Vanya litteraly deserved to be angry at her family, for first not allowing her to be herself and learn to control her powers, for wiping out her memories to make her "normal", resulting in her being treated as an outcast, and then treating her like a monster because the consequences of their actions backfired on them
@@jcfra420 she was a kid at the time she probably had no idea how she was handling her powers. Even if they were trying to conceal her powers, it still doesn’t excuse the massive neglect she experienced.
@@naran3337 The WHOLE POINT of the show, was that ALL of them were basically abused. But you didn't them murdering a bunch of people because they didn't like oatmeal. Honestly, after the 2nd woman, they should have just put her down. Vanya was always sociopathic
Why do some people hate her? I was so satisfied when she embraced her power and turned against her family. They got what they deserved for what they did to her. If Klaus wouldn’t take drugs he would destroy the world as well
I think Luther treated her the most harshly. Diego was mean at times but didn't hate her. Allison was harsh in some scenes but evidently cared about her the most. I don't think I can recall Five and Klaus ever being mean or harsh to her. Ben made a remark about her not having powers but he was too young to be taken seriously that time. In conclusion Luther treated her the worst among the siblings.
Vanya is a interesting character because she seems to be easily one of the most powerful characters and didn't seem to have control over her powers at all which made her dangerous but she also got treated like crap for being "normal" afterwards I admire her for attacking her siblings killing pogo however is unforgivable
No parece, ES el personaje más poderoso, mucho más poderoso que alguien que manipula la realidad, más poderoso que alguien que viaja en el tiempo, y mucho más poderoso que alguien que trae criaturas de otras dimensiones. Y su poder para mí es algo muy original, algo muy peligroso si llegara a descubrir las cosas inimaginables que puede llegar a hacer
@@detodounpoco-gd3vs I mean he did kinda no diff them all and if he used his true power or was actually trying no one could actually touch her with the possible exception of five or two’s girlfriend because 5 could possibly kill her in the past and 2’s girlfriend could copy 7’s power and counter it.
@@redlightning9272 matarla en el pasado no parece ser una buena idea, y lila aunque copiara el poder de viktor no tiene el mismo impacto, así que sería algo que viktor usaría a su favor, en fin, lila sería las más poderosa por el hecho de que estuvo entrenando toda su vida, tanto poder como físicamente, pero en cuanto viktor tenga el entrenamiento necesario y sepa sobre lo que puede llegar a hacer... Lila terminará muerta en el suelo.
pogo knew and was complicit and did nothing when vanya got years and years of abuse from reginald. he was a wise monkey but he very mush was part of the problem when it came to vanya/viktor
Almost everybody in the comment section seems to ignore that when Vanya first discovered her power the power took control of her, I don't think she was totally aware of what she was doing. I think the more powerful she becomes the more she loses control over what she's doing unless she learns eventually.
Cuando tiene esa plática con su "yo del pasado" está le pide que acepte lo que son y que deje salir todo ese poder que vive en el. Y así pasa, viktor le dio acceso al violín blanco para poseerlo y vengarse de sus hermanos por todo lo que le hicieron. Dándole un punto final a toda su vida de miseria.
@@phantom_servant7980 s1 uncontrol vanya is OP... S3 vicktor had some control but like only 20% of his s1 powers....slight noise and she can use tht noise to slice through you....we didnt see victor did this.....he even lose to a gravitation/Telekinesis girl... He could've solo sparow academy lmao
@@phantom_servant7980 la mayor parte de sus escenas usando sus poderes siempre son ondas de sonido un poco más controladas, pero ¿Es todo lo que puede hacer viktor? No. No pudimos ver más allá de eso, como la manipulación de la materia, de la gravedad, el control del clima, la absorción de la energía vital (con esto fácilmente vence a todos los sparrows en segundos) etc, estuvo muy nerfeado la verdad.
@@rexarc2477 si perdió contra sloane, es porque toda la academia llegó a los sparrows heridos y cansados, por eso los vencieron fácilmente, además de ahí ninguno sabía que podían hacer o al menos su forma de luchar. Pero si viktor hubiera estado al 100% descansado los sparrows ya estarían muertos
Boom? He ended the world in season 2 via explosion to. And the reason his powers got reduced it due the fact he learnt to control it better. Unless Viktor is trying to we're not getting the moon destroyed any time soon.
@@Bubblesonaplate I'm pretty sure Viktor doesn't wanna end the world a third time lmao. I'm glad he's learned to control it, especially in season 3 when he tried to make peace with Harlan in his power exchange! Viktor has been my favorite since season 1, can't wait for more!
supongo que es porque no tiene el violin, podria decirse que era como su canalizador, Victor tiene que usar el sonido del ambiente, lluvia, gritos, disparos, cualquier cosa, y eso es bastante caotico, por lo que solo puede crear esas explosiones, pero el violin es algo en lo que ella puede enfocarse en su totalidad, un solo sonido constante que ella puede usar, por lo que es mas preciso con ello, como por ejemplo el rayo destructor de lunas
Blame Netflix and them cutting the budget for s3. The vfx in s3 sucks at times. But I wish they were more creative with his power, it’s almost limitless.
I think the implications they’ve tried to hunt at is there’s always sound like if there’s even a light breeze that has a sound he can harness that into energy it doesn’t have to be this big overture. Especially with Harlan talking about everything having it’s own sound beneath the sounds of the world. Viktor is incredibly powerful but I think he’s also very scared of that power and uses it sparingly.
s1 tore down the hargreeves mansion with probably just her telekinesis, s3 wave of energy just blow up the sparrows with little injury and no visible damage to the structure. I hope they brought back the violin to help her channel his sound attack her alias was literally called white violin.
@@gylannicarrington5187 also, we've seen him build up enough power to blow up the fucking moon. You'd be terrified of going all out if you knew that could be the result.
I loved Vanya. She was so outcast by everyone. Considering she went through that, they deserved everything she did to them. She is literally the epitome of a comeback after being the black sheep
Pogo didn’t deserve it however, it is not shown in the show but in the comics he comforts her after she had a run to her room in tears. I see him as the father Reginald could have been if he was a good man.
It was so ironic that the more the umbrella academy tried to help stop Viktor, the more they brought the end closer and closer. Think about it if they just left him alone, none of this would’ve happened. He probably would’ve calm down at the safe house if Alison left like asked, and then apologised and came to a mense🤣💀
The irony of how especially Diego, Luther and Allison treated him. Diego constantly belittled tf out of him believing he had no powers and kept him out of the family. Luther repeating the same thing his father did to him when he placed him in isolation on the moon, and now Allison chastising Viktor for keeping Harlan alive, when it wasn’t personal or intentional, let alone justifying everything she’s been through as a way for killing him.
@@coltonkleins I’m talking about Harlan killing the Umbrella’s birth mothers, he didn’t kill them w intention or bcuz it was personal. Allison killed Harlan bcuz he killed her birth mother in the new timeline, which made her and her daughter non existent
@@blackhearted_af her daughter wouldn't exist anyways lol. Reggie didn't want to choose the same Academy he met in '61 so who knows where Allison would've grown up. The chances of her meeting her husband in the exact same way and having the exact same child are practically 0.
