I keep asking the question would they have approached Khadeeja RA our mother in the same way because she had 2 children from 2 marriages before she married our prophet SAW. Imagine treating single mothers this way when we have the example of prophet Muhammad SAW to show us the way. Their mum and sisters would be ashamed. As would all of our mothers in Islam. May Allah SWT guide us all to emulate the prophet SAW
@@PokeFlixia another issue with the ummah. Has to pick on spelling rather than the actual substance of the message. Two heaven points for you. For spelling it correctly. Do you feel better now? 😂 and for the record. It’s not peace be upon her. It’s may Allah SWT be pleased with her. raḍiyatu 'llāhu 'anha. She wasn’t a prophet. 5 heaven points to me. 😂
@@PokeFlixiayou’re welcome Welcome to Islam. Welcome home. If I can add there was no need to antagonise me about a spelling. It was uncalled for. May Allah SWT make it easy for us all to be kinder. Reach out if you ever need help inshallah. Alhamdulilah.
Ali, Lewisham islamic centre came out with a statement regarding the situation, and defending the sister. Near the begininng of the statement: "In light of what we have seen, read, and heard including the testimonies of events and the evidence presented publicly, in particular listening to the voice note and watching the video Umm Sumaya posted, we reject the allegation that she has lied, manipulated, or misconstrued events to suit an agenda, and we believe those who are saying such things about her are committing grave acts of slander and abuse. The voice note speaks for itself. The one issue which Zaid did not request was a temporary marriage, although the wording he used in the voice message could give that impression."
Imagine a virgin woman entered a marriage expecting that she is the 1st wife. Them suddenly she discovered the existence of another wife. Wow! Will you accept this scenario for your own daughter?
Good point! Then if she got disgusted of his lies and losses trust and ask for a divorce, guess what, she is going to be labeled as a feminist lol. These men are unbelievable! What if his temporary single mother gets pregnant? How are the kids going to meet his family? I'm pretty sure he will make another lie! What gives him the right to ruin the lives of all these people just for the sake of full fulfillment of his desires!?
He wudnt say hakuna matata with that! That's like a sister not saying she has kids . She kept silent with that and the brother just assumed she has no kids and never asked knowing well he wrote in his profile no kids
It deeply upset me to realize how little regard he has for single mothers. He views them as temporary placeholders, merely satisfying his needs until he finds something he deems more desirable.
Literally NOTHING that he said indicates that he sees marriage to single mothers as "temporary", why are you perpetuating a disgusting lie for which you will be held to account?
@@Thereadinghoek ZAID EXPLICITLY ELABORATES THAT HE ISN'T TALKING ABOUT DIVORCING I feel like I'm taking crazy pills arguing with these cancerous feminists in the comments...
Wallahi if a guy approached my sister the way this guy did i would hurt him 😡.How dare he states single mothers standards are low than a virgin women. He wanted to marry her for affection until he finds a "traditional" women. My big sister is a single mother and hearing this dude pisses me off. Men need to approach him and correct him before he gets fireworks.He just wanted her for affection😑The nerve on him. There is no difference between a single mother and a virgin woman.Single mothers (not all) are strong and they are capable of raising kids. I'M 20 and when i decide it time to get married i won't mind marrying a single mother even if she is older than me. Alot of single mothers are strong,she already has experience in being a mum,most single mothers i know are close to thier faith so they can help strengthen your iman. Alot of them are mature . I'm slandering this brother but where i come from,my big sis name and couple others is always being whispered by women in my community ,not only by women but by young girls who aren't even married.These are girls who are unable to match my sis even in thier dreams.My sis who is 28 is the mother of 2 kids.She was physically and mentally abused by her ex..I had no bond with her untill she moved back home.She moving back home was a gift from allah because she taught me my islamic deen ,help me throughout my schooling years.She used to work and at night she would do my school protects since i hated it.She forced me get good grades.She did alot for me.Even though she went through torture during her marriage,she still never let that effect her .And she has more honour and respect than most "virgin" girls i know.
As salaamu alaykum...Fear Allah akhi...gives evidence Qur'an and Sunnah that you can hurt a muslim for asking sincere advice, he wasn't calling her to haraam...pipe down akhi don't get silly with your emotions.
@@somethingelse4916 You might like to read what the imams in the case ruled. What he did was wrong and it shouldn’t be so difficult to denounce his behaviour. Apparently his actions are fine with you
8:45 Subhanallah! The community around me made me feel, after I got widowed, and I was only a Muslim for two years at that point, that I'm "used" and no good. I started to believe that. And one man and his wife took advantage of me. She made me marry her man, to blame me for her problems and treat me like a slave. He brought one of his friends, who didn't even know me, just from people's gossip, and thought bad about me, to be my waliy. After I married him, I was first showered with love, than beaten up more and more by him, when he had problems with his wife and needed to let off steam. And when I wanted to leave he said: “No probelm! Leave! Nobody wants you anymore anyways, because you're used and crazy.” I believed it and stayed for 18 years. 😢
They will taste the consequences on judgment day. Alhamdulillah you eventually got out. You are special in the eyes of Allah, and no one can tell you otherwise. Take time to get closer to Allah and heal your heart. InshaAllah, one day you'll have an amazing righteous husband. Remember, hurt people, hurt people. The ugliness that comes from people is a reflection of their diseased heart and it has nothing to do with you or how you are. Never allow anyone to tell you who YOU are. May Allah bless you and make your matters easy for you. Sincerely, a revert single mom. ❤
@@Londz12 dont judge them :) she was manipulated and gaslighted. Its not her fault at all, these things do happen. maybe its better to delete your comment before she reads it.
@redalert3727 don't tell me what to do I meant what I said.. yes, it does happen, and it's sad to hear, but come on, 18 years of abuse? where does this person live? We are not living in ancient times! Men and women go through domestic violence. It does happen, and some people remain trapped because of love or kids, but come on, not 18 years! That's next level
@@Londz12 There was even a case of someone who was enslaved in England for more than 18 years. Things happen. I dont mean to tell you what to do :) but i think it may be best to delete your comment, or at least edit it slightly. Its up to you at the end of the day. But yeah, she was a new revert so she was navigating the world anew and taken advantage of. So i dont blame her.
I think it’s a combo of a few things : - Defending and Hanging in the wrong circles with ppl known for being abusive to women example Andrew tate and Mahdi T - Obsession with topics about women, hijab and polygamy often coming across as a fetish. - Adoption of redpill ideologies - That hasanat guy being exposed for being a whole non muslim, doesn’t help either. ALL OF THESE THINGS MAKE WOMEN VERY DISTRUSTING OF DAWAH MEN.
Doesn't matter. You don't generalise. Period!! It's a sin to group people and hate them. The end. Also, even if it is 100% proven that someone sinned, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND MIND OUR BUSINESS!!! Aaaaaalllll of these people spreading so much hatred and insults in this matter (either side), will be regretting it HORRIBLY after their last breath!! People have forgotten the warnings and punishments of the grave and the hereafter from Allah SWT. No wonder the condition of our current Ummah!!
@@syedhasanmohiuddin827there’s a huge difference between sinning and actively hurting people, these men mentioned in the comment have hurt women and aren’t very good people. There’re things you just cannot turn a blind eye to . Also they did not “sin” secretly they were loud and proud about it.
You mentioned one name. If these brothers exposed 2 or 3 crazy women, should they start lambasting all women? Seriously calm down and be measured in your thinking.
@@alphauno6614woman have been on the other hand of the table for almost a millennia. Keep your ass down. Lmfao imagine he marries a virgin girl the wife would expect him to be virgin too. Wouldn't she. Disgusting is the word for these type of men.
Futher part of Lewisham Islamic Centre's statement: "There are unfortunately many channels and individuals who are beginning to comment on this topic amongst others, who are not qualified in the Islamic sciences, nor are they qualified as judges or mediators, many of them have not yet reached their late 20s let alone an age of maturity. This itself is haram and an act of transgression. They will stand in front of Allah on the day of judgement, and we strongly advise all who are not involved in this matter on the ground to take down any content they have uploaded online and to keep their tongues out of this matter just as Allah has kept their bodies out of it."
Ali won’t take it down even if Allah Himself tells him to- because Ali doesn’t worship Allah, (I mean how could he if those who are learned and closest to Allah advise him to and he doesn’t??), Ali worships views and money.
@@marziyashaikh3748 exactly, Ali’s greed for fame, views, likes and money initially mislead him, but the problem is actually his culture that he was unable to let go of when he reverted to Islam, that culture that tells him that men can do no wrong and women are always in the wrong, that backward Turkish culture and his own insecurity and unworthiness as a man has caused him to fall into the trap of worshipping himself- or worshipping men who he is desperate to be like. If I was non Muslim I would think Ali was gay the way he d-rides for men who are so obviously in the wrong. But you’ll be surprised how many of these influencer da’ee are secretly in mutually beneficial or illicit relationships. Not only that but the problematic yes-man wife who basically manipulates Ali into believing that she is the only good woman on earth (she does this out of insecurity knowing how desperately her husband wants more attractive wives), she manipulates him by always going against attractive females and making them out to be such terrible Muslim women, you’ll see - remember that woman and her daughter - the daughter had gone back to live with her dad, mother was abusing the daughter with her new husband. Daughter was more attractive than her mother and Ali in that video said “I spoke to my wife”, and criticised the makeup of the daughter even though the mother was wearing even more makeup! every single time this man speaks blatant wrong and is unjustly against any attractive woman - his wife is involved. He confidently thinks he’s right and not being sexist because his wife has his brains all boggled and muffled - she needs to keep him that way I guess, brothers beware, women do this a lot, extremely manipulative especially when they are insecure.
@@Truthivist101 This is a disgusting comment. Just because you didn't like Ali's opinion on the matter doesn't mean you now go around takfiring him. What a horrible thing to do. Keep your emotions in check.
@@alphauno6614 I will call anyone who places their own ego and desires above the commands of scholars and learned people such as imams carrying out voluntary work in the communities for the sake of Allah a kafir. You can be all emotional about it crying about takfiring someone and defending a jahil like Ali, but I will stand firmly on the side of scholars and imams and Islam with this one
I think both sides need to consider before posting. Some Hijabi's and Dawahs bros are having too much drama right now only for clout. That is also a sign of akhirah. Subhanaallah!!!
@@GHURABA_DUNYA This guy Zaid who does dawah on social media reached out to a Muslim single mother and proposed the idea of a secret temporary marriage to her so that his physical needs can be met while he waited to find a single girl for a proper traditional marriage. She exposed him so other Muslim women can be warned about him and others like him.
@@GHURABA_DUNYAthe brother went to that sister for advice as a single mother proposed to him for marriage. And he was asking the wrong person for advice indeed. He should have gone to the senior people of knowledge instead of her. He was asking her for advice if he should accept that single mother's proposal or not, because she is also a single mother and he wanted to know her perspective. When this sister asked him what he will do after getting a traditional wife, he replied that he will still keep this wife and take care of her child. There was no talking of temporary marriage or anything, as he wrote in her dm that he will keep her even when he gets a traditional wife. But from that sister's video misconceptions spread everywhere and people thought he wanted a temporary secret marriage with that sister and then divorce her (Which is not the case). And she made "some part" of their conversation public, which was wrong. Truly wrong. That brother was wrong for approaching her. And that sister was wrong for making this public. Don't listen to anything people tell you unless you know what's going on and you hear the story from both sides. Now that brother and sister privately had a conversation with some Imams and solved it, and that sister said she will also post a video clarifying everything as her video spread a huge misconception about him. May Allah forgive us and protect us from the traps of Shaitaan. Ameen.
so after the recent statement released by the Imams from Lewisham Masjid, it is clear that sister Umm Sumayyah has nothing to apologise for. In fact NONE of this would have happened if Zaid didn’t come into her DM’s free mixing and talking about his struggles to stay away from zina. Allah swt has exposed the liar and ‘virgin girls’ need to be extremely mindful when approached by these dawah bros, as clearly some do not have the emotional maturity to be a husband.
Also, lying is haram, not treating and loving all your wives equally is haram. Looking down on people is haram. Messaging a non Mahram is also haram. And when the sister exposes him, that’s a big deal to these Dawah brothers ? they’ve basically disregarded all the haram things this brother had done, and also love the confident of them asking which part about this is haram ? Every part of it, full stop
I wish you speak with knowledge, the Prophet peace be upon him loved khadijah may Allah bless her more than anyone else including his other wives, and when he asked about most dearest people to him he without hesitation mentioned Aisha may Allah bless her. Amr b. al-'As reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent him in command of the army despatched to Dhat-as-Salasil. When 'Amr b. al-'As came back to the Prophet (ﷺ) he said: {Who amongst people are dearest to you? He said: A'isha. He then said: Who amongst men? He said: Her father, and I said: And who next? He said: Umar. He then enumerated some other men}.[Sahih Muslim 2384]. That shows you even the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him love some of his wives more than others but still he didn't injustice with anyone of them, so he was spending the same time with them also give them the same amount of allowances, play and laugh with them all similarly. Even in his last days he asked them permission to stay at A'isha may Allah bless her place for his last days, he didn't ask to spend his last days at anyone else from all of his wives.
Does not feel good when someone generalizes does it ...Dawah guys! What about all the generalization that are made regarding women, muslims women, educated women's, hijabis that show their hair slightly, make up wearing hijabis, none hijab wearing muslim women, divorcees, women with a past etc. Constantly being the topic of your videos.
@@fatimapatel3792 tell ‘em what, that they shouldn't preach the Word of God on earth? Would you rather those who promote night clubs and drinking to monopolise the air waves?
@@fatimapatel3792 Why are you generalising all night club goers? Some of them could be watching these videos to understand the truth. It's amazing how you did the very thing you criticised others for when it came to something you felt passionate about. Sister Fatima, stop talking to strangers on the internet and go do something productive in life.
So, some men doing dawah became threats to our sisters thus to the whole ummah, and you still find a way to make it about you by saying why generalizing ? Craaaazy
No matter who's in the wrong or right, a man blatantly asking a single mum that he wants to marry her until he finds a suitable wife who is traditional and his family approve off is disgusting in many ways. Your intention is not to marry out of respect of looking after the woman and the child, but clearly to fulfil your desires in a halal way. Otherwise why not just go for any other women who aren't married and virgins??? Doesn't make sense to include until he finds someone suitable... Sounds as though she's a side thing until he gets what he wants.
Are you dense? He explained that he didn't approach her for marriage, but rather another single mother approached him for marriage and he came to her for advice as she is a single mother too. That was wrong but for the sister to twist it as if he proposed to her and wanted to keep it secret etc is just disgusting and slander of the highest form. Put your bias against men aside and look at the facts.
@@MrKingPwnage The issue here is not his intended target but rather his thought process. He was looking for a temporary marriage with a single mother because, in his own words, they have "low expectations". Before you jump and say that it wasn't going to be a temporary marriage, let me remind you that he lives in the West where polygyny is illegal. That is why he was talking about keeping the single mother wife a secret from his family. Either he was going to use the single mother then divorce her when he found the wife of his dreams, which means he was going to have a temporary marriage...haram...or he was going to keep the single mother as a secret second wife...also haram...in order to keep himself out of legal trouble. The guy's shady. I'm glad he got exposed and humiliated.
