The WORST Missed Calls In NHL History

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  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    What is the WORST missed/bad call you've ever seen?

    • @ST0Rmmm_gmr
      @ST0Rmmm_gmr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The call where that S****D ref DIDINT call a penalty on Wayne against the leafs

    • @toddpick8007
      @toddpick8007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      No call Gretzky high stick on Gilmour game 6 Conference Finals LA Kings vs Leaf's 1993 worst fucking no call ever.

    • @alexthebasilisk
      @alexthebasilisk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The ignored cross check by Mayfield on Kucherov last year. Dude literally broke a star player's ribs and didn't even get 2 minutes

    • @jayden2669
      @jayden2669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nashville 2017 colton Sissons goal waived off

    • @RandomPlaceHolderName
      @RandomPlaceHolderName 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Out of the entire VGK-MTL ref'ing debacle, the high stick that bloodied Perry in OT was egregious. March took a baseball swing at the puck and sent Perry down to the ice in plain view of the refs.

  • @littletommy69
    @littletommy69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Keep in mind, that back in the days, in 1993 as well, high-sticking with blood was automatic 5-minute major and game misconduct.. That's why it was a big deal with Gretzky's no-call.

    • @AbortedFeti
      @AbortedFeti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yeah...I'm generally not one for conspiracy theories, but I don't think it's absurd to believe that Gretzky was not called for that obvious high stick cuz it would mean him being ejected and LA losing that game which would have lead to a Toronto and Montreal series as the final. A delight for existing hockey fans to be sure, but the league very much wanted LA with Gretzky to win that 93 cup to solidify the sunbelt as a hockey market and continue growing the game stateside. I'm sure they were livid when Montreal ended up taking it in the end lol.

    • @henrymorrey4150
      @henrymorrey4150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AbortedFeti that’s why Gretzky number will never be topped, it was a different game where the enforcers would never touch the all stars like him, it’s a different game now

    • @neojay80
      @neojay80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AbortedFeti I can see the anti-MTL sentiment in the league today, as a lot of people here believe the league has it out for the Habs because of that. A MTL-TOR cup finals would have been epic, I'll have to live with the 2020-2021 1st round upset.

    • @coreyhill681
      @coreyhill681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That Haunted Maple Leafs for a long time now, and I don't blame them

    • @moappleseider1699
      @moappleseider1699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL The day I stopped rooting for the Leafs and became a fulltime Red Wings fan. I was 9 years old with a mother from Detroit and a father from Toronto. So I had family on one side sending me Leafs and Blue Jays gear, and the other side was sending me Wings and Tigers gear. I always rooted for both when they weren't playing each other but chose the Leafs when the two faced off. After that no-call and the eventual loss in game 7 I looked at my dad and said "I'm done. I'm a Wings fan" my dad looked at me with a smile and said "You'll probably live a happier life that way buddy". Little did I know just a few years later the Wings would turn into the powerhouse they were for over 2 decades. Now hoping Yzerman will lead Detroit back to greatness but I still root for the Leafs when they aren't playing Detroit. I just don't put as much heart in it. Got to get a new Felix "The Cat" Potvin sweater though. Those things are sick. Poor Leafs.

  • @sniperlauncher388
    @sniperlauncher388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Remember when Crosby took off Marc methots finger and didn’t get a penalty

    • @VanBakelll
      @VanBakelll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That’s because he’s Crosby

    • @willp.6093
      @willp.6093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It caused a rule change at least

    • @rileykazama3145
      @rileykazama3145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did he do that

    • @barx
      @barx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rileykazama3145 Slashed him right on the glove, hence why slashes to the hands are automatically called

    • @rileykazama3145
      @rileykazama3145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barx yikes

  • @jerejokinen3199
    @jerejokinen3199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Game 5 in the 2019 finals, missed call on Noel Acciari getting slew footed which led to the game winning goal for the Blues giving them a 3-2 lead in the series.

    • @jdt2313
      @jdt2313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mention the uncalled interference on Zuccarello that kept the Blues from being eliminated by Dallas

    • @OhZech
      @OhZech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Blues 2019 Stanley Cup was the biggest fluke in recent hockey history

    • @kylebond1086
      @kylebond1086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn’t going to write this comment, glad to see others think that was bullshit and one of the biggest missed calls ever.

    • @kevindunn2663
      @kevindunn2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OhZech lol cry about it. That team had depth scoring, experience, a great coach, a good blue line, leadership and a hot goalie. But keep telling yourself it was a fluke.

    • @kevindunn2663
      @kevindunn2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Game 1 of the 2019 finals, Krug charges Robert Thomas taking him out for the rest of
      The series.

  • @jerryhammer2927
    @jerryhammer2927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Preds disallowed goal game 6, cup final 2017 hands down. That early whistle sent us from contenders to a first round sweep. That was our chance. I still think Pens would've won a possible game 7 in Pittsburgh, but we'll never know what could've been.

    • @TheAlphapuck5280
      @TheAlphapuck5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thats nothing compared to the missed goal call on Calgary back in 2004

    • @Bambrough
      @Bambrough 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAlphapuck5280 it was what he’s seen not what do u thinks the worst all time

    • @chiefdave51
      @chiefdave51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hope Nashville never experiences the joy of winning a cup.

