Beware of Christ-less Conservatism, with Jon Root
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- For the past several years, Christians have been confronted with the chaos coming from the progressive left. We’ve seen words become redefined, biblical gender and sexuality become confused, and the push for abortion rights become stronger. It can be tempting to push back by swinging from one extreme to the other. It’s important to remember what unites us in the first place. My friend Jon Root joins the podcast today to share an urgent warning with the church about what he calls “Christ-less conservatism,” and how Christians can stand for conservative values in a hostile culture without compromising biblical faith.
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Thank you for this chat, Alisa. I’m praying this is encouraging and eye-opening to many 🙏🏼
Jon Root, can you be cloned!!! (I have a couple of granddaughters 😊)
Religious belief is artificial light.
As if one should respect the suggestion, we all travel with one foot in fantasyland, using a fantasyland vocabulary.
You know them by their works, so what does it tell you about those advocating prayer? Nothing fails like prayer in a children's hospital.
Who advocates faith, when it is worthless if you can't move mountains using faith & verbal commands to landscape?
What kind of person speaks of god as if we did not have a saying: God helps those helping themselves, because gods have a perfect record of doing nothing, outside of fiction.
No wonder Feud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy.
@@Stupidityindex Religion is 'rebinding'. That assumes that there is something and that this is somehow broken or 'unknown'. Everybody does do that in some way. There is preconditions were it will be 'bound together' correctly. There is preconditions for prayer to work as well. Simply demanding 'God do something' won't work.
God is in all and through all. God is your imagination. Your conscious and subconscious mind. Your awareness of being. What you believe is the reality you create and dwell in. It’s inside of you. That’s all the bible talks about. It plainly tells you it’s within you. It’s parables, symbols, mysteries, it’s veiled. If you believe it’s something outside of you then it’s a false God and you believe in vain
@@troyr9357Jesus Christ disagrees with you.
Many Christian conservatives believe Trump is is going to save us. I’m looking to Jesus to take us.
7:08 He had his chance. Judge him by his fruits.
I don't think it's fair to say people believe Trump is going to save us.Jesus will take us, but it may not happen for another few years. I don't want to see communism in America. I don't think Christians understand how far debased the Democratic Party has become and how important conservatism is in pushing back against that agenda. Conservatives are not all Christians, but there are Christians within conservatism and we need to stay in and be an influence in the party. We need to run for office for mayor, school boards, town council. Our Christian life can be a light to conservatives that are not Christians. But I think you will find many conservatives are Catholic, not evangelical. We don't need to step back, we need to step up and be a bigger influence in the conservative party.
Not true.🤣🤣🤣
Trump will save America.
In Jesus' name. Amen
Trump and Jesus have both proven themselves to be failures. The GOP should have listened to Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul back in the day.
Still watching this video but 100% agree with the sentiment. I went to AmericaFest in Arizona last year and there was a worship time on the 2nd night. Matt Walsh filled the room for an earlier talk (about 3,000 people) and there was perhaps 10% of that for the worship time. I appreciated that one of the speakers pointed that out, and said just because people hold conservative values does not mean they are your brother or sister in Christ.
For sure. Walsh hardly displays love, joy, peace, patience, kindness…I used to listen to him but it eventually became evident that despite his values, he cares more about being right than using the truth to love his enemies.
@@Window4503 Yeah…I still watch him sometimes because he is right about a lot of things but the attitude rubs off on me and I just don’t want to be like that toward people.
Religious belief is artificial light.
As if one should respect the suggestion, we all travel with one foot in fantasyland, using a fantasyland vocabulary.
You know them by their works, so what does it tell you about those advocating prayer? Nothing fails like prayer in a children's hospital.
Who advocates faith, when it is worthless if you can't move mountains using faith & verbal commands to landscape?
What kind of person speaks of god as if we did not have a saying: God helps those helping themselves, because gods have a perfect record of doing nothing, outside of fiction.
No wonder Feud wrote the antidote to Christianity is literacy.@@cassiem2528
Yeah it seems that most of the Conservatives want to just pull a “gotcha” on the left instead of engaging with the gospel. Like you said they are right about a lot but it still doesn’t really move the needle. As it says we can do all these things but without love it means nothing, and I think this is a perfect example of that.
@@cassiem2528 I think it's less than 10% unfortunately
As an overseas missionary, we have to stay focused on the Word of God because every culture faces different issues. If we got caught up in the culture wars, we dim our light and lose our saltiness. l
So the culture your kids grow up in doesn't matter?
@@mattr.1887It doesn't matter how many kids you have and what culture you're living in, the way to live as a Christian and as a Christian parent is exactly the same.
We are to be Christ and show Christ to the world. Being Christ means doing as he did and he NEVER focused on nor got caught up in political or cultural issues.
Im grateful for & applaud how you keep your strength via our 3rce Holy God. What a constant challenge that that most of us cannot even fathom. Thank you, dear sibling, for all you do in Jesus the Christ's name (which is ALSO unfathomable to most of us) 🤗
@@mattr.1887smh. Stop with the presumptuous ridiculous, snark.
Jesus Christ is with them wherever they go in this world to do good works. Thats what matters.
I believe that is exactly the problem Christians are having.
