This is why I’m convinced their shuffler algo goes hard on killing your draws when you’re on a long win streak. It’s all built into the game to keep you playing and checking their store etc.
Last season I played a move deck and would pull Heimdal on Turn 6 right when I needed him so many times in a row, even after being on a win streak. Quit yo conspiracies
Humans evolved to remember bad experiences better than positive ones; you just aren't remembering/noticing the games where the Arishem players drew all random cards and retreated.
Arishem users with Arishem cards: I love this deck so much! This saved Marvel Snap for me! Me, who thought Arishem would be cool to have but only just started Series 3: END MY SUFFERING P L E A S E
Well you should blame SD for this. This game definitely not so friendly to the new comer. Token acquisition so bad and made the token cards are so expensive, no matter how good the new cards you will still missing many of the components because lack of way to unlock cards, and the matchmaking will kill you because once you reach series 3, you will meet every player. Also the fact that you can't got new cards from normal cache anymore made it this game a newbie killer. Even i a minimum spender player (Season pass only), still missing 9 cards and i Started playing 4 months after the game launch
@@renhardhalim I actually stopped right after anihilus (still like to watch the gameplay though)... when the key system came in, getting all cards was basically impossible, before that just buying the season pass meant you would most likely always have all cards if you started early. This plus the focus on annoying the opponent just made it not fun anymore for me. Playing against an arishem deck is just not fun, the fun of the game is strategy, and being able to predict what your opponent would do and counter, and with the current meta it's just impossible.
@@jjares the sad thing about this snap never been about predict. It's always about rng and Arishem made it for me because now i can put a most random cards into the deck and my opponent can't cheat. At least Arishem isn't at the level of Alioth was. That card literally secure you a win if you have prio
@@renhardhalimcompletely agree. It's like Arishem is broken but not unfair or insanely powerful. The randomness is fun for me plus I never feel like a jerk. I feel lucky to win through skill or lose because of RNG. This is how original Loki made me feel so yeah I expect a nerf to Arishem immediately, sadly
Yea, gotta love this game. The worst thing about this is that, okay, there are other decks, and replacement cards (for example Cable or Crystal for Agent Coulson), but when I see a deck, and have a few key cards (like Arishem, or Loki), but then need 5+ other cards... I just gotta suck it up and say "okay, I won't have this for another year, and lord knows what all these cards will do then", and be fine with it... There's no way to keep up with the amount of cards unless you follow their releases strictly (and often combined with 'throw money at the game'). Lord forbid you take a hiatus of a couple months. I've missed Sasquach, Red Hulk, Mockingbird, and a few other "a lot of power for their cost" types of cards just from taking a snap-vacation.
@@RegisKillbin Always important to think ahead, thanks Regis. From now on, I will always assume that there is a Hercules in the middle when I move cards.
I've been having fun running Arishem, Blob, Mockingbird, and then just 9 tech cards. You're way more reliant on Arishem cards, but also, you can get away with running literally every counter you might need lol
I still think the problem isn't Arishem alone but a deck that has Mocking Bird and Loki besides him. I was away from Snap since Hope's season, came back to try Arishem but I don't have Loki neither Mocking Bird. It did made my way to Platinum very easy, but not as easy as those playing those three cards together... Mocking Bird doesn't need a nerf by itself, that's for sure. She seems OK to me on other decks
I don't have Mockingbird and I rarely use Loki. A lot of the time you have key tech cards in your hand that you can't swap out. I'd argue that Sersi is more important than Loki.
I was on the verge of quitting Snap. Or at least dialing down the amount of time I played daily. I was bored. Then, Arishem came along and brought me back hardcore
This cart is dogshit to play against, scam this scam that and your you have a higher tampo too, great. Try to play something else now and it will be miserable
Arishem, despite what people want you to think, is a none of the risk all of the reward card, random cards always carry risk but usually it's a minor risk, maybe a location changes unfavorable, maybe you morph into a card that ruins your game plan. But arishem not only gives you random cards, it gives you the choice on whether to play them or not AND it gives you extra energy. And because of that, there is no gameplan to activly counter him. If your up against arishem you just have to hope and pray
Surprised that last player never moved their Nocturne. They were still locked in on left even without her there. Could have been worried about the replacement base screwing them, I guess.
He’s good and wins matches but he hasn’t been driving me nuts like so many other meta decks. That could change in time. I’ve been playing a pretty killer deck and have done well against a lot of Arishem.
Exactly but, a lot of snap players are a child or acting like a chind and can't think of this. Once that card beat them many times they bet that it's the card fault and not their fault.
Arishem feels like Hearthstone déja vu... Mana/energy cheat=powerful, and start of game effects=very powerful. Add to it that random generation is more powerful in Snap because of Cube equity and it's probably not surprising Arishem has some staying power.
This will sound arrogant, but I promise - I'm not trying to sound arrogant, I'm only trying to educate: This so-called "number one deck" gets easily defeated by the Dagger Clog deck I've been using. Simply put, if you can clog them with Titania, Green Goblin, rocks, and a White Widow's Bite (and then force their hand by playing Doc Ock into a lane), then they can have 1,000,000 energy - if they have nowhere to play their cards, you can Shang, Cannonball, and Dagger to your heart's content. Goes to show - it's not the deck, but how you use it.