@@a_person4742 All I’m saying was that, Allison killing Harlan wouldn’t have fixed anything. You’re right to say her daughter wouldn’t have existed regardless, considering Reginald got to know them in the 60s and believing he made a mistake and how fucked up they became, he chose another group of babies.
My god Of Viktor possesses this many abilities in his powers then he sure could have wipe the floors off those sparrows all on his own, just like how Superman did with Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Aquaman and Batman.
If only Reginald Hargreeves educated Viktor more about Physics, he'll be more powerful. I doubt his powers is just limited with sound. I think he can control all kinds of waves. And with the Wave-Particle duality of matter, he may even be able to manipulate matter.
@@theneet9528 Indeed, sound waves can't travel in space. I'm thinking what Vanya released that destroyed the moon is a form of electromagnetic wave. 6:24, that visible glow can't be sound waves, it has to be from the electromagnetic spectrum.
No solo es sonido, el podría destruir y usar sus poderes incluso en el espacio. Porque cada planeta emite un sonido que con ayuda de ondas electromagnéticas se vuelven ondas sonoras que el puede utilizar a su favor. La materia ya es algo que el manipula, utiliza ondas sonoras para moldear los átomos de cualquier objeto, cambiando por completo su composición. Un ejemplo de esto es cuando materializó su arco a su mano cuando le cortó la garganta a Allison. Y cuando hizo que tanto su traje como instrumento cambiaran de color. Solo necesita saber más sobre esa habilidad y posiblemente también podría hacerlo con personas.
@@danielorlovaquinn viktor en ningún momento los busco o los atacó. Fue cuando Diego y luther quisieron interrumpir su concierto cuando viktor empezó a defenderse. Cómo siempre, las acciones imprudentes y estúpidas de sus hermanos lo arruinan todo.
One thing I’ll never understand is when the family put vanya in the box in the basement why didn’t Klaus immediately object? He knows first hand what it’s like to be forcefully confined inside a place just because of uncontrollable powers. I mean I know klaus is mostly comedic relief in S1 but still I thought he could have spoken up… everyone else reaction was normal given their characters.
100 percent the best character imo I loved how she went so unnoticed and ignored and then all of a sudden everyone realizes she’s actually the most powerful
Something I hope the writers pick up on, all of this happened less than a month from the events of Umbrella Academy, in Season 3, Allison is unforgivable.
possibly unpopular opinion: vanya's actions are definitely understandable, and there are certain things she definitely didn't mean to do. her family and society traumatized the shit out of her, and she never learned to control her powers and emotions correctly because of her shitbag of a father. her outbursts are completely understandable when you take into consideration how long she's been bottling shit up and suppressing her feelings and her powers. and she never meant to seriously hurt anyone until she snapped at the end, and even then it makes sense because her siblings hurt her so badly, and her causing the apocalypse wasn't intentional because allison shot her and caused her energy to be misdirected. however it doesn't excuse her actions, and i definitely think she shouldn't have done what she did. trauma is a bitch though so i understand why. tldr; trauma is a bitch and i understand why she did the things she did, unintentional or not, but i'm not excusing her actions because a lot of them were pretty horrible.
Yes! Some nuance. Viktor's trauma is an explanation. NOT an excuse. The siblings didn't "deserve" to be treated this way, and conversely, Viktor didn't "deserve" to be hurt in that way.
Speaking from someone who has this form of personal trauma, not to the extent of the show but still, I after many years of consideration come back to this single truth. Just because you've had bad things happen to you does not justify you doing bad things. Many reasons why. Not just because it's morally wrong to hurt others because you're in pain. But you personally and emotionally die. You lose yourself amongst the chaos, the pain, regret, guilt, unfairness. If you go down that path. Yes, you are justified for wanting to get pay back towards those that hurt you. But at the cost of the parts of you that you love? The one they determined wasn't worth respect in the first place? It's tricky to navigate, but be diligent. You don't know what you're losing till after you break it yourself.
Vanya/Viktor gets a ton of hate but people dont even think about all the crap they went through. Abused, neglected, medicated, and outcasted her whole life, All to discover the ENORMOUS amount of power she had inside of her. Paired with the intense emotions she was feeling, you can't really blame her for going crazy. You don't get mad at a bomb for blowing up after you kick it around, and i can guarantee anyone in her position would react the exact same way😂 the more power, the more chance of corruption and power madness.
I don’t get why they made Viktor’s powers just glow blue and shoot blue energy in the newer seasons, the first season was so much more interesting and aesthetically pleasing. He’s hardly the white violin anymore now that he turns into a smurf every time he uses his powers
Los poderes de viktor en cada temporada evolucionan más, el blanco luminoso cambio a un azul celeste intenso, pero en tonos claros. Y de hecho desde la temporada 1 se ven esos matices azules.
Tbf that's kinda the point. He never learned to control his powers and emotions as a kid like the rest did thus doesn't as an adult. Both the apocalypses were cause by Viktor having major emotional meltdowns. He'd had to have an arc like Klaus did this season to fully be able to control their power outside of tense emotional situations.
I absolutely love it when he was tethering his brothers with his power and wasting away their life force. They've been so cruel to him his entire life and I can't blame him for going bat shit crazy.
Sería demasiado poder, todos ellos bien locos verdad jaja, pero serían imparables, viktor destruye al planeta entero y Wanda crearía una realidad, y jean podría volver a construir todo.
Vanya is scary powerful. I’d like to see the calculations on how much energy you have to produce with sound to reduce to center of the moon to a molten core and blow the whole thing to chunks. Like, I’m just smart enough to grasp how fucking crazy that is. Vanya is easy producing more power than every nuke ever created.
I see a lot of people saying Viktor had a right to act the way he did and I agree however Viktor has always acted like this, he literally killed his babysitters. Elliot did a amazing job playing Viktor though and Viktor in s2 is a lot healthier Edit- I fixed pronouns and Name, I have not watched season 3 yet
I hope they brought back the violin at s4. She was heavily nerfed after season 1, what happened to the character where a single note from his violin can blow up a person or a building
@@exoticus1234 ask the writers and directors why they depowered her so bad. I mean they completely disregard him using a violin, that's basically his mjollnir to channel his power.
@@eldeuls1237 i think this can be explained by him most likely being afraid of his powers. i mean... hes ended the world twice so... id be scared of them too lol. plus in season 3 they expand on his powers more so there isnt really a huge need for the violin anymore. as much as i love how his powers look in season 1 (aka the best) i understand why they are toned down in the newest season.
unpopular opinion: i get that she had a sick, twisted and horrible past, but that does not justify her actions. im not saying that she should have turned out righteous and oozing goodness, i totally understand how the trauma has shaped her and made her do the (albeit annoying and self-centred) things she does, but what I hate the most is how people (us audiences in the real world) idolise her and feel empowered by her power. it pains me that younger audiences will look at her and be all "wow, she's so heroic for overcoming adversity". what she did at the end, was not being "powerful", it was losing control. it was forsaking all responsibility and becoming a threat to society.
i kind of think that her trauma and eventual retaliation against her families actions is kind of the point of her character. the entire plot is based around her causing these horrible things, but her family was the ones that pushed her to this point, so in a sense it all kind of trails back to them. it really is their fault, which is also why they can't really hold vanya responsible since she never would've done these things had she been loved or treated well by her family.
