Titanic Ending Explained: Why Jack Had to Die
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Yep but Jack could've taught her to live and give her a lifetime of adventure and love , they could have shared that life. Many times people are in our lives that shape who we are and don't necessarily have to die,in my opinion this served as a dramatic effect and nothing more
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ScreenPrism do one on Samantha from Sex and the city please!
No
NUTAN
Jack had to die because the writer write so..
This has made me realize Jack served a purpose that’s stereotypically given to female characters insofar as bolstering a male character and giving them a reason to go on. I never noticed that flip before, and it’s pretty brilliant for a late 90s romance set in a historical tragedy.
TheShamefulNarcissist I know I’m like in awe right now
a manic pixie dream boy!
oops..just got to the part in the video where they made this point
Nichola Marshall but you are right! When they first said that he came into her life to teach her a lesson that’s the first thing that I thought of!
I read an article about this recently and they went even further and said that Leo fulfilled the stereotypically female role of being James Cameron’s new starlet. It was very interesting.
2 things I took away from this...
1. Rose is the Hero
2. Jack is the sexy life coach
..... that's fair
how is rose the hero😭
serena matti watch the video 😑
😂😂😂
If you look at Titanic that way, t's actually a sort of saltwater version of "The Legend of Bagger Vance."
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I can’t be the only one that literally bawled their eyes out when rose told the man her name was Rose Dawson...😭😭😭
same here... i just don't understand the whole point of rose finding a will to live if the love of her life is dead. and the movie suggests that she devoted her life to him. i don't feel like she lived truly happily, she married another man and had kids because that's what jack wanted her to do.
Smooth Criminal naw, you want a Leonardo DiCaprio in your life
cam i no I did 😭😭😭😭
No I did it to and Jack can't only be in her mind cuz he drawed her and the drawing was found
@@jabukakruska9423 Bc if she didnt have the will to live that would of been a slap in the face to the man she loved, the the man that saved her life.
He died because of me and i lived because of him
-Rose
She said... What
SOO TRUE!!!
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Wouldn't he have died anyway though?... Men from 3rd class weren't given a lifeboat or anything from what I saw in the movie. In Jack's case, at least he died saving a woman's life...
"Jack didn't have to die."
Well, the Titanic didn't have to sink either, nor did those 1,500 people have to die.
Life is full of unfortunate occurrences.
I knowww!!
titanic wasn,t supposed to sink from an impact with an icebirg she was built to with stand all kinds of frontal impact limitng it at two or three compartment being flood at the most . what they never expected wa sto have a slide side impact that would buckle that hall on 5 compartment . If they had hit that icebirg head on the ship would have made it to New York anyway .thats why they modified the Britannic so that it could stay afloat even with 6 compartments flooded . what they didn,t expect in her case was to have some disobidient nuses opening the lower front deck,s portholes even if they were strictly told to keep them shut in times of war . Britannic didn,t sink becasue of the explosion it sank because once it stppepd sinking the ship tilted a bit and the opened portholes went underwater and from there she tilted enough to go on her side . from there she was doomed . when it comes to ships its the same as planes .its mostly human errors of judgement when murdock applied the brakes he caused the ship to lose its directional capabilities and when he finally managed to steer it he caused 5 compartments to buckle on impact while a head on collision would have greatly avoided the sinking .when thoose nurse opened those portholes even after being strongly told not to they casued the britannic to sink when she should have . now a days ships ahve automatic system that shuts every opening for water to come in . at the minute the switch is pulled to closed the water tight compartments all the portholes and hall doors completly shuts and lock and they only way to unlock them is with a security clearence
guy tremblay honestly, you took too long to write this
i was the 1.1k like on ur thing XD
Jack had to die. Titanic had to sink. 1,500 people did have to die. I’m sorry. You’re wrong.
That song by Celine wouldn’t have hit as hard if he survived
It is a funeral song,after all
True
Mate, it *wouldn't* have hit. Her heart wouldn't have *needed* to "go on" loving him (in the "You're dead but I still love you way) 😂😂. But I get you.
Yeh
Bahhhahhha of course
Jack wanted to live
Rose wanted to die
Jack died for Rose
Rose lived for Jack
Wouh wouh wouh
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I'd never wish a fate like that on anyone.. Damn this hits hard
Mhm good logic
Me like it
How table turn
The motive of this movie was to show the "emotional impact" of the Titanic disaster. Jack represents all the 1500 people who died on that ship, while Rose represents the 700 survivors. James Cameron wanted the audience to feel how the real survivors felt when they lost their loved ones in the sinking. That's why the story is narrated by Rose in the movie. She tells everyone about her time on the ship and how she, a survivor, felt when she the lost the love of her life, just like the 700 real people whose feelings she represents in the movie.
Exactly... we wouldn't have felt the loss, had it been just random people that died. It had to be someone we loved and I personally feel like Rose had to live so that she can experience the life she's been missing her whole life.
I made a comment almost similar to this one & found yours now...! Jack represents all the men who sacrificed & rose represents all the women who lived ♥️💔
This sounds like an English essay. My English teacher would be proud 😳
That is quite a perfect way of describing the movie. And it's completely true. How else are you going to connect the audience in learning an important event in history if they have no connection to any of the characters. Getting them to have some form of connection to a character is the perfect way for the audience to feel that type of loss the survivors felt.
Exactly. James Cameron created the characters of Rose and Jack, gave us as the audience 3 hours to develop an emotional attachment and sense of empathy towards both of them, and then killed off one of them, leaving the other to grieve, so that we could see how this tragedy impacted the actual survivors. The writers made Jack Dawson perfect so that his death would hit us as hard as it hit Rose.
You say Jack was handsome enough to inspire crushes on any preteen girls who watched the movie when it came out...
Girl, I was 5 when it came out and I was determined to marry Jack Dawson when I grew up.
