Sony WH-1000XM5 vs AirPods Max | I'm Disappointed

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  • Sony WH1000-XM5 vs Airpods Max, the two best headphones on the market. Last time I said Sony was the winner, but is that true this time?
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  • @Jacob32905
    @Jacob32905 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    I got the Xm5s and I'm really happy with them. I feel like Sony put a lot of thought into the design with the adaptive mode and the silence mode is sick too because having to pause or take the headphones off is super annoying. I like the aesthetic as theu are a little less bulky than the Air Pods. Honestly though the number one reason was that I use Android and I felt like the Max wouldn't work as well with my OS .

    • @jejdh666
      @jejdh666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you can put your hand to the right ear cup and you can hear the other person

    • @ebenwilson8266
      @ebenwilson8266 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said

    • @user-qn1zj5bs5p
      @user-qn1zj5bs5p 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i also feel disappointed because Space One is way better than both of them

    • @rypiyx
      @rypiyx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yh i have them too but yh sound is not as good as the maxes but over all with design functionality and buildquality im still happier with them than the xm4s and the airpods are just far to expensive at the moment im not willing to pay 570 dollars for them

    • @yooyoo8637
      @yooyoo8637 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rypiyxyeah, lightning cable also..

  • @rjulius917
    @rjulius917 ปีที่แล้ว +1067

    tbh bruh whenever i go to the apple store i literally go to the pro maxes and listen to music for like 10 min lol imma see if my wife can slide me these jawns 😂😂😅

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +92

      WHALE rumor has it apple might be coming out with a version 2 later this year.... So I'd wait to buy 👀👀👀👀

    • @luv2stack
      @luv2stack ปีที่แล้ว +25

      "bruh"

    • @good-tn9sr
      @good-tn9sr ปีที่แล้ว +98

      same my wife bought her boyfriend these last christmas, hoping she’ll remember me this christmas 🤞

    • @Corwinwill
      @Corwinwill ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MarcTaraz haven’t heard thing quite yet. Check in September 7th!

    • @rawnuhld
      @rawnuhld ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@good-tn9sr WHAT ⁉️⁉️⁉️🤨

  • @leanderzulu3494
    @leanderzulu3494 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    I picked up a refurb XM5 and have been super impressed so far. I wear my headphones as part of my noise cancelling aviation headset (wear them for 15 hours a day sometimes) and the XM5 not only is more comfortable but it sounds more clear and balanced than the XM4 I used to rock. The noise cancelling is better in the XM4 with the engine noise on the airplane but everywhere else the XM5 noise cancelling is better. I'm hopeful Sony will update the noise cancelling from auto to allow a manual calibration like the XM4 as I feel that would probably work better on airplanes / buses / trains.
    As far as audio quality the XM4 has way more bass yes but the XM5 sounds really great too. I would say the XM5 has the better audio quality. The XM4 is muddy and boomy. Wavelet is a must have app for Android users. So far I definitely don't regret upgrading from XM4 to XM5. These will serve me well for years to come

    • @kelseymii921
      @kelseymii921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for commenting your experience, I’ve been eyeing the xm4 and xm5 refurbished but idk if I can trust Amazon’s refurbished electronics 😅

    • @leanderzulu3494
      @leanderzulu3494 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chhoyla well the XM4 look like XM3 too so there's more of them out in the wild. I haven't seen an XM5 yet either and I travel for work. I'm even happier with the XM5 with the new update a few weeks back. It's nearly perfect

    • @amitabhshekhar2558
      @amitabhshekhar2558 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leanderzulu3494 which version update?? i cant see any update after Version 1.1.3 and they came in June itself. Even sony website doesnt mention any new update release!!

    • @leanderzulu3494
      @leanderzulu3494 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amitabhshekhar2558 I just looked. September 6th was when the update was released on the headphones connect app for the XM5 that improved the auto noise cancelling

    • @ClintSevilla
      @ClintSevilla ปีที่แล้ว

      Is agree

  • @guycortesi
    @guycortesi ปีที่แล้ว +434

    Good comparison. I like the AirPods Max since I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem. They handoff audio very well when switching devices. I also really like the AirPods transparency mode and noise cancelling. You’re probably right that the XM4’s are a great value. Now that the AirPods Max have been around for a while, the discounting is even better than $439 at times, so it’s worth doing some shopping for any of these devices.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you!

    • @user-sf9gs2pg1b
      @user-sf9gs2pg1b ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I bought both and intended to return the WH1000xm5s as I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem as well (Apple Watch, iPhone, iMac, iPad Pro, AirPods Pro). The wh1000xm5s just felt more comfortable (the AirPods Max made my ears itch). The ugly bra case and the fact they don’t turn off really hurt me. The sound is SIGNIFICANTLY better on the wh1000xm5s, I was blown away because I’ve never heard audio like that before in my life. Songs I had heard before literally sounded different when wearing the xm5s. I was shocked. The Max just sounded like normal.

    • @xiaoxinbenjy
      @xiaoxinbenjy ปีที่แล้ว

      Gonna use Airpods Max for my android phone also 🎉

    • @kokodrove
      @kokodrove ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@da_vidffm Its not about having money or not, its about knowing how to use it wisely. No brain?

    • @jamonleecarter8698
      @jamonleecarter8698 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kokodrove LOL the guy clearly didn't share about using it wisely. No brain?

