Is Pakistan's Culture At Risk Because of Dirilis Ertugrul Ghazi? | Haute Bites | Something Haute
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Hats off to Aamina the way she explained that there are no geographical boundaries in Islam. This is such a true thing.. it feels really good when the critics are such knowledgable and are open minded. And I really like your articulated way of speaking.
Loove Aamina 🙂❤
There is no Pakistani , Turkish culture , what is there is sunnah of prophets and sunnah of khadija ra, Ayesha ra , Fatima ra
I watched all five seasons last year and love the series because now my kids see a hero who is Muslim. Not an Iron man or spiderman who are nothing like us but a brave warrior who prays and fasts and is an all round good person and above all being a normal human being is his super power.
Hi.
Please let me know if my kids 11 and 9 years old can watch? Un ki age k liyay appropriate hai?
@@mariamaria-mv9wp there are no inappropriate scenes at all but yes there is violence with a lot of blood spilling and heads being severed. My 8 year old watched it and I was ok with it. You should decide on your own.
Sara Tariq blood spilling and beheadings are a part of wars and battles. These things are shown because to show that how the Turk Muslims sacrificed thier lives for their Honour and dignity.
I dont know what the problem is with the people who are criticising Ertugrul just because we might lose our identity .Where were these people when Indian and Holllywood films/ TV series were running in pakistan? Us waqt identity crisis ka koi problem nahi tha, but when we are watching an islamic show portraying muslim strength, suddenly they realize that we might lose our "Identity". Sick of these people!🤢
Well said and those same people who are criticizing the show dance on bollywood music and even tamil which has no connection with pakistan whatsoever
Well said 👍🏻
Absolutely right
EXACTLY!!!!
I'm so happy to see your comment where were these people when we were making films that was showing women jumping up and down on filthy songs and choreography was more like pornography
When we can watch English movies, indian movies, dramas other Turkish dramas then why not our own Islamic history... 🤷♀️
Islamic history?
On tv? Or serial
It's not islam
Maham Awan ! You r so right, where is our culture in weddings? First of all we r so mixed with subcontinent culture , we have no our specific culture . Every thing we do is like adopted from someone . We have to admit it.. take this drama as a drama n if we can learn something good then why not .Drama can be popular without nudity, vulgarity & western morals, this is the proof. Why are we so scared ? This drama is banned because of so many reasons .. search & find out why .. when our dramas r watched in other countries we feel proud & when it happens in ours .. we start complaining .
I was not expecting ☹️ this contradiction.
This is not islamic history. It's the history of muslims. We will tomorrow become part of that history of muslims too.
It's the history of Islam, how islam spreaded, how Muslims ruled the world.. Is Muslims and Islam are poles apart
@@Mawan4697 Islamic history is about the life of prophets and the evolution of Islam through them. These were conquerors who established dynasties. Remember the ottomans killed their own siblings,even their infant nephews for power. So did the mughuls. Some were good muslims, some were not. They had their glory and their downfall. Islam is the same for ever, Muslims may have highs and lows. Whatever muslims are today will make the history of muslims tomorrow.
Does it really matter whether we are pakistanis or turks .At the end of the day we all are muslims. I completely agree with Aamna. Geographical boundaries doesn"t separate us.the series puts light on the life of muslims even more than turks themselves.WE all are the same muslims who believe in the same god and the same prophet(PBUH).I don"t think it"s really a big problem if pakistanis love ertugrul.
Yes jo bhi ha turkh ha pakistan ha han tu sara musalman ha na.
Our sub continent dynasties ,muhmud Ghazni, babur, Ertugrul who led to the foundation of the OE, all came from the same region, the central Asia.
I dont remember anyone having an issue when we have bollywood movies in our cinemas bollywood dramas in our homes bollywod dances and songs at our weddings unka naach gaana and also when they pray to thier gods we r ok to see that but a turkish drama will somehow make us forget our culture? ridiculous. also if it is making people reflect on Islamic values it doesn't matter if it is turkish Arab if it makes u think and reflect on deen its good. I think shaan logon ko yeh bhi darr hai ke they will have to make quality programmes pehlay saas bahu bana kar kehtay thay ke this is what awaam wants ab pata chala ke awaam also wants quality dramas and they know they will have to raise thier game in thier productions and acting. iss liye kuch ziyaida inko fikr ho rahi hai.
agree
I had the similar thoughts
Those who are criticizing the Turkish people never gave a view on Pakistans TH-cam trending section. And isn't it haram to look at girls pictures and wasting time on Instagram.
They can do all this and then think they are the most religious people out there
Hassan they are not showing Turkish culture in Ertugrul infact they showed Muslim history.
Culture is a product of history, one cannot delete one from the other. Those who profess Islam as our faith, whatever our culture, adhere to the ethics ofour fa
@changingpakistan1 ok if this is made by Pakistani producer then he would have made in urdu or any other language. Which culture he would have shown. Similarly they have all the rights to show what they want as long as they show the real history. Secondly islam has no boundaries.