😂😂😂😂
You are not the only preschool who fell in love with Jack
Same. Watching Titanic at the age was the first time I ever experienced 'those sort' of feelings
I was little older than, around 12 years old when I got a crush on Jack. Now I'm 18, with a crush on someone else.
Same! I was also 5 years old when this movie came out. I was absolutelt crushed. My first crush and first heartbreak 😂 seriously though, there was no comforting me, I cried myself to sleep..
Jack had to die because a story about a historical tragedy having a happy, sweet ending is morally wrong.
honestly.very logical response.
rachie but even if he survived the ending wouldn’t be sweet because of all the other people that didn’t make
@@datboisus3981 But we wouldn't be focusing on anyone except Jack and Rose.
THIS!!!
No, Jack living wouldn't make the story morally wrong... it would make the event historically inaccurate. Besides the tragic love story tugging at the heartstrings the complete inexperience of the crew created a LOT of widows. Husbands, male lovers, fathers... men and boys died more so than women and girls. For both to live would be perfection but inaccurate. For both to die would actually have been accurate though there would be nobody to tell the story. To have Jack live and Rose die would be seen as selfish on Jack's part. For Rose to live would show the metaphor of the men sacrificing themselves to save the women they loved. Though I'm sure it did happen that men made it onto the boats, with the hopes that their wives and kids got onto another but that didn't happen would be true too.
I love how he says to rose “your going to die an old lady warm in your bed not here” and she actually does die an old lady in her bed 🥺
omg that was my last big cry of the movie
@@alex-lr9zd I didn't even cry in that movie lol
@@milfslayer6984 HOW I WAS BAWLING THE WHOLE TIME
@@alex-lr9zd I wasn't even sad actually
@@milfslayer6984 i don’t believe that you are a human
Can we just appreciate rose's delivery of "he put a pistol in his mouth"? Savage
@@PennyMsElite ?
That line was cut a bit and the full line shows that not only did cal not learn any lessons but his shallow values about money were passed on to his kids, here is the unabridged line
"He married of course and inherited his millions, but the crash of 29 hit his interests hard and he put a pistol in his mouth that year, his heirs fought over the remains of his estate like hyenas, or so I read.
Cal was such an asshole! This is what Rose's mom Was pimping her out to! Jack saved Rose's life multiple times in just three days. Saved her from jumping in the beginning, from hypothermia and drowning in the end and from pimp mom and asshole Cal!
Incidentally Rose risked her life to save Jack so they could be together just a few more hours. The story was intense!
@@ryanr20091he should have just told him straight up…despite the fact her mother was pushing her hard to marry him, so that the family could have resources? How does that work
How about Cal could have backed off, once he realised she wasn’t interested
Homesty: when Jack died I... didn't really flinch, but the scene with that mother singing her kids to sleep knowing they were going to die... breaks me
AD Queen me too.
absolutely
And the scene of the old couple
Dude same! I didn't really even cry when Jack died, but I sobbed when those little kids were screaming and crying while the ship flooded. And dude that mom singing her kids to sleep, it also breaks me.
@Lena Moore SAME
Jack Dawson.
If any woman gets loved the way he loved Rose, you are truly blessed.
And vice versa if a man gets loved that way, he's a lucky man.
George Daugherty Rose didn’t love Jack. He was just an exciting fling from her boring life
Tora Chan Oooh that's trollish! :p
i do love a women like jack dawson loves rose, i truly do, hopefully someday she will know how much she means to me
her name is Fatima
TJae Speaks, THAT’S FACTS!
The entire movie is about a historical tragedy. Giving the movie a sad ending would make the viewers understand the real causes of the shipwreck. But keeping him alive would be as if the shipwreck wasn’t relevant to the plot at all.
No plotarmor in this masterpiece.
Jack and Rose having a happy ending by surviving the Titanic would've romanticized the tragedy.
THISSSSS IS THE REAL REASON. THISSSSS.
It’s already romantised
I don't get it..
@@calmcalm6203 Romanticising means to take something (like an event) and make it look better than how it actually was, or look like something that you want to go through.
Basically it means if Jack had survived, the movie would end up just looking like a romantic adventure film, which would be very distasteful to the families of those who died in the Titanic's sinking or had survived (but probably would've been very traumatised because of the sinking itself and losing loved ones)
The 2 animated Titanic movies did that. In fact one of them didn't have anyone die. Offensive!
His drawing of her is physical evidence that he existed, tho.
But the pic got torn up
@@wmitch1983 no, it didn't
They literally recover it 84 years later, definitely not torn up
Maybe there is another Jack Dawson? And that Jack Dawson was just a con artist posing as the real Jack Dawson, very good
@Maria Blente He wrinkled the note, not the drawing.
so the real iceberg...was depression.
Ahahaha
And the real treasure was the sexy life coach she did along the way.
The real iceberg was the friends we made along the way
I know this is probably just a joke but remember that the Titanic was a real ship that did sink cuz a iceberg
@@personontheinternett7218 it sank because of arrogance and an iceberg
" if your ship is going down .. what does it matter what class you're going to die in"
That's such a profound statement about the eternity of death
Even though Jack and Rose is just a fictional character I still believe that their story will represent that there's anyone on that ship that could possibly be a Jack and Rose in real life to each other and promised that they will never let go even they are on the verge of dying and giving each other the power of will to live.
I was thinking that
A lot of people tend to forget that after rose gets on the door jack then tries to climb on as well and the door flips over knocking rose back in the water. He didn’t want to try again risking her to fall in again.
What when he pushed some dead body's under the door? I like this movie, but it is to sad to love it...
Kelsey Eilish it’s a film get over it😂 it’s wouldn’t have had the same impact on viewers if he survived. The titanic was a tragic event, this was also portrayed through jack
Kelsey Eilish I don’t need calming down haha, was literally just saying the movie wouldn’t have had the huge impact it did if jack survived. End of discussion thank u
That's symbolic of sacrifice. If you love someone, you will die for them. Also them being on a door is a symbol. Jack opened the door for rose and she walked through to freedom.
