No one is taking anything Josh Pate has to say seriously when he is out here tweeting that the A&M head coaching job is a top 10 job in college football. Top paying? Absolutely. Top 10 JOB? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I get that Pate and Liucci are personal friends but he needs to step back and look at reality. A&M hasn't won a conference championship in 25 years. They haven't won a national championship in 84 years. They've consistently and historically been an 8-4 program under every coach in recent history. Hell, even the great Bear Bryant wasn't successful at A&M. Give it up, Josh. Call it like it is. A&M is a mid-tier power five football job like Kentucky (who they just tried to steal Stoops from) or Missouri. That's all it's ever been and all it ever will be.
a moment from early in the show that shouldn’t go unnoticed: JP handles his War/Football comparison with real intention and class. doesn’t throw it around like a lot of lessor CFB mouths do. Sir, you always deliver with class and honor and intelligence. My hat off you. (go gators from gainesville florida)
Urban Meyer at Ohio State was a grand slam hire and paid off with a championship. Bit you're right Josh, there's no one else besides those few you mentioned. I'm excited for A&M!
Remember when Nebraska decided to fire Bo Pelini because he was only winning 9 or 10 games a year. Truth be told I'd bet they wish they'd never made that move. ND the same when they made Lou Holtz leave. The list goes on. If Ohio decided to part ways with Day it better be a Meyer type hire.
@johnlee7085 Michigan did the same with Lloyd Carr, but after losing to Appalachian State, they really had no choice. Though they've suffered for a decade plus from it.
It’s not about firing, what matters is hiring. If you fire Dabo swiney, you better get kirby smart…. The replacement got to be better coach to succeed, or you better off waiting.
@@PaperStackerJ as a matter of fact I know more than most on the air. A lot more. I watch cfb everyday as I am retired. None of the on air personalities has watched even half the games I have. I played. Coached and handicapp. Why would I waste my time with the masses ? I have a full time hobby that pays. But I appreciate your suggestion. I have been on a rivalry tour this past 8 weeks, attending some great rivalry games. I'm so fortunate.
These UGA vs. Bama {Smart vs Saban) are going to be the norm in the SEC for the foreseeable future. For the SEC title and then probably the CFP and National title implications. These programs are operating on all cylinders and will provide some the best match ups we will ever see going forward. Although they have already played for multiple championships (SEC and Nattys) I feel like its just the beginning of what will turnout to be one of the greatest rivalries in any era of college football.
I don't hate... or even dislike A&M. I'm an Oregon alum so fairly removed from anything A&M... except for that year "Johnny Football" chose A&M over Oregon. That all being said, looking at the A&M job minus any bias, it's 100% a top tier job in the country. Can people imagine the madhouse A&M would be if they started winning SEC titles? Playoff games? Nation Championships... in this timeline? A&M would make that coach a hero, build a statue, name facility's after him, pay him (insert any quantity of $$ here)... most of all, he wouldn't leave for another tier 1 job like Pate stated. My un-asked for take on this. But man! That midnight yell event was PAINFUL to watch lol 🤣 Had to see what all this Twitter "X" clips were about.
@@drc5378 but they are consistently in the top 10 for recruiting and could very easily be top 5 every year if they started winning as consistently as they recruit
Brian Kelly is more similar to what you're describing. Notre Dame to LSU was pretty good get. We'll see how he'll end up doing but was a proven head coach at a top school
The airport story is awesome!!! It's been that way all my life. And it's not geographically limited. I remember in 1976, at the age of 13, flying from Vegas back to Ohio after spending the summer with my dad. Had a layover in Atlanta. I had a Buckeyes shirt on. A black man at the ticket counter asked if I was a Buckeye. I said of course. He informed me that we had beaten Penn St 12-7 and I had just missed the ending. They all had just been watching. In the heart of SEC country of all places. I'll never forget that.
Food for thought … Washington has won 19 in a row, including Oregon twice, Texas in Texas, Arizona in Tempe, USC in LA with the reigning Heisman winner, two-time defending champ Utah, and Oregon State in Corvallis (where OSU was 17-1 at home) Winning is a skill
I have Oregon at No. 4. Yes, I am aware of the obsession with head to head .... but Washington had the Home Field advantage which nullifies the significance of the 3 point win. Against identical competition .... .... Washington escaped with a 2 point win against Oregon State, while Oregon demolished them by 22 .... Washington beat Arizona St. by 8, while Oregon beat them by 36 .... Washington beat Stanford by 9, Oregon again demolished them by 36. .... Washington beat Utah by 7, Oregon crushed Utah by 29 .... Washington beat Washington state by 3, Oregon dominated with a 24 point win Of course, next week's game will settle this but as with OSU / UM, I'm picking Oregon to win the game. ESPN has Oregon w/ a 75.8% of winning on neutral field. The line is Line: Oregon -9.5
Josh, love your point on the “grand slam hire” but I would argue there’s a few more than ones that u missed, Urban Myer from FL or OSU, Jimbo from FSU to A&M, and kinda Mack Brown from Texas to NC.
id argu jimbo was chased out of fsu cause a lot of fans were happy he was gone and thought he was not the guy without winston... i guess that was true but the replacements were not there either til norvell. but urban was retired for health concerns a few years prior to ohio st and unc isnt a similar tier as texas.
Steve Spurrier and Jimbo Fisher were considered somewhat of a grand slam at the time they were hired. Both won national championships at previous programs. Meyer to Ohio St.