@@MrKingPwnage if he's so practicing why not approach the scholars and ask for their advice, why DM a woman who is pretty with a full face of makeup on social media. Clearly that's saying something already. It's always one rule for men and another for women
He was telling her what she as a single mother wants - he decided a divorced single mum didn't want a big waleema, didn't need money because they are loaded, didn't care about having an extended family / in-laws, wanted to keep it secret, and wanted to have a single mum "until" he found the virgin -
I am a muslim sister. But I get annoyed by sisters generalising all dawah brothers. That arab dawah guy was silly and lacked islamic knowledge and tried to stretch rules , but he never stalked and forced the girl. He had a dumb proposal, but he did not perv on her. The sisters should avoid putting theirs pic online, I never do it to save the hassle of dealing with dumb messages and risking ourselves to pervs. I never let my sisters and daughters ever to join social media. Forever wearing my burka
Yes I also don't get the logic behind wearing a hijab and tons of makeup at the same time, but hey...like all the guys here defending the man in this incident are saying, don't judge! Also, I don't think she generalized all dawah brothers. She said "dawah bro" in singular. It still does subliminally indict all dawah brothers just like the same dawah brothers using the word "hijabi" in all the negative vid titles. That also generalizes and shows all Muslim women who wear hijab in a negative light. Both sides need to stop this kind of behavior ASAP.
May Allah bless you, sister. But this Zayd brother has knowledge just to let you know. But, all the children of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent.
When Ali mentioned he had 3 daughters, the following came to mind straight away subhan'Allah: "Whoever has three daughters and is patient towards them, and feeds them, gives them to drink, and clothes them from his wealth; they will be a shield for him from the Fire on the Day of Resurrection"
@@abeltesfamariam8883 and may Allah reward you for your dua' and accept it upon you tenfold, as maybe your comment is the means that someone else see's this and shares it on with others, ameen!
My dad, may Allah grant him jannah, also used tell us girls that daughters are a blessing from Allah. I didn't know what he meant by it back then but realized later when I came across this hadith.
@@j86485 Oh for crying out loud get out of this state of perpetual self pity already. You're exhausting. Of course all children are blessing but we're specifically discussing Prophet's hadith about daughters right now. The Prophet(PBUH) wasn't saying that sons are not a blessing just because talked about daughters, and neither was my dad.
In light of the fact that the Lewisham Mosque has released a statement, the most appropriate thing for you to do is to take this video down. I am genuinely asking you Ali, you are not doing a service to this ummah by having this video up, you are creating a very big disservice to everyone involved. If I were you, I would take the Imam's advice - as one unquestionably should and delete this video.
@@LiveLaugh23 no You give opportunities to people who want to make lying /defamation/allegations the truth. What did the girl do besides lying and not using the Quran/Hadiths or scholars to make her argument. These things help us in understanding the situation of Muslims and how they’re acting. It’s time to stop hypocrites. An imam saying something needs to first be understood regarding if what he’s saying is based on Quran and Hadiths rather than feeling shame about the ummah like all of us have to.
Ali dawah casually putting himself on the same level as the honourable Ahmed Deedat. Just goes to show how deluded these social media dawah guys are because Ali you are not a certified dawah man. You are merely someone who debates because you have a passion for it.
He spreads the message of Islam and debates and has done so for years.. And it’s not fair to generalise people. Just like we cannot generalise that all single mothers are at fault for being divorced.
@Hahahaha-7 yes im not denying he spreads dawah but you got to be super naive if you think he has delivered islamic lectures and studied to a high level of theology to put himself on the same level. He does other soci talk shows that is not segregated. You going to call that a dawah too . Did those daees do such things? No. Because they were far to educated to go down such routes.
@@kaystar1844 What do you mean far too educated. This is a Muslim brother who converted to Islam, he has an Islamic channel that helps to spread information, and spreads the message of Islam. What is wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with going down this route. Also no he is not a social media deluded dawah guy. You said he’s merely someone who debates. We need people like him to stand up for Islam. If it wasn’t for people like him do you think people who don’t debate like you would call people to Islam. It’s because of Muslims like him Islam is the fastest growing religion..
@Hahahaha-7 I don't have the energy to argue with your dire lack of comprehension and coming out with silly strawman arguments. What's his reversion got to do with anything? Honestly please read books. Your comprehension needs a little seeing to. The pedestal you've just put Ali on who is a debater not a learned scholar is whats wrong with your head and comprehension.
@@zarlashtkhan3740 Yeah! It was demeaning, but an honest question. Honestly, he should of known how wrong he sounds. It was the keeping it from his family too that got me thinking he is misguided by this dunya. I hope Allah guides men like this.
@@mohammada3116 yes it is haram lmfao you cant get married secretly, plus what he did of the talking to the woman was HARAM. you stop being so emotional and wanting to defend every male u see and grow up
@@mohammada3116 Who practiced this during the Prophet or Sahabas time? Where is the reference to this being implemented? Even the scholars have disallowed this for infringing on spousal rights and causing discord. Anyone that has a basic understanding of the rights of spouses and the institution of marriage in Islam would not support such a marriage. Don't promote such lowly innovations and remain silent.
No smoke without fire, we have a big dawah bro scene here and the scandalous situations they’ve put women in is unfortunately not a rare situation. They’re known as single mother makers, and using single or young females. Pretty sad Ali decided to go full defence rather than taking a moment to recognise that taking advantage of women has been going for decades.
The younger generation has lots of passion but no brains unfortunately. I'm 45 and have realised intelligence & wisdom is more uncommon than you think !! There are more pink diamonds in the world than wise intelligent people!!
@@mohammada3116 You need to fear Allah because predators like these will feel safe coming after your own daughters one day if people like you continue discouraging others from exposing them.
This is absolutely disgusting.. why would a man go to a non mahram who is a single mother asking for a advice that can he fulfill his needs with a single mother till he finds a virgin...... What about the non married girl.. if he desires a virgin woman why she should marry a non virgin man SHAME ON THIS MAN.... A BIG SHAME He only value his own needs
Because not every single mother even wants a full time husband? Some women are soooo overbearing and protective of their kids that the thought of a man who is not their biological father discipling them makes them irate. Yet these women still want a husband because they understand zina is a grave evil. It's not a preposterous idea for a man to essentially be a part time husband to a single mother without interfering with her parenting of her children. Depends on circumstances and priorities.
@@alphauno6614 You have no idea about women's psychology so stop top speaking for them, please. As a mom of a six yr old myself I'll tell you that a mother who's soooo overbearing and protective would NEVER put her kids through the embarrassment and trauma of a part time dad coming around once in while only to disappear in mommy's bedroom, someone who can't take them out anywhere because his marriage or whatever you want to call it is a secret that they can't share with their friends or even biological dad's family. Kids forced into such perverse arrangements will be messed up for life. They'll resent their moms and even Islam bcz this garbage is being presented to them in an Islamic packaging. If you keep promoting and defending this practice, 20-30 yrs later you may have countless ex-Muslim ted bundys running around.
@@alphauno6614Said from the perspective of a man. No woman would agree to what zaid offered and no brother or father would sit around as they see a male stranger approach their sister or daughter in that way. He’d be beaten up and held accountable
This is part of a much deeper problem of marriages being made too difficult by parents, over sexualised society, men allowing theirs desires to direct their actions, sisters having very high expectations and people not putting enough effort to keep their marriages Now the question of Misyar marriages are debated by scholars, some say permissible however temporary or secret marriages have outright been rejected, his actions were in poor taste but people need to understand the root of the problem rather than decapitate him Our young men need to find wives and our sisters, single mum or otherwise need husbands Unfortunately some single mums have agreed to this in the past, we can’t judge them for it, they need companionship and are struggling to find proper husbands
I think what blew this whole situation out of proportion is, that it is actually a very fragile underlying issue in society right now. I don’t think it was so much to do with what party did what, but more to do with the beliefs & views on single mothers right now and how men view their worths. This is what fuelled so much reaction from women (not necessarily feminists). What single mothers find so outrageous is the stereotypical assumption of them being referred to as last options, unworthy, temporary pass times, beneath virgins, non-traditional feminists or unworthy of actual marriage/wifey status etc. This narrative has been especially prevalent in current times. Single mothers are exhausted from how hard their lives already are and how demanding their lifestyles as 24/7 carers can get, that it’s confusing where anyone would assume they have no value. They feel they do all this work as the backbone of society, to breed and raise the next generation, yet it takes one man to come along and say they’re useless, unfavourable, undesirable, expired, damaged goods etc. They are human too and a reaction is inevitable. Similarly, to how it is unfair to group all Dawah guys under one umbrella persona, it is unfair to group all single mothers under those hurtful stigmas. Not every single mother is the same and it’s hurtful for them to read things like “single mothers are divorced for a reason, don’t marry them” or “single mothers are liberal feminists” just because of the circumstances Allah destined for them. Unfortunately, a lot of men in our generation have this view of divorcees/widows/ single moms, that they’re the bottle of the barrel and not worth any consideration and I guess single mothers have just grown wary of this labelling. But like you said this ties in with how much healing and accountability a woman has done. It’s up to how strong she trains her mind to be whether she believes this mentality or ignores it. Coming out of divorce tends to leave women weak and vulnerable and prone to low self esteem. When a woman leaves a marriage honourably with her kids and is just surviving day to day raising her kids on her own, it can be very disheartening to hear what society thinks of her worth. She can easily begin to believe what is being said or it can go the other way and inflame the ongoing “gender wars.” I agree, it’s a woman’s own responsibility to work on her low self esteem post divorce and to limit her exposure to hurtful views on single mothers online. Online isn’t reality and it can be consuming to constantly believe every single thing that is spewed there until it distorts one’s view of their actual reality. I also agree with your point that suddenly everyone’s ex-husband is a narcissist or abuser, when really it’s just bottled feelings that haven’t been worked through yet. This doesn’t discredit those who actually survived domestic abuse though of course. Well done for bringing awareness to this current sensitive issue even if you started bringing clarity on it 10 years ago, it is just as important now. JazakAllahu Kheiran, may Allah reward your intentions.
Imagine the married to someone 1st & later u r demoted to 2nd wife cos u r single mom To be honest no woman will want be degraded like that. Im just sadness by his opinion view of single mom, as not equal to a traditional woman.
Firstly, there's no such thing as "first" and "second" wife - All women are the same in a marriage. Secondly, he's being upfront with his intentions. It's obviously a unique scenario that could work for some single mothers. Otherwise if he was going to offer all the rights and responsibilities then why wouldn't he just marry another single virgin woman? Why marry an older woman, with kids, financially supporting and protecting them? Where's the incentive?
In Islam, men are supposed to protect women, but nowadays we often see the opposite (I am not generalizing). The men in the comments who justify these actions are the same ones who justify the actions of pedophiles and rapists against women and young girls. You say we need to hear his side, but this man has already responded to people's messages and justifies his actions. Instead of seeking justice, you justify these actions. la hawla wala quwata ila billah
It's because they weren't raised right. That's an issue in the Ummah, too. Many of them are mama's boys and were raised entitled, so they don't know how to respect a human being, let alone women.
those people does not represent Islam. Alhamdulillah, I'm Muslim, and I have brothers who respect me and would protect me from anyone who wanted to harm me.
Why do you all like to play victim? A couple men are defending him, A couple men are still saying he was wrong. He did make a video and didn't justify his actions. Apologized for what needed apologies for and clarified the slanders. If you were fair you'll equally be asking why the lady ruined his life when he didn't make many of the claims people are saying he did. And thank you, muslim men do not support pedophiles or rapists.
As someone who was married to one of these dawah guys from speakers corner as a second wife, things aren't always what they seem. Some guys don't take their own advice to others when it comes to how to treat your wife right or equal. In this situation, this could have been avoided. He was asking for advice, yes his views on single mothers are not right but again he was asking for advice and she didn't have to expose him like that. She could have just said she's not interested in advising him if that's the case because his mindset on single mothers is wrong or given actual advice. And Ali is absolutely right about the first wives destroying marriage with the second wives. Men fear their first wives enough to ruin their marriage and treat their second wives like second class citizen's and absolutely unequal leaving the second wife no option but to leave the marriage. Abuse shouldn't be tolerated or rewarded.
@@jeenadjo1238 it does, many of these youtuber dawah guys are just stupid and hypocritical and dont follow deen, many of them are just redpill in disguise. gross
These men shouldn't be having two wives in the first place. Do you think a woman is a robot with no feelings? Do you think the first wife would be happy to share her man?
If your wife is the type of person to get jealous if you marry twice then you shouldnt do it in the first place. If you need to marry someone else then maybe have a discussion with your wife and if she disagrees you can divorce her on mutual agreement. That is way better than going through months or years of drama. That's why its important to do background checks on both males and females before you get married to them. Look online, ask around in the neighborhood. Prevention is always better than treatment. I see far too many people suffer from marrying the wrong person and getting their life destroyed
My understanding is a Nikah cannot be hidden and kept a secret from family, as Sunni Muslims. . So what he’s proposing is wrong. I’m far from an expert on Islamic matters. This is what I have read. Is this correct?
@@dubai_fitnessyou obviously haven’t seen the statement released by Lewisham Mosque after they reviewed the material, they have defended the sisters honour and stated categorically that she has nothing to apologise for. That woman did a favour to all the women who were idolising Zaid.
@@Truthivist101 she said he wanted temporary marriage and that he wanted to propose to her. And iluded he said for her to keep it a secret too. She slandered him. They said she shouldn’t have done that.. where’s her public apology.. check Ali dawah new vid
Wait a minute that guy was saying that he will do secret marriage with a woman who single mother and but want a virgin girl for his traditional marrige... basically a temporary marriage... isn't it haram ..and if both party agree on temporary marriage knowingly only based on desire..i don't know what to say but I would stay out of it ....and a virgin girl would want a virgin boy generally... So would that guy let his traditional virgin wife know before marriage that he is not a virgin???
Exactly, I feel sorry from bro zaid but still this is highlighting the problem these dawah bros are promoting secret wives, as there will always be men who will abuse women. 1 scholar said the right thing polgmny is a sunnah but u don’t have to do it by setting ur first wife family on fire
When I saw the sisters clip I was angry I was frustrated I was disgusted that a man proposed to her for “temporary marriage” and as a woman I instantly started hating the guy,attending lives and shaming and cursing him,I didn’t listen to the whole story,I sided with the woman simply because I’m a woman and I’ve seen prior many women that were wronged by men that apparently looked “religious and pious” . Then a week later I heard that the brothers video came out of his POV ,I went to watch the video with a mindset of “oh let’s see how he’s going to defend his mistakes” I listened to the whole video and I was still looking at it from the hate and my mind tagged him as “liar” because I didn’t want to be wrong,then that night I went to bed and I thought to myself about the Hadiths of suspicion and slander,I reflected back on suratul hujuraat,I remembered the time when Daud as judged without hearing both sides of the story and how the Quran talks about situation. Then I told myself that 1;) Yes it was wrong for a guy to approach a girl through her Dms and it is completely unislamic,BUT the girl was also responsible for reply to that DM because her reply wasn’t “I’m not talking to a man through DM’s” NOR did she block him instantly,Rather she went on with the conversation,and the way she was responding with mostly questions,it was evident and clear that she was looking for a way to defame that guy. 2;)The sister doesn’t talk about what she replied with,she doesn’t talk about the fact that the guy DID NOT PROPOSE TO HER ,BUT HE ASKED FOR HER OPINION!! She completely created her own scenario in her head and came to us with that. 3;)The brother apologized and regretted that he shouldn’t have asked for her opinion rather he should have gone to ask people of knowledge.But the sister has been silent ever since and did not apologize for the lies and misinformation she fed the whole online community. 4;) When they had witnesses and signed the contract,the sister made it look like the brother was the one who came with people to “MAKE her sign a contract” But she’s a grown up woman and people need to understand that single mothers are not babies,they willingly make decisions,she also willingly signed the contract. 4;) This whole situation was the guy asking for her opinion on a matter where a man wants to marry a single mother in the meantime he found another wife but would not divorce her. Wallahi we need to fear Allah and admit when we are wrong,if the brother is reading this I’m sorry for slandering your name and hating on you for what was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT your fault. MAY Allah forgive us and hide our shortcomings
Please rewatch her video. She already stated in her video that he was asking for advice/researching. As for misyar, most scholars are against it for the sake of children. It is bad enough a free woman will have less rights than a slave. But it's worse with children in the mix plus the secrecy (i.e. keeping it away from family).
