Should You Forget Everything You Know About Wheel Size? | Blake Tries 29ers
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- Forget about what you’ve been told about 29 inch mountain bikes being sluggish, boring, and for tall people. It’s time to do rad stuff and see how much fun can be had on a 29er 🤘
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Have you tried a 29er? Let us know!
I ride a 29er 06 Gary fisher x-cal
One of the 1st 29ers
I've made the jump to a 29er this year. Came from a 26er, so it was a bit difficult for me at the beggining. I've got used to it now, but it definitely rides differently. I think the biggest difference for me is that it gains much more speed on steep descends as my 26er did. I need to use the brakes way more because of that, which can make them overheat on longer downhills. Never had this problem on the 26er.
I am riding 29ers since I was 11 years old.
I never tried a 29er
im 185cm and got the Orbea Rallon m10 - 29 in large this year, super fun and stable bike! Altough im selling it to buy the YT CAPRA 29 in a XL instead!
Riding to much bikepark so i cracked the orbea frame in like 8 days and had to pay full for replacement! still waiting for the backswing 5 weeks in :) #greatcustomerservice
I'm 6"4 and ride 29. My buddy is 6"5 and rides 27.5. Just ride what works for you.
Don't let people take you down into the swamp of "standards".
REV IT85 so well put, “the swamp of standards” so perfect for this industry. I always feel the tinge of being left behind with every new product that comes out. As if my 6,000.00 bike is not good enough any more or worse yet replacement parts are going to disappear. Forcing me to throw out my ride and be forced into a new one.
REV IT85 I’m 5’6.5” and love my Evil 29er
I'm 6'1 and still rocking them 26
I love my surly fat bike , its really heavy which i like (motor bike feel) wide bottom bracket great comfortable
& I had a big tyred bike when I was a little kid , so in old age I bump about on it, Im 4 again ,sounds stupid ? Im happy , cycling is for fun
Hecka nice profile pic bro can u tell me where you got it?
If you like 27.5, you are going to love the new light, fun and nimble 26
Hahah
Meanwhile I am still on a 26 , not regretting a bit !
Totally Agree, 26 Hardtail m136 Trinx
Make 26 great again! 😂
Ride what you want honestly, try one, try not. I think your issue may be with scarcity going forward. I came in the other way from a 29er, I tried a 27.5 and it didn't feel right.
@@Monkey_slapping_keys I also tried 29er and 27.5, for me they don’t feel right!
Yeah, it's easy, it's lighter.
I bet Blake goes straight back after this Paid Promotion
It is sooo obvious that this is commercial, but Neal is sponsored by Canyon and I think his preference is 29er
@@ile911 All the GMBN guys are sponsored by Canyon
It honestly makes me sad, i know they dont owe me any honesty, but i learned a lot watching gmbn, and to see them going all in with the industry lobby before customers eyes... Breaks my heart
In video he had canyon spectral 27.5 and then tried strive 29er. Both great bikes, I ride 27.5 spectral.
As a rider of both 27.5 and 29 bikes, the difference is vastly overstated and really splitting hairs. But, MTB media has got to talk about something.
What's the difference?
Anyone wants to do the physics?
For me there Is a lot of difference (165 cm height)
If you live in the Isle of Man I dont think that makes a diference. You Just Go and Ride around the Island.
@@amermeleitor which better for everyday commuting and occasional trails
Blake had obviously no idea how a 29er rides since he did the 2017 Megavalanche on a Mega29...
Theres always one..........
he did it in a 275
@@therigli th-cam.com/video/GI1B1ooxHwM/w-d-xo.html
All for the show man, all for the show
@@cheeta2000 check the nukeproof site, there's an article about it and it says 275 there
All that fear over an inch and a half 🤣🤣🤣
Tell that to my wife 😜
Nick Carolan it actually makes the bike about .75 inches taller lol
Nope. People tend to forget that 27.5 is actually 650b and as such is only 25mm bigger than 26. The industry started calling it 27.5 to identify the standard as halfway between the existing 26 and 29 size . 26=559MM, 650b(27.5)=584mm and 29=622mm.
