@@David-Kynastoni don’t really see how it’s apples to oranges, there’s literally a screen on this chess board; it seems like the exact same thing to me only more expensive
@@alexwangombe8534no the haptics are different the entire sensory input and feel is different and even tho there is a screen it's literally just used for a clock and therefore you're not looking at it constantly. So eyestrain is also a factor since you're reducing screen time with this regardless of the clock display. The only thing that would be remotely close is lichess with the computer verbally announcing each move and that would still require one to be quick with visualizing the correct squares and leaves more room for error. To say this would be the same is simply interlectually dishonest
I would wait for the official release to get one of these. I funded the original Chessup board on kickstarter and the project was delayed almost a year. After it shipped late, the app crashed constantly, the connection to the board was glitchy, and there was little development from the team to fix. Then they removed the "training" feature that was "in work" on the Android version of the app, which was why I wanted one in the first place, with no updates on when they will release this feature what was originally promised in the kickstarter.
Yeah, after reading about these issues with the first board, I decided not to jump on the Kickstarter. The problem with Kickstarter rewards is that there are no refunds if you're not happy with the final product. For a $200+ electronic device, that's just not a risk I'm willing to take
It cannot be understated how hard it is to go from concept to production. Not that that's any consolation to you, or your wallet. But I think it's important to remember making stuff is hard.
@@RoryODonnellIsSoAwesome certainly! I agree. That's exactly why I'm very wary of backing Kickstarters. I have had some great experiences with Kickstarter projects, but I've had some bad ones too. I don't blame the creators of these projects--they tried their best and it just didn't work. But while the ChessUp 2 looks awesome and I think I'd love it, it's at a price where I'd rather wait and see if they succeed rather than bear a part of that innovation risk myself.
I have ChessUp 1 and for me it works really well. Yes, they have been slow implementing what was promised, like the training section. I asked them about that recently and they told me they are now working on it
@@JuliusBjornsson Oh. So they are collecting funds and working on a completely new product now whilst the original one still doesn't even have its basic functionality completed. That sounds terrible.
Touch move is the dumbest rule ever. There is no point having a clock AND touch move. If the person wants to touch the piece, then decide against it, they are running their own clock down. Of course, different if they put the piece down and then decided to move it back, but if you just touch the piece I don't see the big deal. Old out dated rule
Because you can touch a piece to try and gauge reactions, which can play out a lot in really intense positions. It may still be a bad rule, but that's the reasoning I've always heard for it and it seems valid.
I have a different board. I use it for playing bots and I can play over the board and save the game files to analyze later. Not have to manually type out moves. Super easy. It's "meh" for playing online games, and only possible for longer time controls for sure. But good practice tool and fun.
If someone made this exact same thing, but with the pieces being magnetised to the board in a way where the board could move the pieces on its own instead you moving them for the opponent would be absolutely incredible. And the only time you'd need to move the pieces is if a piece is obstructing the moving piece from sliding to its new position so you'd have to manually take it there. That wouldn't bother me
I think even auto knight moves can be engineered, but that would require the diameter of each chess piece to be at most 1/2 of the side length of the grid square, and players would need to adjust pieces precisely or the board should have automatic magnetic adjust.
That exists and has been sold commercially for years now. It's just much heavier and clumsy since the pieces have to be a bit more on the thin side to allow for certain knight moves. Also while they are getting better and faster the magnet is still slower then you just moving the piece by hand making time controls a bit awkward to play
How do you premove? :P I do think a very simple speaker to play a sound to indicate the end of the game would be nice, but I'm sure that can be accomplished with a visual queue with the light up squares. I thought the resignation was too subtle.
How does it feel? How do the pieces feel? Are they heavy enough or do they feel like cheap plastic pieces? With delivery it would be $300 with the bag so I'd like to know more about the feel of things. Thanks in advance
I want the chess up 2 board! Its so beautiful! 🤩♟️ it costs $291 when i want to preorder.. but that temporary/limited deal you're mentioning is already over right?
