These BUDGET Bourbons CRUSHED Weller 12 In A Blind
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I love yalls father/son dynamic. As an expecting father, I can only hope to cultivate a relationship with my son like the one you all have!
It's fun. My son (he was 22/23 at the time) got me into Whiskey. Since then we did a Kentucky trip and countless other distillery visits in WA, OR, WI, CO. We are looking forward to planning a Scotland / Ireland trip.
My son and I are the same ages as these to and it is a good time e when we do our tastings. Havi g a son is very special
My son has acid reflux so he doesn't drink bourbon. He likes it, but he can't drink it.
Lots of youtube shows on this topic but this one’s special for the dynamic you cited.
From hemoglobin to "Richter's" sour-mash to Thanksgiving side dish discussion, where else can you get these kinds of discussions on a bourbon blind video. Love it lol. Keep up the great content guys
Rock in the croc😂
Moms perfume
Honeysuckle grows in a vine, used a lot for ground cover. Smells amazing, honeysuckle blossoms on a cool night is one of my favorite smells in the world.
Love the smell but it'll take over fast if you don't keep it trimmed.
Trenton killed it. This was a great example of preference over hype. Well done to the both of you!
In the time I've been watching and listening to you guys, I'm so much happier with my bourbon experience, I no longer feel like I'm blindly guessing where to put my hard earned dollars when I want to expand my new picks, your honest approach will become the standard for bourbon review, the other reviewers out there have become a hyped up waste of time in my book. Keep up the solid work and making it fun!
It is a good thing that Kurt's spouse is receptive to his affliction for good Bourbon. Allowing for the Basement Bar and probably filling in as lead camera operator provides us all a great past time of keeping up with this dynamic family relationship. You are all saving me a lot of money when it comes to my Bourbon selection.
I've always loved the regular Maker's Mark, it's always been my favorite budget bourbon.
Me too, but I don’t think of it as “budget”.
Me too, it's my regular sipper.
I can see that. I’m not a big Makers fan, but OF100 is one of my top shelfers. It consistently provides a fantastic pour for the money. BTW, I also really enjoy 90-100 proof bourbons.
I think that's what happens when you leave a bourbon open for 3 years. They can go bad.
I routinely prefer WT 101 and OF 100 to anything costing less than $50. Price is rarely a sign of quality. Good video, thanks.
Kurt's mashed potato, green bean casserole and Franks layer cake is on point! Have loved this combo for years!
Gonna need to try this asap. Probably Thanksgiving, like when are the other times that we get green bean casserole?
Ok, I now call Trenton's palate into question...greeenbean casserole is trash??!! 😁
It is trash
It is, what you're tasting is nostalgia, not flavor
You have to make a homemade version or it sucks lol
Dumpster fire trash
Yeah it's gross
To me you just can’t go wrong with wild turkey rare. Breed or 101 for the price point it’s so good and never does you wrong.
I tried Turkey 101 yrs ago, wasn't a big fan. A couple months ago I decided to give Rare Breed a try and it was terrible, reminded me of bland unseasoned food
I think the allocated Michters you saw for $100 was the Toasted Sour Mash, not the regular Sour Mash. The TSM is a Limited Edition and is about $100 msrp.
Any Michters at the proof they offer for the price point is generally scammie to me. Even the 10 year that’s almost $150 MSRP, being 92 proof is criminal at that price. I liked the Michter’s Toasted Rye but I’d never pay the type of money asked for it
I like seeing a hyped-up bourbon in a blind with others. I've had the opportunity to try a good number of them since bars in my area seem to have some success at keeping them in stock. In general, I find that they are good, but I don't get the sense that they are anything special when compared to others that are a lot more readily available. Not too long ago, I compared Blanton's to Four Roses single barrel, and I found that both were good, but Four Roses was the easy winner - I found greater complexity in Four Roses, and the flavor profile was more in line with my preferences. I've tried Weller 12-year and Van Winkle 12-year Lot B. In both cases, I thought they were good, but they were stylistically unremarkable. They weren't delivering anything special or unique. They were good quality, classic style bourbons - nothing more, and nothing less. It would be hard for me to justify paying more than $80 or so for either one since the typical 12-year 46%, non-chill filtered Scotch has more interesting and complex flavors, and those usually go for around $70. When I see them marked up to hundreds or thousands of dollars, I don't know whether to laugh or choke. The hype has been feeding off itself in a positive feedback loop, and it is absurdly unjustified. Fortunately, there are good alternatives. The Maker's Mark and Old Forester product lines are great options, and their core products are reasonably priced and easy to find. A bottle of Old Forester 1897 bottled in bond is sitting in my collection, and I'm getting plenty of enjoyment out of that bottle.