@@thetick744 , keeping in mind that 29ers actually have 28 inch rims, the differences aren't that big either way.
29ers do NOT have 28 inch rims! You are probably confusing them with 700c which are commonly called 28 inch wheels. They have the same erto of 622 mm (so actually about 24 inches)but wheel size and rim size are not the same. Fit a spindly road tyre to a 700c rim and you get a diameter of around 28 inches, got a much larger mtb tyre to a 29er rim and you get an outside diameter of 29 inches.
It's all about what the bike companies want you to ride.
Exactly, because they've stopped making 26 and 27.5.
As long as Schwalbe and Maxxis keep making tires for them, I'll keep riding my 26ers. I don't need a new bike any time soon.
It’s all about what works for you!
Love watching these two ride! Great presenters and very entertaining! Also, so happy to see the prudent braking in the corners! Way too many MTB TH-cam influencers skidding and sliding unnecessarily through corners... Keep it up guys!!!
I keep coming back to this.
The footage/ music mix is very enjoyable.
The content is also direct and to the point.
Great job on one of your best presentations yet.
I was a long time hold out to change from 26. When I was on 29 I always felt the front end was too tall. Decided to go 27.5 and still kind of feel the front end is y’all for my liking but not nearly as bad as the 29er. As a former XC racer I’m still not on board with 29er... maybe one day. But not anytime soon. 27.5 is where I’m at now.
I feel like for racing and hardtails 29er wheels are great, but as a everyday rider that has had a 29er and a 27.5 bike, I prefer 27.5 on the trail, because it is better for jibbing and such.
My first MTB was a hard tail 29er (Trek X Caliber 8). It was ok. Then I got a FS 27.5 (YT Capra) and that's when I found out how much fun MTB really is. Easy more nimble and dynamic. Any 29 benefit such as rolling over bigger obstacles with ease is negated by how sluggish they handle, and frankly how boring they make riding. Definitely not going back to 29 again.
IMHO of course. 😁
Thanks for your comment. Elucidating!
After watching a dozen of these comparison videos, I have made my decision. I'm just gonna ride and stop splitting hairs. It seems that everyone needs a bike that throughout the course of one trail, you would need to switch your bike out about 5 times to get that perfect ride. So here's the philosophical concept of the day.
There is no perfect ride, jump, flow or climb. It's just you, and your bike, and a dream.
so do you ride 29er or 27.5
Yeah. I keep going down the rabbit hole of spending loads of money that I don't have but then I go out on my cheap 26er and have a fucking blast, my mate has just got a 29er and loves it and yeah, the whole bike is much nicer to ride than mine but still, we both have the same grin after a good ride!
I'm still riding an old Whyte E120XT with 26's and love it. Hate the 29's, would definitely go for 27.5.
26 ain't dead!
Still riding one.. 😂😂, knolly podium
@Southpaw i can feel the difference having big wheels (trying my friends bike) but 26ers just aint bad.. all you have to do is build skills then yeah you can still beat big wheels..😊😊
2012 SX trail checking in
You sure aren't gonna find a new adult trail bike in 26". #tombstone
My 2010 trek fuel still rock'n. Never let me down. It ain't dead.
I just went from 27,5 to scout 29 and I love it so much, bike fits me so much better and I have loads more confidents on everything
Hats off to the crew, amazing camera work, great content, well done guys.👍
3:28 It’s not the ‘centrifugal force’ of the large wheel but rather the gyroscopic rigidity, which is proportional to rpm, mass and radius.
...... right.
E = MC2 init
Was raging....so glad you left this comment. Saved my thumbs some work. Thanks!
Does rotational inertia and angular momentum mean the same thing? Cuz, it sounds like it, but i'm not a native speaker and am not sure
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you 2 know this is from a year ago right?
@@imthelastone thats why im commenting
For me personally 26" or 27.5" are a ton more fun. You can do a lot with it, feels a lot more agile although it can be a challenge!
