You can run your AC during a outage. Look up micro-air ‘easy start’. Put one on my AC so can run off generator. It’s a soft start that cuts the start up current. Thanks for the video, Nice job.
Get a soft starter for your AC…you can install yourself. Then the powerwall can turn it on solo. Plenty on you tube videos for the install of the soft starter
As a Florida homeowner who installed solar two years ago, your decision to use Tesla was a good one. I used a third-party, who, as you say in the video, dissolved the company, and simply opened a new one. Therefore, I have no warranty. My setup is manufactured by Enphase. I ve replaced an electric circuit twice. Next house, I will definitely go with Tesla. The 3rd party installers are crooks!
8.5 is still small i was estimated for a 1600sq ft home id need approx 15.9kw system or maybe more so that little 8.5 seems very small for a typical home
I'm lucky enough to live where the electrical utility rates are low enough that my annual bill totals less than $1000 ($83/month). Solar panels aren't economically feasible, payback is too long. I can't imagine a monthly bill of over $500. Insane.
We're having the same issue. Our electric bill averages $220 a month. If we got solar, it would rocket up to $350, plus whatever grid costs would remain. We just can't justify the cost.
Dang 83 a month sounds amazing. We are socal and its between 750-$1k a month (summer months in the 1k.) Its insane these prices and socal edision normally goes up 10% a ywar but this year its 20% jump. Getting solar is the only thing that will help us.
Not sure what you guys are doing at home. Is someone tapping into your power grid? My elec. in summer is $300. and $200 in winter, cause I use gas to heat home. I'm stuck at home all day with A/C coming on most of the day. I run 4 monitors, 1 TV and 2 overclocked sucking energy PC's. Normal household appliances, every day the dishwasher, and about 2-3 days washing clothes. I live in the middle of CA. Solar energy is a joke. It's only feasible if your in your early 20's and your going to stay in that house forever. The panels are only 30% efficient. CA will only let you store up to a certain amount of battery backup. And then your making energy for the PGE and they actually pay you a lot less than what your creating. It's BS. Solar is really only good for if your off the grid. Or you just like to waste money. If I bought solar maybe for 25000. it would take 6 years to break even.
Great video as always. I learned a lot from Tesla but decided to go another route, their customer service was below average. There are a a few solid local contractors it just takes a while to find a good one but they are not at Home Depot or Costco.
But are you actually saving anything? The loan is costing almost as much as the previous electric bill, did I miss something. So to me this seems like a wash/waste.
In my location, I’m saving, but in your location, the cost of electricity could be cheaper, so it doesn’t make sense. So yes, you might be better off not getting it unless you want to be in total control and be off the grid.
Location and timing is a huge factor. I had solar installed on my home in New Jersey 5 years ago. I used the federal rebate to cancel my taxes that year. And in New Jersey, they have what's called Srecs. They pay me about 200 dollars for Megawatt of energy I produce. Combine that with the savings from utility bills, solar has been in extremely cost effective.
He is indeed saving a lot of money. If you look at @9:38 and reference his bills before the solar and power wall, he was paying an average of about $450/month. With his Loan at $250/month and his previous bills being only $10-$12 over the last 10 months, he is netting an average of $200/month. *These are not exact calculations, but if you would follow each trend for a 12 month period you would find my estimates fairly accurate. Therefore, if he or whoever owns this home and system pays it off in 8-9 years their savings will be well over $500/month. That savings is also being generous in saying electricity rates would only slightly increase each year. If they continue to rise like they have he would still be locked in to a guaranteed $250/month until its paid off and then his savings would be even greater. It’s a big commitment with a long term payoff for most, and it still doesn’t make sense for those with cheap rates. But for him, it’s already paying off since his loan is less than his pre-solar bills.
@@Taylorgoalie1 You have to factor in the interest rate as well since that is a loss of money each month over the life of the loan and by the time its paid for the tesla solar and power wall will prolly be 50% cheaper as he always drops prices, so all in all it looks to be a wash
Once it's paid off, it's free energy. If the system lasts 25 years and you pay off the loan in 10 you get 15 years free electricity. If you qualify for the 30% federal tax credit then that is cash in your pocket if you can sell the house with the cost of the system added.
