My dad was an architect for a project on the big island that was supposed to be a gated community with houses and golf courses. They started construction in 2001 and found human bones on the land. All construction was ordered to stop and it went to court. The native Hawaiian people saying it was sacred burial grounds and the owner of the land fighting to develop it. The Hawaiian people won and the construction had to stop. So, hang in there and keep the faith. The difference with this project is you have many countries from around the world that want this telescope built. I hope the Hawaiian people are honored and their mountain remains sacred. Aloha ♥️♥️🌼
꧁кυ'υαlσнα꧂ aka: aloha IDK if it was stopped permanently. Idk what is happening to that land now. My dad moved to Hawaii to be the architect for the project and lived there 8 years and then had to move back to the mainland bc there just wasn’t any work. I know the owner went bankrupt fighting in court. But you’re right. The land could be developed by now. It’s so sad. Money ruins so many beautiful lands.
To be clear: 1. According to National and International law, Government's oath is to act according to the rule of law; and protection of the people's rights. Human rights violations are war crimes (in this instance for Mauna Kea); regarding the Native Tennant Rights with the people and sacred lands. 2. Sacred (Highly valued) property, and inheritance, belonging to a people is protected according to National and International law. 3. Political Science and International Law. neatoday.org/2018/10/01/the-u-s-occupation-of-the-hawaiian-kingdom/
Don't worry, devious demon whites never give up on being sht stains on others. Won't be long before your daddy gets his job fcuking natives back princess, then you can get that horse you've been asking for.
kristin Mauna Kea’s forest reserve acreage is 52,500 acres. The TMT will occupy less than 6 acres within the 525 acres of the approved “Astronomy Precinct,” which sits well inside the 11,228 acres of the designated “Science Reserve” allocated for a range of projects that are strictly moderated for specific uses, all of which help to protect and preserve Hawaiian lands.
I think it's disturbing that here in Australia, there is little media coverage in the area I live in covering global issues such as what is happening in Mauna Kea and now in the Amazon. Yet there is plenty of media coverage about trivial issues related to the lives and scandals of prominent individuals and celebrities....Thank you Lily for helping to educate me on an issue that I unfortunately didn't know much about until now.
Same here in italy....if It wasn t for lily i would have never know about What s going on in Hawaii , and about the Amazon It was 'that vegan couple' that have me knowledge on that .....i don t watch a lot of standard TV but these enourmus problema should be' spoken about wordwide !!!!!
Mahalo for your support for Mauna A Wakea (the original name for Mauna Kea). I also suggest looking into Ihumātao in New Zealand and Cockpit Country in Jamaica.
To be clear: 1. According to National and International law, Government's oath is to act according to the rule of law; and protection of the people's rights. Human rights violations are war crimes (in this instance for Mauna Kea); regarding the Native Tennant Rights with the people and sacred lands. 2. Sacred (Highly valued) property, and inheritance, belonging to a people is protected according to National and International law. 3. Political Science and International Law. neatoday.org/2018/10/01/the-u-s-occupation-of-the-hawaiian-kingdom/
Wonder, curiosity?.... I guess the same motive that the ancient Polynesians had that prompted them to set forth in primitive canoes to find their way to Hawaii. Looking beyond where you are. To find something better, more interesting. To make you reach out. The same reason that some watch Lily's channel. Who knows?
@@rainguynw Maybe. But that curiosity is a vice if we eventually destroy what we find. We have to learn to value what we have on earth, the only planet ever discovered with life, before the profundity of the universe, which while beautiful, seems so far be empty. If we destroy beauty to appreciate other beauty, we have gained nothing. If we destroy beauty to gain knowledge, what is that knowledge worth if there were another way?
Thank you for illuminating this issue. My brother-in-law has been very active in this protest. It is very important to spread awareness of the truth behind this state action.
To be clear: 1. According to National and International law, Government's oath is to act according to the rule of law; and protection of the people's rights. Human rights violations are war crimes (in this instance for Mauna Kea); regarding the Native Tennant Rights with the people and sacred lands. 2. Sacred (Highly valued) property, and inheritance, belonging to a people is protected according to National and International law. 3. Political Science and International Law. neatoday.org/2018/10/01/the-u-s-occupation-of-the-hawaiian-kingdom/
@@paulshipley6024 I'm beginning to think you have a vested interest in having this telescope built. Every one of your comments is rude and unnecessary. Piss off.
How refreshing. A youtuber that actually does something positive and doesn't use it as a way to get views and post selfies. I hope everything works out and they don't build the telescope!
Paul Shipley when science is used in such a way that it destroys the environment and disregards indigenous peoples sacred land, then it is wrong. I can’t understand how you can’t see this! Ripping up ancient forest like they do in Borneo, the Amazon or even here in the UK is not progress. Tearing up land in Australia also has left much of the land decimated and indigenous peoples displaced and pushed to the brink, shoved aside for so called pseudoscience 😡😡😡😡
Thank you for compiling this list of resources, Lily. I’ll be using it as I do my best to inform myself. And thank you for truly standing for Mother Earth and her children. ❤️🌏
I follow you on Instagram and if I remember correctly you also went to the Mauna for this same reason back in 2015. Mahalo all you're doing to help protect the Mauna and for using your platform to bring attention to this issue.
I did go up in 2014 and 2015 a few times, but I was not present there like I should have been. I've felt regret about that for many years, which is why I'm prioritizing being on the Mauna now. Mahalo!
Thank you very much for this video, Lily! I'm so happy that you speak about it, because it seems that nobody speaks enough about important matters regarding our planet anymore. I'm sending love and prayers to all of you. Thank you for what you do for all of us.
Thank you so much for sharing. This fit all the pieces together that I have been hearing. Sending my best wishes for all the activists and the native Hawaiian community
We missed you Lily! Yet again such a powerful and important video. Having lived on an island most of my life, I have seen my island get destroyed for profit, and its heart breaking. Thank you for giving me inspiration to actually start doing something about it. If we all come together all over the world and do what needs to be done to protect what we have left, what a truly incredible story that would be for future generations! Sending you courage and hope! ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Lily for explaining so succinctly..unfortunately zero news coverage in UK..but social media is the way ..have emailed governors office and trying to share awareness in my little inch of the world x
Missed your videos! My heart is broken for all the awful things happening to our planet right now. It seems we won’t stop until all we have left is regret. I wish these people realized that money is not everything. Praying for you & all protestors! Will do what I can from the main land. Stay safe ♥️
Thank you for doing what you do Lilly. You’re a level head speaking truth in this world where smoke and mirrors (and $) are in control. Your voice is appreciated.
I missed your videos, Lily ❤️ thank you so much for educating us about this very important and upsetting topic. It's not being covered AT ALL by the German news over here... please stay safe! The world needs more people like you...
Wonderful!! I love your eloquent activism. You have real integrity. I hope many of us can stand up for the survival of our planet. You are using your platform wisely. Much respect🌍🌍🌍🌍
i cannot mahalo you enough. mahalo for understanding, educating, & standing with us Kānaka. i deeply appreciate you for this. you are amazing. mahalo for using your platform to kōkua us in this fight for Mauna A Wākea. enough is enough. ‘a’ole (no) should be enough.
Paul Shipley woah there. coward? 😂 who said i hated it, Paul? i/we do not consent the further desecration or destruction of OUR LAND. let me ask you something - why do you hate Natives, their way of life, land, culture, etc? exactly. hard to answer because you never stated it. so do me a favor and paʻa ka waha :)
Oh Lily, so powerful. I / we have been following in spirit . When I watched some of the footage from Mauna , it was like my heart burst ( in a good powerful way). I will continue to pray for the protection of the land & all the people ( sorry, just don’t want to use names out of respect because it is not my culture ❤️). Thank you for updating us & we support you all the way.