@@zulmawani1416 well said
Greetings from Canada..plz let the people of Pakistan be exposed to other cultures without the fear of losing our own identity..we are way more stronger in our skins and roots, but yes definitely no harm in mixing with cultures..hope we spread positive vibes
True. Limiting exposure to other cultures is kind of unfair. It prevents freedom of choice.
@@nimrahkhan9105 well said we should try to appreciate other culture and learn from them
@@Faraaaaaz yes. Let the youth explore this world and then they can reach their own conclusions from their observations.
@@nimrahkhan9105 Agreed!!
@@Faraaaaaz Bro you are still awake?
I disagree with Hasan. I don’t think Saudi Arabia is a country we should look up to in terms of what they’ve banned or allowed. Cus their media is quite strict and monitored. And you cannot say anything against the cruelties they do on their people. Islam originated from Arab, thats true, but today’s KSA is totally different than what it was earlier.
Ertugrul a great drama and amazing content. It’s a slap on all the producers and directors who make absurd and low quality content for our Pakistani people and mock their intelligence by saying that this is what the audience wants to watch and gives TRP.
Ertugrul is a great example of how good content works and hard work shows and pays off.
Hassan didn't say you should look up to Saudi Arabia, Hassan merely stated a fact that a vast majority of Pakistanis do look up to Saudi Arabia
-- Hassan
100% Agreed with ur 2nd point
Mukhtiar Ali you must know Hassan even better than he knows himself. And if you had watched the video with your eyes and ears open, you would have seen and heard him clearly state that no one has any authority over what someone wants to or does not want to watch. This is, btw, Hassan writing this comment before you go on to attribute another lie to him
-- Hassan
Saudi Arabia and Turkey don’t get along well with each other due to political reasons.Saudi Arabia was carved out of Ottoman Empire and they feel threatened by Turkey.
@@Aqsaa286 Hassan chill he hai.
Logon ko bhi soch kr baat krni chahye pehle. Hassan agay se kuch kahay bhi nhi? We dont own him ok
History facts not spoilers: The tribe name of Ertugrul is kayi tribe which is part of oghuz tribe. This tribe lived in Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan region during 10-11th century. When Genghis khan( Mongols) attacked those region, this Kayi tribe became nomad and settled today ‘s Turkey country . So, this drama is historical not regional. Thanks Amna and Hasan for your wonderful critical review.
And ertugrul son laid the foundation of ottoman empire.
Sumaiya Waheed yes and ottoman empire is not just included Turkey country but also included southeast Europe, Central Europe and even north Africa. So my point is that this drama is not represented as Turkis culture at all. It is Just Historical drama series with friction!
Supria also includes middle east too
It is not about the history of Turks but the history of Muslims❤️❤️❤️ love the series soo much
Absolutely agreed with amina there's no boundaries in islam. As far as ban over this show is concerned its just like all islamic countries are not allying together they will definitely finger point.
True
The way aamna has portrayed her thoughts on this Ertugrul issue is absolutely right.. the way she has done justice to this debate it’s pic perfect.. hats off to u Mam👌
we should learn from the characters in ertugrul rather than posting hate comments on the actors.Please Pakistanis broaden your minds a little bit.Islam does not allow us to spread hatred.
Why don't we watch? It's our personal life and choice.If Shaan type people have problem go do Erteğrul type acting yourself ..NP!
This drama is relatable beacuse of Islamic aspects. We all are one under the banner of Islam. So it doesn't matter if its a Turkish drama or a Pakistani drama. Its our Islamic history. We are proud of it.😍
im proud to say I’m Mauritian. I can tell you that I have never felt out of place with so many faith in my little island. My neighbour next door is a Muslim family. We celebrate all festival, it’s not odd that I will receive sewayan for eid or gifts for x mas. A lot of people are so short minded and very few are open to different cultures. I have watched so many dramas in so many langauges all my life and I don’t feel any threats watching something different.
Pakistanis wake up and see that there is a beautiful world out there call reality and so much to learn from different cultures.
Have to agree with Hassan there. It’s hard to ignore such idiotic remarks of people, really makes you wonder their thought process
Alvida Hamesha it’s good to see someone have hope for these people, I don’t share that sentiment though
Shaan's point is wrong. If we are not making our own dramas like that does not mean we cannot watch Muslim history dramas from other countries. Such an excuse is the lamest excuse one can offer.
Shaan role model is only gujjar.
now my third and very important point what it has to do with our culture
1. first we share same Islamic culture
2. it relates us to the time when Muslims was united and also how much they struggle to keep the hold of our holy sites
3. early subcontinent warrior like zaheer uddin baber who was the founder of mughal empire he has Turkish blood he was a Turkmen who fought with Afghan warriors and Rajut dynasty
4. still if you trace many races of Pakistan you will end up in the turks lands
5. our language urdu which came into being in Mughal time have Turkish origin because mugal empire have alot of Turkmen soldiers
Aamna, you are a very sensible lady. You know how to convey your message!
