Whats crazy is i used to have so many problems with my old inkjeckta but I've threw in a 3.5 cam in it from 3.2 and now I've stopped using my packer almost completely. Machine just does what I want it to now lining and shading haha idk. Great stuff bro
The packer, unintentionally, became my go to.. and much of thd time i dont use anything else.. i dont own the shader as i had various, Cheyenne unlimited 3.5 and FK Xion 3.2.. but i did purchase the bishop wand liner.. it is a good machine and i do yse it, often, but if i had to choose, id drf go with the,packer as its,just all round versatile.. its,absolutely fantastic for smooth b&g.. i usually drop it yo 5.5v -6v and reduce my hand speed.. for (toward you) gentle drag brush shading.. it never ceases to amsze me how great it is and how,easy it makes my life.
The packer is great.. just a fantastic Lil bit of kit.. I have the liner aswell.. personally I do think it does a better job of lining, however, it does slow me down a bit The packer is great for lining and shading.. can get a Lil inflamed, but calms down after 15min if you move on to diff area. I like & prefer 4ml + strokes though... How you finding it?
my shader completely blew up and the smell of electrical wiring filled the shop… it is back with Bishpos as it is under warranty and I’ll wait to hear the outcome. I’ve had nothing but troubles with the critical Footswitch battery set up and have sadly gone back to using the rca cable for the liner and packer which I cannot fault, they are awesome I have just started using the inkjecta pen, which has taken me a lot of getting used to with the offset cartridge hole and with how fat it is in the hand, I bought it as a Shayda with the medium push rod and 3.5 cam When I adjusted to push rod for harder hit( because there was too much parallax in the bar ) it broke , Now I am running with a four mil cam and a heavier push rod and it is a fairly good all-round machine
I bought my first machine, (Packer) a year ago. I thought it would be a good general purpose machine. It would be nice if you made another video about the stroke of those two machines! :)
I run my packer at 5v and when I do white turn it down to 4.5v and I love it and a lot of artists don’t know how I can move so fast running it so low great video
Hi there!So i boight thw packer and i find it a fantastic machine!The only problem that i do have is that when i line it makes a pooll of ink i mean i have used other machines and i know howw to line...I get the hang at arpund 4.2 mm the same as the stroke and inly dip the needle in the cartidge without filling it...Does this happens to others?Maybe the needle hand should be larger than the stroke at this machine?
I use the bishop wand shader for quite a bit, I use the spectra xion every now and then, I just did a lot of color last night and just now wondering why I used my bishop shader instead of my xion! Lol
I’ve used Cheyenne,Fkirons ,& Recently got the 4.2 Power Wand Packer and it’s been the hardest to get used to..I rely on Hand Pressure so to get any dark tones I have to crank it up to 8volts when my FKirons hits just as hard on 6volts ..I Thought the Bishop was gonna to be next level but it’s just not for me
It's the total opposite for me, I had the flux max 4.0 which seemed alright, got a power wand packer and it made the flux max feel like trash, just spongy and slow.
Got a Packer Power Wand.. just before I saw Oliver Ayre using the Acus M1 😖 I'm a newbie on fake skin.. Got a cheapo Mast with adjustable stroke that i got first but it was cutting out so splashed out on Packer.. cant seem to find a groove with it, does churn up the fake skin when i get it wrong, woulda went for the M1 but now looking like i'll be getting the M1 & having 3 instead of just getting the M1 first, looked at the stainless steel grip for the Packer bit its about £150 which i think is a bit of a piss take
Hi Would you say shader is ideal for a tattooist who is used to give in machines and working on various delicate skin textures - I like to build on my shades and detail. Found the packer is much too brutal on the skin to do this. Would the shader be ideal for this? Or recommend another machine? I’m also wanting a machine that can do fine line as well. Thank you in advance :)
Best to go by the feel for it yourself as everyone is different. I can do a 15cm long line with a kwadron .30 9rslt within 2 seconds, I was on 11volts at the time, dynamic ink. Packing usually around 9-11 volts with a 7-15 curved mag
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What’s your current Machine?
Wand shader!! but i am saving up for the packer! =)
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I felt this in my soul. Immediately when you mentioned the packer.
Whats crazy is i used to have so many problems with my old inkjeckta but I've threw in a 3.5 cam in it from 3.2 and now I've stopped using my packer almost completely. Machine just does what I want it to now lining and shading haha idk. Great stuff bro
I love the inkjecta..I had an OG Flite and The Nano..got the OG actually tattooed on my leg I loved it that much
I'm doing a photo realistic actual size picture of my machine now I love that idea I need it on my leg brooo
The packer, unintentionally, became my go to.. and much of thd time i dont use anything else.. i dont own the shader as i had various, Cheyenne unlimited 3.5 and FK Xion 3.2.. but i did purchase the bishop wand liner.. it is a good machine and i do yse it, often, but if i had to choose, id drf go with the,packer as its,just all round versatile.. its,absolutely fantastic for smooth b&g.. i usually drop it yo 5.5v -6v and reduce my hand speed.. for (toward you) gentle drag brush shading.. it never ceases to amsze me how great it is and how,easy it makes my life.