I'm glad you are discussing this issue, as it was one I was struggling with for a long time. I went through a period in my own life where I had made an idol out of conservatism, and Jesus took a back seat. I would listen to the late Rush Limbaugh on the radio talk about hot women, cuss, and how the world was millions of years old, and I would either turn a deaf ear to it, or start talking like that myself because I falsely equated conservativism with Christianity, and if they are doing it, it must be okay. A side effect of listening to secular conservative talk radio was that I also became an angry person, and angry about life in general, and it was making me out of control. Thank God I came back to Jesus
You have a problem with science? When you speak about millions of years
Praise the Lord! Thank you for sharing your story. ❤
@@js1423 when science disagrees with God's Word--absolutely! So I guess you didn't have a problem with the other two--talking about hot chicks and cussing?
@@js1423Millions of years isn’t science, it’s a shoddy attempt at explaining creation without God. If you support evolution, you can’t logically support the idea that all humans have inherent worth and dignity when you actually think through evolution’s implications.
Limbaugh was a F. Mason.
The divorce rate for committed, active Christians is low, but the divorce rate for "fringe" Christians is incredibly high
So apparently committed, active Christians is a very small minority. Why should anyone care what such a small minority has to say?
True. I've been going to my church for thirty two years, and ALL the committed long term members have been married from 20-50+years! Some come and go, it's sad to hear about the demise of marriages by couples who were wishy-washy and church seekers, not christ followers.
@@m.r.6222 I wished that was true in my case. Its very difficult for someone like me to look around my church and see all the happy, faithful couples. and know that you're own marriage isn't happy and your own wife won't go to church with you, nor willing to seek marriage counseling
definition please: “fringe Christian”.
Culturally Christian
As a Christian musician/song writer myself, i started listening to some Bethel music until I started to realize it moved my fleshly emotions instead of a moving of the Holy Spirit where Christ was the center of worship.
Good question! I hope Richard sees your question and responds soon. I am confused about true corporate worship and what it's supposed to look like. 🤔
I recently heard someone say, “Don’t look left. Don’t look right. Look up.” Very wise words indeed!
This was such a great show. It is so easy for Christians to be caught in the tide of progressivism, forgetting that the Bible is the anchor of our faith. It's so good to see a young person like Jon Root be unafraid to speak the truth in love. The Church is in a dire state of confusion right now and, in many cases, is misleading the flock. Thank you so much for your conviction to Christ and your uncompromising stance ❤!
Excellent job. Divide and break the conservative movement from the inside. We can have liberals, Christians, and conservatives as three political parties in the US.
Alisa, I have been listening to your podcasts for quite awhile. I've learned alot from all of them. Buy this one, just hit my heart like a ton of bricks. I feel like a weight has been lifted off of me. Conservative politics without Christ accomplishes nothing. After this podcast, I unsubscribed to all of the conservative political podcasts that are not Christian, that not hold a Christian world view. I don't want to compromise. Thank you for all that God has allowed you to do for His Kingdom. Your friend in Texas - Jennifer
You may want to question the Christian ones too. There are also those who are Christian and into politics who put their own rights and earthly comfort above Jesus’ commands to preach the gospel and to carry the cross. If they’re trying to create a Christian utopia rather than point people to Jesus while accepting suffering, they should go as well.
@@Window4503anything that points outside of you you should unsubscribe
Accomplishes nothing? Really?
@@mattr.1887 who’s that?
@troyr9357 What do you mean "anything that points outside of you"?
I’m a Christian and one who pays a lot of attention to conservative politics and media. Although I agree with the sentiment of this discussion I disagree with the premise, that is, that most of us are so immature that we can’t filter out what is wrong in secular conservatism. I too find myself frustrated with secular conservatism in that it’s not conservative enough. While it is taking a strong stand against transgenderism it has accepted homosexuality. Some argue for the legalization of hard drugs. It has a tendency to lean libertarian. So yes, my frustration as a Christian is that I find myself to the right of many secular conservatives. I know the Bible. My worldview was formed from biblical principles when I was young, before I payed a lot a attention to politics. I believe most of us who pay attention to conservative media are able to filter out what is not biblical. We’re not dunces. I believe a greater problem among evangelicals is influence from the left. That would be my concern. As far as a few topics addressed: many of us don’t believe America is a new Israel, however we do believe God raises up nations, past and present, for specific purposes to further the gospel. America has been in this role. I believe the UK was in this role on the past. It may be that God raises up other nations in the future. I do believe that God laid his hand on America in a unique way and we are grieved about what is happening. As for Tate, yes I do get more disgusted with him the more I learn about him. But what allowed such an ungodly influencer to rise is the vacuum our society has created in putting down masculinity. Including in the church. I believe alot of Christian men feel emasculated by what they hear coming from pulpits at times. And no, when I hear expository preaching I don’t have a negative reaction. I love it. Because the Bible is the foundation for my belief. I wish I heard more expository preaching.
Excellent points. Spot on!
Try sermon audio for more expository preaching. Look up Paul Washer, Joel Beeke, etc.
In the Secular Conservative's defense though, sure there are *Some* who accepted Homosexuality but there are *Others* who accepted Homosexuals but never accepting & affirming the Homosexuality to align with other Secular Conservatives in the Secular Conservatism.
Thank you. It is so easy to get distracted with all of the politics going on around us. We need to keep our eyes on Christ and spend more of our time discussing and walking with Christ.
"Occupy until I come!"
I stopped being heavily politically involved after I saw how "conservatives" embraced lbgt+, like Trump did. I will serve my Lord Jesus and promote His Kingdom only. In the end its all that matters.
You have a problem with that? Many conservative parties have a libertarian stance on the subject.
Considering sexual orientation is a real and objective thing that exists among people, I don’t see problem with that.
