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- The 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI Clean Diesel (yep, that's its official name) is the first diesel-powered new car to be certified for sale across the entire U.S. - including California and the four states that piggyback their emissions regulations on the Golden State since they all turned up their tailpipe-sniffing noses at everyone else in 2006.
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I bought one, during the test drive I started out in second gear...no problems, shifted into 6th and went up a hill no problems no pinging knocking or noise. its comfy and i actually had to move the seat foreward to drive it. Im 6 foot 2. Its a good overall car, and the mileage and the tax break doesnt hurt. It looks nice and drives great. Alot of fun. I would recomend this car to anyone who needs a daily driver or car for long distance trips
So far I love this car. I have the TDI Sportwagen with about 2400 miles on it so far. I just came back from a New York to Indiana road trip and averaged about 33-34 miles per gallon (that's U.S. gallons) highway. That is on an engine that is not fully broken in and I averaged about 75 to 80 mph on that trip. Considering also that the car was stuffed with luggage and everything we needed for our 10 month old I am very happy with it. You can't go wrong with it.
I have one, and oh boy, I cannot say nothing but beauty from the jetta. it got everything! its low consuming low polluting and incredibly safe, not to mention the fun to drive it. I fully recommend it
The Audi A3 is a great looking car and it is a contender in this year's LA Times green car of the year award. Last year, the VW Jetta TDI won the award with their new clean diesel 2.0 liter engine.
This year, the TDI powered Audi and the VW Golf TDI are contenders, so I'm happy that two 2.O TDI engine powered cars in the race as like I said earlier, I went with a TDI Jetta today and signed a contract. This is after 25 happy years with Toyota and TMMC, both have been very good to me.
My Dad has one - the diesel is the quietest diesel I have ever had trouble hearing. The engine doesn't knock and runs smoothly. It also had pounds of low end torque giving it great performance without racing the engine.
This looks like a great car. If I was in the market for a new car this would definitely be on my short list.
Wow!! It's the first time for me to hear a complement from insideline,,, it has to be a great car
Very very underrated car.
I was never trying to get you to change your mind about the Jetta. I was just trying to get you to see that Hybrids are just as good on gas as diesels. You guys see this as a competition of who can get the most mpg. I saw a video where the Jetta & Prius drove to see which could get further on a tank of fuel. Prius ran out at 579 miles, while the jetta ran out at 733. Jetta people in the video were like we won!! So go ahead and enjoy your Jetta, because I could really careless about what you buy.
I'm not waiting for anything, I already own two of the most dependable cars on that list. I bought these cars brand new in 2006 and 2007 and I had an idea that they were dependable but did not know that they were the best at not braking. When I was younger I didn't know much about cars and just liked them depending on how fast they were and how they looked. I ended up having large repair bills, because most automakers don't put a premium on dependability.
the DGS gear box it's not jerky at all,what you guys noticed is the turbo lag while in low revs below the 1200 rpm's or in very low speeds because it shifts the gears in order to maintain good fuel economy, but all this is not a problem because with the DSG you have the driving mode, the sports mode and manual mode. I guess it's just a matter of getting used to drive a DSG and knowing the car.
You're correct, I have a 99 Camry 4cyl with 233,xxx miles and it still gets at least 32 mpg. I'm using synthetic and I commute 3.5 hours one way to work on monday and 3.5 hours home on friday.
If a car company needs a test bed driver, let me know, I put the commuter miles on.
31-41 mpg 0-60 8.9-9.5 secs. Sweet. Very good fuel economy with still pretty good acceleration. Nice combo, this car should be more reconized.
One of my friends drives one of these, its very nice; I like it.
I just bought one. It just seemed like alot more for the money than other cars in its class. Fun to drive! Only bad things is, I find myself going on 200 miles trips everyday just so I can drive the car =P
Fast Fact
In the month of Oct. 2009, the VW Jetta TDI sold 1,839 units. In that same period of time, the Toyota Prius sold 14,569 units.
Sorry to hear about your bad luck. We've had a 2001 and 2003 and we've never had any serious problems
For some cars like the RX8, and E36 M3 the auto kills prices by thousands of dollars, and I've used manuals in freeway gridlock without a care. It is true that autos will slowly get better, but there is still no substitute for a perfect heel-toe downshift. It just feels right.