Who cares about wheel size, tell us where this was filmed!
They better!
looks like my trail I made behind my house in Slovenia
@@MySkobi which part?
NOISIBOI i highly doubt it is Slovenia, but it looks like the part of Pohorje or Kum hill.
@@MySkobi when they are measuring their height that is an English pub.
I'm 6 ft 1,I still ride my old Kona King Kikapu 26 ain't dead!! But my preferred weapon is my Pace RC 127 27.5. The 29 just didn't feel quite like it fitted how I ride it comes down to personal preference I think.
Lord Darkhelmet nice i rode my 1999 kona king kikapu up til this year, finally got a modern bike. Santa cruz chameleon 27.5+.
@@edensgardenshed9622 I am really a hardtail warrior I also have a Kona Kula that has taken a back seat to my RC 127,did you keep the Kona?
Lord Darkhelmet yes i still have it. Considered selling just to get garage space but will probably regret it later. Any idea what it is worth? From TN in the US.
@@edensgardenshed9622 Keep it!
N+1!....always room for 1 more,you will definitely regret selling it,you won't get what its worth. I put mine on ebay but removed it after I had a bid,I couldn't go through with it.
I have just replaced the bearings and bushes it still rides nice.
Enjoy the new ride and take the old girl out every now and then.
Still riding my 2005 Kona Cinder Cone. I'd love to get something new but it has been such a great bike it's hard to part with. I'm in the process of "modernizing" it a bit.
29ers make trails accessible - that's fun! Personally, I want a short travel 26x2.4 with modern geo.
Female 5ft7 here, I ride a 29er which is perfect for long trail rides/riding up mountains but not so good for tricky technical stuff. In an ideal world I'd have one bike for each size.
Female 5'2" rider with a 27.5, and I heavily agree. I would be clown supreme if I used bigger tires for techy stuff (my favorite), but I am super jealous of those with 29er tires on longer rides. Especially if there are less technical roots/rocks, as the rollover power of a 29er cannot be ignored
damn those are huge, mine is only 7.5″
So Canyon needed a sales drive on their 29 range, o the marketing machine! Lolz 👀
I think they gambled to much with the strive only cf and 29. They already reduced the price but I think the salesfigures are still not that good.
Completely agree. This video seemed like a blatant "industry paid us to make a video to keep pushing the 29er propaganda". It's fairly transparent and everywhere these days. Kind of annoying. Usually these guys are reasonably impartial, which I've come to like.
Also agree. Not just GMBN, but I've noticed a few other sponsored bike bloggers "trying out" 29ers from their sponsors and half hearted attempts at making it sound like it's just as good as 27.5 (which it probably is, just not as fun).
hahaha so true, but i aint sitting at home doing nothing, bought myself my first 29er with that big discount. Great deal!!!
@@philmean5603 industry propaganda? Im sure 29er was before and 27.5 was created as money milking midstep between 26 and 29er. I have 29er from 2010 and love it.
I love 29 having changed from 27.5 last year. Personal preference but I feel for most riders who aren’t seriously good, the extra rolling speed and smoothness will overcome any of the marginal drawbacks and result in the best/fastest riding experience. Also speed = height in the jumps too and I find that I carry more speed and make trails flow better with the bigger wheels. Granted a better rider wouldn’t need the speed boost!
Great video guys! I’m gonna have to stay with 27.5 because I’m a kid just under 150cm tall. But some of those myths about 29ers I think are kind of ridiculous.
29" wheels,flat bars,single crankset,oh my! where're we going man?I love my 26" wheels with Ardent,my tripple crankset,i can do anything,my rise Answer bar
I don’t know guys, first Blake starts riding clipless, now he is enjoying the 29er? He was right on Neil’s heels in the presenter race and killed it at the mega! Free ride to racer convert? Haha love the content, keep up the good work 👍🏻 pretty soon Blake will be the fastest presenter on GMBN!
what up 26ers
Bushweed roles across the desert 🐪 🤣
Definitely felt like a advert I know it says paid promotion at the begining but come on
Went from 29 to 27.5 to 27.5+. Ignored my 29er for most of last season. Dusted it off this year and went for a ride. reminded me that 29ers are awesome and now I want to get rid of my plus bike and get a new FS 29er.