Thanks for taking the time to update us all and all the incredibly important/protection going on. Other planets🙄 so naive and dumb! Keep strong we’re with you 💪🙏♥️
Ignorance and a lack of compassion, empathy and understanding is bliss for those that are closed minded and see only dollar signs..... Such a sad truth and very hurtful and disheartening for the way that sacred and beloved land, landmarks aand grounds are discarded and developed upon... Conitnue to stand with those that know the truth and know that we are standing with you in spirit.... Sending love, positive vibes and energy to all who are taking a stand and fighting for the right of this land and its people... Love from Ohio Lily to all
Thank you for sharing this video ! I had no idea that this was going on ! It makes me so sad that people are still trashing the land. Praying for the land and everyone supporting it they win! I wish I could give more than that ❤️
This may seem snarky, it is not intended that way. Why did you move to, and help in the colonization of Hawaii? Why do you stay? And also one more question to help me follow your logic. How is any state in the USA not a "fake state." How is any country in the world not a "fake country." Is it not dependent on one's time reference? And please, I am not trying to be a snark. As a long time visitor (avoiding resorts) I really am trying to think this through.
rainguynw Those are great questions. I moved here completely ignorant, built a life and family still ignorant. My family are my roots here, without them, I would seriously consider returning to the mainland, morally speaking. Though being involved as a supporter in these movements, it is routinely expressed how valuable support is, regardless of the origination... and so I do my best to be supportive of Kanaka Maoli self-determination and do my best to be a good steward of the land that has been kind enough to allow me to stay.
@@lilykoihawaii Thanks for your reply, and another quick question. I love the Hawaiian geography, people, history and cultural traditions. This issue with the telescope has been a mystery to me. Nature guided the original Polynesians to the islands, using wind, waves AND the stars to bring them to their new home. I have often wondered why the Hawaiians have not embraced the exploration of the stars as an extension of their heritage. The heavens were so significant to their lives, navigation and culture. I probably don't understand something about the issue and make no judgement, even given the sacred nature of Mauna Kea, but it still seems there is a possible opportunity to find some compromise. I truly love the islands and the people and their history and culture, and yet I would never return if that was deemed best for their future and preservation.
Thank you so much for what you do and for using your platform to speak on this powerful movement. You are a roll model for other white women (like myself) on how to be supportive without being a "white savior". I teared up watching this video. Thank you.
To be clear: 1. The Theory of "Evolution (as proposed in Charles Darwin's book: 'On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of the Favored Races in the Struggle for Life')" is the Racism/White supremacy ideology (and the theory is false). 2. French biologist Louis Pasteur began exposing the Theory of Evolution to be false several years after the publication of Darwin's book. 3. The Theory of Evolution has no Formula (characteristic of theories without substance in fact, truth or law). 4. There is no gene in the entire genome spectrum to account for the claim of genetic evolution. 5. There are no facts or evidence to prove or support the claim that organisms change into other organisms of a more complex nature through any "unguided" or random "process". 6. The value placed on the Theory of Evolution has been connected to it's claim (a false claim) that so-called White people are "Evolved" beyond so-called non-White people through the "process of Evolution" (centered around the "stronger" dominating, mistreating or wiping-out the "weaker" etc. including the idea that the more so-called non-White the people, the closer to the "ape-man" etc.). 7. Science means Knowledge. Knowledge is to Observe, Learn and Respect. Observe is to look and listen. Learn is to find facts or find answers. Respect is to consider or think about the truth.
To be clear: 1. Science means Knowledge. Knowledge is to Observe, Learn and Respect. Observe is to look and listen. Learn is to find facts or find answers. Respect is to consider or think about the truth. 2. We, scientists, are to follow the facts in order to see where they lead. th-cam.com/video/V5EPymcWp-g/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for reporting on this. It really saddens me that American news sources and social media rather report on what color tie Trump is wearing than sharing important stuff like this. I’ve never visited Hawaii, but the older I get, the more I realize awful Hawaiians have been treated. No joke, when I was little, I use to think Hawaii was just like a big vacation resort. I had to take a college level history class to just get a snippet of the history of Hawaii. Anyways, i wish you the best of luck and stay safe!
Girl, I don’t know you, but you are awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your time and experience on Mauna Kea and such breadth and depth of understanding. Kapu Aloha! Kū Kiaʻi Mauna!! Aloha Will Save the World.
Even with all the horrid satellites watching us from the star wars skies, we still can't see ourselves better. That retarded mega super size me tmt telescope will never be worth the sacrifice no matter what is seen through it !!!
So, yeah. About astronomy in Hawaii: “the asteroid was only about 16 feet (5 meters) in size and was detected at 9:45 UTC (2:45 a.m. PDT, 5:45 a.m. EDT) on Saturday, June 22, by the University of Hawaii's ATLAS survey telescope on Maunaloa in Hawaii.” www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7438
This video should be a great inspiration for everyone of us. Thank you for what you are doing, it's good to see other people trying to act for our planet (which is now reallyyyy endangered with what happens to our amazonia). Kiss from France and sorry if i did mistakes!
Thank you for sharing this story on your channel. This is happening all over. In my community, a new affordable housing project is being planned on land that was once state land where indigenous folks believe their community members’ remains are buried. The developers assert that there’s no “evidence” of any remains and they will carry on with building in 2020-21.
Thank you so much for sharing and thank you so much for your service. Interesting how this is going on at the same time as the Amazonian fire. I agree what you said, that this is the pivotal point where we determine whether we continue on with earth or if we destroy ourselves along with it.
Dear Mrs. lily, I’m very happy you exist, truly. Your life calling is obviously to help save the planet and the food system and mine is to help reform education. One person one thing at a time. Keep going. Ms. Lindsey
Going to Hawaii has been my dream since I was in grade school. There’s something about Hawaii that attracts me so much and that goes beyond the beautiful beaches...i’m sure you know what i mean. Now that I’m 25 i thought that i could finally save some money and go, but i guess i have to think again. I care about Hawaii so much and all that is going on there made me understand that I’m not ready, not yet. If I will be able to get there i want to be in a good place mentally and most of all i want be as much respectful as I can. Until then i will continue to pray for Hawaii and spreading awareness. Thank you lily, god bless you 💙
I realised that you haven't posted in awhile yesterday and looked at your Instagram which I was happy to see what you were doing. I'm a bit shy about standing up because I'm afraid of being disrespectful.
Everything she has said I believe it's true. We are one. We have been used for our so called government. Now we need to stand together and protect what we have keft. Mahalo..
Let's destroy all of those evil telescopes... nah.. just kidding. They're benign, harmless, altruistic tools of learning. The kia'i are fear mongering and spreading lies, hate, distrust, disharmony and ludditism. It's just a telescope.😀
Ohhh I missed you 😭 Thank you for being intelligent, passionate, and giving a fuck. I apologize for my language but you always inspire me with your content. I will be donating, sharing, and fighting from my home in Massachusetts. The world is a better place because of activists like you and all the people fighting for what’s right in Hawaii. I hope you are able to eat some delicious whole plant foods while you are out there being a super hero ❤️
I’m glad a local Haole explained this situation so other people can understand. (When we Maoli kanaka calls white people Haole it’s not meant to be racist. Majority of us Hawaiians have white blood flowing through our veins so to us it’s not racist when we say the word. There are Haoles who still have their ‘mainland ways ‘ that rub the locals the wrong way). Everyone who live in our state (or who comes to visit) should go to The Mauna to experience the Aloha that’s permeating the air. This video was very well made. Mahalo nui loa.🤙🏽 Ku Kia’i Mauna! A’ole TMT!!