There is no Pakistani , Turkish culture , what is there is sunnah of prophets and sunnah of khadija ra, Ayesha ra , Fatima ra
I loved your Review of Ertugrul last time. You guys reviewed it perfectly 😭😭😭 Hassan obsessing over Ertugrul was the best thing ever.
Ottomans left Hijaz without shedding a drop of blood against Al i Saud in 1918. They did not want any blood shed in holy cities.
People who are against this Turkish dramas have no valid point to oppose this drama.
I so agree with Amna , when I watched the series , although some times I thought it dragged , but what always kept me glued was the values they portrayed , how they treated their people around them , the respect they showed them. I feel our drama hardly depict values like that . Going fw you will see that even when ertugul disagrees with anyone of his loved one , he still never disrespect them. This is the kind of values we need in our society.
I absolutely agree with Amna..we are first Muslims.
Amina and Hasan: kudos for calling out the crazies! I had the exact same sentiments as you, it's a show! They are actors...let them be. And nobody has any right to question someone's 'Islamicness', that's between them and Allah!
Plz dont bother negative remarks about Ertugral...ye baten kerne wale mer ker bi aisa brilliant show nahi bana sakte. This is Pakistan's culture that negative pple always criticize stuff which starts trending all over.
Loved your analysis guys. A very balanced and realistic one. When it comes to Erturgul, I loved the show because the values and faith those people had.
I agree with both of u.shame on those persons who messaged on instagram of ertugul cast
Pakistani culture is a very complicated amalgamation of many cultures across the region because it's geographically so intricately placed. You can find bits of Persian, Afghan, Indian and then our very own local cultures that are so diverse. In the past decade or so thanks to the media and broadband internet the 'Gora' culture is also starting to take roots here.
There is no set 'Pakistani' culture, we take what we can from those around us. Same should be the case with this series: take inspiration from it and try to incorporate the good things in your life... Then move on!
Base of Pakistan culture, traditions is India
Ye hamari islamic history ha bilkul sahi keh rhi hain amna ek akela bnda islam k liey uth k nkla ha ye kaha se dosro ka culture ho geya amna bilkul achey se smjha rhi hain i 100 percent agreed with amna
Logo ko koi na koi topic chaheay batein bnaney ko unko chaheay k tawajah se drama dekhein ye hamari islamic history ha
Han actors turkey hain to kya hoa
Aur han amna ap aise hi itni khubsurt hain zaruri nahi ankh bari hoti
Me apko boht pasand krti hon
Hassan bhai yaha saudia me lig dewaney hain artugrul k yaha pr to almost 4 sal pehley se me sun rhi hun hr koi iske barey me bat krtey hain
Ap jo keh rahey hain saudia me baned hai
Yaha k log to boht dekhtey hainhassan bhai ap logo ki soch ko bilkul b nahi badl sktey
Ye hamari kom hai bhai logo ki lives k fesley krtey hain bethey bethey
I am from Gilgit, the traditional values and especially the cultural dress , jewellery resembles to them. Also the women position and strong stance they take. it feels like i m watching my own history..
Yea kpk and balochistan also has the same culture and clothing..but the media never highlights it
The viewer are smart these days.They won’t accept a below average Lollywood production movie just because its Islamic.we are used to watching high quality Hollywood and Bollywood movies and Ertrugrul has high standards and the suspense is created and maintained very well and the consistency is amazing
I must clarify to those( who are saying we should portray our own heroes ) Ertugurul and phenomena is our heroes , they are not strangers to us . We have strong cultural binding with Turks in terms of Islam and moral values. Let the pakistanis learn their history.
i was thinking this too, it doesn't matter if its Turkey, it's still part of our history
I haven't seen this series yet, but definitely will after Ramadan. But all I got to know about the series is it has an Islamic content. It may have shown Islam beautifully.. But it is not a Risk to Pakistani culture it is a Risk for drama industry coz nowadays Pakistani dramas are mostly about marriage, divorces, domestic violence, kidnapping, rape, forceful marriage. And then they come to an end either happy or sad mostly Happy ending.....
Anyways this is my opinion for now. Hopefully i may comment after watching the show later . Love ur channel 😘😍
I absolutely agree with Hasan, why we shouldn't watch that doesn't belong to us.. I am Hindu from India but i love to watch Pakistani dramas then what's problem in watching Turkish drama.. history attracts me.. so loving watching ERTUGRUL...