@@jaysmith3448 That would be a lovely metaphor and interpretation (as an English major, I honestly like it a lot), but it's not actually a door she's on
No matter how many times I watch it, I always hope the ship won't hit the iceberg 😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
TemaOfficial if the titanic never sank, this story would've never existed
The lucky One321 but it’s not like we would miss it because you can’t miss something that doesn’t exist
Same and I’ve seen this movie dozens of times. I’m always like FUCK THEY HIT IT!! FUCK FUCK FUCK
TemaOfficial same
Imagine if one time it doesn't 😳
"What's your name?"
"Rose...
Rose Skywalker."
Rise of Skywalker reference lol
@@thatoneturtle7737
more like Rose of Skywalker
Lol
Had me in the first 2/3rds, not gonna lie.
BAHAHAHAHA
"The point is that Jack has a subtle air of unreality to him"
Excellent!
What I liked a lot was that she went and lived her life after to jack died. She didn’t spend the rest of her life mourning him, she went and lived. Just like he told her to
Exactly!
Yup.. she didn’t mourn him, she honored him by honoring the promise she gave him
I never got it. But then again, my grandma lost my granddad when she was 26, and she never laid her eyes on another man since.
A lot of murderers do this.
I shed a tear when I saw the picture of her riding a horse like a man, like Jack told her they would do that together.
“the story has no more use for him” god damn can you let me down easier next time
that escalated quickly 😂
Put it simply: Jack was a tool for storytelling. 🤔
LET ME DOWN EASIER AHHHHHHH
@@juliannasummerallstories399 😂
Yes
rose is so unbelievebly strong! after jake died she didn't hesitate to live a full life like he told her to instead of feeling sad because she lost the love of her life. I think I would've stayed with jack in the water and died with him
It was a little much for her to compare herself to slaves on the triangle trade.
Jack was stronger.
The story is perfect the way it is. I loved at the end how Rose died in the same place where Jack died, as an old lady and warm in her bed too, like Jack said she would. Then we get a little visual of heaven, where Titanic becomes alive again and Jack and Rose reunite. It’s beautifully done.
skandarkeynes _ skandarians Ignoring the fact that she had another life with another man she promised her life’s too. But heaven is with Jack. I guess this is where death do us apart comes into play hahaha
SHE DIED THERE omg u made me cry all over again😂
skandarkeynes _ skandarians I don’t understand why she dedicates herself to him. She must have fell in love again because we learn she has 2 children
Elernation People can have 2 children without being in love
Yes! So if you think about it, it’s a somewhat happy ending, because she gets to live eternity with Jack.
Jack was Rose’s escape from a life she hated. He helped her find her backbone.
Totally
She hated her life and he was an escape but she treated him as such cause she showed no real logic, grit or backbone in defending him. Only when they had to fight to survive did she have enough backbone to protect him. She couldn't defend his honor and keep him out of harms way. But she lived her life and thats all that matters im sure.
And the video says that once his purpose is fuffiled in rose's life, he's gone. So this whole movie minus her narrating as an old woman is all about HER. What about his story? what about his life?
@@60wwediva she most likely didn't know his whole life story, and she's not giving her life story. She's explaining her story on the Titanic. She rescued him and freed him from chains and he did the same for her. She kept his honor and lived and died the way he wanted her too. Did you even watch the movie?
Nailed It😮
JACK represents all the good men who sacrificed themselves & waived goodbye to their wives & children💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
ROSE represents all the strong women who survived & rebuilt their life after the tragedy..♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
The Take: Jack's purpose is to make Rose find her will to live
Me who has crippling depression: *I THINK I NEED A JACK IN MY LIFE BECAUSE. . . WHAT IS WILL TO LIVE???*
a moment of silence
Appreciation.... To be able to spit as far as you can , to stretch out your arms at the helm of a boat, the air in your lungs, meeting fine people, art, food, dressing up, the ability to run around and be silly, the memories of happy past moments.... are just a few of the things worth living for......I hope I helped a little......Jack.❤
Iodine Cerium. Please read my post above this
😂😂😂 SAME!
@@asura--- 😂😂
Jack also in my opinion was more than Roses voice. He was the embodiment of all who died that night. Jacks will to live was sooo strong he fought with everything he had to survive which made his death all that bitter. Amd to me its a symbol of the struggle of those who did not survive. That we may never forget the unfortunate who fought hard to live but still lost their lives.
I was thinking the same thing, to me Jack isn't just a character his an allegory.
This is so true, the dad reality of the titanic is that some (Rose and the other first class passengers like Cal, her mother, etc) survived but many (Jack) died, it wouldn’t have been realistic for them to both live honestly
Exactly. It would've almost felt disrespectful to those who actually died that night to give Jack and Rose a happily ever after ending.
It would've cheapened the tragic aspect of the whole story.
😮👏👏👏
So Leonardo DiCaprio really is an angel sent from above to save us all. I knew it.
Rebecca Nelson he only saves people until they turn 25
He’s a real life angel no cap
@@jasik.8611 but he saved samantha in sex and the city once.
Tejaswini Dewangan I’m talking about real life, but it’s just a joke😂
Rose: It's not up to you to save me, Jack.
Jack: You're right. Only YOU can do that.
THIS philosophy needs to be taught in every school on the planet. YOU are the maker of your destiny.
The take: “Rose is the hero”
Me:how tf is she the hero?
The take: “and jack is just a sexy life coach”
Me:mkay I mean thats kinda fair😅
Are u gotta sweeping on ps4
“Committing to being alive , means committing to living as ones authentic self “ Story of my life ✨
Dying is easy, living is harder.
The truth.
