I really really appreciate how you have a quiet no nonsense approach to your reviews. I appreciate that you don’t open with a ear splitting heavy metal intro. Well done and thank you for the review.
I'm retired Marine Corps, i have 33 rifles and hand guns, my Ruger PC is one of the best designed rifles( Carbines) I ever used, I'm a bit taken back when you say there's a number of improvements it could use, thats just not accurate , your selling add ons, thats fine, some people like that, but this weapon is close to perfect out of the box.
Glad to read some common sense response. This carbine, for what it is designed for, is great out of the box. If you want to engage the enemy during WW3, than buy the Rugar SFAR.
What is funny is when most you tubers complain of the weight of this carbine. I go back to a quote from General Mathis (paraphrasing): This country is screwed after watching kids on airplanes struggle to put bags in the overhead compartments.
I’m sure it does work great out of the box, but what if I want a light on it? What if I want a bipod or a grip? Irons are good but what if I want an IR? You fudds are so arrogant it’s sad
I received my Hand Guard to day and with the instructions and after your seeing your video a few days ago, I had it on in about 15 minutes. Looks very nice !
Outstanding video & presentation...those upgrades really dressed up that Ruger. I live a half hour from the Midwest shop here in Wisconsin...very nice place & the staff is very helpful...oh by the way I subbed...
An excellent instructional video. The fact that OreGear is not 'sold' on the weapon makes the review of the Midwest upgrades more credible. Thanks for this, I am going to spring for the upgrade set. I am also getting a muzzle break.
Im happy with the PC9. Ive had one for about a year now, with over 5000 rounds run through it. With the release of the Ruger 57 though, I would like to see the PCC adapted for 5.7mm rounds. Would make a potent pair.
Thanks for the great information, I just picked up a PC carbine and was looking for upgrades. I definitely like that handguard and extended knurled charging handle. Thanks agian
I bought the Ruger 19122 model then modified it with MCARBO, Tandemkross, and Magpul 27 round mags. Actually like it more than my AR. The collapsible stock is great compared to the rifle stock and it has two QD mounts plus it already comes with the Mlok hand guard. The MCARBO muzzle brake is worth every penny. Put on a Holosun AEMS and has been awesome so far.
That’s pretty cool! Thanks for the video. I think I may have to get one for my channel now. I’d be curious to compare it to the Keltec Sub-2000, CZ Scorpion, Micro Roni, and an AR-9 to see which one works best and for what purposes.
@@schwarzesonne6529 I will be doing a video soon. I have the PC Charger, Scorpion, Roni, and Sub 2000 currently. The Scorpion was my favorite, but I haven’t shot the Ruger yet. Stay tuned!
I just picked mine up, during this Covid issues. The Sheriff's didn't allow gun shops to open, then they reversed their decision. Anyway, first impression, the gun is HEAVY!!
@Liverpool 11 theres your problem, "reviews ive read". Start testing shit for yourself. 8 years ago i realized 99% of guntube reviewers just make shit up.
I thought that gun was ugly … but this is awesome looking... makes it look like a modernized PPSH or something..., I typed that before he said ppsh darn it!!
C Wool magpul is coming out with a stock this fall similar to the hunter x-22 takedown stock for this model. Has storage in the stock. It was announced at shotshow 2020
I have seen a video where the RUGER hand guard version where the barrel is not centered in the hand guard. I added the 14” full hand guard, handle, butt stock QD spacer and their muzzle brake. Can not wait to go back to the range and see how she does.😎🇺🇸
Great stuff I’m looking for this rifle for PCC in uspsa competitive shooting. And it really makes this rifle look badass! Great review and you are very lucky and deserving of the gear!! Keep up the fight out there I know it’s a up hill battle but it’s something that is very important for all our rights.
I've never bought a firearm on how it looks. If I was concerned about how products look, I wouldn't have owned five Jeeps. The classic style will make someone who invited themselves into my home without an invitation regret their life choices.
@@kennethcurtis1856 what’s wrong with jeeps I’ve had a few the best being a 1943 ford flat fender. And yes it was a jeep that was built by ford during the war. It had a V6 not standard of course and was raised 2.5 inches. The good old days.
Taccom has a carbon fiber hand guard that's significantly lighter than the Midwest Industries and is only $100.oo. It also helps the balance as the PC9 is a bit front heavy.