Wow. So cute of you
I teach Pakistan Studies and here's a small fact for all the people who think Ertugrul doesn't connect to the subcontinental history, when the Ottoman Empire came to an end in 1923 with the Khilafat being abolished by Attaturk all Indian Muslims came together to struggle against the decision (Khilafat movement, the basis of Pakistan movement) and to save the Ottoman Khalifa Suleman. The Ottoman Empire was established by Ertugrul's son Osman which is why Ertugrul is famous. People lost their lives, homes, families and money during the Khilafat movement. All Muslim nations were one under the same Khilafa during that time, so it's connected to us,. Also the Suljuk Sultanate frequently discussed in Ertugrul stretched to the Himalayas which is our northern region, guys please be real. Amna already discussed how we are culturally related and this is how we are historically related, so people who say we are not just have baseless opinions. Oh and yes Taif was also located in the same region and that's where Muhammad Bin Qasim came from. And for the men commenting on bilgic's instagram, ideally ur not allowed to be stalking her, what the heck were u doing there in the first place, secondly Islam forbids u to dictate a woman who is not related to u (is na mahram) how do i know? I teach Islamiyat too, ja ke thori ahadith khud bhi parhlein. What u were supposed to do was to scroll away from the picture.... btw i loved the session and could feel every bot of Hassan and amna's emotions :) and i believe the series was banned in Arab because of mystic aspect
indian muslims????????????????????
lol u r high on weed.........
punjab or afghan with kp were never part of india
and i think no indian muslim did a single shit...................
You are absolutely right!!!😊😊😊
@@rsshinduoryahudikimoatpunj9716 Please inhey koi bataye there were indian muslims and they mostly belonged to the educated elite centered in delhi as well, punjab kp and some of afghan was part of the indian subcontinent, please hisotry ki course book kholien, that is why punjab shares a border with india aur public comment krney se pehley please wash your mouth
@@azkajaveria1131 loln...u n eed to study first punjabi dominent india in ancient times...moryan koshan guptas etc
@@azkajaveria1131 punjab known as inus valley civilization while indians were diffrent countries
Naa seekhny ka koi scene nai hamary attitude Mei !!!! I always get surprised people spent ages in UK Or any other developed countries but didn’t learn anything from education sector or health the way they treat their patients or students .... It always disappoints me and feels we won’t change ever😭😭😭
Very very nicely said
i watched with english subtitles bcs i love the voice of altan as ertugrul. he has a powerful voice which makes you want to listen and obey to his character ertugrul. i cant relate Urdu dubbed voice to ertugrul as a leader
His voice is powerful as his eyes.
Being a mauritian I do watch pakistani and turkish drama and even korean drama and also money heist so it's called diversification... am a Muslim and proud to be however we should be open.. treat the show as a show not as something link to religion.. however am proud to be a Muslim and derive pleasure from watching ertugul..I fell connected
This is very commendable that you guys are pushing the bars and reviewing something, which is trending and a huge hit. I would like you to be considerate towards those who are watching it on ptv while reviewing it, because u guys can watch as many episodes as u want but we can only watch 1 episode a day.
Marvellous. What a pertinent review! Much needed thought for the masses to get inspiration from the Ertugrul character. Luv it!
Having watched Ertugrul in turkish I am also enjoying the dubbed version where I can focus on the facial expressions and backdrop. Subtitles distract you from the cinematography and acting skills a bit so frankly I am glad it's in urdu too.
Kindly decide a separate day for Ertugul. Week in reviews and Weekend in reviews should be just for our dramas
My simple question, who will PTV base a pakistani series on? Muhammad bin qasim wasnt fom this region. Tipu Sultan was from the Indian part of the sub continent. If we insist on Pakistani we will have to limit ourselves to 1947 and beyond.
Sorry but pakistan is not only punjab and other provinces have their own idols to look upto ...kpk, sindh, balochistan had their own kingdoms with great writers,poets, artist etc but they are never appreciated or mentioned in the books..
Sara Tariq you are dumb woman.Our Prophet Mohammad Saws was also not from Pakistan, Quaid e Azam was also not from Pak. He was born in Gujarat, Indo Pak.Tipu Sultan is tiger of Mysore. A muslim who fought against the britishers.
Sami..lol..my comment was sarcasm. Sorry to see you didnt notice.
Sara Tariq Sara tumhen Gawadar k beach pe chor ana chahiye abi aur esi waqt. Aik tum larki emotional creatures hoti ho tou jisko jaisa feel hua, apni feeling se bhol dia. You are one naughty girl.
I am watching Ertugrul season 3 and loving every minute of it..🥰☺️
Salam Hassan and Amna ....I am watching ertugrul too...I mean I just started I am in ep.6....my hubby never watches any dramas but this tym I requested him to watch at least 1 ep og ertugrul and know what he's hooked to it now my hubby me and my 9 yr old daughter watch it...thanks to ptv ....lots of thanks and duas from India
Talking about our history and period plays, many years back a drama was produced named dastan and it was a great drama and a big hit and much better than angan. Angan was not a hit bcz it's story was not that great and was not specifically about the partition of hindustan. I would highly recommend u to watch that drama, u will surely not regret it.
