The trend is that you pay extra for cosmetics, mounts, pets, frames and titles. They probably sell pretty well since they keep doing it like this. Recently they've been adding movement styles and milestone porting animations too. I do wish they had something else for the extra bundles, like a valar package.
£30 for the expansion. The rest are just bundles that you don't need. I used to order them, but the difference keeps growing and I can't justify the extra cost. especially when I already have every class at level cap. I don't want extra slots or virtue, etc.
Movement style kinda wierd tho. No matter what we use a different weapon, it shows only two handed sword. Looks great for cappy, champ 2h weapon classes tho.
They have added the 150 level upgrade to ALL of the bundles. That means the cheapest bundle now will have it so you can stop bashing them. Gotta wait until 10/16 to receive though. I'm not sure if Ghynghyn mentioned it in his video, but not all your characters will receive all that. On Angmar legendary server, my characters there received everything except for the map carry-all and both of the expedition supplies. The first character on Landroval, my main logged on first and received all of it. So be very careful as always with who you log on first after purchasing. No biggie if you intend on giving alts on the same server stuff, but you are out of luck if you want to move gear/items in between servers.
Thanks for the video, Ghyn. Surprised there's no Valar pack in this one with the higher tier additions of the expansion. I get it for the mini expansion, which are usually cheaper and smaller. But this is being pushed as a full expansion and should have a Valar, imo. EDIT: They're adding them let's gooo!
There isn’t a level increase. I believe the thinking was you could get one from the Corsair xpac. No need to add another if there isn’t a level cap increase
@@forestschneiter5832 While this is true, they've only avoided putting Valar packs in mini expensions, which are cheaper. This is being marketed as a full expansion, is full price, and full price expansion usually come with a Valar for the higher tiers.
@@eLemonnader I believe they're gonna start disusing the term 'mini', so the cheaper expansions will also just be called 'expansions'. I don't know if that's part of why they're at least partially changing up what's included in the bundles.
Pretty good video thanks. But I wish you would show and talk about all the little things, like the 'scorpion surprise bauble' and 'treasured currency bonus trait', I have no idea what these are and cant seem to find out anything about them. Things like the 'Fateful Gundabad Toolkit' which doubles festival effort are things I would really like to know about. That toolkit saves me a ton of time in festivals.
Very unlikely to buy ultimate this time for me. Maybe if they straight up add a valar in there , and even that is a maybe. Cheers for vid , welcome back ;)
If L50+ content dropped cosmetic/different-looking weapons, would that be a sufficient compromise to the LI system? 🤔 'Cause I don't see that system going anywhere, with all the work that's already been put into it and with how much it is integrated to the game already.
As usual less and less items with every new expansion at the same price tag. I'm not surprised tbh. It's ok though. Whale's gonna rush and buy it anyway.
Since this is an expansion without a level cap, I don't think there's a place for it. My guess is that next expansion in the future would be level 160 and have those kind of items.
Too expensive for so little, really the cosmetics don't justify the prices. They should consider give more quality of life stuff like carry-all in lower tiers bundles and LPs like in the Supporter packs. New players have no reason at all to buy the expansion as is.
Wow, when you think SSG can not go any lower than it is but they actually can. This looks like pure shit. Copy paste content from DDO (their other game), with an Arabian theme, pure nonsense, out of lore.
The issue is what else is there left? They can't just add to existing areas because why do an Angmar 2 for higher levels? You already did Angmar long ago so it doesn't add anything I'd want to do. We always thought that once everything was released for Middle Earth, this is when the game would end. The legendary servers is what is keeping the game open. If there is no new content, SSG is left with shutting down all non-legendary servers and focusing on them instead. The issue there is it only kicks the can down the road for when those servers catch up to level 150 (I like you, don't care beyond Gundabad). Do you shut them down allowing for maybe a bonus set of items and open new legendary servers and start over? Will a UI refresh be enough to keep people? I really think LOTRO is coming to end in the next 5 years once the legendary servers reach full content. That has been suggested about 3.5 years.
Its a pass for me. The combat always felt meh and the classes are very bland and no urge to unlock the next skill or spell. The graphics were also outdated when the game released so now they are even more outdated.
I am not impressed by this whatsoever for the asking price, the Mirkwood one was so much better, and the animation in the Whimsical, too. This movement style makes the wrist appear broken and the outfits and mounts are nothing special.