  • @alfiemarie
    @alfiemarie ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i really love the design tho of the XM5s! so sleek. i got the silver one which looked more like an off-white which i love, but i don't know if im obsessed with the sound yet. now im curious what the the XM4 sounds like...

    • @ansgarbavendiek8350
      @ansgarbavendiek8350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have to turn of "Focus on Voice" in the Ambient Sound Control. This will give you the best experience with this Headphone....

  • @Maj0rTac0
    @Maj0rTac0 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I had a different experience on the XM4 when it comes to comfort, the clamping force hurts the back of my ears. You're right on the shape of the users head. Good thing my wife is able to use it. She's also an apple user so it was really nice that I was able pass it to her after 3 months usage. I got the XM5 and it was way more comfortable to me. As an android user, I enjoy the sound quality with LDAC and after adjusting the EQ

    • @DennisSchmitz
      @DennisSchmitz ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here, had the XM3 before the XM5, The XM3 were quite painful after just a few hours, while I can wear my XM5 the whole day.
      Also the sound with some EQ setting and avoiding AAC on Android (both SBC and LDAC are fine) at any cost is quite great unlike my XM3 before.
      My EQ settings:
      400: -6
      1K: +1
      2.5K: +2
      6.3K: +1
      16K: +5
      Clear Bass: -2

    • @rickmorty7284
      @rickmorty7284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've had two different units of XM4s. The second one had greater clamping force than the first unit that I returned. Perhaps it depends on the specific unit?

    • @Artaxerxes.
      @Artaxerxes. ปีที่แล้ว

      Xm4 fit extremely well on my head. Not true with airpods

    • @SuperFilmregisseur
      @SuperFilmregisseur 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So the xm3 and 4 didn't have ldac?

  • @urbaneplanner
    @urbaneplanner ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have xm4s and they are pretty good - one thing people may want to be aware of though is the implementation of a “voice assist” - this is a voice that says things such as “device two disconnected” - and which can not be turned off. Otherwise the headphones seem great but the intrusive voice assist may be annoying enough to make people look for alternatives

  • @Sh4kki
    @Sh4kki ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Sidenote: LDAC lossless codec only works with Android Phones. Also if you use multipoint 2 system at once LDAC is automatically disabled. On my Fold 3 and Fold 4 i have no problem with the XM5 they sound great, especially with LDAC. Since you use an iPhone it could be caused by the worse SBC / AAC codec

    • @Erg893
      @Erg893 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, dude, I‘m pretty sure you wouldn’t hear a difference when not knowing what codec you‘re using

    • @azhariarif
      @azhariarif ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Erg893 There is a difference. LDAC makes your music sound more 'alive'. The sub-bass is deeper and vocals sounds clearer. LDAC is superior than AAC.

    • @christopherjc54
      @christopherjc54 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Erg893 Think of it like 1080p vs 4k. Most people won't notice, but those that do really enjoy the difference

    • @venkateshyr8844
      @venkateshyr8844 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sony xm5 now supports ldac for multidevice now only update arrived

    • @mariojuliny1563
      @mariojuliny1563 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree with you. The difference between AAC and LDAC at max bitrate is huge. Of course only on androind. And with good sound source. I use Tidal with cd quality flac stream.

  • @GaryJahman
    @GaryJahman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First time watching one of your vids and I’m glad I did! Great work! Greetings from Amsterdam!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to the channel! I’m so glad you enjoyed! Thank you for watching and for the kind words!

  • @rodrigoaristeu
    @rodrigoaristeu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the comparison I was waiting for! Thanks!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are most welcome! Thank you for watching!

  • @nathanreedy4380
    @nathanreedy4380 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I picked up a pair of the XM4's late last year after watching numerous reviews on them & seeing them being named consistently high on recommended to buy list & after 13 months, I really like them & I have no complaints. Usually I feel like it's rude to wear headphones & have a conversation with another person (a quick question is different) & for that, the quick question(s) the transparency mode is okay. If I need to or someone wants to have a conversation with me, I will just take the headphones off. I also just from the looks of it prefer the build of the xm4's over the xm5's (I would be too leery of the cups separating from the narrow part that connects to the headband. And besides comfort for long listening sessions, the sound quality is my next top priority & I like & can't complain about the Sound quality of my XM4's & after what you said about the xm5's sound quality, I am glad that I just got the xm4's last year.

  • @MrBerksta
    @MrBerksta ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just discovered your channel! Happy I did mate. Keep up the good work
    🤜🏼💥🤛🏻

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! Welcome to the channel! ❤️

  • @tyson464
    @tyson464 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I must say, your video quality is amazing, why don't you have at least 500k subs with this level of production.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why thank you so much! You are far too kind! I'm so glad you enjoyed ☺️

  • @ChristinaEileen
    @ChristinaEileen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all of this information I learn so much from you 🥰🥰

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I could help ❤️

  • @dkojongian
    @dkojongian ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see your video… Will keep my Airpods Max & Sony XM4 for a while then. Would you compare the Airpods Max with Sennheiser Momentum 4?

  • @FranBasel
    @FranBasel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excelent analysis between the products. You were very detailed about all of them and I got all the information I needed to buy one of them. Thanks!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you found it helpful!!

