This is the best teaching/information channel I have seen. So great for us amateurs and others wanting to be better shooters/hunters. Archery is so detailed and without these kinds of videos it is nearly impossible to get this info. Thank you!
Kellen and his channel is by far the best!! Most informative, helpful channel in regards to archery. Thank you for all your help and advice for myself and so many other people
Defiantly the best stabilizer video I have come across. Explained the hand position aspect which I didn't really know much about. Just got in to a Axius about 6 months ago and have been practicing but need to get my stabilizers set up yet. Great video!
Content great as usual, no suprises in that ;) But what I want to say, that You are one of the best speakers in TH-cam archery world, from my - foreigner - perspective. It's very important for us to clearly hear what they saying and there's not a lot of this kinds of quality in such many archery vids over here. I can also mention great Brandon Mcdonald, phenomenal Chris Bee, or iron classic - John Dudley. So, keep talking and never stop :) Greetings and hugs from Eastern Europe, keep it up, man :)
I use that system on my bows .... 30 in frt +4 to 6 oz/ 15 in bk + 6 to 8 oz .... and yep does exactly that pushing grip in the hand ...... works great for me
Thanks for the great info. I am coming off shoulder surgery and hopefully being able to draw a bow back again. Last time was 11/05/20. I like how you reiterated the blank bale and the importance of it. I related it to when I train my hunting dogs. Most people when they train the want get the dogs on multiple marks and keep throwing them. The dogs start to get in a habit of flash marking, in which they glance at the first throw then start anticipating and looking for the next one. I want my dog to focus on the first mark and I just throw singles 90% of the time I do this with the pups and the finished dogs as well. So shooting the blank bales is acting like the same thing. Taking the distraction out of the picture.
You could achieve the same pressure point on your grip if you place the back bar on the lower position but remove some of yhe weights from it. This will create more forward bias heavy (bow tilt forward more) same as moving the back bars up (which actually you move it more to the front)
I've countered that pivoting by adding 1Oz on front and changing sidebars angle to re-balance the bow a little. Took couple of weeks to get extactly how i needed it to be but it is MUCH more comfortable. Also lower side bar gives a bit more stability.
Why can’t you put the link to the hats below the video like everyone else?!? I prolly would have gotten one of the hats, but not going to social media for one, that’s for sure!
Injury sucks. Been there few times. Now before and after every training I stretch, warm-up archery muscles for 10 minutes. Pretty important, when you are around 40 and not brand new like 20 yrs ago ;-)
I have a 2020 model bear paradox. Ibo is 330 fps. 32 inches axle to axle. My 1st bow. I put Trophy ridge hitman stabilizers on it wt a Apex side mount. I run two 6 inch bars I have a Qad drop away. Trophy ridge REACT h 5 site. I have it set up well. Great channel.
@@turboturtlegarage432 doesn't effect nock travel what so ever. Nock travel is just something that some cam systems have more of than others. Moving weight/position of the stabs just creates slightly different pressure/torque on the grip, which can change the tune of the bow a little
Thank you for clarifying. It may have seemed like a dense question but until I know for sure I don't count anything out. Keep your mind open if you want to learn things! Sometimes that makes you seem a little naive but hey 🤷♂️
As a fellow lefty, I watch all your videos! I'm 5'8" and draw about 27.5. I want to get into target archery and I was looking at used a Halon X Comp or used TRX 7 that can be backup for hunting bow. What do you recommend? Or any other bows?
@@InsideOutPrecision Thank you Kellen! If you are taking request for type of videos, can I ask for one that include your view and experience on how a few ATAs longer target bow can matter when trying to use target bow to hunt? There are guys that uses traditional bows at 60+ AMO. What makes 30 ATA a better choice then 38 ATA? The X Comp is only 3 inches shorter, I just cant understand why that would matter so much.
Thanks for the explanations! I keep hearing weight it till you like it. I threaded 2 triangle shaped pieces of steel and put one on the end of my octane 10" bar and one on the lower riser hole. Elite Synergy bow. I have no clue what they weigh but they are heavy. Might be 3 pounds added? It's a bit front heavy but definitely more stable. I'll try your suggestions!
Wouldn’t puttin a shorter back bar and moving the weight closer to the riser made it where the bottom wouldn’t kick out so much when the bar was on the bottom mount?
When running a 33 front & 15" back bar on the lower rear stab hole, I end up with a right tear that I can't get out of the bow. It's much better if I put the back bar on the mount with the front stabilizer. Bowtech Reckoning 38. Any ideas?
There is no 'front' of the bow; there's the face and the back. The face of the bow is the side that faces you when you're holding it to shoot. The back is the side that's facing towards the target.
This is the best teaching/information channel I have seen. So great for us amateurs and others wanting to be better shooters/hunters. Archery is so detailed and without these kinds of videos it is nearly impossible to get this info. Thank you!
Kellen and his channel is by far the best!! Most informative, helpful channel in regards to archery. Thank you for all your help and advice for myself and so many other people
Defiantly the best stabilizer video I have come across. Explained the hand position aspect which I didn't really know much about. Just got in to a Axius about 6 months ago and have been practicing but need to get my stabilizers set up yet. Great video!
You are a lot of help. One of the best at explaining everything.
Such excellant instruction! Thanks Callen.