*Humain chahiye k hum Tipu Sultan pr banayen.. ya Mohammad Bin Qasim pr..*
I personally watch Korean, Pakistani, Turkish, a bit English and German content. We have the liberty to observe the diverse industries. Ertugrul being played on PTV is a good thing. Man how can a single drama be a threat to our tradition. Why r we so insecure. And Whats with Pak awaam. Who the heck r they to question the ertugrul cast on their IG. So disturbing, this awaam is so emotionally crazy
The controversies have just begun. Wait till.the religious police come round with objections to the sufism depicted. Many of my friends loved the series but objected to the mystics in it. I just hope people would rise above and take it as a work of art. Take whatever good you see in it and ignore what you disagree with.
yeah Wahabi brigade on the way :D
You both had some good points. My sister recommended the series to me, and so I went to my go to place, Netflix as I have no social media presence and knew nothing about this drama. There was only season 5 with 80 plus episodes on Netflix and so I started on the long slog I thought. Then I found out s1 was already on youtube, so went through that and just today finished s2. Now the series is well made visually, from costumes, photography to beautiful people, but I do have some critical comments. There are some pacing issues. It is very repetitive after a while, specially with so many episodes each season. I started skipping first one, then two episodes at a time and didn't feel like I missed huge chunks of the storyline. Plus it is very jingoistic at times in some dialogues, blending nationalistic, historic and religious elements into one. That is off putting to me personally as it becomes too much after a while. There are constant slo mo horse riding montages and skirmishes/ambushes/fight scenes. Eventually I ended up fast-forwarding through those. On the plus side it mixed funny with serious well. The characters are well developed and the storylines are very good. I tried the urdu dubbed version for s1 at first, but had to quickly give up on that. I prefer texting with original language. The preaching from some Pakistanis to the poor actors and others is just because we think we are the thekedaars of Islam. Apni girebaan me sab dekhein, dosre ki girebaan me nahin. At least this drama might teach a few people something about civility and how open Islam is as a religion to appeal to very culturally different people.
What do you people think about our PM publicly promoting Ertugrul has contributed towards its popularity in our country... As first season and series was already there from 2015 or so... Or had the series the same impact if it was aired without the comments made by the PM....
This apart an excellent series and alot to learn for us from several portrayals in the series...
Hmari awam shrminda krwa rhi hy unki profiles py ja k. 🤷♀️
I personally loved you are making justice with arthrugul reviews. Loved this review video.
In KPK and Gilgit Baltistan too women have same kind of traditional cloths not only Balochistan
@changingpakistan1 bro not only balochistan and gilgit and kpk share more of central asian culture(add uzbek, tajikistan too) these provinces also have around 60 million people and count 30%of pakistan..
@changingpakistan1 its just the mainstream pakistani media and govt which only focuses on two provinces that are punjab and sindh but kpk and balochstan, giglit also has sizeble population
@changingpakistan1 bro its good to know you are from kpk but i am from karachi and you are right that a lot of different ethnicities in pakistan dont wear their traditional dresses as often..Baloch in lyari dont really wear their traditional dresses but i guess people in gilgit,fata and interior sindh sindh still preserved their traditional culture and attires because they didnt have much mixing with other groups yet
@changingpakistan1 but the media should also highlight the culture and problems of other provinces in local media or else those provinces will feel neglected and their problem wont be discussed or solved...Thats what created the devision of bengal in 1971 and now the same situation is arising in baloch areas because they think other pakistanis dont really care much about them and the media is further creating the devision
@changingpakistan1 i agree with what you wrote..And first coming to the point that balochistan is really neglected despite having all the national resources but i kinda differ with your point that half of them wanted to join Iran side of balochistan or become independent country because historically baloch leaders and tribal sardars had the power to decide the fate of their people and so maybe those tribal sardars wanted to be separate but ordinary baloch really didnt think that way..But the govt is still supporting those same sardars and giving them funds instead of giving it to ordinary baloch..Also afghans who think kpk is theres is living a false dream and historically afghan kings really didnt care much about kpk pashtuns and just used them for their own benefits...Thats why even before creation of pakistan for many years kpk was mot part of Afghanistan and afghans didnt even put their claims only after pakistan was formed they started their claims on it ..And modern day turkey was founded on mustafa kamal ataturk vision and ottoman empire is only a small part of it so they dont really care to wear those traditional dresses like shown in the movie but still few tribes in Turkey preserved these tradtion
I have a very strong cent on this we Pakistanis were always been influenced like previously we were obsessed with indian content bollywood even by their television as well , all thanks to some blockbuster dramas + ban and we returned to our content but from the time Turkish dramas started airing we became influenced to turkey! But at present time its a mix but we should not sideline our own content but meanwhile our industry should come out from their comfort zones and should provide us content rather than only a single 8 pm drama!
