It's only counterfeit if you try to sell a copy as an original. Buying these in the full knowledge that they aren't original cards and not reselling them is perfectly fine.
@@Tehstampede no, it’s a counterfeit if everyone thinks it’s real and you hiding the fact they are fake cards. You can’t call the proxies when you can enter your lgs and win a tournament with them.
Not everyone will do that though.. and it is also easy to forget which of your cards are in fact proxies 😅. So you can end up comitting a crime even if you did not intend to.
What do the backs of the Proxy Kings' look like? I know some places use their own backsides so that they can't be passed as anything else. Update: the backs of the cards look legit. You can't even really tell they're proxys.
Anyone know how I can tell the difference from these and the actual cards? I know they're ultra realistic proxies, but shouldn't there be a obvious difference between them without needing me to have the real and proxy side by side?
@@andyotero5663 Thats a good point that may have sliped past him in creating the video, I use a site he didn't mention and they will not let you use the original backs, I love the magic the proxy backs that I use.
I just go to office depot, print out 100 cards on 8 x 11 matte label paper, then cut them out and stick them to bulk MTG cards, for about 40.00 per devk.
I personally don’t like playing with proxies but in defense of them, if you already own a copy of the card and want to play it in multiple decks, then I think a proxy is ok instead of paying for multiple expensive originals or swapping your decks all the time. You can play test with proxies and decide if you want to get the real versions of the cards you want. And as long as you are not trying to pass them as originals, sell them as real cards, and your play group is ok with it, there’s nothing wrong.
F that if u wanna play with proxies/counterfeit cards just do it... Having to own a copy already is jut dumb IMO... Maybe Wotc should reprint the actual cards we need.
@@subzero308 I love the loophole MTG players use to justify buying and playing with counterfeit cards. It’s a card game at the end of the day. Just play with your fake cards, no one cares outside of the tournament.
Pretty much. And there are people that try to sell these or trade them in a LGS , thats a major problem and for high value cards you can outright call the police on them. Any store that wants to keep up a reputation should not allow any counterfeits anywhere near their location and make sure people mark their proxy cards so its absolutely clear they are playtest cards (not having the Magic back is a big help, any "Proxy" with a magic card backside is questionable, as people will always play them in sleeves anyway).
It is unfortunate that people get scammed with these cards. I have a very large collection of nice looking proxies and have written proxy with a sharpie on the back of every single one of them. I only use them in my play group anyways.
@@dough4prez looky here we go anouth one of those guy who thinks hell get rich on his cards someday. I play with proxys, only in my friend group, cant stand many myg fans around my area. I also have them printed with PROXY big on back pulse ill never sell my cards not even my old one that are probably older than you are cause guess what, I play with them and that makes them not worth selling in the future. I guess you came to a proxy video to what fan hate and shit talk you will be ok my dude a girl will let you touch her one day not today I'm sure but one day...maybe.
Y because ur egos too big and u don't wanna play the game for skill... I have 8 top tier modern decks 5 r fully foiled... I chose to spend money on the cards... But if someone sits down and playing against me with a full on counterfeit/proxy deck y would I care I'm here to play magic not to show everyone how much money I have. Skill is skill no matter if u use "real" cards or proxies. As long as the cars is clear and looks like a card its all good.
It's only counterfeit if you try to sell a copy as an original. Buying these in the full knowledge that they aren't original cards and not reselling them is perfectly fine.
Even if you resell them it's fine as long as you don't try to resell it as the original.
They're also not selling them at original card prices.
@@Tehstampede no, it’s a counterfeit if everyone thinks it’s real and you hiding the fact they are fake cards. You can’t call the proxies when you can enter your lgs and win a tournament with them.
Your apart of the problem
@@GunpointP the problem of affordable cardboard based gaming? Do you ever wonder why you dont have a pod? this is why lmao
I love proxy king, little pricey but the quality is great. I just make sure to write proxy on the back of the card with marker
Exactly what I do, i want to make sure I don’t ever accidentally trade/sell a proxy as a real card. Plus, ya know, what if I die
Not everyone will do that though.. and it is also easy to forget which of your cards are in fact proxies 😅. So you can end up comitting a crime even if you did not intend to.
What do the backs of the Proxy Kings' look like? I know some places use their own backsides so that they can't be passed as anything else.
Update: the backs of the cards look legit. You can't even really tell they're proxys.
Been using proxy kings for years. Some of the cards I have look better than the real prints. Only down side is their selection is limited
I was looking to proxy a vintage cube and this video definitely help a lot!! Thanks :D
Do both websites do international shipping Or just the US?