    • @deusvult6920
      @deusvult6920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheAlphapuck5280 that wasn't a missed call sorry

    • @TheAlphapuck5280
      @TheAlphapuck5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deusvult6920 Really?
      th-cam.com/video/iORumLN7K0Q/w-d-xo.html

  • @dustin5181
    @dustin5181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Looks like from the angle;
    Dahlin pushed with closed fists for all 3 shoves. Hands that were close together, Not using his stick to make it a cross check. With all 3 shoves.
    Mathews cross checked for both. The first initial retaliation before getting knocked down, and then again to the face after. Not using his hands to make contact and make them both cross checks with his stick.
    Same thing with the Ovi example. While yes, a soft call (maybe embellishment), still crosschecking. Hands wide apart not using to push the player, but using the stick as the point of contact.

    • @miketaylorID1
      @miketaylorID1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lacrosse rules

    • @AbortedFeti
      @AbortedFeti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      This is the correct take. What Dahlin was doing was clearing Matthews from the net by pushing using his stick, but that's not cross checking. Happens literally 100s of times a game. Matthews on the other hand was a two handed full bore cross check to the head. That has to be a suspension every single time. No place in the game for that.

    • @petem7942
      @petem7942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm glad someone sees this correctly. Thank you for the sane post. :)

    • @rdd29
      @rdd29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Exactly, Dahlin was pushing Matthews, not cross-checking. Matthews, basically, went for the intent to injure Dahlin, didn't look like he held back with those cross-checks, especially the one which got Dahlin on the side of the neck. Potentially, a life/career ending injury right there, Dahlin took it like a champ.

    • @buttkick22
      @buttkick22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly!

  • @derekpushkar4013
    @derekpushkar4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I instantly thought of flames/lightning 04 disallowed goal, GFG 🔥

    • @silentnyrf3161
      @silentnyrf3161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @Tre16
      @Tre16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Game 6, they would have won the cup!

  • @FTCoconutman
    @FTCoconutman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    2009? cup finals wings v pens. Pittsburgh had 7 guys on the ice for about 1:30 with the bench screaming at the refs and they refused to look around and blow the whistle, then a d man finally got off the ice and they tied the game a few seconds later and won in ot

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its Pittsburgh, what doesnt go their way? The NHL rigged a draft for them, obviously theyre allowed to have 7 men on the ice.

  • @JB_II
    @JB_II 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still to me the worst call was in a Penguins vs Rangers game when Sidney Crosby was called for a penalty, was in the box, the ref announced the penalty the puck was dropped and a few seconds later the ref blew the whistle and escorted Crosby out of the box saying there was no penalty on the play. Huh? I’m a former ref and I still don’t understand that decision.

  • @rheff7618
    @rheff7618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2019 playoffs. Blues vs Sharks, the infamous hand pass game as everyone in St. Louis calls it. Game 3 in the series, Timo Meier. Gotta look it up.

  • @estellegrignon
    @estellegrignon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If you ever make a part 2, you need to talk about last year's game between the Jackets and Hurricanes.
    Carolina scores, but the Jackets challenge because of an offside. The refs somehow miss the offside and give Columbus a two minute penalty for delay of game as the period comes to an end.
    BUT! The refs actually realize during the intermission that yes, there was an offside, so coming back for the next period, they cancel what was left of Carolina's power play. But Carolina keeps the goal that should have been disallowed. I've honestly never seen anything like it before or since in my life

    • @lokei1326
      @lokei1326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That was such a dang-it.

    • @HockeyPwnsBaseball
      @HockeyPwnsBaseball 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That was one of the most bush-league things I've ever seen. And my team BENEFITED from it lol. I can't imagine how CBJ fans felt

    • @theWanderersnotebook
      @theWanderersnotebook 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lokei1326A fellow person of culture I see!

  • @MathieuFerronMusic
    @MathieuFerronMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact about the first goal : stephane auger is one of the refs on this one and he's a consultant for one of the broadcast networks in quebec. Imagine consulting this guy about referee calls lol.

  • @cptn-billtremblay3162
    @cptn-billtremblay3162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I was just a kid but that Montreal-Carolina series still makes me angry just to think about it! Carolina was so dirty! 😡

    • @axe2grind244
      @axe2grind244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Carolina had zero business beating Buffalo and it took them 7 games to beat a bad Oilers team that also had zero business being there. That Canes team is and always will be a joke.