Many cultures have words for outsiders. Some kanaka like to use the word 'haole' as a racial term ("Hey, you different ethnic person"), a racial classifier ("Hey, person who doesn't belong to the lāhui, non-native"), racial slur ("Stupid haole!"), or self-esteem booster ("Hey, you're plastic, I'm authentic. I'm superior."). The word 'haole' doesn't carry positive connotations. At best, it can be neutral. 'Haole' is used very similarly to how the Japanese use 'Gaijin'. The Japanese also are very distrustful and unfriendly towards outsiders, aliens, strangers and foreigners. Some kanaka look at non-kanaka in the same way. The word 'haole' is definitely not a loving term that builds a connected and harmonious community. It's designed to differentiate and segregate: "You don know whacha talkin bout, you justa haole." How would the kanaka feel if caucasians, asians, etc called them 'outsiders', 'strangers', 'aliens', etc? Demographically, Native Hawaiians make up less than 10% of the population and are a minority group. People could even call them 'minorities'. All of that would be insensitive, uncompassionate, cruel and wrong. The word 'haole' is often used with a negative connotation towards the receiving group.
The ancient Hawaiians have been portrayed as being great explorers, navigating their canoes by the stars. It seems to me they would be thrilled by the concept of a telescope that could see farther into the universe than man ever has before.
Then why aren't you protesting against all the resorts and golf courses? Just seems very misplaced to me to be protesting science rather than big corporate $ taking the ʻĀina
@@donnaw1835 ummm what would make you think i dont protests against all desecration of my aina?? The demonstration on mauna kea has hit main stream news because the big corporations will not back off this time. My people has stopped multimillion dollar hotels that would have been built in kau. Together we've voiced our opinion on the idea of a rocket launch pad wanting to be built on our hilo beach. Monsanto knows where we stand on the pollution of our river, bishop estate's knows how we feel about selling water rights to big corps. I mean i could go on and on and on and on. That is also why i am involved in politics as much as i can be. We try to vote officials in office that are for the people but sometimes money and corruption enables them from doing whats right. So we do what comes natural and "protest".
@@Hitswing808 TMT isn't being constructed on any sacred land (no heiau, ahu, ki'i pohaku, kanu iwi, kanu piko, places of pule/mele, etc). It's _one mile_ away from the holy summit and won't be visible from any culturally sensitive areas. The TMT does obstruct any religious, cultural, traditional or recreational practices.
It really gets me emotional when I see the damage that is happening to our beautiful planet. I don’t have children, yet my friends who have children don’t think of this stuff at all! It amazes me!
Or do you actually think that the TMT is going to be used to find a planet to escape to? There are soo many things wrong with that. If you think that please try not to hurt anything till you get educated.
@Paul Shipley That’s what was said sir, that one of the arguments that propose building the telescope is that it could be used to find a planet that can sustain human life. We need to focus on what is happening on our own planet at this current as opposed to exploring others at this current time.
@@sophieplumbob2900 That makes no sense. By your logic nothing would be spent. The TMT isn't even government money. Private money however its owners want. By what right do they block a road to stop this? If you want to worry about the environment worry about China not the TMT. And it would take centuries (at least) to be able to colonize another planet outside our solar system. If you object to use of private money don't blame TMT blame people with 400m super yachts or something.
@@sophieplumbob2900 You misunderstand TMT's scientific missions *(plural).* Yes, the TMT is powerful enough to look at exoplanets and better detect the conditions and biosignatures of life. Humans have always wondered IF there's life in other parts of the universe and whether we're truly alone. No, they are NOT looking for another planet to colonize. Lol. We don't even have the technology to travel the light years (huge!) distance between us and our closest stars, let alone other galaxies. We're not trying to find other planets to live on. That's misinformation that protesters spread as propaganda. TMT has other scientific missions, such as the detection, observation and detection of Earth-killing asteroids. TMT is a powerful super-telescope that is crucial for *planetary defense* against near earth objects (meteors, asteroids and comets). Currently, NASA is tracking ~20,000 near earth objects that are a threat to Earth.... and there's more out there UNDETECTED. The Earth regular gets hit by atmospheric impacts that are equivalent to nuclear bomb level explosions, but they happen at high altitudes. The Nuclear Test Ban Organization has detected many meteor/asteroid impacts with tremendous energies. The kia'i want to protect barren lava rock while the astronomers want to protect the entire planet.
Thank you Lily. I wish more of the vegan (and ex vegan) community would own up to our part of the colonization of worldwide tropical sacred lands for our entitled taste buds.
I think most people realize they played a part in it and that's a reason why they became vegan...but it's not like any of us are directly guilty for it.
💓 Kapu Aloha will change the world... mahalo nui loa tita for using your platform to shine a light on this issues we face at home.. Until the last aloha aina!! See you on the Mauna 💞
Thank you for talking about this! I was unaware, so I was getting excited to hear you talk about a new telescope. (Pardon my ignorance.) But no, this is terrible. What sort of short sighted hypocrisy is it to argue that we have a duty to understand the universe when we already HAVE information about our very own Earth and actively refuse to understand it? I appreciate you spreading the word about this reprehensible situation, but I REALLY appreciate you acknowledging that the true authorities are the locals themselves. While we all have the duty of supporting each other's well being, I respect your deference to the people for whom this is undoubtedly most personal and important.
Mahalo for seeking information and understanding! I, too, was really excited the first time I heard about the TMT as I adore astronomy and all sciences generally... And, yet, the consequences of that development are too dire. Thank you again!
Aloha, this is not a public reply. I had to read everyone's comments and same as mine, to this beautiful human being, making a difference where it is needed. I am a "Hawaiian" when you look at me! But my history gies back way before Jesus was born. We knew before missionaries came that there is a God and practisced Aloha Auna before they knew what our Earth needed. God "gave" us ONE word that would help us live a peaceful life. (If not for my lousy phone I could write more) Beautiful Lily I'm taking your video to the " affordable housing meeting soon to share w it th them your awesome presentation, they should hear from someone In Aneruca which knows what is going on and expresses how she feels and getting what she knows out to the world. Is so awesome, heartfelt like to everyone's comments soesks volumes...hiw going to this meeting with acronym, FAITH...needs to be connected in a calm and soft way, " get off your behinds and see Mauonakea as a start. .If we don't get behind and support maunakea FAITH will turn into DISASTER, because we are the foundation for building affordable housing fir the homeless at places and prices they can afford?" Truly!!!!! That's how I am going to use your video, make copies to give them free so they can get your vudeos out to the people they represent...that's how i can share your video to the world. That word God gave to us, is Aloha...and the world will carry it home to share with many, who keep coming to Hawaii. Thank you, for everything and know you are always welcome back to Hawaii any time...that's the itger thing FAITH needs to build is a place for people like you who are spreading the truth about Hawaii, pros and cons.(because it's all about Aloha)...Simple! Keep up the great work Lily and followers, God is an awesome God who wishes the best for mother Earth, we call Hina, Aloha Aina, "the land that we care for because she feeds us" is what we know...God taught us that in years of exoeriences? He will teach the world, through people like Lily, for whom we will protect in our silent prayers to ourselves and in groups where it's appropriate to protect people like Lily ...it is our powerful prayers that protects her from any harm, In the name of our Father, Son and Holy Ghost We praise your names to the highest heavens, our God and his only son, Jesus, to protect Lily and like mines, Amen, Amen, Amene.
I am currently sitting in a bar in La Palma, in the Spanish Canary islands, so I am a tad biased. La Palma is the alternative site for TMT. The project's own research shows that every scientific goal for the project can be achieved here. A site has been identified on the Roque de Las Muchchchos. There is the infrastructure necessary and the agreements in place. This little island is proud of it's place for world class astronomy and has some of the strictest light pollution controls in the World. Why doesn't TMT Management 'bite the bullet' and just build TMT here. I can only assume that there are vested nationistic interests and sadly, probably certain people who stand to gain financially from building TMT on Mauna Kea. Please leave Mauna Kea sacred. Build TMT on La Palma.