That's what I've noticed in the younger side of Gen-Z. They believe that trauma justifies everything, and all actions done because of that trauma is the fault of the person who caused the trauma. It's a victim mindset.
well, i mean. the only reaso9n she caused the apocalypse in the first season, you know. Destroying the moon and killing a lot of people, is because her family attacked her while she was performing at a concert because they felt justified in doing so.
@@laurenceedward5910 That's a very one sided way of saying "Vanya was putting thousands in danger, so the Umbrella Academy felt the need to stop her because they thought she was going to end the world." And Vanya murdered someone because they beeped at her for standing in the middle of the road. They were justified.
But what if society became a threat to you, because in a way the people she was raised with caused this when there were so many chance for they to take a different root. If anything it should show and teach real life people to be kind to people and come from a place of understanding instead Instant judgment. If Luke would have emotional been there for her the ending would be completely different. It’s like if you gave baby bambi a machine. That’s how I view vanya. I thinks he gets a pass. If anything it’s the people or “society” that needs to change their way of treating people. My golden rule is be kind.
She stopped playing violin and acting the character when the actor came out. Was it truly necessary? The violin is the most important part of Vanya's life...it is where her powers have shown and grew.
if the wouldn't have treated her so bad and hidden her power, she could have learned to control it, and wouldn't cause such a disaster. I can't really blame her entirely
I Hope Viktor uses his powers more like in Season one with the main focus being more having to generate Sound to use his Energy powers and focusing them Through his Violin would be really cool to see that again 😊👍
It's interesting how they completely forgot what the purpose of that room originally was. it was to keep outside sound from interfering. does nothing to stop sound originating inside the room
El búnker estaba construido para que ningún sonido del exterior fuera escuchado, pero dentro tampoco había sonido. ¿Tienes idea de lo desesperante que era para viktor no escuchar nada? Literalmente al no saber sobre sus poderes era incapaz de sentir su corazón o al menos su respiración.
@@detodounpoco-gd3vs Yeah. I understand what you mean (google translate gave me a good enough idea). But what I meant was that nothing in that room was designed to stop sound that was already in the room, only to stop outside sound getting in. He could hear his heartbeat, it's what he used as a source of sound
@@zionnemakoma1398 si, pero al ser una lugar donde el sonido simplemente no existe, podía escuchar hasta su sangre correr en sus venas todo de el podía escucharlo al final y los latidos de su corazón fueron suficientes para sacarlo de ahí.
Anyone else LOVE this show? I’ve been watching this show soooo much I finished the whole 1 season in less than a week. My favorite character is Eliot page the one who plays vanya
@@brandonhitcoln2814 still, looking at the real world for a past interview u wouldnt put his deadname would u? Thats just pure disrespect Just putting it out there
@@keep.coolscenes también lo puede transformar en luz. Y gracias a eso es capaz de manipular la materia (posiblemente deformarla), controlar o manipular el clima, absorber la vida y fuerza vital de las personas(aunque nosé si esto es también conectado al absorber sonido), darles poderes a los que el desea manteniendo una conexión telepatica con ellos(sin mencionar que es inmune a los ataques que sean dirigidos por su propio poder cuando esa persona con la que lo comparte quiere hacerle daño) entre otras otras cosas que tiene que ver con la mente. Sin duda viktor es superior.
I mean give a shine to others. For me i’m glad that they did justice to Klaus in S3 not just talking to dead/ghost people. I’m happy he embrace his ability. Vanya ruled S1 and S2 tho.
@@kewl_ same with Allison tbh and obviously there's a load of new characters so vanya just wasn't even close to the main focus but even then... he is a fully developed character ar this point so there isn't much to do with Viktor.
I love Elliot Page and I'm really happy that they accepted him for who he is, but it bothers me a little that they changed the name of the character "VANYA" to "Victor" considering that his name was related to his power: sound waves that came out of his VIOLIN. Even in the comics you can see how during the orchestra his body was transformed into a shape similar to one.
I thought his birth name was chosen symbolically as it was a codename of the Tsar Bomba (the most powerful weapon ever created by humanity). And maybe the renaming in Season 3 was also bcs he stopped being a bomb during Season 2's finale (and the previous name was no longer needed, apart from as well showing that trans people very often change their name after coming out). I don't know how the "Vanya"/"Ivan" name has anything to do with violins. My personal theory, that in TUA it has more to do with his god-like powers (the name IRL literally has God in its meaning, while it's very subtle, it could be a genius move by Gerard Way)
I liked more when they made the powers kinda invisible to resemble more soundwaves and the full white when in full charge of the powers, they turned it into Human Torch like ever since absorbed Harlan power
I'm glad that Vanya wasn't turned into the true villain after that. It would be heart-broken to see family members stepping on each other. I had it too enough with Dynasty =))
Could someone remind me why his powers color went from white to orange as the seasons progressed. I know in the comics he is (well she is cuz comics) known as the white violinist or something close right, was this change ever mentioned in the show?
Being a living superweapon doesn't make him a "villian" per se (in Season 1). It wasn't his fault that the other siblings f-d up, but that's just because they didn't knew the details until it was too late. But it all goes back to Reginald (and his 4D chess grand plan), that he purposefully didn't trained Number Seven to control his powers prematurely. The only downside is that he was possessed back then (probably even voluntarily), and didn't understand that he was about to wipe out the human race (either by creating massive shockwave, that probably was originally happened before Five's arrival to the post-apocalyptic world, or by shattering the Moon). But that's no excuse still, even during all of this he didn't mind to kill random innocent people (that one car driver, and the audience in the concert where he unleashed a force wave "out of defense mechanism") or to suck out life force out of his siblings (even if they were going to knock him out, if that would meant saving the world from him).
@user-yy5di3qg5u Hargreaves never let the others know bout Victor's powers. So it's valid. However having known about it, they weren't there to support him. They pushed him, hid him and triggered the trauma and hatred that he grew to have for their father. The most fucked up and safely fucked up among them is Allison. Victor was never taught to control his powers, yet he did in further seasons with help.
I personally don't hate the character myself; but just like the fellow siblings who ganged up on them- I can absolutely understand why some hate the character.
Vanya was cool and all, great powers and cool story. But regardless of her horrid childhood she still technically committed manslaughter on trillions of lifeforms so I don't thing she gets a pass for committing genocide. Elliot still did good doe, 10/10 do recommend.
But they would have never happened if her powers and emotion were never compressed as a child. Keep in mind she found her emotion “safety” from Leonard so. Vanya gets a pass.
In the second season she isn’t going off the rails she find safety with the correct people surrounded in the correct environment. It’s only when toxic people comes around when negativity things happen. That’s what I’ve noticed. The siblings learned to emotional be there for each other in season 2 and the end of the world is once again cause by THE PEOPLE with toxic reason of pushing vanya to the edge. So at the end of the day maybe it isn’t her but just the people. Every single action we do or put out towards people will forever matter. My golden rule is be kind.