Love Pakistan and Turkey😊
Well said but only recently pakistanis have started watching turkish drama and these drama is like the second turkish drama which has got so much fame..so to think it will influence pakistani culture would be a far stretch and already people from kpk and balochistan already have a lot of central asian influences
yu guys can call him ertu its okay jo log thora boht critisice kartay ha unko ignore karay
For the ones who are worried about Ertugrul wiping out Pakistan's culture, Ishqiya, Thora Sa Haq, Raz E Ulfat, Jhooti are made for those ppl. Go ahead ppl watch those "cultural" shows and enjoy !
How on earth a show can threaten a culture of a country? Like seriously...hahahaha
Lol its just a narrative run by bunch of imran khan haters because he advised people to watch these show..Or else for the last 20 years or so indian movies and serials have been running on pakistan freely and no one even protested against it but now all of a sudden the same people have problem with one drama
@@Faraaaaaz it's sad though...
I totally agree with you aamna.You really catch the nerves of ur viewers. First time we have got something so special from our islamic history which helps us to understand what kind of imaan our ancestors have bcoz of which Islam is known across the world .It doesnt matter from which country they belong the only thing matter is how wonderfully they have adapted the teaching of our beloved prophet and that's the reason they got victory in every stage of their life .So we as muslims should learn to follow the path been told to us and try to be a good human being jisse Allah humse raazi ho .
Best ever thought and reviews about ertugrul series..i agree with your all points..we want these kind of mentality in our society...Thankyou..
Sister has said very nice thing that Isalm has no borders... We all are one ummah who can learn from each other... The borders divides us whereas our Prophets wanted us to be one single brotherhood...
Hi Hassan & Amna!
you both are love, you people know how to win hearts of people. The review you did on ertugrul was amazing. And believe me After starting ertugrul I Quit watching Pakistani Dramas. Because It was the one who re-creates your relation with Allah. If turkey gotta some courage to make this drama. Lets appreciate. Allama Iqbal mentions in his poetry that we are the decendants of Khalid bin waleed and Salahuddin Ayubi.. Then where these turkish boundaries came? Seriously? The Pakistani Content creators criticizing Ertugrul.. Should have worth and make more dramas.. on Pakistani History. No offence.
But Ertugrul is beyound words! Beyound imagination.
1. The way the show respect, when the Name of our beloved Prophet is announced.. is quite loveable.
Very good points.
Hats off! Only if brains like you Hassan and Amna are widespread ! Amazing! Its really thought provoking to listen to you guys! We need more conversations like these !! Bravo Hassan And Amna, May Allah bless you both with huge success Aameen! Love from Middlesbrough!
I am pretty sure people like shaan with big money and talent like bilal lashari, shoaib mansoor and others can make sth similar.... I couldn't find a single reason to give Shaan a benefit of doubt aswell.... Great review. Loved it. More power and success to you both :D
I am Like Hassan Sir" Yeh kon log hyn Kysy log hyn "😂😄😆
Forget the naysayers and keep on watching 🤩 I’m almost done with the second season and have loved loved it so far 👍 and I’m sure you guys will enjoy it too 😍 just one request is that when you’re reviewing, please say the characters names clearly...I know I have a hard time saying them at first as well, especially when me and my 12 year old are discussing it (he’s still at the beginning of second season 😉) ...but by listening to them closely when they’re calling these names, I’m sure you guys would learn to say them in the same way 👍 apart from that, you guys are doing a great job and have fun watching 📺
Agree with Amna that we as muslims are not divided geographically .millions of lessons can be learned from this series Ertugul .Most intriguing tv show ever I watched .turkish people are our Muslim brothers and sisters .To be honest those Muslim countries who are insecured and fear they will loose their government and trillions of money have banned this show in their country .Agree100%with hasan chaudry that if we have been watching Bollywood movies and Hollywood movies why not our Islamic history .This is our Islamic history .👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️
There are a lot of things that can be said on this issue but I just want to highlight one point.
There is difference between Islamic History and Muslim History. This is a story inspired by Turkic Muslim history which included Seljuk Dynasty and later on, Ottoman.
It's bizarre to consider them saints or holy figures. They were noble men, some part of history and rest are part of fiction.
I loved your review in the last episode. I second Amna as I also absolutely love Hayme Ana. She is literally one of my favorite character among the Kayi. She is truly the Mother of the Tribe.
Loving your review so far but I hope your pronunciation of names improve with episodes 🙈
Also, would like one other thing. Being an obsessive fan doesn't mean you feel it's blasphemous if someone doesn't like the show or criticizes it.
I was obsessed to the show to a point where I watched 4 seasons in 4 months. I remember and recognize details to a point where I can even recognize inanimate objects or even Aktolgali 😁 but still, it's historical based fiction. Being abusive is insane.