They call it an expansion when it's not. No level cap increase, no new game mechanic, no new skills, no new traits, no new trait points, no power increase. 40 dollar quest pack, new reputation grind and couple instances. Weak. :(
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So good to see you GhynGhyn!
Thanks for the video Ghyn. Plenty to look forward too and glad to see LOTRO going from strength to strength.
No offense to fans but why does this game still use triple A price tags for it's expansions ...
you're right and I think most of us agree with you
The trend is that you pay extra for cosmetics, mounts, pets, frames and titles. They probably sell pretty well since they keep doing it like this. Recently they've been adding movement styles and milestone porting animations too. I do wish they had something else for the extra bundles, like a valar package.
^ What Ghyn said. The standard edition is what you mainly want. The other bundles are for extras if you want them.
£30 for the expansion.
The rest are just bundles that you don't need. I used to order them, but the difference keeps growing and I can't justify the extra cost. especially when I already have every class at level cap. I don't want extra slots or virtue, etc.
Lol you also have to spend money to be allowed to craft no joke.
Good to see a new video!
Wonderful content Wonderful expansion for our LOTRO! thanx for the heads up buddy!
can't wait just ordered thanks for the video :)
Thanks for taking the time to do that for us :)
Thank you ghynghyn for showing the bundles
Come on... Can we stop hiding cool alternative movement/weapon animation behind 120-140$ bundles?
They have them in other bundles too that you can grind LP for free.
I mean. I'm only aware of this one and the silly skipping walk. Is there others?
if to go by other exapnasions, some of them come later in a store or in the NPC barterer so it's also good I guess
Movement style kinda wierd tho. No matter what we use a different weapon, it shows only two handed sword.
Looks great for cappy, champ 2h weapon classes tho.
Out of curious interest...are there any comprehensive lists for new ingame (tradeable) items introduced in expansions?
They have added the 150 level upgrade to ALL of the bundles. That means the cheapest bundle now will have it so you can stop bashing them. Gotta wait until 10/16 to receive though. I'm not sure if Ghynghyn mentioned it in his video, but not all your characters will receive all that. On Angmar legendary server, my characters there received everything except for the map carry-all and both of the expedition supplies. The first character on Landroval, my main logged on first and received all of it. So be very careful as always with who you log on first after purchasing. No biggie if you intend on giving alts on the same server stuff, but you are out of luck if you want to move gear/items in between servers.
hey man, where does the 150 boost go when you buy the ultimate edition?
I just wish LOTRO would return to VIPs being able to use points to buy the expansion at release.
Thanks for the video, Ghyn. Surprised there's no Valar pack in this one with the higher tier additions of the expansion. I get it for the mini expansion, which are usually cheaper and smaller. But this is being pushed as a full expansion and should have a Valar, imo.
EDIT: They're adding them let's gooo!
There isn’t a level increase. I believe the thinking was you could get one from the Corsair xpac. No need to add another if there isn’t a level cap increase
@@forestschneiter5832 While this is true, they've only avoided putting Valar packs in mini expensions, which are cheaper. This is being marketed as a full expansion, is full price, and full price expansion usually come with a Valar for the higher tiers.
@@eLemonnader I believe they're gonna start disusing the term 'mini', so the cheaper expansions will also just be called 'expansions'. I don't know if that's part of why they're at least partially changing up what's included in the bundles.
same thing, without valar i m buy standart bundle
A 150 valar is now being included.
Not think much of those portraits borders.
I saw there are also Monsterplay skins in the Ultimate Bundle. Can you show them too? Pls
The frames and the walking styles will be ''adjusted'' before launch.
Great job buddy !
I do not know how good that movement style would look on a brawler,
Good point xD
Is there any way to buy a code for the expansion to activate in-game instead of buying on-site? Lotro won't accept my money
No war seeds?
I agree the portrait frames look ugly, but otherwise decent cosmetics.
Pretty good video thanks. But I wish you would show and talk about all the little things, like the 'scorpion surprise bauble' and 'treasured currency bonus trait', I have no idea what these are and cant seem to find out anything about them. Things like the 'Fateful Gundabad Toolkit' which doubles festival effort are things I would really like to know about. That toolkit saves me a ton of time in festivals.
Thank you for the news! Do you think you could do a video on the elf/high elf avatar update? I'm excited to see it :)
Thanks for the video. I also like the oryx, but run animation is kinda off.
Going to wait and see what the teleport item is. That will determine if I shell out the big bucks or wait for LP version.