This is probably the coolest and most innovative piece of technology ive seen in the past decade. I can see this being great for use alongside streaming or VR, not to replace the digital board but as a nice supplement to it.
Yeah, i agree, but there is so many cases that would make it hard, like moving a Knight from g1 to f3 in an opening, would have to move a Pawn out of the way first, then move the Knight, then move the Pawn back to it's original position, many other structures that would require moving secondary pieces away first to be able to move the intended one, could be done but how much time would that waste in a 3m blitz?
I could imagine a board that scoots the pieces out of the way just enough to let the knight squeeze through. Much more complicated than this board though.
I have the original ChessUp, and it's so much fun to play on, especially since I actually play better OTB than I do online. Like a good 200 elo better. Definitely a worthwhile purchase IMO.
I know this is late but I play so much better OTB than online. You said it’s worthwhile, how easy is the setup and finding online matches? I really want to get the original chess up I’m still on the fence about it
@@Scrumdawgrizzillionaire Is it cheating to look at a chess puzzle's solution if you're stuck? What about playing an already played game against a chess engine to explore additional lines? I'm not proposing to make that feature available in championships :))
Love my ChessUp, adding the display is a massive help! Not sold on it being worth upgrading though. Folks wanting the pieces to move: knights and casteling make that impractical and the few boards who have tried have all been a hot mess of mechanical/electrical issues.
TH-cam now recommends this video, after the kickstarter deadline. Would be nice to see these videos BEFORE, then we could order them at the kickstarter price.
Is the first one working probably now? When I got it, it wasn't yet and it has been collecting dust for over a year now.. Would love to start using my $600 board as intented
I write lefty, but play sports righty. When it comes to chess, I don't mind moving with either hand. Given the set up in this video it was more comfortable to move and gesture with my left hand
This looks like a disadvantage against players who are playing on a virtual chess board but a fun experience if both players have this board. Imagine having to move your pieces and your enemies pieces super fast.
I mean its a disadvantage in fast time controls but its nice you dont have to stare at a screen and its also good to practice OTB even if you cant play with friends/family
4:00 how does it know your hand is still on the piece? Also what would happen if you were in an online game, and you randomly move pieces around? Does it tell you to adjust back, and just forfeits if you don’t?
OOoh that looks nice. Looks much better than the previous one. I missed the kickstarter but i might get one when it's released :) Thanks for the video !
When playing online matches, how about the pieces of the your opponent becoming completely LED on the squares so you don't have to move their pieces yourself?
There are already boards available with that function like Square Off and the Phantom. On KIckstarter there’s also Go Chess and I’m pretty sure Chessnut will be releasing one soon
it's pretty inconvenient that you need to use your own time to make your opponents move on the board, but this is still a really cool product and definitely something I would consume if I had the disposable income.
@@aro327 That would be a good option to include. I assume the main reason to get one of these would be to try to make online chess more like an "over the board" experience and maybe removing the opponent's pieces would detract from that a bit.
@@classonbread5757 That is hardly engineering challenge of the century. One or both pawns could be slightly moved to make room for the knight. The knight could be shaped so that it easily fits between the pawns. The like poles of the magnets could be used to make the knight jump over the pawns. There is three possible solutions that took me about two seconds to think of.
How does the board know if I released my hand from the piece? If it just pressure then what if I place it but don’t apply pressure? Would it still read the move despite not removing my hand?
The pieces are likely capacitive so they register a signal when your hand is on them, and they also probably have an NFC or RFID chip that lets the piece talk to the board. It's a pretty cool combination of tech, but none of it likely to be actual pressure sensors: that type of kit isn't miniaturized to the extent electronic signal manipulation is.
Does that mean you will be able to use the a.i while playing on the board showing the best moves, while playing online? There are like 6 different levels something..
Brilliant board for playing with kids and beginners, when you touch a piece it not only highlights the moves but also colour codes them as good, meh, and bad.