Let's be honest. Luther and Diego are mostly useless. They're the weakest of all 7 and also the least intelligent ones. They treated Vanya like trash and yet everyone just forget the fact they cause the most trouble throughout the story. (Diego is the main troublemaker)
I dont remember the gorila guys name since i never really liked him and its been some time since I watched the show anyways if you want to hate someone hate him, he was the one who pressed the bottom that set off the bomb and the whole family created the bomb. Vania did nothing wrong and you cant change my mind (speaking of season1)
So did the nannies, the random guy honking his car horn, the random guy/girl taking their last meal, the random person taking their last shower, the random parent saying one last good bye to her kids before leaving to work. She did all of that, twice
@@TheFlyingFish692 like i said she did nothing wrong, all the nanies and killing inside the house as a kid were her father's foult. and after she went rogue (indulged by their siblings) the killings still are on the family
@@sebastyann123 Jesus u are despicable. Just because she had a bad childhood doesn’t justify her killing people. The blood is still on her hands it doesn’t matter who pushed her to it she still committed murder
@@sebastyann123plus her siblings didn’t even know she had powers plus they didn’t even physically or really mentally abuse her they just ignore her and didn’t want to hang out with her.
•Watch All Powers & Fight Scenes of Viktor from season 2: th-cam.com/video/hF1ckXojUNQ/w-d-xo.html
Dude straight up melts the moon from the inside with the power of music
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Si, quién diría que un violín crearía la sinfonía del Apocalipsis.
THE HILLS ARE ALIVE WITH THE SOUND OF MUSICCC
not a dude. shes a girl
@@ultraviolet.xI love that movie-
Vanya litteraly deserved to be angry at her family, for first not allowing her to be herself and learn to control her powers, for wiping out her memories to make her "normal", resulting in her being treated as an outcast, and then treating her like a monster because the consequences of their actions backfired on them
Ah yes, she should have been allowed to control her powers as she murdered nannie after nannie because she didn't like the food lol.
@@jcfra420 she was a kid at the time she probably had no idea how she was handling her powers. Even if they were trying to conceal her powers, it still doesn’t excuse the massive neglect she experienced.
@@naran3337 omg whatever man....simp much?
@@jcfra420 lol I’m not a simp for Vanya, I’m just stating the facts.
@@naran3337 The WHOLE POINT of the show, was that ALL of them were basically abused. But you didn't them murdering a bunch of people because they didn't like oatmeal. Honestly, after the 2nd woman, they should have just put her down. Vanya was always sociopathic
Why do some people hate her? I was so satisfied when she embraced her power and turned against her family. They got what they deserved for what they did to her. If Klaus wouldn’t take drugs he would destroy the world as well
Cause some humans are idiots and have no empathy for anyone but themselves
If that make sense
@@Trendyhen-yc9kx that's a sad way to put it
I think Luther treated her the most harshly. Diego was mean at times but didn't hate her. Allison was harsh in some scenes but evidently cared about her the most. I don't think I can recall Five and Klaus ever being mean or harsh to her. Ben made a remark about her not having powers but he was too young to be taken seriously that time.
In conclusion Luther treated her the worst among the siblings.
Because a sad past doesnt give u a pass to be a fucking killer. She is a monster. Must be put down. the whole fucking family actually
Vanya is a interesting character because she seems to be easily one of the most powerful characters and didn't seem to have control over her powers at all which made her dangerous but she also got treated like crap for being "normal" afterwards I admire her for attacking her siblings killing pogo however is unforgivable
No parece, ES el personaje más poderoso, mucho más poderoso que alguien que manipula la realidad, más poderoso que alguien que viaja en el tiempo, y mucho más poderoso que alguien que trae criaturas de otras dimensiones. Y su poder para mí es algo muy original, algo muy peligroso si llegara a descubrir las cosas inimaginables que puede llegar a hacer
@@detodounpoco-gd3vs I mean he did kinda no diff them all and if he used his true power or was actually trying no one could actually touch her with the possible exception of five or two’s girlfriend because 5 could possibly kill her in the past and 2’s girlfriend could copy 7’s power and counter it.
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@@redlightning9272 matarla en el pasado no parece ser una buena idea, y lila aunque copiara el poder de viktor no tiene el mismo impacto, así que sería algo que viktor usaría a su favor, en fin, lila sería las más poderosa por el hecho de que estuvo entrenando toda su vida, tanto poder como físicamente, pero en cuanto viktor tenga el entrenamiento necesario y sepa sobre lo que puede llegar a hacer... Lila terminará muerta en el suelo.
pogo knew and was complicit and did nothing when vanya got years and years of abuse from reginald. he was a wise monkey but he very mush was part of the problem when it came to vanya/viktor
Almost everybody in the comment section seems to ignore that when Vanya first discovered her power the power took control of her, I don't think she was totally aware of what she was doing. I think the more powerful she becomes the more she loses control over what she's doing unless she learns eventually.
Cuando tiene esa plática con su "yo del pasado" está le pide que acepte lo que son y que deje salir todo ese poder que vive en el. Y así pasa, viktor le dio acceso al violín blanco para poseerlo y vengarse de sus hermanos por todo lo que le hicieron. Dándole un punto final a toda su vida de miseria.
Season 3 shows him having complete control of her powers but he hasn't completely learned how to use it properly
@@phantom_servant7980 s1 uncontrol vanya is OP... S3 vicktor had some control but like only 20% of his s1 powers....slight noise and she can use tht noise to slice through you....we didnt see victor did this.....he even lose to a gravitation/Telekinesis girl... He could've solo sparow academy lmao
@@phantom_servant7980 la mayor parte de sus escenas usando sus poderes siempre son ondas de sonido un poco más controladas, pero ¿Es todo lo que puede hacer viktor? No. No pudimos ver más allá de eso, como la manipulación de la materia, de la gravedad, el control del clima, la absorción de la energía vital (con esto fácilmente vence a todos los sparrows en segundos) etc, estuvo muy nerfeado la verdad.
@@rexarc2477 si perdió contra sloane, es porque toda la academia llegó a los sparrows heridos y cansados, por eso los vencieron fácilmente, además de ahí ninguno sabía que podían hacer o al menos su forma de luchar.
Pero si viktor hubiera estado al 100% descansado los sparrows ya estarían muertos
I wish we could see more of Viktor’s powers displayed in this manner. Season 2 and 3 pretty much reduced his powers to “stuff go boom”
Boom?
He ended the world in season 2 via explosion to. And the reason his powers got reduced it due the fact he learnt to control it better.
Unless Viktor is trying to we're not getting the moon destroyed any time soon.
Estoy de acuerdo, viktor tiene tanto potencial y habilidades por descubrir. Su poder puede que no solo se base en sonido.
@@Bubblesonaplate I'm pretty sure Viktor doesn't wanna end the world a third time lmao.
I'm glad he's learned to control it, especially in season 3 when he tried to make peace with Harlan in his power exchange! Viktor has been my favorite since season 1, can't wait for more!
supongo que es porque no tiene el violin, podria decirse que era como su canalizador, Victor tiene que usar el sonido del ambiente, lluvia, gritos, disparos, cualquier cosa, y eso es bastante caotico, por lo que solo puede crear esas explosiones, pero el violin es algo en lo que ella puede enfocarse en su totalidad, un solo sonido constante que ella puede usar, por lo que es mas preciso con ello, como por ejemplo el rayo destructor de lunas
Blame Netflix and them cutting the budget for s3. The vfx in s3 sucks at times. But I wish they were more creative with his power, it’s almost limitless.