So I made my own Mr. Arishem Foster Deck. The goal is to summon Mr. Negative into Jane, Blob, mystique, Zola and Ironman out. You got Adam Warlock and Crystal (Flex) incase you don’t get what you need you got Colson with Mirage, White Queen or Nick Fury on Flex. Throw Sersi in there for all the random cards and where ever Mr. Negative is. Last but not least Arishem. If it all works you got 2 blobs and 2 Ironman effects. You could get 3 Blobs 1 Ironman effect and 0 cards in Deck. If you want throw in Havoc for fun. Turn 5 you will always have 6 energy going forward. He’s a 2 cost that can get up to 8-10 power. (Just for fun but throw in anything else you want)
Legion, Mockingbird, Loki. These cards are just to valuable with little to no counters. You can't keep playing around Loki and Mockingbird with turn 3 mobius every game. Especially when Arishem kills their downside with extra energy.
14:05 I think this is a reference to that "influencer" guy that drink urine to keep his skin healthy. MoistCritikal made a video about it. The profile picture kinda looks like the dude.
Arisheim is an interesting experiment in changing the mana curve of the entire game. It just FEELS better to start with 2 energy. You just DO MORE and the game is more fun.
The problem with Arishem is Loki. Without Loki, Arishem is fine, tbh (easily countered, super random, etc) They need to limit the Loki Arishem interaction
Any deck can beat any deck. Its all luck of the draw. I smoked this deck with a freakin black swan bounce deck. You just gotta learn to accept the 1 cube loss and know when to peace out. Everyone is so quick to call the game broken just bcuz they cant win back 2 back consistently. Sorry, but you will have losing streaks. I dont have Arishem in my collection and it is what it is. Adapt to the game and the cards you have or step away for a week. Dont play if your not having fun.
@@user-fl5pc9zu7iWell doing that would unfortunately have the side effect of making deck building pointless, the cards should at least be of equal value or something to not make him completely unpredictable
@@eviltom17They’re probably referring to the bug where the cards added by Arishem are grey border and do not reflect whatever border/effect is on your Arishem (just like cards added by Loki, Coulson, Nick Fury, etc do). They should but they do not. They have said they are fixing that.
How gaming community work: Buffed: busted.. need to nerf em! get bored easily.. Nerfed: bought it and now they nerf em, dev didn't know what struggle I've been through for that one!
I dont have Arishem and I deeply enjoy playing against it because of the unpredictability. Ive had to adjust my playstyle but I'd rather adapt then continuously pick up a stale game.
Arishem is indeed busted. That said I think darkhawk. Mystique is still a very efficient counter. I ve had an easy climb using multiple decks all of them have the compulsory darkhawk mystique sera and rogue. I ve used negative versions. Blink electro big card versions and sera darkhawk mystique is a great counter. Doc oc is the only disruptive card to that combo. Then you need prio to play darkhawk and let doc oc play mystique for you. Even without prio alioth is a coin flip as darkhawk is able to flip a location you are losing by much. That said. I think it s the only reliable counter I have found. So although I had a pretty easy climb I had to include these 4 cards in every single deck so it was indeed boring. Whenever I tried to drop them things got significantly more difficult.
One of the best deck few days ago was running Cosmo, Sera Surfer on their Darkhawk-Mystique deck which pretty much almost a checkmate if you draw these 4. Cosmo T3/T4 followed by Sera T5 and then Darkhawk under cosmo + Mystique on T6. or T5 with Darkhawk under Cosmo and then Mystique + 3 drop
@@methanesulfonic surfer is also great. I also had fun with namora. And I made decks with a list that doesn t make you think that darkhawk is coming. Great for cube equity.
I play arishem with galactus and goblins. Suprisingly goblin is good to counter darkhawk. You see when i use blob, his power decreasing because the goblons, so he keep eating till reach near power 15 and make card in the deck less.
Thanks for the video and the deck. I'll be curious to see how they nerf Arishem, if they do. Fewer extra cards? Less extra energy per turn? It's tough to predict.
@@d.zuhdis.3275 No idea, but there's only so many dials you can turn on a card, and that's one of his biggest ones. Perhaps they can change it so you have seven energy on turn six or something like that; in the turns prior to that, you have the same amount as your opponent.
My idea for an Arishem nerf is to make it still add 12 cards and +1 max energy but remove half of your starting deck. It will nerf the good cards nature of Arishem decks, but also lower the power of cards like Darkhawk.
I like this a lot. I also think just changing it so that Arishem won't generate cards that started in your deck could work. Getting an extra Blob/Mockingbird/Rogue/Absorbing Man/Mystique/Phastos/Okoye/Twinjet. . . those are all such great hits and it feels like a lot of Arishem wins come from just getting lucky enough to double up on cards you were trying to play anyway
@@shardgunner4815yeah this is a good idea, there should be no double copy. Also they should fix blob and mystique/rogue interaction. They literally copy Blob on reveal ability when blob ongoing ability literally just made him not movable.