Great take other than the Four Roses ( just personally hate the stuff). So many great options out there that are easy to find and less than bank-breaking prices.
Back in the day Makers was considered high end bourbon. Liked it 40 ,years ago and it is still my day to day bourbon.
Old Forester has become one of my go-tos, especially the 1910. Would love to know what you guys think of the Hard Truth Sweet Mash Rye Single Barrel.
I love the idea for this blind. It kind of confirms something I've been feeling for awhile which is that there are plenty of great shelf bottles and that 'hunting' isn't really worth the time and effort or $.
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Like sands thru the hour glass, and the different subjects that can be discussed at the SLB, these are the days of our lives! Nose cuts, gravy, casseroles, mom's perfume...
Not a huge fan of Weller 12 year and price don't help either, but I do use it exclusively to make poor mans pappy in that setting it is excellent. And Blanton's was the biggest let down ,even got a second bottle with a different date still not that impressive. Ill take old forested 1920 or wild turkey rear bread over anything buffalo trace any day.
I did that too. It was enjoyable. Trying to remember...is it 2 parts 107 to 1 part 12?
I should probably make some just to make some room in my cabinet for juice I really like.
@TheMarcopix The common "recipe" for Poor Man's Pappy is three parts Weller Antique 107 and two parts Weller 12 Year. It's actually pretty good but of course it's not really a replacement for Pappy.
@@JonBlankman very true but it's better than nothing or the price of your first born.
maker’s mark will win many blind taste tests. it’s rock solid delicious. my uncle jack was so right many years ago.
My mind is also like a steel trap… just the hinge is a little rusty 😂
Always love Trentons shenanigans in these videos😂
I love Maker's Mark. That's what started my bourbon journey.🥃
Big Maker's fan here. Weller 12 is my favorite of the Weller line up, BUT it makes me so happy that Maker's won. I'll have to do my own blind. Great video! Cheers!
I’m a huge fan of Makers Mark. It is just a good all around bourbon.
Describing Weller 12 as a " one noter "... Absolutely... The same with the Antique and the Special Reserve,,, both of those I have always described as one trick ponies... No complexity at all. Those three Wellers are over hyped in my opinion. I can't comment on the Full Proof or the William Weller LaRue, I've never seen one, let alone tasted one...
How could anyone trust the palate of a guy that hates pumpkin pie, gravy, and casseroles? ...so weird.
Weller is so overhyped. It’s just not that good. Same with Pappy . Once you try them you realize they just aren’t worth the hunt. I’ve got most of them but it’s just not my thing. This being said everyone has a different pallet.
I'm glad that you clarified that when we were reading "Richter's", it was implying Michter's. I was spun around there for a while. Great lineup! Great show, irregardless of the green bean casserole! Cheers!
Lol…old granny perfume. 😂 it would help if Weller 12 Year was higher proof. 🥃 Honeysuckle is a shrub.
Last week I did a blind with Buffalo Trace, Blantons, Eagle Rare, and EH Taylor, bottled in bond. At the end they threw in a Benchmark full proof. Nobody knew what we were tasting except for me. Interestingly, EHT came out number one for everyone. Blantons came in third or last. When I threw in the benchmark, everyone put that as number two. Interesting when hype does not influence your taste buds. By the way, your banter is getting goofier all the time. Reminds me of me and my son.
EHT to me is better than the over hyped stuff. And I've long thought Eagle Rare is better than Blantons
Weller 12 is the worst bourbon I've ever paid over $100 for. Like the Antique and Full Proof.
Great video guys! Love the blinds….I learn a lot from these and compare your reactions with what I think of each choice (or at least the one’s I have had).
I hunted for EC Toasted Barrel for awhile and was disappointed. OF 1910 is better imo and much easier to find
As a lifelong native Hoosier, I propose we strip Trenton of his native Hoosier status for besmirching the glorious dish that is green been casserole.
I recently got into bourbon starting out with Maker's Mark. I keep trying different budget bourbons to see what else is out there and very few I've liked as much as Maker's. I keep seeing so much hate for it so it keeps wondering if I'm missing out on something so much better out there.