Cool. Bought a model 3LR this year and working up my plans for a 20kw system. We only get a couple sunny days in December but the system can still put out over 1kw under the clouds, or 6kwh on the worst days if not covered by snow.
Great video and thanks! You have a special effect from 5:42 to 5:47 where an animated yellow dashed line shows the electric flow. Nice touch! Can you tell me how you did it? Thanks! Buck O'Connor
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I just have 2 months with Tesla ,24 solar panels but everyday my production is different even the sun is same, sometimes production is only 5kwh and my house consuming 9 to 10 kwh,but is producing always at night or early morning 4 am,I called to see if the reader is correct
Most Buyers won't assume the loan and it's actually a detriment to selling your house at least in my market. Maybe in a sellers market but not in a normal market
@@jonrogers7995 when people try and sale a house that has solar on it they try to get the buyers to assume the loan, which may have worked in 2021 and 2022, it ain’t working now, those houses are sitting, what will happen most likely for most is they will have to pay off the loan with the proceeds of the sale so the new owners is clear,
That's our concern, too. If a buyer says, "No. We don't want the extra expense (especially in today's Bidenomics)," we've lost a sale. That's a big deal.
Looking back do you think you needed 2 power walls ? For a larger order sometimes it’s saying I need 2 power walls .. I just saw you said you needed two for the a/c but is there any other reason to get 2 power walls
So you are in Dublin CA? I just moved to Sunnyvale and oh boy electricity is darn expensive!! Coming from Quebec, Canada where it was 8 cents per kW. 😆 I am looking for power wall 3 and get second hand solarpanels.
Not everyone has $30k to drop for solar and not have the monthly bill. But if your talking about his pg&e bill its vecause they charge you to be connected to the grid still. You cant ever escape that. Even if you dont use any electricity from pge you still have that "connected" charge. So $10-$15 every month for nothing.
One thing I hate about all these Solar Videos is people saying "Oh, I now I pay only 10 dollars for electric", but, Bruh....you still pay the payment for the solar system, unless you bought it outright, north of 30 RACKS....
Even if your payment plan until paid off is more expensive than the utilities themselves, you have a great hedge against inflation a and/or an energy crisis which would make your monthly bills way more expensive. Anything to not rely on government controlled entities is worth it in my opinion.
Hello. Great video. Ran into your video while re-researching charging issue with my Brand New Solar Panel system which installed on last week. Unfortunately, my solar system won't automatically start collecting energy in the morning. But if I manually reset (turn off and back on) the emergency shut off box and button from the side, solar will starts capturing to battery. Contacted several teams from tesla, waiting for response. So frustrating... Anyway, thank you for your video. Very informative!
Very informative and well presented, well worth the time spent watching your content. Well done, great investment. Well done to Tesla as well apart from the customer service process standards. That really needs a refocus to support the brand.
Great video! I've been trying to calculate how many panels I'd need to charge an EV (probably a Rivian). I'm not clear on how many panels you have. You mentioned "Eighty-five hundred Kilowatts". I believe you meant to say 8.5KW (eight thousand five hundred "watts"). I see your Solar System print out showing 8.5Kw DC. This is promising, actually! I have 10 350w panels, so that gives me 3.5Kw DC. When I ChatGPT how much I'd need, I'm nowhere close. Is it because you have the battery to store? I have room for 4 more panels, though they would face west compared to the others facing south. Also, my understanding is that in a power outage (blackout), it is dangerous to send power to the grid, as PG&E could be working on a live line! You can bypass the grid during the day and have the panels active still though. Do I have that right?
Question, will the Grid allow a 30yr old roof stay connected to the Grid....or will they require you to maintain and replace all the parts as they age?
4:02 8.5kW= 8.5 x 1000=8500 watts or 8.5kW. 1 billion watts in 1 GW. (And if you wanted to break it down even further, 1 million watts = 1 megawatt [MW] and 1,000 watts = 1 kilowatt [kW].)
wait, why is it a GOOD selling point to saddle someone who wants to buy the home with an 8 year loan. I know solar increases value, but won't it lower the number of people who are likely to want to buy the home? I certainly wouldn't buy a house that has an 8 year loan against it that I HAVE to pay from the previous homeowners decisions.