I noticed that Turkish people from kayi tribe they put hand on their heart when anyone say prophet Muhammad this is so beautful .In reference to episode 33 I think when Ertrugul talks to eftaliya it’s not noble to hit women and I never hit women .So much control he has on his emotions it’s just phenomenal ❤️❤️❤️
I wish that our government or film industry also produce and write such series. We have a rich history. We can make series on indus valley civilization, texila, or mohenjo daro. Jab puri dunya khachra khaya karti thi to mohenjo daro me roads aur pipelines thi. And bilal lashari has alot of potential to make such series. Btw can you guys review ertugrul on friday as well🤔😚
Just watched it today for I have joined the Ertugrul bandwagon pretty late but I have watched 15 episodes in two days!!! And what an epic serial it is. Couldn't agree more with your review. And yes please communicate to our entertainment industry to stop selling us crap cheap entertainment and content inspired from Bollywood when we can have dramas based on our Islamic values. For media has responsibility it can reach masses and whatever they input in the minds of the public gets reflected in the society in the shape of rising violence against women, sex crime and child rape. Media needs to play it's role by showcasing Islamic heroes that spread Islam far and wide in history. Thanks
Saudi Arabia banning it does not mean anything. Bans don't represent sentiments of the masses, only some specific ideological groups that have influence over policy
In Hunza women wear same hats jewelry and dress and they work like them too
Eturgrul is educational thought-provoking and entertainment at the same time. Why don't Pakistani drama industry take note.
Hassan ignore kia krain, logon ki baton ko itna serious ni lety 😂😂😂 Amina is right jazbati ni hona😂😂😂
Yes yes logon na kuch zayada hi kr leya ha.
I totally agree with Hassan. And he clearly stated that production wise and cinematography wise it’s magnificent just like GoT. Amna sometimes it’s not important to argue for the sake of argument one should clearly understand the point of discussion.
What I feel is that actors are being irrational....when pakistan can run indian films and hollywood films in the cinemas...then why not a turkish serial that talks about the rich history of the Ottoman Empire...that talks about the rich Islamic history...it's highly irrational of actors to say that it is based on 'turkish history'..no it's not turkish history...it's the history of Muslim civilization...we as an ummah have the same history and WE NEED TO ACCEPT THIS...WE ALL ARE MUSLIMS AND MUSLIM HISTORY CANNOT BE DIVIDED INTO REGIONAL HISTORY...IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.....All in all if people have issues with the serial don't watch it but don't criticize a serial that highlights islamic morals...
P.S: I believe it's a great initiative taken by P.M to air something like that which is informative and historical...we need to know OUR ISLAMIC HEROES😄✌
Amna I like the way you put ur thoughts into words. Your observation and the related comments are commendable.
This is about ottoman empire and he is Islamic hero. So plz do not compare it with issues like why it is ban in Saudia Arabia because they have thr own grounds for that. Just appreciate the content.
Good analysis both of you, agree that people is more focused in criticising than taking the good of it. Ertugrul is a great series, and the actors should be praised for their great work instead of being bashed on their social accounts.
Congrats for the 200k subscribers :)
Government of Pakistan did an amazing job of showing Ertugrul on ptv although many of us already watched it on Netflix. Dont know why many people including our tv actors are criticizing it so much .
Amna you are spot on about the fact that there are no borders in Islam and we are all one big family.
Hello Hassan and Aamna.you both are really sweet ...I haven't seen Ertugrul yet.. neither I think I will but I completely agree with Hassan that visually it appeals to the eyes as GOT....
Sadly we are so limited mentally. As for the concerns of Ertugrul's influence on our society and culture....
a) why are we so insecure about our own culture
b) why don't we create equally good content on local heros/history
c) We can only become better humans if we are truly influenced by Ertugrul's vision, honesty, humility, kindness and empathy.
I hope and pray Ertugrul DOES leave a permanently mark on us!!
How well Amna described the point of Islam and boundaries.
Indeed, that is why it called the caliphate, the sultanate, the empire ... because it was supposed to be ruled under the umbrella of one caliph, not like each region had it's own borders , etc. etc.
In short, just enjoy the drama to the fullest and keep promoting. Epic dramas like ertugral should be appreciated no matter which region it represents ot produces. Just really fail to understand the jahalat of our qom who wants it banned .
کچھ پاکستانی دوست بار بار پوسٹ کر رہے ہیں کے ہماری تاریخ میں بھی بہت سے ہیرو ہیں ہمیں ان پر فلم بنانی چاہیے ہم ترک کی تعریف کیوں کر رہے ہیں وغیرہ وغیرہ
ان کی خدمت میں عرض ہے کہ تم اپنی تاریخ پہلے پڑھ تو لو کے تمھارے ہیرو کون ہیں کس علاقے سے آئے ہیں.
میرے لئیے تو ہر مسلمان مجاحد ہمارا ہیرو ہے چاہے ارتغرل ہو یا ابن قاسم ہو بابر ہو یا غوری.