I guess the point is that we’re saying those splash hires being a couple a decade (if that). Probably not a high enough clip to expect a splash hire or bust for A&M
As a Buckeye fan who overacted and called for him to get whacked last year, I have a new appreciation for Day. This was a game that a few breaks was the difference. Just happened to not go his way. His team showed toughness I hadn't seen from the Bucks in quite a while. Michigan won the ground stats, but only because the early turnover allowed them to play with the lead. A side note on that early interception. Am I the only one who noticed that Harrison made little to no effect to go after the ball? He seemed to make a formidable effort to avoid contact though. One overlooked skill of a receiver is the ability to play defense and prevent bad throws from being interceptions. Very disappointing to see that. And it put his team in a deficit it never recovered from.
You are not the only one. I’m a sane Michigan fan and I love Harrison he’s the real deal but that was the first thing that came to my mind real time. If he can’t break it up he’s got to make the tackle. Rooting for him in the league.
Was hoping he was going to mention KU and the job Coach Leipold and company have done. Exceeded the W predictions for the third straight season and bowling for the second year in a row; only the second time ever for KU.
I have Oregon at No. 4. Yes, I am aware of the obsession with head to head .... but Washington had the Home Field advantage which nullifies the significance of the 3 point win. Against identical competition ,,, .... Washington escaped with a 2 point win against Oregon State, while Oregon demolish them by 22 .... Washington beat Arizona St. by 8, while Oregon beat them by 36 .... Washington beat Stanford by 9, Oregon again demolished them by 36. .... Washington beat Utah by 7, Oregon crushed Utah by 29 .... Washington beat Washington state by 3, Oregon dominated with a 24 point win Of course, next week's game will settle this but as with OSU / UM, I'm picking Oregon to win the game.
Pate has some of the best takes in college football. He did say earlier this year his Okie ST take was a bad take after they lost to South Alabama. Come on man don't defend this. You sold and now you are all on board. All respect, Vols by 90.
Michigan at this moment is the most complete football program in the Big Ten top to bottom, President to the ball boys (and girls). Its been a process and a bumpy road to get to this point but along that path its created the monster that we have today. The Michigan coaching staff and trainers have done an amazing job of developing players and putting them in the right positions to help the program along with improve their potential draft stock. Regardless of the off the field stuff and how it plays out its been an incredible 3 years to be a Michigan fan watching whats transpired on the field of play. Go Blue
I'm not a fan of tcu. I've been hearing this narrative that because tcu got destroyed by Georgia in the NC game, that they were not even worthy of being selected to the playoff, which is pretty stupid. They beat Michigan to earn their NC appearance. A number of teams have been badly beaten before in a NC game, why is this suddenly an issue?
@@dylanforche8244 the only Actual comparisons you have to back that could be the lsu and Florida games. FSU held lsu to 17 until half a minute left in the fourth with fsus walkons on the field. Georgia let up 30 to that same team. FSU held Florida to 15, 7 points gifted to them by the refs in such a bad way the tv announcers were shocked. UGA gave up 20. Now they did have their starting QB for the UGA game. Those two comparisons don’t make your argument look great either way.
Director Collin should have done Josh dirty and posted the clip of him recalibrating who he thought was gonna play for the conference championship in the Big 12. 😂
Grand Slam hires? There are 2 in the Big12 and both in Kansas. Kleinman at ksu and Leipold at KU. Both were champions and currently two of the best in football.
I have pointed out to all of my Clemson friends that had they gone to the portal and potentially taken a guy like James Turner from Louisville, they might be playing for college football playoff, ACC championship minimal.
@beckylee82183 Jim Harbaugh had won a Super Bowl before Michigan got him. That was seriously past tense. His situation in SF was very tenuous to say the least even just a year or two later. And even then it’s taken basically a decade and all they’ve really done is beat tOSU.
Absolutely! Although I am a diehard fan, I am also very honest with my critiques on the program. You need that one game where luck comes into play, and that was our lucky game, without a doubt. Apart from the Miami game, the players are confident in their abilities. They prepare well and they study the opponent. This is a vast improvement from the “waffle house” culture. Our program has been so down of late that we are very excited to be 6-6 and go to a lower tier bowl. As I am sure you know, the extra practices are beneficial to any team to build on, and improve even more next season.
Texas HC in Mack Brown at first we hated that he was 1-5 against OU at first. If we had let him go out down turn would’ve happened sooner n we wouldn’t have won in 2005 n had one of our best 5 years in history from 2005-2009 if we had done what I’m sure a lot of fans wanted
17:17 yes we know Josh, you’re in love with ohio state. But here’s the thing you’re not mentioning, Day was out-coached by an offensive coordinator in his 4th ever game as interim head coach.
26:04 What? You told us something we already knew 😂. Anyone who understands the history of the Iron Bowl, Bama fan/Auburn fan, or not knew Bama wasn’t going to run away with the game.
Ohio State can’t be in the playoffs by default every year just because they beat a bunch of weak teams all year and lose their one tough game each year
We need chaos to get in. This only happened last year when Tennessee, Clemson, and USC failed to take care of business. If Texas, and Florida State don't take care of business, then we deserve that spot
@@garretttjordan you're probably right. Maybe we'd get in if Georgia loses by double digits, but it's honestly depressing to even have to hypothesize that far
Texas/OU at Red River Showdown is The Best, HANDS DOWN. Neutral field, split at 50yrd line, 50k seats for each side. One half of stadium is always screaming/yelling/cheering. Ppl from B1G and SEC said Texas/OU is tops!