There are no concerns because it’s always negotiable. I can pay it off if requested during negotiations, or they can include it in the mortgage or split the payout. Alternatively, they can choose to continue the payment. Considering the entire city averages $500 a month on power without solar.
Have you heard about the Tesla power buy back program. You can now produce cash flow with your system. Thanks for the great update on your system, it was very helpful.
If you see this and haven't considered it.. you should be able to either replace your soft start or add a soft start to your AC unit... If nothing else you could put in a 12000 BTU Inverter HeatPump Direct Solar Mini Split... you can purchase them for around 6 to 800 and get them inn the precharged .. setup for easy fast no certified HVAC required.. no vacuum required etc.. they can run directly off your solar and ... they sip power .. super low amp draw.. Great for your kitchen living area.. if you had a black out.. yes they do have heat as well.. they are heatpump AC/Heaters..
I've had a similar experience...10.2kW panels with 2 powerwalls in Irvine, CA...... Installed May 2023.... In my opinion, Tesla is the safest way to go, hopefully they will still be in business in 25 years.... If anything is certain its that electricity rates and gasoline prices will continue to skyrocket in CA.... it's crazy.... I now feel a little more insulated from our idiotic state politicians.....
If you really were listening, he's not on his forever home. This is a long term investment, which is essentially paying for itself while he's in the house. resale value will be markedly increased. Plus Federal tax credit lowered his cost 26%. And if you care about the environment it's ONLY winning.
Today Tesla offered me the opportunity to join its Virtual Power Plant to use my three Powerwalls in the next few months to earn (up to) ~$1,100. Each year SDGE pays me ~ 3 cents per kilowatt hour of my substantial excess production. I suspect Tesla will pay a bit more. I bet other viewers would appreciate your opinion on which is the best option. Care to opine, or make a video to explain these options?
We have been waffling back and forth regarding solar power because 1) our provider won't buy back electricity and 2) the payment for the solar panels comes out to the same amount we're paying for electricity, except that we'd be stuck with a banl loan with interest. This was a phenomenal review and it gives us great information. But, we're still struggling with the cost. Our electric bill is currently (September, 2023) around $220 per month. If we get solar panels, our electricity "cost" would actually increase. Potentially, for 15 years. That's a tough choice to make.
I wonder if you could undersize the system OR perhaps have another powerwall so that you don't feed any back into the system. I've also wondered if it would be possible to set up a system so that you can actually disconnect the house from the power grid completely. Though my understanding is that in some jurisdictions they won't actually let you do that. Crazy. But yea it is hard to get the numbers to work out I think.
You can always just diy kinda thing. On my offerup there is a ton of solar panels new and used for sale. Just throw up a couple and pay for the licensed electrician to set up to the house and your set and youll only pay $500-$1kish for a few panels and wires and youll probably save $50-$100 a month depending on how many panels you buy/ wattage of the panels.
You can run your AC during a outage. Look up micro-air ‘easy start’. Put one on my AC so can run off generator. It’s a soft start that cuts the start up current. Thanks for the video, Nice job.
Get a soft starter for your AC…you can install yourself. Then the powerwall can turn it on solo. Plenty on you tube videos for the install of the soft starter
As a Florida homeowner who installed solar two years ago, your decision to use Tesla was a good one. I used a third-party, who, as you say in the video, dissolved the company, and simply opened a new one. Therefore, I have no warranty. My setup is manufactured by Enphase. I ve replaced an electric circuit twice. Next house, I will definitely go with Tesla. The 3rd party installers are crooks!
Good to know!
lol, Tesla are probably the largest crooks.
around 11:00 u said 8500 kW lol u mean 8.5kW system.. 8500kW you'd be powering the whole neighborhood and more
It's clearly a dot and not a comma. It's an 8.5kW system. Adding more zeroes does nothing.
8.5 is still small i was estimated for a 1600sq ft home id need approx 15.9kw system or maybe more so that little 8.5 seems very small for a typical home
Buy a soft start for your AC. It will lower the amps it needs to turn on, and it will start up smoother. Look up the ICM870
I'm lucky enough to live where the electrical utility rates are low enough that my annual bill totals less than $1000 ($83/month). Solar panels aren't economically feasible, payback is too long. I can't imagine a monthly bill of over $500. Insane.