I’m the same way with regular Knob Creek. I prefer the 100 proof punch and that it’s available everywhere for an affordable price.
I've thought Weller 12 has been overrated for a number of years. My friends and I have done a number of blind tests and Weller 12 has never come out on top - not once.
Not a single person on the planet you doesn’t like the potato casserole with cornflakes on top
As someone else commented, I'll take a 12 year old Scotch for $50 - $70 over a 12 year bourbon at crazy prices all day, every day and not miss a thing.
Kurt the dad has such a good energy! I’m so glad to be here watching his presence from time to time.
I like that you guys are from Indiana. "Hoopla" is hoosier "AF"
To Trenton's point, I was STUNNED that I liked regular Woodford better than Woodford Masters 18 historic barrel entry proof in a blind. Stunned!!!
I like Weller SR because I can find it occasionally at retail. It's decent at retail. Not falling for the hype of 12. I have a bottle and it's....ok. OF100 is solid and I like MMark. Not a big "Richter" fan either. 😄
i have had weller 12 once at a restaurant.. i left the glass half full when i left and i paid a lot of money for the pour..
If someone doesn't like gravy they can't be trusted. Gotta keep an eye on those ppl
I really like your videos, and watch them as often as possible, but I disagree with your choice on this taste test. I have yet to sip or drink a whiskey better in taste or as smooth as Weller 12 years old. Keep up the good work.
IMO I think of “low proof” as 40-43%, mid proof more like 45-50% and high proof as 57-60+%. Personally I feel mid proof is a nice sweet spot. Lots of flavor and approachable for many.
After working for a Bloodcenter for 14 yrs I need to nose some of that hemoglobin juice. 😅
I haven’t had regular Maker’s in a long time, but I truly enjoy the OF 100
You guys absolutely Crack us up ! ! But I do agree... GRAVY makes everything better. ;-)
Blind taste always amuse. Labels can really affect peoples opinion on things at times.
Hemoglobin lmao
My biggest disappointment was Castle & Key Bourbon. I did the tour of the distillery and the grounds are just so amazing. If you are ever in the area, you should really stop over there. Botanical gardens, pool shaped in a key, Live Music on Wednesdays in summer time, its just really nice. The Bourbon... I picked up in 2022, 100 bottles sold per day, only on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Stood in line on a Saturday morning, got my one bottle and took it home. Man, just not good. The alcohol vapors and bitter taste just don't do it for me. I wonder if they age it for another 3-5+yrs would it be better? I think its only aged 4yrs. My new constants are Makers Mark 46, Woodford Reserve Double Oak, and Angels Envy Port finished. I can get all three of those anywhere now and they are just so good by themselves or even as a mixer. I'm a big fan of that Weller 12 but I think I'm with Kurt, I like the WSR and WOA better.
I’ve despised every makers bottle I’ve ever had. Until my son bought me a MM 46 French Oaked cask strength for Father’s Day. I’m impressed. So much so that I went and found me a second bottle.
It bugs me now that the 46 is starting to get hyped and in turn, scarce. Can't even find it at the moment. Used to be everywhere.
I really enjoyed the MM 46 French cask. I've had 3 now.
@@JerboFotius I never see the 46CS, wish I could because I like MM.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 same
Richter's?
I'd like to see budget "wheaters" against the Weller 12. There's a lot of good wheaters out there better IMO.
IMHO…Blanton’s is one of the Unicorns that isn’t as good as the chase. It is cool to find and have, but there are better sips out there. Great blind tasting today!
OF 1910 way over Blantons..
And there is NOTHING wrong with liking Makers Mark. It's what I cut my teeth on, when I got a "real job'. Back in the day, if you had a bottle of Makers Mark...you were class! Basic Makers Mark isn't my jam any longer but Maker's Cask Strength and even the 101 are really quite good. Maker's is also very CONSISTENT. That matters.
I've moved on from regular Maker's Mark, which is brighter and more metallic than I like these days, but the 46 is good (I've not had any of their other expressions). It's not for everyone, but it's *not* bad bourbon. 🙂
Awesome video boys!! From hemoglobin to “Richter’s”…and even some Thanksgiving trash talk….love this channel! Cheers!
Gravy definitely is a food group! Great vid. One of my best friends lives by the Weller line, I personally am not a fan. I can think of 6 bottles I'd rather have. Glad they make something for every palate !
That’s really funny. Me and a buddy just did a reg makers mark, 101, and cask strength and the most enjoyable (that night) for both of us was regular mm. Very cool show. Thanks!