I don't think it's fair to lump people into one category. Nor do I think American evangelical Christians understand their place in the world. There are plenty of Christian conservatives that have not embraced lbgt and Trump did not "embrace" them. You didn't see him lighting up the WH to celebrate gay marriage, or have transgenders exposing themselves like the current president. America is not Israel in the OT. We are a republic and we may disagree with gay marriage and trans, abortion and other social issues but America is not a theocracy. Conservatism is not a Christian party, there are Christians within the party. And I'm not speaking of you in particular but Christians tend to sit out and not vote and complain that the GOP isn't "Christian" enough but they wouldn't dare get up and try to run for office in their own towns. I'm a Canadian looking from the outside seeing what America is about to loose as Christians sit and complain about politics. I don't have freedom of speech where I come from. You can be a Christian and still vote your conscience.
@@js1423 The LGBT culture is an extremely big contributor to the decay of the country. For all of Trump's admirable qualities, he proves why Republicanism and liberalism are ultimately anti-God.
@@js1423 God has a real problem with all lgbtqp+ issues. He calls it sin, unnatural, unclean, and an abomination. God created everyone heterosexual. You have to choose to be perverted. God says that the lgbtqp+ ideology is perverted.
@@js1423👍 cool
Amen! The Scripture is sufficient to guide us in every situation...
Then please read it. Don't take the word of anyone what it says. Read the bible.
It is the word that was meant to guide every human. Don't listen to people who would misuse his word.
Read the bible.
No don’t read it if you are going to take it literal. The letter kills. Read it for what it is. It’s living word it’s all symbolic of God within you. Not a history book.
@@troyr9357no.
I raised my sons in Church. As young adults they turned their backs on Christianity. I believe they had more influence in public ed and social/cultural influence. The Church was silent as were we as parents.
I stopped listening to Dennis Prager over a decade ago when a local Christian talk show host who is also Jewish made the bold statement, “Christians shouldn’t listen to Dennis Prager.” I realized back then that just because we share conservative values, being overly influenced by a non-Christian who is not guided by the Holy Spirit is not healthy for me as a believer.
Dennis Prager is Jewish, and there is no reason a Christian shouldn't listen to him. He talks about family, morals, he cares about the country and talks to young people a lot on social issues. I don't know who made the "bold" statement about Prager but my guess would be that person believes in Replacement Theology and well knows that Dennis is Jewish. Are you saying we Christians can't fellowship with Jewish people who are conservative in their beliefs and stand against abortion, homosexuality, transgenders and believe in living morally according to the Bible?
@@americaneskieloverDennis Prager thinks that it's fine for men to look at porn. The word of God disagrees with him. Porn is a type of fornication, and God says that those who engage in fornication, in any form, will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
@@jamestrotter3162I was surprised to hear Dennis's view on pornography for sure. But to imply he doesn't have anything worthwhile to say just because you may disagree with him in a few instances is childish. We as conservative Christians have to be able to listen to alternate views and discern their worth based on Christianity. Dennis Prager has been an overwhelmingly positive source of wisdom and to flat out deny his opinions as worthless based on a few you disagree with is insanity. He's wrong about some things, absolutely. But that's ok. If a Christian is so shaky about their faith that they throw it out the window as soon as they hear a single Jew say pornography is ok then maybe their faith wasn't all that strong to begin with.
I think that you make a good point here. However, I also was thinking about how, even though he is a solid Christian man, President Carter did not make for a good leader for our country in many respects. We will seldom find a perfect marriage of effective conservative, leader, ship, and faith. Often times we are left choosing between the lesser of two evils, and I think that to be engaged in the political system in our country we have to make peace with that.
What an impressive man- I'm homeschooling my two teenage sons and trying to raise them in the Christian perspective - I would love to hear them speak on this way one day
If you have an optimistic Gospel (as I do) there's a tension between promoting righteousness in a culture, and knowing ultimately that it is only the Gospel, by the power of the Spirit, that can fundamentally change people. And yet, if we sincerely care about others, we have a mandate to engage in cultural dialogue for the sake of the Gospel.
Not sure why Larry Elder wasn't invited to the GOP debate, but he definitely brings up fatherless homes.
I think there were some requirements that he didn't meet that prevented him from attending
@@texasskygirl7890 like they changed the requirements at the last second - that's how dirty politics rolls.
I think part of the reason we have these christ less conservatives is because we have so many pastors that have promoted a theology devoid of politics. If we teach that God has nothing to say about politics don't be surprised that you have politics devoid of God. We need to start applying the Bible to politics not politics to the Bible. This isn't to make an idol of politics but merely to include politics as part of the many topics(like marriages, masculinity, and church), that the Bible is applicable towards.
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Amen!
Thats definitely got to be a large chuck of it. If not (a part of) the cause, atleast massively exacerbates it.
Excellent comment.
Me? I don't follow a donkey nor an elephant; I follow a LAMB.
yes
I have have had this on my mind for a while now so it's cool that you are doing an entire episode on the topic.
YES! YES! YES! Thank you Alisa and Jon for this conversation. A lot of Christians are not taking the message of Christ, they prefer to compromise.
Call out falsehoods no matter what side it comes from.
I have been telling my friends for a couple years now that conservatism without Christianity is just spite.
The more we know Scripture the more we can properly discern the political message
Funny, considering the only time abortion is mentioned in the bible it is either endorsed or demanded.
AMEN! This is the real issue
Political theology does matter. I agree.