I'm getting a new bike in a week its my first proper bike that I've saved for all summer I've been riding a giant atx 2 but I was worried about getting the 29ers this video has really put me at ease thanks guys
26" is still the best. That always made me think that the bigger wheels are marketing gimmicks. To encourage people to upgrade. Happened all the time. The pros ride the 29" because their companies said they had to.
I'm of this thought too, the jump in price is ridiculous and bikes costing the same as some cars is just silly.
Bigger wheels will roll over obstacles easier, but is the weight penalty worth it? At bike parks with lifts sure, but otherwise maybe not.
Do u rly think the best guys in the world have nothing to say in terms of what bike they race on? Do u have anything u based that on? Cuz, rly sounds bs
26 all the way even for dh feel like I can really throw the bike around
Hell yeah. I still ride my 26er more than 27.5 and definitely more than my 29er. Really feel one with the bike and whip it around !!
Perfect for the potholes
@Thomas The Offroad Train Perfect for potholes
Bought my first bike in 18 years this weekend. It's a 2021 Trek Marlin 7 with 29 inch wheels. I'm 5'7" and it seems fine so far, especially on pavement. I did find the limits of the hardtail this weekend when I tried hitting some rocks at speed.
Still riding 26. Yet to try 27.5 or 29. I like being agile and being able to flick the bike around. When I am ready I will try both and see what I like. Prices have got out of hand IMHO for bikes today. I bought a used Yamaha R1 for less money than the top of the line bikes.
I just got into this sport and I rode sport bikes for 15 years.i can buy a sportbike for the same price.how does this make any sense.Why is it that anything people love as far of sports or Hobbys is always capitalized by big corporations and made unaffordable to family oriented men with a budget and need to get out of the house and get active.This is why most people in society never get a chance to experience this stuff and the sports community is still so small compared to what it could be because of inflated pricing.
I love my 29er Merida Vasa. I can ride super super fast!
1.) can we get like an hour-long montage of the guys riding? It’s always so mesmerizing 😆. 2.) I’m barely over 5’ and just upgraded my fork and wheelset, going from 27.5 to 29 and I absolutely love it. Took 2 seconds to get used to maneuvering the bigger wheel, but the rolling speed is so worth it! (Size S Trek Fuel full sus trail bike on a variety of eastern U.S. trails - it’s super versatile!) 3.) Isabeau Courdurier is just a smidge shorter than I am and even she is now riding (and winning everything!) on a 29er. Hard to argue that!
I'm the same height. My dh bike is a 26 but my enduro is a 27.5 was really thinking of switching to a 29 but never heard of any ladies running them around our height.
its already known cross country is faster on 29er, the debate is when ripping it up on the race trails not just a morning scroll.
they say in the vid that 29ers are supposed to be for tall people...everything I've read here in the comments, and my own experience, suggest that the opposite is true. i'm 6'1" and do just fine on my 2011 26" Specialised Hardrock.
Thanks! You guys made my day. Bought a 29er!
That was a fun to watch edit guys. "Run what you brung!"🤙🏽
I have 2 29er bikes... I love them... I will not give them up! HOWEVER... 🤔 Riding those big wheels makes me appreciate my 26er... I won't ever let that 26er go and I think I'll like 27.5. 👊🏾😐
27.5 forever !! This felt like a shameless ad for 29 sponsored by canyon... comon guys. I know for a fact Blake’s always gonna feel more comfortable on a 27.5 and same here. If you like playful and not just speed then it’s obvious. To each their own.
Have a 26” just got a 29’r delivered last night .. built and looking forward to the weekend
Good day, got a 29er, Loving it!!!
26" for ever
Blake: I prefer the name of 27.5. It just roles better of the young.
Niel: Well the 29er doesn't have the annoying .5 at the end.