@@NeunEinsermake the board way thicker to hide a magnetizer machine that makes the magnets much stronger so that they can flip the magnet and launch the knight before flipping the magnet back around to bring it to the square. same thing with captures, just launch the piece or pawn before moving the piece or pawn there
Ok this is so fckin cool, ive been gettin back into chess after not playin since i was a kid an i like over the board way more bein able to do both is such a great adishion to the game
“Just wish I could’ve seen my opponent suffer.” 😂
A dark side to Eric we didn't know existed.
All my opponents think that.
*in the calmest tone possible hahaha
Board is great for people doing OTB prep, because as you mentioned, vision is important in that case.
you could do the same with a regular chess set and a phone
@@alexwangombe8534 Paying more to be lazy is my jam tho
@@alexwangombe8534 let people enjoy things
@@David-Kynastoni don’t really see how it’s apples to oranges, there’s literally a screen on this chess board; it seems like the exact same thing to me only more expensive
@@alexwangombe8534no the haptics are different the entire sensory input and feel is different
and even tho there is a screen it's literally just used for a clock and therefore you're not looking at it constantly. So eyestrain is also a factor since you're reducing screen time with this regardless of the clock display.
The only thing that would be remotely close is lichess with the computer verbally announcing each move and that would still require one to be quick with visualizing the correct squares and leaves more room for error.
To say this would be the same is simply interlectually dishonest
Wake up babe chess 2 just dropped
November
Let me sleep!
Stolen from chess asmr
Not stolen, just referencing.
@@randomincguylol3647 lmao it’s not popular enough to be a reference it’s just stolen
3:20 bro really just un-adjusted white bishop
Real
I would wait for the official release to get one of these. I funded the original Chessup board on kickstarter and the project was delayed almost a year. After it shipped late, the app crashed constantly, the connection to the board was glitchy, and there was little development from the team to fix. Then they removed the "training" feature that was "in work" on the Android version of the app, which was why I wanted one in the first place, with no updates on when they will release this feature what was originally promised in the kickstarter.
Yeah, after reading about these issues with the first board, I decided not to jump on the Kickstarter. The problem with Kickstarter rewards is that there are no refunds if you're not happy with the final product. For a $200+ electronic device, that's just not a risk I'm willing to take
It cannot be understated how hard it is to go from concept to production. Not that that's any consolation to you, or your wallet. But I think it's important to remember making stuff is hard.
@@RoryODonnellIsSoAwesome certainly! I agree. That's exactly why I'm very wary of backing Kickstarters. I have had some great experiences with Kickstarter projects, but I've had some bad ones too. I don't blame the creators of these projects--they tried their best and it just didn't work. But while the ChessUp 2 looks awesome and I think I'd love it, it's at a price where I'd rather wait and see if they succeed rather than bear a part of that innovation risk myself.
I have ChessUp 1 and for me it works really well. Yes, they have been slow implementing what was promised, like the training section. I asked them about that recently and they told me they are now working on it
@@JuliusBjornsson Oh. So they are collecting funds and working on a completely new product now whilst the original one still doesn't even have its basic functionality completed. That sounds terrible.
8:41 touch the queen
💀
That one security guard: Don't touch!
Im reporting sexual harrassment xD
Ayo, slow down
Touch move is the dumbest rule ever. There is no point having a clock AND touch move. If the person wants to touch the piece, then decide against it, they are running their own clock down. Of course, different if they put the piece down and then decided to move it back, but if you just touch the piece I don't see the big deal. Old out dated rule
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Because you can touch a piece to try and gauge reactions, which can play out a lot in really intense positions. It may still be a bad rule, but that's the reasoning I've always heard for it and it seems valid.
It sucks that you use your time on the clock to move their pieces.
If you’re playing as black will the display flip so you can read it?
his queen was trapped 😭😭
Qe4 ? (loose a knight)
@@wismasimthen you get mated
Edit: Rg1+, Bg7, Qe6+, Kf8, Qf7#.
You can ofcourse stall a bit by sacking some pieces, but it leads to quite a quick mate
@@kroepoek3764 Would there not be a bishop on g7 blocking the queen when you play Qf7?
Like after Qf7 why not Rg1?