    • @bartholomewesperanza3442
      @bartholomewesperanza3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@axe2grind244 hahahah what?? That team was stacked up front. Rode a hot rookie goaltender who ended up being one of the better goalies of his era. That “joke” of a team will forever be engraved on the Stanley cup, and you can suck on it

    • @bartholomewesperanza3442
      @bartholomewesperanza3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carolina was the better team by far. Montreal got lucky Carolinas starting goalie Martin Gerber had the flu the first 2 games and played awful. That was the only reason they were up 2-0. Carolina was “so dirty”? The player who high sticked koivu was Justin Williams. Not a guy known for being a goon or giving out cheap shots. It was obviously an accident. Get over it frenchie boy

    • @bruceulrich1231
      @bruceulrich1231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@axe2grind244 they wouldn't have won if it weren't for the sabres being forced to play their 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th defensemen. Playing in the conference finals with ahl'ers tells you just how good and deep that team was

    • @SabresGuy87
      @SabresGuy87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carolina has Buffalo's Cup #Facts

  • @TylerQ4
    @TylerQ4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    To be fair with the cross checking call, it’s cross checking when your hands are apart from each hand while holding on to the stick.. and some people don’t realize that, but if you put your hands together with the stick and shove, it’s actually not a penalty.. (I’m a hockey player and reffed a little bit)

  • @woodstocknun
    @woodstocknun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    the dahlin matthews incident was a scrum from both players, and then matthews crosschecked dahlin in the neck. i dont see the controversy.

    • @austinneveau9387
      @austinneveau9387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except dahlin shouldve went to the penalty box before Matthew's had the chance to retaliate

    • @woodstocknun
      @woodstocknun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@austinneveau9387 do that and we would have a discussion how soft NHL was.. that scrum went on that entire shift.

    • @DutchJunior310
      @DutchJunior310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@austinneveau9387 for what? A net front battle? Bc ghat never happens in a hockey game

    • @buttkick22
      @buttkick22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He’s trying to equate pushing a guy with your gloves and using your stick to push and clear the front of the net with full blown cross checking. There is a big difference. His example there is completely nonsensical

    • @drossi101
      @drossi101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@austinneveau9387 For what? Lmao he wasn’t cross checking, he was pushing him. It’s hockey. This happens to anyone trying to get screen the goalie.

  • @zskimanjr
    @zskimanjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Sorry to say Dahlins "crosscheck" was him pushing with his gloves not his stick. Interference maybe but not a crosscheck

    • @tomhull1276
      @tomhull1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly. And, I don't think an interference penalty would be called when a defending player is trying to remove an opponent from the goal crease. Dahlin is making a legal "hockey play" and Matthews is just trying to stand his ground.

    • @kensmith2829
      @kensmith2829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, not a crosscheck

    • @zachost
      @zachost 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthews is so scummy, he retaliated with a cross check to the head trying to hurt Dahlin because he was getting manhandled.

    • @IcyMantaray
      @IcyMantaray 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomhull1276 clearing the net? by crosschecking him into the crossbar from the numbers? the first one was hands the second one he separated them to hide a crosscheck, if the play wasn't called dead on the attempt to hit matthews into the crossbar then it should've been let to continue

    • @Lt_Coldstream72
      @Lt_Coldstream72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IcyMantaray You clearly don't want to see the difference between a crosscheck or a push with both hands close to each other... I guess you are a Matthews-fanboi with those eyes. 🤓

  • @jasongoodrick9463
    @jasongoodrick9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Jared Spurgeon trying to break Pavel Buchnevich ankles should have been a suspension.

  • @Mcdavidsburner
    @Mcdavidsburner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The reffing has been the worse that I can remember this year. It’s so bad that I don’t even get mad anymore I just laugh 😂

  • @asidethestart
    @asidethestart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The clip you used of Dahlin "crosschecking" Matthews, doesn't look like one. Sure looks like he only has one hand on the stick when he actually contacts him. The first hit to Matthews could have been a crosscheck, but I haven't seen a good angle. The second one doesn't look like it to me. Matthews did clearly crosscheck Dahlin twice though.

    • @austinneveau9387
      @austinneveau9387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cross checking or not I dont want to see a dude not playing hockey and instead is focused on knocking someone over. And then Matthew's gets suspended because he retaliated to that bs? It couldve been avoided if the refs did their job.

    • @austinneveau9387
      @austinneveau9387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matthews didnt even have the puck lmao

    • @asidethestart
      @asidethestart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@austinneveau9387 Dahlin dod play hom aggressively after the hit Matthews gave him against the boards, but otherwise its clearing the front of the net. Happens constantly in every game. As soon as Mathews got up he gave Dahlin a hard cross check in the arm, befie the clip this video showed. It was pretty much normal hockey until the crosscheck to the neck.

    • @korynorman7837
      @korynorman7837 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asidethestart clearing the net you would push from behind he pushed him into the net

    • @asidethestart
      @asidethestart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korynorman7837 well you definitely don't want to leave someone untouched in front of the net. Again I think Dahlin was more aggressive because the hit from earlier (although that hit seemed legal to me), but pushing a player in the crease is not a penalty to my knowledge. The cross check Matthews gave right after certainley was, but the refs let it go. I just dont understand these takes that Matthews was somehow the victim in all this. Leafs got lucky that he wasnt ejected.

  • @antonblascak581
    @antonblascak581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hi Ron :) thanks for the video... maybe an idea for a new one?
    Tampa commentator said a couple of nights ago that McDonagh has never missed playoffs in his carreer (yet), I thought it could be interesting to take a look at longest playoff streaks in modern era? Are there many who have never missed playoffs in their entire carreers? Thanks :) have a good one.

  • @Toche44
    @Toche44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The take on the Dahlin cross check is poor. Dahlin got a cross check to his head, Matthews was cross checked on his body, the two are not the same. One can cause serious injury (the matthews cross check) and the other is commonly used to remove a player from in front of the net (the Dahlin cross check). Just because you’re obviously a Leafs fan does not mean all calls against the Leafs are egregious.