We should tell those muslim women not marry someon who is married or have been married before because the are not virgin and those keep saving themeself just to get married to someon who has more wife and not virgin. See how muslim man only marrys virgin even tho they not virgin and have wifes they only follow sunnah for sex and to have virgins and they can't even pleasure those women and use for slave. Which is hypocrite we must tell muslim to have standard and call those man also used because they do this with Windows and divorced women. We must show theme they are not the only who want virgin
Slavery, 😂 this religion bans alcohol and porks but slavery is ok? Imagine non Muslim men did the same to female prisoners of war from Muslim country. How is this religion stuck in 5 the century. Oh lordddddd.
I dont think these women are talking about mufti menk, yasir qadhi, nouman ali khan, or even ahmad deedat, Zahir naik 😅 the "dawah men" like you, mohammad hijab and so on cant compare yourself with them.
@@ShofahikMiah but they haven’t achieved the level of a scholar. I don’t trust these TH-camr men/women. I’d rather go to a reputable scholar, or website etc for information.
@user-ki7ll1kp8n Many of these influencer dawah guys are filled with emotion and opinion. And don't come close to any scholar who are composed, respectful and speak facts according to Book and Sunnah.
A 27 year old not knowing whether its a good idea or not to marry a single mother in the mean time he looks for a traditional virgin wife but keeps the marriage a secret 🚩🚩🚩listening to it he might have been polite but it felt disgusting n im suprised all women didnt find this offensive.
This is completely intellectually dishonest He said not intent to divorce so the “until” narrative to justify the level of disgust is what is actually disgusting
Me too! Why are women defending him?! They are more shocked that he was proposing to someone else rather than her. The contents of his proposal are unchanged 🤮
You completely misunderstood him, firstly he explained his situation to the own who seek advice from similarly when you explained your pain to doctor to give you proper treatment. Basically, he is Muslim 27 years old he seek after halal marriage and he get proposal from a single mother but as he know exactly how his family is, so he reach out to another single mother that published a video in that matter seeking her opinion of asking the one she proposed to him to make their marriage secret to avoid any issues with his family who wouldn't tolerate their son to marry from a single mother. As his family searching for good virgin girl as his potential wife, they wouldn't accept let him marry from a single mother.
@@fareezaizat8684 no it's not, it has shattered the minds of young men and has seperated men and women completely, which will have a bigger effect Guys today are more judgemental than the women they blame so much
@@cardboard_hat feminism does it not most redpill talking point, feminism much worst compare to redpill, feminism is a movement and ideology, redpill so far i have listen only a criticism and realization of the evil agenda behind feminism
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When we say Dawah Guys we don’t mean the giant shuakh with PhDs. We mean 25-40 year old unqualified Dawah givers. Most of them don’t know they are talking about.
Rewatch the video because you missed the point. Don't say dawah guys at all. You are putting a negative connotation to the word dawah. Just say 'these people'. Also you don't need qualifications to give dawah.
@@Gearz4lyfe Also tell Ali Dawah and other brothers to not use term "hijabi" when criticizing Muslim women because they're putting a negative connotation to the word hijab. Just say "these sisters" or "this sister".
I can agree with everything he said apart from the fact that all men are polygamous in nature. Intimacy isn’t the only driver in life, there’s so many nuances to relationships. Living across 4 separate households, across 4 sets of kids spending a week a month in each house is not practical, doesn’t fulfil or protect anyone. What does fatherhood look like? Where’s the fabric of family in all of this? It’s mindless, ideal and really not for the man who wants to raise a strong, and bonded family. 😊
Men are polygynous by nature, whether we like it or not, that is simply the truth. Any man, if given a choice, would want that. The only reason polygyny isn't a norm today is because of financial issues.
He said all men are polygamous by nature not that everyone should do it. And even Allah says it but also implies it’s not for everyone I.e if you cannot be just marry only one. It’s not for you bro cos from your message it’s obvious your not a leader neither are you able to handle 1 women in your life. There are guys out there who can attract multiple women, raise multiple families etc. So instead of condemning just say its not for you which it won’t be for a lot of guys.
@@XxGamersxx1990 Sorry but there’s million biological, sociological evidences etc to show men are wired differently to women and vice versa. Men can have thousands of children(think ghenghis khan) woman can’t. Men want women for their bodies, women want men for what they can do for them in all aspect of life - think about a women’s dating requirements. Sex market/prostitition are mostly services for men, not for women. Men sex drive is consistent throughout life, womens fluctuates and dies sooner. Male experience is different from female and male have an intense drive for ongoing and variety based sex which the female does not experience to the same level, even if she can desire it. List goes on and on. Go figure.
Not tryna belittle anyone but its a fact that a lot of people have problems and heartaches within themselves, and instead of fixing and healing the problem, they blame others and it is easier to do that than to reach jnto your heart and fix the problem. This could potentially be the case here. Solving the root problem within the heart will create the best benefit and it will only help you in the long run. Its the best thing to do.
Lewisham Islamic Center’s 2 prominent Imams heard both Zaid and Sumayyah, went through their messages and voice notes and have ruled that it was Zaid who was wrong and that Umm Sumayyah has nothing to apologize for. Are you going to detract your statements now Ali Dawah? It’s always interesting to see how authentic or not human beings are.
He didn’t say that he would divorce her - he said he’d keep her as a placeholder to fulfill his desires until he finds the girl he ACTUALLY wants to marry
“dawah guys” aren’t all the same. i understand where it comes from though when you have a lot of incidents of them using women for their personal gains and using religion to manipulate. May Allah SWT guide and protect us all.
Muslims using terms like "dawah guys/bros" and "hijabis" for each other as an insult is no different than black folks throwing the N word at each other. Tragic how pejorative terms and phrases used by bigots eventually get internalized and adopted by very victims of their bigotry.
@@yemi3266 It also shows disrespect to Islam to use term "hijabi" to refer to women who made mistakes like you see in the title of this and other dawah channels. Be fair and apply same standards to everyone.
Why was he asking for advice some random hijabi online? He should have/could have asked this from the single mother that proposed to him in the first place.
It's a tough one tbh, as I went and watch both sides. I would lean more towards the sisters side here. The sister didn't claim he was talking about her she does mention in the start he reach out in regards advice and he was talking about some single mother. I think her talking on behalf of single women may have made the audience seem like she was refferring to herself, but it wasn't what I got from her video. This just shows how much we love gossiping and when things are left for interruptions we start making our own stories. As far as it goes for the brother. I don't understand the logic in reaching out to her. Every women is different regardless of her advice it doesn't mean the other sister would've had the same view lol He also left things open for interruptions on plenty of matters. He made it seem like single mothers aren't traditional wife, he mentioned finding a single mother now till he finds his vir wife, but never clarified this till she asked and than he said he'd keep her. His expectation were largely the women giving up majority of her rights, were as he gets majority of the benefits lol like mentioning he can provide but single mothers are loaded is lol even the secret part estenially they wouldn't do much, but meet up at her place, because they live in London, so if he went out with her there his family, friends, etc would see him and the secret would be out. All in all the brother has deeper matters and that's dealing with his family, what happens if his family never comes around, that puts the sister in a tough spot. The things he said if it was said to a father, they'd knock him out and I have a hard time seeing any wali apporve this arrangement in itself, so at the end this was for nothing from the brother side.
If his family don’t know then how is it a marriage? Sorry no excuses he got caught out he didn’t propose to her but he wants to be sneaky and have a secret marriage which needs a wali so he is not a person who should be giving dawah because he’s corrupt and a not good example he doesn’t want to marry her but he wants to commit a sin regardless. The point is why are u wanting to hide it??? That means his family and the virgin wife will be told Allie. she should expose
@@yourinternetsecretbestie there is no misconception if the family and the other wife don’t know he has another wife it’s deceit and it’s lying. Khadija was no hidden wife
The fact that this went public is by the will of Allah. Alhamdulilah. Maybe the prospective sister is a close friend of Allah and Allah wanted to protect her from marrying a man who will not protect her rights and treat her in the best way. By Allah, this whole situation has so much goodness in it. Zaid constantly speaks about wanting more than one wives and ok sure, sunnah. But why don't they look at Rasulalah salallahu alyahi wasalaam and his 25 long years of monogamous marriage? In the Arab times, polygamy was prevalent even though his marriage to Khadijah as well yet he remained monogamous. These Muslims who are trying to say having more than one wife is sunnah, make sure you're following the Quran and can treat and take care of each one in the same way otherwise just have one. And fast and have sabr until Allah grants you a mate.
The issues still remain the same!! Stop the bs. Sisters can let go of their rights so that you can get your rocks off? 😂😂. Haram! Those rights are to protect women from men like this so please, for the love of Allah, do not make this a thing that is normal.
No one is forcing you to let go of your rights. It's a unique marriage where you agree upfront rights and responsibilities. It's called being transparent. Respect the honesty. Also whatever the situation, it's better than zina.
@@alphauno6614 Not interested. Men like you can take your disgusting offers elsewhere. I wonder if you’d thank a man for his honesty if he came with an offer for your sister like that 😂
@@alphauno6614 sorry to tell you but I have heard a lot of married men still do Zina. I don’t run in those circles so I don’t know but yea. Also, just because it’s transparent doesn’t mean it’s good for you. A secret marriage that family do not know about, he is doing it to just sleep with you while he waits for his “real” wife. It’s sick.
It’s honestly his fault. He shouldn’t be going to a non Mahram messaging them and asking for this advice for his private needs. He didn’t even give context around receiving a proposal. He could go to a sheik and ask them or get advice from a Mandan female from his family cousins etc. Now everyone is blaming the girl for posting that video. Personally it’s the right thing to do, so other sisters don’t give up their rights for a man’s need. Women aren’t objects for men to satisfy their desire
I'm not sure how any of this really relates to you though. You seemingly have not done anything wrong so I don't know why you are taking it so personally, unless it is a personal matter. +Maybe the storyline got mixed up but at the end of the day, his words haven't really made a difference. It doesn't matter who he is, no one cares if he's some well known guy, many average men are like this too. Furthermore, 7:00 - This brother did in fact get angry at her when she said what he was saying was completely disrespectful and wrong. He did get offended because she didn't want a temporary marriage? So then she posted it online but covered his name and did not mention it at all, so I don't know how people found out it was Zaid.. The whole reason she wanted to speak up about this is to allow women to be aware of the dangers and to not trust people, despite their social status or what they are known for. Yes, they might be seen as pious but that does not mean everything they do is correct. People, regardless of gender, I have found are always going to have some sense of vulnerability. I must argue this would have allowed people to be more on guard and not to fall into temptations. The only reason I know about this whole single mother and Zaid situation is because my father sent it to me and he wanted me to be aware. I am sure you all should understand all of this too. "IN THE MEANTIME" is incredibly disrespectful. He thinks her expectations are low and she doesn't need to be provided for etc etc is nothing islamic. I get it she messaged him first but he still said what he said. I do enjoy your videos but in this aspect your points are not really adding up. Perhaps you just want to support a brother of yours, and so be it but we cannot discredit what we are learning from this. I don't think secrecy in marriage is right at all. He cannot plan a second wife if he doesn't even have a first wife. If you put yourself into the mind and body of a woman you would be agreeing. I always think the whole polygamous thing is only allowed for someone as great as our prophet because no average man could ever love all equally and care for all equally. Another thing why I believe people don't completely appreciate these dawah men is because they don't even have a proper education or a degree or what not and haven't fully studied the religion so instead speak about topics when all it seems like is they are doing it for fame because it has come to a point people listen to them more than sheikhs or scholars and imams. I could say more to elaborate but I shall stop here. Thank you for speaking some truth though.
I won’t lie since the whole Andrew Tate Craze I get mad gay vibes from Ali, this man would denounce the entirety of Islam, dignity, self-respect and everything good in this world, maybe even his daughters chastity if it meant defending an attractive guy online.
I don’t think the sisters are talking about people like you or the ones you mentioned when they talk about those dawah guys. I have a certain type of guys in mind too when I hear the term dawah guys. It’s just a term that is used for those guys who use religion to manipulate women and unfortunately they are growing in the communities
Ali you yourself said you have 3 daughter so please answer honestly and truthfully so the public can witness and for Allah to judge. If any one of YOUR daughters was in that situation and a man was thinking about making her his "second" wife or a second option for him to relieve himself of sin while in the process that he finds a virgin wife for himself. Please tell me would you be okay with this? would you agree to this marriage on behalf of your daughter as he wali?
Is it halal? If the answer is yes who are to come in between Allah's order? Not to mention he was simply asking for advice, fear Allah people. His mistake was talking to a non-mahram women, may Allah forgive him and guide him.
If all her rights are fulfilled, it is permissible in Islam, but frowned upon. The problem is with Zaid's family who have put his career before his human needs. He really should have gone to scholars instead of approaching a strange sister. If anything, THAT is what he is sinful of.
Othman, may God be pleased with him, married the two daughters of the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace. You can ask the Prophet how he felt after one of his daughters became a second wife. This is a stupid question
Akhi Ali may Allah bless you, BarakAllahu feek. However I am disappointed in some sisters and brothers exposing one another online. There is a war being waged on Islam and Muslims and, here we are pointing fingers at one another. Yes his words and perspective on single mothers is upsetting however, you should have addressed this privately and tell a SHEIKH that, you know would advise him and make him see his mistake. The Prophet SAW advised us on covering the faults of one another and advising and strengthening each other privately. Brothers please love and respect single mothers and divorcees. LET US BEWARE OF SOCIAL MEDIA for it is DESTROYING THE UMMAH. Assalamu alaikum warahmatullah..
Why is it that you blur the sister’s face during the video however you leave it on full display in the thumbnail? You’ve chosen to only blur that particular sister’s face during the video (which is understandable since she has a full face of makeup on and it can be a fitnah for many). However you’ve decided to choose THAT very sister’s face un-blurred for the thumbnail…. I feel we should have some continuity. Nonetheless, may Allah bless your work.
As a Muslim man, I have also criticized (Dawah ppl) many times, because i saw that most of them they lack wisdom and most amportent is: in many topics they say and behave in very, very questionbale manner, even things which is clearly against the teaching of Islam!!. but when i said (Dawah ppl) i didn't meant all of them or generalizing. May Allah bless and protect you brother Ali and your daughters and family.
Misyar also doesn't make sense. You can have a traditional marriage that is announced and split the bills. Read articles on how misyar plays out in Saudi as sex tourism. It was previously called a travelers marriage.
This is the problem. Brothers and sisters are at eachother's throats when we should be working together helping the ummah. May Allah guide us and continue to give us knowledge.
Lewisham Mosque has released a statement, clarifying everything. She has nothing to apologise for as was originally agreed in the contract. Since you made this video on this issue Ali Dawah it is your duty now to correctly inform the public and defend the sister against this slander.
There is a difference between the educated daees and ex-roadmen/young men who watch youtube videos and start preaching like sheikhs. We all know what 'these dawah guys' refers to. It isnt everyone doing dawah obviously.
No decent woman alive would not find Zaid’s statements derogatory and disrespectful! Admit that he was clearly and unequivocally proposing Mutah and he is degrading single motherhood ! Ali you are asking for him to apologise! For what! On the one hand he is wrong and on the other he is falsely accused! If it quacks like a duck and it looks like a duck it is a duck! Disgrace to anyone who tries to duck tape what’s blatantly obvious! Power to this lady for exposing him!