@@renhardhalim tbf, that's an intentional interaction. Mystique (and maybe absorbing man) were changed to work this way bc of electro. The cards say "if the last card you played has an Ongoing (Mys) / On Reveal (AbsMn), copy it's text". So, Absorbing Man and Mystique are meant to take any abilities a card might have, so long as their requirements are met. Whether they choose to change this interaction bc of Blob remains to be seen. I will say tho, my fav Arishem deck is one with Rogue, Mystique, Absorbing Man, and Arnim Zola. I just want a million blobs on board lol
Anything. You're so unlikely to draw any particular card in Arishem that you can just play any good card; probably skew towards more expensive cards that don't need a lot of supporting pieces. Namora has been an all star for me.
Regis you should read the cards lol during that game you played stegron. The card says move it one location to the right it was never going to go to fisk tower.
It’s only annoying because I’m playing against Arsham every single game. And there’s no strategy to counter it, it’s either have dark hawk or don’t have dark hawk….. sometimes I just auto retreat because I’m so sick of seeing that damn card
It's absolutely absurd how much cognitive dissonance the community is going through over this card. It's clearly busted and has completely morphed the metagame (for the worse imo) yet so many people want to plug their ears and act like it's perfectly fine despite all the stats saying otherwise. EDIT: All these responses pretty much proving my point 😂 Y'all ever stop to think that the reason why y'all think he's so much "fun" is because he's so busted and that you guys are able to win without much effort???
Agree dude, already tired of this card and it's sad vuz I was very hyped but only because I thought it would just be a fun and balanced card but instead is a fun a broken card and I don't enjoy those, feels bad to play against.
What do y’all think an Arashem nerf would look like? Obviously the stats can’t get much worse? Should it shuffle it more junk? I think that would make darkhawk an even better counter.
As it turns out having +1 energy from the start of the game is good... and I don't think this game has enough bad cards to make +12 random cards be bad as often as it would need to be for +1 energy to not be worth it.
Add series 3 cards that counter Arishem decks as well as Darkhawk and Cassandra Nova (pretty safe bet) while still standing on their own as respectable cards if your opponent isn't Arishem
I hate this deck so much. It's in 70% of my games. Arishem is fine, Ive been enjoying playing a Mr negative shell with it, just another way to get neg out on t3. It's the combo of quinjet, coulson and Loki that's making it busted. Blob mystique is also annoying but you don't even need to run that because everyone's playing Arishem so you just play scumbag Loki, get their mystique and blob and win.
I think that the best way to nerf this card is to make it pure random. The problem is the fact that you can still play most of your starting deck, so have his effect be this instead: At the start of the game, +1 Max Energy. Replace your starting deck with random cards of the same cost. Shuffle 6 random cards into your deck. You still get the energy cheating, but now you're truly playing a random deck and to compensate you now shuffle only 6 extra cards into your deck.
Then you will have literally no deckbuilding strategy. Just Arishem. That's not how card games should work. If you want to increase the randomness of Arishem, they could make him shuffle more cards so that the starting deck will even be less likely to appear.
@@d.zuhdis.3275 Card games also shouldn't have a card that puts you ahead on curve every single turn but here we are. Sure, let's make them shuffle in even more cards to make Darkhawk and the upcoming Cassandra Nova even stronger. And how many extra cards would it take for the starting deck appearance to be at an acceptable rate? My suggestion is pretty much the same except it doesn't needlessly inflate the deck even more.
They should treat Arishem's cards shuffled to your deck as "yours". At least quinjet wouldnt insta win your game on turn one or We just wait for Cassandra Nova(+Grandmaster)
Loki and Quinjet are the problem 100% the other cards are annoying, but the way they can replace any bad draw with double discount Loki cards is insane
A: You have to draw them both together and both cards are rather bad by themselves in Arishem. B: Loki isn't that good if you aren't swapping out a lot of cards, and Arishem has trouble filling their hand consistently.
@@freddysweeper You already have extra energy, you don't need the discount to play your whole hand most games. And with a 24 card deck, you need to play literally every card that generates cards to have a shot at seeing them consistently to fill your hand, and cards like Cable barely count because they often give you cheap cards. The cards aren't good in Arishem unless you high roll, and are often bad. That's just how the game plays out.
If i face this sort of deck i use a high evo hybrid with a pinch of bullshit to get the power decreases on joard and slap down luke cage and it usually wins
I just don't know how toy nerf arishem without ruining him. He could be a 7/0 and I'd still play him. And if you touch the energy he's just immediately garbage...
This card is definitely busted it’s extremely fun to play cause it’s not balanced you can beat it iv played a wong surfer deck and beat it iv played knull zola and beat it you can win against it cause there are weaknesses to it but the +1 energy is too much with the quin jet I feel it should give all the random cards more power instead to make it more fun to play against then being hit with a bunch of 6 and 5 drops a turn or 2 early
I've literally not gotten over 73 with this deck. I'm just a terrible player clearly who should give up. Been playing since the start and never hit inifinate. It's so discouraging.