Jack had to die to make us cry, well that rhymes
My friends and I are REALLY BIG fans of titanic and we always argue about why jack had to die. Next time, we argue about it, I’ll say this
Beautiful. Magnificent. Awesome U R Special ,he died be cause he was very cold what kinda question is that
It wasn't even remotely sad
I wasn't even sad
I think the significance of that last scene where Rose reunites with Jack in a white dress means that Rose has passed on after giving the necklace to the sea. That scene always pulls at my heart strings. One of the most devastating things that I think you could live through is your significant other passing. I told my husband that even though I’m 13 years younger than him I’ve called Debs on dying first. LOL but seriously I can’t help but burst into tears every time I think of him passing before me..
The movie without the credits and modern titanic clips runs a total of 2 hours 40 minutes, the amount of time it took for the titanic to sink.
Wow, that is crazy to think it took only 2 hours and 40 minutes to sink, so. Dry very sad.
Great video. You mention that Jack has the feeling of unreality about him, like he's a little too good to be true. There's a pretty good explanation for this... And it comes down to the fact that the elderly Rose is the one telling the story. It's entirely possible that she's the typical unreliable narrator - exaggerating the facts to make Jack even better or even moreso, she remembers things differently after a lifetime of recollection..
"He lives now, only in my memories" and memory, is fallable.
Again, yes! And again, a little-made point! :)
Yes absolutely correct. Not to mention she literally only knew him for a few days so they were still in their intial "honey-moon" phase of love where you dont notice the bad things about your partner.
Kind of like the 1997 Lolita movie, I first watched it and was shocked that I felt sorry for the guy ( I even cried at the end lol) and I really didn't like Lo, till I read that the story is told from his point of view and it made so much more sense.
Cynic.
Exaaactly... people forget it is not a real story.. it is a story told by Rose..her version of what happened.. her version of right and wrong, good and bad.
Ah, one of my favorite movies. As much as I would've loved for Rose and Jack to get the traditional/cliche "happily ever after," the movie wouldn't have held the same dramatic and iconic weight that it holds in pop culture: Every time I ask someone what they remember about this movie, the answer's always, "Jack dies" and it took me a while to accept that, in the narrative, he HAS to: As you said, he teaches her the will to live and not just to live, but to live through joy AND sorrow, which is why is she able to go on years later after he's gone, unlike in the beginning where she's going to jump: She doesn't feel helpless and through her journey with Jack, she discovers that she's far from it. If anything, I see this film as the living embodiment of the saying, "Sometimes we need others to see the thing inside that we can't see ourselves," because that's what Jack sees in Rose: Fire and life and passion and will. She just needed to see it too. (:
Well said
Wow.. what a remarkable thought
MY FAVOURITE MOVIE
Indeed, as sad as the ending was, it made it all the more romantic that Jack sacrificed himself for Rose, so I can totally understand why they wrote it that way.
That was very mean what Miss mojo said the story has no more use for Jack like are you kidding me his death was the most horrible thing ever I know everybody else died on the boat but jack dying that was so sad
If they hadn’t made the movie “titanic” I wouldn’t have known who Leonardo DiCaprio is. Lmfao
Same
I knew who he was before Titanic I had seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Growing Pains?
This explanation made me appreciate the story, which I always thought was cliché.
He DID try to get on the door and it immediately buckled! Am I the only one who remembers?! Also amazing video and I always look forward to your analysis.
Exactly, even if they had both managed to get on, there was water literally flowing over the door and they both would have died thru hypothermia.
aakksshhaayy Right?? He clearly tried to get on and couldn’t without the door sinking.
Your all right, but the debate comes from should it have, would it have happened in real life.
They tried once LOL
omg righttttt? I have been saying this to everyone with the "door theory" for years, u literally see him trying in the scene lol
"I want you to draw me like one of your French girls."
Epic meme
Q from trek
D VDV I CaNt rOlL iN pEiCe
First the emotional flute song, and now french girls-
“Draw me like one of your French. g h o r l s
-gru
"Those two had only each other."-Joey Tribbiani.
Love it!🤣
When I started to break down was when she told that one guy that her name was Rose Dawson, meaning that she put jacks last name as hers, I don’t know why but when she gave that guy her name with jacks last name I was sobbing
James Cameron is one of the only few male directors out there who generally makes his female characters way more compelling than his male characters. I just get a sense he's so much more interested in their plight rather than guys. Even the two villains in Titanic. Rose's mother and her fiance. One is a one dimensional, over the top scumbag and the other is cruel but has a sympathetic backstory that drives why she is the way she is.
Mostly, except for Terminator
Yes. He's a true feminist, in that he will dump Linda Hamilton for a younger model
You can fight for women's right and still treat some particullar woman like trash. Being a feminist is not an alpha and omega of morality.
That doesn't make it good. If you are a top storyteller all your characters should be well developped. But I thought in the Abyss both the male and female lead husband and wife characters were equally strong.
Good point
If he just didn’t win the poker game.
And he wouldn’t have saved her
Julimar Martinez he wouldn’t be dead himself though
UNO Sheem true!!😳😳 omg
yeah but then he wouldnt have met rose and he was the reason she survived because he gave her strength and when she saw him dead she ws willing to die to be with him but then she remembered the promise that she made him that she would survive and die an old old lady warm in her bed and she did and when they reunited the clock behind jack it read 2:20 am wich is the exact time the titanic compelety sank
@iyanna just the facts
Think about it, if jack was not there
Rose would be dead.
Also funny thing, “Jack” was my celebrity crush when I was five.
She would have still been alive. She would have climbed on that boat with her mum and married
Caledon Hockley not knowing Jack was even alive.
@Arlie Satchitananda ૐ or not, when jack found her she was hesitant.. She probably wouldn't have really did it
@Arlie Satchitananda ૐ hahaha yeah, not so good
@@sarojadreyer8630 Actually, at the beginning of the movie, he saved her from a suicide attempt ... so there wouldn't have been an old Rose without a Jack.
That Freud comeback to Ismay was so iconic! Such a well-educated way to take a man down a peg without him even knowing. I loved that scene 😂
It was completely uncalled for. He was praising the work his company did in building the ship and she decided out of nowhere by implying he had a small penis. That was just shitty behaviour.