Come for the reviews. Stay to find out that Trenton would not get so many nose bleeds if he could just keep his finger out of there.
😂😂😂😂
Wonder if that Weller 12 was flat due to the low level in bottle plus 3+ years since opened?! Great video and channel!!
I'd probably pick'em that order too -- Weller 12 tastes so woody to me & Makers is my go to pour (I always have that ready for my cigar time) Old Forester 100 feels like a sleeper but I dig it. Thanks for all the shenanigans in between sips too.
Richter's? Did Trenton mean Michter's? LOL
Hahahhaaaha old forester and makers mark over Weller 12?This must be clickbate.
The sad part is that some will take both of these over Wellers 12 and I'm one of them.
You can't drink the label, the advertising budget, or the price tag. Diminishing returns and individual tastes are real. Be yourself and drink what you like that fits your budget. Thanks for the entertaining and informative videos.
Honey suckle is a woody vine
I'm so glad to see that Weller 12 didn't do so well. I only have Special Reserve, Antique 107, and Fullproof. I've been looking for Weller 12, but I refused to pay secondary market prices. I don't think I'll look for Single Barrel or the CYPB. I pass on that old forester al the time. I may need to get it.
Can you give me the order best to worse between Old Forester 100, Ezra Brooks 99, and Evan Williams 90 proof.
The OF100 is just ok for me. $25 is a good price but for 100 proof it’s real alcohol forward and drinks higher than it’s proof.
@@Bushy556even William's is my goto...cannot beat the price for what you get...i love these 2 on their reviews...but,everyone's taste is differant...I've had alot of what they rate as good or garbage.....my views are differant most of the time...to each his own...Carmel's,toffee,chard oak,chocolate,green bean casserole?(really?)...my pallet sees none of that...my personal taste basically comes to smoothness and harshness...1792,woodford are great to me...knob creek 9 and 12....better than 15 and 18 to me...again none is right or wrong just ones pallet...I can tell you this I will not turn down trying any of them.
@@Bushy556 I'm finding out that I like higher proof stuff. That's the only reason I have not gotten the Evan Williams. I got the EW BiB instead. I have the Ezra Brooks Cask Strength and really like it. I do like 1920. I've 1910 and the 86 proof but have not opened them.
Trenton, the michters sour mash for $100 limit 1 per person was probably the toasted. It looks exactly the same, so you may not have noticed it was the toasted
If you don't like gravy...there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with you. Giblet. Red-Eye. Sausage...just...MORE GRAVY!!!1111!
No surprise from me! Maker's has always been a favorite.. Nothing wrong with OF100 either.
My favorite whiskeys I've ever had have been from Makers and OF. Thankfully they are not likely to ever be hyped out of existence
I’ve never had Weller 12 but I have had Weller Special Reserve and I would take regular old Makers Mark over it any day of the week.
Reminds me of my old pop (RIP). He would take a pork chop or chicken fried steak and pile mashed potatoes on it, smother the whole thing with gravy and top it off with cream style corn. He thought it was the food of the gods!
Also, love me some Old Forester 100, great stuff!
How I wish I could train my taste buds and palate to adapt to samples of ANYTHING without clearing them in some way, often using a bread product or crackers. It takes talent to do that! I'm the kind who needs to re-boot my taste buds and palate between samples something--especially similar products. If you're tasting samples of "Cheeses," it wouldn't be necessary with a variety. It would be if you're sampling a collection of Bries, or Muensters. Hard for me to pick up subtleties and undertones with distilled spirits without a sensory reset. Nice job, you two!
The first two tastings crack me up. The regular Forester 100 easily beat Weller. A store about 30 minutes from you has both. Their Weller is $900. The Forester is maybe $40ish.
They also have one Elmer T and a Rockhill Farms for maybe $400 each. I’ll pass
Yes thanks for passing on all of it and not falling into Taterism.. 👍👍
Weller 12 had a beautiful nose, which hints at the greatness that bourbon line is capable of (ORVW 10/12, Pappy 15). It's under-proofed. IMO, perfect sipping-whiskey proofing should have the nose be in line with the palate. That proofing isn't 80 and it ain't cask strength (though I love the latter). Glad I only paid $28 for the W12 before the world went insane. I can only laugh at the secondary market prices. Of the Weller's, I prefer the Antique at 107P.