Unfortunately, Elko will be fired within 3-4 years of his first guaranteed contract, just like Slocum (4 years), Franchione (3 years), Sherman (4 years), Sumlin (4 years), and Fisher (4 years). Like Thanos, it's just inevitable.
@@kendallandrews8691 The only coach that has ever been hired at A&M with the current investment they have is fished. You really want to make conclusions after one coach?
Ryan Day just needs an analytics department to make his 4th down calls for him and the rest is honestly gravy. Huge missteps on 4th down, probably one of the biggest factors in the game.
To be fair, you were the fueling all this with A&M saying, "Watch, there are going to be names for this job popping up that you don't think are available and arent as entrenched in their job as you think." You were the one planting seeds like Dabo or Day would be interested in this job.
@@williamwagner79 actually it's two in the last 20 yrs bro. Played for 3 more. How many other schools have played for 5, and won two this century? It's a very short list. Clemson? Now that's funny. That only makes sense to the elementary math students 😆
@@lawrencematthes8948 Math is a funny concept right? Ohio State's last 3 recognized National Championships 2014, 2002, and 1970. So two national championships in 52-53 years. Mathin is hard aint it.
@@lawrencematthes8948 You want to hear something even funnier? You laugh at the Clemson comment but they have more national championships in the last 50 years then Ohio state according to the NCAA. 😅😅😅😅
Any continued suggestion that James Madison and Liberty should be ranked for beating no teams of significance is embarrassing Liberty had the 118th toughest schedule in the county They beat Sam Houston (No. 131) by 5 points **at home** Their best win is against No. 48 Their average opponent ranking today is 103.58 At 20, they are ranked higher than James Madison James Madison had the 83rd toughest schedule in the county They lost to Appalachian State (No. 56) **at home** Their best win is against No. 37 Their average opponent ranks 17 slots higher than James Madison Madison's competition is far better than Liberty's and yet the 0 in the loss columns erases all logic and common sense.
The Awnser (19:30) to you question “where is the grand slam hire sonic Saban”? It was 5-6 years ago at Georgia. They got a grand slam when they got Kirby. The man is a cloned mini me of Nick Saban. He was his shadow for years and years. Kirby is one of the few out of many assistants who took the opportunity to pay attention and studied Saban. Instead of being like the others who had bad attitudes and egos (Lane) that wouldn’t allow them to learn and add to their tool belts. They just used it as a spring board for a better job
Kirby wasn’t shit until Saban. And whether y’all realize it or not, Saban helped get him the interview at Georgia. He spent the most time with Saban and that’s why he mimicks every single Bama tradition. That’s why his team is built like Alabama. And btw, he didn’t get his first #1 recruiting class overnight. He had to convince and pay players under the table to come to Georgia. Nolan Smith was a great example. I’m not mad about it, but any time that you give Kirby Smart credit you can’t also discredit the man that made him. Kirby wasn’t a grand slam hire. He became one just like Josh talked about in the show.
His point was Kirby couldn't've been a grand slam hire because he had never been a head coach. A grand slam hire would be an established top tier coach. Now in hindsight, Kirby was obviously the right choice. And that's kinda his point. That "Grand slam" hires shouldn't be what you're chasing. Just find the right guy for the job. The hire don't have to be sexy.
@@user-cj6fm9jn7n Let's not pretend a former Georgia player who was a defensive coordinator on national championship teams and was active as hell in recruiting needed help getting an interview at Georgia.
Interesting take on Ryan Day and how it might be different if he had won. It was just a month ago. It was the ND game, though the post game rhetoric didn’t include ND only having 10 players for the last two plays.
No, you definitely didn’t. Kirby was Saban’s protégé. He was nothing and Saban opened that door for him. And your own fans after his first season were calling for his head. You didn’t know shit. And if Alabama wins and Georgia gets left out of the CFP on Saturday, y’all’s fans will switch their tune yet again.
I like the Mike Elko hire, but I feel like Elko is the Stoops of the ACC😂. I could definitely be wrong about that feeling, but they have a similar feel to me.
In regard to Michigan, I see no difference between this year and last year’s team that couldn’t beat an outmanned TCU team. The playoffs will not be played in the cold, playing ball control won’t win them a national championship.
Couldnt have said it better about how rivalries you throw out the records. I dont know how sold i am about FSU and Washington- they seem like they are about to be upset every game
Why would they? They lost much worse to UM in the 2021 CG. And that was against a worse Michigan team. Not to mention this season's Iowa lost most of its offensive skill players to injury, incl their qb. Their best hope to keep it that close is Michigan benching its starters at the half. 🤷♂️
@@positroll7870 simple. It gives them motivation to play harder and prove the odds makers wrong. This year's Muchigan team is no better than last year's team. They will lose in the semifinal game to whoever they play.
@@positroll7870 I am not doubting that Iowa may be crushed by Michigan. I was simply saying I hope Iowa can pull off an upset. Michigan couldn't beat TCU last year. They certainly are not going to beat Georgia or Alabama if they play them. They may get lucky and pull out a win in a close game against Oregon, Washington, Florida State or Texas.
I think sarkesian was a grand slam hire, sure he had a lot of issues before bama but imo he was one of the best offensive coordinators in college football in recent years. He also did play head coach when saban got covid in 2020, which was also a national championship year. I get what you’re saying though about A&M. I think once texas joins the SEC there will be external factors inhibiting them unless Mike Elco comes in and turns that program around at light speed. Texas is a big state sure but they will continually lose recruits to go play for the championship caliber team that Sark has at Texas.