  • @derek1258
    @derek1258 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    I bought the AirPods Max a couple weeks ago and ended up returning them and getting the Sony XM5s shortly after. I am an iPhone user, and while I absolutely LOVED the AirPods Max, they didn’t seem like $550 headphones outside of the build quality in my opinion. There are certain aspects of the AirPods Max that very clearly trumped the XM5s such as transparency mode. However after watching countless reviews and comparisons WHILE having the AirPods Max, the Sony’s just seemed like the better deal overall. They have far better battery life, you can actually power them off, the ANC is far better in my opinion, and they actually come with a hard case. Not being able to fully power off the AirPods Max and that sad excuse of a “case” they come with. I don’t know what Apple was thinking with that. And while the AirPods Max have AMAZING sound quality, I do prefer the sound quality of the XM5s given that they offer a completely customizable EQ so I can make them sound exactly how I want. Whereas the AirPods Max only have a few preset sound profiles. I loved the spatial audio feature of the AirPods Max and I do wish that Sony’s 360 reality audio was more compatible to more mainstream music apps such as Apple Music, Amazon Music, and Spotify. Because I have never even heard of any of the apps that are in fact compatible with 360 reality sound, and I am far too invested with my Apple Music library to ever consider switching to another music streaming platform. So unless Sony makes it more compatible with other apps, I’ll probably never get to experience 360 reality audio. But that is not a deal breaker for me in the least. Personally I feel like I made the right choice by switching to the Sony WH 1000XM5s and I look forward to enjoying them for a long time.

    • @dutyrover946
      @dutyrover946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Think about it. You take the headphones out of its case and the moment you pet them over your ears it automatically connects to whatever apple device you're currently using without having to do anything. Thats a premium feature id rather have over manually holding down a button and going into bluetooth settings each time to make sure my phone is actually connected to it or any other device. Think about it.

    • @torreyvalyou6039
      @torreyvalyou6039 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dutyrover946 agreed, I had a pair of sony's and having to DL the stupid app, on top of the connection issues was so annoying. the APM rule, I love them.

    • @rafikz77
      @rafikz77 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@dutyrover946 holding down the button isn’t hard and I’ve never had to check if my headphones are connected to my device when I turn them on 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @dutyrover946
      @dutyrover946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rafikz77 so you're ok with mediocre? you're ok with not having features that make things easier? For what? exactly.

    • @rafikz77
      @rafikz77 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@dutyrover946 I don’t think it’s mediocre

  • @DailyInsane
    @DailyInsane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man! Really helpful

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!

  • @jeanbastien9424
    @jeanbastien9424 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Went with the xm5 simply because i can fall asleep in them after a 12 hour night shift and block out day time noise. I use mostly apple devices, but was able to adjust the Sonys to a sound quality I’m happy with.

  • @abiizolao2666
    @abiizolao2666 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this review! Please can you do the kef mu7 headphones?

  • @PerpetualAlfa
    @PerpetualAlfa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marc, where I can get your XM5 EQ settings?

  • @mr.puggin8384
    @mr.puggin8384 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Picked up xm5s because they’re so light tried the maxs at the Apple Store and they felt so heavy also the EQ on the Sonys app is amazing as well as speak to talk and all sorts of settings you can tune the mic is amazing also and saved extra since they’re cheaper than the maxs

  • @JudgeNLN
    @JudgeNLN ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you disable the automatic ANC improvement settings? When it's on there's a noticeable loss in audio quality but turning it off makes them sound quite a bit better than the XM4s, even with a flat EQ.

  • @06bostonguy
    @06bostonguy ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great review ! And thanks for pointing out the sounds quality on the new XM5
    I thought the same thing I was Very disappointed compared to the AirPods Max and the older XM4 both have better sound quality and more volume than the new XM5. I bough these headphones and returned them after 10 days. I also found them more uncomfortable than the AirPods Max . The the noise canceling and transparency mode are top notch and call quality it’s amazing too . Awesome review !

  • @ProdINSNXEGHXST
    @ProdINSNXEGHXST 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m getting the xm4’s for my birthday this year and I can’t wait. I’ve been watching other reviews on these headphones, and you did the best job explaining them including the xm5’s and the AirPods Max. Awesome video

  • @himme9185
    @himme9185 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's actually super weird, of the 2 other reviews they say the sound quality is great.
    Also thank you for being a professional review and trying to be unbiased some headphone review people really bug me when they aren't like you

  • @ChristinaEileen
    @ChristinaEileen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The intro and the thumbnail are PERFECT

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank youuuu 🥺🥺🥺

  • @amanii9533
    @amanii9533 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the notification and rushed over. Dope intro and lovedddd the product shots.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      You da real MVP Amani ❤️ Notification gang

  • @Anonymous-sg4zm
    @Anonymous-sg4zm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for the review! It's very helpful, and most importantly seems honest. Keep up the good work 😍🙏

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are most welcome! I’m so glad you found it helpful!