I think we all know deep down that Jack had to die. In a sense, he represented the ship's downfall as well as everyone else who passed away that night. It makes the movie so much more emotional, so much more tragic, that he died. Of course, that doesn't stop us from trying to evaluate why he couldn't have lived. For many of us, our hearts yearn to find a way he could've possibly lived - and that was the exactly intended emotion. Cameron wanted us to develop such an emotional attachment to his character that we would grieve strongly for him following his death. He just did such an incredible job with it, we're still crying for Jack to live, and we're still battling with our heavy emotions on the issue years later.
But can we honestly say that Titanic would still draw the same extensive heartfelt, bittersweet emotions from its audiences; would Jack even be as captivating, knowing he would still be alive by the end of the film? I think the fact he is taken away from us makes the story so much more memorable; his death therefore makes him as well as the film so much more beautiful, more alluring, and more incandescent - and that's excluding the fact alone that he is played by Leonardo DiCaprio, who only adds to his undeniable charm ;)
So that's why Jack ultimately had to die. The movie simply wouldn't be nearly as meaningful or even enjoyable, really, if he hadn't. As much as my heart aches that he died, and that I can't envision an entire life of Jack and Rose raising their adorable children together, it makes me flat-out adore the story even more. The emotional elements within Titanic are so much more than merely love alone. It has pain, desire, fear, doubt, hopelessness, hopefulness, anger, frustration, wistfulness, longing... which only strengthen the depth of love present in the movie. All these emotional elements combined is what truly makes for a successful, beloved, timeless, and memorable film
eh. find a way he could have possibly lived? he could have lived by sticking to logic and not putting himself in dangerous situations in the midst of rose's beef with her fiance. he could have put himself first at least 3 times. idk why everyone is acting like jack was doomed with no way out. love killed him purely and simply
I agree, that it's about the emotional impact and the narrative. But I also think it's about allowing the tragedy to...'breathe,' so to speak. As in... Giving you tragedy, with a backdrop of better things, so you can process the tragedy within the larger framework of a happier or different life.
And your brush with Jack's symbolism as a character is really spot on. What's fascinating is that you get into meta commentary with the thought that Jack's downfall parallels the 'downfall of the ship,' so to speak. It's a topic that's been debated a lot, and a lot of conclusions have been drawn between a ship's maiden voyage - Rose feeling trapped on said ship and coming out stronger for it, and the ways the two stories can parallel reach other, inversely, or side by side (depending on how you look at the whole story.) But a majority of commentators agree that Rose and the Titanic's stories parallel each other in a lot of ways. Just as the modern consensus seems to agree (largely) that Rose losing her virginity is not only a metaphor but an allegory of a lot of other things (virginity as a change of a woman's state of being, Rose as a maiden and the Titanic as one are the same until the point of the iceberg when Rose's recent sexual experience gives her New wisdom, the idea that the Titanic never finished Her maiden voyage while Rose did as reasoning for her surviving, and so on) the majority of people agree that Jack's death is a tragedy, but one within a much larger framework, whether it's the metaphor of him being a third class passenger, or (in this argument) a plot device allowing Rose's own self realization, Jack's death rides on a lot of other factors, and virtually any objective way to look at the narrative agrees, Jack's dying was the right narrative choice for Cameron as the writer, and Titanic as a story.
DiCaprio should read this :p
You wrote a lot for a TH-cam comment
can't we all realize if rose got on the dang safe boat, he easily could've lived by going on the door in the water, and gotten saved. yes for the storyline he had to die, but he didn't really HAVE to. rose wasted a lot of time, aswell. rose really is- well.... stubborn. she cant just get on a safe boat. that would have worked out well. IF SHE GOT ON THE BOAT.
because it's better to leave your audience sad and longing so they will keep discussing about the ending.
RetiredChild you got it!!!
Because to have everyone always survive and live happily ever after in stories gives us heart candy, but it doesn't give us insight into our fellow man in terms of how life REALLY impacts us, and what it REALLY does to us emotionally, what we REALLY go through, and the scars and treasures and traumas and regrets and heartaches we REALLY have to cope with. Heart candy doesn't connect us in the way something like this does. And at the end of it, that connection is more what we're REALLY looking for when we tell stories.
Exactly. Feel good happy endings simply aren't always reality, so the movie ends up cheesy and stupid if it ended this way.
“And SPIT like a man”. LMAOOO I can’t 🤣💀
Jack and rose represented peoples of TITANIC..
Jack represented people who lost their life and rose represented people who lost their loved one on sinking of TITANIC
I only just noticed when Jack tells Rose her fire will go out if she stays as she is, and also when she asks him to draw her, she's wearing a butterfly, a symbol of emergence and change, in her hair. Well done, Deborah Lynn Scott.
Well put. Thank you soo much for enlightening me!
I like that we actually see her wear it as opposed to seeing one time early on and never again.
I really enjoyed this breakdown and 100% agree with the thematic use of Jack as a character. Iv been meaning to rewatch this for ages and this really got me excited about it again and also helped me see it differently! Great job!
Me too. From the earliest moment this movie came out in late 97' it made you wondering why Jack had to die and if there was any way that the *decision* could have been made for him to survive. Going as far as imagining different story plots and endings of your own to make sense of it. I always had an idea nevertheless that James Cameron wanted the tragic story of Titanic to be told and not some happy ending Romeo & Julia kind of story.
In that regard it made sense because Jack's death made the sinking of the Titanic so much worse. Bawling your eyes out etc. But with this *explanation* by Screenprism it all falls into place even more. You're totally looking different at it now. James Cameron was way ahead of its time, proving once again.
The thing about that is... like he had interactions with other characters in the movie, and People had interactions with him.
He drew that picture, and it was proven that he drew it when it was all over the news.
It’s not like the picture just came out of nowhere.