Thank you VW for the lovely Jetta. Hope they are also able to make available the fantastic new Golf with the 70mpg Diesel.
Deisel is makes so much more sense than hybrids. Good fuel economy, costs less, cheaper to maintain, better performance.
I applaud the wave of turbo diesels finally making it to US shores. I am holding out for the Subaru turbo diesel...AWD in a flat four boxer configuration. Awesome!
In the past, I would drive 50,000 miles a year and I have driven just about every car that is sold in the U.S.
I never understood people who can't use a manual, it's as easy as breathing to me, and manuals are still cheaper, more fun, lighter, more economical, and usually faster than the auto, and always faster in the twisties due to better torque control to the wheels. Standard shift is simply the best.
I own this car and many previous WVs before it.
All of them have made it to 250k without any issues.
Other then the standard things you need to change like the timing belt and such.
I commute one way on monday and back home on friday.
I used to commute two hours a day times three day days a week for the same company doing a similar job, so 7 hours a week is only one more hour, but i'm only home on the weekends now.
why not bring the dizel golf to US too?
Toyota states not one Prius has required a battery replacement due to malfunction or "wearing out." Toyota further states that the (NiMH) battery packs used in all Prius models are expected to last the life of the car. Supporting this are first- and second-generation Prius taxis in Canada that have reportedly traveled more than 200,000 miles without suffering any battery problems. As for the sweet sound... Well most of the time the Prius doesn't make any sound, since the engine is usually off!
If you drive a lot in the city, definitely go for a Prius, otherwise, a Honda Fit or a Mini Cooper would be more fun to drive and end up just as expensive to buy/run/resell as a Prius over a 4-5 years period. There are reasons why Honda, BMW and VW can still sell millions of fuel efficient gas/diesel cars, but at the same time, making them really fun to drive.
I'm just learning about diesel cars, I just did the deal on a TDI Jetta, I should be picking it up next Saturday.
How is the diesel fuel better in Europe? From what little I know, it seems like the Europeans have been dealing with diesel engines for a long time and have a lot of skill at this.
Because they did get better. Like I said I don't hate.
There are a lot of people lying about anything and everything on youtube, just to try and make their point.
I like to be different then other people. If I say something is bad and then find out later that it has improved, I will say it has improved. It doesn't hurt to tell the truth. At least not to me it doesn't.
Other people could care less about the truth, they just want to make something look bad, becasue they don't like it.
@braydenmartindale
MPG Wars
City
Prius - 47.2 MPG
Honda Insight - 44.1 MPG
Jetta - 41.2 MPG
Ford Fusion - 39.6 MPG
Mini Cooper - 38.5 MPG
Back roads
Prius - 48.7 MPG
Honda Insight - 43.4 MPG
Ford Fusion - 35.1 MPG
Jetta - 31.6 MPG
Mini Cooper - 30.1 MPG
Highway
Prius - 47.4 MPG
Jetta - 40.6 MPG
Honda Insight - 38.6 MPG
Ford Fusion - 36.0 MPG
Mini Cooper - 33.3 MPG
Combined
City
Prius - 47.6 MPG
Honda Insight - 42.3 MPG
Jetta - 38.1 MPG
Ford Fusion - 37.3 MPG
Mini Cooper - 33.3 MPG
Two years ago I got my wife that Prius and she loves it. If I would have got her that Jetta she would not have features like Bluetooth, Keyless entry, 500watts DSP 6disc sound system, VSA and more. She also would be paying $1 per gallon. I don't know what you guys call fun these days but they both suck as far as performance gos.I mean really, both do 0-60 in about 10sec, 1/4 mile in 16 something and have a slalom time of 64 mph. She gets 57mpg every tank and pays $1 less per gallon to do it.
I'm getting 37 mpg in aggressive around town driving and you can find diesel for cheaper than 87 octane. I paid $2.18 just yesterday.
@tyboy2400
The 50MPG models were 90HP, the new one is 140HP. So its not as bad as it seems. I suspect the EPA crap on the cars has reduced the MPG too not to mention making everything more complicated under the hood. I have heard that if you drive these new cars carefully you can still get high 40's MPG. It's easy to put your foot in the throttle when it has more power.
The older Jetta TDI was rated at 51 MPG highway - anyone think that we'll see those high numbers out of this one? I kind of doubt it. The high 40's for the highway though (since VW claims better economy) would be a very nice trick up it's sleeve.