  • @mohsinnasir7453
    @mohsinnasir7453 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, I currently use the Sony WH-100XM4 and I am thinking of either buying the Sony WH-100XM5 or the AirPod Max. I only use my headphones wired to my PC and never Bluetooth (I have the Samsung Buds 2 Pro for outside use). I like the WH-100XM5 but when I wore the AirPod Max at the Apple store, I loved the weight and design. I have fairly big ears and a massive head lol. The WH-100XM4 are a little tight from the top of my head when fully extended and get very hot (but I love them). What would you recommend that I get? I heard that the sound quality on the Airpod Max is better. Noise Cancelling isn't an issue for me. Just need something that sounds good and will last me a few years. The sleek design of the AirPod Max is great and the ear cups are the perfect size. Do you have any problem when connected to the PC with the AirPod Max? Also, Mic isn't an issue either, I have a gaming mic as my main way to talk and communicate. I have a Windows Pc and Samsung 23 ultra so I'm in the Android eco-system. Any info will be much appreciated.. When I use the Airpod max wired with my Pc, do I need to have them be turned on so I can hear the sound? If i plug the airpod max into my gaming pc, can i use them without turning on the headphones? I'll use the lightning cable to 3.5 mm jack and connect to my pc. Do the headphones need to be turned on for listening, or can it be turned off? My sony headphone connect to my pc via a 3.5mm jack, and it doesn't matter if they are off or on, it's works both ways.

  • @edwinjin7205
    @edwinjin7205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I heard some real different feedback from people who used xm4 complaining about how muffled the bass is and the lack of detail in mids, compared to XM5.

  • @richardmaxwell7441
    @richardmaxwell7441 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I got the AirPod max when it first launched and the fact that it is still the gold standard almost 2 years later tells me the price tag was worth it. I honestly don’t see myself needing new headphones for at least another 5 years.

    • @frankeebensteadd
      @frankeebensteadd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hey, how do they sound with the song by Selena Gomez - lose you to love me. Do they have good bass? thank you!!

    • @DaedalusMinion
      @DaedalusMinion ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frankeebensteadd They sound great, really smooth bass.

    • @frankeebensteadd
      @frankeebensteadd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DaedalusMinion Wooo thanks!!!! im getting mine on thursday in sky blue! what ones do you have :D

    • @Meechell
      @Meechell ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frankeebensteadd rich moment

    • @xsychology2480
      @xsychology2480 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Meechell Having a job moment

  • @imchrissheldon
    @imchrissheldon ปีที่แล้ว +38

    when i was first using my airpods max, wasn’t a fan of the flat sounding profile, did some digging and i changed the EQ to Hip Hop and the bass has a lot more punch without sounding muddy, absolutely sound amazing!

    • @youngjacuzzi3676
      @youngjacuzzi3676 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      where did u find that setting?

    • @aditya_gupta
      @aditya_gupta ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@youngjacuzzi3676 settings>music>eq

    • @Corwinwill
      @Corwinwill ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I work at apple. Crazy how many people don’t know about the EQ. Make sure you go to
      Settings>Accessibility>Audio/Visual>Mono Audio off

  • @LawofAxis
    @LawofAxis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe the reason that the 5 won't sound as good on iphones is that iphones don't have LDAC. After some tweaking, I got them to open up and sound really really good. However, I don't have either of the other products to test them against. Not the clearest I've heard but it's a LOT better than stock once you get that EQ going. It's a shame they didn't have sound quality in mind right out of the box.

  • @matk5728
    @matk5728 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I remember when I tried for the first time the Bose qc 35 I was blown by the sound quality. Years later I decided to purchase a noise cancelling headphones and when I tried all the Sony, Bose and Jbl I wasn’t thrilled as much as I was back then. But when I tried the AirPods Max I instantly had the same feeling as the Bose. The sound shooked me and the confort as well. So I went with the air pods max

    • @velarmnt
      @velarmnt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      probably because bose has about the same sound signature as apple

    • @fhowland
      @fhowland ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@velarmnt lol not at all

    • @velarmnt
      @velarmnt ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fhowland i own the bose 700 and have tried airpods max, they go for a more natural tone leaning more on the warmer side

    • @sathira_anuk5179
      @sathira_anuk5179 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@fhowland yes ,Sounds better than Apple

  • @cassiecat7038
    @cassiecat7038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agree with your assessment; you’re the first reviewer to be critical of the 5’s I’ve heard. I have them and the maxes AND the mx4’s; (I’ve got a noise situation so really needing noise reduction)
    the xm5s are great for noise reduction but fit terribly as you described, too large and floppy, but still sit over the ear. Sound quality is atrocious on iphone without ldac. Airpods max are one of the best purchases i ever made having bought them when they first came out.

  • @cadenmedcalf1069
    @cadenmedcalf1069 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Marc I just bought the xm4s but I am not loving the fit. I have wear a size medium hat but for me the xm4s don’t feel secure enough on my head. A quick head turn makes the headphones slide around. I think they sound good and I do prefer more bass when listening to music. I have also not loved the connectivity. Being used to air pods pro I now can’t automatically switch between devices. Do you think the air pods max will fix these issues or would they still not be worth the extra money? Thanks a lot for the great video!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I personally find the xm4's to fit my head quite well, even when wearing a hat. The airpods max migjt fit a little tighter with the clamping force, but I don't know if they'd solve your issue. Id try them on in store and see

  • @georgechen1124
    @georgechen1124 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sound quality on newer Android device supporting A2DP is on par with Max. Much lighter and feels more comfortable than Max.

  • @kaikaisen2155
    @kaikaisen2155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I expected complete silence with the ANC but it only silences a tiny bit. I can still hear people around me almost as if I didn´t have the NC on. in my work environment I need complete silence sometimes, any suggestions? Earplugs are inconvenient because sometimes people call me and then I need some time to take them off again also i sleep with them and I don´t think it is healthy for my ear canals to have them on in the night and most of the day as well

  • @user-vm1yy8ji1t
    @user-vm1yy8ji1t 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you say that, apart from what refers to listening to music itself, they have good performance in teleworking? Among many of the features you mention, I have read that it has problems connecting to some versions of Windows, as well as certain problems such as Microsoft Teams. My question goes more specifically to the evaluation of your microphone for those types of contexts. Thank you!