The sister did kind of put the brother in a bad light, though. And she was warning other sister about him when he was asking her a question. Also, the brothers' reputation was damaged, and people are slandering, gossiping, etc
Lol come now Ali, don't compare Ahmed Deedat to dawath boys on TH-cam. Yes some dawath guys on TH-cam are indeed sincere and helpful to the ummah, but others are just the opposite. Can't take naseeha without verifying the background. Mohammad Hijab for example does have a respectable background and is knowledgeable etc. so yeah, always do your own research.
@@Chilani2001But it was necessary to warm single mums. So what's wrong with warning based on a truthful incident. If she didn't mention his name, she is not to blame ppl getting to know who it was.
﴿ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَن تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَىٰ مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ﴾ [ الحجرات: 6] سورة : الحجرات - Al-Ḥujurāt - الجزء : ( 26 ) - الصفحة: ( 516 ) O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
Good on you Ali, thanks for the video & clarification. May Allah (SWT) accept it from you, preserve you, keep you sincere and grant you baraqa & increase you in knowledge.
In all due respect I'm a single mother and I don't have that vulnerability because I know who my Rabb is and it's never a man and never a celebrity. Man is just human and even good men mess up. But I know who my Rabb is so that creates a balanced attitude towards brothers. I can put him in his place and still hold space for him at the same time. No one is messing me around unless I let him, therefore it's not happening (bi ithni Allah) May we all be Increased in Iman, Focus on Allah SWT and the ability to hold our ground with both grace and firmness - Ameen
You personally may be a strong lady but single mothers in general are vulnerable individuals that need to be protected. Their families need to be close to them to guard them from human hyenas.
Alhumdullilah you're well grounded in your iman, but many other single mothers, even single women, are going through a tough time and are vulnerable so warning them about such wolves in sheep's clothing is a good idea.
@Tea962 alhamdulillah Very well. I only have good quality suitors, and when I'm ready to get married, it will be the best man, not the 'next man' It is possible to put someone in his or her place in a manner that is respectful and kind If he's a good enough person, then the conversation concludes positively with mutual dua But if he's still acting silly, then he gets blocked
Monogamy is sunnah too. Secret wife is haram lying is haram lying by omission is haram. It’s also unequal bc second wife would know and first one wouldn’t
Overall, my opinion is that the man is certainly wrong and should be corrected, but not exposed. To me he seemed like someone lost and needed advice but didnt get it. "Allah does not like negative thoughts to be voiced-except by those who have been wronged" - 4:148 As far as i know this woman wasnt wronged, rather a man shared his conflicting views and asked for advice. As for Ali Dawah, it is seen that he has talked about single mothers before. Overall, I believe the mans views are wrong and he should regret it but as he did not act on it and also sought advice on it before anything, he is not sinful, The woman exposing the man is haram and she should apologize to the man and repent. Ali Dawah is just someone commentating to the best of his knowledge and should not be blamed. My opinion not yours, you dont need to accept it, you are open to criticize it and i know some are going to ask but yes, I am a man!
I’m here friend and I aided in her replying to him, she didn’t agree to him being an amaanah he just said that himself. Ali if you want to see everything message me back. I’m a witness
Sister THOSE WHO LIKE TO SPREAD FITNAH AMONG MULSIMS SHALL BE PUNISHED SEVERLY FEAR ALLAH, IS IT HALAL TO SHARE HIS MESSAGES EVEN? shame on you the prophet says to cover for a Muslim even if he did a mistake not expose him like that and adding more to it tell you friend to fear allah
@@hudaguidance507 also I garuntee this is her ONLY experience with a dawah boy and knows or heard of one other situation and she goes and labels 1000s of dawah guys 😂😂
@@dubai_fitness What did she say about 1000s of dawah guys? I thought she talked about only one and even him she did not name, somebody else did. He just apologized to her in his vid for calling her a liar earlier and says that was not the case.
What you just said is so stupid bro. Then why does the whole world have to know about the disgrace of Palestinians? Or Syrians? Or ucranians? Or immigrants? Those are labels to pinpoint a group of INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEINGS. If it affects a human being on an individual level, it should matter to the whole world. God Read the Quran and stop listening to the dawah bros. They are better called deceiver bros.
Listening to that brothers voice notes he sounds like he would just use her temporarily. I do not advise that woman to marry him. I would advise Zaid not to marry her as well
he said with no intentions of divorce... he didnt say temperary . i cant blieve after findint the truth you have no concerns about her falsly slandering him all over the internet
@@dubai_fitnessIt's permissible for a woman to offer her hand, but did you not hear the way he spoke about her? "I'm finding it hard to control myself, how do you feel about me keeping you a secret, having you until someone younger and a virgin comes along". If you care about the sister you'd realise the brother talking about her like she's expendable. If that was my daughter id tell her steer clear and if that was my son i'd sy the same.
@@Urbanlensman HE WASNT TALKING ABOUT THE GIRL HE MSGD. He was talking about a girl that messaged HIM. AND HE DIDNT SAY HAVING HER UNTIL HER GETS A NEW ONE.. he said with no divorce in mind. Watch the whole video without being triggered.. look at the girl that messaged HIM asking HIM
@@dubai_fitness I'm sure he knows that having two wives is illegal in the West where he lives. How was he going to remain married to the single mom wife after marrying the single girl wife?
Women never recognize their wrong and accountability is their kryptonite. maybe this guy went about it the wrong way but the slander and break of Amana is 10000 worse. Thanks for showing once again your true nature to the world.
You are wrong! It wasn't Amana. He did ask her to be amana, but she didn't agree! She told him she was going to warn other single mothers. Go read what she wrote in the comment section on the same day she released the video! You are slandering her name, which is a sin as well!
LOL, do you have comprehension problems? he said at the discretion of the sister IN REGARDS TO FORGOING HER RIGHTS, not discretion in terms of it being a secret. the guy was sayin he doesnt need to ask HIS FAMILY as hes a man. he didnt say for her to keep hers a secret from her sister. the funniest thing is tht he didnt even propose to her, he didnt say temperary marriage, and she falsely slandered him all over the interenet and all you can do is misunderstand something at 18:04. u have nothing to say about her?
@dubai_fitness it seems like you have comprehension problems along with other issues. I am talking about the ruling of misyar and what it isn't. Further information on this can be found on islam qa. No I am not going to bad mouth anyone.
He should grow a pair quite frankly and tell his parents who he wants to marry instead of talking to women randomly over social media and considering a marriage that has no honour nor rights! Also, dawah speakers and shaykhs are the worst kind of men who mine and my friends have ever dealt with. It isn't just one case, two cases, its whole communities that have had experiences from toxic 'islamic' men from the West. Mainly reverts and single mothers or women who have spiritual issues.
Umm sumayyah was wronged by him but I believe whoever marries him would also be wronged too. I dont think no father would want to give his "virgin daughters" hand to such a man who thought of doing this or will do this in future so he needs to be made aware of this. Every woman stays chaste and dreams of marrying an unmarried guy like herself. Imagine the heart break when his new "virgin wife" finds out he couldn't wait a couple of months to get introduced and marry her but started offering himself to single mothers. It's actually good that this came out in public. 2 lives have been saved. Unless he changes his views he should get married. Obviously someone who's sinned and repented in the past is not who I'm talking about. I would marry such a person because they're repentance to Allah holds value. But such a guy who wants to use and abuse women by hiding marriages, it shows what kinda guy he is.
Heard the voice notes people who give dawah have more responsibility than the average person , it sounds like he was putting the feelers out there and see what happens it was wrong , I understand why she is offended but hearing that it doenst sound good at all hope he learns from this mistake single mothers shouldn’t be looked at as a second option this is the problem in our Muslim population .
@@BYABTheApex but was was he asking her if he didn’t intend it to be for her. Makes no logical sense. Go and ask the girl who proposed to you not some random other woman. He’s upset cause he got exposed and expected her to let him talk about his sexual urges with her like she’s cheap.
If someone does a bad thing you should only hold the individual accountable. The way those sisters said "Dawah guys" made it sound like they were criminals or something. People are already nervous to make dawah and because of this type of behavior they will shy away even more. Our prophet always told us not to blame an entire community for the sins of one person
Stop using terms like "dawah bros" and "hijabis" in your vid titles as pejoratives like Islamophobes do. If you disagree with another Muslim/Muslimah on something, simply using terms brother or sister would suffice and make your message more effective. Reject non Muslim concepts of feminism and red pill and come to Islam that is complete, balanced, just and honorable.
“Allaah does not like that the evil should be uttered in public except by him who has been wronged” [al-Nisa’ 4:148] The Prophet [Peace and Blessings of Allah upon him] said: “It is enough sin for a person to speak of everything that he hears.” advice in private, not in public.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT WAS A PROPOSAL OR NOT!!! He approached a woman asking her all these weird and strange questions or “advice” as he’s referring to it. He literally said he’s struggling to find a traditional wife - one who his family would approve of and one who they can share all the typical in law stuff and until then in the mean time he’s thinking of marrying a single mother because her expectations won’t be as high for a husband, she wouldn’t be that interested to know her in laws?!! What?! Why so? Well as he said cause she’s done it before. First brother it doesn’t matter if she’s had an experience with her ex in laws, this is a new marriage, she’s entering a new family.. is she not part of this family because she’s been married before? I don’t understand the connection.. She’d just want to be with someone to spend some quality time and save themselves from Zina mainly?! What?! Why so? Is she not getting married and starting a new life with someone? Why is it different if she’s been married before or not? This whole single mother for now until I find my virgin mentality is so disturbing and the idea of getting married to mainly preserve himself from Zina and keeping his wife a secret and I don’t know what is disrespectful for the woman he’s marrying… Maybe in some cases some single mothers who are struggling alone would accept that but approaching a sister and asking her all these sensitive questions is just not acceptable
Did he just say "single mothers are seen as trash in the Asian community". Audu billah thats not true wallah and a very unjust statement... Subhan Allah! 😔😔😔
By giving guys like these a free pass, you're creating a very dangerous and ugly world for your own daughters and grand daughters. God forbid, some of them will find themselves divorced or widowed with guys like these preying on them because guys like you made them think that they're doing nothing wrong.
I just unsubscribed to you. I’m no longer going to be watching your content because of your support for injustice against a single Muslim mother. The Lewisham Mosque has made clear our sister was fair in judgement and there was no incorrect information shared in her video about Zaid. Zaid warped the situation making it seem like she owed him an apology. For these manipulators may Allah SWT serve them justice. I am appalled and I pray Allah SWT protects us all from the unjust, ameen.
I keep asking the question would they have approached Khadeeja RA our mother in the same way because she had 2 children from 2 marriages before she married our prophet SAW. Imagine treating single mothers this way when we have the example of prophet Muhammad SAW to show us the way. Their mum and sisters would be ashamed. As would all of our mothers in Islam. May Allah SWT guide us all to emulate the prophet SAW
exactly
It's "Khadija" May Allah (SWT) Be Pleased with her,
@@PokeFlixia another issue with the ummah. Has to pick on spelling rather than the actual substance of the message. Two heaven points for you. For spelling it correctly. Do you feel better now? 😂 and for the record. It’s not peace be upon her. It’s may Allah SWT be pleased with her. raḍiyatu 'llāhu 'anha. She wasn’t a prophet. 5 heaven points to me. 😂
@@JameelASKhan oh, I'm a new revert muslim so I don't know that, thanks for correcting me!
@@PokeFlixiayou’re welcome Welcome to Islam. Welcome home. If I can add there was no need to antagonise me about a spelling. It was uncalled for. May Allah SWT make it easy for us all to be kinder. Reach out if you ever need help inshallah. Alhamdulilah.
Ali,
Lewisham islamic centre came out with a statement regarding the situation, and defending the sister.
Near the begininng of the statement:
"In light of what we have seen, read, and heard including the testimonies of events and the evidence presented publicly, in particular listening to the voice note and watching the video Umm Sumaya posted, we reject the allegation that she has lied, manipulated, or misconstrued events to suit an agenda, and we believe those who are saying such things about her are committing grave acts of slander and abuse. The voice note speaks for itself. The one issue which Zaid did not request was a temporary marriage, although the wording he used in the voice message could give that impression."
Ali Dawah has stated he doesn't agree
@@RayhaanaClariceReally? Where?
Imagine a virgin woman entered a marriage expecting that she is the 1st wife. Them suddenly she discovered the existence of another wife. Wow! Will you accept this scenario for your own daughter?
Or he lies about being a virgin... My biggest fear
Good point! Then if she got disgusted of his lies and losses trust and ask for a divorce, guess what, she is going to be labeled as a feminist lol. These men are unbelievable! What if his temporary single mother gets pregnant? How are the kids going to meet his family? I'm pretty sure he will make another lie! What gives him the right to ruin the lives of all these people just for the sake of full fulfillment of his desires!?
Great another one. Do you think he won’t tell his second wife that he is already married ? Think before typing nonsense.
@@KHALIF-7 He doesnt have to. He can disclose that information.
He wudnt say hakuna matata with that! That's like a sister not saying she has kids . She kept silent with that and the brother just assumed she has no kids and never asked knowing well he wrote in his profile no kids
Read ayat kursi after every salah to be protected from jahanam and enter jannah!
@@TS-zd2ud where does he testify? stop yapping and come with evidence!!!
@@TS-zd2ud proof?
@@TS-zd2ud and btw Jesus never said he died for your sins nor did he say he was god.
@@TS-zd2ud what are you even on about lol?
@@TS-zd2udYou totally disregard the Old Testament, There is only One God stop deceiving yourself and people
It deeply upset me to realize how little regard he has for single mothers. He views them as temporary placeholders, merely satisfying his needs until he finds something he deems more desirable.
Did he actually state that? He released a video saying he never wanted a temporary marriage or anything like that
no sister. Prophet SAW Married single mothers with kids except aisha R.A. follow prophet as example not those guys.
Literally NOTHING that he said indicates that he sees marriage to single mothers as "temporary", why are you perpetuating a disgusting lie for which you will be held to account?
@@Thereadinghoek ZAID EXPLICITLY ELABORATES THAT HE ISN'T TALKING ABOUT DIVORCING
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills arguing with these cancerous feminists in the comments...
He literally mentioned it wouldn't be temporary.
Wallahi if a guy approached my sister the way this guy did i would hurt him 😡.How dare he states single mothers standards are low than a virgin women. He wanted to marry her for affection until he finds a "traditional" women. My big sister is a single mother and hearing this dude pisses me off. Men need to approach him and correct him before he gets fireworks.He just wanted her for affection😑The nerve on him. There is no difference between a single mother and a virgin woman.Single mothers (not all) are strong and they are capable of raising kids. I'M 20 and when i decide it time to get married i won't mind marrying a single mother even if she is older than me. Alot of single mothers are strong,she already has experience in being a mum,most single mothers i know are close to thier faith so they can help strengthen your iman. Alot of them are mature . I'm slandering this brother but where i come from,my big sis name and couple others is always being whispered by women in my community ,not only by women but by young girls who aren't even married.These are girls who are unable to match my sis even in thier dreams.My sis who is 28 is the mother of 2 kids.She was physically and mentally abused by her ex..I had no bond with her untill she moved back home.She moving back home was a gift from allah because she taught me my islamic deen ,help me throughout my schooling years.She used to work and at night she would do my school protects since i hated it.She forced me get good grades.She did alot for me.Even though she went through torture during her marriage,she still never let that effect her .And she has more honour and respect than most "virgin" girls i know.
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Very well said, brother!
There is hope to see not all men defending his vile actions. Your big sis sounds wonderful 💕
As salaamu alaykum...Fear Allah akhi...gives evidence Qur'an and Sunnah that you can hurt a muslim for asking sincere advice, he wasn't calling her to haraam...pipe down akhi don't get silly with your emotions.