I miss the times like this when Viktor's powers actually had something to do with music and sound. Now it's just stupid energy bursts with blue light.
they nerfed him so hard
The boss when you fight them vs. The boss when you recruit them
I think the implications they’ve tried to hunt at is there’s always sound like if there’s even a light breeze that has a sound he can harness that into energy it doesn’t have to be this big overture. Especially with Harlan talking about everything having it’s own sound beneath the sounds of the world. Viktor is incredibly powerful but I think he’s also very scared of that power and uses it sparingly.
s1 tore down the hargreeves mansion with probably just her telekinesis, s3 wave of energy just blow up the sparrows with little injury and no visible damage to the structure. I hope they brought back the violin to help her channel his sound attack her alias was literally called white violin.
@@gylannicarrington5187 also, we've seen him build up enough power to blow up the fucking moon. You'd be terrified of going all out if you knew that could be the result.
I’m glad he did this role. He killed it!!
I thought “he” identified as they
@@mickellnaylor1052 He identifies as both
Wonder how that’s going to work in future seasons.
He who
@@hakohito Elliot Page
I loved Vanya. She was so outcast by everyone. Considering she went through that, they deserved everything she did to them. She is literally the epitome of a comeback after being the black sheep
Idk about Klaus he wasn't as bad as a person
Pogo didn’t deserve it however, it is not shown in the show but in the comics he comforts her after she had a run to her room in tears. I see him as the father Reginald could have been if he was a good man.
She murdered nannies for
Not liking their cooking wtf do you mean
@@ljevans3156HE was a kid and didn’t know how bad his actions actually were DUH!🤦♀️
@@benelz8542 She
Normalize blaming Luther for triggering Vanya ending the world... TWICE!
I absolutely HATED Luther for doing Vanya dirty,nliterally wanted him to die 🤣🤣
I think I'm confused how did he destroy the world twice? I know the first one in the first season. Which is the second tho?
@@Keaka. by being annoying af
@@baojiemu4824 Huh????
@@Keaka. the American embassy thought Viktor was a Russian spy so it caused a war then doomsday. I don't know if I'm right cuz I forgot
I really hope he has a violin-playing scene at least once in season 4. One of the coolest parts of the show imo, and it was only in season 1. :(
You’d be so disappointed
@@liam148 i *am* so disappointed
@@dogpond12fan15 same buddy.. same
This did not age well.
It was so ironic that the more the umbrella academy tried to help stop Viktor, the more they brought the end closer and closer. Think about it if they just left him alone, none of this would’ve happened. He probably would’ve calm down at the safe house if Alison left like asked, and then apologised and came to a mense🤣💀
The irony of how especially Diego, Luther and Allison treated him. Diego constantly belittled tf out of him believing he had no powers and kept him out of the family. Luther repeating the same thing his father did to him when he placed him in isolation on the moon, and now Allison chastising Viktor for keeping Harlan alive, when it wasn’t personal or intentional, let alone justifying everything she’s been through as a way for killing him.
No lies said
Viktor keeping Harlan alive is definitely personal, the hell you talking about? 😂😂
@@coltonkleins I’m talking about Harlan killing the Umbrella’s birth mothers, he didn’t kill them w intention or bcuz it was personal. Allison killed Harlan bcuz he killed her birth mother in the new timeline, which made her and her daughter non existent
@@blackhearted_af her daughter wouldn't exist anyways lol. Reggie didn't want to choose the same Academy he met in '61 so who knows where Allison would've grown up. The chances of her meeting her husband in the exact same way and having the exact same child are practically 0.
@@a_person4742 All I’m saying was that, Allison killing Harlan wouldn’t have fixed anything. You’re right to say her daughter wouldn’t have existed regardless, considering Reginald got to know them in the 60s and believing he made a mistake and how fucked up they became, he chose another group of babies.
Elliot did a great job portraying Vanya
Yeah. They really picked great actors for the show. Can't wait for s3
Yeah we know it was ellen at the time this came out no need to point out the change
@@nateluthor4643 for some reason i don't feel comfortable dead naming him
@@nateluthor4643 that’s his dead name. don’t be disrespectful
Sheesh bunch of snowflakes some people are. The guy didn't say anything disrespectful at all
My god Of Viktor possesses this many abilities in his powers then he sure could have wipe the floors off those sparrows all on his own, just like how Superman did with Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, Aquaman and Batman.
If only Reginald Hargreeves educated Viktor more about Physics, he'll be more powerful. I doubt his powers is just limited with sound. I think he can control all kinds of waves. And with the Wave-Particle duality of matter, he may even be able to manipulate matter.
How she destroy the moon if sound cant travel in space?
@@theneet9528 Indeed, sound waves can't travel in space. I'm thinking what Vanya released that destroyed the moon is a form of electromagnetic wave. 6:24, that visible glow can't be sound waves, it has to be from the electromagnetic spectrum.
@@theneet9528 No he transform vibration into light energy/ energy in general, that’s his power
@@reisgrimery3372 oic
No solo es sonido, el podría destruir y usar sus poderes incluso en el espacio. Porque cada planeta emite un sonido que con ayuda de ondas electromagnéticas se vuelven ondas sonoras que el puede utilizar a su favor.
La materia ya es algo que el manipula, utiliza ondas sonoras para moldear los átomos de cualquier objeto, cambiando por completo su composición. Un ejemplo de esto es cuando materializó su arco a su mano cuando le cortó la garganta a Allison. Y cuando hizo que tanto su traje como instrumento cambiaran de color. Solo necesita saber más sobre esa habilidad y posiblemente también podría hacerlo con personas.
Yk, for a show, the cgi was pretty impressing
Yeah
Thats because they waste millions per episode
lol they only had 10 episodes
i wasn't on board with destroying the world but attacking the siblings, that seemed fair.
well it was unintentional
Eh destroying the world was a bit much but attacking the siblings? Eh
@@danielorlovaquinn viktor en ningún momento los busco o los atacó. Fue cuando Diego y luther quisieron interrumpir su concierto cuando viktor empezó a defenderse. Cómo siempre, las acciones imprudentes y estúpidas de sus hermanos lo arruinan todo.
One thing I’ll never understand is when the family put vanya in the box in the basement why didn’t Klaus immediately object? He knows first hand what it’s like to be forcefully confined inside a place just because of uncontrollable powers.
I mean I know klaus is mostly comedic relief in S1 but still I thought he could have spoken up… everyone else reaction was normal given their characters.
Klaus did object? He even understood viktors sudden overwhelming amount of power
we need viktor to bring back the violin asap
100 percent the best character imo I loved how she went so unnoticed and ignored and then all of a sudden everyone realizes she’s actually the most powerful
Elliot really owned this role! I hope he comes back for the next season.. It won’t be the same without them!
Are they gonna make vanya trans if the actor wants to play for another season? Or is the actor going to have to play as her original female self
@@thereaper6754 apparently they were considering it but decided not to.