  • @pradeepnim3689
    @pradeepnim3689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks mate !! great review

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are most welcome! Thank you for watching!

  • @renz2k
    @renz2k ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10:16 I think this is because of the differing codecs of Android and Apple devices. Apple devices can only support up to AAC, meanwhile Sony's headphones use LDAC, which Android can support up to.

    • @GTAracingUK
      @GTAracingUK ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesnt matter because android only has shitty services like Spotify and Deezer which run on compressed Mp3 audio while Apple has Apple Music which uses AAC

  • @shonen84
    @shonen84 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have the MDR 1000x, XM2 and XM4. I tried the XM5 in the store - and quickly agreed with you. The XM5 is a step back!

  • @mtadc1545
    @mtadc1545 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only you could try the Yamaha L700As. They’re bar far the best sounding bluetooth headphones I’ve ever tried. They come super close to the DT770 pro 250ohms which are wired and definitely on the higher end.

  • @theonlyredspecial
    @theonlyredspecial ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and honest ! Bravo. But I have to say that background music as you talked was really irritating and distracting as I was trying to focus on you.

  • @acedrakon8711
    @acedrakon8711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love my xm4s so much, i’ll just wait for the next one tbh

  • @vincecool72
    @vincecool72 ปีที่แล้ว

    just got these sony headphones and the sound is not that good. Am i doing something wrong because and the bass is not good enough. I tested both macbook and phone and still getting the same results cant get the volume high enough and the bass is not working good either when the volume is at the max high. i tested the app for the phone also not helping anything

  • @ryanson9555
    @ryanson9555 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Amazing B-roll! I think the Sony's sound better on the android devices because of Sony's proprietary LDAC Bluetooth codec, where Apple is just using AAC which may cause a dip in audio quality for the Sony's.

    • @reymervergara2308
      @reymervergara2308 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly, since LDAC cannot be used on Iphones

    • @mz-power9587
      @mz-power9587 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      not to mention its probably intentional to monopolize headphones for iphone

    • @findingjapanartist9836
      @findingjapanartist9836 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      this is why most of the audiophile hate iphone cuz the sound quality from it is urhhhh.......
      edit: for those who didnt know about codec, all of them mainly focus onto lossless files that bring a huge difference in terms of sound for music
      LDAC is developed by sony ofc they will pair up xm5 with their own codec
      not to mentioned LDAC and AAC have different sound quality because of the codec itself, LDAC is better than AAC in terms of clarity, crispyness, base and soundstage
      if ure using xm5 and pair up with android/pc and iphone, you know what im talking about
      correct me if im wrong since im still new for this hobby
      still rocking with my b2dusk tho

    • @Motymott99
      @Motymott99 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      codecs are barely distiguishable . this is bullshit . bose and airpods max sound way better with just aac .
      why ? because they are tuned better! tuning is the most important aspect in sound quality . the sony headphones have only base , you cannot hear the music .

    • @SD-oe6vv
      @SD-oe6vv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Motymott99 true, I have been saying it for ages, Sony has NO expertise in audio although they are keep making audio products from many decades but still they are NOT good at it. Bose is way ahead of Sony.

  • @rafikz77
    @rafikz77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had to disable the multi device support on my XM4’s, and unpaired from one of my two devices, because I would get random connection drops, as if it was trying to automatically connect to the other device even though said device wasn’t in use.

  • @perryjohnson8161
    @perryjohnson8161 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Although I agree with you, just not completely. I own both the xm5 and the max. After several firmware updates the AirPods max’s ANC suffered, I noticed a major downgrade in noise cancellation strength can’t really compare the XM4 but the sound quality seems fine, and I’m sure that the sound quality is even better with an android device because of the Hi-res codec support. imo I’m enjoying the Sony Xm5 better Anyway thanks for your feedback I did hit the subscribe button.

  • @vikjay1
    @vikjay1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I completely agree in comparing the XM5s with XM4s. I think the XM4s are incredible and I noticed the sound quality difference immediately when I put on the XM5s.

  • @hamblinta
    @hamblinta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have Bowers Wilkins px7 and AirPod max and Bose 700 & quiet comfort 35ii…the airpod max wins for noise cancelling by far and sounds just as good as any of the others if not better, imo.

  • @dani51401
    @dani51401 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had both headphones and I found the xm5 to sound better but only after changing the eq. I used android phone on xm5 and Apple on pro max. Pro max sound Great as well but I give a slight edge to xm5 but slight both great headphones

  • @RafLurv
    @RafLurv 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    where do u find this discount version for airpods max?

  • @ChristinaEileen
    @ChristinaEileen ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The XM4’s are definitely more for me because of fit, buttt I do love the sound quality of the AirPods max.

  • @youssefsabeh1980
    @youssefsabeh1980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello everyone,is there multiple versions of the Sony WH 1000xm5? For example the one on the amazon is B,is there an A version or they are all the same premium headphones?

  • @Laura-tb7nm
    @Laura-tb7nm ปีที่แล้ว

    Though none of them have the mute/unmute button. People need cool good quality headphones to work as well. And is the purpose of bluetooth headphones if you can't walk around and mute/unmute when needed?