Blake: Would you just shut up.
Great intro, Forget fancy commercials. First thing I did after watching The Mega, I went to NP's site and was greeted by the now probably "Legendary" status Hardtail.
It’s subjective for sure. I ride a Scott Genius and since I bought 29’s I haven’t really even thought much about my 27.5’s...Love the speed and confidence that you get from 29’s!!!
I'm still happy that I swapped my 29er into a 27.5 bike! :D
I ride a 29er atm, am considering selling/part exchanging for a bike with smaller wheels but I need to be sure... how has it helped you personally?
I'm still on a 26" wheel they may be slightly slower but feel way more agile to me,
My first bike was a 26 inch wheeled cx fs rig. Loved it. BUT when I rode 29ers it was all over for the 26er. It became an ornament until my son started riding it.
I just got my first mtb and I am 36 coming from a sportbike background d woth 15 years of riding.It is a marlin 6 29er hardtail and even though its entry level status I love it.I went ever buy a bike with smaller wheels.its a little hard to get used to jumping but the extra acceleration down hill is awesome.
Watching this while still owning a 26er dh bike
Me too!
I Rode 26" for Almost 2 years, now i'm riding 29er for Almost a year. There is no regret and no turn back to 26er... By the way, i'm just 164 cm tall.
Nice vid guys, makes me want to go out and ride!
Yep Orbea rallon m10 carbon full Enduro 29er amazing bike I have no problem with flow, technical stuff dh, n jumps 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
29ers always look weirdly huge, like a little kid riding an adult bike... Until I can't get 26 easily everywhere I'll stick with them.
I ride 29er I find it's great for climbing and drops, I'm really happy to see people are starting to love them
I’m very happy with my Specialized Stumpjumper ST 29er . Had 27.5 & don’t regret going to 29 👍
Average speed easy ride between 26 & 29?? Going to upgrade 29 carbon frame.. Now using 26 steel frame with average speed 15-17km/h easy ride
Directly after Launch beginning of the year I ordered a Strive CF 8.0. after the first ride i sent it straight back to canyon, since the bike was not very agile and fun to ride (at least for me. This bike is designed to race, not to play with). Also i exepected the shapeshifter to make more of a difference.
Couple of days later I bought a Spectral CF 9.0 and I‘m super happy with it. this bike is to me much more fun!
26” and I am not switching until they don’t make them anymore
Have you been bike shopping recently? I could not find any 26" options. Maybe at Walmart?
I reckon nows the time to stock up on spares before even they get expensive. A few years ago I bought a set of brand new SL Bombers from Chain reaction for $350 AUD - bargain.
Had to buy a new bike because i9 custom wheels cost almost as much as a good used bike are the only ones I can find to fit my 26”.... the market is very scarce now for 26
@@peterraffin2227 they are Already insanely expansive. Almost none left around.
I've just bought a 26er!
Thanks. You make me want to ride. And yes I have a 29er cross country bike.
So glad, I ordered my new Conway wem 529 as the 29” variant. The 27,5er felt like a dirt bike with a high saddle 😂
Next year, the new thing will be Penny Farthings! It’s an EMO bike with the 72 in front and a 12 in rear!
Love how Neal sometimes doesn't answer a question and just rides off
29ers are the best, i build up my Sentinel Enduro last Winter and was confident on it after the first run, i rode it on some local trails with some snow on them and noticed the grip. Later i got my 29er V10 DH bike for sure this thing is insane but i feel soo good on the big wheels, you roll over stuff so much easier and faster. You need to lean the bike more into corners and maybe be a little bit more active but soo good to ride love it
Started with a 27.5, then switched to HT 29er and much better quality bike, rode it for 5 years and just bought a FS 29er for riding much more tech rides. I think bike sizes, brands, etc. are subject to thousands of variables dependent on the person and trail conditions. What I have found is there are hundreds of options on bikes that make a difference and the goal is to find what fits the person and makes for a more enjoyable ride, after all that is why we do it! Bike therapy! Thanks for the vid!
