@@Kyrmana yeah I don’t have any interests in Fae tactics. It’s difficulty is also unbalanced and flawed. Not worth the grind to make the fights easier. Thank you though!
I liked tactic ogre because I could get random monsters as part of my team, all these games seem to be focussed on a set team of adventurers. I want to make my own team of weirdo Heroes in a tactical rpg
Firstly loved the video, and this is my favorite genre. Secondly I can't thank you enough for myself and the DEVs, that you put links to their pages in the description, super classy and super helpful.
Thanks for the video, man. Most of these games look very intriguing and I would have probably never heard of them if YT hadnt recommended this video. Thanks again!
Nothing can truly stand up to the amazing game of Final Fantasy Tactics. I personally like WOTL best and it is my favorite game of all time. FFX was my favorite up until I replayed FFT again a few months ago. Thank you for the video!
@@anab0lic I disagree bud, go back and play again and you might realize just how basic character builds were in tactics ogre, the graphics were not as good either, and when you throw in the little Easter eggs if FFT you realize that tactics ogre was quite inferior. In FFT remember stealing special items for your crew? The samurai sword, gun, perfume with reraise that only female characters can use. Riding chocobos, taming monsters, convert enemies. The stats, like zodiac signs and faith brave, all the cool gear or skills like two sword from Ninja. Then theirs the music 😭 best of any rpg ever made. The colors of the world, the flashy magic and summons, the detail on the characters and monsters so full of life and color. The story 😤 just hits deep in the feels. Doing the side quests for treasure and lore, poaching monsters, item find special, special characters like Cloud or Balthier and the robot or the dragon girl and her bf. Tactics ogre fell way short of all that, come on bro, it's ok to admit when your wrong 🤗
@@chasecharland1160 Disagree with pretty much all your points. Music and visuals vastly superior in Tactics ogre... I'm talking about the remake here by the way, the ~PSP version... FF tactics is actually hideous in comparison, has not aged well at all, much like most PS1 games. That's why I wish they would do a remake for the game. Or just give us a FFT 2. Lots of secret characters to find in Tactic ogre too, as well as unique items and such, recruitable monsters with more interesting abilities... I actually found FFT A2 to be a better game from a gameplay standpoint than the original.... its a shame that a lot of people are put off it due to its more childish appearance.
@@anab0lic You have no taste bud, and if the game needed to be remastered in order to beat fft original then that means fft was better yes? Didn't age well!? Your smoking crack, look around the internet you'll see just how much the fans love fft now more then ever. I truly don't understand what your talking about, ogre is so drab and dark, very poor graphics not even a comparison.
May I have a round of applause for Arcadian Atlas for having the audacity not to feature the word "tactics" in the title? Also, the most hype-worthy game of the bunch IMO.
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher. Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck. DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
Great video! Interesting that the best looking game imo is the only one that doesn't have tactics in the name. Arcadian Atlas looks fantastic! Wouldn't have discovered it without this video, so thank you!
already got some of the game mention on my wishlist. I think I already saw those in a similar youtube video. Thanks! it's like while waiting for triangle strategy we can also wait for this games too so add it to your list something like that...
My fav genre forever. Played both FFT and Tactics ogre. Both are great, but Tactics ogre is superior to me gameplay wise and story wise. I played most game of this genre on ps1 or ps2, like disgea, growlanser, brigandine etc. I might play some of these, Dusk looks good and I already put wishlist on vanaris. I hope more games like Arc The Lad though. Not pure tactic but with more free roaming, quest and mini games. I never really encounter one like that though.
Great video, thank you so much for this. I'm always wanting to find more tactical RPGs, or any JRPGs, specifically turn based, so great video, I've added most of these to my wish list now. Looks like Spiritbound tactics is now Spiritlink Tactics
Just discovered this channel; nice video, subscribed. While I have no quarrel with being sprite based, a few of these are hitting too closely to the bareboned side of things, at least visuals-wise. I've played a few other tactics games after FFT I liked, such as Fell Seal. My main gripe is usually the lack of playstyle options especially if the class/skill variety isn't large. Frankly from this quick look I'm most interested in Voxel Tactics, as it mentions base management; hopefully it won't be as watered down as I fear. The rest don't really seem to showcase stuff that differentiates them from other tactics games, though admittedly we barely get much of glimpse of them in this video. As a dev and modder, I know art assets are a constraint but adding something like e.g. a mentor system doesn't need a whackload of new assets. edit: I got "VOXEL tactics" confused with "VOXIE tactics" - the video is talking about the first one. The second one is a free2play game, with NFTs... yeah I'm not going near that garbage. So be careful when you're searching for info on these games, make sure the results are pointing to the correct one.