@@christianschoff2490 they just should stay with vanya because its just weird also having a new name actor name
@@junior_583 They are.
He is! He’s going to play Viktor Hargreeves
Vanya's powers are beautiful but also dangerous
True
Shes literally the sound version of Carrie 😱🎶🎶
Something I hope the writers pick up on, all of this happened less than a month from the events of Umbrella Academy, in Season 3, Allison is unforgivable.
No all the members besides five spent at least a year in 1960 before being reunited
@@kysdie9979 Viktor too, Viktor spent his life in Dallas since 1963 (the month before the apocalypse, can't remember the exact date)
but like how hot and sexy of you to change that title
I know this is a year old but I’m obsessed with this comment
So true
possibly unpopular opinion: vanya's actions are definitely understandable, and there are certain things she definitely didn't mean to do. her family and society traumatized the shit out of her, and she never learned to control her powers and emotions correctly because of her shitbag of a father. her outbursts are completely understandable when you take into consideration how long she's been bottling shit up and suppressing her feelings and her powers. and she never meant to seriously hurt anyone until she snapped at the end, and even then it makes sense because her siblings hurt her so badly, and her causing the apocalypse wasn't intentional because allison shot her and caused her energy to be misdirected. however it doesn't excuse her actions, and i definitely think she shouldn't have done what she did. trauma is a bitch though so i understand why.
tldr; trauma is a bitch and i understand why she did the things she did, unintentional or not, but i'm not excusing her actions because a lot of them were pretty horrible.
Yes! Some nuance. Viktor's trauma is an explanation. NOT an excuse. The siblings didn't "deserve" to be treated this way, and conversely, Viktor didn't "deserve" to be hurt in that way.
Speaking from someone who has this form of personal trauma, not to the extent of the show but still, I after many years of consideration come back to this single truth.
Just because you've had bad things happen to you does not justify you doing bad things.
Many reasons why. Not just because it's morally wrong to hurt others because you're in pain. But you personally and emotionally die.
You lose yourself amongst the chaos, the pain, regret, guilt, unfairness. If you go down that path. Yes, you are justified for wanting to get pay back towards those that hurt you. But at the cost of the parts of you that you love? The one they determined wasn't worth respect in the first place? It's tricky to navigate, but be diligent. You don't know what you're losing till after you break it yourself.
One thing. Allison didnt shoot Vanya. The gunshot was right next to Vanya.
Bro killed pogo that is something you just can’t forgive someone for 😔
@@TheShadowless i mean Pogo did lie and abide by Reginald's abuse so he's also at fault.
All I can say is … WHAT AN ACTOR😳🙌🙌
no bec when she cut Alison’s throat… i HATED her at that moment 😤💀…
My heart stopped when I saw that💀
@@keep.coolscenes my jaw dropped and froze 😭
The one that I can’t forgive her for is pogo.
@@keep.coolscenes bruh same 💀💀
I dont blame her, one of the only people she trusted was part of the cause that literally ruined her life and set her on a horrible path
ahhh the most powerful sibling as they should
number 5 is the strongest in my opinion
@@lostdracco6744 all he does is teleport. she literally destroyed the moon
@@jalishiaellis right the moon, know the difference between controlling space and time and the moon 🗿
@@lostdracco6744 …okay
@@jalishiaellis but five can rewind time when everyone including Vanya gets killed
Vanya/Viktor gets a ton of hate but people dont even think about all the crap they went through. Abused, neglected, medicated, and outcasted her whole life, All to discover the ENORMOUS amount of power she had inside of her. Paired with the intense emotions she was feeling, you can't really blame her for going crazy.
You don't get mad at a bomb for blowing up after you kick it around, and i can guarantee anyone in her position would react the exact same way😂 the more power, the more chance of corruption and power madness.
I was so sad, that he didn't get any violin parts after his final debut.
I don’t get why they made Viktor’s powers just glow blue and shoot blue energy in the newer seasons, the first season was so much more interesting and aesthetically pleasing. He’s hardly the white violin anymore now that he turns into a smurf every time he uses his powers
I was just thinking this, the graphics in the first season looked better for the character imo although the new ones are still cool
I think it would‘ve been cool if they let him use a Violin in battle because he still hasn’t fully mastered his powers
Los poderes de viktor en cada temporada evolucionan más, el blanco luminoso cambio a un azul celeste intenso, pero en tonos claros. Y de hecho desde la temporada 1 se ven esos matices azules.
Because he puts the energy in his body instead of the environment and in his ❤
Undoubtedly my most favourite character in the show
Love that you changed the title of this video. Good on ya.
SO powerful in season one only to become confused and weak in the other seasons.
yeah. I hope they brought the violin back, she used to be the character where a single note from his violin can blow up a person
Tbf that's kinda the point. He never learned to control his powers and emotions as a kid like the rest did thus doesn't as an adult. Both the apocalypses were cause by Viktor having major emotional meltdowns. He'd had to have an arc like Klaus did this season to fully be able to control their power outside of tense emotional situations.
@@deepshaking1 Dude they still dropped the ball on white violin. This is the same trash as Goku getting wounded by a ray gun.
I absolutely love it when he was tethering his brothers with his power and wasting away their life force. They've been so cruel to him his entire life and I can't blame him for going bat shit crazy.
thats a chick
@@shofuyu_niceguy1 have you watched season 3?
@@parrot_unique9577 still a chick
@@kos4793 nope
@@kos4793 no.
imagin Vanya, Jean Gray, & Scarlet Witch together 🔥
It's the end of the universe and time itself.
Sería demasiado poder, todos ellos bien locos verdad jaja, pero serían imparables, viktor destruye al planeta entero y Wanda crearía una realidad, y jean podría volver a construir todo.
Take vanya out
@@travel7618 porque? Viktor es muy poderoso. Con una nota de su poder explota a un hombre en mil pedazos, con una sinfonía, destruye al mundo.
@@detodounpoco-gd3vs بر عکس گفتی جین و وانیا دنیا رو نابود می کنند و واندا واقعیت رو بازسازی و اونطور که هر سه تاشون دوست دارن بازنویسی میکنه
Vanya is scary powerful. I’d like to see the calculations on how much energy you have to produce with sound to reduce to center of the moon to a molten core and blow the whole thing to chunks. Like, I’m just smart enough to grasp how fucking crazy that is. Vanya is easy producing more power than every nuke ever created.
I see a lot of people saying Viktor had a right to act the way he did and I agree however Viktor has always acted like this, he literally killed his babysitters. Elliot did a amazing job playing Viktor though and Viktor in s2 is a lot healthier
Edit- I fixed pronouns and Name, I have not watched season 3 yet
I don't think she killed them. Those hits looked nonfatal.
Except of course for the one that went out the window.
@@christianschoff2490 you can hear one of their necks snapping 😂 i think theyre dead
I don't think it was intentional. She was probably throwing a tantrum, except the consequences were disastrous.
she did. her dad had to build a robot nanny cause she kept snapping their necks
3:06 i said go? more like,
*_I N E E D TO P R A C T I C E!!!_* -Brett
Pogo didn’t deserve that 🥺
Vanya scared the hell out of me, she looked terrifying.
