How the Internet Crossed the Sea | Nostalgia Nerd
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- Isn't it strange how millions of people on one side of the Atlantic, can instantaneously communicate with people on the other side, all at once, and with hardly any delay. Well, it's not only strange, it's incredible. To understand how data travels under vast oceans from one place to another, we actually have to start in the mid 1800s. This is the time when the first undersea cables were laid, and astonishingly, when the first communication took place from Europe to America. Since those first undersea telegraph cables, we've moved onto undersea telephone cables and more recently, onto fibre optic cables capable of carrying our beloved internet vast distances.
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A correction: At 1:30(ish) - I mean 1837 rather than 1937.
A further correction: At 0:28 - Faraday invented the first electric motor, not battery. Faraday built on Alessandro Volta's work after creating the Voltaic pile.
ANOTHER correction: At 13:00 This should be 100 for 2,000 miles. Although closer to 200 were needed for the longer distances these cables were span across.
This is my fault for trying to error check at 3am with no coffee. Apologies, and I hope it doesn't infringe on your viewing pleasure too much.
Just left a comment re maths at 13:00 too.
@@JamieCrookesYes!
0:29 - Alessandro Volta invented the first battery, in 1800, not Faraday.
8:55 - You mean Antonio Meucci did that, as acknowledged by the US Government in 2000. Bell outright copyright trolled the Italian.
Never worry about the mistakes mate. The fact that people spot them means your content was interesting enough for people to pay attention to. You've crammed a lot of detail into this video. There's absolutely no shame in getting a few details wrong. It's obviously not through lack of understanding. It's just the verbal equivalent of a typo. I think this is one of your best videos content wise. Made for great viewing whilst eating my chinese takeaway.
Mehh, its only TH-cam, dw. Still a well told story.
Imagine being the guy who fries the first cable that had so much effort and work to lay it.
5:40 "[Mistaken] that electricity flowed like water rather than pulses [as was soon accepted]. British Engineer *WildMan WhiteHouse* tried to _force a higher voltage_ down the line to _force the messages_ through. This just _FRIED the cable_ until it stopped working!"
That early cabling never could have worked especially with an impure core resistance too much like a heating element. But in the history books/vid streams a poor single loley British Engineer really took the fall for frying it. Maybe he should have awaited further opinions but still perhaps a bit unfairly, with it arguably making little difference? At least it finally proved to all that a MUCH more thought out approach in every way was needed!
Continuing the water analogy, _current_ is still used and I've heard China interuses pressure with amperage. ;]
::starts whistling::
::puts hands in pockets::
::slowly walks away::
Uhhmm oops sooorrryyy
@@djosearth3618 Er, *loley*? Is that what they sing in rumba songs? Or is it foley artists running down metallic staircases, as they often seem to do, while listening to samples of bullets ricocheting on thingummies? I'd love to know, to be able to interuse it.
The original IT support disaster.
Huh. I never considered the possibility of losing my internet connection to a shark attack before.
You wouldn't even loose complete connection, it would just be alot slower
Sharknado.
a shark byte
A mega-shark byte
the shark is honestly more likely to break its teeth then manage to get through the cable
Girlfriend in America: Why didn't you call me.
Boyfriend in the UK: A shark cut the line.
Girlfriend: Oh, that's your excuse for everything.
@@sanctumsomega or she's got a wide gash.
Jaws 2020: Just when you thought it was safe to go back online.....
@@Grayvorn "Remember Jaws?"
@@MajorShanks I do, watched the iconic opening scene in English class once too.
@@Grayvorn That was a Mr. Plinkett quote 😄 But I remember it too 👍
To think about, that in 1988 280Mbps was the total capacity between the two continents, and now I have a 500Mbps connection to the world from my home, is.. unreal. It's only 31 years apart. What a time to be alive.
Thanks for this extremely well edited video!
and I just upgraded to 10Gbps for my server...
i know... I really enjoy living these times... but I CAN'T feel happy because I could born like 30, 50, or even 100 years later to see more IMPROVENTS! damn..
5G will soon give everyone 1 Gbps connections --- even in a log cabin in the deep woods !!
How the..
@@lagillas Only if we don't mess up with climate change
Hmm... I'm surprised there hasn't been a James Bond where the villain plots to disconnect the cables underwater and cause global economic disaster. They could have sharks with lasers.
Yes... I would watch this.
laser sharks !
I like it. Would definitely be a better plot than the current diversicult social justice rubbish being rammed into Bond and other action cinema.
Sharks with Freakin laser beams!