If you liked these games you are probably going to enjoy such classics as Vandal Hearts & Suikoden Tactics. All "Tactics" games are S(imulations)R.P.G. and this new wave is very promising
I find i really love my tactical RPG's. Really hyped for Arcadian Atlas! I'd have to say the best tactics rpg i've played recently is Fae Tactics. Such a great game.
@@TurnBasedLovers It might sound strange, but im just taken aback from the artstyle of Fell Seal. I played it a little and the tactical/class systems are solid though.
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher. Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck. DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
Not an indie game, but a good honorable mention is its spiritual successor should be "Final Fantasy Brave Exvius : War of the Visions" (WOTV) Ramza, Delita, Orlandeau and Agrias are even playable characters in it if anyone wanna start playing come join me and my cousin's guild - "Bahamut Tear" haha peace mates!!
Gaming as my hobby and love started with Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. My first Game that i owned ever. And i still love it soooo much and i rly rly hope that we can get a Remake of it or at least a remaster. Im hyped for Triangle Strategy (Demo is great), lets hope it sells rly good, would help a lot for the posibility of a FFT Remake oder new Game of the Series.
This made me remember about Unsung Story. Sucks that there's unlikely to be another Tactics Ogre entry. Also Spiritbound Tactics looks REALLY similar to FFT Advance. The snow area and the mines are too close for comfort.
Ciao Justin, yes very long development. I've been following him since I started the blog. It was 2018 :) Anyway it's very promising. Thanks for your message :)
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher. Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck. DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
Ciao Marcello, questo commento lo scrivo in Italiano (è tardissimo e non ho le forze per l'inglese). Come sempre complimenti per il video, utilissimo, oltretutto il genere che tratti qui è uno dei miei preferiti. Unico appunto, che probabilmente deriva dalla tua giovane età (in confronto alla mia sicuramente) è l'aver messo come riferimento, paragone, ma soprattutto in maniera implicita come capostipite, Final Fantasy Tacics per il genere Simulation-RPG, come sono chiamati in Giappone. Ovviamente, ma penso tu ne sia a conoscenza, i primi e più gloriosi esponenti del genere sono, non citando i meno conosciuti dai quali poi sono scaturiti i veri titoli che hanno definito il genere, Shining Force, Fire Emblem, Langrisser ecc.
Grazie mille per il tuo messaggio e per questo appunto che rende il video ancora più utile. Conosco i giochi che hai indicato ma non sapevo che venivano chiamati Simulation-RPG
@@TurnBasedLovers Immaginavo che tu li conoscessi. Oltretutto comprendo anche il motivo per il quale hai usato Final Fantasy Tactics come esempio, ovvero il suddetto gioco per molti è stato proprio il titolo che ha fatto scoprire il genere in occidente. Rinnovo comunque i complimenti, stai facendo davvero un grandissimo lavoro, e si percepisce benissimo la passione in ogni tua opera. 😉
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher. Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck. DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves. As to the story...Taylor is an absolutely awful writer from what little I did see.
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher. Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck. DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
I'm glad you made this new video. It's a very unexpected idea for a sub-genre list video. BTW, there are so many uses of the word 'Tactics' in the game titles. In fact, 9 out of the 10 titles mentioned in the description/video. It's like, can't the developers come up with more interesting alternatives to the titling while still letting people work out that it might be tactics-based? Lol.
@@belfosama It's a bad game imo. Story and characters-wise. Really lame story (imho) with really lame chars (imho). Tactics are meh at best, definitely not enough to keep me interested. Graphics also are not. General mechanics and UI clunky.
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher. Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck. DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
Its funny how ff tactics wasn't super popular, but clearly it's a masterpiece that everyone wants to achieve nowadays. And it's clear that there's been no other that can come near its perfection. The only one that looks the most appealing to me would be Spiritbound tactics. Alot of the issues I see are graphics issues; they're either too brown or lack an appealing style that doesn't say "Deviantart". I think some of the mechanics to some of the games look ok, but they definitely need to rebrand the look.
It must also be said that games of this type cannot be expected from AAA pubs & devs. So also for this reason they are to be appreciated and supported.