That’s the only problem with it.
Had she not met jack (and not jumped off the stern, which Jack called her out that she wouldn't have), wouldn't she have not been in the floating door situation? I mean.. not criticizing the story at all because I love the movie... but realistically, this romance probably caused Jack's death, and the death of Lovejoy, and likely Fabrizio... because if they had not met she would have been on a lifeboat, and Cal and Lovejoy would have made the arrangement with First Officer Murdoch, and Jack, being survival-oriented, would have figured out a way for him and his friend to escape and survive the disaster... Furthermore, the two security guards in the mail-hold wouldn't have died at the time of impact because they wouldn't have been in there searching for those two when it flooded!
People always ask me what I think happens when you die. I'm 99.9% sure I'll go to heaven, walk up some stairs and kiss Leonardo DiCaprio.
YES
Oh my gosh I’m dead🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
this makes me cry, jack would have been such an amazing supportive person. telling her to promise she would live
SAW THE TITLE AND LITERALLY SCREAMED😭😭😭
I fanboyed too:p
Same Loooool
@Bobo Boy 😂😂😂i said the same thing
lol
I have been in the "Jack is imaginary" camp for quite some time, not because I think Rose lied about having some love affair on the Titanic. But because Jack is an amalgamation of everyone who lost their lives on the Titanic, perhaps that's why Jack seems so perfect. His not just a person, his a symbol for the oppressed and marginalized, ,for everyone who lost their lives too soon.
neosoontoretro :-O I’ve never heard this theory before!
Don’t believe that but good theory
But the drawing?
If that pic is really you, you're absolutely stunning. Why don't you have any vids or instagram? You could be a model.
But the drawing was still there so how is does he not exist, he drew it and it wasn't found my rose but by other people who didn't even know he existed
Ah - I remember when I saw Titanic in theaters. December 1997. I was a sophomore in college and it was the fastest 3 hours of my life. When Jack died, I was in such shock, I couldn't cry. I was frozen stiff in my chair because it was the first time I saw a movie in which the director had the guts to kill one of the main characters. Years later, I bought a book about screenwriting before I wrote my first script and in 1 of the chapters, there were 1-line descriptions of famous movies. "Titanic is Romeo and Juliet on a ship liner." So - yes - Jack had to die. Looking back all these years, It makes sense Jack died - he held a third-class ticket.
I'm still frustrated that this character had to die. It's been bugging me for 20 years. Jack slipping away into the darkness of the water gets me every time. Ah well....at least the scene where Rose drops the necklace back into the ocean makes perfect sense (with Jack being down there and all).
still classic after all these years!
Hi
The door started off as a joke , but some people took it way to serious lol.
What? Is was easy to survive for both...
When jack pushed bodys under the door...
James Cameron hit the nail on the head when he said that he should have used a smaller piece of wreckage.
In the very end, it is my understanding that old Rose also dies in her sleep!...At least from the way the camera is showing her lying in her bed, and zooming in on her pictures, from when she was younger, living in New York, riding a horse, and working as an actress!
Rose was lucky enough herself to survive. She may have only lasted a few more minutes herself after succoming to intense hypothermia. Just look how barely that piece of wood paneling stayed above the water with just Rose on it. With the both of it they'd both be laying in the freezing North Atlantic ocean.
Say what you want about James Cameron, but he does know how to write strong, female characters.
Well, look who he married: Gale Ann Herd, one of the greatest producers in history.
rose isn't a strong female character at all if her story arc needed a man to freeze to death just to make her "live".
if she was strong and resourceful, jack would have been alive.
You don't understand her character development, clearly. She's strong because she rejected everything that was deemed "respectable" and "successful" in the world she was raised in.
An Morein
actually, most people are quick to ignore her character flaws for the sake of feminism in cinema.
she's not even a good example for a strong feminist. everything was thrown at her feet. though her mother was horrible, she did try to find her a "good match". even when the boat was sinking, both jack and cal convinced her to go into one of the lifeboats, yet what did she do? she jumped into the water to be with jack. FFS, if she had only stayed in the darn lifeboat, jack could have had the door to himself and not have to die for her. it was even so pointless of her to go into the water, as she had no intention of actually saving jack, she just wanted to be near him. in the end, she made herself a damsel that needed to be saved by her man, who had to die in the process when she was already SAFE in the lifeboat to begin with.
also, it's so unrealistic that, man or woman, the one who survives doesn't even live with the guilt of having the other die for them. she was fondly remembering how jack's ass froze in the friggin ocean.
i fail to understand why everybody is calling rose a "strong" character. what exactly did she do that was so brave and heroic? saying no to her mom and cal? that's pathetic.
meanwhile, the poor guy who literally dies in the story is a "mere prop" for her to realize that she should live. FFS...
Maggy Frog Yeah, duh. Characters are supposed to have flaws. You’re completely ignoring the inner conflict of Rose’s character and the time period the film is set in. It was expected for women to obey their husbands, and not only that, Rose had the obligation of basically selling herself to this man so her family (mother) could survive. She rejects everything that’s considered as success in her life to go with someone who is deemed the “scum” of society. Perhaps stop watching superhero movies. Your expectations for the development of these characters are ridiculous.
Also because it wasn’t a space issue, it was a weight issue. He tried to get on the door and it wouldn’t hold both of them.
That makes more sense. It's just hard to tell from the 2 sec clip of them both trying to get on.
It's not that hard! It's logic...