Take out the +1 energy and Arishem would be more balanced. It’s just impossible to out tempo someone who starts the game with more energy. Also Loki probably needs a nerf too because cost reduction is so ridiculous. It’s frustrating because decks like Blackbolt and Junk got such heavy handed nerfs to multiple cards within those archetypes to the point where they aren’t even competitive anymore.
@@MrDoomsday7 Starting the game with more energy is broken. Cost reduction is hard to balance, why do you think Quinjet and Sera were nerfed to prevent cards being 0.
@@user-cj9se8ef7d Because they are series 3 and more players have access to them whereas arishem and loki are series 5 so less people have them also series 5 cards are valuable and expensive they don't need such a heavy nerf it would make them trash to play
Removing the extra energy straight up kills the card and don't give me this crap about nerfing mana cheat cz it's still going crazy with cards like sera hope and Loki+quinjet.
The best and only use of “yes all 24 ounces”
I also like to use it with my user name.
What I find absurd is that even thought Arishem decks have 24 cards, they still consistently manage to draw the exact cards they need.
This is why I’m convinced their shuffler algo goes hard on killing your draws when you’re on a long win streak. It’s all built into the game to keep you playing and checking their store etc.
Last season I played a move deck and would pull Heimdal on Turn 6 right when I needed him so many times in a row, even after being on a win streak. Quit yo conspiracies
Humans evolved to remember bad experiences better than positive ones; you just aren't remembering/noticing the games where the Arishem players drew all random cards and retreated.
Right? Some sort of curve is always in the opening hand!
@@ojizzle20 It would have to be a very complex algorithm to "kill your draws" in any sort of meaningful way. This definitely isn't a real thing
Arishem users with Arishem cards: I love this deck so much! This saved Marvel Snap for me!
Me, who thought Arishem would be cool to have but only just started Series 3: END MY SUFFERING P L E A S E
.... Why?
Well you should blame SD for this. This game definitely not so friendly to the new comer. Token acquisition so bad and made the token cards are so expensive, no matter how good the new cards you will still missing many of the components because lack of way to unlock cards, and the matchmaking will kill you because once you reach series 3, you will meet every player. Also the fact that you can't got new cards from normal cache anymore made it this game a newbie killer. Even i a minimum spender player (Season pass only), still missing 9 cards and i Started playing 4 months after the game launch
@@renhardhalim I actually stopped right after anihilus (still like to watch the gameplay though)... when the key system came in, getting all cards was basically impossible, before that just buying the season pass meant you would most likely always have all cards if you started early. This plus the focus on annoying the opponent just made it not fun anymore for me. Playing against an arishem deck is just not fun, the fun of the game is strategy, and being able to predict what your opponent would do and counter, and with the current meta it's just impossible.
@@jjares the sad thing about this snap never been about predict. It's always about rng and Arishem made it for me because now i can put a most random cards into the deck and my opponent can't cheat. At least Arishem isn't at the level of Alioth was. That card literally secure you a win if you have prio
@@renhardhalimcompletely agree. It's like Arishem is broken but not unfair or insanely powerful. The randomness is fun for me plus I never feel like a jerk. I feel lucky to win through skill or lose because of RNG. This is how original Loki made me feel so yeah I expect a nerf to Arishem immediately, sadly
That moment when you're missing 8 of the 12 cards in the deck 😅
Yea, gotta love this game.
The worst thing about this is that, okay, there are other decks, and replacement cards (for example Cable or Crystal for Agent Coulson), but when I see a deck, and have a few key cards (like Arishem, or Loki), but then need 5+ other cards... I just gotta suck it up and say "okay, I won't have this for another year, and lord knows what all these cards will do then", and be fine with it...
There's no way to keep up with the amount of cards unless you follow their releases strictly (and often combined with 'throw money at the game'). Lord forbid you take a hiatus of a couple months. I've missed Sasquach, Red Hulk, Mockingbird, and a few other "a lot of power for their cost" types of cards just from taking a snap-vacation.
I miss Mockingbird. I playing 2 years.
22:57 Old Steggy was on his mind 😅
New Steggy always moves a card 1 location to the right
I was just ready for... uh... Hercules mid! Two steps ahead as always!
@@RegisKillbin Of course 😅 lol
@@RegisKillbin Always important to think ahead, thanks Regis. From now on, I will always assume that there is a Hercules in the middle when I move cards.
Love your videos man! Been watching basically every day since I picked up snap again 2 months ago 🤠
I swear I don’t drink Urine
34:14 that whole time I was thinking of “Reverse Murphy’s law” with lockjaw (Whatever can go right, will go right) 😅
*insert good arishem card*
*insert good arishem card*
*repeat 9 more times*
*insert arishem*
you have now made a good arishem deck
I've been having fun running Arishem, Blob, Mockingbird, and then just 9 tech cards. You're way more reliant on Arishem cards, but also, you can get away with running literally every counter you might need lol
I still think the problem isn't Arishem alone but a deck that has Mocking Bird and Loki besides him.