Thank u Man U just changed everything bout my tattoos now 🫱🏽🫲🏼 been trynna decide which one to go w for months
How it is the Shader with lining? Do you have some opinions on fine line work with the packer? I usually go for the 3RL-5RL
The packer is great.. just a fantastic Lil bit of kit.. I have the liner aswell.. personally I do think it does a better job of lining, however, it does slow me down a bit
The packer is great for lining and shading.. can get a Lil inflamed, but calms down after 15min if you move on to diff area.
I like & prefer 4ml + strokes though...
How you finding it?
my shader completely blew up and the smell of electrical wiring filled the shop… it is back with Bishpos as it is under warranty and I’ll wait to hear the outcome.
I’ve had nothing but troubles with the critical Footswitch battery set up and have sadly gone back to using the rca cable for the liner and packer which I cannot fault, they are awesome
I have just started using the inkjecta pen, which has taken me a lot of getting used to with the offset cartridge hole and with how fat it is in the hand,
I bought it as a Shayda with the medium push rod and 3.5 cam
When I adjusted to push rod for harder hit( because there was too much parallax in the bar ) it broke ,
Now I am running with a four mil cam and a heavier push rod and it is a fairly good all-round machine
I bought my first machine, (Packer) a year ago. I thought it would be a good general purpose machine. It would be nice if you made another video about the stroke of those two machines! :)
Do you use the packer for both shading and lining? Can’t decide wether to go with the shader or the packer
What do you run for lining and shading on the packer
Hey Chris could you do a video on needle hang particularly shading
I run my packer at 5v and when I do white turn it down to 4.5v and I love it and a lot of artists don’t know how I can move so fast running it so low great video
What do you run for lining and shading on the packer
Thank you, very helpful! 😊
Hi there!So i boight thw packer and i find it a fantastic machine!The only problem that i do have is that when i line it makes a pooll of ink i mean i have used other machines and i know howw to line...I get the hang at arpund 4.2 mm the same as the stroke and inly dip the needle in the cartidge without filling it...Does this happens to others?Maybe the needle hand should be larger than the stroke at this machine?
I use the bishop wand shader for quite a bit, I use the spectra xion every now and then, I just did a lot of color last night and just now wondering why I used my bishop shader instead of my xion! Lol
Hi love your review, but can you review the Ai-tenitas prophet machine, i think this will be a good competitor of bishop, FK and cheyenne
Hay Chris, hope your all good brother
Wouldnt waste Ur money, ez Evo tech s black 1 is 3.5 and grey 1 is 4.0
I went on and bought a shitload of machines last year / this year just to turn back to my cheyenne hawk I started with years ago .. :(
I like the shader but it hits way too hard maybe I just need to get used to it
Is it good for lining also ?
@@grandmastagrimm8773 I use it every time im doing a fine line tattoo, I wouldnt recommend for needles higher than 7rl or up
I’ve used Cheyenne,Fkirons ,& Recently got the 4.2 Power Wand Packer and it’s been the hardest to get used to..I rely on Hand Pressure so to get any dark tones I have to crank it up to 8volts when my FKirons hits just as hard on 6volts ..I Thought the Bishop was gonna to be next level but it’s just not for me
It's the total opposite for me, I had the flux max 4.0 which seemed alright, got a power wand packer and it made the flux max feel like trash, just spongy and slow.
@@Adtatt crazy how this is ..Guess it has everything to do with our Hand Pressures
@@Adtattdo you recommend the packer for lines (fine line 3RL-5RL) ?
Got a Packer Power Wand.. just before I saw Oliver Ayre using the Acus M1 😖 I'm a newbie on fake skin.. Got a cheapo Mast with adjustable stroke that i got first but it was cutting out so splashed out on Packer.. cant seem to find a groove with it, does churn up the fake skin when i get it wrong, woulda went for the M1 but now looking like i'll be getting the M1 & having 3 instead of just getting the M1 first, looked at the stainless steel grip for the Packer bit its about £150 which i think is a bit of a piss take
Did you get the m1 yet?
Not yet .. had a set back a month or 2 but will get one@@del8044
Hi
Would you say shader is ideal for a tattooist who is used to give in machines and working on various delicate skin textures - I like to build on my shades and detail. Found the packer is much too brutal on the skin to do this. Would the shader be ideal for this? Or recommend another machine?
I’m also wanting a machine that can do fine line as well. Thank you in advance :)
Yes, the shader would be ideal for you in that case
@@ChrisRavage thank you 🙏
What voltage do you have the shader on when lining with 3RL 5RL needles?
7.5
What voltatage do you run for lining and shading on the packer
Best to go by the feel for it yourself as everyone is different.
I can do a 15cm long line with a kwadron .30 9rslt within 2 seconds, I was on 11volts at the time, dynamic ink.
Packing usually around 9-11 volts with a 7-15 curved mag
With packer at what voltage do you use for shading?
7.5 for shading
What do you run for lining and packing color on the packer
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