That’s why people in the video were commenting about the life jackets. The idea is, if they’d stuffed one under the door, it would have added enough buoyancy to support both their weight
When you're in water that cold you go unconscious within 30 min. It's incredible they even thought to swim to the door in the first place, let alone trying to grab random life jackets off people to buoy the door up.
nah, it really was a plot hole issue. a door that size could have saved the both of them with a little bit of resourcefulness.
no amount of romance or drama could convince me that it's a good idea to throw logic under the bus so that the hero dies trying to save the damsel in distress when they could have lived together and that still would have been romantic and dramatic all the same.
as far as the character arcs go, i don't buy that rose would really let jack die like that. that moment could have been her ultimate character growth by being a bit more resourceful instead of idiotically saying, "i won't let go jack" and then lets the poor guy freeze and sink to the abyss. i also don't buy that she was utterly happy and absolutely fulfilled in her new life knowing she let her great love die for her. that's too much BS imho.
james cameron could have at least made her have that one great regret in her life while still trying to live large. instead, it's like she remembers jack dying quite fondly. i just don't like how it ended. in real life, if your great love dies for you like that, freezing to death and you letting that person go to sink in the bottom of the ocean, that's gonna leave you with survivor's guilt for sure, not a "happy ending".
I was tearing up in Jack's death
And I am still tearing up :(
rose wanted to die
jack wanted to live
rose lived for jack
jack died for rose-
im not crying u r
Basically if the art department just made it smaller we would not have the debacle
I came to the comments specifically to say this.
I mean, visually, it does look big enough for two people. They done effed up. Haha.
Yeah. Damn the art and props department! Haha
Yes. Damn that prop department making the door historically correct.
its still symbolic. titanic was big enough to fit enough lifeboats for everyone. its SUPPOSED to cause frustration
Great analysis! I have to shake my head at all the people who even now seem to think that Titanic is Jack's story, when Cameron showed with every image, allegory, and event in the script that it was Rose's journey, start to finish. Indeed, folks, sometimes the hero wears a dress.
Jack feels like a guardian angel or a fairy godboyfriend who turns up just when Rose needed him the most. I guess that's why he had to die.
“Jack is like a new sexy life coach” can I get a new sexy life coach rn?
Hey babes. Let's do some squats!
If jack didn’t exist then who drew Rose naked? 👀🤦🏾♀️
Mozzarella • then maybe it wasn’t her 👀
she drew herself. lol
@@Mpelladaki88 it says jack dawson on the paper lol
Her mother
@@amr_12_ lol
Jack will always live *points at chest* in here.
@Lieve Rekers BAHAHAHAH no in our hearts you made me laugh too hard😂
Lieve Rekers 😂😂😂😂😂
Titanic helped me find out what life is about! And when i watched Titanic.. I saw the real me! I saw that I can be free! And that i need to move on from my dad's death..! Its hard.. But i always know that my dad is in my heart.. Just like jack is in rose's.. So titanic really showed me how to live a great life.
Did you know that Jack was actually not dead when Rose let him go, it was proven that Jack was in Stage 3 of hypothermia, which means he was only unconscious...
i need a link or proof right now
He would die anyway. They waited for Carpathia for hours in the cold.
Hes literally dead it says he died in the script so no, he’s dead when she drops him
No, please. Don't give me hope.
@Henry Lewis How the hell was she supposed to pull him up? Just stop.
Here’s my take on it:
At first I was very sad that Jack was dead and that he didn’t have to die. But I’ve realized it makes since that he did. Of course there were ways that he could survive. But it is for the best. The titanic was a tragedy and we all knew the boat was going to sink in the movie, but they couldn’t end the movie with it working out for Jack or Rose or for any of the other characters. And let’s face it, this movie wouldn’t be as good and emotional if he had survived. Directors and writers like to make people emotional, and I for sure cried after and that proves that it was a great movie.
If the Jack and Rose part of this story was real, I know they would be living together forever after she dies.
But the number one thing that bugged me is that Rose probably had multiple kids, most likely a boy, yet she didn’t name her son Jack I’m guessing!!!!
yea I get that last part too but she also took his last name which is a lot stronger than a child name to me that will go on from generation to generation
at least they re-united. Best bit by far. But wouldnt it be weird she name her kid jack? Like she was practically dating him innit.
My problem was never about why Jack had to die but the fact that Rose threw the necklace in the sea. I know it was a symbolic move but what about all those people working to find it?
sivula17 they found out they were exploiting the disaster rather than truly understanding the tragedy.
I need a video analysis on this subject!!!!!
+Sirama
Could have donated it to charity. How many people could have been saved?
@@MADEbySOUL I think these are pretty strong words you're using. The crew of the ship was hired to retrieve the necklace, you make it sound like the had to walk on dead bodies and steal them. It was just their job and Rose made sure no-one would ever get it. And if she didn't want the crew to get it she could donate it and let be a symbol of love not only to her but also from her to others. But nooooooo
You should watch the alternative ending, it's worse
I still think Jack could have lived and I'll never let it go
if jack lived then people wouldn’t understand what those people actually went through. the sinking of the titanic was a tragic way to pass, but you still have to understand in real life no one on that boat survive with there loved ones. it’s only fair they show how those people felt.
A major theme of the movie was moving on from death of those you care about. Jack dying significantly helped that narrative.
Yes
I agree with you!
I think by the time they hit the water and swam to the surface they were done physically and psychologically, they were running on so much adrenaline up till that point Jack physically could not attempt again trying to get on the door since it buckled the first time he tried. (remember prior all they went through, getting him out of the handcuffs, finding a way onto the deck, running to escape getting shot at by Cal, making sure not to fall wile the ship started capsizing etc.) Plus Jack says earlier in the movie he fell into ice water before and you can't think anymore except for how cold the water is. He lost all 'level' headed thinking, his body/mind was done by then :T I realized this after re-watching the movie as an adult after having watched it in theater as a child.
What I think is if both Jack and Rose survived, the audience would have left the movie theatre being happy as the main characters were safe. But since Titanic was a disaster, a tragedy, the movie makers would have wanted the audience to feel the loss of a loved one. Probably that's why they make us grow so close to Jack.
Jack represented the people who died and Rose represented the people who lived after the tragedy
I would disagree. For instance, there were numerous moments in the movie that had made me on edge with my emotions and feelings already, including the sight of Rose and Jack at the front of the ship and singing: _"come Josephine in my flying machine"_ ...saving Jack from his hand cuffs down at the Master-At-Arms and when Rose says goodbye to Jack and jumps right back on the ship to be with him: _"you jump, I jump"_ etc.