@@somethingelse4916 You might like to read what the imams in the case ruled. What he did was wrong and it shouldn’t be so difficult to denounce his behaviour. Apparently his actions are fine with you
8:45 Subhanallah! The community around me made me feel, after I got widowed, and I was only a Muslim for two years at that point, that I'm "used" and no good. I started to believe that. And one man and his wife took advantage of me. She made me marry her man, to blame me for her problems and treat me like a slave. He brought one of his friends, who didn't even know me, just from people's gossip, and thought bad about me, to be my waliy. After I married him, I was first showered with love, than beaten up more and more by him, when he had problems with his wife and needed to let off steam. And when I wanted to leave he said: “No probelm! Leave! Nobody wants you anymore anyways, because you're used and crazy.” I believed it and stayed for 18 years. 😢
They will taste the consequences on judgment day. Alhamdulillah you eventually got out. You are special in the eyes of Allah, and no one can tell you otherwise. Take time to get closer to Allah and heal your heart. InshaAllah, one day you'll have an amazing righteous husband.
Remember, hurt people, hurt people. The ugliness that comes from people is a reflection of their diseased heart and it has nothing to do with you or how you are. Never allow anyone to tell you who YOU are.
May Allah bless you and make your matters easy for you.
Sincerely, a revert single mom. ❤
Your mad! U should have taken him to the police u are crazy to allow that to happen to u for 18 years 😂
@@Londz12 dont judge them :) she was manipulated and gaslighted. Its not her fault at all, these things do happen. maybe its better to delete your comment before she reads it.
@redalert3727 don't tell me what to do
I meant what I said.. yes, it does happen, and it's sad to hear, but come on, 18 years of abuse? where does this person live? We are not living in ancient times! Men and women go through domestic violence. It does happen, and some people remain trapped because of love or kids, but come on, not 18 years! That's next level
@@Londz12 There was even a case of someone who was enslaved in England for more than 18 years. Things happen. I dont mean to tell you what to do :) but i think it may be best to delete your comment, or at least edit it slightly. Its up to you at the end of the day. But yeah, she was a new revert so she was navigating the world anew and taken advantage of. So i dont blame her.
I think it’s a combo of a few things :
- Defending and Hanging in the wrong circles with ppl known for being abusive to women example Andrew tate and Mahdi T
- Obsession with topics about women, hijab and polygamy often coming across as a fetish.
- Adoption of redpill ideologies
- That hasanat guy being exposed for being a whole non muslim, doesn’t help either.
ALL OF THESE THINGS MAKE WOMEN VERY DISTRUSTING OF DAWAH MEN.
Doesn't matter. You don't generalise. Period!! It's a sin to group people and hate them. The end.
Also, even if it is 100% proven that someone sinned, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND MIND OUR BUSINESS!!! Aaaaaalllll of these people spreading so much hatred and insults in this matter (either side), will be regretting it HORRIBLY after their last breath!! People have forgotten the warnings and punishments of the grave and the hereafter from Allah SWT. No wonder the condition of our current Ummah!!
@@syedhasanmohiuddin827there’s a huge difference between sinning and actively hurting people, these men mentioned in the comment have hurt women and aren’t very good people.
There’re things you just cannot turn a blind eye to .
Also they did not “sin” secretly they were loud and proud about it.
You mentioned one name. If these brothers exposed 2 or 3 crazy women, should they start lambasting all women? Seriously calm down and be measured in your thinking.
@@alphauno6614woman have been on the other hand of the table for almost a millennia. Keep your ass down. Lmfao imagine he marries a virgin girl the wife would expect him to be virgin too. Wouldn't she. Disgusting is the word for these type of men.
Futher part of Lewisham Islamic Centre's statement:
"There are unfortunately many channels and individuals who are beginning to comment on this topic amongst others, who are not qualified in the Islamic sciences, nor are they qualified as judges or mediators, many of them have not yet reached their late 20s let alone an age of maturity. This itself is haram and an act of transgression. They will stand in front of Allah on the day of judgement, and we strongly advise all who are not involved in this matter on the ground to take down any content they have uploaded online and to keep their tongues out of this matter just as Allah has kept their bodies out of it."
Ali won’t take it down even if Allah Himself tells him to- because Ali doesn’t worship Allah, (I mean how could he if those who are learned and closest to Allah advise him to and he doesn’t??), Ali worships views and money.
@@Truthivist101 totally, he sided with andrew tate when he said he was god. Is he even a muslim?
@@marziyashaikh3748 exactly, Ali’s greed for fame, views, likes and money initially mislead him, but the problem is actually his culture that he was unable to let go of when he reverted to Islam, that culture that tells him that men can do no wrong and women are always in the wrong, that backward Turkish culture and his own insecurity and unworthiness as a man has caused him to fall into the trap of worshipping himself- or worshipping men who he is desperate to be like. If I was non Muslim I would think Ali was gay the way he d-rides for men who are so obviously in the wrong. But you’ll be surprised how many of these influencer da’ee are secretly in mutually beneficial or illicit relationships. Not only that but the problematic yes-man wife who basically manipulates Ali into believing that she is the only good woman on earth (she does this out of insecurity knowing how desperately her husband wants more attractive wives), she manipulates him by always going against attractive females and making them out to be such terrible Muslim women, you’ll see - remember that woman and her daughter - the daughter had gone back to live with her dad, mother was abusing the daughter with her new husband. Daughter was more attractive than her mother and Ali in that video said “I spoke to my wife”, and criticised the makeup of the daughter even though the mother was wearing even more makeup! every single time this man speaks blatant wrong and is unjustly against any attractive woman - his wife is involved. He confidently thinks he’s right and not being sexist because his wife has his brains all boggled and muffled - she needs to keep him that way I guess, brothers beware, women do this a lot, extremely manipulative especially when they are insecure.
@@Truthivist101 This is a disgusting comment. Just because you didn't like Ali's opinion on the matter doesn't mean you now go around takfiring him. What a horrible thing to do. Keep your emotions in check.
@@alphauno6614 I will call anyone who places their own ego and desires above the commands of scholars and learned people such as imams carrying out voluntary work in the communities for the sake of Allah a kafir. You can be all emotional about it crying about takfiring someone and defending a jahil like Ali, but I will stand firmly on the side of scholars and imams and Islam with this one
I think both sides need to consider before posting. Some Hijabi's and Dawahs bros are having too much drama right now only for clout. That is also a sign of akhirah. Subhanaallah!!!
What happened
I m confused
@@GHURABA_DUNYA This guy Zaid who does dawah on social media reached out to a Muslim single mother and proposed the idea of a secret temporary marriage to her so that his physical needs can be met while he waited to find a single girl for a proper traditional marriage. She exposed him so other Muslim women can be warned about him and others like him.
@@blackcatmuezza9338did you even watch brother Ali's video? 😂
@@GHURABA_DUNYAthe brother went to that sister for advice as a single mother proposed to him for marriage. And he was asking the wrong person for advice indeed. He should have gone to the senior people of knowledge instead of her.
He was asking her for advice if he should accept that single mother's proposal or not, because she is also a single mother and he wanted to know her perspective. When this sister asked him what he will do after getting a traditional wife, he replied that he will still keep this wife and take care of her child. There was no talking of temporary marriage or anything, as he wrote in her dm that he will keep her even when he gets a traditional wife. But from that sister's video misconceptions spread everywhere and people thought he wanted a temporary secret marriage with that sister and then divorce her (Which is not the case). And she made "some part" of their conversation public, which was wrong. Truly wrong. That brother was wrong for approaching her. And that sister was wrong for making this public.
Don't listen to anything people tell you unless you know what's going on and you hear the story from both sides.
Now that brother and sister privately had a conversation with some Imams and solved it, and that sister said she will also post a video clarifying everything as her video spread a huge misconception about him.
May Allah forgive us and protect us from the traps of Shaitaan. Ameen.
@@NotaCrosstian He talks too much, so no. However, my comment is about the incident itself, not about Ali's commentary on it.
Lewishham Islamic Centre responded and said the sister is not a liar. Please correct your followers and friends with this new information.
so after the recent statement released by the Imams from Lewisham Masjid, it is clear that sister Umm Sumayyah has nothing to apologise for. In fact NONE of this would have happened if Zaid didn’t come into her DM’s free mixing and talking about his struggles to stay away from zina.
Allah swt has exposed the liar and ‘virgin girls’ need to be extremely mindful when approached by these dawah bros, as clearly some do not have the emotional maturity to be a husband.
मैं इस्लाम धर्म को कबूल करता
Don’t generalise dawah guys under the actions of a few, jazakillah Khairan
she must apologise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😡🤬
Also, lying is haram, not treating and loving all your wives equally is haram. Looking down on people is haram. Messaging a non Mahram is also haram. And when the sister exposes him, that’s a big deal to these Dawah brothers ? they’ve basically disregarded all the haram things this brother had done, and also love the confident of them asking which part about this is haram ? Every part of it, full stop
I wish you speak with knowledge, the Prophet peace be upon him loved khadijah may Allah bless her more than anyone else including his other wives, and when he asked about most dearest people to him he without hesitation mentioned Aisha may Allah bless her.
Amr b. al-'As reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent him in command of the army despatched to Dhat-as-Salasil. When 'Amr b. al-'As came back to the Prophet (ﷺ) he said:
{Who amongst people are dearest to you? He said: A'isha. He then said: Who amongst men? He said: Her father, and I said: And who next? He said: Umar. He then enumerated some other men}.[Sahih Muslim 2384].
That shows you even the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him love some of his wives more than others but still he didn't injustice with anyone of them, so he was spending the same time with them also give them the same amount of allowances, play and laugh with them all similarly. Even in his last days he asked them permission to stay at A'isha may Allah bless her place for his last days, he didn't ask to spend his last days at anyone else from all of his wives.
Does not feel good when someone generalizes does it ...Dawah guys!
What about all the generalization that are made regarding women, muslims women, educated women's, hijabis that show their hair slightly, make up wearing hijabis, none hijab wearing muslim women, divorcees, women with a past etc. Constantly being the topic of your videos.
Whataboutism. Great way to engage in a healthy dialogue.
@@fatimapatel3792 tell ‘em what, that they shouldn't preach the Word of God on earth? Would you rather those who promote night clubs and drinking to monopolise the air waves?
@@fatimapatel3792 Why are you generalising all night club goers? Some of them could be watching these videos to understand the truth. It's amazing how you did the very thing you criticised others for when it came to something you felt passionate about.
Sister Fatima, stop talking to strangers on the internet and go do something productive in life.
So, some men doing dawah became threats to our sisters thus to the whole ummah, and you still find a way to make it about you by saying why generalizing ? Craaaazy
Insane. They are taking advantage of women under the guise of dawah. But the problem is she said "dawah guys".
@@munamuhammad2896 no like fr? We should stop giving them a platform and just go back the shuyukh… real ones
@@mayyyyyy9319 true. these Andrew Tate wannabes are getting out of control !
@@munamuhammad2896what do you mean by taking advantage of like speaking against feminsim
No matter who's in the wrong or right, a man blatantly asking a single mum that he wants to marry her until he finds a suitable wife who is traditional and his family approve off is disgusting in many ways. Your intention is not to marry out of respect of looking after the woman and the child, but clearly to fulfil your desires in a halal way. Otherwise why not just go for any other women who aren't married and virgins??? Doesn't make sense to include until he finds someone suitable... Sounds as though she's a side thing until he gets what he wants.
Are you dense? He explained that he didn't approach her for marriage, but rather another single mother approached him for marriage and he came to her for advice as she is a single mother too. That was wrong but for the sister to twist it as if he proposed to her and wanted to keep it secret etc is just disgusting and slander of the highest form. Put your bias against men aside and look at the facts.
@@MrKingPwnage The issue here is not his intended target but rather his thought process. He was looking for a temporary marriage with a single mother because, in his own words, they have "low expectations". Before you jump and say that it wasn't going to be a temporary marriage, let me remind you that he lives in the West where polygyny is illegal. That is why he was talking about keeping the single mother wife a secret from his family. Either he was going to use the single mother then divorce her when he found the wife of his dreams, which means he was going to have a temporary marriage...haram...or he was going to keep the single mother as a secret second wife...also haram...in order to keep himself out of legal trouble. The guy's shady. I'm glad he got exposed and humiliated.
It’s absolutely wrong. He wasn’t looking for a temporary marriage. He’s posted it on his channel
@@MrKingPwnage if he's so practicing why not approach the scholars and ask for their advice, why DM a woman who is pretty with a full face of makeup on social media. Clearly that's saying something already. It's always one rule for men and another for women
He was telling her what she as a single mother wants - he decided a divorced single mum didn't want a big waleema, didn't need money because they are loaded, didn't care about having an extended family / in-laws, wanted to keep it secret, and wanted to have a single mum "until" he found the virgin -
I am a muslim sister. But I get annoyed by sisters generalising all dawah brothers.
That arab dawah guy was silly and lacked islamic knowledge and tried to stretch rules , but he never stalked and forced the girl. He had a dumb proposal, but he did not perv on her.
The sisters should avoid putting theirs pic online, I never do it to save the hassle of dealing with dumb messages and risking ourselves to pervs. I never let my sisters and daughters ever to join social media.
Forever wearing my burka
Yes I also don't get the logic behind wearing a hijab and tons of makeup at the same time, but hey...like all the guys here defending the man in this incident are saying, don't judge! Also, I don't think she generalized all dawah brothers. She said "dawah bro" in singular. It still does subliminally indict all dawah brothers just like the same dawah brothers using the word "hijabi" in all the negative vid titles. That also generalizes and shows all Muslim women who wear hijab in a negative light. Both sides need to stop this kind of behavior ASAP.
May Allah bless you, sister. But this Zayd brother has knowledge just to let you know. But, all the children of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent.
He didn’t even propose to her.. like he naively just asked for her advice 😭
@@coolalatool33 I don't know what cracked me up more, your use of word "naively" for him or the crying emoji but thanks for the laugh anyway🤣
Ofcourse you pakistani you grow up protect bad man
When Ali mentioned he had 3 daughters, the following came to mind straight away subhan'Allah:
"Whoever has three daughters and is patient towards them, and feeds them, gives them to drink, and clothes them from his wealth; they will be a shield for him from the Fire on the Day of Resurrection"
May Allah reward you for sharing the Hadith of the Prophet ﷺ
@@abeltesfamariam8883 and may Allah reward you for your dua' and accept it upon you tenfold, as maybe your comment is the means that someone else see's this and shares it on with others, ameen!
My dad, may Allah grant him jannah, also used tell us girls that daughters are a blessing from Allah. I didn't know what he meant by it back then but realized later when I came across this hadith.
@@blackcatmuezza9338 Sons are blessing too from Allah
@@j86485 Oh for crying out loud get out of this state of perpetual self pity already. You're exhausting. Of course all children are blessing but we're specifically discussing Prophet's hadith about daughters right now. The Prophet(PBUH) wasn't saying that sons are not a blessing just because talked about daughters, and neither was my dad.
In light of the fact that the Lewisham Mosque has released a statement, the most appropriate thing for you to do is to take this video down. I am genuinely asking you Ali, you are not doing a service to this ummah by having this video up, you are creating a very big disservice to everyone involved. If I were you, I would take the Imam's advice - as one unquestionably should and delete this video.
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@@LiveLaugh23 no
You give opportunities to people who want to make lying /defamation/allegations the truth.
What did the girl do besides lying and not using the Quran/Hadiths or scholars to make her argument.
These things help us in understanding the situation of Muslims and how they’re acting.
It’s time to stop hypocrites. An imam saying something needs to first be understood regarding if what he’s saying is based on Quran and Hadiths rather than feeling shame about the ummah like all of us have to.