Very unlikely to buy ultimate this time for me.
Maybe if they straight up add a valar in there , and even that is a maybe.
Cheers for vid , welcome back ;)
looks stylish
This is not worth 130 what the heck
If L50+ content dropped cosmetic/different-looking weapons, would that be a sufficient compromise to the LI system? 🤔 'Cause I don't see that system going anywhere, with all the work that's already been put into it and with how much it is integrated to the game already.
As usual less and less items with every new expansion at the same price tag. I'm not surprised tbh. It's ok though. Whale's gonna rush and buy it anyway.
Better be Djinn and Giant Scorpion's and Snakes lot's of Snakes. And a hint at who their enemies or friend's are further south.
I'll pay for the ultimate edition, gladly.
No xp bonus item?
Since this is an expansion without a level cap, I don't think there's a place for it. My guess is that next expansion in the future would be level 160 and have those kind of items.
@@ghynghyn4706 Thanks, i was thinking about the items that give Gift of the Helmingas for example when you level an alt.
I find it to hight priced! For me the Corsairs Of Umbar was 3 bucks cheaper and had an Valar...
u can tell they never once stopped to try the frames out ingame
design aside, they block ur name and rank..... cmon SSG, think for one second pls
I wish I could afford this. Inflation killed my wallet.
dont waste your money for this nonsense
How come? I haven't checked into LOTR in a long time
How come the cinematics always look better than the actual game it literally looks like classic wow still 😂
Ghyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyn please stream some raids again once in a while with epic medieval songs and maxed stuff and stufffffffffffffffff
Too expensive for so little, really the cosmetics don't justify the prices. They should consider give more quality of life stuff like carry-all in lower tiers bundles and LPs like in the Supporter packs. New players have no reason at all to buy the expansion as is.
Fix the lag, add some PVP endgame content and renew the UI.
Have you tried the new legendary servers - I hear that the 64-bit servers have that 'fixed'
Wow, when you think SSG can not go any lower than it is but they actually can. This looks like pure shit. Copy paste content from DDO (their other game), with an Arabian theme, pure nonsense, out of lore.
I usually buy these, but these bundles seem a little weak to me. Inflation hitting SSG employees I guess
Ja the frames are a let-down. They look blurry and cover up the first few letters of your name. A real graphic creator fail
GHYNNNNNNNNNNNNN
The frames are hideous. The different tiers don't add anything aside from a recolour and the square overlaps the name text which is annoying
The frames are surprisingly ugly and don't work at all with the vitals display.
I think the middle earth theme has been lost with pirates and desert 🏜. Seems to be getting away from main theme.
Exactly my opinion, too
The issue is what else is there left? They can't just add to existing areas because why do an Angmar 2 for higher levels? You already did Angmar long ago so it doesn't add anything I'd want to do. We always thought that once everything was released for Middle Earth, this is when the game would end. The legendary servers is what is keeping the game open. If there is no new content, SSG is left with shutting down all non-legendary servers and focusing on them instead. The issue there is it only kicks the can down the road for when those servers catch up to level 150 (I like you, don't care beyond Gundabad). Do you shut them down allowing for maybe a bonus set of items and open new legendary servers and start over? Will a UI refresh be enough to keep people? I really think LOTRO is coming to end in the next 5 years once the legendary servers reach full content. That has been suggested about 3.5 years.
Phey tuu wiiin
Frames :O :(
Why do they put a new patch with just new zones begind a paywall? a new expansion should be more content that this
We will be getting a 3man and two 6mans and also a new raid with several boss fights
Good video but another disappointing ultimate pack in the end... Quality took a hit at SSG, they have been doing this for years. Not good.
Character frames are pure garbage!! The movement style is horrible. It's making the packages look like a waste of $$
Its a pass for me. The combat always felt meh and the classes are very bland and no urge to unlock the next skill or spell. The graphics were also outdated when the game released so now they are even more outdated.
I am not impressed by this whatsoever for the asking price, the Mirkwood one was so much better, and the animation in the Whimsical, too. This movement style makes the wrist appear broken and the outfits and mounts are nothing special.
People still playing this game ? Might come back when they actually release even half decent raid or else its dead for me.
They call it an expansion when it's not. No level cap increase, no new game mechanic, no new skills, no new traits, no new trait points, no power increase. 40 dollar quest pack, new reputation grind and couple instances. Weak. :(
I guess they have that treasure gathering mechanic that's new, but still doesn't seem 'enough'