Hi! Im from europe, were the most of the cars are runnig on diesel. And one thing i can sure to u. Its a very good choice if u want a economic and ecologic car. On VW u can get a very good and reliable TDI engines with good torque and HP. And can even be more eco than the hybrid cars! Go to a VW seller to have a test drive or try to get more info, about TDI, in an european VW website.
it runs great, the TDI JEtta wagon, but if you drive at 140km/h and pass alot, it only gets 740km to the tank.... i like it, but the Yaris is actually better on gas when i drive it hard
They all use very little gas! Pick the one you like the best, and don't hate the rest!City/Hwy/Combined
Prius 2010 - 51/48/50
Prius 2004 - 48/45/46
Insight 2010 - 40/43/41
HS 250 2010- 35/34/35
Jetta Tdi 2010- 30/42/34
RX 450h 2010- 32/28/30
Be happy with the car you have. Don't hate the car you don't have.
Remember what I said?
They all use very little gas! Pick the one you like the best, and don't hate the rest!
Regardless, It went into production and was available to the public. But this still has nothing to do with what I was discussing, so I have no idea why your digging into it so much.
My point was that a Hybrid will never deliver the performance/quality drive of a diesel powered car. They have diesels in Europe making 70+mpg. No matter how you drive them.
Hybrids aren't the answer to saving money on fuel, More efficient engines and alternate fuels are.
While it is a 11.9 gallon tank, you can't put more then 9.5 gallons in it. I have run it do to empty with the last bar blinking the hole day and the most it took was 9.5 gallons to fill it. On the east coast of America 87 gas is $1.89 and Diesel is $2.83. You are right you get around 45mpg in the winter while in the summer you get 55+. The Prius gos 108mph which is fast enough. Like I have said before it is my wife's car. Both Prius and Jetta are to slow for my taste but both are great on gas.
i own an 06 tdi. its 0-60 time was rated at 11.5 seconds...i had it chipped, and split that in half. 0-60 in about 6 seconds. and i still get 45-50mpg
Thank you for the thumbs up guys. Their are people who still know what diesel engines should be like. Emmissions free, loud, smelly, and smokers.
Toyota Prius - 15,000 sold Oct. 2009
VW Jetta TDI - 1,800 sold Oct. 2009
The only major thing the Prius has that is not available on the Jetta is full automatic climate control as STANDARD. The Jetta TDI? Oh, VW decided not to offer Climatronic on the TDI (for the North American market) , so you get the same 3 knob semi-automatic Climatic system that's on the old Golf.
exactly, and the opinion of the majority is that the jetta is "better." i'm not trying to argue, i'm just saying, this is why people "seem to like it more."
besides, 1 second usually means a lot :P
The best way to go green is to take public transit or ride your bicycle, since I can't use my bicycle for work, after comparing Prius and VW TDi for months and verifiying with their 2010 models, I went for the Golf Wagon TDI, with manual 6 speed. Although the Prius is technically a superior car, I just can't stand Toyota's toy looking interior. There really is a big gap between Toyota and Lexus but I find the 2010 Golf with the Audi style new dashboard has pretty decent interior.
i'm referring to your comment where you said in JD Power, they said VW is getting better but then in another repeated post, you takl about how VW is on the bottom of the list.
I like Jetta, but I like they to make also another Version, like a Golf MKVI GTi the lights from 2010.. and also bumpers. this one also good too this one of old version.
@dogyouare actually i believe the newest tdi is 4 valves per cylinder which makes it a 16 valve instead of an 8 valve
I don't know...I only drove it once and it felt jerky...but you can read the same thing in many professional reviews. Whatever the cause it should be fixed. The car is awesome...I bought the manual and love it.
amen! plus, replacing the battery for a hybrid can cost up to ten thousand dollars!!
I know you were kidding. But what I was saying is true.
The Prius is not a "toy car". People will say the Prius is slow and can't handle, but the reality is the Jetta TDI is only 1 sec faster and has the same slalom time of 65mph in the cones. To me they offer little "performance". Young people seem to like the Jetta more because it's torque and has a tight suspension, while the Prius has a smooth engine set up with a soft ride. They are both good cars but VW people hate for no reason.