After starting with Maker's Mark and venturing away for a decade, I've come back to it and can really appreciate it now. And it doesn't hurt the distillery has a genuine history (some of it puffed up, I'm sure) and story with interesting, colorful characters. My favorite of theirs is the regular cask strength, though I've met so many people that prefer the 101.
OF100 is a great standby. Old Forester is the backbone of Woodford Reserve and they're both great bourbons. Though, IMO, WR is under-proofed at 90.1. Maybe I should proof it up a bit with OF....
Kurt is right about the gravy! Let’s not forget the jelled cranberry sauce! I grabbed a bottle of the Sour Mash after Kurt’s video & glad I did.
Seems to me Wellers along with Blanton's(my little pony bottle) are both over-hyped and overpriced. OF 100, WT 101, OGD 114, Larceny, ET BIB are my favorites budget bourbons.
I feel you on the 2am nose hemoglobin issues, know them well.
Cornbread HECK yeah
Gravy ...always!!!
Honey suckle is a vine
But you lost me on the Crocs...lol
Great video though!
I remember recently finally opening my Old Forrester Birthday Bourbon 2020 and it was very disappointing. Definitely that one was not worth the hype. It wasn’t bad, but it just lacked and robust flavor.
The retail price of Weller 12, including high taxes, is $50 give or take. 12 year bourbon, for 50 bucks. Even the distiller knows what it is. Hyped to the moon, think hard people.
Joseph Magnus Cigar Blend.....so disappointing. I took it to my local liquor store and ask the owner and employee's opinions. To a person they all felt sorry for me based on the $$ I spent to get the bottle. I now invest in Knob Creek and Russell's store picks almost exclusively.....haven't been disappointed yet with that strategy!!
U speaking my language. Low Budget Bourbons. Low $30ish my limit. For me it's only 100-proof & up or BiB.. Thumbs up on the MM
I bought a bottle of Old Fitzgerald BiB 13 yr old for $199.99, which is the most I've ever paid. I was disappointed for the price.
I think people love hating on Makers but their product lines are so enjoyable to me.
Oh Man!! Kurt you’re so right, gravy is the nectar, I don’t know how I’ll be able to trust Trenton’s taste buds from now on 😆. Keep up the great work guys ✌️🖖
So funny Kurt is so worried about being wrong. So worried about looking dumb or whatever the case is. It's just whiskey and things taste different at different times. It's not like school where you're going to get an f. You guys are just having fun drinking whiskey. It's hard to go through life overthinking it haha. Blinds are fun because it exposes your opinion without being influenced. If you ended up loving the cheapest whiskey which in this one you did😂, it's still what tastes good to you regardless of prestige. Wild turkey 101 pretty much decimates most of the more expensive whiskeys. I suppose I would have a lot of the insecurities that Kurt does which is why I see it. But in the end who cares just go through the experience and say what you're going to say. The only people that might judge you are stupid whiskey snobs who really have no life
All I have to say is........Millennials, you gotta wonder🤨..Nice Vid as always Guys.
Weller always will be and always has been a bottom shelf bourbon. Nobody bat an eye at it 8 to 10 years ago until they discovered it uses the same mash bill as Pappy. Now all of a sudden people go crazy for a bottom shelf bourbon just because it's a BT product. I would pick any MM over any Weller any day.
I am from 1952!
Love OF 100! Makers is ok but prefer the 46 or Cask strength. I’ll take regular makers anyday. The other two haven’t tried
Once upon a time, Weller 12 was a more affordable alternative to Makers. IMHO, it was not a better alternative. I am not surprised that Makers edged out the Weller 12.
I searched out Old Weller Antique 107. Not a fan realizing my pallet doesn't like wheaters
I agree Wellers 12 is not my favorite. My favorite Wellers is Full Proof, then Antique 107
I think OF 100 would have one 1sr place for me. I prefer Maker's 46 over the standard Maker's Mark.
Ok, so I have been following you guys for a while you have great bourbons and good topics,... Just a critique. I think you could have more views, likes and shares, if you focused on the bourbon. You guys go off track so much that I'm constantly either hitting fast forward or just exiting out of the videos. When you are actually drinking and giving your opinion it's great. Your extra, is like 2xs extra. This video shouldn't have been 25 mins long. Again, I think you guys are great, but if you stay on task it would be better. Thanks for what you do.
Trenton should’ve grabbed an Old Crow or Kentucky Deluxe for the #1 pick as a joke.