Josh, are you going to act like you didn’t recalibrate your prediction to Oklahoma after you thought your Oklahoma State prediction went down the drain? We keep receipts too.
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Josh, would you consider Brian Kelly going to lsu a grand slam hire?
Y’all gotta pin this comment so it goes to the top and people see it
Bigger screwjob? FSU not getting in CFP or Montreal screwjob?
No one is taking anything Josh Pate has to say seriously when he is out here tweeting that the A&M head coaching job is a top 10 job in college football. Top paying? Absolutely. Top 10 JOB? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I get that Pate and Liucci are personal friends but he needs to step back and look at reality. A&M hasn't won a conference championship in 25 years. They haven't won a national championship in 84 years. They've consistently and historically been an 8-4 program under every coach in recent history. Hell, even the great Bear Bryant wasn't successful at A&M.
Give it up, Josh. Call it like it is. A&M is a mid-tier power five football job like Kentucky (who they just tried to steal Stoops from) or Missouri. That's all it's ever been and all it ever will be.
@@MO_Lip_Ripper you couldn’t be more wrong. Thanks though.
I’ve said it more than once and I’ll say it again; this show is early 90’s ESPN good.
Best college football talk show out there
Just read an article in Spin from 1995 about Sportscenter, when it really blew up, and I thought this too
No question. Better than anything ESPN, Fox, or CBS have.
Pate’s airport story is phenomenal. Gotta love college football.
Never underestimate the importance of a reliable kicker..
Absolutely
Facts!
As a Texas fan, this is so true.
As a Bama fan that has experienced plenty of bad kickers during the Saban era, I concur.
As a Bama fan, it's true that a competent kicker can make you or break you.
a moment from early in the show that shouldn’t go unnoticed: JP handles his War/Football comparison with real intention and class. doesn’t throw it around like a lot of lessor CFB mouths do. Sir, you always deliver with class and honor and intelligence. My hat off you. (go gators from gainesville florida)
He didn’t Tom Brady it.
Urban Meyer at Ohio State was a grand slam hire and paid off with a championship. Bit you're right Josh, there's no one else besides those few you mentioned. I'm excited for A&M!
Came here to say that lol. I am yelling at the radio in my car…URBAN AT OSU JOSH.
Yep and a much needed one at the time. Ohio State after the 2011 season could have had some down time had they hired the wrong guy
Remember when Nebraska decided to fire Bo Pelini because he was only winning 9 or 10 games a year. Truth be told I'd bet they wish they'd never made that move. ND the same when they made Lou Holtz leave. The list goes on. If Ohio decided to part ways with Day it better be a Meyer type hire.
Even before the Huskers fired Pelini, they fired Solich for the same thing. 20 years?
@johnlee7085 Michigan did the same with Lloyd Carr, but after losing to Appalachian State, they really had no choice. Though they've suffered for a decade plus from it.
It worked out when we fired Mark Richt for winning 10 games a year, but never the big one.
It’s not about firing, what matters is hiring. If you fire Dabo swiney, you better get kirby smart….
The replacement got to be better coach to succeed, or you better off waiting.
I agree with you, and they missed out on Burrow. And the only bad thing about Bo was that he was a cat lover😂
Great show today Pate. You’ve already come so far, and yet it’s easy to see this show is only going to get bigger and bigger. Keep up the hard work.
I love Josh, he's not always right with his predictions... but when he is, it's glorious 😂 Those OU screen shats were PERFECT
Right... yeah no better than Stanford steve
Hes wrong more than right. And like a typical human, he doubles down on his bad takes. It's very unbecoming
@@willcover6142Ahhh yes because your predictions are always right more than wrong. Maybe you should start a CFB talk show so we can hear your takes??
@@PaperStackerJ as a matter of fact I know more than most on the air. A lot more. I watch cfb everyday as I am retired. None of the on air personalities has watched even half the games I have. I played. Coached and handicapp. Why would I waste my time with the masses ? I have a full time hobby that pays. But I appreciate your suggestion. I have been on a rivalry tour this past 8 weeks, attending some great rivalry games. I'm so fortunate.
My favorite part is Pate changed his prediction to OU midway through the season lol why mention that tho?
i legitimately think you should consider an ironbowl setting for the model with "if ironbowl: Alabama -2"
If Iron Bowl in Jordan Hare ***
If iron bowl in Tuscaloosa, -9.5
Thank you Josh for giving FSU some love win and we’re in.
Auburn is always on one end or the other of some of the most insane results. I could not believe Alabama got their own prayer at Jordan-Hare
The Milroe Magic or Milroe Miracle
@dukelombardi4565
The Nightmare in Jordan-Hare
Makes up for the FG return TD for the W.
The disaster in the pasture, RTR
Alabama didn’t win the game as much as Auburn just rolled out the red carpet and gave it away.
Awesome you started with Rice made a bowl game!
😂
"What we have now is food in a bowl."
These UGA vs. Bama {Smart vs Saban) are going to be the norm in the SEC for the foreseeable future. For the SEC title and then probably the CFP and National title implications. These programs are operating on all cylinders and will provide some the best match ups we will ever see going forward. Although they have already played for multiple championships (SEC and Nattys) I feel like its just the beginning of what will turnout to be one of the greatest rivalries in any era of college football.
Especially with the average age/ college year of their actual classes, there's a whole cycle that has just begun and it will be glorious!
Saban is retiring if not this year real soon. He's 3 years older than the Bear was when he passed !