We're having the same issue. Our electric bill averages $220 a month. If we got solar, it would rocket up to $350, plus whatever grid costs would remain. We just can't justify the cost.
Dang 83 a month sounds amazing. We are socal and its between 750-$1k a month (summer months in the 1k.)
Its insane these prices and socal edision normally goes up 10% a ywar but this year its 20% jump.
Getting solar is the only thing that will help us.
Not sure what you guys are doing at home. Is someone tapping into your power grid? My elec. in summer is $300. and $200 in winter, cause I use gas to heat home. I'm stuck at home all day with A/C coming on most of the day. I run 4 monitors, 1 TV and 2 overclocked sucking energy PC's. Normal household appliances, every day the dishwasher, and about 2-3 days washing clothes. I live in the middle of CA. Solar energy is a joke. It's only feasible if your in your early 20's and your going to stay in that house forever. The panels are only 30% efficient. CA will only let you store up to a certain amount of battery backup. And then your making energy for the PGE and they actually pay you a lot less than what your creating. It's BS. Solar is really only good for if your off the grid. Or you just like to waste money. If I bought solar maybe for 25000. it would take 6 years to break even.
Great video as always. I learned a lot from Tesla but decided to go another route, their customer service was below average. There are a a few solid local contractors it just takes a while to find a good one but they are not at Home Depot or Costco.
But are you actually saving anything? The loan is costing almost as much as the previous electric bill, did I miss something. So to me this seems like a wash/waste.
In my location, I’m saving, but in your location, the cost of electricity could be cheaper, so it doesn’t make sense. So yes, you might be better off not getting it unless you want to be in total control and be off the grid.
Location and timing is a huge factor. I had solar installed on my home in New Jersey 5 years ago. I used the federal rebate to cancel my taxes that year. And in New Jersey, they have what's called Srecs. They pay me about 200 dollars for Megawatt of energy I produce. Combine that with the savings from utility bills, solar has been in extremely cost effective.
He is indeed saving a lot of money. If you look at @9:38 and reference his bills before the solar and power wall, he was paying an average of about $450/month. With his Loan at $250/month and his previous bills being only $10-$12 over the last 10 months, he is netting an average of $200/month. *These are not exact calculations, but if you would follow each trend for a 12 month period you would find my estimates fairly accurate.
Therefore, if he or whoever owns this home and system pays it off in 8-9 years their savings will be well over $500/month. That savings is also being generous in saying electricity rates would only slightly increase each year. If they continue to rise like they have he would still be locked in to a guaranteed $250/month until its paid off and then his savings would be even greater. It’s a big commitment with a long term payoff for most, and it still doesn’t make sense for those with cheap rates. But for him, it’s already paying off since his loan is less than his pre-solar bills.
@@Taylorgoalie1 You have to factor in the interest rate as well since that is a loss of money each month over the life of the loan and by the time its paid for the tesla solar and power wall will prolly be 50% cheaper as he always drops prices, so all in all it looks to be a wash
Once it's paid off, it's free energy. If the system lasts 25 years and you pay off the loan in 10 you get 15 years free electricity. If you qualify for the 30% federal tax credit then that is cash in your pocket if you can sell the house with the cost of the system added.
Cool.
Bought a model 3LR this year and working up my plans for a 20kw system.
We only get a couple sunny days in December but the system can still put out over 1kw under the clouds, or 6kwh on the worst days if not covered by snow.
Great video and thanks! You have a special effect from 5:42 to 5:47 where an animated yellow dashed line shows the electric flow. Nice touch! Can you tell me how you did it? Thanks! Buck O'Connor
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I just have 2 months with Tesla ,24 solar panels but everyday my production is different even the sun is same, sometimes production is only 5kwh and my house consuming 9 to 10 kwh,but is producing always at night or early morning 4 am,I called to see if the reader is correct
Most Buyers won't assume the loan and it's actually a detriment to selling your house at least in my market. Maybe in a sellers market but not in a normal market
What? That’s like saying some will buy it. Lol
@@jonrogers7995 when people try and sale a house that has solar on it they try to get the buyers to assume the loan, which may have worked in 2021 and 2022, it ain’t working now, those houses are sitting, what will happen most likely for most is they will have to pay off the loan with the proceeds of the sale so the new owners is clear,
That's our concern, too. If a buyer says, "No. We don't want the extra expense (especially in today's Bidenomics)," we've lost a sale. That's a big deal.