  • @emogus4590
    @emogus4590 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am so confused on how it is a step down in audio quality what kinds ears do you have

  • @29thedream
    @29thedream ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have tried out the XM4s and while they are great headsets they felt heavy and their multi device switching is terrible. Switching from a laptop to a phone took at least 10 seconds to switch. I have tried out the bose qc45 and they have seamless switching between devices.

  • @SakuraSakura8596
    @SakuraSakura8596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ll choose B&W PX7 or PX7 S2, which is in the same price range as XM5 and have way better sounds quality compared to AirPod Max

  • @EquipedBlade
    @EquipedBlade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What bluetooth codec does the XM5 use when connected to your iphone vs android?

    • @sandro8899
      @sandro8899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AAC on iPhone and you can choose between AAC and LDAC on Android

  • @dingus4260
    @dingus4260 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing review and pretty much what I was thinking in terms of Apple vs Sony. I’m thinking about getting the XM5’s because I have the XM4’s but idk. Glad to know even if I got them they’re well worth it.
    All that aside, 2:41 is an AMAZING shot. I think I watched it about 7 times before I had to say something lol

  • @nunopenaspt
    @nunopenaspt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for your review, sorry to say but the XM5 sound a more open than the Xm4 and even the Apple ones. Check the reviews that use very expensive monaural testing devices, the XM5 sound better even without the equalization.

  • @ados2241
    @ados2241 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is the sound quality better on xm4s than on apple's ?

  • @shootthe_jay
    @shootthe_jay 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow - fantastic review! i had the xm-4s for about a year and left them on a plane 😩 so i decided to get the 5s about a month ago and don’t love the fit. couldn’t really compare sound quality of course and have also considered the airpods max but you have convinced me to return the 5s and get another pair of 4s. thank you!

  • @normanng3863
    @normanng3863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that Hong Kong MTR shot caught me off guard. Well done review

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed!

  • @keith12311
    @keith12311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had the xm5 for two weeks to go with my note 20 ultra,, love is in the air… two days ago I caught a deal 370 for the AirPod max,, I paired it up to old ax max and damn damn damn, very impressive headphones,, to keep it short apple and Apple together,,, Sony and Samsung together. Period

  • @MobiusPhoenix
    @MobiusPhoenix 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is where we see the preference being subjective coming in hard. I did extensive research and testing when buying a new pair of headphones. In the end, it all came down between Sony XM5/XM4, Apple Airpods Max and the Bose NC 700. I also have an extensive apple ecosystem so, that was already a headstart for the Airpods Max but, even though I could shell out some more $ for the airpods Max, I wanted the best ones for listening to music even if they cost some more. However, I was always blown away by the sound quality of the XM5s whenever I heard them and the Airpods Max , while good, were not better than XM5s IMO. This didn't justify going the Airpods Max route even if I did lose out on the convenience of the apple ecosystem or the better transparency mode. I could do without these features and it's not like XM5s are bad at them, they are just not as good as the Airpods Max in those 2 areas. In all other departments, the XM5s wins hands down for me.

  • @HaloGoku
    @HaloGoku ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you include what eq you use for your headphones? I have the 4s bu5 I’m not good with that stuff

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its all personal preference, but I think you can find the eq I've done to my xm4's in my xm4 vs airpods max video

  • @theaj1nkya
    @theaj1nkya ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Waited for a couple months for this review. I had a similar experience with XM5’s audio quality but didn’t tinker with the EQ so I thought my perception was wrong. Thanks for confirming that you experienced the same. Going with the Airpods Max. Excellent video 🫡.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching!

  • @e7234
    @e7234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2023 should I got for the APM or Bose 700 / Sony XM5. I'm not sure where to spend my money for tidal music listening through both bluetooth and cable.

  • @mohsinnasir7453
    @mohsinnasir7453 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If i plug the airpod max into my gaming pc, can i use them without turning on the headphones? I'll use the lightning cable to 3.5 mm jack and connect to my pc. Do the headphones need to be turned on for listening, or can it be turned off? My sony headphone connect to my pc via a 3.5mm jack, and it doesn't matter if they are off or on, it's works both ways.

  • @Mondaze
    @Mondaze ปีที่แล้ว

    I am an Apple user and I have the Airpod max's and XM4's but for gym headphones, the XM4's are so much better, I find that the max's slip on your head too much, when laying down or making quick body movements. Haven't tried the XM5's though so they may have better grip. (also prefer the XM4's for gaming, the airpod max's sound like they have too much treble and not enough bass.)

  • @dhirajshetty483
    @dhirajshetty483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review, thank you

  • @whyme3772
    @whyme3772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Since I'm already in the Apple ecosystem (with the exception of having a MacBook. I have a HP Windows 11 laptop), and I have the money, I got the Space Gray AirPods Max. I do love the sound and premium build quality. I would say that since most people don't have at least $400 to be dropping on headphones, the XM4's are pretty good value. My dad has a blue pair and they sound great.

  • @erikig
    @erikig ปีที่แล้ว

    I recommend doing a noisy environment microphone/call test (e.g Starbucks, Noisy Office or Public Transport)

  • @aleksanderdomanski222
    @aleksanderdomanski222 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As I understand Sony's WH-1000 XM5 uses LDAC high bitrate codec. Modern androids have it built in. Apple products use standard "free" codecs. Guess XM5 are tailored for LDAC when Airpods are finetuned for Apple products. That might do the diffrence.