I'm a Christian who pretty much listens to a lot of conservative political content. I agree that Andrew Tate's ideology is not compatible with my belief, and I also disagreed with Dennis Prager on the porn thing. I think it's very important for Christians to have discernment and nuanced thinking in order to filter these things. This is very good content. I thank Alyssa and Jon for using the term "Christ-less Conservatism" instead of the term "Red Pill Gurus" like in other Apologetics channel. Being "red-pilled" in Conservative circles is never defined as people who blindly believe in any "conservative" speaker. It just means you broke free of your old leftist hivemind ideas. Using the term "redpilled" negatively just vilifies people who are not necessarily on another side of the debate. I was "redpilled" when I read and listened to Thomas Sowell, Milton Friedman, and people like Jordan Peterson, but I was NEVER a fan of Andrew Tate, or Sneako, or Pearl, or even people like Milo Yanopoulos or anti-semites like Nick Fuentes. I know as a Christian that they're not good sources of information and ideas. I think Christ-less Conservatism is a better term for these people.
Great podcast. I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately. Thanks for the podcast. Christianity is what brought me to Conservatism. I love all of the conservative content especially if the creator is also a Christian. I must admit I almost got sucked into the political "Christian" conservative sphere, going to events and watching content. Although I agree with a lot of political conservative viewpoints, we must remember that Christianity is not about behavior modification or "being good." Christianity is about the fact that Christ who knew no sin, became sin for us and died in our place so that we can be reconciled to God. He has sealed us with the Holy spirit which frees us from the bondage of sin and helps us to overcome our sin. I think a lot of the "Christian" conservatives has tried to push Christianity, essentially without preaching the Gospel. They are essentially pushing behavior modification and not regeneration;
Judeo-Christian values without personal repentance and faith in Christ. This realization has helped me to keep weary of this movement.
THANK YOU! It hurts to see how a man has caused division in families, even compromise their commitment to Christ to focus on this man as almost Savior of America.
Amen amen amen. This clearly defines what I've stuggled to name in some of my fellowship.
Been thinking about this for a long time; especially when “Christ-less” conservatives (and believers!) insult and bash others. We’re not perfect in this, but we’re called to respond in gentleness and to love our enemies, even if it appears weak and ineffective to the world. We need to obey and trust God is working!
I heard a great thought when we went to a Hillsdale University event. They said that a person who says they are a "fiscal" conservative and not a "social" conservative is not a conservative but a liberal capitalist.
In other words, a Libertarian? And what would you call a "social "conservative/"fiscal" liberal (believe it or not--I've known a few in my lifetime)---a "Bryanite"? (referring to William Jennings Bryan---the socialist who defended the creation perspective at the "Scopes Monkey Trial")
@@impalaman9707Im social conservative but some of my fiscal takes end up being pretty liberal (for example, I want to end the financial corruption in medicine/healthcare and so I think the lesser of evils is single payer healthcare. What's that called?
A Libertarian, at least how I understand it, believes that all government is bad. They generally want to be left a lone to do what they want. Such a society would end up in anarchy and chaos. The point was, that if you don't understand what is most valuable to conserve - God's design for the marriage, sexuality, and family being the foundation of an healthy society along with loving God and our neighbor, true justice for all, etc. the society will fail. Capitalism without morality can be just as bad as government without morality. @@impalaman9707
@@MrPladdysingle payer insurance isn’t going to stop the financial corruption in healthcare.
You know I'm also social conservative but also a social liberal at the same time, because I also want Anti-lgbt discrimination laws & banning conversion therapy to be implemented strongly and effectively but at the same time I have favorable for banning same sex marriage and any forms of recognizing same-sex relationships and "trans" rights as well, because wanting to Anti-lgbt discrimination laws & banning conversion therapy to be implemented strongly and effectively is showing biblical love and supporting & favorable for banning same sex marriage and any forms of recognizing same-sex relationships and "trans" rights is also showing biblical love.
Dennis Prager has been married three times. I do question his influence. Appreciate you stating that we should be pray that he will become a follow of Jesus. Thank you Lord for Jon Root!!
Wow, I never knew that
Wow I was not aware. Sad.
As many times as was Rush Limbaugh
@@impalaman9707 was Rush a Christian at the time of his first marriages?
@@dmf5rn Good question!
Summed up title: BEWARE of APOSTASY!!!
Good pod Alisa and Jon.
2 things Jon mentioned
1.) child/sex trafficking is bigger than drugs and weapon trafficking 2.) Being as Dennis is a Jew he doesn’t understand Matthew 5:27-29.
I was thinking about this topic all last week. Glad this came out! ❤
If Christians want to save their country, America or Canada we need to be sharing the Gospel so much more than fighting the government. Biblically the only was the Israelite were able to save nor restore their people/land was turning to Jesus!!!
FINALLY SOMEONE IS SAYING WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID!
THANK YOU JESUS!
CONSERVATISM DOES NOT MEAN CHRISTIAN IF JESUS isn't in it!
Help us Lord. Thank you Jesus. This conservative is REALLY TIRED of hearing "Christianity" that sounds like NATIONALISM!
Still listening to the podcast…I’m at the point of manly conservative but unchristian influences…has anyone else heard of Nick Freitas? He’s a conservative from VA that is a Christian…that said I have done no research…he’s just got some good things to say about life, liberty, faith and family…he’s snarky about it so definitely not a perfectly loving representative of Christ but I appreciate the honesty.