Same goes for Heroes of might and magic series: the 3rd part (1998) is still the best and is still active (thanks to community)! Some genre titans seem to be hard to repeat. It’s sad.
I really wish they would release these for handhelds… Though with the upcoming Steam Deck… I’d probably get the Steamdeck if it could run all these tactics games!
1:13 This map is dangerously treading the territory of plagiarism (the 1-on-1 duel between the protagonist and a certain villain). You can pay homage to your beloved title, but not in such way. On the other hand, I am baffled with the poor, regressed old-school pixelated visual effect (even poorer than the original Tactics Ogre) most of these games are employing. FFT set the foundation and gold standard of modern fantasy particle effect. So while I am not overall impressed by Triangle Strategy, their visual effect department is on the right direction.
I just saw the name of your vid and i thought "ok i'll give it a shot", but then i saw your youtube channel name "turn based lovers" and immediately hit the subscribe button
Ironically these just make me wanna play FFT more then these games. They look good and are probably going to be really fun, but idk I guess once I play the orginal most versions that are inspired just seem like they are trying to copy or just don't live up to the orginal game.
@@gmoorisson FFT is. But Vandal Hearts came out first. And with Square backing FFT, it had more money in advertising. Also taking the FF title gained a larger customer base. I was alive and playing the PS1 when both games came out. I bought Vandel Hearts when it came out being a ttrp and war gammer. Then bought FFT because I loved FF VII, FF VIII and FF IX. Guess which one came out first? Don't get me wrong. I loved FFT. But Vandal Hearts was followed by FFT. Go play Vandal Hearts and tell me what you think.
@@roamingcelt ok, you clearly don't know that: 1) Tactics Ogre came out BEFORE Vandal Hearts. 2) The person who created Tactics Ogre (Matsuno) is also the same person who created Final Fantasy Tactics. Like I said, it's a spiritual successor. 3) I also was alive well before all of these games have came out and played all of them. You're trying so hard to make it seem like FFT borrowed concepts from Vandal Hearts when Matsuno never stated anything about being influenced by that game. Why would he? He already made Tactics Ogre which is better than Vandal Hearts.
The problem is that there isn't much of a market for classic strategy rpgs, and the companies that do make them still, don't understand what makes those games great. And people who want these games, just play them anyways, because there's not many options. I still love the classics, but I can't play the half assed knock offs anymore... I've got plenty of other genres of rpgs to play these days. Still wish more games like shining force, and tactics ogre, fft; even more obscure ones like Kartia, og vandal hearts, etc were still being made. Triangle strategy is the only good one I've seen in years, that wasn't named fire emblem
Putting your splash screen in the video every 60 or so seconds is really obnoxious.. I did like three of the titles you mentioned though, so I guess I'll let you off the hook this time.
I was just thinking of removing that splash screen and I was waiting for a response of this kind. From the next videos there will be no more. :) Thank you so much :)
I would like Vanaris Tactics a lot more if they weren't so blatant with the art style theft. Give homage to Ogre tactics and FFT, don't try and rip them off entirely. Those games are too good and you'll just look cheap by a direct comparison. Plus I love Joe Biden and hate Drumpf.
While waiting for Triangle Strategy, here are more games like it.... that you have to wait for. Fantastic.
I Was thinking the same 😅👍
Lol bruh I feel you! 😩😭
I can recommend Fae Tactics, that one's already out ;)
@@Kyrmana yeah I don’t have any interests in Fae tactics. It’s difficulty is also unbalanced and flawed. Not worth the grind to make the fights easier. Thank you though!
@@Pjust203 how much have you played? Because I never had any trouble with grinding, in fact I don't think I ever had to do a non-story battle.
we absolutely love turn based games, we take our coffee and play at our own time & calmy vibes, no rush nor stress 🤙
You're so right. Anyway, there are slow pace real time games and others with the feature of tactical pause that can be enjoyable.
I liked tactic ogre because I could get random monsters as part of my team, all these games seem to be focussed on a set team of adventurers. I want to make my own team of weirdo Heroes in a tactical rpg
Same
Exactly!
I just love generic units with classes or monster that were enemies! Always skip on story characters in Disgaea haha
You should try Phantom Brave or other NIS similar games
Firstly loved the video, and this is my favorite genre. Secondly I can't thank you enough for myself and the DEVs, that you put links to their pages in the description, super classy and super helpful.
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you so much for your feedback :)
Thanks for the video, man. Most of these games look very intriguing and I would have probably never heard of them if YT hadnt recommended this video. Thanks again!