I was away from Snap since Hope's season, came back to try Arishem but I don't have Loki neither Mocking Bird. It did made my way to Platinum very easy, but not as easy as those playing those three cards together...
Mocking Bird doesn't need a nerf by itself, that's for sure. She seems OK to me on other decks
I don't have Mockingbird and I rarely use Loki. A lot of the time you have key tech cards in your hand that you can't swap out. I'd argue that Sersi is more important than Loki.
@@PenitusVox interesting take... Sersi i do got, for Arishem i've opened 2 caches, first was her.
I'll try, thanks
what was the reference to "Me? Drinking Urine?" - felt like an inside joke I missed
Main problem is energy discount and always has been.
Quintet was one of thirst cards I cut from my Arishem deck. It's obviously really good, but way less fun
The "I am Spartacus" scene but it's all Regis' followers saying "I am Me Drinking Urine"
Arnim Zola read @10:25 is the reason I am dropping a like and subscribe.
I was on the verge of quitting Snap. Or at least dialing down the amount of time I played daily. I was bored. Then, Arishem came along and brought me back hardcore
Arishem just feels so good to play
need slightly buff i might say, make it 10 rando cards instead 12 maybe.
This cart is dogshit to play against, scam this scam that and your you have a higher tampo too, great. Try to play something else now and it will be miserable
It's stupid when is an extra energy Loki deck
@@nathantargaryenlauw7216hell no
Arishem, despite what people want you to think, is a none of the risk all of the reward card, random cards always carry risk but usually it's a minor risk, maybe a location changes unfavorable, maybe you morph into a card that ruins your game plan. But arishem not only gives you random cards, it gives you the choice on whether to play them or not AND it gives you extra energy. And because of that, there is no gameplan to activly counter him. If your up against arishem you just have to hope and pray
15:15 Ben Brode hand coded that bot and named it himself.
Surprised that last player never moved their Nocturne. They were still locked in on left even without her there. Could have been worried about the replacement base screwing them, I guess.
7:10 B R O
HOW DID YOU GET SUCH A GOOD COULSON PULL
THOSE ARE LITERALLY SOME OF THE BEST ARISHEM CARDS IN THAT COST RANGE
He’s good and wins matches but he hasn’t been driving me nuts like so many other meta decks. That could change in time. I’ve been playing a pretty killer deck and have done well against a lot of Arishem.
Exactly but, a lot of snap players are a child or acting like a chind and can't think of this. Once that card beat them many times they bet that it's the card fault and not their fault.
Arishem feels like Hearthstone déja vu... Mana/energy cheat=powerful, and start of game effects=very powerful. Add to it that random generation is more powerful in Snap because of Cube equity and it's probably not surprising Arishem has some staying power.
This will sound arrogant, but I promise - I'm not trying to sound arrogant, I'm only trying to educate:
This so-called "number one deck" gets easily defeated by the Dagger Clog deck I've been using.
Simply put, if you can clog them with Titania, Green Goblin, rocks, and a White Widow's Bite (and then force their hand by playing Doc Ock into a lane), then they can have 1,000,000 energy - if they have nowhere to play their cards, you can Shang, Cannonball, and Dagger to your heart's content.
Goes to show - it's not the deck, but how you use it.
So I made my own Mr. Arishem Foster Deck. The goal is to summon Mr. Negative into Jane, Blob, mystique, Zola and Ironman out. You got Adam Warlock and Crystal (Flex) incase you don’t get what you need you got Colson with Mirage, White Queen or Nick Fury on Flex. Throw Sersi in there for all the random cards and where ever Mr. Negative is. Last but not least Arishem.
If it all works you got 2 blobs and 2 Ironman effects. You could get 3 Blobs 1 Ironman effect and 0 cards in Deck.
If you want throw in Havoc for fun. Turn 5 you will always have 6 energy going forward. He’s a 2 cost that can get up to 8-10 power. (Just for fun but throw in anything else you want)
Yo regis, modify your untapped deck, the deck there has Hydra Bob instead of super skrull
Oh thanks, haha, I added him to finish the weekend quest.
@@RegisKillbin based
Legion, Mockingbird, Loki. These cards are just to valuable with little to no counters. You can't keep playing around Loki and Mockingbird with turn 3 mobius every game. Especially when Arishem kills their downside with extra energy.
The eyes of arishem must be glowing a bit more in thumbnail 😇
14:05 I think this is a reference to that "influencer" guy that drink urine to keep his skin healthy. MoistCritikal made a video about it. The profile picture kinda looks like the dude.
Amazing deck I tried it, I don’t have Blob or Mockingbird but I still haven’t lost a game. I substituted blob for red hulk and Rouge for Mockingbird.
Arisheim is an interesting experiment in changing the mana curve of the entire game. It just FEELS better to start with 2 energy. You just DO MORE and the game is more fun.
for ppl who have it
The Nerf:
Arishem 6 - 7
Shuffle in your deck 12 cards from your collection.