I appreciate this discussion. I couldn’t put my finger on why I felt connected to Matt Walsh and Andrew Tate but also knew something wasn’t quite right. I think it is important to listen to what they have to say so we know what others are hearing, so we can pray for them. They are a window into where other ppl are. It helps to know where ppl are to connect with them and share the gospel.
It’s good to listen to conservative voices because the Church is so pathetic and spineless (when we actually have God Himself living in us) that we need some practical direction in how to function in society.
The Church by and large is a joke and of no value to society.
The only thing they’re good at is standing in judgment of those that don’t think just like them.
We are fighting the same war.
Excellent job. Divide and break the conservative movement from the inside. We can have liberals, Christians, and conservatives as three political parties in the US.
Wow Alisa, THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR THIS INTERVIEW. IT HAS BEEN MY COMPLAINT ABOUT MANY CHRISTIANS FOR A LONG TIME. What a blessing to hear this addressed. If the Bible correctly understood is not our foundation for all of our political, cultural and social as well as religious views, then we are a part of the problem.
I'm so glad you're highlighting this. I can't stand how Andrew Tate, especially, is heroized by some conservatives. My husband and I have had many conversations lately about non-Christian conservatives and the areas in which we can't agree with them - even though we're both quite conservative ourselves. I've been thankful that he doesn't agree with the women-hating "red-pilled" influencer men, just as he's glad I'm not a man-hating woman. Gender wars are the worst.
I'm so glad this conversation is going on. I've been saying this for a few years now.
As a Jewish person, I'm kind of puzzled at the views stated by Dennis Prager, that in Judaism, looking at pornography is ok. It's true that in traditional Judaism that "what you do" seems to be more important than "what you think," but maintaining sexual purity in both deed and thought is a big deal among the devoutly Orthodox. I remember when I was in Israel I saw a "Candid Camera" type show on TV. The scenario they set up was to have an attractive young woman in a very short dress carrying a bunch of oranges in her arms. As a man would come walking by, she'd "accidentally" drop the oranges, and start to bend over to pick them up, her short dress going up as she bent over exposing what was underneath. As she did, the camera would pan over the man, and note his reaction... some leered lustfully, some were just kind of stunned at what they were seeing. The studio audience laughed at each man's reaction. Then they showed a devout Orthodox man coming up (black hat, black coat, white shirt), the camera panned over to the woman dropping the oranges, starting to bend over to pick them up, and then the camera panned back to the man to get his reaction. The man had turned his face away, taken off his hat and put it over his face (so he couldn't see the woman). Perhaps Prager is getting his views from the more liberal "streams" of Judaism, but devout, Orthodox Jews would not find it at all acceptable to look at pornography.
Watching from Cape Town South Africa
Thank you for talking about this topic, which I feel is often Not seen :)
NAR is the natural progression of the prosperity/law of attraction message
~29:00 His comment about Christians having a worse divorce ratio than unbelievers. I recommend Alisa's interview with Nancy Pearcey on her book
"Toxic War on Masculinity"
technically cultural Christians have more divorces than unbelievers where as born again/ loyal Christians have less divorces. :)
Thank you for sharing ❤I accidentally came across Takeaways with Kirk Cameron and you were on.. and I’m glad I did. You put everything in to perspective🙏🏻❤️
Such a timely encouraging conversation!!
Thank you for making this video, it is so full of encouragement and an eye-opener to areas we need to pray God for to guide us, so that the glory is all to Him and not to us.
As I was listening to both of you, I noticed a pattern... it is the need people have of a male role model, when in reality, the role model per excellence, and only one, is Jesus. He taught us all we need to know on how to live a life that glorifies God. He is the one to follow!!!
It was also brought to my mind, the passage of the apostle Paul, it reads: "Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil." 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22, which also lead me to think about the common practice the Bereans had, was exactly this very one!! (Acts 17:10-15)
The order is very clear, God, He created the place for us to live in, He provided us with all the food we need to look after our bodies, then He created man in His image and likeness, then God created the ideal helper, woman... not from the man's feet, head, knee... but from a rib!!! Isn't that wonderfully significative?? It reminds me of that game we used to play, the three legged race?? If we think about it, to win the race we got to run with our eyes on Jesus and together. We are stronger only when Jesus is the centre of everything in our lives and relationships.
Thank you once again for everything, may God bless you, guide you and use you for His glory, that many be lead to the cross of Jesus, who gave His life to that we may have life and more abundantly!!
Instead of leading in all these conversations in the past up to now, we are only reacting now. We are supposed to be the head, not the tail!!!
Thank you so much for this podcast. I really appreciate you holding to what the scripture teaches instead of what our human desires might be. I think the real reason God does not want women to be pastors is because he wants men to be mature, to be leaders, to grow up, and if women do that for them, they’ll be sitting on the sidelines and going fishing instead. I believe it’s for the spiritual maturity of men to step up to the plate and seek God to make them godly leaders. Women need to get out of the way and let God do what he wants to do. Women are very influential on their husbands and their children and others anyway, we don’t need the position of pastor of a church .
I've been saying it for a while now, and that's that people within the liberty/freedom movements want out from the yoke of tyranny but most are unwilling to acknowlwdge and repent of the wicked behaviour that has brought the cultural rot. We can not have it both ways. (Sorry, I'm not sorry). [Edit: Secularly speaking: 'Do what you've always done and get what you've always got.']
Yes yes yes yes! Thank you so much for talking about this!
Thank you for addressing this.
Thank you Alisa and Jon. Good conversation
There are a lot of people who think they are Christian. The “inherited” church is in decline…we need to be the “believing “ church…it’s getting stronger
When I hear podcasts like this it gives one the impression that the only people who are not in error and have it all right are the ones speaking.