Then I guess the coaches would be OK trading their 10 to 15 million vs 25 to 100k most of their fans make
Foreseeable future? Saban is 137 years old.
Sound like a dickrider to me
A&M just had the #1 recruiting class last year. Their boosters are the 2nd wealthiest in cfb. It's definitely a tier 1 job.
I don't hate... or even dislike A&M. I'm an Oregon alum so fairly removed from anything A&M... except for that year "Johnny Football" chose A&M over Oregon. That all being said, looking at the A&M job minus any bias, it's 100% a top tier job in the country. Can people imagine the madhouse A&M would be if they started winning SEC titles? Playoff games? Nation Championships... in this timeline? A&M would make that coach a hero, build a statue, name facility's after him, pay him (insert any quantity of $$ here)... most of all, he wouldn't leave for another tier 1 job like Pate stated. My un-asked for take on this. But man! That midnight yell event was PAINFUL to watch lol 🤣 Had to see what all this Twitter "X" clips were about.
Bama had the no. 1 class last year. Tamu had the best class two years ago and many of them have left the team already.
@@drc5378 but they are consistently in the top 10 for recruiting and could very easily be top 5 every year if they started winning as consistently as they recruit
A n m is a football abyss. No winning tradition, no championship tradition...........EVER
They haven't been keeping them and they can't keep them healthy.
Brian Kelly is more similar to what you're describing. Notre Dame to LSU was pretty good get. We'll see how he'll end up doing but was a proven head coach at a top school
The airport story is awesome!!! It's been that way all my life. And it's not geographically limited. I remember in 1976, at the age of 13, flying from Vegas back to Ohio after spending the summer with my dad. Had a layover in Atlanta. I had a Buckeyes shirt on. A black man at the ticket counter asked if I was a Buckeye. I said of course. He informed me that we had beaten Penn St 12-7 and I had just missed the ending. They all had just been watching. In the heart of SEC country of all places. I'll never forget that.
Next weekend boutta be wild. Possibly the best selection sunday we’ve ever had
They should’ve decided to do it in prime time
Depends how the conf title games go about. If UGA, FSU, WAS, and MICH take care of business it's boring... Only question is who plays Washington.
@@frankschaefer88904 undefeated would be wild
Food for thought … Washington has won 19 in a row, including Oregon twice, Texas in Texas, Arizona in Tempe, USC in LA with the reigning Heisman winner, two-time defending champ Utah, and Oregon State in Corvallis (where OSU was 17-1 at home)
Winning is a skill
I have Oregon at No. 4. Yes, I am aware of the obsession with head to head .... but Washington had the Home Field advantage which nullifies the significance of the 3 point win. Against identical competition ....
.... Washington escaped with a 2 point win against Oregon State, while Oregon demolished them by 22
.... Washington beat Arizona St. by 8, while Oregon beat them by 36
.... Washington beat Stanford by 9, Oregon again demolished them by 36.
.... Washington beat Utah by 7, Oregon crushed Utah by 29
.... Washington beat Washington state by 3, Oregon dominated with a 24 point win
Of course, next week's game will settle this but as with OSU / UM, I'm picking Oregon to win the game. ESPN has Oregon w/ a 75.8% of winning on neutral field. The line is Line: Oregon -9.5
Literally a player named Mclaughlin on the screen while he is talking about the Sarah Mclaughlin special 😂
So happy that food can go bowling in this world we live in. Also, ROLL TIDE!!
Tuning in to Late Kick as an Auburn fan has felt damn near masochistic
Honestly glad he didn’t mention my cards losing to Kentucky
Josh, love your point on the “grand slam hire” but I would argue there’s a few more than ones that u missed, Urban Myer from FL or OSU, Jimbo from FSU to A&M, and kinda Mack Brown from Texas to NC.
id argu jimbo was chased out of fsu cause a lot of fans were happy he was gone and thought he was not the guy without winston... i guess that was true but the replacements were not there either til norvell. but urban was retired for health concerns a few years prior to ohio st and unc isnt a similar tier as texas.
Steve Spurrier and Jimbo Fisher were considered somewhat of a grand slam at the time they were hired. Both won national championships at previous programs. Meyer to Ohio St.
I guess the point is that we’re saying those splash hires being a couple a decade (if that). Probably not a high enough clip to expect a splash hire or bust for A&M
"It's not the flex you think it is". Quote of the year!
It was plagiarized for God's sake. Lmfao.
@@willcover6142 No one said he came up with it as an original, f'n 🤡. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the shoutout to Dave Doeren for his coaching job! And also love the show!
As a Buckeye fan who overacted and called for him to get whacked last year, I have a new appreciation for Day. This was a game that a few breaks was the difference. Just happened to not go his way. His team showed toughness I hadn't seen from the Bucks in quite a while. Michigan won the ground stats, but only because the early turnover allowed them to play with the lead. A side note on that early interception. Am I the only one who noticed that Harrison made little to no effect to go after the ball? He seemed to make a formidable effort to avoid contact though. One overlooked skill of a receiver is the ability to play defense and prevent bad throws from being interceptions. Very disappointing to see that. And it put his team in a deficit it never recovered from.
You are not the only one. I’m a sane Michigan fan and I love Harrison he’s the real deal but that was the first thing that came to my mind real time. If he can’t break it up he’s got to make the tackle. Rooting for him in the league.
Nice segment about the “other good teams” at the end. Well done.
Was hoping he was going to mention KU and the job Coach Leipold and company have done. Exceeded the W predictions for the third straight season and bowling for the second year in a row; only the second time ever for KU.