Yes, we were really pushing that narrative (that TMT should just move to their alternate site) as we hadn't heard of any opposition.... until a few weeks ago when an environmental organization put out a letter stating that La Palma is already home to numerous telescopes and the impact of astronomy on La Palma may be quite negative. Certainly, it would serve our purposes to see TMT moved, but we do not want to support the oppression of another people or the destruction of another delicate environment. ♥️
I don't think that it really would bother many people in La Palma, certainly not the traditional inhabitants, the Guanches. I'm afraid they were all massacred in the 15th. Century!
This research has led me to some conclusions. First, there are indeed places on Mauna Kea that are sacred. These are places where Hawaiians have continuously participated in traditional and customary practices; so there are unquestionably specific geo-cultural sites on Mauna Kea that are protected, and the practices that are associated with these sites meet all the defining criteria of being traditional and customary. But the extension of sacredness to the entire mountain and the air column above it gives rise to questions about how much cultural validation there is for the idea that this pre-empts any and all other uses of the mountain. I found no documentation indicating that Mauna Kea, as a whole, is sacred. I could not find any reference to any blanket of sacredness over the entire mountain and the air column in any of the usual sources of validation - not even in the Kumulipo Hawaiian creation-origin chant, or in the writings of Native Hawaiian historians of the 19th century like Samuel Kamakau, David Malo, John Papa ‘I‘i and Kepelino. Beyond the blanket-of-sacredness claim, there is nothing else on record to suggest any validated sacred places would be disturbed by the construction or operation of the TMT. Validated sacred places include the peaks of Pu‘u o Kūkahau‘ula, Pu‘u Poli‘ahu and Pu‘u Lilinoe, Lake Waiau, and various heiau (temples), ‘ahu (altars), ana (caves), lua kā ko‘i (quarries), and ilina (burials). In fact, I believe the decision about the TMT’s location was made to ensure that no sacred site was violated, nor access to any sacred site impeded. The telescope was also sited below the summit to minimize its visual obtrusiveness. ... “The TMT presents probably the greatest opportunity - the greatest cultural opportunity, religious opportunity - that we will ever have to do the one thing that is at the center of every cultural group. That is, search for the ancestors. Our story of creation begins with the night of Pō, with the darkness. I’m assuming that at some point in time, with projects like the TMT, we will actually be able to go back and find the Night of Pō. I cannot think of anything more significant than that.” -Peter Apo, Office of Hawaiian Affairs trustee
A similar situation is happening in Aotearoa New Zealand currently, where a building company have purchased sacred Maori land and want to build housing developments on it. Papakāinga Ihumātao is currently being protected by Kaumātua (elders) and others in peaceful civil disobedience, as Kaitiaki (protectors) of the stolen whenua (land). I'm feeling a lot of intense anger and grief for the disgusting behaviour of governments towards indigenous people at the moment, its blood-boilingingly frustrating and heartbreaking how little respect is shown.
"Talking and listening are mutually exclusive activities" YES, LILY!!! This video was incredibly well spoken. I'm so glad you're walking the walk in Hawai'i and sharing this.
Wow I didn't even hear anything about this! Who's going to use this telescope? I'm going to write to all the collages, NASA and anybody else who might use it and tell them what I think about the situation.
@@c.kainoabugado7935 If it were not for the other telescopes I would be for using the Mauna Kea for Nuclear weapons testing just to stick it to jerks you like to block telescopes. Only slightly kidding
Oh, @Paul Shipley! Please! Don't go out of your way for me, your life should not be inconvenienced due to the minute population of Kanaka Maoli loving our Mauna Kea so dearly and sacredly, where the bones of my ancestors lay. You go ahead with your nuclear activity in Hawaii. We were genocided already, nothing for you to risk now, so that means more results for yourself! I jest in deep sarcasm! Just like Kam IV told us Hawaiians about foreigners back in 1854 and how they come to Hawaii to enrich themselves at the cost of the Natives....sounds familiar 🤔. Silly aliens abound in nonsense 💡
Sadly this is a 'follow the money' type of situation. It appears very similar to the Dakota pipe line fiasco, in that corporate interests out weigh the needs of the indigenous communities interests.
My dad was an architect for a project on the big island that was supposed to be a gated community with houses and golf courses. They started construction in 2001 and found human bones on the land. All construction was ordered to stop and it went to court. The native Hawaiian people saying it was sacred burial grounds and the owner of the land fighting to develop it. The Hawaiian people won and the construction had to stop. So, hang in there and keep the faith. The difference with this project is you have many countries from around the world that want this telescope built. I hope the Hawaiian people are honored and their mountain remains sacred. Aloha ♥️♥️🌼
꧁кυ'υαlσнα꧂ aka: aloha IDK if it was stopped permanently. Idk what is happening to that land now. My dad moved to Hawaii to be the architect for the project and lived there 8 years and then had to move back to the mainland bc there just wasn’t any work. I know the owner went bankrupt fighting in court. But you’re right. The land could be developed by now. It’s so sad. Money ruins so many beautiful lands.
To be clear:
1. According to National and International law, Government's oath is to act according to the rule of law; and protection of the people's rights. Human rights violations are war crimes (in this instance for Mauna Kea); regarding the Native Tennant Rights with the people and sacred lands.
2. Sacred (Highly valued) property, and inheritance, belonging to a people is protected according to National and International law.
3. Political Science and International Law.
neatoday.org/2018/10/01/the-u-s-occupation-of-the-hawaiian-kingdom/
Don't worry, devious demon whites never give up on being sht stains on others. Won't be long before your daddy gets his job fcuking natives back princess, then you can get that horse you've been asking for.
@@talksolot what the hell is your problem?
kristin Mauna Kea’s forest reserve acreage is 52,500 acres. The TMT will occupy less than 6 acres within the 525 acres of the approved “Astronomy Precinct,” which sits well inside the 11,228 acres of the designated “Science Reserve” allocated for a range of projects that are strictly moderated for specific uses, all of which help to protect and preserve Hawaiian lands.
I think it's disturbing that here in Australia, there is little media coverage in the area I live in covering global issues such as what is happening in Mauna Kea and now in the Amazon. Yet there is plenty of media coverage about trivial issues related to the lives and scandals of prominent individuals and celebrities....Thank you Lily for helping to educate me on an issue that I unfortunately didn't know much about until now.
Same here in italy....if It wasn t for lily i would have never know about What s going on in Hawaii , and about the Amazon It was 'that vegan couple' that have me knowledge on that .....i don t watch a lot of standard TV but these enourmus problema should be' spoken about wordwide !!!!!
Mahalo for your support for Mauna A Wakea (the original name for Mauna Kea). I also suggest looking into Ihumātao in New Zealand and Cockpit Country in Jamaica.
To be clear:
1. According to National and International law, Government's oath is to act according to the rule of law; and protection of the people's rights. Human rights violations are war crimes (in this instance for Mauna Kea); regarding the Native Tennant Rights with the people and sacred lands.
2. Sacred (Highly valued) property, and inheritance, belonging to a people is protected according to National and International law.
3. Political Science and International Law.
neatoday.org/2018/10/01/the-u-s-occupation-of-the-hawaiian-kingdom/
What's the point of looking at the universe if we can't even take care of our little corner of it
Bree Bell TRUTH!
Wonder, curiosity?.... I guess the same motive that the ancient Polynesians had that prompted them to set forth in primitive canoes to find their way to Hawaii. Looking beyond where you are. To find something better, more interesting. To make you reach out. The same reason that some watch Lily's channel. Who knows?
