I test drove both and did ton of research. The Miata is slightly better with double wishbone suspension and actual beautiful engine bay. The shifter & clutch are slightly better. However I bought the BRZ because I need room for real subwoofer to complete the driving experience. If I could have a daily and afford a Miata as weekend car I would’ve done that. Still 100% happy with BRZ after 2 1/2 years and will buy another if anything happens.
Had an FR-S and apart from the torque dip, was an awesome car. What I like about these cars and an NB Miata that I owned was the about use of high RPMs but still not be going crazy fast and asking for ticket. Agree with the reviewer though, the sound of the Toybarus is a little weird, hopefully sme of the aftermarket exhausts can help.
The dealership disabled fake noise when I bought the car. Still replaced exhaust after tint & subwoofer. I chose AWE touring that sounds amazing but tad loud with back seats down.
What? Umm... We had this tS and the WRX RS at the track to drive back-to-back. We could lap roughly 2-sec/lap quicker in the WRX (but most of us found the BRZ more fun). The WRX just has so much more torque.
@@Sonic_1000 wheel horsepower has nothing to do with it. Why anyone would want less precision, less predictability, less communication, less grip in the wet and the dry, a narrower performance envelope in all weather conditions, and a lesser all around tire is beyond me. Sure, I prefer the Michelin based on experience, but there are plenty of other decent options, but a cheap tire? Never.
@@BrianMakse Still, your review is an outlier, which of course you are entitled to but you made it sound like limited BRZ is not an enjoyable sports car unlike the GR and tS. Seems exaggerated to say the least. BTW in your original review of the new BRZ you praised it constantly and even though you mentioned the suspension difference compared to the GR, you also said it’s down to each preference and that it’s not really noticeable unless you drive them back to back. So now suddenly the Limited BRZ sucks?
@@BrianMakse Still doesn’t explain why in your original review of the second gen BRZ you praised the car and even mentioned that the steering is sharper than the GR and here you trash it and tell us you don’t like the BRZ.
@@19hundoc47 except they have been failing very early at times and even had many warranty claims denied. Not a dumb comment. Who wants to spend 36k on a car for you to have the engine fail if you actually drive it like a sports car?
Great review Brian 🙏👍 MAGA 🇺🇸🇨🇦 I wish this car would have come with a more main stream 4 cylinder…the Boxer engine is nuisance when the car ages after warranty with oil leaks, oil leaks and oil leaks. Probably coolant and head gasket issues are guaranteed once it reaches higher mileage…200,000 kms. The Mazda Miata is a total gem and totally bulletproof reliable with minimal issues.
The Miata is well known for grenading transmissions. If you have direct experience with this car over 200,000kms please chime in. If not you probably shouldn't speculate.
@@bearclaw5115Yes, 70,000 kms on a 2.0 boxer engine with oil leaks and catalytic converter replaced. Disastrous vehicle especially if you daily them. These Subaru engines are strictly weekend toy.
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1:30 2850 lbs
3:00 Visibility
4:30 Take-off
6:30 Not the best sound, great manual
8:00 Made for cornering
10:20 Suspension tuning
11:25 tS
Hi Brian....do you like it better than a miata?
This is what I want to know too.
the ultimate question
I test drove both and did ton of research. The Miata is slightly better with double wishbone suspension and actual beautiful engine bay. The shifter & clutch are slightly better. However I bought the BRZ because I need room for real subwoofer to complete the driving experience. If I could have a daily and afford a Miata as weekend car I would’ve done that. Still 100% happy with BRZ after 2 1/2 years and will buy another if anything happens.
Had an FR-S and apart from the torque dip, was an awesome car. What I like about these cars and an NB Miata that I owned was the about use of high RPMs but still not be going crazy fast and asking for ticket. Agree with the reviewer though, the sound of the Toybarus is a little weird, hopefully sme of the aftermarket exhausts can help.