This whole series was better than the dark Phoenix movies
No tf it wasnt the besides there were only 2 darj phoenix movies the first one wasnt even called that.
because this show has good writing
@@nateluthor4643 I said what tf I said. Move on.
@@visionz530 very true
I WANT SEASON 3 SOOOO BAAADDDD AAAOXKSJXJD
She’s so OP. I hope they show her use her abilities to their fullest in season 3 at some point
The one that got bear hugged by luther?
I hope they brought back the violin at s4. She was heavily nerfed after season 1, what happened to the character where a single note from his violin can blow up a person or a building
@@eldeuls1237 Why does she look weaker in season 3 but not season 1?
@@exoticus1234 ask the writers and directors why they depowered her so bad. I mean they completely disregard him using a violin, that's basically his mjollnir to channel his power.
@@eldeuls1237 i think this can be explained by him most likely being afraid of his powers. i mean... hes ended the world twice so... id be scared of them too lol. plus in season 3 they expand on his powers more so there isnt really a huge need for the violin anymore. as much as i love how his powers look in season 1 (aka the best) i understand why they are toned down in the newest season.
S3 Allison definitely deserved that bow
unpopular opinion: i get that she had a sick, twisted and horrible past, but that does not justify her actions. im not saying that she should have turned out righteous and oozing goodness, i totally understand how the trauma has shaped her and made her do the (albeit annoying and self-centred) things she does, but what I hate the most is how people (us audiences in the real world) idolise her and feel empowered by her power. it pains me that younger audiences will look at her and be all "wow, she's so heroic for overcoming adversity". what she did at the end, was not being "powerful", it was losing control. it was forsaking all responsibility and becoming a threat to society.
i kind of think that her trauma and eventual retaliation against her families actions is kind of the point of her character. the entire plot is based around her causing these horrible things, but her family was the ones that pushed her to this point, so in a sense it all kind of trails back to them. it really is their fault, which is also why they can't really hold vanya responsible since she never would've done these things had she been loved or treated well by her family.
That's what I've noticed in the younger side of Gen-Z. They believe that trauma justifies everything, and all actions done because of that trauma is the fault of the person who caused the trauma. It's a victim mindset.
well, i mean. the only reaso9n she caused the apocalypse in the first season, you know. Destroying the moon and killing a lot of people, is because her family attacked her while she was performing at a concert because they felt justified in doing so.
@@laurenceedward5910 That's a very one sided way of saying "Vanya was putting thousands in danger, so the Umbrella Academy felt the need to stop her because they thought she was going to end the world."
And Vanya murdered someone because they beeped at her for standing in the middle of the road. They were justified.
But what if society became a threat to you, because in a way the people she was raised with caused this when there were so many chance for they to take a different root. If anything it should show and teach real life people to be kind to people and come from a place of understanding instead Instant judgment. If Luke would have emotional been there for her the ending would be completely different. It’s like if you gave baby bambi a machine. That’s how I view vanya. I thinks he gets a pass. If anything it’s the people or “society” that needs to change their way of treating people. My golden rule is be kind.
He destroyed the world? Yes
I still Stan him? Of course. He slayed
Heaven forbid they just stop giving him oatmeal
Oatmeal
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oatmeal
She stopped playing violin and acting the character when the actor came out. Was it truly necessary? The violin is the most important part of Vanya's life...it is where her powers have shown and grew.
if the wouldn't have treated her so bad and hidden her power, she could have learned to control it, and wouldn't cause such a disaster. I can't really blame her entirely
Vanya is the best and powerful.
I Hope Viktor uses his powers more like in Season one with the main focus being more having to generate Sound to use his Energy powers and focusing them Through his Violin would be really cool to see that again 😊👍
AS THE MOST POWERFUL SIBLING SHOULD
Her powers are so cool
It's interesting how they completely forgot what the purpose of that room originally was. it was to keep outside sound from interfering. does nothing to stop sound originating inside the room
El búnker estaba construido para que ningún sonido del exterior fuera escuchado, pero dentro tampoco había sonido. ¿Tienes idea de lo desesperante que era para viktor no escuchar nada? Literalmente al no saber sobre sus poderes era incapaz de sentir su corazón o al menos su respiración.
@@detodounpoco-gd3vs Yeah. I understand what you mean (google translate gave me a good enough idea). But what I meant was that nothing in that room was designed to stop sound that was already in the room, only to stop outside sound getting in. He could hear his heartbeat, it's what he used as a source of sound
@@zionnemakoma1398 si, pero al ser una lugar donde el sonido simplemente no existe, podía escuchar hasta su sangre correr en sus venas todo de el podía escucharlo al final y los latidos de su corazón fueron suficientes para sacarlo de ahí.
Anyone else LOVE this show? I’ve been watching this show soooo much I finished the whole 1 season in less than a week. My favorite character is Eliot page the one who plays vanya
Yeahhh same
It's so sweet of you to rechange the title's name to Viktor💙
But it’s still wrong, she was Vanya at this point
@@brandonhitcoln2814 girl- so my family should misgender me when TALKING ABOUT past events? Stfu
@@brandonhitcoln2814 but he changed his name to viktor
Some people need to do their research of transgender people good god
@@alana.carr_xx6930 Correct, but at the point and time when the scene is shown, her name is Vanya.
@@brandonhitcoln2814 still, looking at the real world for a past interview u wouldnt put his deadname would u? Thats just pure disrespect
Just putting it out there
As someone who doesn't watch the show this clarifies nothing about her powers
She can turn sound into destructive waves of pure energy and she can also use sound waves to simulate telekinesis
She can materialize sound into force waves. Similar to how Quake from Marvel uses vibrations.
She manipulates sound waves.
bruh she can harness sound? how is it that hard to understand?
@@keep.coolscenes también lo puede transformar en luz. Y gracias a eso es capaz de manipular la materia (posiblemente deformarla), controlar o manipular el clima, absorber la vida y fuerza vital de las personas(aunque nosé si esto es también conectado al absorber sonido), darles poderes a los que el desea manteniendo una conexión telepatica con ellos(sin mencionar que es inmune a los ataques que sean dirigidos por su propio poder cuando esa persona con la que lo comparte quiere hacerle daño) entre otras otras cosas que tiene que ver con la mente. Sin duda viktor es superior.
Vanya was far more interesting in S1 / 2 than season 3
... seriously? I didn't think so. Just she wasn't the main focus anymore, wasn't the bomb like usual.
@@MYSTmke Even if she's not the main focus, how she used her powers in the first season was far more interesting than just being a bomb in S3.
I mean give a shine to others. For me i’m glad that they did justice to Klaus in S3 not just talking to dead/ghost people. I’m happy he embrace his ability. Vanya ruled S1 and S2 tho.
@@kewl_ same with Allison tbh and obviously there's a load of new characters so vanya just wasn't even close to the main focus but even then... he is a fully developed character ar this point so there isn't much to do with Viktor.
they should brought back the violin for s4
The part where vanaya was yelling at Allison I shook like Elliot he did really good job portraying vanaya
Hands down viktor is my fav character
Vanya was heavily nerfed when he became Viktor, especially in S4
well he got different powers, and hardly used them in season 3
W for changing the title
You... you remembered Victor.