100 percent
This guy need to feed his family, can’t take down the video. All his income evolves on this youtube channel
it will hurt his tosic male ego and disappoint his red pill muslim bro following, he doesnt have the guts to do it
Ali dawah casually putting himself on the same level as the honourable Ahmed Deedat. Just goes to show how deluded these social media dawah guys are because Ali you are not a certified dawah man. You are merely someone who debates because you have a passion for it.
He spreads the message of Islam and debates and has done so for years.. And it’s not fair to generalise people. Just like we cannot generalise that all single mothers are at fault for being divorced.
@Hahahaha-7 yes im not denying he spreads dawah but you got to be super naive if you think he has delivered islamic lectures and studied to a high level of theology to put himself on the same level. He does other soci talk shows that is not segregated. You going to call that a dawah too . Did those daees do such things? No. Because they were far to educated to go down such routes.
@@kaystar1844 What do you mean far too educated. This is a Muslim brother who converted to Islam, he has an Islamic channel that helps to spread information, and spreads the message of Islam. What is wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with going down this route. Also no he is not a social media deluded dawah guy. You said he’s merely someone who debates. We need people like him to stand up for Islam. If it wasn’t for people like him do you think people who don’t debate like you would call people to Islam. It’s because of Muslims like him Islam is the fastest growing religion..
@Hahahaha-7 I don't have the energy to argue with your dire lack of comprehension and coming out with silly strawman arguments. What's his reversion got to do with anything? Honestly please read books. Your comprehension needs a little seeing to. The pedestal you've just put Ali on who is a debater not a learned scholar is whats wrong with your head and comprehension.
His question was to marry a single mother secretly and then later marry a virgin wife that the family will know. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that is alot.
marry a single mother secretly to fulfil his 'needs'. What he was saying was totally wild and shocking.
@@zarlashtkhan3740 Yeah! It was demeaning, but an honest question. Honestly, he should of known how wrong he sounds. It was the keeping it from his family too that got me thinking he is misguided by this dunya. I hope Allah guides men like this.
is this haram? if not then leave your opinions and remain silent
@@mohammada3116 yes it is haram lmfao you cant get married secretly, plus what he did of the talking to the woman was HARAM. you stop being so emotional and wanting to defend every male u see and grow up
@@mohammada3116 Who practiced this during the Prophet or Sahabas time? Where is the reference to this being implemented? Even the scholars have disallowed this for infringing on spousal rights and causing discord. Anyone that has a basic understanding of the rights of spouses and the institution of marriage in Islam would not support such a marriage. Don't promote such lowly innovations and remain silent.
No smoke without fire, we have a big dawah bro scene here and the scandalous situations they’ve put women in is unfortunately not a rare situation.
They’re known as single mother makers, and using single or young females.
Pretty sad Ali decided to go full defence rather than taking a moment to recognise that taking advantage of women has been going for decades.
Men love to not take accountability.. Sadly, he is just a man as well
The younger generation has lots of passion but no brains unfortunately. I'm 45 and have realised intelligence & wisdom is more uncommon than you think !! There are more pink diamonds in the world than wise intelligent people!!
Should a 31 year old start university or is he too late for that?
@@Logicalsane it's never to late to learn.
This brother is weird for asking such a question especially to a single mother
Right!! He started with I’m going a research. Not even proposing to her directly or asking her wali number
why we exposing it even more? ur comment is useless, fear Allah
@@mohammada3116 well he is wrong, like it or not
@@mohammada3116 You need to fear Allah because predators like these will feel safe coming after your own daughters one day if people like you continue discouraging others from exposing them.
Why would he propose to her, that was never the plan or intention. He messaged her for advice as a single mother had proposed to HIM.
This is absolutely disgusting.. why would a man go to a non mahram who is a single mother asking for a advice that can he fulfill his needs with a single mother till he finds a virgin......
What about the non married girl.. if he desires a virgin woman why she should marry a non virgin man SHAME ON THIS MAN.... A BIG SHAME
He only value his own needs
Because not every single mother even wants a full time husband? Some women are soooo overbearing and protective of their kids that the thought of a man who is not their biological father discipling them makes them irate. Yet these women still want a husband because they understand zina is a grave evil. It's not a preposterous idea for a man to essentially be a part time husband to a single mother without interfering with her parenting of her children. Depends on circumstances and priorities.
@@alphauno6614 You have no idea about women's psychology so stop top speaking for them, please. As a mom of a six yr old myself I'll tell you that a mother who's soooo overbearing and protective would NEVER put her kids through the embarrassment and trauma of a part time dad coming around once in while only to disappear in mommy's bedroom, someone who can't take them out anywhere because his marriage or whatever you want to call it is a secret that they can't share with their friends or even biological dad's family. Kids forced into such perverse arrangements will be messed up for life. They'll resent their moms and even Islam bcz this garbage is being presented to them in an Islamic packaging. If you keep promoting and defending this practice, 20-30 yrs later you may have countless ex-Muslim ted bundys running around.
@@alphauno6614Said from the perspective of a man.
No woman would agree to what zaid offered and no brother or father would sit around as they see a male stranger approach their sister or daughter in that way. He’d be beaten up and held accountable
This is part of a much deeper problem of marriages being made too difficult by parents, over sexualised society, men allowing theirs desires to direct their actions, sisters having very high expectations and people not putting enough effort to keep their marriages
Now the question of Misyar marriages are debated by scholars, some say permissible however temporary or secret marriages have outright been rejected, his actions were in poor taste but people need to understand the root of the problem rather than decapitate him
Our young men need to find wives and our sisters, single mum or otherwise need husbands
Unfortunately some single mums have agreed to this in the past, we can’t judge them for it, they need companionship and are struggling to find proper husbands
I think what blew this whole situation out of proportion is, that it is actually a very fragile underlying issue in society right now.
I don’t think it was so much to do with what party did what, but more to do with the beliefs & views on single mothers right now and how men view their worths. This is what fuelled so much reaction from women (not necessarily feminists).
What single mothers find so outrageous is the stereotypical assumption of them being referred to as last options, unworthy, temporary pass times, beneath virgins, non-traditional feminists or unworthy of actual marriage/wifey status etc. This narrative has been especially prevalent in current times. Single mothers are exhausted from how hard their lives already are and how demanding their lifestyles as 24/7 carers can get, that it’s confusing where anyone would assume they have no value. They feel they do all this work as the backbone of society, to breed and raise the next generation, yet it takes one man to come along and say they’re useless, unfavourable, undesirable, expired, damaged goods etc. They are human too and a reaction is inevitable.
Similarly, to how it is unfair to group all Dawah guys under one umbrella persona, it is unfair to group all single mothers under those hurtful stigmas. Not every single mother is the same and it’s hurtful for them to read things like “single mothers are divorced for a reason, don’t marry them” or “single mothers are liberal feminists” just because of the circumstances Allah destined for them.
Unfortunately, a lot of men in our generation have this view of divorcees/widows/ single moms, that they’re the bottle of the barrel and not worth any consideration and I guess single mothers have just grown wary of this labelling.
But like you said this ties in with how much healing and accountability a woman has done. It’s up to how strong she trains her mind to be whether she believes this mentality or ignores it.
Coming out of divorce tends to leave women weak and vulnerable and prone to low self esteem. When a woman leaves a marriage honourably with her kids and is just surviving day to day raising her kids on her own, it can be very disheartening to hear what society thinks of her worth. She can easily begin to believe what is being said or it can go the other way and inflame the ongoing “gender wars.”
I agree, it’s a woman’s own responsibility to work on her low self esteem post divorce and to limit her exposure to hurtful views on single mothers online. Online isn’t reality and it can be consuming to constantly believe every single thing that is spewed there until it distorts one’s view of their actual reality.
I also agree with your point that suddenly everyone’s ex-husband is a narcissist or abuser, when really it’s just bottled feelings that haven’t been worked through yet. This doesn’t discredit those who actually survived domestic abuse though of course.
Well done for bringing awareness to this current sensitive issue even if you started bringing clarity on it 10 years ago, it is just as important now. JazakAllahu Kheiran, may Allah reward your intentions.
Imagine the married to someone 1st & later u r demoted to 2nd wife cos u r single mom To be honest no woman will want be degraded like that.
Im just sadness by his opinion view of single mom, as not equal to a traditional woman.
Firstly, there's no such thing as "first" and "second" wife - All women are the same in a marriage. Secondly, he's being upfront with his intentions. It's obviously a unique scenario that could work for some single mothers. Otherwise if he was going to offer all the rights and responsibilities then why wouldn't he just marry another single virgin woman? Why marry an older woman, with kids, financially supporting and protecting them? Where's the incentive?
In Islam, men are supposed to protect women, but nowadays we often see the opposite (I am not generalizing). The men in the comments who justify these actions are the same ones who justify the actions of pedophiles and rapists against women and young girls. You say we need to hear his side, but this man has already responded to people's messages and justifies his actions. Instead of seeking justice, you justify these actions. la hawla wala quwata ila billah
right, would this ali be okay if a guy spoke to his sister like that? they dont see us as their sistgers in islam they see us as their enemies
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It's because they weren't raised right. That's an issue in the Ummah, too. Many of them are mama's boys and were raised entitled, so they don't know how to respect a human being, let alone women.
those people does not represent Islam. Alhamdulillah, I'm Muslim, and I have brothers who respect me and would protect me from anyone who wanted to harm me.
Why do you all like to play victim? A couple men are defending him, A couple men are still saying he was wrong. He did make a video and didn't justify his actions. Apologized for what needed apologies for and clarified the slanders.
If you were fair you'll equally be asking why the lady ruined his life when he didn't make many of the claims people are saying he did. And thank you, muslim men do not support pedophiles or rapists.
As someone who was married to one of these dawah guys from speakers corner as a second wife, things aren't always what they seem. Some guys don't take their own advice to others when it comes to how to treat your wife right or equal. In this situation, this could have been avoided. He was asking for advice, yes his views on single mothers are not right but again he was asking for advice and she didn't have to expose him like that. She could have just said she's not interested in advising him if that's the case because his mindset on single mothers is wrong or given actual advice. And Ali is absolutely right about the first wives destroying marriage with the second wives. Men fear their first wives enough to ruin their marriage and treat their second wives like second class citizen's and absolutely unequal leaving the second wife no option but to leave the marriage. Abuse shouldn't be tolerated or rewarded.
I am sorry but your comment completely makes no sense!
@@jeenadjo1238 it does, many of these youtuber dawah guys are just stupid and hypocritical and dont follow deen, many of them are just redpill in disguise. gross
These men shouldn't be having two wives in the first place. Do you think a woman is a robot with no feelings? Do you think the first wife would be happy to share her man?
If your wife is the type of person to get jealous if you marry twice then you shouldnt do it in the first place. If you need to marry someone else then maybe have a discussion with your wife and if she disagrees you can divorce her on mutual agreement. That is way better than going through months or years of drama. That's why its important to do background checks on both males and females before you get married to them. Look online, ask around in the neighborhood. Prevention is always better than treatment. I see far too many people suffer from marrying the wrong person and getting their life destroyed
As your username say all not islamic way. Please be honest with your name and who your allegiance is for spread this misinformation.
My understanding is a Nikah cannot be hidden and kept a secret from family, as Sunni Muslims. . So what he’s proposing is wrong. I’m far from an expert on Islamic matters. This is what I have read. Is this correct?
I think he meant from his family. A man doesn't need to inform his parents of who he is going to marry.
This video hasn't made things better . In fact it has made the situation widespread.
good because tht poor brother got falsely slandered so his name needs to be cleared
Good because many men want to take advantage of women
@@AmeeB-oo1lr you obviously didn’t watch the video
@@dubai_fitnessyou obviously haven’t seen the statement released by Lewisham Mosque after they reviewed the material, they have defended the sisters honour and stated categorically that she has nothing to apologise for. That woman did a favour to all the women who were idolising Zaid.
@@Truthivist101 she said he wanted temporary marriage and that he wanted to propose to her. And iluded he said for her to keep it a secret too. She slandered him. They said she shouldn’t have done that.. where’s her public apology.. check Ali dawah new vid
Wait a minute that guy was saying that he will do secret marriage with a woman who single mother and but want a virgin girl for his traditional marrige... basically a temporary marriage... isn't it haram ..and if both party agree on temporary marriage knowingly only based on desire..i don't know what to say but I would stay out of it ....and a virgin girl would want a virgin boy generally... So would that guy let his traditional virgin wife know before marriage that he is not a virgin???
Exactly, I feel sorry from bro zaid but still this is highlighting the problem these dawah bros are promoting secret wives, as there will always be men who will abuse women. 1 scholar said the right thing polgmny is a sunnah but u don’t have to do it by setting ur first wife family on fire
While Palestine ppl getting slaughtered by Isreal w Muslims just blaming each other …blah blah blah
Have you stopped eating and sleeping because of what is happening in Gaza?
@@bolaelegbede7843 u do know its the truth
@@bolaelegbede7843 u see what I mean blame8mg each other
.blah blah blah
People issues dosn't go away. We focus and should focus more on palastine, Sudan and Congo of course. But peoples issues are still there....
@@bolaelegbede7843nonsense comment proved the comment correct
When I saw the sisters clip I was angry I was frustrated I was disgusted that a man proposed to her for “temporary marriage” and as a woman I instantly started hating the guy,attending lives and shaming and cursing him,I didn’t listen to the whole story,I sided with the woman simply because I’m a woman and I’ve seen prior many women that were wronged by men that apparently looked “religious and pious” . Then a week later I heard that the brothers video came out of his POV ,I went to watch the video with a mindset of “oh let’s see how he’s going to defend his mistakes” I listened to the whole video and I was still looking at it from the hate and my mind tagged him as “liar” because I didn’t want to be wrong,then that night I went to bed and I thought to myself about the Hadiths of suspicion and slander,I reflected back on suratul hujuraat,I remembered the time when Daud as judged without hearing both sides of the story and how the Quran talks about situation. Then I told myself that
1;) Yes it was wrong for a guy to approach a girl through her Dms and it is completely unislamic,BUT the girl was also responsible for reply to that DM because her reply wasn’t “I’m not talking to a man through DM’s” NOR did she block him instantly,Rather she went on with the conversation,and the way she was responding with mostly questions,it was evident and clear that she was looking for a way to defame that guy.
2;)The sister doesn’t talk about what she replied with,she doesn’t talk about the fact that the guy DID NOT PROPOSE TO HER ,BUT HE ASKED FOR HER OPINION!! She completely created her own scenario in her head and came to us with that.
3;)The brother apologized and regretted that he shouldn’t have asked for her opinion rather he should have gone to ask people of knowledge.But the sister has been silent ever since and did not apologize for the lies and misinformation she fed the whole online community.
4;) When they had witnesses and signed the contract,the sister made it look like the brother was the one who came with people to “MAKE her sign a contract” But she’s a grown up woman and people need to understand that single mothers are not babies,they willingly make decisions,she also willingly signed the contract.
4;) This whole situation was the guy asking for her opinion on a matter where a man wants to marry a single mother in the meantime he found another wife but would not divorce her.
Wallahi we need to fear Allah and admit when we are wrong,if the brother is reading this I’m sorry for slandering your name and hating on you for what was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT your fault.
MAY Allah forgive us and hide our shortcomings
Please rewatch her video. She already stated in her video that he was asking for advice/researching.
As for misyar, most scholars are against it for the sake of children. It is bad enough a free woman will have less rights than a slave. But it's worse with children in the mix plus the secrecy (i.e. keeping it away from family).