What kind of inverters did Tesla install?
Savings are incredible. We paid off our solar after three years as we have two EVs and super high electric bills.
How old was the roof that you got electricity on?
Do you have a TOU electric tariff with your electric company?
Looking back do you think you needed 2 power walls ? For a larger order sometimes it’s saying I need 2 power walls .. I just saw you said you needed two for the a/c but is there any other reason to get 2 power walls
why did you keep pressing the button on the charger when you plugged it in the car?
So you are in Dublin CA? I just moved to Sunnyvale and oh boy electricity is darn expensive!! Coming from Quebec, Canada where it was 8 cents per kW. 😆 I am looking for power wall 3 and get second hand solarpanels.
Do you need a permit from the City??? Thanks
Y do you have to pay monthly if installation is completed? What's the point, to go on Tesla grid?
Not everyone has $30k to drop for solar and not have the monthly bill.
But if your talking about his pg&e bill its vecause they charge you to be connected to the grid still. You cant ever escape that. Even if you dont use any electricity from pge you still have that "connected" charge. So $10-$15 every month for nothing.
One thing I hate about all these Solar Videos is people saying "Oh, I now I pay only 10 dollars for electric", but, Bruh....you still pay the payment for the solar system, unless you bought it outright, north of 30 RACKS....
Even if your payment plan until paid off is more expensive than the utilities themselves, you have a great hedge against inflation a and/or an energy crisis which would make your monthly bills way more expensive. Anything to not rely on government controlled entities is worth it in my opinion.
Hello. Great video. Ran into your video while re-researching charging issue with my Brand New Solar Panel system which installed on last week. Unfortunately, my solar system won't automatically start collecting energy in the morning. But if I manually reset (turn off and back on) the emergency shut off box and button from the side, solar will starts capturing to battery. Contacted several teams from tesla, waiting for response. So frustrating... Anyway, thank you for your video. Very informative!
Very informative and well presented, well worth the time spent watching your content. Well done, great investment. Well done to Tesla as well apart from the customer service process standards. That really needs a refocus to support the brand.
Dog mess in yard was minging! 😂
Great video! I've been trying to calculate how many panels I'd need to charge an EV (probably a Rivian). I'm not clear on how many panels you have. You mentioned "Eighty-five hundred Kilowatts". I believe you meant to say 8.5KW (eight thousand five hundred "watts"). I see your Solar System print out showing 8.5Kw DC. This is promising, actually! I have 10 350w panels, so that gives me 3.5Kw DC. When I ChatGPT how much I'd need, I'm nowhere close. Is it because you have the battery to store? I have room for 4 more panels, though they would face west compared to the others facing south. Also, my understanding is that in a power outage (blackout), it is dangerous to send power to the grid, as PG&E could be working on a live line! You can bypass the grid during the day and have the panels active still though. Do I have that right?
u are still paying for the system which is about $250 a month plus your $12 so $260 a month for energy
the camera at the end, was that the MKBHD backed camera?
Do you need to cool the tesla power wall ?
Question, will the Grid allow a 30yr old roof stay connected to the Grid....or will they require you to maintain and replace all the parts as they age?
Hate to say it, but all these homeowners becoming Power Generators to the Grid are gonna get a wake up call.
meaning? @@SarahStuff-p5u
4:02 8.5kW= 8.5 x 1000=8500 watts or 8.5kW.
1 billion watts in 1 GW. (And if you wanted to break it down even further, 1 million watts = 1 megawatt [MW] and 1,000 watts = 1 kilowatt [kW].)
Just found your channel. Excellent video.
wait, why is it a GOOD selling point to saddle someone who wants to buy the home with an 8 year loan. I know solar increases value, but won't it lower the number of people who are likely to want to buy the home? I certainly wouldn't buy a house that has an 8 year loan against it that I HAVE to pay from the previous homeowners decisions.