اگر أرطغرل کے صرف ترک ہونے سے آپ کو الرجی ہے تو پھر آپ جس کو بھی ہیرو بناؤ گے وہ پاکستان یا ہندوستان کا نہیں ہوگا کیونکہ ابن قاسم عرب سے تھا باقی ہندوستان کا کوئی مسلم بادشاہ ہندوستان کا اصلی باشندہ نہیں تھا. ہم ان سے محبت اسلام کی وجہ سے کرتے ہیں. بابر پر تحقیق کرو وہ تیمور کی نسل سے تھا ازبکستان سے آیا تھا.شہاب الدین غوری افغانی تھے. سبکتگین اور ان کے بیٹے محمود غزنوی ترک تھے.جس کو بھی ہندوستان کے بادشاہوں میں سے لو گے وہ باہر سے آئے ہوں گے.
خلاصہ یہ کے مسلمان ہیروز کو تقسیم نہ کرو ہر مسلم فاتح جو اسلام کی سربلندی کے لئیے لڑا وہ ہمارا ہیرو ہے
here is my opinion about all of your today's debate i really appreciate your views about this season i have watched all 5 season of artugrul and currently watching kurulus osman series based on his son made by same director it is considered as 6th season of dilris i want to make few points about this 1. our people usually view turk as ottoman people still today and that's turks also portray in their series turk have very bad times about their culture they mixed their culture with European culture and it is still dominant
2. its a political game from recip tayyab Erdoğan too he faced alot of opposition when he was imposing some Islamic values like ending ban on hijab so its a master stroke from turk establishment too through this erdogan build soft sentiment in their people reminding them of their past
3. you mentioned saudi ban on this series turk rule most of arab world including haram sharif and Palestin the relations between arab world and turkey is declined since ottoman empire ended Egypt even made a season on ottoman war crimes whose name is kindom on fire which is flopped because story was fake so arab world opposition is expected as they were under turk who are non arabs and according to arabs great honor only arabs can lead the Muslim world so they worried about history that how can Muslims react if they see non arabs who lead Muslims world for almost 600 years
3rd point is beautiful. I agree. Arabs are the most racist people in Muslim world. All there pride is that Quran came in arab language and they think they are the most noble out there. Although its clear cut in Quran that there is no difference between arabs and non arabs. And yes turks have served islam beautifully through ottoman empire
@@noor_ul_ain7947 arabs have this pride even before the time when quran revealed because they are proud of their blood and tribes and they actually are because they are the relative of jews who have maximum prophets but its according to hadees also that a time will come when non arabs rule arabs lands that I think was the time of ottoman because prophet muhammad pbuh said that Muslim leadership will shift towards non arabs
And Hassan, it is not banned in Saudi Arabia, i am watching here on netflix in ksa.
Ertugrul Ghazi is just a story ....it is made to entertain and also gives a message to the viewers ..like most of the shows it is a full masala package ...drama,revenge,romance, betrayal, conspiracies, successes and failures....we like it because we can relate to it.... Ertugrul is a true follower of Prophet Mohammed SAW ...we like to see these people practicing the same values we’ve been taught.... I am on the 80th episode of series 3....No spoilers but there is a lot to come in the up coming episodes ...your love for the show may decrease, you might not like some of the situations, get bored , may feel that it is not possible in reality but you’ll still keep watching it. ..the makers have very carefully created a character who is flawless. ..it definitely has a political agenda behind it but let’s Just enjoy the show ..... if Shaan wants to make something which belongs to Pakistan he should by all means work at it....but can he find someone in history who actually belongs to Pakistan? Mr Prime minister why don’t you ask The Sword of Tipu Sultan which is more close to our history to be released in Pakistan ....may be because it was made in India not in Turkey .
Amna you are right ... its better to ignore negativity... hassan you skipped 100 good coments and just focused on the bad ones .... ignore these and look at the good feedback you got ... i personally loved your review on ertugrul ... "keep a soft smile on your face like ertugrul" ☺
Yaar please do come up with videos on some or the other topics, more than twice a week .. and yes you both together !!
@@noreeneff357 I didn't mean just about hot bites, I meant similar to how they were coming earlier daily. Random thing .. fun to see them so !!
I am British and completely clueless. Still, don't know what this is all about. Ignorance is bliss!
@@noreeneff357 I honestly don't want to know.
@@noreeneff357 Did you call me an animal?
@@noreeneff357 You can't judge my wisdom based on one comment.
Its just a narrarive made by some haters of imran khan who are upset that he ordered ptv to air these drama..
@@Faraaaaaz I am blank.
I do agree with you Amna we have to make something good something different as I say we had made historical dramas on PTV please do watch it
Hassan I hope you liked today’s episode of Yeh Dil Mera as it was mind blowing! 🤍 Anxiously waiting for your week in review now!