@@rainguynw Not buying it, rainguynw...sorry...
@@rainguynw Maybe. But that curiosity is a vice if we eventually destroy what we find. We have to learn to value what we have on earth, the only planet ever discovered with life, before the profundity of the universe, which while beautiful, seems so far be empty. If we destroy beauty to appreciate other beauty, we have gained nothing. If we destroy beauty to gain knowledge, what is that knowledge worth if there were another way?
Bree Bell well said!!! Great statement filled with wisdoms
Thank you for illuminating this issue. My brother-in-law has been very active in this protest. It is very important to spread awareness of the truth behind this state action.
To be clear:
1. According to National and International law, Government's oath is to act according to the rule of law; and protection of the people's rights. Human rights violations are war crimes (in this instance for Mauna Kea); regarding the Native Tennant Rights with the people and sacred lands.
2. Sacred (Highly valued) property, and inheritance, belonging to a people is protected according to National and International law.
3. Political Science and International Law.
neatoday.org/2018/10/01/the-u-s-occupation-of-the-hawaiian-kingdom/
Coward.
@@paulshipley6024 I'm beginning to think you have a vested interest in having this telescope built. Every one of your comments is rude and unnecessary. Piss off.
A vegan walking the walk. Rare in TH-cam. Thank you Lily ♥️
The ways this bird sht white gringoid says Hawaii is so pretentious. lmao
There are lots of vegan TH-camrs who walk the walk
So much respect and admiration for you, all the people of Hawaii, and everyone fighting for Mauna Kea.
What about the majority of the people of Hawaii who want the TMT to be built? Do you "admire" them too?
@@patriciabeyer1805 www.colorlines.com/articles/watch-50-year-history-mismanagement-hawaiis-mauna-kea
Patricia Beyer the “majority”....as in people that don’t have cultural ties to that land.
@@brioche8123 What about the majority of locals who voted yes to it?
@@calmdownkid there was no public vote....
When it started raining it sounded so beautiful. I'm sorry this is happening & I hope you guys win the fight!!
How refreshing. A youtuber that actually does something positive and doesn't use it as a way to get views and post selfies. I hope everything works out and they don't build the telescope!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaahhhhh.... That kind of behavior doesn't get you too far at camp 🤣
How is blocking science a positive?
Paul Shipley when science is used in such a way that it destroys the environment and disregards indigenous peoples sacred land, then it is wrong. I can’t understand how you can’t see this! Ripping up ancient forest like they do in Borneo, the Amazon or even here in the UK is not progress. Tearing up land in Australia also has left much of the land decimated and indigenous peoples displaced and pushed to the brink, shoved aside for so called pseudoscience 😡😡😡😡
I hope this information reaches as many people as possible. Thank you!
Thank you for compiling this list of resources, Lily. I’ll be using it as I do my best to inform myself. And thank you for truly standing for Mother Earth and her children. ❤️🌏
Thank you for your bravery and your message
I follow you on Instagram and if I remember correctly you also went to the Mauna for this same reason back in 2015. Mahalo all you're doing to help protect the Mauna and for using your platform to bring attention to this issue.
I did go up in 2014 and 2015 a few times, but I was not present there like I should have been. I've felt regret about that for many years, which is why I'm prioritizing being on the Mauna now. Mahalo!
Thank you very much for this video, Lily! I'm so happy that you speak about it, because it seems that nobody speaks enough about important matters regarding our planet anymore. I'm sending love and prayers to all of you. Thank you for what you do for all of us.
Thank you Sister! Much love for your love!!
Thank you so much for sharing. This fit all the pieces together that I have been hearing. Sending my best wishes for all the activists and the native Hawaiian community
We missed you Lily! Yet again such a powerful and important video. Having lived on an island most of my life, I have seen my island get destroyed for profit, and its heart breaking. Thank you for giving me inspiration to actually start doing something about it. If we all come together all over the world and do what needs to be done to protect what we have left, what a truly incredible story that would be for future generations! Sending you courage and hope! ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks Lily for explaining so succinctly..unfortunately zero news coverage in UK..but social media is the way ..have emailed governors office and trying to share awareness in my little inch of the world x
Mahalo ia oe for all you do for Mauna Kea. Aloha from Hilo💝✌
Missed your videos! My heart is broken for all the awful things happening to our planet right now. It seems we won’t stop until all we have left is regret. I wish these people realized that money is not everything. Praying for you & all protestors! Will do what I can from the main land. Stay safe ♥️
LILY ❤️ Thank you for everything. Thank you for the work that you do, both online and off. You are awesome!
Thank you for doing what you do Lilly. You’re a level head speaking truth in this world where smoke and mirrors (and $) are in control.
Your voice is appreciated.
I missed your videos, Lily ❤️ thank you so much for educating us about this very important and upsetting topic. It's not being covered AT ALL by the German news over here... please stay safe! The world needs more people like you...
Yay Lily is back! Love you girl! Keep up the amazing work! 🌿🥰
Wonderful!! I love your eloquent activism. You have real integrity. I hope many of us can stand up for the survival of our planet. You are using your platform wisely. Much respect🌍🌍🌍🌍
Why do you hate telescopes! What is wrong with you!
I really did miss you i'm glade you are back i will share this with my friends and family have a great day
i cannot mahalo you enough.
mahalo for understanding, educating, & standing with us Kānaka. i deeply appreciate you for this. you are amazing.
mahalo for using your platform to kōkua us in this fight for Mauna A Wākea.
enough is enough. ‘a’ole (no) should be enough.
Mahalo, Kaila, I'm humbled ♥️
Coward. Why do you hate telescopes. Really make native Hawaiians look bad.
Paul Shipley woah there. coward? 😂
who said i hated it, Paul? i/we do not consent the further desecration or destruction of OUR LAND.
let me ask you something - why do you hate Natives, their way of life, land, culture, etc?
exactly. hard to answer because you never stated it. so do me a favor and paʻa ka waha :)
@@kailanoelani586 It is state land not your land. It is not magic dirt. It is a volcano.
Paul Shipley please do your research, Steve. it might help. You’re embarrassing yourself. :)
Sprained my finger hitting play at lightening speeds!
ED DE 😂
You’re amazing Lily! Stay strong!
So sad. Thank you for the concise explanation ... I had no idea
Oh Lily, so powerful. I / we have been following in spirit . When I watched some of the footage from Mauna , it was like my heart burst ( in a good powerful way). I will continue to pray for the protection of the land & all the people ( sorry, just don’t want to use names out of respect because it is not my culture ❤️). Thank you for updating us & we support you all the way.
Mankind just can’t seem to stop f’ing everything up can they?
Missed you!
Lol... the greedy few really do mess it up for everyone... always have
Well put!
I just love you, Lily, and all that you stand for! Thank you for what you do! ❤🤗
Best of luck, take care and fight for what you believe in.
Thanks for taking the time to update us all and all the incredibly important/protection going on. Other planets🙄 so naive and dumb! Keep strong we’re with you 💪🙏♥️
Such an awesome video, mahalo!
Thank you for bringing light to the topic and sharing your perspectives.
I hear you Lily. Love you. Sending you all strenght and hope. Will go do what I can. ♥️
Thank you.
Ignorance and a lack of compassion, empathy and understanding is bliss for those that are closed minded and see only dollar signs..... Such a sad truth and very hurtful and disheartening for the way that sacred and beloved land, landmarks aand grounds are discarded and developed upon... Conitnue to stand with those that know the truth and know that we are standing with you in spirit.... Sending love, positive vibes and energy to all who are taking a stand and fighting for the right of this land and its people... Love from Ohio Lily to all
Mahalo nu nui tita! 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥💛❤💛❤💛❤💛❤🤙🏾🤙🏾
Thank you for sharing this video ! I had no idea that this was going on ! It makes me so sad that people are still trashing the land. Praying for the land and everyone supporting it they win! I wish I could give more than that ❤️
Thanks for making this video! Really good.