They will be offering a railed model from the factory but they’re using a different handguard that is inferior to the Midwest Industries offering in my opinion.
I like the hand guard. I need to find one. Last time I was on Midwest's site they were not available. I also like the bronze on your rifle. Is it paint or cerakote?
OreGear: I have a question. At 3:12 you casually toss a small package to the side. It looks like a custom elevated picatinny rail insert that allows the rifle to mount a red dot sight in place of the rear factory sights. My Problem is that Midwest Industries doesn’t list it in their description (though it is pictured) and you casually dismiss it as though it’s not a feature worth discussing! What’s the deal bro? Without The ability to mount my Sig Romeo5 in place of the factory rear sights then it’s a no-go for me!
Midwest industries includes MLOK compatible 1913 sections with each of their handguards. I have no idea whether or not this is compatible with any aftermarket replacement rear sight mounts. Midwest is making their own cowitness mount though that works with this handguard.
OreGear - thanks bro! If they’re making a cowitness mount that works with this handguard, then they’ll get my business for sure. I was considering purchasing the rifle with the factory Free-float handguard but the Midwest Industries set-up seems much better to me. Thanks again for the informative video and swift reply!
Coupon code failed? Nice video. I like the upgrades and the cerakoted barrel. Mine has the tan digital camo stock, so I may have to go with that barrel setup too. Thanks!
Thanks for video! Also go get Glock 33 rd mag extender adds +20 rds which replaces +2 baseplate for total of 51 round Glock mag called Goliath!! aka Super stick!
So I've had this handguard for the past year.... EVERY TIME I TAKE IT TO THE RANGE IT CAME LOOSE AND A WOBBLE BECAME AN ISSUE!!!!!.... Ihave a small laser mloked to the front of the rail that became useless wiith the wobble.... so I've use loctite torqued and retorqued this thing with the same damn issue...EVERYTIME!!!!!..... the issue is that the rail is made with a tiny bit of play or space to mount in the bottom of thr barrel where the locking lug and mechanism meets the MI rail.... and even withe the wobble the torqued down screw is in there tight, it didnt back out!!!.... it's simply an issue with the rail....I've called up Midwest industries and spoken to them and they haven't been much help.... SO MY SOLUTION to the wobbles is simply using AUTOMOTIVE EXHAUST PATCH TAPE(metal tape) and used it as shims to eliminate the wobbles 100%!!!
I fail to see how you improved the rifle from it's stock performance? I own a PC9 wonderful right out of the box. The only thing I added was an red dot, but even then the iron sights were great it's just my eyes that are failing. In my ever so humble opinion all it really needs is a better magazine release button. Just my 2 cents.
Just a thought...no one can see what your doing when you put the nadguard on because you have what appears to be a shot up target obstructing the view.
I really really appreciate how you have a quiet no nonsense approach to your reviews. I appreciate that you don’t open with a ear splitting heavy metal intro. Well done and thank you for the review.
Thank you. I appreciate it!
Agreed!!!
AGREED.
Exactly!
I'm retired Marine Corps, i have 33 rifles and hand guns, my Ruger PC is one of the best designed rifles( Carbines) I ever used, I'm a bit taken back when you say there's a number of improvements it could use, thats just not accurate , your selling add ons, thats fine, some people like that, but this weapon is close to perfect out of the box.
You must not have used many sub guns.
Glad to read some common sense response. This carbine, for what it is designed for, is great out of the box. If you want to engage the enemy during WW3, than buy the Rugar SFAR.
What is funny is when most you tubers complain of the weight of this carbine.
I go back to a quote from General Mathis (paraphrasing): This country is screwed after watching kids on airplanes struggle to put bags in the overhead compartments.
It’s fat kids wanting to feel manly.
I’m sure it does work great out of the box, but what if I want a light on it? What if I want a bipod or a grip? Irons are good but what if I want an IR? You fudds are so arrogant it’s sad
Crystal clear video, good sound and a very pleasant audio level/tone. Many youtubers have something to learn from this guy!!!
I received my Hand Guard to day and with the instructions and after your seeing your video a few days ago, I had it on in about 15 minutes. Looks very nice !
Outstanding video & presentation...those upgrades really dressed up that Ruger. I live a half hour from the Midwest shop here in Wisconsin...very nice place & the staff is very helpful...oh by the way I subbed...