Glad I could help! :)
Nothing can truly stand up to the amazing game of Final Fantasy Tactics. I personally like WOTL best and it is my favorite game of all time. FFX was my favorite up until I replayed FFT again a few months ago. Thank you for the video!
Couldn't agree more. Thank you for your message. Really appreciated. :)
FF tactics is good, but Tactics ogre : let us cling together took it to a whole other level.
@@anab0lic I disagree bud, go back and play again and you might realize just how basic character builds were in tactics ogre, the graphics were not as good either, and when you throw in the little Easter eggs if FFT you realize that tactics ogre was quite inferior. In FFT remember stealing special items for your crew? The samurai sword, gun, perfume with reraise that only female characters can use. Riding chocobos, taming monsters, convert enemies. The stats, like zodiac signs and faith brave, all the cool gear or skills like two sword from Ninja.
Then theirs the music 😭 best of any rpg ever made. The colors of the world, the flashy magic and summons, the detail on the characters and monsters so full of life and color. The story 😤 just hits deep in the feels. Doing the side quests for treasure and lore, poaching monsters, item find special, special characters like Cloud or Balthier and the robot or the dragon girl and her bf.
Tactics ogre fell way short of all that, come on bro, it's ok to admit when your wrong 🤗
@@chasecharland1160 Disagree with pretty much all your points. Music and visuals vastly superior in Tactics ogre... I'm talking about the remake here by the way, the ~PSP version... FF tactics is actually hideous in comparison, has not aged well at all, much like most PS1 games. That's why I wish they would do a remake for the game. Or just give us a FFT 2. Lots of secret characters to find in Tactic ogre too, as well as unique items and such, recruitable monsters with more interesting abilities... I actually found FFT A2 to be a better game from a gameplay standpoint than the original.... its a shame that a lot of people are put off it due to its more childish appearance.
@@anab0lic You have no taste bud, and if the game needed to be remastered in order to beat fft original then that means fft was better yes? Didn't age well!? Your smoking crack, look around the internet you'll see just how much the fans love fft now more then ever. I truly don't understand what your talking about, ogre is so drab and dark, very poor graphics not even a comparison.
Thanks for Featuring Cascade Tactics! I know all turn based fans are really going to enjoy the unique gameplay on tactics genre!
No problem! We will enjoy it for sure, and can't wait till that day :)
Are you one of the devs? Is it staying PC only?
Yes, I think he is. But I don't if Cascade Tactics will be a PC exclusive
May I have a round of applause for Arcadian Atlas for having the audacity not to feature the word "tactics" in the title?
Also, the most hype-worthy game of the bunch IMO.
Hahaha. You are totally right :)
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher.
Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck.
DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
I’ve loved these type of strategy games ever since the Shining Force series on the Sega Genesis, I wish more companies made them
You are right, that's why I love indie games. "Make games that no one does anymore"
Great video! Interesting that the best looking game imo is the only one that doesn't have tactics in the name. Arcadian Atlas looks fantastic! Wouldn't have discovered it without this video, so thank you!
Hahaha you are right. Despite its long development phase, it looks very cool.
Love the content. Spoke to my adolescent with Ogre Tactics and FFT. So glad I found your article that brought me here. Please keep the content coming!
Thank you so much, really appreciate your comment. Thanks for follow 😊
Ogre tactics is forever legendary!
already got some of the game mention on my wishlist. I think I already saw those in a similar youtube video. Thanks! it's like while waiting for triangle strategy we can also wait for this games too so add it to your list something like that...
You are right, my sentence is really ridiculous..😵 that wasn't exactly what I meant. hahah 😂
Anyway, thank you for your comment
Awesome video. So many of these I didn't know about
Thank you. I'm glad you liked
Spiritbound tactics is now Spiritlink Tactics, it has a demo and very promising.
Ciao Joseph. Thank you so much for the news. Now I'm very interested in trying the demo.
Wow that cascade tactics map is a literal carbon copy of the belias fight in fft
Hahaha Yes you are right :)
Amazing list, Marcello! Added them all
Thank you so much 😊😊
My fav genre forever.
Played both FFT and Tactics ogre.
Both are great, but Tactics ogre is superior to me gameplay wise and story wise.
I played most game of this genre on ps1 or ps2, like disgea, growlanser, brigandine etc.
I might play some of these, Dusk looks good and I already put wishlist on vanaris.