We should tell those muslim women not marry someon who is married or have been married before because the are not virgin and those keep saving themeself just to get married to someon who has more wife and not virgin. See how muslim man only marrys virgin even tho they not virgin and have wifes they only follow sunnah for sex and to have virgins and they can't even pleasure those women and use for slave. Which is hypocrite we must tell muslim to have standard and call those man also used because they do this with Windows and divorced women. We must show theme they are not the only who want virgin
Slavery, 😂 this religion bans alcohol and porks but slavery is ok? Imagine non Muslim men did the same to female prisoners of war from Muslim country. How is this religion stuck in 5 the century. Oh lordddddd.
I dont think these women are talking about mufti menk, yasir qadhi, nouman ali khan, or even ahmad deedat, Zahir naik 😅 the "dawah men" like you, mohammad hijab and so on cant compare yourself with them.
Yeah exactly. They are referring to these TH-cam men not actual scholars
@@Zxhra-1these guys are well educated about islam and Islamic matter who are these girl with no basics talk about them?
Mufti menk, nourman ali khan are self proclaimed
@@ShofahikMiah but they haven’t achieved the level of a scholar. I don’t trust these TH-camr men/women. I’d rather go to a reputable scholar, or website etc for information.
@user-ki7ll1kp8n Many of these influencer dawah guys are filled with emotion and opinion. And don't come close to any scholar who are composed, respectful and speak facts according to Book and Sunnah.
I have learned a lot from these Dawah man and I am Muslim. Alhumdulillah. May Allah SWT forgive our shortcomings and unite the Ummah. Ameen
A 27 year old not knowing whether its a good idea or not to marry a single mother in the mean time he looks for a traditional virgin wife but keeps the marriage a secret 🚩🚩🚩listening to it he might have been polite but it felt disgusting n im suprised all women didnt find this offensive.
This is completely intellectually dishonest
He said not intent to divorce so the “until” narrative to justify the level of disgust is what is actually disgusting
Me too! Why are women defending him?! They are more shocked that he was proposing to someone else rather than her. The contents of his proposal are unchanged 🤮
Also what did she mean with inexperienced 27 years old ? It only shows her red flags tbh 🚩
Quite frankly nobody cares what a feminist has to say about matters which are completely halal (minus maybe the secret marriage part).
You completely misunderstood him, firstly he explained his situation to the own who seek advice from similarly when you explained your pain to doctor to give you proper treatment.
Basically, he is Muslim 27 years old he seek after halal marriage and he get proposal from a single mother but as he know exactly how his family is, so he reach out to another single mother that published a video in that matter seeking her opinion of asking the one she proposed to him to make their marriage secret to avoid any issues with his family who wouldn't tolerate their son to marry from a single mother.
As his family searching for good virgin girl as his potential wife, they wouldn't accept let him marry from a single mother.
Feminism, Red Pill masculinism and clout chasing are a curse on the ummah. May Allah guide us all and make us sincere, ameen.
Redpill is much better than feminism, you cant compare both
@@fareezaizat8684 no it's not, it has shattered the minds of young men and has seperated men and women completely, which will have a bigger effect
Guys today are more judgemental than the women they blame so much
@@fareezaizat8684may Allah put in jahannam
@@fareezaizat8684hope your mother sees what she let her husband raise
@@cardboard_hat feminism does it not most redpill talking point, feminism much worst compare to redpill, feminism is a movement and ideology, redpill so far i have listen only a criticism and realization of the evil agenda behind feminism
Dhikr I'm gonna do everyday
1. SUBHANALLAH
2.ALHAMDULILLAH
3. ALLAHU AKBAR
4. ASTAGFIRULLAH
5. LA ILAHA ILLALLAH
6. SUBHANALLAHI WABI HAMDIHI
SUBHANALLAHIL ADHIM
7. LA ILAHA ILLALLAHU WAHDAHU LA SHAREEKA LAH LAHUL MULKU WALAHUL HAMD WAHUWA ALA KULLI SHAYIN QADEER
& Most importantly hold on to my 5 daily prayers.
Thought I was buggin for a minute when the video looped after the gorilla drink advert 😂😂
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When we say Dawah Guys we don’t mean the giant shuakh with PhDs. We mean 25-40 year old unqualified Dawah givers. Most of them don’t know they are talking about.
PhDs? 😂.
Rewatch the video because you missed the point. Don't say dawah guys at all. You are putting a negative connotation to the word dawah. Just say 'these people'. Also you don't need qualifications to give dawah.
Exactly...Ahmed Deedat is not who we are talking about here
@@Gearz4lyfe Also tell Ali Dawah and other brothers to not use term "hijabi" when criticizing Muslim women because they're putting a negative connotation to the word hijab. Just say "these sisters" or "this sister".
Anyone with a camera, a mic, and a beard can speak nowadays.
I can agree with everything he said apart from the fact that all men are polygamous in nature. Intimacy isn’t the only driver in life, there’s so many nuances to relationships. Living across 4 separate households, across 4 sets of kids spending a week a month in each house is not practical, doesn’t fulfil or protect anyone. What does fatherhood look like? Where’s the fabric of family in all of this? It’s mindless, ideal and really not for the man who wants to raise a strong, and bonded family. 😊
Ali dawah is obsessed. Every human is created as an individual . He only know what he feels himself, and only Allah knows what every other man feels!
Men are polygynous by nature, whether we like it or not, that is simply the truth. Any man, if given a choice, would want that. The only reason polygyny isn't a norm today is because of financial issues.
He said all men are polygamous by nature not that everyone should do it. And even Allah says it but also implies it’s not for everyone I.e if you cannot be just marry only one. It’s not for you bro cos from your message it’s obvious your not a leader neither are you able to handle 1 women in your life. There are guys out there who can attract multiple women, raise multiple families etc. So instead of condemning just say its not for you which it won’t be for a lot of guys.
@@jamdoughnut1873bs , human race was designed to be polygamous both men and woman but guess who upholds family more and not act on desires.
@@XxGamersxx1990 Sorry but there’s million biological, sociological evidences etc to show men are wired differently to women and vice versa. Men can have thousands of children(think ghenghis khan) woman can’t. Men want women for their bodies, women want men for what they can do for them in all aspect of life - think about a women’s dating requirements. Sex market/prostitition are mostly services for men, not for women. Men sex drive is consistent throughout life, womens fluctuates and dies sooner. Male experience is different from female and male have an intense drive for ongoing and variety based sex which the female does not experience to the same level, even if she can desire it. List goes on and on. Go figure.
Not tryna belittle anyone but its a fact that a lot of people have problems and heartaches within themselves, and instead of fixing and healing the problem, they blame others and it is easier to do that than to reach jnto your heart and fix the problem. This could potentially be the case here. Solving the root problem within the heart will create the best benefit and it will only help you in the long run. Its the best thing to do.
Lewisham Islamic Center’s 2 prominent Imams heard both Zaid and Sumayyah, went through their messages and voice notes and have ruled that it was Zaid who was wrong and that Umm Sumayyah has nothing to apologize for.
Are you going to detract your statements now Ali Dawah? It’s always interesting to see how authentic or not human beings are.
He didn’t say that he would divorce her - he said he’d keep her as a placeholder to fulfill his desires until he finds the girl he ACTUALLY wants to marry
“dawah guys” aren’t all the same. i understand where it comes from though when you have a lot of incidents of them using women for their personal gains and using religion to manipulate. May Allah SWT guide and protect us all.
Muslims using terms like "dawah guys/bros" and "hijabis" for each other as an insult is no different than black folks throwing the N word at each other. Tragic how pejorative terms and phrases used by bigots eventually get internalized and adopted by very victims of their bigotry.
It's show disrespect to Islam to use that term to refer to men who made mistakes. A
@@yemi3266 It also shows disrespect to Islam to use term "hijabi" to refer to women who made mistakes like you see in the title of this and other dawah channels. Be fair and apply same standards to everyone.
There is a huge difference between Dawah Guys and a داعى إلى الله.
@@yemi3266 well if they are hiding behind dawah then they are dawah boys/guys.
Why was he asking for advice some random hijabi online? He should have/could have asked this from the single mother that proposed to him in the first place.
It's a tough one tbh, as I went and watch both sides. I would lean more towards the sisters side here. The sister didn't claim he was talking about her she does mention in the start he reach out in regards advice and he was talking about some single mother. I think her talking on behalf of single women may have made the audience seem like she was refferring to herself, but it wasn't what I got from her video. This just shows how much we love gossiping and when things are left for interruptions we start making our own stories.
As far as it goes for the brother. I don't understand the logic in reaching out to her. Every women is different regardless of her advice it doesn't mean the other sister would've had the same view lol He also left things open for interruptions on plenty of matters. He made it seem like single mothers aren't traditional wife, he mentioned finding a single mother now till he finds his vir wife, but never clarified this till she asked and than he said he'd keep her. His expectation were largely the women giving up majority of her rights, were as he gets majority of the benefits lol like mentioning he can provide but single mothers are loaded is lol even the secret part estenially they wouldn't do much, but meet up at her place, because they live in London, so if he went out with her there his family, friends, etc would see him and the secret would be out.
All in all the brother has deeper matters and that's dealing with his family, what happens if his family never comes around, that puts the sister in a tough spot. The things he said if it was said to a father, they'd knock him out and I have a hard time seeing any wali apporve this arrangement in itself, so at the end this was for nothing from the brother side.
Oh yh it's cause she is a woman, sweet innocent woman can do nothing wrong. Women today do nothing wrong.😂😂😂😂😂
If his family don’t know then how is it a marriage? Sorry no excuses he got caught out he didn’t propose to her but he wants to be sneaky and have a secret marriage which needs a wali so he is not a person who should be giving dawah because he’s corrupt and a not good example he doesn’t want to marry her but he wants to commit a sin regardless. The point is why are u wanting to hide it??? That means his family and the virgin wife will be told Allie. she should expose
He did the video of this misconception- th-cam.com/video/6b1YWd4ytng/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CaZvolj3uqLKqMeA
@@yourinternetsecretbestie there is no misconception if the family and the other wife don’t know he has another wife it’s deceit and it’s lying. Khadija was no hidden wife
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Any comment about the official statement released by Lewisham mosque?
A lot of people are going to have to back pedal on their words
The fact that this went public is by the will of Allah. Alhamdulilah. Maybe the prospective sister is a close friend of Allah and Allah wanted to protect her from marrying a man who will not protect her rights and treat her in the best way. By Allah, this whole situation has so much goodness in it. Zaid constantly speaks about wanting more than one wives and ok sure, sunnah. But why don't they look at Rasulalah salallahu alyahi wasalaam and his 25 long years of monogamous marriage? In the Arab times, polygamy was prevalent even though his marriage to Khadijah as well yet he remained monogamous. These Muslims who are trying to say having more than one wife is sunnah, make sure you're following the Quran and can treat and take care of each one in the same way otherwise just have one. And fast and have sabr until Allah grants you a mate.
The issues still remain the same!! Stop the bs. Sisters can let go of their rights so that you can get your rocks off? 😂😂. Haram! Those rights are to protect women from men like this so please, for the love of Allah, do not make this a thing that is normal.
Agree 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
No one is forcing you to let go of your rights. It's a unique marriage where you agree upfront rights and responsibilities. It's called being transparent. Respect the honesty. Also whatever the situation, it's better than zina.
@@alphauno6614 Not interested. Men like you can take your disgusting offers elsewhere. I wonder if you’d thank a man for his honesty if he came with an offer for your sister like that 😂
@@alphauno6614 sorry to tell you but I have heard a lot of married men still do Zina. I don’t run in those circles so I don’t know but yea.
Also, just because it’s transparent doesn’t mean it’s good for you. A secret marriage that family do not know about, he is doing it to just sleep with you while he waits for his “real” wife. It’s sick.
It’s honestly his fault. He shouldn’t be going to a non Mahram messaging them and asking for this advice for his private needs. He didn’t even give context around receiving a proposal. He could go to a sheik and ask them or get advice from a Mandan female from his family cousins etc. Now everyone is blaming the girl for posting that video. Personally it’s the right thing to do, so other sisters don’t give up their rights for a man’s need. Women aren’t objects for men to satisfy their desire
I'm not sure how any of this really relates to you though. You seemingly have not done anything wrong so I don't know why you are taking it so personally, unless it is a personal matter. +Maybe the storyline got mixed up but at the end of the day, his words haven't really made a difference. It doesn't matter who he is, no one cares if he's some well known guy, many average men are like this too. Furthermore, 7:00 - This brother did in fact get angry at her when she said what he was saying was completely disrespectful and wrong. He did get offended because she didn't want a temporary marriage? So then she posted it online but covered his name and did not mention it at all, so I don't know how people found out it was Zaid.. The whole reason she wanted to speak up about this is to allow women to be aware of the dangers and to not trust people, despite their social status or what they are known for. Yes, they might be seen as pious but that does not mean everything they do is correct. People, regardless of gender, I have found are always going to have some sense of vulnerability. I must argue this would have allowed people to be more on guard and not to fall into temptations. The only reason I know about this whole single mother and Zaid situation is because my father sent it to me and he wanted me to be aware. I am sure you all should understand all of this too. "IN THE MEANTIME" is incredibly disrespectful. He thinks her expectations are low and she doesn't need to be provided for etc etc is nothing islamic. I get it she messaged him first but he still said what he said. I do enjoy your videos but in this aspect your points are not really adding up. Perhaps you just want to support a brother of yours, and so be it but we cannot discredit what we are learning from this. I don't think secrecy in marriage is right at all. He cannot plan a second wife if he doesn't even have a first wife. If you put yourself into the mind and body of a woman you would be agreeing. I always think the whole polygamous thing is only allowed for someone as great as our prophet because no average man could ever love all equally and care for all equally. Another thing why I believe people don't completely appreciate these dawah men is because they don't even have a proper education or a degree or what not and haven't fully studied the religion so instead speak about topics when all it seems like is they are doing it for fame because it has come to a point people listen to them more than sheikhs or scholars and imams. I could say more to elaborate but I shall stop here. Thank you for speaking some truth though.
Exactly!!
Your comment needs to be pinned for all to see!!
I won’t lie since the whole Andrew Tate Craze I get mad gay vibes from Ali, this man would denounce the entirety of Islam, dignity, self-respect and everything good in this world, maybe even his daughters chastity if it meant defending an attractive guy online.
23:09 Prophet Muhammad SAWS PBUH never married in secret. His marriages were known in the society of Madinah.
I don’t think the sisters are talking about people like you or the ones you mentioned when they talk about those dawah guys. I have a certain type of guys in mind too when I hear the term dawah guys. It’s just a term that is used for those guys who use religion to manipulate women and unfortunately they are growing in the communities
Ali you yourself said you have 3 daughter so please answer honestly and truthfully so the public can witness and for Allah to judge. If any one of YOUR daughters was in that situation and a man was thinking about making her his "second" wife or a second option for him to relieve himself of sin while in the process that he finds a virgin wife for himself. Please tell me would you be okay with this? would you agree to this marriage on behalf of your daughter as he wali?
Is it halal? If the answer is yes who are to come in between Allah's order?
Not to mention he was simply asking for advice, fear Allah people.
His mistake was talking to a non-mahram women, may Allah forgive him and guide him.
dumbest question i have seen in a while. hopefully he reacts on your nonsense so you can be silent in your room.
If all her rights are fulfilled, it is permissible in Islam, but frowned upon.
The problem is with Zaid's family who have put his career before his human needs. He really should have gone to scholars instead of approaching a strange sister. If anything, THAT is what he is sinful of.
Othman, may God be pleased with him, married the two daughters of the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace. You can ask the Prophet how he felt after one of his daughters became a second wife.
This is a stupid question
oh my dad would neverrrrr lol he would k1ll the guy
Akhi Ali may Allah bless you, BarakAllahu feek. However I am disappointed in some sisters and brothers exposing one another online. There is a war being waged on Islam and Muslims and, here we are pointing fingers at one another. Yes his words and perspective on single mothers is upsetting however, you should have addressed this privately and tell a SHEIKH that, you know would advise him and make him see his mistake. The Prophet SAW advised us on covering the faults of one another and advising and strengthening each other privately. Brothers please love and respect single mothers and divorcees. LET US BEWARE OF SOCIAL MEDIA for it is DESTROYING THE UMMAH. Assalamu alaikum warahmatullah..