    • @bardownproductions2309
      @bardownproductions2309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he's not a Leafs fan

    • @itsbrucie1662
      @itsbrucie1662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr that take is so dumb. There are Cross checks all the time to the body and Matthews went straight to the head

    • @munaclassic4020
      @munaclassic4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      1 he isn't a leafs fan 2 super soft cross-checks were called in the season 3 tell that oh it's only to the body to the plethora of players who had upper body career ending injuries due to those cross-checks.

    • @johan1840
      @johan1840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also, Dahlin is defending the goal area. He also use more soft gloves then stick. Pretty easy call.

    • @jerd1245
      @jerd1245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itsbrucie1662 he's comparing it to the ovi cross check

  • @nicolastomas8436
    @nicolastomas8436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Matthews crosscheck was dirty, Dahlin’s play was fine

  • @pistolpete7422
    @pistolpete7422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    “But this isn’t a penalty?” 2 handed push with gloves on lol.

    • @marciimeris503
      @marciimeris503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's the Auston Matthew's rose tinted goggles.

    • @powwowken2760
      @powwowken2760 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well considering Matthews was no where close to the puck, yes it is a penalty, it's called "interference".

    • @716link
      @716link ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I had to rewind a couple times to try to see where "Dahlin cross-checked Matthews several times". Still can't find that part 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Xhsjeiuwpuys234
    @Xhsjeiuwpuys234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Horcoff “glove pass” was in the season after the cup run.

  • @marcmardini6873
    @marcmardini6873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The hand pass from the Oilers was actually the next season in 06-07 (pretty sure it was in November). The next meeting the two teams had was Stefan missing the empty net which kinda seems like karma in a way

    • @saint2e
      @saint2e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Given the Oilers coach was wearing a poppy in the footage, this makes sense.

  • @coreyhill681
    @coreyhill681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The one I remember was 2019 when Ottawa Senators got too many men penalty, then after that Colorado Avalanche was doing a change and one of the Avalanche players going over boards and then touched the puck, no call for too many men, doing the same thing that Ottawa senators did, and I still remember it, I was yelling at the TV going "What the hell" I was surprised no refs even called it

  • @BillsMafia82
    @BillsMafia82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rasmus Dahlin and Auston Matthews both should’ve got 2 minute minors for roughing, but Matthews sure as hell deserves the 2 game suspension as it was a cross check right to the neck. Dahlin didn’t deserve any games because they were not brutal cross checks or anything. But Matthews’ cross check was brutal so I think Matthews deserved the suspension.

  • @Krig13
    @Krig13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot the goal call from the 1999 Sabres Stars Stanley Cup final. The NHL has literally said that THE goal that resulted in the Stars winning the whole thing was ILLEGAL but since they had already awarded the cup and the Sabres were off the ice they just let it go.

  • @robertdimaggio7339
    @robertdimaggio7339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    2019 game 5 missed trip on Noel acciari completed changed the momentum of that cup run. That game goes into overtime if that doesn’t happen and Boston could’ve even won this series in 6 games with this call being made.

    • @lime7494
      @lime7494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FUCKING FINALLY

    • @thebaconmanthony
      @thebaconmanthony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was a poor call indeed, but I don't think it changed the momentum of the series too much. Whoever lost game 5 was probably going to win game 6 imo. It was also a potential embellishment.

    • @willp.6093
      @willp.6093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thebaconmanthony that’s not embellishment. His foot was over his head that’s not physically possible.

  • @chrisdobbs9155
    @chrisdobbs9155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That first one was just a part of the NHL fixing games. The only argument for "meant to blow the whistle" is if he meant to blow it before the shot was taken. The ref only lost view of the puck after it was in the net.

  • @MrBigtime2
    @MrBigtime2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dahlin's "crosscheck" was nothing, maybe interference at most... Matthews clearly cross-checked him in the head afterwards in retaliation. Good call.

  • @Khorney
    @Khorney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Poor Holmström, the king/victim of reputation calls.

  • @VitalGlory
    @VitalGlory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a referee the dispute rule makes sense. From when you see that a puck is dead to when you actually blow the whistle they is a slight delay. For example, goalie covers puck, referee may have to raise the whistle to mouth to blow it dead, however the play was dead before the ref blew the whistle.

    • @danielgertler5976
      @danielgertler5976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds great, and yet players were still playing. A. And B. the puck was clearly not dead in that situation so the intent to blow shouldn't really matter because the puck just happened to squeak through but the ref "intended" to call it dead?

    • @charlesmclearn4642
      @charlesmclearn4642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that the rule itself was fine, but in the example used in the video it was very improperly applied

    • @VitalGlory
      @VitalGlory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesmclearn4642 yeah the example used was complete trash. terrible call lmao.