I hope more games like Arc The Lad though.
Not pure tactic but with more free roaming, quest and mini games.
I never really encounter one like that though.
Habe you played warsong(sega genesis) yet? If not try it out
Great video, thank you so much for this. I'm always wanting to find more tactical RPGs, or any JRPGs, specifically turn based, so great video, I've added most of these to my wish list now. Looks like Spiritbound tactics is now Spiritlink Tactics
Thank you so much, really appreciate it :)
Just discovered this channel; nice video, subscribed.
While I have no quarrel with being sprite based, a few of these are hitting too closely to the bareboned side of things, at least visuals-wise. I've played a few other tactics games after FFT I liked, such as Fell Seal. My main gripe is usually the lack of playstyle options especially if the class/skill variety isn't large. Frankly from this quick look I'm most interested in Voxel Tactics, as it mentions base management; hopefully it won't be as watered down as I fear. The rest don't really seem to showcase stuff that differentiates them from other tactics games, though admittedly we barely get much of glimpse of them in this video. As a dev and modder, I know art assets are a constraint but adding something like e.g. a mentor system doesn't need a whackload of new assets.
edit: I got "VOXEL tactics" confused with "VOXIE tactics" - the video is talking about the first one. The second one is a free2play game, with NFTs... yeah I'm not going near that garbage. So be careful when you're searching for info on these games, make sure the results are pointing to the correct one.
Ciao Paul. Welcome to the TBL community :) Yes i heard about Voxie Tactics too...
Fantastic video, some great recommendations there. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I love 2D sprites, but they should at least make better animations. Some of those titles has less frames per animation than FF Tactics had. lol
Yeah, tbh these all looked the same as eachother.
Thank you, i will wait for absolute tactics.
If you liked these games you are probably going to enjoy such classics as Vandal Hearts & Suikoden Tactics. All "Tactics" games are S(imulations)R.P.G. and this new wave is very promising
Thanks for the contribution, yes, those are great classics and will add them in one of my next videos. Thank you
I find i really love my tactical RPG's. Really hyped for Arcadian Atlas!
I'd have to say the best tactics rpg i've played recently is Fae Tactics. Such a great game.
Yes, Arcadian Atlas is on eof the most anticipated for me too. I don't know if you've also played Fell Seal before, if don't, you must do it :)
@@TurnBasedLovers It might sound strange, but im just taken aback from the artstyle of Fell Seal. I played it a little and the tactical/class systems are solid though.
Yes you are right, maybe the art style it's not one of the best out there.
@@personaslates Same here!! while I enjoyed the class/skills system, the visual effects where kind of weird...
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher.
Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck.
DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
You need to add Symphony Of War, its one of the best tactics game i have ever played.
Amazingly addictive with good story
Yeah, added to my top 30 turn-based RPGs of the last 2 years.
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Not an indie game, but a good honorable mention is its spiritual successor should be
"Final Fantasy Brave Exvius : War of the Visions" (WOTV)
Ramza, Delita, Orlandeau and Agrias are even playable characters in it
if anyone wanna start playing come join me and my cousin's guild - "Bahamut Tear"
haha peace mates!!
Thanks mate for the suggestion. 😉
Haha im playing WOTV too. Great game!
Gaming as my hobby and love started with Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. My first Game that i owned ever. And i still love it soooo much and i rly rly hope that we can get a Remake of it or at least a remaster. Im hyped for Triangle Strategy (Demo is great), lets hope it sells rly good, would help a lot for the posibility of a FFT Remake oder new Game of the Series.
Good times ah? Yes, I'm really hyped for TS too 😊😊
Triangle Strategy seems to be a worthy successor to Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy Tactics!
Arcadian atlas looks the best
Yeah it looks very good. The development seems never-ending, but it is very charming :)
I would like to add Fae Tactics. Instead of jobs, you had monster summons alotted to you but they functioned similarly.
Another great preview lineup, showed me some new diamonds in the rough to put on my radar
Thanks Joe, I'm glad you found something interesting here. Wish you the best
This made me remember about Unsung Story. Sucks that there's unlikely to be another Tactics Ogre entry.
Also Spiritbound Tactics looks REALLY similar to FFT Advance. The snow area and the mines are too close for comfort.
Which is the biggest crime in game hisyory imo. People were willing to throw millions at it and nothing came out of it.
Best alternative to Final Fantasy Tactics that I have played so far is Fell Seal. It might even be better. Absolutely love both.