Just got mine , easy install ,looks so much better but the fact that you can
Use your hand forward on the hand guard does make it a great upgrade.
Just installed my forend, charging handle, and the qd spacer! I love it!😎
I have a Ruger PC waiting for my new handguard. I like what you have done,nice work sir.
As ALWAYS...you’re presentation is very well articulated!
Thank you!
I like the new colored rifle & all your new additions, but it does cover up that good looking barrel!
I like the concept, and looks of that carbine
An excellent instructional video. The fact that OreGear is not 'sold' on the weapon makes the review of the Midwest upgrades more credible. Thanks for this, I am going to spring for the upgrade set. I am also getting a muzzle break.
Definitely looks like a PPSH-41, just needs a CZ mag compatible adapter and a nice wood stock. Maybe a quick reset trigger. Nice video.
Definitely looks ppsh. Now it needs a drum.
I'm actually trying to modify mine Into 1 I found a guy to do the work for the stock I gotta get a quote
I am up to AR-15 prices with the add on options.😎🇺🇸
I love the different colors on this piece
Im happy with the PC9. Ive had one for about a year now, with over 5000 rounds run through it. With the release of the Ruger 57 though, I would like to see the PCC adapted for 5.7mm rounds. Would make a potent pair.
Thanks for the great information, I just picked up a PC carbine and was looking for upgrades. I definitely like that handguard and extended knurled charging handle. Thanks agian
I bought the Ruger 19122 model then modified it with MCARBO, Tandemkross, and Magpul 27 round mags. Actually like it more than my AR. The collapsible stock is great compared to the rifle stock and it has two QD mounts plus it already comes with the Mlok hand guard. The MCARBO muzzle brake is worth every penny. Put on a Holosun AEMS and has been awesome so far.
That’s pretty cool! Thanks for the video. I think I may have to get one for my channel now. I’d be curious to compare it to the Keltec Sub-2000, CZ Scorpion, Micro Roni, and an AR-9 to see which one works best and for what purposes.
I own 3 of those you listed an the ruger is still my favorite which did you end up liking
@@schwarzesonne6529 I will be doing a video soon. I have the PC Charger, Scorpion, Roni, and Sub 2000 currently. The Scorpion was my favorite, but I haven’t shot the Ruger yet. Stay tuned!
I just picked mine up, during this Covid issues. The Sheriff's didn't allow gun shops to open, then they reversed their decision. Anyway, first impression, the gun is HEAVY!!
Fantastic instructional video thank you! 👍
Excellent as always.
N I C E upgrades, looks like a whole different firearm!
I’m actually pretty shocked Magpul hasn’t got off their ass and made furniture for this yet
Agree
I asked Magpul about it at SHOT show. They were coy, but indicated something is in the works.
9mm shoots a good distance if you have ever tried
@Liverpool 11 theres your problem, "reviews ive read". Start testing shit for yourself. 8 years ago i realized 99% of guntube reviewers just make shit up.
Well you can start with a few Magpul 21 rnd Glock mags. Perfect length, perfect reliability.
Thanks for the 10% worked out well. Hopefully gets you more products from MI.
Looks great.
Excellent video, great presentation, thanks much.
I thought that gun was ugly … but this is awesome looking... makes it look like a modernized PPSH or something..., I typed that before he said ppsh darn it!!
Ruger should come out with a pistol version with a armbrace and shorter barrel kinda like a ruger 10/22 charger
There are these things called 9mm handguns that exist.
@@ronl9357 yah but you dont have as many points of contact with it. it would make it a lot more easy to shoot
They either have one out,based on charger, or will be out soon!
JUST happened!
Lol they did.
I wish they had a storage compartment in the butt stock.
C Wool magpul is coming out with a stock this fall similar to the hunter x-22 takedown stock for this model. Has storage in the stock. It was announced at shotshow 2020
I wonder how this hand guard compares to the new hand guard Ruger made for this little carbine.
I have seen a video where the RUGER hand guard version where the barrel is not centered in the hand guard.
I added the 14” full hand guard, handle, butt stock QD spacer and their muzzle brake. Can not wait to go back to the range and see how she does.😎🇺🇸
@@johnnybbgunner2136 👍
Good Stuff!!! Awesome Upgrades!!! 😀😀
Ruger sells them with free floated mlok barrels now
Is Ruger sourcing their PC 9 mlock handguards from Midwest industries, or is it their own in-house, similar design?