@@kroepoek3764 Qe6+, Kh7
@@kroepoek3764 Qe6+ Kh7
I have a different board. I use it for playing bots and I can play over the board and save the game files to analyze later. Not have to manually type out moves. Super easy.
It's "meh" for playing online games, and only possible for longer time controls for sure. But good practice tool and fun.
Oh nice, whats the name of that board? Ive been looking into something more auto
This actually looks a lot cooler than I was expecting when I heard this was announced
6:17 how cool is that :D thats a nice set for beginners
If someone made this exact same thing, but with the pieces being magnetised to the board in a way where the board could move the pieces on its own instead you moving them for the opponent would be absolutely incredible.
And the only time you'd need to move the pieces is if a piece is obstructing the moving piece from sliding to its new position so you'd have to manually take it there. That wouldn't bother me
I think even auto knight moves can be engineered, but that would require the diameter of each chess piece to be at most 1/2 of the side length of the grid square, and players would need to adjust pieces precisely or the board should have automatic magnetic adjust.
So true
Such things have been around since the 1980s.
Such boards already exist. Brand square off
That exists and has been sold commercially for years now. It's just much heavier and clumsy since the pieces have to be a bit more on the thin side to allow for certain knight moves.
Also while they are getting better and faster the magnet is still slower then you just moving the piece by hand making time controls a bit awkward to play
bro I thought the chess pieces were gonna move themselves. 💀
i thought maybe they can someday if there's motors underneath or something
You can play half-blindfold by not moving your opponent's pieces and just remembering the moves
How do you premove? :P
I do think a very simple speaker to play a sound to indicate the end of the game would be nice, but I'm sure that can be accomplished with a visual queue with the light up squares. I thought the resignation was too subtle.
No pre-moves, will be much better for blitz with increment + rapid rather than bullet. Definitely stick to digital online if you play bullet.
@@guaranagaucho3071 Haha, I meant the premove comment as a bit of a joke.
If this would support Lichess it would be an instant buy!
It does
Yea it does
It supports it. Most things due since they have a very open API.
This was SO COOL. Just got one using your link, you should do more of this style video, love over the board games.
How does it feel? How do the pieces feel? Are they heavy enough or do they feel like cheap plastic pieces?
With delivery it would be $300 with the bag so I'd like to know more about the feel of things.
Thanks in advance
Great deal to get it for $199 instead of $299.
I want the chess up 2 board! Its so beautiful! 🤩♟️ it costs $291 when i want to preorder.. but that temporary/limited deal you're mentioning is already over right?
This is probably the coolest and most innovative piece of technology ive seen in the past decade.
I can see this being great for use alongside streaming or VR, not to replace the digital board but as a nice supplement to it.
imagine u having to move his pieces as well in the las 10 seconds where y'all fight over time
It’s great but these boards are not it until they figure out a way to move the pieces
Yeah, i agree, but there is so many cases that would make it hard, like moving a Knight from g1 to f3 in an opening, would have to move a Pawn out of the way first, then move the Knight, then move the Pawn back to it's original position, many other structures that would require moving secondary pieces away first to be able to move the intended one, could be done but how much time would that waste in a 3m blitz?
I could imagine a board that scoots the pieces out of the way just enough to let the knight squeeze through. Much more complicated than this board though.
How though? How would it jump the knight? Or capture pieces? Lol
@@Jeppelelle Not to mention piece captures. You want those moved for you as well?
Do you guys realize that Square Off exists?
I have the original ChessUp, and it's so much fun to play on, especially since I actually play better OTB than I do online. Like a good 200 elo better.
Definitely a worthwhile purchase IMO.
I know this is late but I play so much better OTB than online. You said it’s worthwhile, how easy is the setup and finding online matches? I really want to get the original chess up I’m still on the fence about it
3:16 He do be j'adoube ing
I wonder what's gonna happen when you make an illegal move on the board
Looks very nice for a prototype. I'm impressed.
The killer feature(at least for me) would be showing my threatened pieces (a count would be even nicer!)
Would that be considered cheating though? To have a program showing you all your threatened pieces?