Super interesting, thanks for sharing, totally admire your dedication.
This may seem snarky, it is not intended that way. Why did you move to, and help in the colonization of Hawaii? Why do you stay?
And also one more question to help me follow your logic. How is any state in the USA not a "fake state." How is any country in the world not a "fake country." Is it not dependent on one's time reference? And please, I am not trying to be a snark. As a long time visitor (avoiding resorts) I really am trying to think this through.
rainguynw Those are great questions. I moved here completely ignorant, built a life and family still ignorant. My family are my roots here, without them, I would seriously consider returning to the mainland, morally speaking. Though being involved as a supporter in these movements, it is routinely expressed how valuable support is, regardless of the origination... and so I do my best to be supportive of Kanaka Maoli self-determination and do my best to be a good steward of the land that has been kind enough to allow me to stay.
@@lilykoihawaii Thanks for your reply, and another quick question. I love the Hawaiian geography, people, history and cultural traditions. This issue with the telescope has been a mystery to me. Nature guided the original Polynesians to the islands, using wind, waves AND the stars to bring them to their new home. I have often wondered why the Hawaiians have not embraced the exploration of the stars as an extension of their heritage. The heavens were so significant to their lives, navigation and culture. I probably don't understand something about the issue and make no judgement, even given the sacred nature of Mauna Kea, but it still seems there is a possible opportunity to find some compromise. I truly love the islands and the people and their history and culture, and yet I would never return if that was deemed best for their future and preservation.
Thank you for explaining what's really going on up on Mauna Kea, Lilyko'i. Blessings on you and all those trying to protect this sacred land...
Thank you for shedding light on this topic.
The work you're helping with is so incredibly important. Thank you for that, and thank you for this video--we will be here whenever you get back 💚
Ugh I love this and you!! You are incredible!!
Thank you so much for what you do and for using your platform to speak on this powerful movement. You are a roll model for other white women (like myself) on how to be supportive without being a "white savior". I teared up watching this video. Thank you.
To be clear:
1. The Theory of "Evolution (as proposed in Charles Darwin's book: 'On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of the Favored Races in the Struggle for Life')" is the Racism/White supremacy ideology (and the theory is false).
2. French biologist Louis Pasteur began exposing the Theory of Evolution to be false several years after the publication of Darwin's book.
3. The Theory of Evolution has no Formula (characteristic of theories without substance in fact, truth or law).
4. There is no gene in the entire genome spectrum to account for the claim of genetic evolution.
5. There are no facts or evidence to prove or support the claim that organisms change into other organisms of a more complex nature through any "unguided" or random "process".
6. The value placed on the Theory of Evolution has been connected to it's claim (a false claim) that so-called White people are "Evolved" beyond so-called non-White people through the "process of Evolution" (centered around the "stronger" dominating, mistreating or wiping-out the "weaker" etc. including the idea that the more so-called non-White the people, the closer to the "ape-man" etc.).
7. Science means Knowledge. Knowledge is to Observe, Learn and Respect. Observe is to look and listen. Learn is to find facts or find answers. Respect is to consider or think about the truth.
Thank you for opposing science. Maybe we can bring back the dark ages!
@@paulshipley6024
History not mystery.
www.cnsnews.com/commentary/david-klinghoffer/scientists-confirm-darwinism-broken#.WFG-KNelt7k.facebook
To be clear:
1. Science means Knowledge. Knowledge is to Observe, Learn and Respect. Observe is to look and listen. Learn is to find facts or find answers. Respect is to consider or think about the truth.
2. We, scientists, are to follow the facts in order to see where they lead.
th-cam.com/video/V5EPymcWp-g/w-d-xo.html
Peace, Aloha and Justice.
Thank you for reporting on this. It really saddens me that American news sources and social media rather report on what color tie Trump is wearing than sharing important stuff like this. I’ve never visited Hawaii, but the older I get, the more I realize awful Hawaiians have been treated. No joke, when I was little, I use to think Hawaii was just like a big vacation resort. I had to take a college level history class to just get a snippet of the history of Hawaii. Anyways, i wish you the best of luck and stay safe!
Girl, I don’t know you, but you are awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your time and experience on Mauna Kea and such breadth and depth of understanding. Kapu Aloha! Kū Kiaʻi Mauna!! Aloha Will Save the World.
Massive respect Lily....keep being there, keep standing, keep talking, keep being a voice, keep supporting !!!! ✌💖🌎👍
Mahalo piha e Lily...EO!!!
So proud to be subscribed to you and grateful for you! ✌🏿
Even with all the horrid satellites watching us from the star wars skies, we still can't see ourselves better. That retarded mega super size me tmt telescope will never be worth the sacrifice no matter what is seen through it !!!
So, yeah. About astronomy in Hawaii:
“the asteroid was only about 16 feet (5 meters) in size and was detected at 9:45 UTC (2:45 a.m. PDT, 5:45 a.m. EDT) on Saturday, June 22, by the University of Hawaii's ATLAS survey telescope on Maunaloa in Hawaii.”
www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=7438
Keep fighting.
This video should be a great inspiration for everyone of us. Thank you for what you are doing, it's good to see other people trying to act for our planet (which is now reallyyyy endangered with what happens to our amazonia). Kiss from France and sorry if i did mistakes!
Why does France hate telescopes?
Thank you for sharing this story on your channel. This is happening all over. In my community, a new affordable housing project is being planned on land that was once state land where indigenous folks believe their community members’ remains are buried.
The developers assert that there’s no “evidence” of any remains and they will carry on with building in 2020-21.
Thank you so much for sharing and thank you so much for your service. Interesting how this is going on at the same time as the Amazonian fire. I agree what you said, that this is the pivotal point where we determine whether we continue on with earth or if we destroy ourselves along with it.
Good to hear this info!!!! Thanks for posting!
Make sure you research the other poaition too so you know why the majority of Hawaiians support the TMT
@@donnaw1835 are those Hawaiians concerned with preserving their culture? Are they actually Hawaiian?
Dear Mrs. lily,
I’m very happy you exist, truly. Your life calling is obviously to help save the planet and the food system and mine is to help reform education. One person one thing at a time. Keep going.
Ms. Lindsey
Mahalo, Lindsey!!! I'm so honored to be on the same team 🥰
😭 thank you for your passion
Let it ignite the fires of our hearts
You are a amazing advocate for your husband, daughters, and the Hawaii ppl.
Standing with you in the North Pacific!
Going to Hawaii has been my dream since I was in grade school.
There’s something about Hawaii that attracts me so much and that goes beyond the beautiful beaches...i’m sure you know what i mean. Now that I’m 25 i thought that i could finally save some money and go, but i guess i have to think again. I care about Hawaii so much and all that is going on there made me understand that I’m not ready, not yet. If I will be able to get there i want to be in a good place mentally and most of all i want be as much respectful as I can.
Until then i will continue to pray for Hawaii and spreading awareness. Thank you lily, god bless you 💙
That kind of humility, respect, and maturity means a lot... and those are the types of traits that are welcomed here ♥️
I realised that you haven't posted in awhile yesterday and looked at your Instagram which I was happy to see what you were doing. I'm a bit shy about standing up because I'm afraid of being disrespectful.
Thank you ❤🙏
Everything she has said I believe it's true. We are one. We have been used for our so called government. Now we need to stand together and protect what we have keft. Mahalo..