    • @brianjohnson7484
      @brianjohnson7484 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m also a referee. I find it comical hearing the complaints about “intent to blow the whistle” and when the “whistle was actually blown” or “the puck clearly wasn’t covered” while watching it from the overhead or goal camera angle….did y’all ever consider that the official is not in the middle of the play or watching from inside the net? The home team players/coaches/crowd/parents don’t seem to get upset when there a penalty called against the visiting/opposing team. I’m not sure why though…🤔🤔🤔

    • @VitalGlory
      @VitalGlory ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianjohnson7484 Dude refs get one look at a play at full speed and from most times at a non optimized angle. Fans and review get all angles in slow motion multiple times. Fans can be brutal sometimes lol. In addition, call a penalty on the ice is harder than calling a penalty in the stands because of perspective, and at ice level you actually see less because of moving bodies in front of you.

  • @dangerducky9466
    @dangerducky9466 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there rob, I'm a ref. The first one for the "intent to blow the whistle", I've actually had to do this in local AA and A level hockey games. Usually for us, if we loose track of the puck, we have to blow it down, and if our linesman cant find it. And the intent to blow the whistle, You can't just blow the play down instantly, So giving the play goes on, the ref would probably blow the play down closer to a seccond earlier if we could blow the whistle down right then and there as we thought to. If our arms are going up, or we need to whistle it down, we do it. In our heads we think the play stops, and we react as quick as possible to stop the play, if after that little switch in our head for "dead play" is flipped, goals after it will be waved off.

  • @mathewhunter7826
    @mathewhunter7826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could be wrong, but I think the rule during the 92-93 season was if you high-sticked someone and it drew blood, you were out of the game, not just a double a minor like it is now. So Gretzky would have been completely ejected. If they called the high stick, by definition, they would have had to kick him out. I could be wrong, maybe someone can confirm?

  • @Darthoil
    @Darthoil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2017 2nd round Oilers vs Ducks Game 5. Kessler holding one of Talbot pads.

  • @Ogchampayne
    @Ogchampayne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This playoffs has got to be the worst officiating I’ve ever seen , nothing you can say about speed/ice level can save them either it’s like they’re not even out there sometimes

  • @jakobturk8013
    @jakobturk8013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    austin matthews one was a fair 2 games tbh, but i agree with the rest of your takes.

  • @DutchJunior310
    @DutchJunior310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That Matthews call was correct it was a net front battle with pushing maybe one cross check to the hip from dahlin the cross check to the neck was completely uncalled for

  • @grahamdamberger7130
    @grahamdamberger7130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still can't believe the refs didn't call Gretzky for the high stick on Gilmour. The league didn't even step in and give Gretzky a 1 game suspension or even a fine for the high stick.

    • @ruby2686
      @ruby2686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally believe we should boycott the NHL for missed calls like that sometimes and force the refs to penalize generational talents when need be and catch them on their Bull crap.

  • @Bagarmossens
    @Bagarmossens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bad take on the matthews/dahlin play. Quite obvious matthews was just frustrated after dahlin PUSHED him around and he snapped.

  • @kylestremick5108
    @kylestremick5108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time I heard someone who isn't a die hard Leaf fan acknowledge that Dahlin play. It's actually nice to see people talk about the inconsistency there.

    • @DutchJunior310
      @DutchJunior310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a net front battle it’s ok to cross check someone in the hip in front of the net it didn’t call for a cross check to the net

  • @Mrdest211
    @Mrdest211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first one is actually even worse, the reason why the ref "intended to blow the whistle" was because he lost sight of the puck, because it was in the net. Scoring the goal was the condition that made it possible for the goal to be discounted. That whole rule is insane and it's a wonder it rarely comes up. That rule literally says that the only game that actually matters is the one the refs see. Think about how absurd that is, everybody in the building could see it happen, but if 2 people in stripped jerseys don't, then it might as well have never happened at all.

  • @moofey
    @moofey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't forget the Stars' cup-winning no goal as well.

  • @LeDardeursPalace
    @LeDardeursPalace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know if you have any interest in football (soccer) but if you do and understand the rules enough or are willing to learn them, take a look at the missed calls in the English Premier League this season. I hardly watch hockey anymore but I come back to see videos like this to make me feel better about the refs in the EPL.
    Maybe watching the useless EPL refs can make you feel better about the zebras in the NHL.

    • @theWanderersnotebook
      @theWanderersnotebook 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a Liverpool fan I always have had a bone to pick with PGMOL and their handling of our matches, especially when it’s Paul Tierney involved in any capacity it really makes you think that there is an agenda against the Reds with the decisions he has made when officiating Liverpool matches.

  • @matthewgaynor843
    @matthewgaynor843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that dahlin on Matthews thing was a good non call. Stuff like this happens every single game its hockey not soccer. Matthews retaliated and went too far by crosschecking dahlin directly in the face. its safe to say rob is a leafs fan

    • @tylerjanssen4731
      @tylerjanssen4731 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the same exact thing. Great video until he exposed himself for believing Matthews to be his lord and savior.

    • @IcyMantaray
      @IcyMantaray 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      dahlin ducked, it was going to be a shoulder shot until he ducked and covered when he was gonna get his own medicine back

    • @Jabberwok28
      @Jabberwok28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IcyMantaray Irrelevant. Mathews went in looking to injure, Dahlin “ducking” has no bearing.

