are right. Am I 100% sure that I'm on the winning side this time? ... Unlikely.
you can still lose if you don't have the facts, but this tip is useful.
“Nah.”🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