Say what you will but i enjoy the arishem meta way more than the Loki or mill meta
The last time I played I had like 6 cards left to unlock, now I have 60 lmao. I have no idea what’s going on anymore
The problem with Arishem is Loki. Without Loki, Arishem is fine, tbh (easily countered, super random, etc)
They need to limit the Loki Arishem interaction
Regis clearly forgot Stegron only sends the card one space to the right
I find it hard to understand how you can get so many cubes from this, as all opps seem to be very eager to retreat!
Any deck can beat any deck. Its all luck of the draw. I smoked this deck with a freakin black swan bounce deck. You just gotta learn to accept the 1 cube loss and know when to peace out. Everyone is so quick to call the game broken just bcuz they cant win back 2 back consistently. Sorry, but you will have losing streaks. I dont have Arishem in my collection and it is what it is. Adapt to the game and the cards you have or step away for a week. Dont play if your not having fun.
I just got my golden arishem. Hopefully, if they nerf him its not too hard, and hopefully, they will fix the bug with him soon
How about replasing your whole deck?
@@user-fl5pc9zu7iWell doing that would unfortunately have the side effect of making deck building pointless, the cards should at least be of equal value or something to not make him completely unpredictable
What's the bug? I haven't come across one.
@@eviltom17They’re probably referring to the bug where the cards added by Arishem are grey border and do not reflect whatever border/effect is on your Arishem (just like cards added by Loki, Coulson, Nick Fury, etc do). They should but they do not. They have said they are fixing that.
@eviltom17 The cards he generates don't share his border and split
How gaming community work:
Buffed: busted.. need to nerf em! get bored easily..
Nerfed: bought it and now they nerf em, dev didn't know what struggle I've been through for that one!
Played about a 100 games with this deck and had terrible hands/Arishem draws in 95 of them. I'm sure it's great when RNGesus is on your side.
In blob we trust
The obvious nerf to me is arishem starts in your opening hand, given you one less chance to draw a good card, and it would still be good
If that happens arishem need to go to atleast 10 power lmao cause 7 power for 7 nrg is trash
@@MrDoomsday7we're trying to nerf him not buff him 😂
This deck is incredibly broken. I dont even have blob or mocking bird. Subbed in red hulk and blue marvel. I went from 81 to 93 in a day.
Always watch the outro until the pixel bats.
I have lost Balatro Wheel of Fortune way more than 1 in 4, and drawn Blob in an Arishem Deck way, way more than 10 in 24.
It's def not Arishem that needs a nerf but cards like Blob, Mockingbird, etc. These cards are just so good with Arishem.
I dont have Arishem and I deeply enjoy playing against it because of the unpredictability. Ive had to adjust my playstyle but I'd rather adapt then continuously pick up a stale game.
Just waiting on Blob to appear in my spotlight chashes
37:30 The title says that the right location is "White Hot Room, but it's definitely "Black Hot Room" 😅
I accept that I didn't get Mockingbird on release but man they do not want me to get it in the store!
Arishem is indeed busted. That said I think darkhawk. Mystique is still a very efficient counter. I ve had an easy climb using multiple decks all of them have the compulsory darkhawk mystique sera and rogue. I ve used negative versions. Blink electro big card versions and sera darkhawk mystique is a great counter. Doc oc is the only disruptive card to that combo. Then you need prio to play darkhawk and let doc oc play mystique for you. Even without prio alioth is a coin flip as darkhawk is able to flip a location you are losing by much.
That said. I think it s the only reliable counter I have found. So although I had a pretty easy climb I had to include these 4 cards in every single deck so it was indeed boring. Whenever I tried to drop them things got significantly more difficult.
One of the best deck few days ago was running Cosmo, Sera Surfer on their Darkhawk-Mystique deck which pretty much almost a checkmate if you draw these 4.
Cosmo T3/T4 followed by Sera T5 and then Darkhawk under cosmo + Mystique on T6.
or T5 with Darkhawk under Cosmo and then Mystique + 3 drop
@@methanesulfonic surfer is also great. I also had fun with namora. And I made decks with a list that doesn t make you think that darkhawk is coming. Great for cube equity.
I do also like that arishem players are confident and they snap quite often.
only card I spent 4 caches on and I dont even regret it..... yet
I love Arishem so much. Every game is unique and so much more fun than I’ve played before
i want to take this moment and clap back at the people that said cable doesn't make it into this deck when i asked if it was good.
yo, i'm so bummed i missed out on the Arishem card. i used 3 spotlight keys and didn't hit, what a shame
I play arishem with galactus and goblins. Suprisingly goblin is good to counter darkhawk. You see when i use blob, his power decreasing because the goblons, so he keep eating till reach near power 15 and make card in the deck less.
Thanks for the video and the deck. I'll be curious to see how they nerf Arishem, if they do. Fewer extra cards? Less extra energy per turn? It's tough to predict.
How would they give it less extra energy per turn? Half an energy? Lol
@@d.zuhdis.3275 No idea, but there's only so many dials you can turn on a card, and that's one of his biggest ones. Perhaps they can change it so you have seven energy on turn six or something like that; in the turns prior to that, you have the same amount as your opponent.