    • @IcyMantaray
      @IcyMantaray 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jabberwok28 dahlin went in looking to injure matthews was responding ducking because you're a pansy and getting yourself hurt is completely relevant to this scenario, it's the same as turning your back when you're about to get hit and then crying about it being on the numbers. You wanna play bang bang with the big boys don't be a coward

  • @DrewRycerz
    @DrewRycerz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trust me, Toronto's never gonna forget the Gilmour non call. - Nice music btw is that Goldeneye 64? I like your style bro lmao.

  • @pepperoninipples1178
    @pepperoninipples1178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should’ve included the infamous 99’ finals “skate in the crease” call in buffalo

  • @escolation
    @escolation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Europe head hits and cross checks are automaticly 2+10mins penalty so the players would not hit to head again and if they do it will be 5+20

  • @dilididli2274
    @dilididli2274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, the no goal for embelishement was so stupid. I can understand thata ref won't see everything in the heat of the game. But that one feel like it is some sort of vendetta.

  • @schelle8
    @schelle8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol your Matthews Dahlin take is horrible

  • @danielgertler5976
    @danielgertler5976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. "Let them play" is one thing, but when dirty plays are being made refs need to call them, because when they don't that's when players take matters into their own hands and players get injured. Honestly when injuries happen in games the refs on duty should get inquiries against them just as much as the players who committed the infraction.

  • @EveryTimeIDavid
    @EveryTimeIDavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oooooh man, I had completely forgotten about the Koivu high stick!

  • @NYCQuint
    @NYCQuint 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolute great video. I forgot about a bunch of these horrible calls.

  • @pathindsley
    @pathindsley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video's take on "worst" is more inconsistent than the refs. Why isn't Martin Gelinas's no goal not in here? Why isn't the Timo Meier hand pass to Eric Karlsson on here? Why is Brad May's goal in here but not those? Why is Matthews trying to rip Dahlin's head off on here as a missed call?

  • @BigAlvideos101
    @BigAlvideos101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about the 1999 Stanley Cup that was "won" by Dallas despite Brett Hull CLEARLY having his foot in the crease and as such, that goal shouldn't ever have counted!

  • @baber6070
    @baber6070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this definitely needs a part 2-999

  • @CuratedPile
    @CuratedPile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A "worst missed calls" video that doesn't include 2017 EDM/ANA Kesler wrapping his arm and stick around Talbot's pad and pulling NOT be considered goaltender interference on **VIDEO REVIEW** ?? I mean Kesler forced open the 5-hole that Rackell scored through. Unbelievable blown call that cost the Oilers a series win right there.

  • @axelbenson
    @axelbenson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matthews 100% deserved the suspension, and the jostling beforehand was literally nothing. They were battling for positioning, which is part of the game. Dahlin knocked him down with a SHOVE, not a crosscheck, and matthews got pissed and crosschecked him in the goddam throat. There’s a very clear line between the two

  • @tylerdog3
    @tylerdog3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate the 007 goldeneye music in the background. Thanks for that.

  • @germanpancake88
    @germanpancake88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cannot believe you left out the infamous 99 no goal

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Martin Gelinas goal vs. Tampa in the finals in 2004 still gets me. I knew that goal was in at the time, but in the era of high definition TV/replay that came just a few years later, no question, Calgary was robbed of a cup.

    • @xtraplayer7281
      @xtraplayer7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was destiny and they were robbed. Gelinas scored the winning goal to eliminate each team the flames met that year. And it should have been that goal too.

  • @ChromeWheelz1977
    @ChromeWheelz1977 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THIS, this is exactly the reason why I have zero belief in the sanctity of the NHL anymore. Why I absolutely believe that the NHL has been systemically keeping Canadian teams from winning the cup. This video right here, is exhibit A in the argument that they don't want Canadian teams to win the cup.

    • @theWanderersnotebook
      @theWanderersnotebook 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It isn’t coincidence that a Canadian team hasn’t won a Cup since the 1993 Canadiens and who was the commissioner then? Right it was Bettman and he has really shown an anti-Canadian bias in his tenure. You don’t have to look any further than the infamous Game 6 between Tampa and Calgary where Gélinas had a perfectly good goal disallowed that would have won Calgary their second Cup, the puck had clearly crossed the line as well but nope the zebras 🦓 hadn’t gotten their complimentary glasses 👓 from SpecSavers.

  • @lokei1326
    @lokei1326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed the San Jose hand pass leading to the OT winner against the Blues that Helen Keller would have seen.

  • @badgerfan1837
    @badgerfan1837 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a Red Wings fan, but the Brad May goal should've counted 110%. The whistle was after the puck was in the net. Today that play would be a goal after discussion with the situation room in Toronto. Many of these plays have resulted in rule changes, but it's sad that it takes a play like that to make a change.

  • @darthollpheist1156
    @darthollpheist1156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hand pass goal against the Flyers that the refs told the coach he wasn't allowed to challenge... then the NHL announced during the game that it was the refs mistake, yet they never fixed it. It's the worst thing I've ever seen a ref do to a team. Hands down.

  • @hendersongalbreath1072
    @hendersongalbreath1072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love the elevator music in the background of all the chaos and rage.