@@k.n.9956 I have one. It's definitely a Ruger design and manufacture.
Thank you for the promo code, just ordered the full kit.
You won’t be disappointed
Do you have link for the handrail?
That is a really nice setup
Sweet upgrades! Man, I really need to pick one of these up.
Great Quality Video.
Love that shirt!
Great video!!
I like the upgrades, looks and functionality wise. 👍👍
Great stuff I’m looking for this rifle for PCC in uspsa competitive shooting. And it really makes this rifle look badass! Great review and you are very lucky and deserving of the gear!! Keep up the fight out there I know it’s a up hill battle but it’s something that is very important for all our rights.
I've never bought a firearm on how it looks. If I was concerned about how products look, I wouldn't have owned five Jeeps.
The classic style will make someone who invited themselves into my home without an invitation regret their life choices.
@@kennethcurtis1856 what’s wrong with jeeps I’ve had a few the best being a 1943 ford flat fender. And yes it was a jeep that was built by ford during the war. It had a V6 not standard of course and was raised 2.5 inches. The good old days.
Awesome upgrades
Nicely done!
Great stuff, thanks for the review
Well done and informative.
Sweet set up... Especially if you live in ca. It'd be sick if a company like MI made a receiver/stock to accept and ar butt stock and pistol grip.
I've installed the Taccom muzzle brake and charging handle on mine. Consistently hitting a 10 inch plate at 100 yards. I love it with my Glock mags.
Ordered, thank you.
i have this rifle and love it!
Nice video ... might be something I may decide to add to mine. Looks great and very functional.
Taccom has a carbon fiber hand guard that's significantly lighter than the Midwest Industries and is only $100.oo. It also helps the balance as the PC9 is a bit front heavy.
Just installed one yesterday. Like the look of the MWI one, but went for less weight with the carbon fiber model.
Great explanation 👍
Damn, the colours of your PC 9 are beautiful. Never got this option in Canada. Can't even get a handrail up here yet... Patiently waiting : /
First step. Get rid of Trudy. Shes/its? a pain in the ass. Then rest may follow.
I wish ruger would come out the gate with a tactical take down model out the gate
You mean like the 19122 model. How much more tactical do you want?
Nice work mat placement
Poor man’s Papa Shaw!🇺🇸
I have the whole Midwest industries setup for my pc carbine
I would love that gun with a stock change to a more aggressive looking one yet keeping the stock barrel
This in FDE looks so beautiful
They should offer the PC9 from the factory with that rail, it changes the whole Carbine
They will be offering a railed model from the factory but they’re using a different handguard that is inferior to the Midwest Industries offering in my opinion.
They got a mlok rail model, I just purchased one yesterday
I love mine and 3 50 Rnd drums make it nice
As Jeff Cooper said: How many times you plan on missing?
Looking good!!
Your paper and other garbage actually covered up your work. Interesting approach.
I like the hand guard. I need to find one. Last time I was on Midwest's site they were not available. I also like the bronze on your rifle. Is it paint or cerakote?
It comes that way from the distributor
Nice video, great upgrades. God Bless
Thanks and Blessings!!!
Doesn't the new version of the pc9 with the free-floated barrel do the same thing?
It has no QD mounts built in and has fewer rows of MLOK slots.
OreGear: I have a question. At 3:12 you casually toss a small package to the side. It looks like a custom elevated picatinny rail insert that allows the rifle to mount a red dot sight in place of the rear factory sights. My Problem is that Midwest Industries doesn’t list it in their description (though it is pictured) and you casually dismiss it as though it’s not a feature worth discussing! What’s the deal bro? Without The ability to mount my Sig Romeo5 in place of the factory rear sights then it’s a no-go for me!
Midwest industries includes MLOK compatible 1913 sections with each of their handguards. I have no idea whether or not this is compatible with any aftermarket replacement rear sight mounts. Midwest is making their own cowitness mount though that works with this handguard.
OreGear - thanks bro! If they’re making a cowitness mount that works with this handguard, then they’ll get my business for sure. I was considering purchasing the rifle with the factory Free-float handguard but the Midwest Industries set-up seems much better to me. Thanks again for the informative video and swift reply!