Ripper must be a Toyota lover! Good luck pickn up a date in a Prius. He must not take into account the sales for the TDI Jetta in Europe to so then we will see who takes the lead.
I think I may still go with an Acura TSX.
It will get about low 30mpg's at freeway speeds, and I don't have to worry about replacing a $1600 battery at 175,000 miles.
@EpicXXProductions
Iron and steel can be refined without creating a miles wide dead zone around the refinery. Take a look at the production of nickel-cadmium batteries.
yes! i have a 1999 jetta all mexican all Genuine German parts build in the Favulous Mexico!
I don't like small cars, but she does. I don't dislike ether car, for me to buy one for myself would be a major step down for me. You must always buy what YOU want, not what everyone else likes. I could really careless what you or anybody else buys. Its your money...
@mlg779 Before commenting ensure it makes proper sense.
That THINg wobbles like it's made of cardboard if it's slightly windy, and anything other than clean, dry pavement it's actually scary driving the thing.
I found a huge difference between the Prius and my 20k Jetta TDI, and a big difference between the Prius and my $70000 Land Rover. The Jetta costs less than the Prius, gets almost the same MPG except it sips diesel which costs almost a dollar less per gallon where I live.
The Prius and the Jetta have the same slalom speed of 64mph and the same 1/4 time of 16 sec.
VillejeanRyder35, according to your profile you're 17 and you're telling me you already graduated as a mechanic? Right...
Also the cylinder head/coolant leaking problem was caused by a bad and early batch in 2003 or so, it has been fixed AGES ago.
And cooling down the turbo is only needed for older cars and when using non-synthetic oil. 10 minutes is WAY overkill anyway.
City/Hwy/Combined
Prius 2010 - 51/48/50
Prius 2004 - 48/45/46
Insight 2010 - 40/43/41
Jetta Tdi 2009 - 29/40/33
RX 450h 2010- 32/28/30
I would SO much rather have the wagon version of this car over the sedan.
They were all tested the same way, not just the TDI. All the cars on that list can get higher ratings if the driver tries to. The point of having these cars, is that you shouldn't have to worry about driving like an old lady to save money on gas. Sure it's fun to see how high you can get the mpg, but it only cost $25 to fill a Prius and my wife can drive 500+ miles. By the way, the Prius has an electric A/C, so we can run it all we want, with no loss of power or mpg. 54mpg over the last 6K miles
Who are you going to believe, "a bunch people and friends" or JDPower, who have been studying and testing cars since before you were born?
@mlg779 The Jetta TDI starts at $22,900 and the Prius starts at $23,500.
The Jetta TDI gets better mileage, costs less to buy, costs less per gallon where I live and isn't an embarrassing, compromising car that people want to run over with their Hummer. Plus, I don't have expensive toxic batteries to replace!
The sole reason for me buying my TDI was because my Land Rover gets 13.8 MPG and the VW Jetta on the highway if you really baby it can get 65-70MPG, average being 48-52.
In areas of high motor vehicle traffic, such as in large cities, the amount of nitrogen oxides emitted into the atmosphere can be quite significant.
Carbon monoxide,with the chemical formula CO, is a major atmospheric pollutant in urban areas, chiefly from exhaust of internal combustion. It is a colorless, odorless and tasteless, yet highly toxic gas.
My 1996 VW Passat TDi faithfully gets 46-50 mpg.
I am thinking about getting a TDI. I do about 90%/95% of my driving on the highway. Any guess on what kinda mpg i could get?
i have a jetta i love it!
733 mile test done in conditions that most benefit the TDI by VW to discredit the Prius, revealed some interesting numbers...
CO2 Emitted:
'09 Jetta TDI: 146.37kg
'04 Prius: 137.05kg
CO Emitted:
'09 Jetta TDI: 293.2g
'04 Prius: 73.3g
NOx Emitted:
'09 Jetta TDI: 36.65g
'04 Prius: 7.33g
Who cares about air quality?
I test drove this the other night.....its a fantastic car overall....however I would go with the manual transmission. For whatever reason the DSG in this model is jerky and feels much less powerful.
Taxi Prius drivers have no time running slow on battery mode, trust me, I live in Vancouver and all airport Prius taxi drivers are zoom zoom, they are fast driver. Time is money, no time running slow on battery mode. These cab companies are better off with a Jetta TDi wagon due to VW's reputation in diesel reliability and big amount of useable torque when hauling luggages. It was only because the latest TDi wasn't available in larget qty 2-3 years ago and these company decided to go with Prius.