The dealership disabled fake noise when I bought the car. Still replaced exhaust after tint & subwoofer. I chose AWE touring that sounds amazing but tad loud with back seats down.
if youre a smaller person you can pull on new wrx all day in these. stock v stock.
What? Umm... We had this tS and the WRX RS at the track to drive back-to-back. We could lap roughly 2-sec/lap quicker in the WRX (but most of us found the BRZ more fun). The WRX just has so much more torque.
I'd argue you can get a base 86 add Eibach or equivalent springs, cheap summer tires and call it a day.
Cheap tires = bad idea
@@BrianMakse it's a 150whp car. It doesn't need top tier Michelin.
@@Sonic_1000 wheel horsepower has nothing to do with it.
Why anyone would want less precision, less predictability, less communication, less grip in the wet and the dry, a narrower performance envelope in all weather conditions, and a lesser all around tire is beyond me.
Sure, I prefer the Michelin based on experience, but there are plenty of other decent options, but a cheap tire? Never.
@@BrianMakse I think you miss my point. The base models come on cheap, garage oem tires anyway. Are they exploding? You're exaggerating my point.
They only changed the front dampers, no other significant suspension upgrades. You make it sound like a completely different car.
I articulated the specific differences of the tS.
@@BrianMakse Still, your review is an outlier, which of course you are entitled to but you made it sound like limited BRZ is not an enjoyable sports car unlike the GR and tS. Seems exaggerated to say the least. BTW in your original review of the new BRZ you praised it constantly and even though you mentioned the suspension difference compared to the GR, you also said it’s down to each preference and that it’s not really noticeable unless you drive them back to back. So now suddenly the Limited BRZ sucks?
@@Gurka84 Of course my review is an outlier. With decades of racing experience, I'm able clearly articulate the nuances of vehicle dynamics.
@@BrianMakse Still doesn’t explain why in your original review of the second gen BRZ you praised the car and even mentioned that the steering is sharper than the GR and here you trash it and tell us you don’t like the BRZ.
What about FA24 ENGINE reliability ????
No engine failures in this test. Just pure driving pleasure.
@BrianMakse
Clear after 15 minutes of test. The question after 50k miles...
RTV and oil pressure
@@itaybutavia1204 lol. No one knows about 50k miles. RTV is not an issue. Pressure drops can be, do you often track the car?
@@ruturaj47
No
@@itaybutavia1204 so that as well isn't any issue for you.
I like that car, but I hate the interior!
I just did a solid, while watching
Multiple posts on a video. You’re cringe bro
Engine failure has entered the chat
Warranty has entered the chat. Dumb comment
@@19hundoc47 except they have been failing very early at times and even had many warranty claims denied. Not a dumb comment. Who wants to spend 36k on a car for you to have the engine fail if you actually drive it like a sports car?
@@turbobros_online1561 got more made up stuff?
Great review Brian 🙏👍 MAGA 🇺🇸🇨🇦
I wish this car would have come with a more main stream 4 cylinder…the Boxer engine is nuisance when the car ages after warranty with oil leaks, oil leaks and oil leaks. Probably coolant and head gasket issues are guaranteed once it reaches higher mileage…200,000 kms.
The Mazda Miata is a total gem and totally bulletproof reliable with minimal issues.
Lol 😂, bringing politics to car review
@@ruturaj47Nah, unless he/she/they is a troll they meant Miatas Are Great Automobiles.
@@93455Driver sure 😂, MAGA isn't political at all, just car enthusiast community
The Miata is well known for grenading transmissions.
If you have direct experience with this car over 200,000kms please chime in. If not you probably shouldn't speculate.
@@bearclaw5115Yes, 70,000 kms on a 2.0 boxer engine with oil leaks and catalytic converter replaced. Disastrous vehicle especially if you daily them. These Subaru engines are strictly weekend toy.
$35k for too much slow for me.
Compared to what at $35k?