Beautiful carbine. The only upgrade or mod i would do is change the chambering to 10MM!
When they make that fore end in half the length I’m interested.
Chop it down
Very good video! I like the ruger pc. Ill sub.
You may want to avoid my review of this rifle then
OreGear
Do you have a link to your PC9 review?
Would love to know what you dislike about it.
It’ll be up either today or tomorrow
Lol no worries
Coupon code failed? Nice video. I like the upgrades and the cerakoted barrel. Mine has the tan digital camo stock, so I may have to go with that barrel setup too. Thanks!
I’ll contact them about it tomorrow. It works on everything else on the site it seems.
The coupon code is working once again
Midwest is at present out of stock, have an order in, thx for the vid.
Great informative video. I see that Midwest Industries has two lengths for the PC9. Which one did you install in the video?
Not a cheap add on item or kit, but it does make it much more tactical and should improve performance at the range or for home defense.
This rifle in 45 with ump 45 mags would be bad ass.
Getting parts for free is getting kickback fyi ;) Thanks for the video.
Thanks. I'm looking at Midwest Industries as well as Parker Mountain Machine hand guards. Do you have any knowledge of PMM?
I’m not familiar with Parker mountain
@@OreGear Thanks anyway. Good video.
Is the new hand guard 14”
Magpul going to make a chassis/stock?
Great question
I want them to release a "backpacker" stock similar to the 10/22 one.
They better hurry up! This Midwest forearm looks great!
Can you remove the back sight and mount an aftermarket sight further back?
Thanks for video! Also go get Glock 33 rd mag extender adds +20 rds which replaces +2 baseplate for total of 51 round Glock mag called Goliath!! aka Super stick!
Where do ya pickup the +20 extension for da Glock?
Thanks for the info.
I am waiting for the 45acp version.
Love the look just REALLY wish the mag well wasn’t angled to the rear
I hope they make one in 45 acp carbine
For the money you spent you already know what I'm about to say
He could have bought a ______?
Like the brown black color scheme. How did you do that?
It came from the distributor that way
Did the handguard get loose when shooting? Did you use loctite? Thanks!
So I've had this handguard for the past year.... EVERY TIME I TAKE IT TO THE RANGE IT CAME LOOSE AND A WOBBLE BECAME AN ISSUE!!!!!.... Ihave a small laser mloked to the front of the rail that became useless wiith the wobble.... so I've use loctite torqued and retorqued this thing with the same damn issue...EVERYTIME!!!!!..... the issue is that the rail is made with a tiny bit of play or space to mount in the bottom of thr barrel where the locking lug and mechanism meets the MI rail.... and even withe the wobble the torqued down screw is in there tight, it didnt back out!!!.... it's simply an issue with the rail....I've called up Midwest industries and spoken to them and they haven't been much help.... SO MY SOLUTION to the wobbles is simply using AUTOMOTIVE EXHAUST PATCH TAPE(metal tape) and used it as shims to eliminate the wobbles 100%!!!
Ruger PPSH awesome
😱😭🤐😧🛌🌹🌈🐊🐉🐕
I fail to see how you improved the rifle from it's stock performance?
I own a PC9 wonderful right out of the box. The only thing I added was an red dot, but even then the iron sights were great it's just my eyes that are failing.
In my ever so humble opinion all it really needs is a better magazine release button.
Just my 2 cents.
Man.. That's so slick!
Inch pounds? Sounds like the last time I installed clutch basket studs lol
Add a MCarbo enhanced spring for better cycling.
I wonder how the MI hand guard compares to the new Ruger version? Single bolt mounting seems a little sketchy to me.
The Ruger has fewer MLOK slots and no built in QD mounts
It's a shame the MI QD rear adapter adds to the LOP. A adapter that used the existing stock sling mount would be nice.
Just a thought...no one can see what your doing when you put the nadguard on because you have what appears to be a shot up target obstructing the view.
What is the length of pull with the QD adaptor on the butt stock?
How do you get the brown receiver and barrel?
Probably had it painted.
It's how it came from the store. I believe it's a distributor exclusive through Davidsons.
Can you weigh this so we can get an idea of the weight compared to stock? Thanks!
Did you say we can install vertical grip with new handguard? If so, where can I buy the vertical grip? Thanks.