James -Bond- Bandwidth
Great now where all on the watchlist.
Interesting. In the 1960s we're still having trouble making phone calls across the sea, yet we're landing people on the moon and talking to them.
Radiowaves travelling in straight line, not hindered by the curvature of the earth.
It's easier to shoot up than around "corners."
@referral madness I've heard that fact before. but no. I'm not nearly old enough to remember 16 years before I was born.
@referral madness yes, lots of people that are older 60, 70, and 80 years old that would remember how difficult it was to make international phone calls.
@referral madness Well, within reason, how new and difficult a technology is/was, can be measured by the prices of using them.
I am 27 years old. My parents needed to go to special "phone call centrals" to call their parents (Sweden to Lebanon) when I was a child (I don't remember that), but what I remember is how expensive it was later, when you could buy "call-cards" with a code to type in. (Call operator of card > input unique code of bought card > input overseas number to actually call)
A 40 min call could cost 100 SEK (~$14 counting on the earliest exchange rate I could find, from 2003). Also, these cards "minutes" would often get reduced too quick, especially when the line would be shaky and drop, and you needed to make new call.
100 kr/14 dollars 17 years ago was obviously worth more than they do today, and we're not even talking about transatlantic undersea cable-carried calls!
Tfw you break your brand-new undersea cable almost immediately.
by basically ragrequitting and kicking it to get it to work
Don't give it Linus.
@Rich that feeling when?
@@hunteradcock8023 the floop when
@Rich that fart when
my great aunt worked for bell labs and the govnt developing sonar for the military back in the day. Its really interesting to see the humble beginings, and the effort and hopefulness of the projects, not to mention the scale. Thank god for those older folk who actually made the world a better place, without concern of recognition.
"this was the age of steam and so such technology was miraculous and useful" could be said in the 1800's and the 2010's
"miraculous" is a completely relative term.
"Unplug the PC honey, I need to call my mum!"
yeeeee bruv that was exactly how it was my guy bloody hell man :)
really bro, no one cares, if you understand the joke..
*sniff* im smellin a lot o nostalgia 'ere you got a loicense for that eh?
``How the Internet Crossed the Sea``
It surfed.
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you're looking to make crappy jokes on the interwebs, I can tell you I didn't laugh.... but what I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you stop making shitty jokes now, that will be the end of it - I will not look for you, I will not pursue you... but if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you... and I will kill you.
@@oteletampis7513 stfu
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Bruh
@@oteletampis7513 this post is cringier than the joke
That was fantastic! You've gone from awesome game/pc related vids to full-on tv quality documentaries chap. I daresay I would use this to teach my class about how we transmit data and the truly astounding work that was done to lay the foundations for what we have today. Top work!
Watching this I thought the same, but then it dawned on me: it's even better than TV documentaries, because there's no over-dramatization ("did they get the wire down, let's find out after the break"), no endless repeats of the same thing ("before the break we explained this simple thing, now we explain it again, in case you have forgotten... ah well, let's do another break, then start essentially from the beginning again") and so on...
20 minutes of well delivered (and well illustrated) information with no unnecessary ballast attached to it. Thumbs up to that!
@@jk9554 👍👍👍
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It was actually on TV, I think BBC 4. That had acting, not just pics.
I loved the genuine historical footage and illustrations, as well as the CG embellishments of such.
It's a pity that such great content doesn't have a proper audience, while some BS has millions of views. Keep up the good work!
Excuse me, is 400.000 a small amount?
@@DmitryChmelyov it isn't but is it big compared to multimillion subs/views of some prankster or let's player?
Unsub to Pewdiepie!
Are you English?
@@lateral1385 Tajik!
When you think about it, the level to which technology has progressed is nothing short of absolutely insane.
The more you learn about it, the more mystifyingly incredibly awe inspiring it all really is.
Just think about it. We went from carrying messages written on paper on horseback to today when we could transmit terabytes of information across the globe in an instant.
It's completely mental.
Iron Lightning the worst part is we should be further along because some companies milked the market (intel). Image some of the tech we use today cane out in the 70s. We should be further along.
@@NovaDoll We would be exponentially more advanced if certain groups didn't retard advancement of knowledge such as religions and governments.
and the rate of invention is continuously accelerating
My grandmother passed away in the late 1990s and before she died she commented that probably no one could have seen so much change in their lifetime. The world she was born into was so vastly different to the one she died in. And yet when I consider how fast things have changed over the last 25 years, it seems there's more to come!
@@Scripture-Man There's simply no way to predict where we as humanity might be in the next few decades.