From Singapore
Anyone know how I can tell the difference from these and the actual cards? I know they're ultra realistic proxies, but shouldn't there be a obvious difference between them without needing me to have the real and proxy side by side?
Proxys dont try to be counterfeits. Often they use different card backs, sometimes even with "proxy" and "not for sale" written on them.
@@IBloy just wish the guy could take the time to show that card back then,
Light test, rosette printing pattern in the green dot on the back... There are some other ways, not sure off the top of my head.
@@andyotero5663 Thats a good point that may have sliped past him in creating the video, I use a site he didn't mention and they will not let you use the original backs, I love the magic the proxy backs that I use.
Proxy king sells counterfeits.
How do these two options compare to MPC?
Nice! Proxy king ftw
Nahh Printmtg
Looks like the corners are a little rough cut.
Yeah, I noticed that, too. Oh well. They're proxies so it's not that huge of a loss.
So these sites can't do custom cards, like from a fan set? Thats more the speed im hoping for.
Is the real zne polluted delta foil etched like the proxy in the video?
I just go to office depot, print out 100 cards on 8 x 11 matte label paper, then cut them out and stick them to bulk MTG cards, for about 40.00 per devk.
No. They don't let you print copyrighted stuff
@@hyperchord if you use self service, they aren't held liable, incase you do something stupid. Been doing it for years.
@@ArsisKytori Are the printers as good?
@@hyperchord Yes, they basically use the same printer in the back, that you would use at self service.
@@ArsisKytori in that case, I have questions. Do people still use the portable thumb drives to save the files on?
I personally don’t like playing with proxies but in defense of them, if you already own a copy of the card and want to play it in multiple decks, then I think a proxy is ok instead of paying for multiple expensive originals or swapping your decks all the time. You can play test with proxies and decide if you want to get the real versions of the cards you want. And as long as you are not trying to pass them as originals, sell them as real cards, and your play group is ok with it, there’s nothing wrong.
F that if u wanna play with proxies/counterfeit cards just do it... Having to own a copy already is jut dumb IMO... Maybe Wotc should reprint the actual cards we need.
@@subzero308 I love the loophole MTG players use to justify buying and playing with counterfeit cards. It’s a card game at the end of the day. Just play with your fake cards, no one cares outside of the tournament.
Proxy king cards look r3al and fool everyone
$5 for a proxy VS
arent those counterfeits and not proxies?
What are you smoking
@@dragoncpu2226 the good stuff
@@dragoncpu2226what are you smoking? What is the purpose of having an exact 1 for 1 replica that is very hard to distinguish?
Pretty much.
And there are people that try to sell these or trade them in a LGS , thats a major problem and for high value cards you can outright call the police on them.
Any store that wants to keep up a reputation should not allow any counterfeits anywhere near their location and make sure people mark their proxy cards so its absolutely clear they are playtest cards (not having the Magic back is a big help, any "Proxy" with a magic card backside is questionable, as people will always play them in sleeves anyway).
It is unfortunate that people get scammed with these cards. I have a very large collection of nice looking proxies and have written proxy with a sharpie on the back of every single one of them. I only use them in my play group anyways.
This is counterfeiting not proxying
Boohoo go pay $80 for one card
Long as the backs say they are not for resale then they are proxies……also the print quality is likely better than WOTC. 😂
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Vampireinarm1 better deal than paying money for fakes.
@@dough4prez looky here we go anouth one of those guy who thinks hell get rich on his cards someday. I play with proxys, only in my friend group, cant stand many myg fans around my area. I also have them printed with PROXY big on back pulse ill never sell my cards not even my old one that are probably older than you are cause guess what, I play with them and that makes them not worth selling in the future. I guess you came to a proxy video to what fan hate and shit talk you will be ok my dude a girl will let you touch her one day not today I'm sure but one day...maybe.
Sounds more like "counterfeits"
Go pay $40 for a sigle then , and feel good about yourself .
Counterfeit users should only play other proxy users
Yeah how dare those proxy users not pay thousands of dollar to wizards in order to play a game. Those bastards.
shut up lol
and dumb people should only be allowed to talk to dumb people, well I see that's not true since I see you talking to others here.
Y because ur egos too big and u don't wanna play the game for skill... I have 8 top tier modern decks 5 r fully foiled... I chose to spend money on the cards... But if someone sits down and playing against me with a full on counterfeit/proxy deck y would I care I'm here to play magic not to show everyone how much money I have. Skill is skill no matter if u use "real" cards or proxies. As long as the cars is clear and looks like a card its all good.
You can't really tell under sleeves. Especially on Spelltable or something