One of the best sports guys out there
Keep killin it Josh, Jesse, and Brad
Go Blue〽️
I have to say I really like your show all the way a round.i have been a duck fan my whole life 56 years. Once a duck always a duck.go ducks.
I have Oregon at No. 4. Yes, I am aware of the obsession with head to head .... but Washington had the Home Field advantage which nullifies the significance of the 3 point win. Against identical competition ,,,
.... Washington escaped with a 2 point win against Oregon State, while Oregon demolish them by 22
.... Washington beat Arizona St. by 8, while Oregon beat them by 36
.... Washington beat Stanford by 9, Oregon again demolished them by 36.
.... Washington beat Utah by 7, Oregon crushed Utah by 29
.... Washington beat Washington state by 3, Oregon dominated with a 24 point win
Of course, next week's game will settle this but as with OSU / UM, I'm picking Oregon to win the game.
Have never been more fuming while listening to Pate than during the iron bowl recap. War Eagle from Lee County
Not sure if Josh would care for it but I’m all for a 2 hour show time tbh.
15 to 20 minutes tops. The rest is just filler
There was a lot of people calling for Harbaugh’s firing just a few years ago and look what patience has provided
Great shoutout to Alex Golesh! Well deserved! He’s got a bright future as a head coach!
I think Mike Norvell could evolve into a grand slam hire. !!
Pate has some of the best takes in college football. He did say earlier this year his Okie ST take was a bad take after they lost to South Alabama. Come on man don't defend this. You sold and now you are all on board. All respect, Vols by 90.
Congratulations to A&M; Mike Elko is a great hire and wish him the best.
Can’t be more mad at A&M fans for forcing administration to take Elko from Duke😢
Dang, Auburn earned the Sara Mclaughlin special treatment 2 weeks in a row 😅
Michigan at this moment is the most complete football program in the Big Ten top to bottom, President to the ball boys (and girls). Its been a process and a bumpy road to get to this point but along that path its created the monster that we have today. The Michigan coaching staff and trainers have done an amazing job of developing players and putting them in the right positions to help the program along with improve their potential draft stock. Regardless of the off the field stuff and how it plays out its been an incredible 3 years to be a Michigan fan watching whats transpired on the field of play. Go Blue
Great show. Thanks LKC (late kick crew)
People cannot deny that FSU’s defense is championship worthy. Not saying we win, but to act like we get TCU’d is a fever dream lol
TCU won a game FSU has no chance against Michigan or Georgia
@@dylanforche8244hell yeah like how they barely beat Georgia tech Saturday. Georgia is unbeatable
@@DYRFootball Georgia tech has a better offense than FSU without Travis and Georgia has a better defense than Florida state
I'm not a fan of tcu. I've been hearing this narrative that because tcu got destroyed by Georgia in the NC game, that they were not even worthy of being selected to the playoff, which is pretty stupid.
They beat Michigan to earn their NC appearance.
A number of teams have been badly beaten before in a NC game, why is this suddenly an issue?
@@dylanforche8244 the only
Actual comparisons you have to back that could be the lsu and Florida games. FSU held lsu to 17 until half a minute left in the fourth with fsus walkons on the field. Georgia let up 30 to that same team. FSU held Florida to 15, 7 points gifted to them by the refs in such a bad way the tv announcers were shocked. UGA gave up 20. Now they did have their starting QB for the UGA game. Those two comparisons don’t make your argument look great either way.
Great show, as always, Josh!
Appreciate the voice of optimism for Arkansas. I don’t feel that way because good lord this season was awful, but I appreciate nonetheless
Optimism? Essentially predicting the hogs will crash next year, just not in a full blown nosedive.
Director Collin should have done Josh dirty and posted the clip of him recalibrating who he thought was gonna play for the conference championship in the Big 12. 😂
Grand Slam hires?
There are 2 in the Big12 and both in Kansas.
Kleinman at ksu and Leipold at KU. Both were champions and currently two of the best in football.
I have pointed out to all of my Clemson friends that had they gone to the portal and potentially taken a guy like James Turner from Louisville, they might be playing for college football playoff, ACC championship minimal.
Even though I knew it was coming, the delivery of “food in a bowl” made me actually laugh out loud
You guys are lucky aggies. Pate said you guys have a turn key program. Time for elko to turn that beast on for a natty run next year. 😤
Show us the receipts from when you (re)picked Oklahoma to go to the Big 12 Championship!!!
Urban Meyer to Ohio St only other one I can think of in in terms of grand slam hire of a championship caliber coach
@beckylee82183
Jim Harbaugh had won a Super Bowl before Michigan got him.
That was seriously past tense. His situation in SF was very tenuous to say the least even just a year or two later. And even then it’s taken basically a decade and all they’ve really done is beat tOSU.
@@beckylee82183 What Super Bowl did he win? Only one I recall him making in his tenure at SF was XLVII against the Ravens and he lost that one.
You said Florida hasn't made a bowl game 3 years in a row now. Didn't Florida go to a bowl game last year against Oregon State?
Benjamin Franklin bit was golden
Josh, HUGE GT fan here and big time thrilled about the direction of our program.I firmly believe CBK will make us relevant again.
Objectively yall are trending in the right direction but I DO have to wonder that if it wasn't for Mario Cristobal, would you be making this comment?