Back sometime in the late 1800's the commissioner of the US patent office said that "Everything that can be invented has been invented."
That was over a hundred years ago.
Obviously, that was famously incorrect. But it just goes to show how impossible it is to predict what kind of advancements we could make.
It's amazing how many people today think their cell phones and home internet connections communicate via satellites. It's nearly all terrestrial.
I suppose people are getting confused between an internet input and GPS.
Exactly this. When people think internet connection, they think that they are being connected to fucking outer space
I honestly had no idea there was a cable across the sea. I thought 100% of internet used satellites. The idea of there being a huge cable going all the way across the Atlantic still seems kind of far-fetched, while the idea of using something so physical seems kind of crude and old-fashioned.
@@Scripture-Man I don't really know but I think it's possible to say most of the internet is underwater.
Well they don’t exactly tell anyone.
Great documentary, a good reminder that our internet is not invisible satellite wave but actual cables, also the technology about cables is more than just a metal string
You might say it's a series of tubes.
Reminds me of people who think cloud storage is actually in the cloud
You do realize that satellite internet is a real thing right? Cable internet just provides faster speeds therefore is used more. Satellite tv is also a real thing. You use a satellite dish that points up to receive the signal.
Rawler94 flat earther spotted
hankyboy42594 yes I know satellite Internet exists, bus is less common, the majority of computers that are connected to the Internet are broadband wired, also most cellphone communications (3g, 4g etc) are wireless until a the nearest cell phone tower, from there its a landline until the destination
At this moment the company I work for is recovering the TAT1 Cable for recycling, very interesting to hear and see what it did and meant for today's internet connection!
I think the best thing about TAT1 was the flexible repeaters - they are like maybe fifteen little train cars that are waterproof but flexible just like the cable, to go around the drums and cable tanks without any special repeater handling gear. Even the thermionic valves are included, the whole thing is amazing. Please look after those repeaters, there are many people around the world who would love to have one for their cable museums!
Holy freaking shit!
Can I see it somewhere, do you guys upload videos of your work somewhere?
14:00 So TAT1 was the one or the one after when the used 2 physical cabling, one for each direction?
That's actually a pretty cool job considering that your name is Onderwater.....
@@djosearth3618 Yes TAT1 was two cables in the sea (but one cable where it crossed Newfoundland).
Hi - I worked in BT Submarine Cable R&D for more than 20 years, and I wish that your video had existed as introductory material for our students and other visitors! In working on projects from TAT8 to TAT14 and beyond, I must say that the work was fascinating, with a mix of things large (ships) and small (photons and fibres), and things that never change (waves, rock abrasion, repeater housings) and things changing all the time (components, transmission methods, network topology, industry alliances). Anybody with an 'engineering mind' would certainly find a happy place in one of the companies currently operating in the field!
Many people still think of satellites as the 'modern thing' whereas the reality is that for long haul traffic they were out of the picture decades ago. I would be surprised if they even amount to 1% now, though I suppose there will always be islands too small to support the cost of a cable landing even from a branching unit on another cable.
Thanks for your video.
I work as an engineer for a few cable systems in Asia and I agree with you on all your points. Very interesting work indeed. Though I wish people would stop fueling the fire on the shark bite topic, considering how rare it is.
@@75190255508 Well, we can't help it. The sheer 'randomness' is some part of a humor code. I bet you found it funny when you first heard about it.
i don't know how to cope with the fact the internet is carried out on multicolour shark proof lazer cables
Honestly I can't imagine how else it would be done
@@Leo9ine Bluetooth
@The Intermediate Gamer honestly I agree, don't know why I posted this, maybe it was funny to me at the time
@@Lanurus was you just dropped on the head 🙃
@@jaybiedayy3347 yes
How do we never hear about this? I didn't even know these existed until I was out of school.
I would be ten folds more interested in learning if I were shown how much effort it took to come to this point in technology. They only want us to learn some formulas and do well in test smh.
Right! That engraving of the Pony Express rider looking at them puttin up the telegraph lines should have been in my history textbook. That was a powerful image.
Seems like someone never picked up a book
Don’t let schooling interfere with your education.
School keeps you dumb
Thanks for this great documentary. I loved it!
Genuinely one of the best things, I've watched on TH-cam for a long time. Please make more videos like this
Why did you add a comma after the word things? That's grammatically retarded, unless it was a typographical error.
I couldn't have watched this without those pioneers that laid down the first transatlantic cables
Thank you, man!
This was fascinating and a joy to watch.