Let's destroy all of those evil telescopes... nah.. just kidding. They're benign, harmless, altruistic tools of learning. The kia'i are fear mongering and spreading lies, hate, distrust, disharmony and ludditism. It's just a telescope.😀
So inspiring. Lily we love you.
I love this. You are an amazing person
Ohhh I missed you 😭
Thank you for being intelligent, passionate, and giving a fuck. I apologize for my language but you always inspire me with your content. I will be donating, sharing, and fighting from my home in Massachusetts. The world is a better place because of activists like you and all the people fighting for what’s right in Hawaii. I hope you are able to eat some delicious whole plant foods while you are out there being a super hero ❤️
Mahalo, Danielle, truly!
Thank you for this video!!!! Very eloquently put. Thank you for all you do ❤️
I’m glad a local Haole explained this situation so other people can understand.
(When we Maoli kanaka calls white people Haole it’s not meant to be racist. Majority of us Hawaiians have white blood flowing through our veins so to us it’s not racist when we say the word.
There are Haoles who still have their ‘mainland ways ‘ that rub the locals the wrong way).
Everyone who live in our state (or who comes to visit) should go to The Mauna to experience the Aloha that’s permeating the air.
This video was very well made. Mahalo nui loa.🤙🏽
Ku Kia’i Mauna!
A’ole TMT!!
Mahalo! Ku Kia'i Mauna!!
Many cultures have words for outsiders. Some kanaka like to use the word 'haole' as a racial term ("Hey, you different ethnic person"), a racial classifier ("Hey, person who doesn't belong to the lāhui, non-native"), racial slur ("Stupid haole!"), or self-esteem booster ("Hey, you're plastic, I'm authentic. I'm superior."). The word 'haole' doesn't carry positive connotations. At best, it can be neutral. 'Haole' is used very similarly to how the Japanese use 'Gaijin'. The Japanese also are very distrustful and unfriendly towards outsiders, aliens, strangers and foreigners. Some kanaka look at non-kanaka in the same way. The word 'haole' is definitely not a loving term that builds a connected and harmonious community. It's designed to differentiate and segregate: "You don know whacha talkin bout, you justa haole." How would the kanaka feel if caucasians, asians, etc called them 'outsiders', 'strangers', 'aliens', etc? Demographically, Native Hawaiians make up less than 10% of the population and are a minority group. People could even call them 'minorities'. All of that would be insensitive, uncompassionate, cruel and wrong. The word 'haole' is often used with a negative connotation towards the receiving group.
The ancient Hawaiians have been portrayed as being great explorers, navigating their canoes by the stars. It seems to me they would be thrilled by the concept of a telescope that could see farther into the universe than man ever has before.
Yes you are correct but the destruction on our sacred mauna is not worth seeing any farther than we have already.
Then why aren't you protesting against all the resorts and golf courses? Just seems very misplaced to me to be protesting science rather than big corporate $ taking the ʻĀina
@@donnaw1835 ummm what would make you think i dont protests against all desecration of my aina?? The demonstration on mauna kea has hit main stream news because the big corporations will not back off this time. My people has stopped multimillion dollar hotels that would have been built in kau. Together we've voiced our opinion on the idea of a rocket launch pad wanting to be built on our hilo beach. Monsanto knows where we stand on the pollution of our river, bishop estate's knows how we feel about selling water rights to big corps. I mean i could go on and on and on and on. That is also why i am involved in politics as much as i can be. We try to vote officials in office that are for the people but sometimes money and corruption enables them from doing whats right. So we do what comes natural and "protest".
@@Hitswing808 TMT isn't being constructed on any sacred land (no heiau, ahu, ki'i pohaku, kanu iwi, kanu piko, places of pule/mele, etc). It's _one mile_ away from the holy summit and won't be visible from any culturally sensitive areas. The TMT does obstruct any religious, cultural, traditional or recreational practices.
@@sunnysied713 brah we get bigger problems now.
It really gets me emotional when I see the damage that is happening to our beautiful planet. I don’t have children, yet my friends who have children don’t think of this stuff at all! It amazes me!
Telescopes are not what damages the planet.
Mahalo mahalo mahalo for making this video. I been wanting to make videos talking about this and our Hawaiian history. Mahalo for getting this out.
This is such an awesome video and the information below is effective & useful❣️❤️Aloha🌺
I love you ❤️ thank you for everything you are doing.
Mahalo Nui
Lily I have so much respect and love for you! Your passion moves and inspires me. ❤️
Thank you for his info. I had know idea.
Imagine wanting to destroy more cultures and planets with colonialism because we are on the verge of destroying ours. Can’t relate.
Well if there culture had been destroyed the telescope would be built.
Or do you actually think that the TMT is going to be used to find a planet to escape to? There are soo many things wrong with that. If you think that please try not to hurt anything till you get educated.
@Paul Shipley That’s what was said sir, that one of the arguments that propose building the telescope is that it could be used to find a planet that can sustain human life. We need to focus on what is happening on our own planet at this current as opposed to exploring others at this current time.
@@sophieplumbob2900 That makes no sense. By your logic nothing would be spent. The TMT isn't even government money. Private money however its owners want. By what right do they block a road to stop this? If you want to worry about the environment worry about China not the TMT. And it would take centuries (at least) to be able to colonize another planet outside our solar system. If you object to use of private money don't blame TMT blame people with 400m super yachts or something.
@@sophieplumbob2900 You misunderstand TMT's scientific missions *(plural).* Yes, the TMT is powerful enough to look at exoplanets and better detect the conditions and biosignatures of life. Humans have always wondered IF there's life in other parts of the universe and whether we're truly alone. No, they are NOT looking for another planet to colonize. Lol. We don't even have the technology to travel the light years (huge!) distance between us and our closest stars, let alone other galaxies. We're not trying to find other planets to live on. That's misinformation that protesters spread as propaganda.
TMT has other scientific missions, such as the detection, observation and detection of Earth-killing asteroids. TMT is a powerful super-telescope that is crucial for *planetary defense* against near earth objects (meteors, asteroids and comets). Currently, NASA is tracking ~20,000 near earth objects that are a threat to Earth.... and there's more out there UNDETECTED. The Earth regular gets hit by atmospheric impacts that are equivalent to nuclear bomb level explosions, but they happen at high altitudes. The Nuclear Test Ban Organization has detected many meteor/asteroid impacts with tremendous energies. The kia'i want to protect barren lava rock while the astronomers want to protect the entire planet.
Thank you Lily. I wish more of the vegan (and ex vegan) community would own up to our part of the colonization of worldwide tropical sacred lands for our entitled taste buds.
I think most people realize they played a part in it and that's a reason why they became vegan...but it's not like any of us are directly guilty for it.
Please stay strong and safe. The world needs more people like you.
💓 Kapu Aloha will change the world... mahalo nui loa tita for using your platform to shine a light on this issues we face at home.. Until the last aloha aina!! See you on the Mauna 💞
Thank you for educating us about this issue. Until the planet looks like mars we still have a chance.
Devenbobeven Truth!!!
Thank you for talking about this! I was unaware, so I was getting excited to hear you talk about a new telescope. (Pardon my ignorance.) But no, this is terrible. What sort of short sighted hypocrisy is it to argue that we have a duty to understand the universe when we already HAVE information about our very own Earth and actively refuse to understand it? I appreciate you spreading the word about this reprehensible situation, but I REALLY appreciate you acknowledging that the true authorities are the locals themselves. While we all have the duty of supporting each other's well being, I respect your deference to the people for whom this is undoubtedly most personal and important.
Mahalo for seeking information and understanding! I, too, was really excited the first time I heard about the TMT as I adore astronomy and all sciences generally... And, yet, the consequences of that development are too dire. Thank you again!
Aloha, this is not a public reply. I had to read everyone's comments and same as mine, to this beautiful human being, making a difference where it is needed.