❤ -thanks Jon Root & Alisa! Excellent podcast. (Love Costi too. )
Great interview and discussion connecting to a number of threads and trends, calling out some key influencers. Character and truth matter!
This sounds like a good topic, but let's remember to do the video on its counterpart: "Beware of Christ-less Liberalism, with so-and-so."
Christ-less liberalism goes without saying
@@Paul-ih4epexactly! Liberalism is at its core Christless!
@@Paul-ih4ep Agreed.
Thank you Alisa and John. ❤ Australia 🇦🇺
Thank You!❤
Thank you! It's a very needed conversation.
I have the Founders Bible and read the whole thing. It doesn't put our country over scriptures, it just shows how our country was founded as a Christian nation by people who believed Christianity was good. America was based on biblical morals and wisdom and so we have been used. It doesn't mean that we will be a world leader in the future. Likely, we have lost our leadership role already. We just want to keep our country based on biblical values as originally intended. All other things, I agree with you 100%. Thanks for speaking up.
This is such a much needed topic in both Christian and conservative communities as many seem to intersect in both these circles. Or like the guest said, he experienced many who tried on the Christian thing and were accepting of these non-Christian cultural practices.
Excellent interview! 🙏🏻❤️
From the outside of the USA, I shake my head. That somehow I’m not a Christian because I’m not republican, or because of the country I live in I’m personally attacked. I won’t fight tooth and nail for my country. My allegiance in to Jesus only. Because allegiances to a country could hurt the gospel. Losing might be winning. Jesus’ death looked like losing, but it was winning. God does things that don’t make sense. And that is the very difference between American and other country. The fear of change, and a heart of rebellion in the country of a whole, as it was founded on rebellion. Be Bible literate. Know who it was written too (hint the Middle East) and read early church fathers. And test your heart always. Is this God, or this world? Is this God Kingdom? Or earthly kingdom?
This statement is so very wise. I live in the USA and have thought that this nation is very much not in line with Biblical Values, Christ's Values. Godly Values. Although my whole life "Christians" have told me we fight wars to promote a good way of life and spread peace, it never looked that way to me. How can we spread peace through war? I very much agree that winning is not always a good thing.
Well there are things a believer just can’t morally support on the democrat platform. I guarantee no one in my church is a democrat. Spirit led Christians don’t vote for the party of evil.
If you don’t think that winning isn’t “always a good thing”… you will always be a loser.
How was America founded on rebellion pray tell?
Paul stated in his letters to the Corinthians that the scriptures were written for Christians _in the last days_ (1 Cor. 10:11). That is why the Bible was written for posterity. Just because books were directly written for someone else, it doesn't mean it was ultimately for them to understand. Most of the prophecy contained in the Bible has _end-time_ implications.
Excellent conversation. Thank you Alisa.
This was a valid and pertinent discussion.
Does Religion "Cow-tow" to politics? or does Politics "cow-tow" to Religion? We see here, a need for Balance. Neither should cancel out the other. And remember WHERE you are. In church, the BIBLE takes precidence. In the state capitol, Politics and laws take precidence but remember the Faith that the Founders had. Morality over Atheism. People used to pray for Wisdom. We should do that today, ourselves.
The Founding Fathers talked about individual rights, but they acknowledged that rights came from God.
Here, i think we see the importance of a good Balance between respecting the Creator, yet letting people live in Freedom and pursue their own Life, Liberty and pursuit of Happiness.
Does that mean "anything goes"? NO. They recognized that Freedom does NOT mean we get to:
steal from our neighbor
Defraud people and be dishonest in business
run rampant with wild sexuality and cheating with your neighbors wife
kill innocent people
falsely slander people. NO. They were "Moral men".
They may have drank some Whiskey or wine, in 1780, but they also weren't "lushes". They tried to be upright and Godly and allow others their rights, as well as enjoy their own.
You might say "Freedom Plus Godliness". We need both.
You DEFEND your Country. You BELIEVE IN and FOLLOW God's will.
Politics? or Religion. Think of 1800. (AND now)- you admire the Flag and your Country and GUNS help you defend it. Thats the politics side. But the BIBLE guides Morality and your Faith. The difficulty we have today, is that since 1800, we've had all sorts of odd religions and philosophies crop up or be "imported"into the country. Politics and Laws allow us to choose, for ourselves. Thats Freedom. Christianity needs to "sell itself" better in a world of competing beliefs. But be open about it. Dont hide the "real" teachings or hidden agenda of a church. Here, is where individual Christians need Discernment. Keep it Biblical if you're going to be a Christian.
We don't want a hyper-moral "inquisition" but we dont want to lose sight of Creation and the Creator, and Fairness and Decency, and Fruits of the Spirit, either.
Also Remember that sincere Christian prayer can be quite helpful. Beyond that, there's 2 more things:
1. Jon seems to be taking Christianity seriously and not watering it down. Kudos to him for taking a stand. And the other thing:
2. It would be good to spread the word and Inform people about what N.A.R. is all about. Are people involved in it thinking its this, when its really that? As a parallel example, many christians might attend their church thinking all is well, yet not knowing that their church teaches Calvinism (and they likely wont tell you voluntarily, either. They'll just preach it) or even what it is! How would they feel about Calvinism if they knew about Arminianism, which they probably also don't know about? Are they simply getting caught-up in the worship? Healings? or so-called words-of-knowledge? (see Hebrews Chapter ONE, verses 1-4).