  • @nickrawlins8570
    @nickrawlins8570 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That first clip of Montreal was clear embellishment 😂

  • @DidWeWin1
    @DidWeWin1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember that era where a toe in the crease would nullify the goal. Something I hated so much, yet thinking about is oddly nostalgic.

  • @AirOctivParanormal
    @AirOctivParanormal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are from around Winnipeg? You have the same accent as two people I know from Winnipeg. It's the way you pronounce you're t's like in "net", "yet", "spot" and "not" to list a few. I noticed it immediately.

  • @alphajkings3284
    @alphajkings3284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the whole MTL VGK series last year had some of the worst reffing I’ve ever seen

    • @silentnyrf3161
      @silentnyrf3161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember that series for flowers fumble that cost VGK the series

  • @AnHourOfWolves
    @AnHourOfWolves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to seeing your video on all of the penalties we've seen in the playoffs this year! It's been quite amazing to see how many there have been tbh. I am all for player safety, and I would ideally like to see body contact removed from the game altogether, as well as cages introduced, but seeing half the period having penalties, it's weird.

    • @drossi101
      @drossi101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should go watch golf then.

    • @AnHourOfWolves
      @AnHourOfWolves 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drossi101 No thanks, that game is too slow and uneventful for me. I'd much rather watch hockey!

    • @drossi101
      @drossi101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnHourOfWolves doesn’t sound like it.

  • @mam362
    @mam362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    intent to blow the whistle takes into account that our nervous system takes a little bit of time to process what we are seeing, decide how to respond, and then cause us to respond

  • @hannahb9563
    @hannahb9563 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gotta say, bad calls do suck, but screaming “ref you suck” at a game has to be one of my favorite things.

  • @payrysdoscs4903
    @payrysdoscs4903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:25 My dad: *smiles proudly*

  • @MrZachtheKingsfan
    @MrZachtheKingsfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess the ‘93 illegal stick called against the Kings during the Finals was hockey karma for the Leafs series haha

    • @iix23
      @iix23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      McSorley is a hero here in MTL :D

  • @sudsysutherland359
    @sudsysutherland359 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before i even watch this I’m sure the classic Wayne Gretzky & Doug Gilmour incident will be on this list lol & Kery Fraser as the referee. Geez that series between Toronto & L.A. in 1993 is just shy of 30yrs ago already.

  • @Southern19
    @Southern19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is Pittsburgh not in this video lmao? They’ve benefited from bs calls more than anyone else

    • @MrATB99
      @MrATB99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They’ve also been screwed just as much from bad calls or lack there of, looking at Aston-Reese’s hit from Wilson when the Caps won the cup which only led to him going out for 3 games while ZAR was out all of playoffs with a broken jaw and concussion, and Sid getting chicken winged by Trouba going on concussion protocol where they’re now in the Eastern Conference Final.

  • @Vacuon
    @Vacuon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That embelishment no goal at the begining is totally insane

  • @bennewmark8354
    @bennewmark8354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the video format. You should've named it call instead of calls and make it lead up to the worst one. Makes it more suspenseful and more clickbait. Love the content hope you see this.

  • @mapleleafsinsights1150
    @mapleleafsinsights1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for saying that abt matthews it needed to be said

  • @mgodidek
    @mgodidek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video ageing like fine wine after game 5 of the battle of alberta

  • @kevmac1230
    @kevmac1230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking of" back in the day " in general before goalies started playing the "flop around on their knees" style, wraparound goals were far less common. When I played in the dark ages of the 60s - 70s, if a goalie let one in like that the coach would go nuts on us for what was then perceived as "weak goals." How the game has changed.

  • @viewfromthehighchair9391
    @viewfromthehighchair9391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can put up with some of the on-ice miscalls as I understand the refs have a great deal to watch and, as stated in the video, hockey is an incredibly fast game up close. The first time I saw a game sitting in row 6, I nearly lost my mind as I had always watched from the nose bleeds previously. It was a completely different game.
    What I can't stand is the Toronto reviewing group who have multiple angles of clear video and consistently f*ck up every single call when asked to review. They either don't know what they are doing or, somehow, have an agenda to pick winners and losers. THEY ARE TERRIBLE and, if that's the best they can do, the NHL needs to get rid of video replay and just suffer with the bad calls by the refs within the game.

  • @tonychen3368
    @tonychen3368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the heck are they calling net Front Presence a Penalty?! It doesn't make any fucking sense! No way!

  • @davidcorrow4070
    @davidcorrow4070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That 1st detroit intent to blow wistle lol that was crazy lol 😅😅😅

  • @adammunro2412
    @adammunro2412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Miss the Sunday morning uploads😭

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They will be back 🙌🏻

    • @adammunro2412
      @adammunro2412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobTalksHockey thx let’s gooo! Every Sunday morning waking up I would always watch these

  • @RathJ13
    @RathJ13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    consistency is the problem here. Even within the same game. they will let things go all game, then all of a sudden late in the 3rd decide "oh thats now a penalty"
    Ref's set a precedent for whats allowed and whats not, when they change it throughout a game, they are literally deciding the fate of the game.