Fewer extra cards is a clear buff not a nerf. They could go the Hela route where the cards he generates have less power.
The cards shuffled into the deck are a weakness, not a strength. They'd probably increase it to 16 cards shuffled in or something.
@@Kolby3185 Definitely a good option.
It’s the MVP LEGION 🤩
I love how everyone is commenting about Arishem card nerfs and not about the guy who definitely isn’t drinking urine
My idea for an Arishem nerf is to make it still add 12 cards and +1 max energy but remove half of your starting deck. It will nerf the good cards nature of Arishem decks, but also lower the power of cards like Darkhawk.
I like this a lot. I also think just changing it so that Arishem won't generate cards that started in your deck could work. Getting an extra Blob/Mockingbird/Rogue/Absorbing Man/Mystique/Phastos/Okoye/Twinjet. . . those are all such great hits and it feels like a lot of Arishem wins come from just getting lucky enough to double up on cards you were trying to play anyway
@@shardgunner4815yeah this is a good idea, there should be no double copy. Also they should fix blob and mystique/rogue interaction. They literally copy Blob on reveal ability when blob ongoing ability literally just made him not movable.
@@renhardhalim tbf, that's an intentional interaction. Mystique (and maybe absorbing man) were changed to work this way bc of electro. The cards say "if the last card you played has an Ongoing (Mys) / On Reveal (AbsMn), copy it's text". So, Absorbing Man and Mystique are meant to take any abilities a card might have, so long as their requirements are met. Whether they choose to change this interaction bc of Blob remains to be seen.
I will say tho, my fav Arishem deck is one with Rogue, Mystique, Absorbing Man, and Arnim Zola. I just want a million blobs on board lol
@@shardgunner4815 yeah i also like this too. But that combos literally made me play Yu-Gi-Oh while my opponent play Snap 😂
My other idea is to make him limit you hand size to 5 or 6 instead of 7
nerf: you can only play 2 cards each turn
I wish I knew how people determine the best decks, because no matter what I play. I am perfectly counterdecked and lose
Yes keep playing Doc Oc, I so rarely lose to that card.
But you CAN move Blob now.
Arishem balance may still the same but with add description like cards cant be discounted except thru location
Alioth swap ideas?
Leech?
Anything. You're so unlikely to draw any particular card in Arishem that you can just play any good card; probably skew towards more expensive cards that don't need a lot of supporting pieces. Namora has been an all star for me.
You could have valkyried early and stopped their annihilus anyway, as well as lock them to 12 power right.
Regis you should read the cards lol during that game you played stegron. The card says move it one location to the right it was never going to go to fisk tower.
It’s only annoying because I’m playing against Arsham every single game. And there’s no strategy to counter it, it’s either have dark hawk or don’t have dark hawk….. sometimes I just auto retreat because I’m so sick of seeing that damn card
I love Arishem :)
Doctor Arishemapus, bwaaaaaah!
Would Darkhawk be the best replacement for Legion? Or just a tech card like Rogue or Enchantress? Cosmo? 🤔
Nothing can really beat Legion, his ability is so cool and unique. MAYBE scarlett since she can change a location.
It's absolutely absurd how much cognitive dissonance the community is going through over this card. It's clearly busted and has completely morphed the metagame (for the worse imo) yet so many people want to plug their ears and act like it's perfectly fine despite all the stats saying otherwise.
EDIT: All these responses pretty much proving my point 😂 Y'all ever stop to think that the reason why y'all think he's so much "fun" is because he's so busted and that you guys are able to win without much effort???
Agree dude, already tired of this card and it's sad vuz I was very hyped but only because I thought it would just be a fun and balanced card but instead is a fun a broken card and I don't enjoy those, feels bad to play against.
git gud
You definitely play knull zola
We play games for fun. Arishem is fun. 🤷♂️
Anyway, the card is fun
What do y’all think an Arashem nerf would look like? Obviously the stats can’t get much worse? Should it shuffle it more junk? I think that would make darkhawk an even better counter.
Either more random cards added or starts in your hand or an extra ability that stops the cards from getting discount
Hope i can finally play Arisham / Mockingbird in December.
At least you got lucky enough to get Mockingbird, Blob and Loki, i ain’t got any of them
As it turns out having +1 energy from the start of the game is good... and I don't think this game has enough bad cards to make +12 random cards be bad as often as it would need to be for +1 energy to not be worth it.
Yes so i don't have Alioth OR Blob, kinda f*cked for this one but the deck seems so freakin strong
... how the hell do you fix this card?? Maybe just -1 Cost on all the cards it generates?
Cassandra nova will be here in a few weeks, she'll do a fine enough job
Add series 3 cards that counter Arishem decks as well as Darkhawk and Cassandra Nova (pretty safe bet) while still standing on their own as respectable cards if your opponent isn't Arishem
I hate this deck so much. It's in 70% of my games.
Arishem is fine, Ive been enjoying playing a Mr negative shell with it, just another way to get neg out on t3.