Too often, toooo many Pastors wanna be "Top Dog" and have the biggest and coolest church in town, (with some it can be an obsession), and/or become more Famous, and so they start trying to pump everybody else up that he/she has had a "special annointing" or "NEW Revelation". They haven't.
How do I know?
READ the opening four verses of Hebrews Chapter ONE. You have Jesus. You have the Word. see 2nd Timothy Chapter 3, verses 16, 17. The word is good for"instruction in Righteousness". You already have what you need. Use it!
Excellent video‼ Truth in love.❤
His comments on the LGBTQ- SPOT ON. We cannot “accept” LGB and not accept T…. We have to stand on Gods Truth and be firm on His intentions for marriage. In fact I’d argue we are where we are in our country BECAUSE we started accepting a perversion of marriage with lesbians and gays. Making that okay makes it easier to make all this perversion okay. We need a strong church!!
So good, so important. Must be discerning, in the word. Hold to the biblical worldview and don't fear man, fear God.
Thank you for discussing the distinctions, especially important with an election year coming up. Let's be obsessed with scripture and biblical righteousness, which are not synomymous with political persuasions.
As “Christ followers”(I prefer to say that instead of a “Christian”)
Our focus HAS to be Jesus. He is our hope, not a politician.
I’m hearing people use that term a lot lately, and it seems more accurate than the cultural blanket term of “Christian”. I’d say that it fits with the biblical definition of disciple, as well.
Amazing episode like always!
Beautiful!! 😍
After watching that conversation between Matt Fradd and Dennis Prager, I have trouble looking at Dennis in the same way. “If you want to be the quarterback, you have to speak for the team.” Being the quarterback also means taking some of the hardest hits. If you want to position, better be ready for that.
Php. 3:20: "For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ...."
We must always realize the Kingdom of God is what we are to pray for, not the kingdom of man.
Great interview hit the mark!
Excellent video, thank you.
Wow! This is a bold discussion. Thanks you
Yes, Christ-less conservatism is a real problem. Christians need to be careful and continue to keep Christ where He needs to be: on the throne of our hearts. It's obvious that the Right shares many of the principles associated with the Christian life. And if you wanted to stretch it, you could say that some tenets of the Left do too, but the differences are huge now.
I hope you also follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and not just worshipping him, re-read the Beatitudes.
Great video!
Even if porn didn't have all of the negative impacts you listed, even if it was "better" than premarital sex or adultery, it doesn't change the fact that it's still wrong. As Christians we aren't called to choose the sins that aren't as "bad" as the others. We are called to flee from all sin.
Agreed
I can’t thank you enough for this podcast I’ve stopped listening to talk radio and consider myself a homeless conservative because of the worship of Trump. I just want to follow Jesus. He’s the hope for our country!
To follow Jesus you have to know what that is. It’s not a separate man outside of you. It’s the power and wisdom of God within you.
@@troyr9357no.
@@troyr9357huh?
I too am a homeless conservative. You aren’t alone.
As always, this is another great show. This is a long comment, but bear with me as you may find it interesting and worth considering: Something I would highly recommend is that conservative and Christian influencers and podcasters become familiar with popular figures they are going to critique or talk about. A good place to start with Andrew Tate would be the Tucker/Tate interview. Yes it’s long, but watch it through. You owe it to yourself, your audience and your conscience to personally give your attention and consideration to populist figures in the culture wars. However, something that we need to be mindful of when it comes to the likes of Tate (and Trump) is that no one is saying that these people are to be looked to for spiritual advice or “Messianic” type guidance. Any devout follower of Jesus will see clearly that these influencers won’t replace the spiritual truths and therefore will not be so threatened by them. And any disciple of Christ with discernment will see why God has allowed or raised up the likes of Tate (or Trump) for this hour in relation to the culture wars.
God is allowing the likes of Tate (and Trump) for a reason - maybe because the Christian community isn’t being the salt, light and threat to the globalist cultural, political and economic agendas as we should be. It’s interesting that what is happening with Tate now in the cultural sphere is what we went through with Trump in 2016 in the political sphere. TONS of Christians had a massive problem with voting for Trump initially because they felt as if voting for him to fill a political post was somehow giving him a personal endorsement as a person. And these are NOT one and the same thing. Voting for or supporting a political leader or even social influencer for the good they bring to their sphere of the fight DOES NOT mean you are embracing them as a person or affirming their private life. And yet it was extremely difficult for many “Christians” to get this through their skulls back in 2016.
The split second someone tried to point out all the political perspectives that Trump had which were extremely good and important relating to foreign policy and the economy, someone would counter their point with a lengthy post with tons of Bible verses about how Trump was an immoral man and didn’t measure up to Biblical Christian standards. And it had to be brought to the attention of these well meaning but sincerely misguided Christian conservative zealots that we were not voting on our next prophet, priest or Messiah. We were simply voting on the man who could best fill a secular post within government relating to the national and international demands and intrigues of politics.
And it’s the same with Tate in 2023. Tate has had an extremely good effect on many young men, has inspired many men to work hard, take responsibility, not to be passive, etc. Tate has also just recently admitted that his choices of the past were wrong, has come out AGAINST pornography (yes you read that right), come out against big pharma, the military industrial complex and abortion. And I’m only naming a few things. Is Tate a bit of an enigma? Yes! Is he misguided about true Christian masculinity? Yes. But does this mean he is not being used by God right now to come against some of the cultural and social agendas of the globalists? NO! He is! Ironically I have known Christian men who have been motivated by Tate and actually get on fire for Jesus and their responsibilities as a godly man as a result of Tate’s influence and teachings. Again, go figure!