I want the 6 speed manual so bad!!!
I'll take this over a crappy hybrid any day of the week. I would go the manual transmission route though. More speed and better fuel economy!
is this all true? i ll buy my car on February and im looking the TDI but i dont know how good it will be or if i should buy it. Someone could advice me? Thanks.
It does NOT make 263 ft/lbs of torque.......it makes 236 ft/lbs of torque, but I still love the car. I got the Sportwagen with DSG in candy white with black Khartoum wheels in 18".
after the brake in i'm getting close to 48MPG but that all depends on your foot. ;)on a average of 65 to 80 Miles per hour i'm getting 44MPG
2009 Vehicle Dependability Study is based on responses from more than 46,000 original owners of 2006 model-year vehicles. The study was fielded in October 2008. While it is nice that your 6 friends have perfect cars that never need to be worked on, others are not so lucky.I am not giving my opinion, I am just telling people where to go to find out how dependable a car is since they are going to spend thousands of dollars on it.I would rather hear what JDPower has to say then 6 of your friends
And i forgot: I bought my prius with $21900 and jetta starts at $25000.
Man, jetta does not make sense for me compared with prius. If you compare it with something else maybe makes sense.My nissan has 3.5 v6, but i bought prius in for good mileage, and for saving money.
Does it have DPF and water cooled EGR? does it inject fuel on exhaust stroke or does it inject into the DPF?
You forgot to mention how amazing standard in a traffic jam. Besides, the resale value and demand of manuals is terrible. Currently a manumatic is the best transmission. Once automatic gets ironed out, it will be much more superior to anything else.
For some strange reason, and I can't seem to finger out why... The VW people who made the video forgot to mention that the Prius has a much smaller tank. In fact its almost half the size of a Jetta's. Oh, I know why they hid that fact! It takes only 8 gallons to fill the Prius and cost $16 ($2.00per gallon). While it takes 14.5 gallons to fill the Jetta and cost $41 ($2.85 per gallon). They paid more then twice as much in diesel just to go only 154 miles further. They both use very little fuel!!
Can you get this car with every option and leave out leather or do u have to get leather
The standard civic and accord are GREAT cars. Overall, diesle engines last alot longer. They can be pricey to work on. In my state diesle is cheaper than low grade unleaded. were the mileage is made up is in town with start and stop. the jetta is averaging me 32mpg in town. My brother has a civic hybrid and its a nice car. doesnt do as well in town and doesnt have the pick up the jetta has. But has lots of room and is good on teh hiway
in addition to that, just look at what that (small) engine does and how the car performs, considering that it weighs more than the ford explorer!
ripper3200 has no body else but himself to talk to....
263 lb feet of torgue out of a turbocharged 4 cylinder?!?!?!?!?!
DANG....
Damn, my commute is 12 minutes. I cant imagine 3.5 hours.
..its 100% built in Mexico w/German parts. Still good right?
Hybrid IS superior. My 2010 Golf TDI wagon is old school technology, 6 speed manual, but I like it.
When NOx and volatile organic compounds (VOCs) react in the presence of sunlight, they form photochemical smog, a significant form of air pollution, especially in the summer. Children, people with lung diseases such as asthma, and people who work or exercise outside are susceptible to adverse effects of smog such as damage to lung tissue and reduction in lung function.
@luminaeus it also leaves unsafe mines and large areas of land tapped, contaminated. and unusable for anything other than a wasteland.
didn't they say it was 50+ mpg?
That's right, use the word "seem"
Did I just hear that right? 263 ft.-lbs. of torque and for a 2.0 4 cylinder diesel. Them little Vtecs better watch out.
Exactly.. Your Escort Pony is 18 years old and probably two sizes smaller than the Jetta. Let's not even have discussions with regard to emissions.
I'd probably say your Escort Pony would lose in a drag race to this Jetta as well :-)
Its not just the U.S. its the world! You may not realize this but oil will reach its peak in about a year or two. If you don't know what that means for the world then go look the 1970's when the U.S. hit its peak in oil production.
I hope they make the TDI Cup into a street car.
i rather get the jetta tdi looks better then the prius and good luck with your prius when something brakes.