This Is A Young Man's Airplane - Diamond DA50. Oshkosh 2021
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Checking out the Diamond DA50 at Oshkosh. This is the newest line of single engine aircraft offered by Diamond aircraft to the US market. Many of you already familiar with Diamond's most popular model, the DA40. A very nice 4 seater airplane also known for its great safety record. I happen to have trained in a Diamond DA40 so I'm all too familiar with the aircraft.
Now here we have the DA50, no more prototypes of teasing videos, just the finished speed machine. The Diamond DA50 will seat up to 5 people and cruise at 200 knots burning only 10 gallons of Jet fuel per hour. Unlike its predecessor, the DA50 is equipped with a 300 HP continental CD 300 engine that burns Jet A. If you're thinking why is this important? well, Jet A is less expensive than 100 LL.
Watch the video for full review.
Here are some more specs on the DA50
- Continental CD 300 (300 hp engine). With FADEC
- Range: up to 862 miles
- Speed: 200 mph
- Fuel: 10 gph
- Dual Garmin G1000 NXi
- Price starts at $1.1 million to $1.4 million
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Well at least it's a rich young man's airplane. Cool aircraft, cool video.
Mike, I must with enjoying admirable respect, the admiration that you have for aviation of any kind.🤗...man, you're the best when it comes to reviews of all aircraft that I've had the opportunity to watch & actually listen too, taking it to heart. Really appreciate what you're doing! Take care of fam., & continue to do what you love! As always, happy & safe flying to you!
Thank you. Thant means a lot and I appreciate you watching.
Dude... well done, I liked your presentation and format !
I love that plane, thanks for showing us!
Nice one Mo😊
I’m about to start flight school and this is the plane I aspire to have in 2 years.
Are you hiring? I need to get me some of that 1.4mil.
Why? With a best conditions range of 750 nm are you planning on flying next door?
@@adamuyfjhk7676 they have more than two airports.
Beautiful elegant aircraft. Looks very sporty too.
Nice aircraft. Thanks, Mike.
Thats sick. Nice quick overview. Sub'd
Such a cool looking aircraft!!
My favorite aircraft is a G550. Thx for sharing as always brotha Mike. #Salute✊🏾
I have a discovery flight scheduled for this weekend in a Diamond DA40. Thanks for the inspiration Mike!
Good luk sir. Im currently going to retake my FAA private pilot exam
Please leave a follow up comment on your impressions.
DA 40 is fun to fly
Enjoy it
Man, it wasn't good. I got all excited about flying this aircraft and it turns out that I'm too big to fly it. My head was hitting the canopy and my knees were pressed against the avionics panel. I had to reschedule in an aircraft that has more room for me, so I'll be flying the Piper Archer next week instead.
The DA50RG might be better suited.
It's built with about the same cabin size as the DA62
Excellent video 👍🏻
Wonderful plane. Many thanks
Mike, the information at 11:33 is inaccurate. It doesn’t fly at 200 knots burning 10gph. The spec sheet says that its max speed is 181 KTAS. And the brochure they handed out at Oshkosh says “172 KTAS @ 75% Power/ 15.9 gph at 10,000ft ISA”. 200 knots exaggerates its top speed, and it only achieves 10.3gph at economy cruise (60%), at which it will only get 149 KTAS at 12,000 ft.
That's even worse. That's only a 400-450 nm range depending on what your minimums are.
This plane is great for quick flights in Europe, or in the Northeast USA... But that's about it.
Oh plesae.
Mike's channel is for wanna be fliers. Its about concept not detail!
200 mpg is about right
I love this "FOUR DOOR"
Seen your sling at OSH. It’s awesome!
Nice plane. Thank you for sharing this! 👍
At 4:30 these are Micro Vortex Generators.
Yep, they keep air glued to the wing at near stall speeds (and all speeds) for better control.
that is a gorgeous plane!
Love your videos mike … Than you !
Thank you for watching
If I'm not mistaken, it's a 1200 hour TBO on the JET-A/diesel engine and those engines are pricey. Makes sense in Europe where AvGas is $10+/gal and availability is an issue. Disappointing range, disappointing price compared to a DA62, and overall not something worthy of hype in North America. If I was a rich businessman in Europe I'd shell out the extra cash for a second engine.