How are we supposed to protect our sisters from falling into these traps without exposing?
Why is it that you blur the sister’s face during the video however you leave it on full display in the thumbnail?
You’ve chosen to only blur that particular sister’s face during the video (which is understandable since she has a full face of makeup on and it can be a fitnah for many). However you’ve decided to choose THAT very sister’s face un-blurred for the thumbnail….
I feel we should have some continuity. Nonetheless, may Allah bless your work.
As a Muslim man, I have also criticized (Dawah ppl) many times, because i saw that most of them they lack wisdom and most amportent is: in many topics they say and behave in very, very questionbale manner, even things which is clearly against the teaching of Islam!!.
but when i said (Dawah ppl) i didn't meant all of them or generalizing.
May Allah bless and protect you brother Ali and your daughters and family.
Misyar also doesn't make sense. You can have a traditional marriage that is announced and split the bills. Read articles on how misyar plays out in Saudi as sex tourism. It was previously called a travelers marriage.
I read that too, this one scholar basically said it's not a good idea do it in this day and age
I watched the video so you don’t have to: he’s covering up for the perpetuator.
This is the problem. Brothers and sisters are at eachother's throats when we should be working together helping the ummah. May Allah guide us and continue to give us knowledge.
Lewisham Mosque has released a statement, clarifying everything. She has nothing to apologise for as was originally agreed in the contract. Since you made this video on this issue Ali Dawah it is your duty now to correctly inform the public and defend the sister against this slander.
There is a difference between the educated daees and ex-roadmen/young men who watch youtube videos and start preaching like sheikhs. We all know what 'these dawah guys' refers to. It isnt everyone doing dawah obviously.
No decent woman alive would not find Zaid’s statements derogatory and disrespectful! Admit that he was clearly and unequivocally proposing Mutah and he is degrading single motherhood ! Ali you are asking for him to apologise! For what! On the one hand he is wrong and on the other he is falsely accused! If it quacks like a duck and it looks like a duck it is a duck! Disgrace to anyone who tries to duck tape what’s blatantly obvious! Power to this lady for exposing him!
And the sister did not say his name on the video nor in the caption. Someone leaked it
The sister did kind of put the brother in a bad light, though. And she was warning other sister about him when he was asking her a question. Also, the brothers' reputation was damaged, and people are slandering, gossiping, etc
Lol come now Ali, don't compare Ahmed Deedat to dawath boys on TH-cam. Yes some dawath guys on TH-cam are indeed sincere and helpful to the ummah, but others are just the opposite. Can't take naseeha without verifying the background. Mohammad Hijab for example does have a respectable background and is knowledgeable etc. so yeah, always do your own research.
@@Chilani2001But it was necessary to warm single mums. So what's wrong with warning based on a truthful incident. If she didn't mention his name, she is not to blame ppl getting to know who it was.
@@moonandstar1991 I think you meant to say all are helpful except for a few. Don't engage in slander.
@@مسلمةالحمدلله-س6ز What was the warning?
﴿ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَن تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَىٰ مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ﴾
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O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
Ali Dawah, Why do you show her face in the thumbnail but censor in the video? Are you trying to get people to click and get more views?
Good on you Ali, thanks for the video & clarification. May Allah (SWT) accept it from you, preserve you, keep you sincere and grant you baraqa & increase you in knowledge.
In all due respect I'm a single mother and I don't have that vulnerability because I know who my Rabb is and it's never a man and never a celebrity.
Man is just human and even good men mess up. But I know who my Rabb is so that creates a balanced attitude towards brothers. I can put him in his place and still hold space for him at the same time.
No one is messing me around unless I let him, therefore it's not happening (bi ithni Allah)
May we all be Increased in Iman, Focus on Allah SWT and the ability to hold our ground with both grace and firmness - Ameen
You personally may be a strong lady but single mothers in general are vulnerable individuals that need to be protected. Their families need to be close to them to guard them from human hyenas.
Alhumdullilah you're well grounded in your iman, but many other single mothers, even single women, are going through a tough time and are vulnerable so warning them about such wolves in sheep's clothing is a good idea.
Put him in his place huh? How's that working out for you?
@Tea962 alhamdulillah
Very well.
I only have good quality suitors, and when I'm ready to get married, it will be the best man, not the 'next man'
It is possible to put someone in his or her place in a manner that is respectful and kind
If he's a good enough person, then the conversation concludes positively with mutual dua
But if he's still acting silly, then he gets blocked
@@olegnurmagomedov750 I agree with families being involved
That should be a staple and a constant for a variety of reasons
May Allah protect Zaid and all the brothers involved in da'wah. How evil you must be to slander someone like this.. The desease of feminism..
🤝
Protect him? It was the sister that needed protecting
@@shabnammalik3099Why though ? Posting something out of context to defame someone is good ? Slandering is one of the worst sins in islam
At the same time why do brothers think single mothers can be treated like sidechicks? The disease of redpill
agreed, go get some random guy and let him talk to ur sister abt his bedroom needs yallah
Monogamy is sunnah too. Secret wife is haram lying is haram lying by omission is haram. It’s also unequal bc second wife would know and first one wouldn’t
🙄 Brother! Your tone-deafness! I say this with respect.
Alhamdulillah i didnt jump to conclusions earlier on
Overall, my opinion is that the man is certainly wrong and should be corrected, but not exposed. To me he seemed like someone lost and needed advice but didnt get it.
"Allah does not like negative thoughts to be voiced-except by those who have been wronged"
- 4:148
As far as i know this woman wasnt wronged, rather a man shared his conflicting views and asked for advice. As for Ali Dawah, it is seen that he has talked about single mothers before.
Overall, I believe the mans views are wrong and he should regret it but as he did not act on it and also sought advice on it before anything, he is not sinful, The woman exposing the man is haram and she should apologize to the man and repent. Ali Dawah is just someone commentating to the best of his knowledge and should not be blamed.
My opinion not yours, you dont need to accept it, you are open to criticize it and i know some are going to ask but yes, I am a man!
I’m here friend and I aided in her replying to him, she didn’t agree to him being an amaanah he just said that himself. Ali if you want to see everything message me back. I’m a witness
What happened exactly tell me plz
he didnt propose to her, he DIDNT say temporary marraige. misyar is halal. SO WHAT EXACTLY NEEDED TO BE EXPOSED?
Sister THOSE WHO LIKE TO SPREAD FITNAH AMONG MULSIMS SHALL BE PUNISHED SEVERLY FEAR ALLAH, IS IT HALAL TO SHARE HIS MESSAGES EVEN? shame on you the prophet says to cover for a Muslim even if he did a mistake not expose him like that and adding more to it tell you friend to fear allah
@@hudaguidance507 also I garuntee this is her ONLY experience with a dawah boy and knows or heard of one other situation and she goes and labels 1000s of dawah guys 😂😂
@@dubai_fitness What did she say about 1000s of dawah guys? I thought she talked about only one and even him she did not name, somebody else did. He just apologized to her in his vid for calling her a liar earlier and says that was not the case.
Who started publicizing this? Why does the whole world have to know about your disgrace? Astaghfirullah Al Azeem
What you just said is so stupid bro.
Then why does the whole world have to know about the disgrace of Palestinians? Or Syrians? Or ucranians? Or immigrants? Those are labels to pinpoint a group of INDIVIDUAL HUMAN BEINGS.
If it affects a human being on an individual level, it should matter to the whole world. God Read the Quran and stop listening to the dawah bros. They are better called deceiver bros.
Because women hate men and they want to victimise themselves for clout on the expense of men
Listening to that brothers voice notes he sounds like he would just use her temporarily. I do not advise that woman to marry him. I would advise Zaid not to marry her as well
he said with no intentions of divorce... he didnt say temperary . i cant blieve after findint the truth you have no concerns about her falsly slandering him all over the internet
@@dubai_fitnessIt's permissible for a woman to offer her hand, but did you not hear the way he spoke about her? "I'm finding it hard to control myself, how do you feel about me keeping you a secret, having you until someone younger and a virgin comes along". If you care about the sister you'd realise the brother talking about her like she's expendable. If that was my daughter id tell her steer clear and if that was my son i'd sy the same.
@@Urbanlensman HE WASNT TALKING ABOUT THE GIRL HE MSGD. He was talking about a girl that messaged HIM.
AND HE DIDNT SAY HAVING HER UNTIL HER GETS A NEW ONE.. he said with no divorce in mind.
Watch the whole video without being triggered.. look at the girl that messaged HIM asking HIM
@@Urbanlensman and once again you have no concern for her tarnishing his name on falsehood. He didn’t say temporary and misyar is halal.
@@dubai_fitness I'm sure he knows that having two wives is illegal in the West where he lives. How was he going to remain married to the single mom wife after marrying the single girl wife?
Women never recognize their wrong and accountability is their kryptonite. maybe this guy went about it the wrong way but the slander and break of Amana is 10000 worse. Thanks for showing once again your true nature to the world.
You are wrong! It wasn't Amana. He did ask her to be amana, but she didn't agree! She told him she was going to warn other single mothers. Go read what she wrote in the comment section on the same day she released the video! You are slandering her name, which is a sin as well!
18:04 No, a misyar marriage is NOT secret and not temporary.
LOL, do you have comprehension problems? he said at the discretion of the sister IN REGARDS TO FORGOING HER RIGHTS, not discretion in terms of it being a secret. the guy was sayin he doesnt need to ask HIS FAMILY as hes a man. he didnt say for her to keep hers a secret from her sister. the funniest thing is tht he didnt even propose to her, he didnt say temperary marriage, and she falsely slandered him all over the interenet and all you can do is misunderstand something at 18:04. u have nothing to say about her?
@dubai_fitness it seems like you have comprehension problems along with other issues. I am talking about the ruling of misyar and what it isn't. Further information on this can be found on islam qa. No I am not going to bad mouth anyone.
@@muslimah6033 nobody said it’s secret and temporary 🤦🏻♂️
He should grow a pair quite frankly and tell his parents who he wants to marry instead of talking to women randomly over social media and considering a marriage that has no honour nor rights! Also, dawah speakers and shaykhs are the worst kind of men who mine and my friends have ever dealt with. It isn't just one case, two cases, its whole communities that have had experiences from toxic 'islamic' men from the West. Mainly reverts and single mothers or women who have spiritual issues.
Let’s be real though, regardless of if he did anything right or wrong. No man will be cool with his sister or daughter getting with such person.
Umm sumayyah was wronged by him but I believe whoever marries him would also be wronged too. I dont think no father would want to give his "virgin daughters" hand to such a man who thought of doing this or will do this in future so he needs to be made aware of this. Every woman stays chaste and dreams of marrying an unmarried guy like herself. Imagine the heart break when his new "virgin wife" finds out he couldn't wait a couple of months to get introduced and marry her but started offering himself to single mothers. It's actually good that this came out in public. 2 lives have been saved. Unless he changes his views he should get married.
Obviously someone who's sinned and repented in the past is not who I'm talking about. I would marry such a person because they're repentance to Allah holds value. But such a guy who wants to use and abuse women by hiding marriages, it shows what kinda guy he is.
I am so lost those voice notes were so horrible 😅! Ewww Brother what’s that 🤢
Heard the voice notes people who give dawah have more responsibility than the average person , it sounds like he was putting the feelers out there and see what happens it was wrong , I understand why she is offended but hearing that it doenst sound good at all hope he learns from this mistake single mothers shouldn’t be looked at as a second option this is the problem in our Muslim population .
Br Ali she didn’t even mention him once. Someone else leaked his name
Irrelevant
She exaggerated it to the point of a lie and it became a slander
@@BYABTheApex but was was he asking her if he didn’t intend it to be for her. Makes no logical sense. Go and ask the girl who proposed to you not some random other woman. He’s upset cause he got exposed and expected her to let him talk about his sexual urges with her like she’s cheap.
If someone does a bad thing you should only hold the individual accountable. The way those sisters said "Dawah guys" made it sound like they were criminals or something. People are already nervous to make dawah and because of this type of behavior they will shy away even more. Our prophet always told us not to blame an entire community for the sins of one person
Stop using terms like "dawah bros" and "hijabis" in your vid titles as pejoratives like Islamophobes do. If you disagree with another Muslim/Muslimah on something, simply using terms brother or sister would suffice and make your message more effective. Reject non Muslim concepts of feminism and red pill and come to Islam that is complete, balanced, just and honorable.
“Allaah does not like that the evil should be uttered in public except by him who has been wronged”
[al-Nisa’ 4:148]
The Prophet [Peace and Blessings of Allah upon him] said:
“It is enough sin for a person to speak of everything that he hears.”
advice in private, not in public.
You're not da'wah boys. You're innovators.
Allah is making you taste the same kind of slander you spread about the true ahlusSunnah (salafis).
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT WAS A PROPOSAL OR NOT!!! He approached a woman asking her all these weird and strange questions or “advice” as he’s referring to it.
He literally said he’s struggling to find a traditional wife - one who his family would approve of and one who they can share all the typical in law stuff and until then in the mean time he’s thinking of marrying a single mother because her expectations won’t be as high for a husband, she wouldn’t be that interested to know her in laws?!! What?! Why so? Well as he said cause she’s done it before.
First brother it doesn’t matter if she’s had an experience with her ex in laws, this is a new marriage, she’s entering a new family.. is she not part of this family because she’s been married before? I don’t understand the connection..
She’d just want to be with someone to spend some quality time and save themselves from Zina mainly?! What?! Why so? Is she not getting married and starting a new life with someone? Why is it different if she’s been married before or not?
This whole single mother for now until I find my virgin mentality is so disturbing and the idea of getting married to mainly preserve himself from Zina and keeping his wife a secret and I don’t know what is disrespectful for the woman he’s marrying…
Maybe in some cases some single mothers who are struggling alone would accept that but approaching a sister and asking her all these sensitive questions is just not acceptable
Excellent Sister Expose This Guy. But sister All Dawah Guys are Not same.
May Allah Guide our brothers Sisters
Did he just say "single mothers are seen as trash in the Asian community". Audu billah thats not true wallah and a very unjust statement... Subhan Allah! 😔😔😔
That sister completely ruined a young man's life for no good reason.
well he shouldve thought twice before doing what he did. actions have consequences, dont you say this to women all the time?
Good in a sense, this is a deterrent for men doing the same thing in the future
He should have never approach that way
@@YARD8 - from what I seen & heard, dude did nothing wrong.
Yall are in left field
By giving guys like these a free pass, you're creating a very dangerous and ugly world for your own daughters and grand daughters. God forbid, some of them will find themselves divorced or widowed with guys like these preying on them because guys like you made them think that they're doing nothing wrong.
I Don't understand How a Marriage can be Secret - if they have Kids How can she exolain the pregnancy and all that ....
Why did you blur her on the video but not on the thumbnail?
I just unsubscribed to you. I’m no longer going to be watching your content because of your support for injustice against a single Muslim mother. The Lewisham Mosque has made clear our sister was fair in judgement and there was no incorrect information shared in her video about Zaid. Zaid warped the situation making it seem like she owed him an apology. For these manipulators may Allah SWT serve them justice. I am appalled and I pray Allah SWT protects us all from the unjust, ameen.
it's haram to be a misandrist
@@bethere7862 I’m not a misandrist. There is no logical basis to be a misandrist.
so you're saying that misandry is not a thing?
@@bethere7862 No. I’m saying I don’t see the logic behind being a misandrist thus I cannot be a misandrist.