Content great as usual, no suprises in that ;) But what I want to say, that You are one of the best speakers in TH-cam archery world, from my - foreigner - perspective. It's very important for us to clearly hear what they saying and there's not a lot of this kinds of quality in such many archery vids over here. I can also mention great Brandon Mcdonald, phenomenal Chris Bee, or iron classic - John Dudley. So, keep talking and never stop :) Greetings and hugs from Eastern Europe, keep it up, man :)
Thank you!
I use that system on my bows .... 30 in frt +4 to 6 oz/ 15 in bk + 6 to 8 oz .... and yep does exactly that pushing grip in the hand ...... works great for me
Thanks for sharing great information that can be put into practice by most if not all of us
Thanks for the great info.
I am coming off shoulder surgery and hopefully being able to draw a bow back again. Last time was 11/05/20.
I like how you reiterated the blank bale and the importance of it. I related it to when I train my hunting dogs. Most people when they train the want get the dogs on multiple marks and keep throwing them. The dogs start to get in a habit of flash marking, in which they glance at the first throw then start anticipating and looking for the next one. I want my dog to focus on the first mark and I just throw singles 90% of the time I do this with the pups and the finished dogs as well.
So shooting the blank bales is acting like the same thing. Taking the distraction out of the picture.
You could achieve the same pressure point on your grip if you place the back bar on the lower position but remove some of yhe weights from it. This will create more forward bias heavy (bow tilt forward more) same as moving the back bars up (which actually you move it more to the front)
I've countered that pivoting by adding 1Oz on front and changing sidebars angle to re-balance the bow a little. Took couple of weeks to get extactly how i needed it to be but it is MUCH more comfortable. Also lower side bar gives a bit more stability.
awesome video thanks for the info on where to start with stabilizers
Why can’t you put the link to the hats below the video like everyone else?!? I prolly would have gotten one of the hats, but not going to social media for one, that’s for sure!
Injury sucks. Been there few times. Now before and after every training I stretch, warm-up archery muscles for 10 minutes. Pretty important, when you are around 40 and not brand new like 20 yrs ago ;-)
I have a 2020 model bear paradox. Ibo is 330 fps. 32 inches axle to axle. My 1st bow. I put Trophy ridge hitman stabilizers on it wt a Apex side mount. I run two 6 inch bars I have a Qad drop away. Trophy ridge REACT h 5 site. I have it set up well. Great channel.
Thanks a lot!!
Dave Cousins says you are in changing the nock travel in your riser if you run weight off the bottom of the riser.
Dave knows his shit.
How does running weight off the bottom affect nock travel? I want to understand this better. Is it the change in grip?
@@turboturtlegarage432 doesn't effect nock travel what so ever. Nock travel is just something that some cam systems have more of than others. Moving weight/position of the stabs just creates slightly different pressure/torque on the grip, which can change the tune of the bow a little
Thank you for clarifying. It may have seemed like a dense question but until I know for sure I don't count anything out. Keep your mind open if you want to learn things! Sometimes that makes you seem a little naive but hey 🤷♂️
As a fellow lefty, I watch all your videos! I'm 5'8" and draw about 27.5. I want to get into target archery and I was looking at used a Halon X Comp or used TRX 7 that can be backup for hunting bow. What do you recommend? Or any other bows?
Trx 7 is way too big to hunt with, but the x comp would be a good cross over bow
@@InsideOutPrecision Thank you Kellen! If you are taking request for type of videos, can I ask for one that include your view and experience on how a few ATAs longer target bow can matter when trying to use target bow to hunt? There are guys that uses traditional bows at 60+ AMO. What makes 30 ATA a better choice then 38 ATA? The X Comp is only 3 inches shorter, I just cant understand why that would matter so much.
Thanks for the explanations! I keep hearing weight it till you like it. I threaded 2 triangle shaped pieces of steel and put one on the end of my octane 10" bar and one on the lower riser hole. Elite Synergy bow. I have no clue what they weigh but they are heavy. Might be 3 pounds added? It's a bit front heavy but definitely more stable. I'll try your suggestions!
Looking at adding a back bar to my VXR 28 this winter. Currently running 8” Mathews stabilizer out front, recommendations for length of a back bar?
Put that 8" stabilizer on back and get a longer one for the front or get a quivilizer. Im a fan of the quilvilizer with a back bar after one year use.
I know this is a old video, by chance do you if a Hoyt carbon spider will take a stabilizer?
Yeah every bow can
Wouldn’t puttin a shorter back bar and moving the weight closer to the riser made it where the bottom wouldn’t kick out so much when the bar was on the bottom mount?
Yeah, but it moves the moment of inertia closer to the bow, which doesn't help with stabilization
@@InsideOutPrecision aaaaaahhhhhh I gotcha, THANKS for all the great content!!!
I can't get my front arm to stay high so i end up needing to lift lift my arm from the lowest target to the highest, how do i fix that?
When running a 33 front & 15" back bar on the lower rear stab hole, I end up with a right tear that I can't get out of the bow. It's much better if I put the back bar on the mount with the front stabilizer. Bowtech Reckoning 38. Any ideas?
Did you already try shifting the cams to the right?
@@InsideOutPrecision Yes, I already moved them almost as far right as they would go.
Shit i only get too shoot 1 time a week if I am lucky but that will change when I get my house can't wait
Why TH-cam! You already gave me the notification!
👍👍👍👍👍👍
There is no 'front' of the bow; there's the face and the back. The face of the bow is the side that faces you when you're holding it to shoot. The back is the side that's facing towards the target.
Okay well I’m pretty sure people understood what I was talking about haha.