    • @amrbasri68
      @amrbasri68 ปีที่แล้ว

      id like more people to consider your comment when making comparisons. could be the reason behind the negative reviews over sound quality.

    • @Erg893
      @Erg893 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amrbasri68 no. That is not the reason. Stop playing audiophiles as you would not hear a difference b/w those codecs as casual listeners in the first place. XM5 sounds bad, you’re welcome

  • @TheJonathansk
    @TheJonathansk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    XM 3 and XM4 sound similar, I like their EQ. You are completely right, XM5 does not sound the same even with the same EQ.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think there’s ever been such a drastic change in sound profile as there was between the xm4 and xm5

  • @ferocyter
    @ferocyter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great channel bro!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much!

  • @GabeKanae
    @GabeKanae ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The shot at 2:45 … I cried.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully tears of joy! I think it’s a cool shot

  • @johnleftwich650
    @johnleftwich650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Marc - I have never owned or tried the XM4s or the AirPods Max. I am an Apple user however when I decided to get a current state of the art set of headphones the reviews were overwhelmingly giving the nod to the XM5s over the AirPods Max so I got them. I've had them for 4 days and have logged several hours on them and have been very satisfied with sound quality. I have also watched a lot of TH-cam reviews comparing them to the XM4s and the AirPods Max. I was surprised that out of the more than 10 reviews I've watched, yours was the first to say the sound quality was bad.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s not necessarily “bad” but after the price increase from the incredible xm4’s, as well as the smaller drivers, different fit, and different sound profile, to me personally, it seemed like a downgrade in many ways. So for me personally, for it to be a downgrade in a couple categories while simultaneously increasing the price, I was disappointed. I have heard on android the sound quality is better, but for my use, I tend to pick my xm4’s and AirPod max over these for pure listening purposes.

  • @lbryan5041
    @lbryan5041 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I've done sound mixing and equalizing for years. I have both XM4s and Max's but I wanted to try the XM5s to compare sound quality (Max's being gold standard after some changes in EQ) so I went to Best Buy and compared the XM4's to XM5's and could instantly tell the XM4's sounded better, too!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We love to see it 🔥

    • @Motymott99
      @Motymott99 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      i found it hard to believe you are mixing and equalizing for years if you think the xm4 sound good , they acousticly not even close to flat response . and that has been proven by all industry grade measurements on the market.
      but yes , also the xm5 ar trash . the airpods max is way better but still not acousticly accurate. more smooth listening

    • @joeface03
      @joeface03 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      "Max's being standard"
      Credibility in toilet

    • @joeface03
      @joeface03 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Motymott99 umm no 🤡

    • @Medz1100
      @Medz1100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you tell us what EQ settings you changed for the Max’s please?

  • @rvyne24
    @rvyne24 ปีที่แล้ว

    will i was first convince with xm5 but totally bit off when ive done some research both bose and sony doesnt offer out-of-warranty service. i wanted to check if they replace battery and how much.. totally disappoint to know they dont offer this services in my area not sure in US.. i know apple no issue with still servicing out of warranty devices which both sony and bose dont.. haiz..

  • @danielbarbieru9715
    @danielbarbieru9715 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    (Sorry for my bad english)
    I tried my XM5 both on Android and iOS, the differences are big.
    On android i use as configuration "Enthusiast mode" , Dolby athmos mode, and LDAC active and the sound quality is genius, i 100% reccomend trying it.
    I think XM5 sounding bad on iOS is more "Apple fault" because Sony XM5 is a very big competitor for Airpods Max and also cost less (I don't think Sony Engineers forgot how to adapt their headphones on iOS after making Sony XM4 lol)

    • @kerrydaniels8460
      @kerrydaniels8460 ปีที่แล้ว

      People often blame others when it comes to apple they only have to make their stuff sound good on apple for people to like them. Everyone else has to make their stuff sound good on everything. If appple sucks on another device then folks blame the other device rather than apple. The other way around and manufacturers have to take blame for their own product.
      Not everyone that gets an apple product has to get all the others myself included so I think it's bullmesh when folks just try to tell you about Apple to apple, but ignore apple to everything else like literally every other company has to play on that playing field.
      Apple is getting specialized treatment. Put it on a level playing field and you get mixed results. Likely won't be seamless connection etc so take what reviewers say with a grain of salt that don't test appple outside of a super small biased ecosystem.

    • @kerrydaniels8460
      @kerrydaniels8460 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itsacookie1 That makes literally no sense. Just a fanboy comment. Stop worshipping Steve Jobs and get a life dude.. It's tech not a religion. Only weirdos start talking like you just did as if you worship apple. Go touch some grass dude...

  • @Figgboii
    @Figgboii ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😍😍🔥 Best intro tech music i have ever heard before 👏👏

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you like the intro!

  • @reymervergara2308
    @reymervergara2308 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Well to add details on why it had a bad quality of sound. It's because you used an Iphone to pair it to the XM5's, and on IPhone's the only Codec you can access is the AAC instead of Sony's proprietary codec for high quality music which is LDAC.