Agree Zak. Fell Seal is a great game :)
I'm so happy i found this video, you earned my sub and likes!
Ciao Ariel, thank you so much. :)
would like to see some of these on switch or even ps5. look great!!!!
Arcadian Atlas has been on my steam wishlist for a decade now.
Ciao Justin, yes very long development. I've been following him since I started the blog. It was 2018 :) Anyway it's very promising. Thanks for your message :)
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher.
Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck.
DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
Ciao Marcello, questo commento lo scrivo in Italiano (è tardissimo e non ho le forze per l'inglese).
Come sempre complimenti per il video, utilissimo, oltretutto il genere che tratti qui è uno dei miei preferiti.
Unico appunto, che probabilmente deriva dalla tua giovane età (in confronto alla mia sicuramente) è l'aver messo come riferimento, paragone, ma soprattutto in maniera implicita come capostipite, Final Fantasy Tacics per il genere Simulation-RPG, come sono chiamati in Giappone.
Ovviamente, ma penso tu ne sia a conoscenza, i primi e più gloriosi esponenti del genere sono, non citando i meno conosciuti dai quali poi sono scaturiti i veri titoli che hanno definito il genere, Shining Force, Fire Emblem, Langrisser ecc.
Grazie mille per il tuo messaggio e per questo appunto che rende il video ancora più utile. Conosco i giochi che hai indicato ma non sapevo che venivano chiamati Simulation-RPG
@@TurnBasedLovers Immaginavo che tu li conoscessi.
Oltretutto comprendo anche il motivo per il quale hai usato Final Fantasy Tactics come esempio, ovvero il suddetto gioco per molti è stato proprio il titolo che ha fatto scoprire il genere in occidente.
Rinnovo comunque i complimenti, stai facendo davvero un grandissimo lavoro, e si percepisce benissimo la passione in ogni tua opera. 😉
Between these I think I like Arcadia Atlas... The story could pretty good~
Agree with you :)
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher.
Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck.
DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
As to the story...Taylor is an absolutely awful writer from what little I did see.
@@Nick-hi9gx sorry they did you dirty
Very innovative names for these tactics games...
Hahaha. 🤪🤪🤪
I love tactic games ❤️ great vid you should make one on voxies and nft game coming out that's turn based tactics like fft
Ciao Trevor. Will take a look at them soon. Thank you for your comment. Which of these games interest you the most?
I wish to see another Atlas Reactor like simultaneous turn based game in my lifetime.
Even tho I love CRPG games but the battle system has aged a bit.
Atlas Reactor was so good and unique, too bad it didn't last :(
My fav turn-based of all time is Stella Deus from PS2.
Agree with you, great game
After I finish my latest War of the Lions run I know what I'm doing next.
Haha :) Right :)
Arcadian Atlas and Absolute Tactics piqued my interest little, will see when they come out.
You are right, both looks good.
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher.
Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck.
DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
Will they be available on Android or it's just for PC?
Ciao, for now they are all pc games.
I'm glad you made this new video. It's a very unexpected idea for a sub-genre list video.
BTW, there are so many uses of the word 'Tactics' in the game titles. In fact, 9 out of the 10 titles mentioned in the description/video.
It's like, can't the developers come up with more interesting alternatives to the titling while still letting people work out that it might be tactics-based? Lol.
Hahaha. Maybe you are right. Be faithful to final Fantasy tactics till the last word....
Crimson Grids: The Rise of the White Banner
@@blackmarchstudios hahaha. this is nice
Wonder how many of these are going to be in early access for eternity
Don't know, but I'm positive. 👍😊
Reverie Knights Tactics and Arcadian Atlas looks very promising.
Reverie Knights is interesting. I tried the free prologue, and it deserves attention for sure. Can't wait for Arcadian Atlas too.
I tried and disliked Reverie Knights Tactics.. will definitely not get it.
@@Godwinsname Why?
@@belfosama It's a bad game imo. Story and characters-wise. Really lame story (imho) with really lame chars (imho). Tactics are meh at best, definitely not enough to keep me interested. Graphics also are not. General mechanics and UI clunky.