@@Scrumdawgrizzillionaire Is it cheating to look at a chess puzzle's solution if you're stuck?
What about playing an already played game against a chess engine to explore additional lines?
I'm not proposing to make that feature available in championships :))
This set up is amazing
Awesome, this looks like what I wished the chess up 1 would have been!
Nice clean design, screen, no phone required.
Will buy one!
Love my ChessUp, adding the display is a massive help! Not sold on it being worth upgrading though. Folks wanting the pieces to move: knights and casteling make that impractical and the few boards who have tried have all been a hot mess of mechanical/electrical issues.
TH-cam now recommends this video, after the kickstarter deadline. Would be nice to see these videos BEFORE, then we could order them at the kickstarter price.
Agreed… hopefully there will be another promotion
It'll be interesting if this gets to a time scramble, because we have to move the opponents pieces as well 😅
Can you premove? I assume time scrambles are a pain on this...
What would you do if you make 3+ queens?
we have chess 2 before GTA 6
Are the pieces weighty? Does the board feel solidly made?
thank you showing this new board. i was interested in it.
Is the first one working probably now? When I got it, it wasn't yet and it has been collecting dust for over a year now.. Would love to start using my $600 board as intented
Saw a small glitch in black's timer at 2:40 going from 9m17s to 9m14s. Is it just lag?
what happens if u do an illegal move on it?
can you pre-move if there's no piece occupying the pre-move square?
Great video! This board rules
Are you naturally left-handed? I just noticed how much gesturing you do, and the piece movements seem natural with the left.
I write lefty, but play sports righty. When it comes to chess, I don't mind moving with either hand. Given the set up in this video it was more comfortable to move and gesture with my left hand
@@eric-rosenlefty unite!
@@eric-rosen as my mom used to tell me for doing the same: you're ambiconfused
Cool board. How does the analytics and game review work?
What if you make a different move than what your opponent's move marking show?
You know they should make it where a monitor is set up across from you and integrate it with a webcam.
This Is cool but kinda bad for Blitz, you should be making your move and not losing time to move his piece aswell. But classical would be fun on this.
Looks amazing but I want to know what the size is or if there are different sizes?
You had Queen to g6 mate move for a long time :) The board is cool!
This looks like a disadvantage against players who are playing on a virtual chess board but a fun experience if both players have this board. Imagine having to move your pieces and your enemies pieces super fast.
I mean its a disadvantage in fast time controls but its nice you dont have to stare at a screen and its also good to practice OTB even if you cant play with friends/family
I wonder how you would play on the board on time scramble
Can we switch off the lighting up of the leds? when u touch the pieces?
The chessnut looks higher quality but it doesnt have the timer screen
Could be nicer if the opponents pieces were moving with magnetized surface on their own... but cool project
4:00 how does it know your hand is still on the piece? Also what would happen if you were in an online game, and you randomly move pieces around? Does it tell you to adjust back, and just forfeits if you don’t?
It probably measures electrical capacitance, similar to a stackmat timer
Can you underpromote to a knight a rook or a bishop like you can on chessup 1
its cool but i really want the oppponents pieces to move automatically so will wait until a future model with that feature
I presume it knows you are touching a peice the same way touch screens work. Capacitive touch technology which detects your body's electric current.
thanks for the board preview :)
he did not realise the queen was trapped at the end!
Can you try to make a chessup 2 review or feature overview. It would be helpful.
Does it work with lichess also? I play friends on both websites.
How does the board handle castling? couldnt really tell when he did it
OOoh that looks nice. Looks much better than the previous one. I missed the kickstarter but i might get one when it's released :) Thanks for the video !
Kickstart still active
I go see no shipping is there 😢
suitable for people who don't have friends too... and are alone
Brave of you. It it fails a lot of people will be angry at you
When playing online matches, how about the pieces of the your opponent becoming completely LED on the squares so you don't have to move their pieces yourself?
Nice game. That was actually pretty fun to watch. Impressive board!