Absolutely! Although I am a diehard fan, I am also very honest with my critiques on the program. You need that one game where luck comes into play, and that was our lucky game, without a doubt. Apart from the Miami game, the players are confident in their abilities. They prepare well and they study the opponent. This is a vast improvement from the “waffle house” culture. Our program has been so down of late that we are very excited to be 6-6 and go to a lower tier bowl. As I am sure you know, the extra practices are beneficial to any team to build on, and improve even more next season.
Hey Kirby - be sure to keep the pressure on Milroe.
Kirby ain't Hugh freeze, Kirby isn't send just 2 people on a 4th and 31...
28:00 playing a Sarah McLachlan song when Bama has a player with the last name McLaughlin, what a coincidence 😂😂
Got to come up for Texas game next year, Josh. Or SC(probably night game). September games
That coach is the Offensive Coordinator and calls the plays, Harbaugh doesn't call the plays. He has called them all year!
Love my Detroit Red Wings 😂❤
Texas HC in Mack Brown at first we hated that he was 1-5 against OU at first. If we had let him go out down turn would’ve happened sooner n we wouldn’t have won in 2005 n had one of our best 5 years in history from 2005-2009 if we had done what I’m sure a lot of fans wanted
@latekickwithJoshPate Everyone forgets Bama offered to job to Rich Rodriguez first and he backed out....then they got Saban.
Wow!!! Good knowledge.
“President Franklin literally invented electricity” - Three Year Letterman
17:17 yes we know Josh, you’re in love with ohio state. But here’s the thing you’re not mentioning, Day was out-coached by an offensive coordinator in his 4th ever game as interim head coach.
The Iron Bowl was by far the best watch this Thanksgiving weekend. As expected
That's far from unusual.
Ironically enough, the last "grand slam, championship level coach" to be hired was Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M 😂😂😂
Hey Josh what was your prediction for the Big Ten championship??
JP really is the One Punch Man of sports media
Urban meets your definition of a dream hire in Columbus
That is cool congrats to rice and there can base for making a bowl game that’s great for rice and for college football.
26:04 What? You told us something we already knew 😂. Anyone who understands the history of the Iron Bowl, Bama fan/Auburn fan, or not knew Bama wasn’t going to run away with the game.
Ohio State can’t be in the playoffs by default every year just because they beat a bunch of weak teams all year and lose their one tough game each year
We need chaos to get in. This only happened last year when Tennessee, Clemson, and USC failed to take care of business. If Texas, and Florida State don't take care of business, then we deserve that spot
Notre Dame and Penn State are not week
@@Glue_Stick98And you need a UGA win. A 1-loss UGA would be more deserving (and better)
@@garretttjordan you're probably right. Maybe we'd get in if Georgia loses by double digits, but it's honestly depressing to even have to hypothesize that far
@@theJukeboxHero40Penn state is garbage. Zero offense.
Josh picked penn state and Ohio state vs Michigan. YOU HATE TO SEE IT
Agreed 😂
Texas/OU at Red River Showdown is The Best, HANDS DOWN. Neutral field, split at 50yrd line, 50k seats for each side. One half of stadium is always screaming/yelling/cheering. Ppl from B1G and SEC said Texas/OU is tops!
Unfortunately, Elko will be fired within 3-4 years of his first guaranteed contract, just like Slocum (4 years), Franchione (3 years), Sherman (4 years), Sumlin (4 years), and Fisher (4 years). Like Thanos, it's just inevitable.
He’ll only get a guaranteed contract if he performs well first.
Yep. No way elko is the guy that gets A&m to the next level.
@@kendallandrews8691 why not?
@@colepriceguitar1153 because coaches far more proven than him repeatedly fail at A&m
@@kendallandrews8691 The only coach that has ever been hired at A&M with the current investment they have is fished. You really want to make conclusions after one coach?
Ryan Day just needs an analytics department to make his 4th down calls for him and the rest is honestly gravy. Huge missteps on 4th down, probably one of the biggest factors in the game.
What about Urban Meyer at Ohio State as a grand slam hire in 2012?
To be fair, you were the fueling all this with A&M saying, "Watch, there are going to be names for this job popping up that you don't think are available and arent as entrenched in their job as you think." You were the one planting seeds like Dabo or Day would be interested in this job.
Ohio State fans "we are use to winning championships" bro you have won 2 in 53 years.
Conference championships don't count? Wake up dude.
@@lawrencematthes8948 It will be alright bro, Clemson fans sound like you guys right now too.
@@williamwagner79 actually it's two in the last 20 yrs bro. Played for 3 more. How many other schools have played for 5, and won two this century? It's a very short list. Clemson? Now that's funny. That only makes sense to the elementary math students 😆
@@lawrencematthes8948 Math is a funny concept right? Ohio State's last 3 recognized National Championships 2014, 2002, and 1970. So two national championships in 52-53 years. Mathin is hard aint it.
@@lawrencematthes8948 You want to hear something even funnier? You laugh at the Clemson comment but they have more national championships in the last 50 years then Ohio state according to the NCAA. 😅😅😅😅
Excited to see Pate at the Liberty game on Friday and not in the Las Vegas desert for the pac championship
Traveling cross country overnight is hard
Any continued suggestion that James Madison and Liberty should be ranked for beating no teams of significance is embarrassing
Liberty had the 118th toughest schedule in the county
They beat Sam Houston (No. 131) by 5 points **at home**
Their best win is against No. 48
Their average opponent ranking today is 103.58
At 20, they are ranked higher than James Madison
James Madison had the 83rd toughest schedule in the county
They lost to Appalachian State (No. 56) **at home**
Their best win is against No. 37
Their average opponent ranks 17 slots higher than James Madison
Madison's competition is far better than Liberty's and yet the 0 in the loss columns erases all logic and common sense.