The Bottom-line is, that the movie, the whole narrative and music was hitting you in the feels already everywhere where you were going. Even when Rose was ready to give up when she and Jack were in the water, both shaking and trying to instill hope and strength in this dire situation that they they were in.
Add on top the loss of the majesty of the RMS Titanic and all the other innocent passengers who we had seen dying, including Fabrizio, Tommy Ryan, Helga and Cora and their respective families, in addition to Thomas Andrews, Captain Smith, Murdoch and Trudy, Rose's maid, I would have not left the theater happy at all. It would still have been a very emotional experience.
The reason why Cameron made the audience grow so close to Jack, I think, was because there had to be this lead device for Rose to complete her transformation. And the only way was through some additional main character. Hence, Jack had to be a gentleman and someone who would treat Rose as an equal. But to do so, meant that he had to have many nice attributes and qualities, in addition to showing a willingness to survive and showing a sign of strength. And Jack's character fully did that, but a bit too much.
Meaning, the issue would end up becoming about Jack and that he had almost reached the level of being immortal and a superhero etc. ... e.g. the way how he carried himself throughout the movie. Ranging from almost getting his hands chopped off to almost drowning behind a locked gate. Cameron purely did this from a "blockbuster" point of view and wanting a spectacle. Not on the basis of bearing relevance and resemblance to reality. There isn't a problem with that, but it does make it conflicting when you let him suddenly die, knowing he could have made it.
@@litlifes3278 The other passengers we did see ending up dying, like Fabrizio, Tommy and Thomas Andrews, were already representing the people who died. Whilst Rose got to represent one of a sole female heroine.
I thought that the point of Jack dying at the end was to show that he was chivalrous, he gave his live to save Rose.
I think so too.
Agreed, and representative of hundreds of men on the ship.
Once again phenomenal breakdown! 👏🏽bravo! Y’all hit it right on the mark, it was never about the door.....it was bout the growth of Rose Dawson👏🏽👏🏽 great job ladies as always!!! One of the greatest films of all time. Such a classic!
It is true that the movie Titanic, because it came out in 97', was able to perfectly serve the temporary embodiment of female *empowerment* at that time. Just around the turn of the Millennium. From what I have seen in my life so far, it is quite obvious that the work of James Cameron has touched the lives of many women around the world with this great movie.
😐 I just realized Cal took a seat that could’ve been given to a child, just to kill himself 😒
Jack’s purpose in this life was to save another person. It’s the greatest purpose you could ever ask for 🙏
Rose: *ill never let go*
Rose 2 seconds later: *lets go of jack letting him into the depths of the ocean*
Yeah, can't be trusted an inch, that woman! Seriously though, wonderful nod to life's often cruel ironies that in order to not let go, she had to let go. VERY insightful.
catherinespark huh
Rose means she will never let go of the promise she made to jack; to survive
Do you believe there is only one possible meaning of "I'll never let go?"
10,000 subs no videos? UGH! For the love of god what did you expect from rose? To put his dead body on the life boat? She said she’ll never let go of the wonderful moments they had on the titanic and took his final words and did what she did in life until she died when the they reunited on the Titanic in heaven and lived happily ever after!
“The story has no more use for him”-said the narrator
Me- OH HELL NO
ikr, 1) who doesnt want a sexy life coach all their life? 2) they later contradict themselves saying rose becomes dawson so she never loses him
Me and my sister watched this for the first time in 2018 during summer at like 2 AM while eating pizza and we both cried when Jack died
is anyone else watching this to stop them crying about jacks death? 😂🥺🥺🥺
YES,I AM
I don't know why but this video gave me more closure about my breakup than anything else. My boyfriend had Jack's character and what separated us wasn't death, but how frustrated he became with my actions in regard to not changing a bad situation I was in. I learned a lesson through my ex and I'm grateful for that :).
If the captain didn’t ignore iceberg warnings and go over speed jack and rose could have gone to America together
"We couldn't find anything on Jack" well of course you didn't how would you? It was the 1900's they don't keep records of people back then. All he had was a ticket that's it. No passports no paperwork.
@asjkiea12 right! I forgot it wasn’t his.
Umm yes they did keep records, it was 1910's not middle ages. All passangers were listed.
Thank you this was very helpful and informative 👍👍
Great video and analysis. When people fixate on the door thing it's as if we're not conscious of the fact that it's a work of fiction and that detail serves the purposes of the story. Obviously, it's sad that he dies. But rewatching the film as an adult made it more apparent to me that as heroic as Jack Dawson was in the film, his purpose was primarily to serve Rose's character arc (so yes, definitely an example of the "Manic pixie dream boy"!). If he had lived, it would have been a happy ending... but I think Rose still got a happy ending.
Torin McCabe Are you fucking kidding me? :v
@@torinmccabe wtf? The fact that he's a man has nothing to do with it 😂, anyone is heroic for sacrificing their life for another.
@@torinmccabe it's a semi-accurate depiction of the time period (I've heard that the "women and children first" rule actually wasn't practiced in real life, though I'm not sure.) Unfortunately, women's life were treated as more valuable then men's at that point in time (in fact, that's similar to how it is even today, though to a much lesser degree). A byproduct of this was that women had very little agency and were quite literally second class citizens. Women are privileged in some ways just as men are privileged in others.
Interesting how you complain about feminist, yet you're the one who brought feminism into this.
He's a better Manic Pixie Dream Boy than any girl.
If you think he should've survived, then you don't know Jack.
*exits room after awkwardly stumbling on own feet
Hubert Cumberdale i don’t even know what this references but i laughed
This comment is too damn funny
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Lol
Finest pun I’ve see in a long time!
Long answer: this vedio
Short anwer:the directer said it