Wait, before the Black Queen moved to G2, why didn't you go for Queen to G6? Would that not have been checkmate? No way for the king to leave
Feels like chess tech is getting closer and closer to the Harry Potter chessboard where pieces move automagically
There are already boards available with that function like Square Off and the Phantom. On KIckstarter there’s also Go Chess and I’m pretty sure Chessnut will be releasing one soon
it's pretty inconvenient that you need to use your own time to make your opponents move on the board, but this is still a really cool product and definitely something I would consume if I had the disposable income.
Did bro just castle when he have mate in 2 XD
So while you make moves for your opponent, your time is running? Hmm
Very cool chess board but if this ships in November how do you have one now ???
These boards should make the opposition moves automatically. Surely it wouldn't be too hard to have some kind of magnetic system.
Or just get rid of the opponent pieces and display it directly on the board.
@@aro327 That would be a good option to include.
I assume the main reason to get one of these would be to try to make online chess more like an "over the board" experience and maybe removing the opponent's pieces would detract from that a bit.
@@spindoctor6385 at least have it as an option.
Good luck with 1. Nf3
@@classonbread5757 That is hardly engineering challenge of the century. One or both pawns could be slightly moved to make room for the knight. The knight could be shaped so that it easily fits between the pawns. The like poles of the magnets could be used to make the knight jump over the pawns. There is three possible solutions that took me about two seconds to think of.
What happen if you your opponnent make a move and you move the wrong piece to a wrong space?
My guess would be, that it won't register the move and your time will fly until you make a legal one.
How does the board know if I released my hand from the piece? If it just pressure then what if I place it but don’t apply pressure? Would it still read the move despite not removing my hand?
The pieces are likely capacitive so they register a signal when your hand is on them, and they also probably have an NFC or RFID chip that lets the piece talk to the board.
It's a pretty cool combination of tech, but none of it likely to be actual pressure sensors: that type of kit isn't miniaturized to the extent electronic signal manipulation is.
is it weird that i've only ever played online chess before so I have basically zero pattern recognition when looking at real pieces?
Does that mean you will be able to use the a.i while playing on the board showing the best moves, while playing online?
There are like 6 different levels something..
How would you move both yours and opponent's figures during a zeitnot?
Brilliant board for playing with kids and beginners, when you touch a piece it not only highlights the moves but also colour codes them as good, meh, and bad.
You should of moved the castle to black and then castle forcing the queen to take the move
Now if they could just make this magnetic so that the pieces move by themselves, that would be epic.
How would that work for knights and captures?
@@NeunEinsermake the board way thicker to hide a magnetizer machine that makes the magnets much stronger so that they can flip the magnet and launch the knight before flipping the magnet back around to bring it to the square. same thing with captures, just launch the piece or pawn before moving the piece or pawn there
@@NeunEinser such boards are already there..
these already exist but they're thousands of dollars
The Technology exists already. There is a board that comes in couples to play otb long distance. The opponent pieces move by themselves
I wonder how this will be played in a blitz when opponents have seconds left
Bullet 💀
this is my new dream board, i prefer playing on an actual board than online
Can you make more videos with it. It is a little bit of a different experience
I like it, the only thing I would want different is nicer pieces, I haven’t played in an ordinary set in 35 years, lol
In gonna be on hunger strike until the next speed run video is posted 😂
that's a cool little doodad.
even as a "once a year" player, it'd be kinda cool to have, regardless.
I dont know how he's playing but he does
time trouble would suck on this, gotta eat up your time moving the ops pieces
Ok this is so fckin cool, ive been gettin back into chess after not playin since i was a kid an i like over the board way more bein able to do both is such a great adishion to the game
wasn't there a smart board where the pieces move on their own ? lol I swear i saw a youtube ad for that.......
if this was around 150 it would sell
it's way too expensive even at the kickstarter promo price
9:08 you shouldn't castle queen e6 check , queen f7 checkmate
Nope, Qe6 Kh7, no mate 😢
I guess you didn’t need to castle. I guess there's mate in 2.
Wait, wait. White queen to e6, black king to move anywhere is going to be mated by the queen's f7, right? Am I missing something?
Oh I forgot there's a bishop 🤣