  • @zachhardy.7
    @zachhardy.7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best hockey youtubers out there 🙌

  • @Seriously_Unserious
    @Seriously_Unserious 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a bit surprised those infamous Hawks vs Canucks goals of the 2009, 2010 and 2011 playoff matchups involving the Hawks scoring goals with Dustin Byfuglien literally holding Luongo down on the ice creating an empty net and no goalie interference being called?! For the first 2 of those 3 series, the Hawks would win round 1 on those blown calls and one of them led to the Hawks winning a series and going on to win the Cup, that if you took away those illegal goals, would have gone to the Canucks, NOT the Hawks winning in 2009, 2010 AND 2011. In 2011, then GM Mike Gillis finally had had enough and called the league out for bad/corrupt officiating and with the world watching, the refs were forced to call the final 3 games of that series fair. The Canucks won and went on to come within 1 win of finally winning the Stanley Cup, before another rash of some of the worst calls costing them the Cup. I'm talking plays like Todd Marchand repeatedly punching Hendrick Sedin in the face, no call, Hendrick finally has had enough and facewashes Marchand, penalty! AND Canuck hot prospect, the speedy Mason Raymond, was causing the Bruins fits with his speed, until another Bruin ended his season by holding Raymond folded over like a pretzel and ramming him head first into the boards while crumpled up in a dangerous position, causing a BROKEN NECK which could have been deadly, no call, no suspension, the league saying that was a LEGAL HIT! LEGAL! Are you EFFING KIDDING ME!? Raymond missed most of the next season, and when he finally did come back from that broken neck injury, he was no longer the blaze of speed he once was and his career faded into nothing much. He could have been one of the game's big stars, but for all those blown calls. Had the refs been calling dirty plays all along, that dirty hit would likely never have happened as the Bruin who did it would have expected it to be 5 minute match penalty for intentional attempt to injure, and would also have probably meant him being suspended for at least the rest of the playoffs. Knowing those dirty plays weren't being called, they felt they could take liberties they may not have otherwise.
    I saw those calls mainly because, I watch mostly Canucks games, but I do know that crap goes on for many other teams and it needs to stop. I know the excuse is "let them play the game" by letting them not play the game and just play some sort of weird WWE/NHL hybrid game in the playoffs where the rules aren't the rules, they're just suggestions the refs and players can follow or ignore as they see fit. That's NOT "playing the game" that's ruining the game. Letting them play the game would mean calling the rules that define what the game is as fairly, and competently as possible. If a ref sees an infraction, JUST CALL IT. I don't care if it's the first shift of the first game of exhibition play and Joe Nobody breaks a rule on Auston Matthews, or overtime in game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals and Sydney Crosby just committed a penalty on Joe Nobody. If the rules say it's a penalty, it's a penalty, no matter who did what to who, or when. A penalty is a penalty is a penalty. Call it like that and I guarantee you'd have a lot less confusion about what will or won't be called, and a lot less controversy that's only a humiliation for the league and makes the NHL look like a bush league.

  • @axe2grind244
    @axe2grind244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brett Hulls goal in the Cup finals against Buffalo is one of the worst calls in pro sports history.

  • @miccrhaafetl5101
    @miccrhaafetl5101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wings vs Kings a few years ago. A high shot off the netting above the glass, came back into play and wings scored. the ref's allowed the goal.

  • @marilllover2177
    @marilllover2177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one of the most recent bullshit ref moments was when during round 2 of this years playoffs leafs vs bolts when a leafs player get's shoved into the net and tampa doesn't get a call and then a bolts player trips marner and no call. and then a leafs player lightly touches a guy and get's a 2 min pp.

  • @SpecializedP2Ler
    @SpecializedP2Ler ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the Matthew's/Dahlin thing even in here? Hand placement is key there. Dahlin was pushing Matthew's with his hands much closer together on the stick. Matthew's delivered a full blown cross check with his hands spread fairly far apart in order to use the stick as a "weapon"

  • @nogitsune4542
    @nogitsune4542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    havent watched the vid yet, but i fully expect Las superman Punch goal to be in there

  • @CoolHandRobb
    @CoolHandRobb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed the goal that Detroit scored against LA hit the netting and bounced off Quick or the time a Shark played the puck off the bench that broke up a breakaway.

  • @burkhardt7694
    @burkhardt7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These missed calls all seem to be against good players and always in or near the playoffs. The answer is Gary Bettman is corrupt and is probably bribing the refs.

    • @Mrdest211
      @Mrdest211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn't have to bribe them, they work for the league.

  • @ajiboy1919
    @ajiboy1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved your take on the Matthews and dahlin situation. What matty did was wrong for sure but it never happens if they call one of the 4 cross checks dahlin does on him without the puck.

    • @ajiboy1919
      @ajiboy1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jedi13sm2 Yeah but the whole point was if the initial penalty was called it would have never escalated to that point. Also, never defended his actions he should've been penalized for it even though the player safety has let the same plays slide before especially since parros is there it was an inveitable suspension and I was fine with it because it deserved one even with the inconsistencies they have.

  • @dsc4178
    @dsc4178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also, Dahlin more pushed Matthews, not straight-up crosscheck.

  • @mastrum19
    @mastrum19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the sharks, the Clowe play from the bench or the league changing Meier hand pass