Don't support Arcadian Atlas. The developer, Becca Bair, and I were good friends for 5 years. She stole a couple of my ideas for her game. So did her brother, Taylor. Which I honestly would have been entirely fine with if they'd asked, or even THANKED me afterward. Both still deny it. They received $95,000 from a Kickstarter, and got almost nothing done in 4 years. I was essentially their community manager, for free, because nobody would go on Steam, Reddit or their Kickstarter and say anything about the delays. Finally, they got a publisher and are trucking along. I got to play early, and also got to see the build they had completed when the Kickstarter was created. In 4 years they did almost no work, while Becca lived off that money until it ran out, then off her husband until she cheated on him. With her fiance now. Who is also a game dev (with a successful game on Steam and Switch) and seems to be the only reason they got picked up by their publisher.
Also what I've played of the game is bland as fuck.
DOn't support Twin Otter Studios. It is just Becca and Taylor, and both are horrible people and IP thieves.
Its funny how ff tactics wasn't super popular, but clearly it's a masterpiece that everyone wants to achieve nowadays. And it's clear that there's been no other that can come near its perfection. The only one that looks the most appealing to me would be Spiritbound tactics. Alot of the issues I see are graphics issues; they're either too brown or lack an appealing style that doesn't say "Deviantart". I think some of the mechanics to some of the games look ok, but they definitely need to rebrand the look.
I appreciate this kind of effort to make this kind of games. But nothing like FFT, my personal Best game ever made
It must also be said that games of this type cannot be expected from AAA pubs & devs. So also for this reason they are to be appreciated and supported.
Same goes for Heroes of might and magic series: the 3rd part (1998) is still the best and is still active (thanks to community)! Some genre titans seem to be hard to repeat. It’s sad.
Visually I like Voxel and Absolute Tactics the best.
Agree with you, especially Voxel Tactics.
These games look like they would be at home on the vita or any handheld device.
Great research!
Thank you very much :)
I really wish they would release these for handhelds… Though with the upcoming Steam Deck… I’d probably get the Steamdeck if it could run all these tactics games!
Yes Steamdeck will be great for these games. I will get it too.
Yes!
5:30 why is this not for consoles?! Please please bring to PS4/5 XBox🙏
I still remember how im grinding for blur mage skill, that was horrible but fun🤣😭
Blue mage
Good Narrator voice overview of these games
I'm quite sure, the narrator's voice is the worst part in this video 😂😂😂 anyway thank you 😊
@@TurnBasedLovers You should give yourself more credit. You do a great job.
Thanks. Fortunately I'm not taking myself too serious. I know I'm not a great speaker, but what's important on this channel are the games 😊👍
1:13 This map is dangerously treading the territory of plagiarism (the 1-on-1 duel between the protagonist and a certain villain). You can pay homage to your beloved title, but not in such way.
On the other hand, I am baffled with the poor, regressed old-school pixelated visual effect (even poorer than the original Tactics Ogre) most of these games are employing. FFT set the foundation and gold standard of modern fantasy particle effect. So while I am not overall impressed by Triangle Strategy, their visual effect department is on the right direction.
Glad I’m not the only one to notice it was the same map
anyone else recognize the maps in spiritbound tactics as direct pulls from Final Fantasy Advanced?
Hi what’s that games in the intro at 25s looks like u walk into a fort with a wood poles walls
Ciao, it's Stoneshard. Ready to leave early access during this month :)
I just saw the name of your vid and i thought "ok i'll give it a shot", but then i saw your youtube channel name "turn based lovers" and immediately hit the subscribe button
Hahaha. Ciao Rick, welcome to turn based lovers channel :)
I wish someone would make a tactics game like Valkyria Chronicles instead.
FFT 4 ever Vandal Hearts my love , Konami
Spirit bound actually looks the closest but then again expect nothing from the storyline
Yes, we must wait to learn more about the storyline. Arcadian Atlas seems to have a promising story. Anyway thanks for your comment.
TH-cam showed me this video on the home page only now. I hate it.
Arcadian Atlas, Absolute Tactics, Reverie Knights have sparked my interest.
Haha. Better than never, right? 😂
Anything coming to mobile? I wanna play a tactics on-the-go
Not for now. We must wait for the PC release and maybe after that will also be released on mobile.
cool list i will get some of them
Thank you so much :)
Final Fantasy Tactics (1997) was inspired by VANDAL HEARTS (1996), which one is better by the way. ;)
The content is great, but there are a lot of unnecessary flashy effects, it Was painful to look at before bed
Ciao Adrien, you mean the intro right?
@@TurnBasedLovers Intro was the main turnoff for me yes, lot of flashy lights and quick transitions.
@@Tubublobzz Ok, i will fix it soon. Thanks :)
1:13 that is the exact map from the last fight with wiegraf...