How has nobody put this threat down? She has zero control of her powers and is highly emotional.
Because they can't, he's too powerful, lol
@@dudedadric6514she*
I love Elliot Page and I'm really happy that they accepted him for who he is, but it bothers me a little that they changed the name of the character "VANYA" to "Victor" considering that his name was related to his power: sound waves that came out of his VIOLIN. Even in the comics you can see how during the orchestra his body was transformed into a shape similar to one.
I thought his birth name was chosen symbolically as it was a codename of the Tsar Bomba (the most powerful weapon ever created by humanity). And maybe the renaming in Season 3 was also bcs he stopped being a bomb during Season 2's finale (and the previous name was no longer needed, apart from as well showing that trans people very often change their name after coming out).
I don't know how the "Vanya"/"Ivan" name has anything to do with violins. My personal theory, that in TUA it has more to do with his god-like powers (the name IRL literally has God in its meaning, while it's very subtle, it could be a genius move by Gerard Way)
Suit wearing, blue eyed Vanya was an absolute menace and I wish she remained that way and a villain throughout the show. She was crazy powerful.
now i know why she was taking the pills , shes deadly
heee
@@dralie6101 the character is she. The actor is he. Is that clear?
@@ifeelfantastic1014 Wait what? It's obviosly a woman. I'm confused.
@@LifeInPink999 Well, he is a transgender man. His name is Eliot now
@@ifeelfantastic1014 relax it’s the character is still a woman.
I liked more when they made the powers kinda invisible to resemble more soundwaves and the full white when in full charge of the powers, they turned it into Human Torch like ever since absorbed Harlan power
Kitty Pride in another timeline
I miss her.
Did they even get a OSCAR?! they’re screams are real and wonderful and most emotional
Vanya was great. I can't wait for them to give Klaus his powers.
the nanny scene made me laugh because the way the first nanny flew off
Nanny
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanny
>>>>>>>>>>>>
The definition for: "there's a light inside of you."
season 1 was amazing… vanya was such a strong character but they had to ruin her and make it all so fake
I'm glad that Vanya wasn't turned into the true villain after that. It would be heart-broken to see family members stepping on each other. I had it too enough with Dynasty =))
She was mistreated so badly for all season, she has everu righy to be mad
Damn, after having just watched season 4 i have forgotten how good this show once was...
thank you for changing the title to his real name
Will always be a she. It's a shame what she has done to her self. It's not something to celebrated.
Came here to edit him in that suit. The concert scene is so awesome!
Could someone remind me why his powers color went from white to orange as the seasons progressed. I know in the comics he is (well she is cuz comics) known as the white violinist or something close right, was this change ever mentioned in the show?
He lost his blue super powers during season 3 finale and gained the orange ones in season 4.
vanya is a villain i will always defend. she is the gun. she cant be blamed for the fingers that triggered her
Being a living superweapon doesn't make him a "villian" per se (in Season 1). It wasn't his fault that the other siblings f-d up, but that's just because they didn't knew the details until it was too late. But it all goes back to Reginald (and his 4D chess grand plan), that he purposefully didn't trained Number Seven to control his powers prematurely. The only downside is that he was possessed back then (probably even voluntarily), and didn't understand that he was about to wipe out the human race (either by creating massive shockwave, that probably was originally happened before Five's arrival to the post-apocalyptic world, or by shattering the Moon). But that's no excuse still, even during all of this he didn't mind to kill random innocent people (that one car driver, and the audience in the concert where he unleashed a force wave "out of defense mechanism") or to suck out life force out of his siblings (even if they were going to knock him out, if that would meant saving the world from him).
@user-yy5di3qg5u Hargreaves never let the others know bout Victor's powers. So it's valid. However having known about it, they weren't there to support him. They pushed him, hid him and triggered the trauma and hatred that he grew to have for their father. The most fucked up and safely fucked up among them is Allison. Victor was never taught to control his powers, yet he did in further seasons with help.
He is the best character
@@dudedadric6514she*
0:56
“VONYA”
“ W A T”
God i love viktor
I personally don't hate the character myself; but just like the fellow siblings who ganged up on them- I can absolutely understand why some hate the character.
Vanya was cool and all, great powers and cool story. But regardless of her horrid childhood she still technically committed manslaughter on trillions of lifeforms so I don't thing she gets a pass for committing genocide.
Elliot still did good doe, 10/10 do recommend.
But they would have never happened if her powers and emotion were never compressed as a child. Keep in mind she found her emotion “safety” from Leonard so. Vanya gets a pass.
In the second season she isn’t going off the rails she find safety with the correct people surrounded in the correct environment. It’s only when toxic people comes around when negativity things happen. That’s what I’ve noticed. The siblings learned to emotional be there for each other in season 2 and the end of the world is once again cause by THE PEOPLE with toxic reason of pushing vanya to the edge. So at the end of the day maybe it isn’t her but just the people. Every single action we do or put out towards people will forever matter. My golden rule is be kind.
@@alazybutterfly._.817 i dont think that excuses her murdering her nannies because she didnt like the food she got
@@user-dm5pv6fm8g she was a child tho. I would blame her dad for using human nannies instead of robot nannies tbh.
It was her fault
Yes TH-cam, I want a 3 year old 7 minute compilation of this violin girl using her blue powers at 11am
When she sliced Allisons throat it gave me so much satisfaction especially gives me more after watching season 3
I'm in love with him omg
Let's be honest. Luther and Diego are mostly useless. They're the weakest of all 7 and also the least intelligent ones. They treated Vanya like trash and yet everyone just forget the fact they cause the most trouble throughout the story. (Diego is the main troublemaker)
That Carrie White moment at 3:45 🤍
I dont remember the gorila guys name since i never really liked him and its been some time since I watched the show anyways if you want to hate someone hate him, he was the one who pressed the bottom that set off the bomb and the whole family created the bomb. Vania did nothing wrong and you cant change my mind (speaking of season1)
luther
So did the nannies, the random guy honking his car horn, the random guy/girl taking their last meal, the random person taking their last shower, the random parent saying one last good bye to her kids before leaving to work. She did all of that, twice
@@TheFlyingFish692 like i said she did nothing wrong, all the nanies and killing inside the house as a kid were her father's foult. and after she went rogue (indulged by their siblings) the killings still are on the family
@@sebastyann123 Jesus u are despicable. Just because she had a bad childhood doesn’t justify her killing people. The blood is still on her hands it doesn’t matter who pushed her to it she still committed murder
@@sebastyann123plus her siblings didn’t even know she had powers plus they didn’t even physically or really mentally abuse her they just ignore her and didn’t want to hang out with her.
I didn't realize how much his voice has changed from season 1!
title has the same energy as when wikipedia mods get in their way to change "is" to " was" because someone famous died
they were in a cabin and her powers reached to the academy damn her powers are strong probably the strongest among her family
if i had a nickel for everytime the umbrella academy has been destroyed...
Say goodbye to this lol. Now she's "Viktor", no longer Vanya. Ridiculous.
It's Vanyo lmfao ! 😂