29 front 27.5 back. Motorcycles have been doing this for years!
Also increases your rake so the front suspension can better absorb rough terrain.
Makes it easier to manual.
I’m sorry it seems we’ll have to wait another year or two for this (a good mullet) to arrive as the industry seems to be milking us on what’s already new this year, though mostly stuff irrelevant of geo like 12 speed and wireless.
But, the industry is also just further letting us get used to or, indoctrinating us into, slacker head angles and steeper seat tube angles before introducing us to “the new concept of an industry marketed 279er”. The 279er might not be new, but the marketed version would def be!
Yes but n/bikes that do that match up the geometry with massively different front and back tire sizes.
I will never give up my 26!
I love the spectral at the start
You guys are so cool and I love watching the two of you.
"You'll get used to it." is not better.
how's it not better
I ride 26 because I cant afford a new bike. It doesnt matter just ride what you love and love what you ride.
As someone who is just under 5 ft tall with a 26.5 inch inseam, I thought a 29 would be too big. But once I test rode the Pivot Switchblade Pro 29, I fell in love and bought one that day (of course it had to be ordered).
Great watching you two shred! Would love to see both of you doing A- line together or have I missed that one somewhere.
Every time I ride a 29, I feel like I'm driving my luxury car, and on the 27.5, I feel like I'm driving the M3. For mountain biking, I'll take the M3 over my Lincoln any day, no question.
E30?
Depends on the 29er.... plenty playful sporty 29ers in last year or 2, The Following by Evil being the ultimate sports car feel 29er.
As of 2100H (gmt+8), 08-08-19, there are 29 likes in your comment.
i have a 29er and its so lit
🤘👊
My regular bike is a giant trance 27.5 trail bike. I have tried 29er a few times. I didn't see much of an advantage except the confidence of marginally better in avoiding pedal strikes and better rolling over rocks and roots. To be honest, it doesn't really matter to me and I'm quite fine with 27.5. I'm changing my bike soon and picking up another giant trance 27.5 again!
I'm 5'7" I love my 29. Really fast, stable forgiving I could ride all day on it. It's a hardtail too. But I'm just a trail rider.
whats the music track at 5.08 to 6.11 boys ?? Thanks ;-)
On point - Flat Theory
@@Kayvoyager thanks Kay :-)
If anyone else has been looking through the track list in the info for the song at 5:06, well they didn't list it. Good job guys!
The song is On Point by Flat Theory.
I have both a 27.5 and a 29er I only rode the 29er briefly but love it can't wait for next bike season
Average speed easy ride between 26 & 29?? Going to upgrade 29 carbon frame.. Now using 26 steel frame with average speed 15-17km/h easy ride
God, Neil is so smooth, but in the air he is BEAST!
27.5 forever!
it's so sad you can't find anymore 26'er new bikes even for the entry models
And here i am, thinking about the 26“/24“ mullet DH bike a buddy used to own
Currently riding 26 and loving it.
29er has always felt too big for me i prefer 26 because you're lower to the ground and it feels like the bike is more planted
Noice one lads👌
Thanks AJ 👍
Always amazed by gmbn camera work
was put off 29ers when they first came out as the bikes looked dreadful.. but now i think they look great
I'm still riding a 27.5 Santa Cruz and i reckon i'll stick with it for the time being
Still a member of the 26 mob
still riding my 26"...
Recently bought a 27.5 after last riding 15years ago on 26”.
First ride on my 27 and the speed has made me want a 29er now
If you just ride normal forest roads maybe, but for a lot of riders (including myself) 27,5 is just the perfect spot for Trail riding. 29 don't handle as good and are a bit too big for normal sized people.
I've got an awesome YT Capra 29er in XXL. Its absolutely epic for trials and bike park riding. The only BIG downside is that it so long, (1.3 meter wheelbase), coupled with the big wheels, that it no longer fits the bike cradles on the back of the chairlifts in Les Gets/ Morzine, and you have wait for special, 'red', cradles on every 20th chair. But being 6'6" still has its advantages though.😎