    • @simply6162
      @simply6162 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep the stupid excuses coming even tho you don’t know shiet how they works

    • @edwinjin7205
      @edwinjin7205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah no wonder

    • @jheads5371
      @jheads5371 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coming from someone who currently has airpods max and the sony wh-100xm 4s(i got to try the xm5s at a best buy) i find that Audio condex really only does so much for a headphone. If it's EQ-ed badly, doesn't have great soundstaging,etc,etc, higher bit-rate audio isn't going to fix that. That said I find both the Max's and sonys very similar in a lot of ways. But I'd give it to the sony only because they have a proper eq, which to mean matters more then propeitaty codec, or adaptive eq.

    • @RossMKF1
      @RossMKF1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ldac uses more energy and has a short range as well as uses lots of data for the transmission and is only marginally better

    • @SeanGonzalezMDHEXT
      @SeanGonzalezMDHEXT ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I find it interesting he found the XM5s muddy. that means his ears were adapted to the air pods Max's sound. he didn't even try to make his ear more neutral to the sound by desensitizing his ears. the air Pods max sound very heavy on high-end because my ears are used to the XM5's bass response. to review headphones, you have to re-adapt your ears.

  • @samikokkonen7218
    @samikokkonen7218 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just compare to Philips Fidelio L3 headphones… those are really good. When I listen even old songs with these I can hear new sounds every time...

  • @souravsingha1363
    @souravsingha1363 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does AirPod max last at least 8 hours continuous listening ?
    I heard it has very low battery backup. Is it true?

  • @sujannanda7003
    @sujannanda7003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello you are doing really great.
    Just had one question-
    Is sony wh1000-xm5 comfortable with spectacles/eye-glasses??
    Does it hurt our ears ??
    Thank you

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've had no issues when I wear sunglasses, but everyones head is different

    • @sujannanda7003
      @sujannanda7003 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarcTaraz thank you 😊

  • @Gingerlion777
    @Gingerlion777 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the AirPods Max, only thing is that they are to heavy.. which is perfectly fine for a premium headset at that price point! But I personally only use them in the house.. the Sonys on the other hand are good for on the road. A lot of people say the air pods max need to be lighter but I disagree with that.. because of the weight and materials used they have a much more premium feel! Just not for on the go.. its a really nice headset for watching movies or Apple Music. Are they way overpriced? Yes.. is the sound worth 200 more? No..

    • @SonnyWest87
      @SonnyWest87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But weight doesn’t equal premium in headphones. I say this because if we look at all headphones from low to high, one standard feature of headphones is the ability to be portable and have for travel. If something is too heavy it is not useable. The same can be said for suitcases. If a suitcase is heavy can you use it? We can say it’s HIGH QUALITY but at the end of the day it makes your life harder not easier, and a key feature of premium high quality products is they make your life easier not harder. They need to reduce the weight and make it more waterproof for the gym.

    • @Gingerlion777
      @Gingerlion777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SonnyWest87 in some cases I agree with you. But not everything premium is made to make life easier. Also.. why would I want to wear 500 bucks headphones to the gym?? At that point you are just looking for attention and to show of wealth.

  • @Trebuh_18
    @Trebuh_18 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in controls for xm5 u forgot about that if u hold 2 fingers on that touch sensor u turn on/off speak to chat and if u hold it with ur whole hand it lowers music and turns on ambient mode (u can use it when someone is talking to u and u want to hear them)

  • @Little1-1
    @Little1-1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    got xm5 today, they lack the high end on default EQ but as you said is workable and dependent on personal preferences. A very honest review!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the review!

  • @Mc-os1yc
    @Mc-os1yc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Make sure you factory reset you XM5 before you use it. Right out of the box, it produces strange echo. Basically, you could hear you own voice. And microphone volume is way too low even when you set the mic volume to the highest on PC/Phone.

  • @merwitch
    @merwitch ปีที่แล้ว

    Which ones are good to work out in?? Please advise

    • @agamemnon60
      @agamemnon60 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Powerbeats Pro

  • @joaolucamendes5503
    @joaolucamendes5503 ปีที่แล้ว

    XM5 mic sounds better in an outside ambient compared to the quiet indoors ambient, interesting

  • @Hal-kj2mc
    @Hal-kj2mc ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds like the sound quality of the Sony's has taken a hit for better anc etc. For me sound quality is top so it's the 4s for me. Haven't heard the Max's but in fairness Apple does a good job

  • @michaelcaling
    @michaelcaling ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know if you're going to read this but trying the same EQ settings of your XM4 with XM5 won't really work. I did the same with my XM3. At first, I thought XM3 sounded better but after few tries, XM5 sounded better AND I had to find the perfect way to fit it as it has bigger cups now, but after figuring all that, it was miles apart way better. You just have to think that THIS IS NOT AN XM4, it is different so treat it differently.

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did indeed. My eq on my xm5’s is COMPLETELY different than that of my xm4’s.

    • @DennisSchmitz
      @DennisSchmitz ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MarcTaraz What is your EQ?
      Mine on the XM5 is:
      400: -6
      1K: +1
      2.5K: +2
      6.3K: +1
      16K: +5
      Clear Bass: -2
      Only real issue I have is that I can't control upper boomy bass without affecting sub bass.

  • @lingfeizhang9411
    @lingfeizhang9411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video!

    • @MarcTaraz
      @MarcTaraz  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much!

  • @LIVEFRMNYC
    @LIVEFRMNYC ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another reason to keep my XM4.

  • @NamuSenpai
    @NamuSenpai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can get you a pair of AirPods Max on eBay anywhere from 280-400$. I scooped a pair of basically new for 300$