This autoplayed after some random video I was watching and after a few minutes I was like, "I should subscribe to this." And then noticed it was you who I've been subscribed to for ages.
Keep up the good work!
so if im not wrong, if this video was uploaded to a server in the USA. then this video has techically traveled over one of these cables to get to the server in the netherlands right?
yes
@@KuntalGhosh Probably not
@@KuntalGhosh What cable (or other medium) does "directly" travel over?
@@KuntalGhosh But that is the same as what the original poster said. You said there was another way "directly".
@@KuntalGhosh Your English is bad. The original poster asked whether the video travelled from USA to Netherlands over one of the underwater cables. You said there is another way "directly". But now it seems you can neither read nor write English to explain what you mean.
I've enjoyed watching your channel evolve over time, but this -- this is excellent content. Well done!
I did not expect to enjoy this history lesson as much as I did... and I have to say that I enjoyed it so much thanks in large part to your enthusiastic writing/narration as well as the choice of musical score. Well done!
You just got a subscriber. Top quality editorial work. This is not professionalism, this is enthusiasm in its purest form.
One of the most amazing video I've ever seen on TH-cam! Thank you for such unique content!
Perfect doco!!! Many many thanks for all the countless hours put into this! Your channel always a treat!
This is the best video I have found on the subject. Thanks so much !
So theres literally a fricking cable under the ocean that allows me to connect to the world
Wild
It's so interesting to see how these modern cables are truly an engineering feat.
World Wild Web
Yeah no foolin, til I saw this video I was under the impression it was somehow beamed wirelessly across the ocean
A lot more than one cable these days.
@@Fritzafella same
This is fantastic. Best combination of technical explanations in the context of history that I've come across yet. Am stashing it in my teaching arsenal.
Hey. I've never seen any of your videwos before, but that was really well thought out and put together. Thank you for the 22 minutes well spent.
Great editing, content, music and entertainment. Thank you!
Brilliant! Thanks for the time & effort you obviously put into this. :-)
Amazing video. Something I've always been interested in but havent had the time to research for myself, perfectly compiled. Thank you.
I worked at Bellcore which was split off Bell Labs in 1984, the year I started. Fiber optics was a game changer. Bandwidth was no longer the problem. I worked in a group that developed standards for fiber optic standards. We tested multi-mode, single-mode, different encoding standards, RTZ vs NRTZ for example. Analyzed the combination of synchronous vs. asynchronous signals, and the team I worked in, developed SONET which is the foundation of the big backbones of the Internet.
I am proud of my participation in building the future.
I would love to hear all about the numbers missing from the G.651, 652, 653 etc series!
This is great as a telecom tech / computer tech I really appreciate this documentary thank you!
That was genuinely a great video and a subject I didn't think I had any interest in, but apparently did.
I am in ave of how well made this documentary was. It must have taken a quite some time to compile all of this! You definitely got my sub, keep up the good work!
Fantastic documentary! It truly is amazing how far we've come in such a relatively short time.
Love the TVOntario Bits and Bytes shout-out. Great show.
What an awesome and interesting video! I'll be expecting to see this on trending some time soon. Great Job!
Loved watching this. Well done mate 👍🏽 keep up the good work.
You need to make more videos like this please. I was wanting to know everything you were saying. Plus it would be nice to have the nostalgic knowledge!
That's a lot of stuff I didn't know I wanted to know but ended up wanting to know. Thanks!
Very interesting video, I really enjoyed it, especially since it leads directly to the good ol' days of dial up Internet connections.
This was the most interesting thing I've seen this week. Thanks for the great video 👍
Fascinating! Great video! It's amazing how far we've come and where we're going!
Excellent video, thanks for the hard work!
This video is truly amazing! Loved it! :D
Amazing video! :D Very well researched, and your voice makes it easy/interesting to listen to. Keep up the good work! :)
I just stumbled upon this channel! I love these videos. Every video is a work of art! I love it. Keep up the great work.. Now back to my binge. So many videos to catch up on.
20:01 Amazing how miniscule the amount of data traffic is that is carried via satellites. Even the Google earth satellite images come from aircraft, as opposed to satellites.
More documentaries! You're amazing at making these
wow. Informative & excelenty excecuted. thank you for making these mini docs :) Kudos to the NN team!
very well documented and put together worthy of being shown in a history class very good job on the sources and editing my friend
Loved this. Great vid my man.
As a kid, I heard from my mom about "The Transatlantic Cable", which I took to mean they just laid down a single cable some time before I was born and that was that.
