Let’s Talk About Genesis (and Two Creation Stories)
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- I’m ruining Genesis today. The Bible - more specifically, Genesis, does not begin with one “creation story.” There’s actually two! And they don’t mesh together to make one nice unified story. So, what’s going on in Genesis then?
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It is wonderful that we finally have theologians who admit the internal divergences of the Bible.
He's not exactly saying something that hasn't been said by thousands of theologians before, for at least 2 centuries. This is standard theology.
Oh, they've always known. Every seminary graduate knows this stuff. They just don't tell the flocks. It'd ruin their faith.
I was Pentecostal in college -- and everybody there called seminaries "cemeteries" because they seemed to produce ex-Christians as often as seminary graduates. We used "Bible colleges," which are more like indoctrination stations that reinforce everything that evangelical pastors teach from the pulpit.
Rather than saying the two accounts are "not compatible", I would say they are "complementary". But perhaps that's because I didn't view these accounts as literal descriptions of physical events so much as a descriptive device for communicating something important about God, humanity and our relationship with him and each other.
The idea of transcendent and imminent makes more sense but that is still not the main point of the text
Do you think that the creation in Genesis 1 is different from Genesis 2? Do you think the bible suggests that God created man twice?
Not at all. That is not what the Bible teaches
Two different stories, told by two different writers for two different purposes, about the same subject. Put side by side by a third person to give the reader two ways of thinking about the story. Sadly, some people try to take literally what was never intended to be literal, thus making themselves look like idiots.
Question, what's the difference between the Israelite faith and the Jewish faith? You put Israelite Faith juxtaposed against Christian and Jewish faith.
Good video, and thank you. I think it's important to look at the tablets and simultaneous accounts of stories in the Old testament that Moses wrote down
ancient isrealite religion and the Jewish faith today are pretty different.
Father and Son perspectives?
Genesis 1:1-8 is a re-telling of the Babylonian Enuma Elish.
In Genesis: The wind (RUACH) of God was hovering above the waters, then God divided the deep waters (TEHOM) with the firmament to form heaven and earth.
Enuma Elish: Marduk restrains Tiamat with the four winds, then divides TIAMAT in two to form the world.
Tehom is a cognate of Tiamat.
Both accounts start with watery chaos (Sumerian: goddess Tiamat) (Hebrew: Tehom, the deep)
Elohim subdues chaos to order the world.
Greek creation myth follows the same pattern.
You bring up some interesting points .The first creation narrative is from the Elohistic tradition and the second creation story is from the yahvistic tradition , two different stories, two different traditions , two different gods . The god of the new testament Christ is the Elohim ( Alihyim ) , the god of the Israelites is yhwh , they are not the same , and the bible demonstrates this , if you understand what you are reading . The bible has been cleverly edited to wreak confusion .
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There are not 2 different creation stories at all. They can quite easily be merged if you read Genesis 1 - 3 properly.
Can you explain how in genesis 1 god started creating animal on the 5th day but in genesis 2 he created man before all animal of the earth?
plants, animals, people
vs
human, garden, animals, divide human into man and woman
anyway, it's kind of irrelevant. the two stories focus on different themes. why even try to merge them?
1 God as sovereign over his creation, with sun, moon and humans "ruling" different realms
2-3 human nature and our relationship with each other and with God as our maker, judge and saviour
@@michaellejean-baptiste2631 Some have argued that the Genesis 2 statement is not saying the animals were created right then and there. It looks that way if you read it a certain way, but if you read it as though they were made before Adam, then that statement is just telling you where they already came from and Adam is called to name them. But I am having a hard time believing that when the wording just does not quite match that because the statement should read, And out of the ground where the Lord God HAD formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; he brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. It seems as though God created a separate group of humans and animals initially and the account with Adam and the animals in the field are something else just for the Garden of Eden where we have immortal humans God wanted to make for some reason, meaning the other humans outside of it are not immortal.
I’ve been thinking about this and I’ve come to Amy personal conclusion that the. God in Genesis 1 is not the same as God in Genesis 2. There are both given different names one is God and the other lord God. The lord does not seem as great as God, and the Lord god seems like to curse the things he makes but God only creates good and blessed his creations. Can’t be the same God, unless he’s bipolar.
Book of confusion?
I think it was Mark Twain who said, "it's better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt"
That’s Lord(Baal) god the devil. There is 2 stories. One follows your ALL LOVING Heavenly Father. The other wants to be worshiped like a god.
Explain please
The first God created the heavens and earth. The second Lord God genesis 2:4 created the Earth and Heaven (IN) the day.
Fairy tales.
Where do you get truth?