Lol it is
It does not have the smae level of aesthetic s as OG ff tactics, but let's hope the gameplay pays off.
I'm very optimistic about these games in terms of gameplay. Thanks for your message Leon.
Voxel Tactics looks like they were inspired by cube world graphics wise.
Yes, it looks like it.
Thumbnail game? Glimps at 0:25
I guess, they are called 'tactics' games for something lol
Hahaha. Right 😂
There are too many white flashes in the intro, my eyes are bleeding.
Ok, i will try to fix it. Thanks for the heads up
looking good
Thanks for the visit :)
woooow they all look great
Love this
😉
4:49 Wiengraf?! Is that you? Wait, I don’t see Boco…
All good. But you know hope this can be playablr in android. So we can play anytime anywhere, but still on steam so kinda sucks
Anyone else think of something different when they first read this TH-cam channel? 😂
a meeting place perhaps? :(
Ironically these just make me wanna play FFT more then these games. They look good and are probably going to be really fun, but idk I guess once I play the orginal most versions that are inspired just seem like they are trying to copy or just don't live up to the orginal game.
Except Final Fantasy Tactics isn't the true original, Tactics Ogre is.
1:14 omg. please. not that belias place thing.
Are any of these on playstore
FFT took it's tactics from a game released earlier called "Vandal Hearts".
It should be Tactics Ogre. FFT & Tactics Ogre share the same director and some staff members.
Wtf are you smoking? FFT is a literal spiritual successor of Tactics Ogre.
@@gmoorisson FFT is. But Vandal Hearts came out first. And with Square backing FFT, it had more money in advertising. Also taking the FF title gained a larger customer base.
I was alive and playing the PS1 when both games came out. I bought Vandel Hearts when it came out being a ttrp and war gammer. Then bought FFT because I loved FF VII, FF VIII and FF IX. Guess which one came out first?
Don't get me wrong. I loved FFT. But Vandal Hearts was followed by FFT. Go play Vandal Hearts and tell me what you think.
@@roamingcelt ok, you clearly don't know that:
1) Tactics Ogre came out BEFORE Vandal Hearts.
2) The person who created Tactics Ogre (Matsuno) is also the same person who created Final Fantasy Tactics. Like I said, it's a spiritual successor.
3) I also was alive well before all of these games have came out and played all of them.
You're trying so hard to make it seem like FFT borrowed concepts from Vandal Hearts when Matsuno never stated anything about being influenced by that game. Why would he? He already made Tactics Ogre which is better than Vandal Hearts.
SE needs to make a game called Final Fantasy Strategy so we can call it ffs.
So anything that has “Tactics” in its title? Got it.
Hahaha. Right 👍
The problem is that there isn't much of a market for classic strategy rpgs, and the companies that do make them still, don't understand what makes those games great. And people who want these games, just play them anyways, because there's not many options. I still love the classics, but I can't play the half assed knock offs anymore... I've got plenty of other genres of rpgs to play these days.
Still wish more games like shining force, and tactics ogre, fft; even more obscure ones like Kartia, og vandal hearts, etc were still being made. Triangle strategy is the only good one I've seen in years, that wasn't named fire emblem
Unfortunate that only one of these isn't on PC :/
Cool
Thanks 😊
thank so much, nice games
Glad you like them! Thanks for your message Carlos. What is the one that interests you the most?
Putting your splash screen in the video every 60 or so seconds is really obnoxious.. I did like three of the titles you mentioned though, so I guess I'll let you off the hook this time.
I was just thinking of removing that splash screen and I was waiting for a response of this kind. From the next videos there will be no more. :) Thank you so much :)
:( most of those graphics would fit on a phone which not a one was on. I want a lower end graphics tbs like ff tactics that's utterly massive.
Mobile?
Project triangle strategy
I would like Vanaris Tactics a lot more if they weren't so blatant with the art style theft. Give homage to Ogre tactics and FFT, don't try and rip them off entirely. Those games are too good and you'll just look cheap by a direct comparison. Plus I love Joe Biden and hate Drumpf.
do they really all need to use the word "tactics" in the name, like really? Great video though, can't wait start on most of these~
Vanaris Tactics art stile looks like a discount FFT... XD
only ONE console one on the entire list?! :-(
The best way - lauch FF Tactics afain than this pity clones/
Прошла куча лет, а никто так и не может сделать игру круче хита Мацуно.