I really enjoyed the history lesson here. Well done! Kind regards from "the continent". 😉
Surf Wisely.
this is best video ive seen on youtube thank you so much i loved the video editing on this one
This is brilliant. Really interesting stuff well explained and with fitting & relevant old video clips. Great work
Hey, can I ask if you have forskin?
Amazing documentary. Your best video by far. It could easily pass in a TV channel
that was a lot of fun to watch. thanks for your work.
Excellent video, it's all about the presentation.
This was amazing. Watching this from the USA may not have been possible without those pioneers of technology!
Great video. I have been in telecom for 25+ years and help turn up TAT-14 in the early 2000's. Your explanations of multiplexing and WDM were straightforward and easy to understand for someone learning what is happening.
Excellent, bravo, well done! I enjoyed every second, thank you so much!
This was a really interesting watch despite knowing most of the history. Well put together and entertaining!
A wonderful historical presentation, I thoroughly enjoyed it!
with at least a couple of HUGE historical mistake: Volta for the battery and Meucci for the telegraph. not that tief of bell.
Liked and subbed. Thanks for great information! Well done sir!
I stumbled across the video and it started out with Faraday and the telegraph. It seemed a bit early to start, but you made this the foundation with telegraphs and moved smoothly into fiber optics.
These pioneers really took huge risks and came up with amazing yet crazy ideas, who knew the oceans had less deep parts that would allow for laying of cable across the channel
New subscriber. This is like a PBS-quality documentary.
That's a really good video man. Congratulations for the quality of this channel. Really appreciate that.
awesome documentary and watch, thanks for this, keep it up! :)
Despite a few minor errors I noted, this was amazingly well done. Bravo!!
Nice work, sir..
Have you been to the telegraph museum in Porthcurno? It was the first thing that came to mind as the video started to play...
Dude I love your channel! Always have something interesting to watch keep up the good work buddy!🤟
Genuinely fascinating! Keep up the good work :)
this is like your magnum opus of work man, good job!
I love the story of undersea coms. You presented that well :)
Very well done. And great choice of topic on top of that!
This is so well put together, and nothing like I expected
Talk about starting from first principles... I love it!
2 tin cans and piece of string,space phones tried to improve on them using copper wire fromold radio transforner ,pioneering days 1958. ha ha
Good girl Shark, biting the cable to make sure it holds up!
Also, gotta love that one of the ships were named the HMS Agamemnon - could say it was foreshadowing of what to come in history.
What about Agamemnon?
Yeah how did the illiad foreshadow modern life. Its gone over my head
Btw that shark was around 20:30
I didn't get the Agamemnon reference either despite just learning it's related to the Illiad
What an awsome video. I never thought about how this undersea lines are still a thing. Take it almost for granted ...
Its amazing how far we came in this short time here on earth ...
I dont recall seeing a more well researched video on youtube..........great job !!
Okay, I NEED to see more documentaries like this!
triumph of the nerds
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@@davidchapman3375 doubt
I kept falling into thinking I was watching some documentary on discovery channel. Such well made video, much wow.
Full on proper documentary. Wow!! Keep up the quality content
Best video. Very informative. To the point. Well done.
Wow! Great video!
Superb video. I don't know why, but thinking about those old abandoned telegraph cables laying there in dead silence gives me the chills. Spooky, somehow.
By the way, there's an extreme retro tech restoration project if I ever saw one.
Unfortunately they are probably in 100 or more pieces now. They weren't well shielded they weren't buried close to shore and they stopped repairing breaks in them over 50 years ago.
Modern practice is to pull up old optical fibre cables when they are no longer economically useful. In many cases they can then be laid somewhere else where the lower performance is still good enough. And pulling up the old cable will release the well-studied cable route for a new cable, which can result in a better-engineered system for a more reliable service - winners all round.
This is one amazing video. Thank you sir, the internet needs more of this
dang, another great channel i just stumbled on. down the rabbit hole we go. thanks
A fine watch, cheers.
The British Empire and her colonies including those in America are the foremost wonder of the world's civilized progress. Absolutely amazing to consider and appreciate.
Sadly, we are only allowed to remember the heinous things we did.
@@krashd Yes, mostly pushed by postmodern cultural marxists that hate western institutions and who've infected academia and the media with anti-western propaganda. Social engineering that the latest generation has all but been totally indoctrinated with. Progressives are anything but. They are rightly called Regressives..
@@noeuro Depends which "west" you're talking about. The west used to be wonderful, a truly good and godly society, which is why it prospered so greatly. But the west today is truly evil and I hate it with a passion. My loathing of the west does not come from the media, I hate the media and they promote the idea that the west is good.