I am a "Hawaiian" when you look at me! But my history gies back way before Jesus was born.
We knew before missionaries came that there is a God and practisced Aloha Auna before they knew what our Earth needed.
God "gave" us ONE word that would help us live a peaceful life.
(If not for my lousy phone I could write more)
Beautiful Lily I'm taking your video to the " affordable housing meeting soon to share w it th them your awesome presentation, they should hear from someone
In Aneruca which knows what is going on and expresses how she feels and getting what she knows out to the world. Is so awesome, heartfelt like to
everyone's comments soesks volumes...hiw going to this meeting with acronym, FAITH...needs to be connected in a calm and soft way, " get off your
behinds and see Mauonakea as a start. .If we don't get behind and support maunakea FAITH will turn into DISASTER, because we are the foundation for building affordable housing fir the homeless at places and prices they can afford?"
Truly!!!!!
That's how I am going to use your video, make copies to give them free so they can get your vudeos
out to the people they represent...that's how i can share your video to the
world.
That word God gave to us, is
Aloha...and the world will carry it home to share with
many, who keep coming to
Hawaii.
Thank you, for everything and know you are always welcome back to Hawaii any time...that's the itger thing
FAITH needs to build is a place for people like you who are spreading the truth about Hawaii, pros and cons.(because it's all about
Aloha)...Simple!
Keep up the great work Lily and followers, God is an awesome God who wishes the best for mother Earth, we call Hina, Aloha Aina,
"the land that we care for because she feeds us" is what we know...God taught us that in years of exoeriences? He will teach the world, through people like Lily, for whom we will
protect in our silent prayers
to ourselves and in groups where it's appropriate to protect people like Lily ...it is our powerful prayers that protects her from any harm,
In the name of our Father, Son and Holy Ghost We praise your names to the highest heavens, our God and his only son, Jesus,
to protect Lily and like mines, Amen, Amen, Amene.
“Enough is enough!”
A clearer statement if I ever heard one! Good for you and the other protesters!!!! Keep it up doll
Why the hatred of telescopes. What problem do telescopes cause that you are trying to solve?
I am currently sitting in a bar in La Palma, in the Spanish Canary islands, so I am a tad biased.
La Palma is the alternative site for TMT. The project's own research shows that every scientific goal for the project can be achieved here. A site has been identified on the Roque de Las Muchchchos. There is the infrastructure necessary and the agreements in place.
This little island is proud of it's place for world class astronomy and has some of the strictest light pollution controls in the World.
Why doesn't TMT Management 'bite the bullet' and just build TMT here. I can only assume that there are vested nationistic interests and sadly, probably certain people who stand to gain financially from building TMT on Mauna Kea. Please leave Mauna Kea sacred. Build TMT on La Palma.
Yes, we were really pushing that narrative (that TMT should just move to their alternate site) as we hadn't heard of any opposition.... until a few weeks ago when an environmental organization put out a letter stating that La Palma is already home to numerous telescopes and the impact of astronomy on La Palma may be quite negative. Certainly, it would serve our purposes to see TMT moved, but we do not want to support the oppression of another people or the destruction of another delicate environment. ♥️
I don't think that it really would bother many people in La Palma, certainly not the traditional inhabitants, the Guanches. I'm afraid they were all massacred in the 15th. Century!
Very informative! Thank you for standing up and being an ally to indigenous people!
Thank you so much for sharing and educating us. I so appreciate it and the passion you have for support + education 💕
This research has led me to some conclusions. First, there are indeed places on Mauna Kea that are sacred. These are places where Hawaiians have continuously participated in traditional and customary practices; so there are unquestionably specific geo-cultural sites on Mauna Kea that are protected, and the practices that are associated with these sites meet all the defining criteria of being traditional and customary.
But the extension of sacredness to the entire mountain and the air column above it gives rise to questions about how much cultural validation there is for the idea that this pre-empts any and all other uses of the mountain.
I found no documentation indicating that Mauna Kea, as a whole, is sacred. I could not find any reference to any blanket of sacredness over the entire mountain and the air column in any of the usual sources of validation - not even in the Kumulipo Hawaiian creation-origin chant, or in the writings of Native Hawaiian historians of the 19th century like Samuel Kamakau, David Malo, John Papa ‘I‘i and Kepelino.
Beyond the blanket-of-sacredness claim, there is nothing else on record to suggest any validated sacred places would be disturbed by the construction or operation of the TMT.
Validated sacred places include the peaks of Pu‘u o Kūkahau‘ula, Pu‘u Poli‘ahu and Pu‘u Lilinoe, Lake Waiau, and various heiau (temples), ‘ahu (altars), ana (caves), lua kā ko‘i (quarries), and ilina (burials).
In fact, I believe the decision about the TMT’s location was made to ensure that no sacred site was violated, nor access to any sacred site impeded. The telescope was also sited below the summit to minimize its visual obtrusiveness.
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“The TMT presents probably the greatest opportunity - the greatest cultural opportunity, religious opportunity - that we will ever have to do the one thing that is at the center of every cultural group. That is, search for the ancestors. Our story of creation begins with the night of Pō, with the darkness. I’m assuming that at some point in time, with projects like the TMT, we will actually be able to go back and find the Night of Pō. I cannot think of anything more significant than that.”
-Peter Apo, Office of Hawaiian Affairs trustee
Wow! You totally get it. And the fact you are not Hawaiian yet understand the issues is amazing. As a Hawaiian man I like to say to you thank you.
Least I can do, calling the big island home. Mahalo ♥️
She's a quick learner, super intelligent combined with living on DHHL land in contact with Maoli everday. Yep she totally gets it.✌
A similar situation is happening in Aotearoa New Zealand currently, where a building company have purchased sacred Maori land and want to build housing developments on it. Papakāinga Ihumātao is currently being protected by Kaumātua (elders) and others in peaceful civil disobedience, as Kaitiaki (protectors) of the stolen whenua (land).
I'm feeling a lot of intense anger and grief for the disgusting behaviour of governments towards indigenous people at the moment, its blood-boilingingly frustrating and heartbreaking how little respect is shown.
I heard about that struggle, mahalo for speaking of it here ♥️
Great video!!! Very educational, I had no idea this was going on. 😍👍🐇❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🐈😘😘🧘♀️🦔
"Talking and listening are mutually exclusive activities" YES, LILY!!! This video was incredibly well spoken. I'm so glad you're walking the walk in Hawai'i and sharing this.
Wow I didn't even hear anything about this! Who's going to use this telescope? I'm going to write to all the collages, NASA and anybody else who might use it and tell them what I think about the situation.
Mahalo! It really does help!
Mahalo! Please do!
Mahalo for all your energies towards protecting our Mauna Kea💝
@@c.kainoabugado7935 If it were not for the other telescopes I would be for using the Mauna Kea for Nuclear weapons testing just to stick it to jerks you like to block telescopes.
Only slightly kidding
Oh, @Paul Shipley! Please! Don't go out of your way for me, your life should not be inconvenienced due to the minute population of Kanaka Maoli loving our Mauna Kea so dearly and sacredly, where the bones of my ancestors lay. You go ahead with your nuclear activity in Hawaii. We were genocided already, nothing for you to risk now, so that means more results for yourself! I jest in deep sarcasm! Just like Kam IV told us Hawaiians about foreigners back in 1854 and how they come to Hawaii to enrich themselves at the cost of the Natives....sounds familiar 🤔. Silly aliens abound in nonsense 💡
YES SO TRUE.
Missed you! 💜💜💜
Sadly this is a 'follow the money' type of situation. It appears very similar to the Dakota pipe line fiasco, in that corporate interests out weigh the needs of the indigenous communities interests.