It's the combo of quinjet, coulson and Loki that's making it busted. Blob mystique is also annoying but you don't even need to run that because everyone's playing Arishem so you just play scumbag Loki, get their mystique and blob and win.
The rock has a variant !?!!?.
I think that the best way to nerf this card is to make it pure random. The problem is the fact that you can still play most of your starting deck, so have his effect be this instead:
At the start of the game, +1 Max Energy. Replace your starting deck with random cards of the same cost. Shuffle 6 random cards into your deck.
You still get the energy cheating, but now you're truly playing a random deck and to compensate you now shuffle only 6 extra cards into your deck.
Then you will have literally no deckbuilding strategy. Just Arishem. That's not how card games should work.
If you want to increase the randomness of Arishem, they could make him shuffle more cards so that the starting deck will even be less likely to appear.
@@d.zuhdis.3275
Card games also shouldn't have a card that puts you ahead on curve every single turn but here we are.
Sure, let's make them shuffle in even more cards to make Darkhawk and the upcoming Cassandra Nova even stronger.
And how many extra cards would it take for the starting deck appearance to be at an acceptable rate?
My suggestion is pretty much the same except it doesn't needlessly inflate the deck even more.
Nah I mean might as well make 1 card decks cz this is a shit change
Also you make me glad sd doesn't take our suggestions Well at least not all 😂
My variance must be shit. Went on a 5 game losing streak with this deck....
They should treat Arishem's cards shuffled to your deck as "yours". At least quinjet wouldnt insta win your game on turn one
or
We just wait for Cassandra Nova(+Grandmaster)
Loki and Quinjet are the problem 100% the other cards are annoying, but the way they can replace any bad draw with double discount Loki cards is insane
A: You have to draw them both together and both cards are rather bad by themselves in Arishem.
B: Loki isn't that good if you aren't swapping out a lot of cards, and Arishem has trouble filling their hand consistently.
I don't like playing Loki. Most of the time the cards in my hand were better than the ones I got from the opponent
@@philipweidig270 Quinjet is bad on its own? When it discounts half your deck at a base? Hmm
And Coulson, Cable, ect deal with point B
@@freddysweeper You already have extra energy, you don't need the discount to play your whole hand most games.
And with a 24 card deck, you need to play literally every card that generates cards to have a shot at seeing them consistently to fill your hand, and cards like Cable barely count because they often give you cheap cards.
The cards aren't good in Arishem unless you high roll, and are often bad. That's just how the game plays out.
If i face this sort of deck i use a high evo hybrid with a pinch of bullshit to get the power decreases on joard and slap down luke cage and it usually wins
My take from this video, Legion wins games.
Would definitely not call this the #1 deck. I am losing about 75% of the time with it.
All u need is cosmo to back up the dark hawk
I just don't know how toy nerf arishem without ruining him. He could be a 7/0 and I'd still play him. And if you touch the energy he's just immediately garbage...
Just add more random cards?
I think arishem should have 10 power ngl
Yeah Arishem is DEFINITELY getting nerfed. Good cards never last
nice video
How do you even go about nerfing him tho like without the +energy hed be trash and reducing the cards he gets wouldn't change much
This card is definitely busted it’s extremely fun to play cause it’s not balanced you can beat it iv played a wong surfer deck and beat it iv played knull zola and beat it you can win against it cause there are weaknesses to it but the +1 energy is too much with the quin jet I feel it should give all the random cards more power instead to make it more fun to play against then being hit with a bunch of 6 and 5 drops a turn or 2 early
Hey Regis will you stream again anytime soon?
I dont think I can go back from arishem. the extra energy just speeds up the game and they allow me to play cards ill prob never own.
Arishem is not getting nerf. His supporting cards will most likely get nerfed.
loki needs to get gone and mockingbird
Dont have Blob, any swaps?
You cannot swap Blob in an Arishem deck. He is core.
tech rogue to steal opponents blob
I've literally not gotten over 73 with this deck. I'm just a terrible player clearly who should give up. Been playing since the start and never hit inifinate. It's so discouraging.
Take out the +1 energy and Arishem would be more balanced. It’s just impossible to out tempo someone who starts the game with more energy. Also Loki probably needs a nerf too because cost reduction is so ridiculous. It’s frustrating because decks like Blackbolt and Junk got such heavy handed nerfs to multiple cards within those archetypes to the point where they aren’t even competitive anymore.
Lmao if arishem +1 energy is gone nobody would play him and same goes for loki altering his ability would make him trash
@@MrDoomsday7 Starting the game with more energy is broken. Cost reduction is hard to balance, why do you think Quinjet and Sera were nerfed to prevent cards being 0.
@@user-cj9se8ef7d Because they are series 3 and more players have access to them whereas arishem and loki are series 5 so less people have them also series 5 cards are valuable and expensive they don't need such a heavy nerf it would make them trash to play
Removing the extra energy straight up kills the card and don't give me this crap about nerfing mana cheat cz it's still going crazy with cards like sera hope and Loki+quinjet.
Run an Arishem deck without Blob. That’s so boring running the same win condition.