There are no concerns because it’s always negotiable. I can pay it off if requested during negotiations, or they can include it in the mortgage or split the payout. Alternatively, they can choose to continue the payment. Considering the entire city averages $500 a month on power without solar.
@@HotshotTek the man has a plan!
google soft start for your hvac...
I had no idea what soft start was until nice people on the Internet told me and don’t worry I already have it installed. No need to be Moody. 😂
Could have always just said look up soft starts. They will help you on the long run for HVAC.
@@HotshotTek who's being moody?
Have you heard about the Tesla power buy back program. You can now produce cash flow with your system. Thanks for the great update on your system, it was very helpful.
Wait, what happens if the new Home buyer decides NOT to take over the loan for the panels?? (Guessing 80%+ wouldn’t)
If you see this and haven't considered it.. you should be able to either replace your soft start or add a soft start to your AC unit... If nothing else you could put in a 12000 BTU Inverter HeatPump Direct Solar Mini Split... you can purchase them for around 6 to 800 and get them inn the precharged .. setup for easy fast no certified HVAC required.. no vacuum required etc.. they can run directly off your solar and ... they sip power .. super low amp draw.. Great for your kitchen living area.. if you had a black out.. yes they do have heat as well.. they are heatpump AC/Heaters..
I've had a similar experience...10.2kW panels with 2 powerwalls in Irvine, CA...... Installed May 2023.... In my opinion, Tesla is the safest way to go, hopefully they will still be in business in 25 years.... If anything is certain its that electricity rates and gasoline prices will continue to skyrocket in CA.... it's crazy.... I now feel a little more insulated from our idiotic state politicians.....
If you really were listening, he's not on his forever home. This is a long term investment, which is essentially paying for itself while he's in the house. resale value will be markedly increased. Plus Federal tax credit lowered his cost 26%. And if you care about the environment it's ONLY winning.
@@prisvizbay6913 sounds like someone broke with no vision for what could be a better future. Good luck with that.
What is that, about 3200SqFt. ⚡️bill was $500/Mo. in NorCal? I have 3500, we hit about $370max. No kids, makes huge difference.
Today Tesla offered me the opportunity to join its Virtual Power Plant to use my three Powerwalls in the next few months to earn (up to) ~$1,100. Each year SDGE pays me ~ 3 cents per kilowatt hour of my substantial excess production. I suspect Tesla will pay a bit more. I bet other viewers would appreciate your opinion on which is the best option. Care to opine, or make a video to explain these options?
It looks those were solar panels installed on a clay tile roof??? Everyone says NOT to do that because the solar panels can damage the tiles.
Just takes a knowledgable installer.
8500w or 8.5kw
It’s 8.5 kilowatts…. Not a typo…
A hundred kW battery?
Upd: Oh, you're probably talking about the battery in your car, not the Tesla Wall.
We have been waffling back and forth regarding solar power because 1) our provider won't buy back electricity and 2) the payment for the solar panels comes out to the same amount we're paying for electricity, except that we'd be stuck with a banl loan with interest. This was a phenomenal review and it gives us great information. But, we're still struggling with the cost. Our electric bill is currently (September, 2023) around $220 per month. If we get solar panels, our electricity "cost" would actually increase. Potentially, for 15 years. That's a tough choice to make.
I wonder if you could undersize the system OR perhaps have another powerwall so that you don't feed any back into the system. I've also wondered if it would be possible to set up a system so that you can actually disconnect the house from the power grid completely. Though my understanding is that in some jurisdictions they won't actually let you do that. Crazy. But yea it is hard to get the numbers to work out I think.
You can always just diy kinda thing. On my offerup there is a ton of solar panels new and used for sale. Just throw up a couple and pay for the licensed electrician to set up to the house and your set and youll only pay $500-$1kish for a few panels and wires and youll probably save $50-$100 a month depending on how many panels you buy/ wattage of the panels.
Tesla should finance all their products to sell more 0% interest
You mentioned that we need to pay for labor costs in case of a warranty claim. But the text on the website says otherwise