Something that genuine Christ following Christian conservatives need to remind themselves of or ask themselves about is that passage where Jesus clearly states that a Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. And He made it very clear that Satan cannot fight against Satan, or his kingdom will not stand. And while Christians don’t seem to be able to take this point seriously, Satan does! Satan knows right well that he can’t fight against himself. So Christians need to ask themselves why it is that the global and political and social elites hate Tate so much!? The globalists who are clearly Satanic in their origin and pursuits have done everything under the sun to cancel Tate and destroy his influence in the world. Why? Why is it that the globalists and social engineers hate Tate so much? Because he is a threat! And while Christians can’t seem to perceive the threat Tate is to the cultural order, Satan can.
Interesting isn’t it how in England Tate is not even to be discussed in school or on school grounds. During WW2 you could talk about Hitler. He wasn’t a forbidden subject. After Sept. 11, you could talk about Bin Laden. And yet Tate is forbidden? Tate may be a diamond in the rough, but I would caution Christians to be very careful and in a fear of God when speaking of Tate or contemplating him. Because right now he is a far bigger threat to Satan’s plans in the social and cultural spheres than most Christians combined.
Appreciate the solid, Biblical, thoughts on this podcast. I would highly recommend you all read Eric Metaxas' book, "Letter to the American Churches" to compliment (and maybe challenge) some of the thoughts here.
This was my thought about Christian America: “Paul would send America a letter!” 😂 I’ll have to see if I can find this book around.
I would like to listen to the sermon series Jon Root mentioned about life. Where can I find it?
Watching from the PNW..
Thank you for talking about this. This is why I couldn't get behind President Trump and a lot of the the "conservative" Christian pundits. They say that their faith is the cornerstone of their political positions but they contradict themselves all the time.
So you’re not voting for the guy who got roe overturned and all but stopped human trafficking because he is a professed Christian but is also a sinner?
So who did you get behind? Biden?
@@smt0202 Why are you so offended that I have a different view point than you?
@@MrBowser2012Sorry but Trump is not a Christian.
@@smt0202exactly.. goodness… or desantis😅
Wow!! I enjoyed this!!!
Amen. Yes.
Great broadcast. Politics is not the answer. It's Jesus and we need to vote accordingly.
How about two gay females who are "married" to each other and both are legally practicing Pastors. That has blown me away that a traditional denomination they belong to has accepted and allowed this.
Women have often been the “sacred cow” that you don’t touch or criticize since they are”oppressed” by the Patriarchy.
Marriage is human-made institution, so not sure why cry about it
@@js1423 Read Genesis 2:24, Hebrews 13:4 for example. Really - a human institution? Wow, I wonder what your religious "institution" is. Are you one of those "convenient Christian" believers? Name the human who created marriage. Adam and Sara knew nothing about marriage at first.
@@susanbender6029 Not gonna reveal my theological/philosophical believes here, but I’m not really convinced Adam and Eve existed.
Also, did you mean Abraham and Sarah?
@@susanbender6029 as far as when marriage was invented, I suspect it started as monogamous relationships between the first humans in the prehistoric times, and became more systematized when peoples became agrarian.
What He Must Be by Voddie Baucham is an awesome book-this guy is preparing well for his marriage!! ❤
Simply put: focus on Jesus, the Gospel and God's Word no matter what. Thank you for this wonderful conversation. It is a great reminder to keep our eyes and hearts focused on Christ.
Btw, does anyone know where one can purchase Alisa's books if you are in the Asian region? Most Christian books I see or are featured in Christian YT channels are difficult to find or purchase if you're outside of the US. Thank you in advance!
I agree that Christ-less conservatism is a problem. The first example that came to mind was Turning Point with Charlie Kirk's endorsement of homosexuality. Then I find out that Jon Root is with Turning Point, which left me confused. Why is Jon with Turning Point?
I deeply appreciate you Alisa and your heart for the purity of the Gospel and the church and on most issues I agree with you. But I am burdened by the severity you speak out against not only beliefs but people holding those beliefs. I come from a NAR hypercharismatic background and have been deeply hurt and abused in that space and as a consequence deconstructed and through the grace of God quickly reconstructed. So I by experience understand the dangers of these false teachings. Non the less I met amazing Christians in that space and God worked even there something that now has led to me having a solid foundation. I still draw on some of the things that the Spirit did in me as I was under that false leadership, but despite even so much false teaching the Holy Spirit still could work in me. We need to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. We need to affirm the Gospel and simple Christianity as much as we can. I don't think there is anything wrong with going to a prayer meeting with together with NAR leaders, as long as the main approach is simply the Gospel. When they would hold a seven mountain mandate meeting or something I wouldn't go but a simple revival prayer? Many NAR leaders understand repentance! I would join with Catholics, Orthodox, Calvinists or Hypercharismatics as long as its about Jesus despite differing on important points with all of them! We really need to be humble here and to what Gavin Ortlund calls spiritual triage: unity in the essentials, liberty in the non-essentials, love towards all! I think Calvinism is a deeply God-dishonoring belief, but I also recognize that man Jesus-loving, genuine, spiritual Christians hold to that. I can differ with them on the belief and agree with them on loving the crucified and risen Lord! God is working in mysterious ways and Hes working way more than we realize, thanks be to God!!!
I love what he said about godly men!