Great show. Well done.
Your French accent at 30:40 ish is impeccable.
The Awnser (19:30) to you question “where is the grand slam hire sonic Saban”? It was 5-6 years ago at Georgia. They got a grand slam when they got Kirby. The man is a cloned mini me of Nick Saban. He was his shadow for years and years. Kirby is one of the few out of many assistants who took the opportunity to pay attention and studied Saban. Instead of being like the others who had bad attitudes and egos (Lane) that wouldn’t allow them to learn and add to their tool belts. They just used it as a spring board for a better job
Kirby is (present tense) because he’s won. He wasn’t a grand slam when he was hired because he was just a coordinator.
Kirby wasn’t shit until Saban. And whether y’all realize it or not, Saban helped get him the interview at Georgia. He spent the most time with Saban and that’s why he mimicks every single Bama tradition. That’s why his team is built like Alabama. And btw, he didn’t get his first #1 recruiting class overnight. He had to convince and pay players under the table to come to Georgia. Nolan Smith was a great example. I’m not mad about it, but any time that you give Kirby Smart credit you can’t also discredit the man that made him. Kirby wasn’t a grand slam hire. He became one just like Josh talked about in the show.
His point was Kirby couldn't've been a grand slam hire because he had never been a head coach.
A grand slam hire would be an established top tier coach.
Now in hindsight, Kirby was obviously the right choice. And that's kinda his point. That "Grand slam" hires shouldn't be what you're chasing. Just find the right guy for the job. The hire don't have to be sexy.
@@user-cj6fm9jn7n Let's not pretend a former Georgia player who was a defensive coordinator on national championship teams and was active as hell in recruiting needed help getting an interview at Georgia.
Interesting take on Ryan Day and how it might be different if he had won. It was just a month ago. It was the ND game, though the post game rhetoric didn’t include ND only having 10 players for the last two plays.
Kirby was definitely a grand slam hire. We all at UGA knew we'd win a natty with Kirby as soon as he was hired
No, you definitely didn’t. Kirby was Saban’s protégé. He was nothing and Saban opened that door for him. And your own fans after his first season were calling for his head. You didn’t know shit. And if Alabama wins and Georgia gets left out of the CFP on Saturday, y’all’s fans will switch their tune yet again.
Lol, who were you talking to? There were so many Georgia fans livid we let go of Richt for someone who was never a head coach.
Please make the tweets a segment doesn’t have to be every show but that was great especially with the guy that’s with you at CBS 😂
"and now we have food in a bowl!"😂
I like the Mike Elko hire, but I feel like Elko is the Stoops of the ACC😂. I could definitely be wrong about that feeling, but they have a similar feel to me.
Elko gives me very good vibes 😎
In regard to Michigan, I see no difference between this year and last year’s team that couldn’t beat an outmanned TCU team. The playoffs will not be played in the cold, playing ball control won’t win them a national championship.
The ‘disaster in the pasture’ was like a tornado touching down and then suddenly lifting.
Love the Elko Hire, want to see coach E stay and we got something special
I know the entire Michigan fan base thought Jim Harbaugh was a grand slam hire.
Oregon Washington that would be my pick
19:20
Jimbo at TAMU, Brian Kelly at LSU, Lincoln Riley at USC
Meyer to OSU as well
Couldnt have said it better about how rivalries you throw out the records. I dont know how sold i am about FSU and Washington- they seem like they are about to be upset every game
I hope Iowa feels disrespected and insulted by that 21-point betting line against Michigan.
Why would they?
They lost much worse to UM in the 2021 CG.
And that was against a worse Michigan team.
Not to mention this season's Iowa lost most of its offensive skill players to injury, incl their qb.
Their best hope to keep it that close is Michigan benching its starters at the half. 🤷♂️
Not as disrespected as fans watching their offense.
21-0
@@positroll7870 simple. It gives them motivation to play harder and prove the odds makers wrong. This year's Muchigan team is no better than last year's team. They will lose in the semifinal game to whoever they play.
@@marcusjones5287 Iowa will get crushed.
Same with FSU or Washington in the semis.
Then the battle will be on with Georgia.
@@positroll7870 I am not doubting that Iowa may be crushed by Michigan. I was simply saying I hope Iowa can pull off an upset. Michigan couldn't beat TCU last year. They certainly are not going to beat Georgia or Alabama if they play them. They may get lucky and pull out a win in a close game against Oregon, Washington, Florida State or Texas.
Josh you’re a bammer since birth… Ik you loved the iron bowl result
I think sarkesian was a grand slam hire, sure he had a lot of issues before bama but imo he was one of the best offensive coordinators in college football in recent years. He also did play head coach when saban got covid in 2020, which was also a national championship year. I get what you’re saying though about A&M. I think once texas joins the SEC there will be external factors inhibiting them unless Mike Elco comes in and turns that program around at light speed. Texas is a big state sure but they will continually lose recruits to go play for the championship caliber team that Sark has at Texas.
@LateKickwithJoshPate what about those mid-season corrections?!?
Josh, are you going to act like you didn’t recalibrate your prediction to Oklahoma after you thought your Oklahoma State prediction went down the drain? We keep receipts too.
Who cares. He was initially right. Your first hunch is your best punch more times than not.
@@KevinJL if that’s the case then stick with it!
@@colepriceguitar1153 He was right. Texas wins Big 12 anyway. Bet pays.