Nice video
Gorgeous airplane
Gorgeous Airplane!! Thank you for sharing your views of planes. Keep up the Great work. Always informative.
Beautiful airplane
Awesome aircraft!
love it!
Interesting wing; check out the outboard double-slotted flap/inboard split flap combination. Rich man's game...
at 4:40 what you are seeing are vortex generators. They make sense on the outer tip of the wing. It might be diamond's way of eliminating the need for stall strips, which make the wing root stall before the wing tip and reduce the chance of a wing drop in a cross controlled stall. The way they are positioned achieves the same effect, since VG's increase the angle of attack at which that outer portion of the wing can be flown.
It looks very rigid. Although its prestrations are not like i expected. Seems a good plane for operating also from gravel grass strips.
I’m in love....can’t wait to see it in person.
I think you misspoke about the parachute, when I talked to the representative at Oshkosh, Diamond has no plans to add or even pursue parachute technology in their equipment. Great video though!
Diamonds are usually so good natured that you really, really have to work to get into a flat spin, or any other difficult to recover situation for that matter. Source: Me, I trained on a DA20 and a DA40. That, combined with the high glide ratio of all Diamond aircrafts (IIRC the DA40 has a lower descend rate when gliding than it would have with a parachute) makes the chute kinda redundand and only adds unnecessary weight.
Everything I like on the DA50 ..........except, and this goes for every aircraft, for the the 'T' tail. I did my training on a Piper Tomahawk and never again!!!!! 😬👍🇦🇺
Nice video, Mike! The DA50 certainly is a nice plane and all, but you've got to not take those salesmen so seriously. They lie. Even Diamond admits that it's doesn't have a "200 kt cruise." More like 180 kts. Salesmen like to mix up their metrics: One of them probably said that it's a "200mph cruise," (and he probably said "miles per hour" in a very low voice). And it may be. But as others have pointed out, it's not 200 kts @ 10gph. Heck, it's not even 200 mph @ 10gph.
Oh, I had a Porsche 911 once that had "four seats." However the rear seats were only good for children and were there for insurance reasons only. I assume that the DA50 is similar in that Diamond never anticipated that people would try to cram five full-size adults in it.
At 9:14 you said, "This is not a piston engine." It most certainly is! It's neat that it is a diesel that runs on jet fuel and has a FADEC, but it's still a piston engine.
BTW, according to their website, Diamond says the wingspan is 44 feet! Wow! A Bonanza's is only 33 feet.
I think he made a mistake, because he corrected himself when he said "it's not an ordinary piston engine" so he's still saying it's a piston engine even though he previously said it wasn't one.
Yeah he was a bit confusing there, but it seems that he was emphasizing that it's a FADEC
@@mikhailhunter5277 - I think it's more noteworthy, and Mike *should* have been emphasizing that it's a turbocharged *diesel* V-6! (V-6, whaaaat?) The Continental CD300 is an amazing engine - we'll have to see how it does as it gets more exposure and more time in service.
Nice!
What a beautiful plane. She reminds me a speedy motorcycle
Very informative video!! Thanks Mike!!
Very Nice.
Great review Mike...ty!
Your a trend setter!
You seem to be flying an IFR flight plan in mostly VFR, isn't "actual" IFR in IMC? I'm glad you got some actual IMC, I appreciate that you are enjoying an actual IFR flight plan. Mega cool. Almost easier, get separation, traffic advisories, like Center holding your hand. I never understood why so many private pilots try to stay out of Bravo, they babysit ya! Great video, totally sub'd.
As much as I love the innovation that's in this airplane... I just can't help but think that Diamond missed the mark. It's slower, has less range, and is more expensive than a Cirrus SR22T. It also doesn't fit in a standard 40' hangar. My only hope that with the same wing as the DA-62 which will allow for the additional 36 gallon auxiliary tank that aircraft has as well - which would significantly boost the range. It definitely is not marketed for the North American market.
Agree! I love it, and think it is the coolest airplane today. But for the price tag, I would expect to have Mooney like performance! (cruise speed 230 - 240 kts) Is there any modern piston single or twin that can match the speeds of the Mooney or the Aerostar?
Nothing I have ever seen has the crash resistance & safety of a diamond! I have seen them take insane punishment, once I saw one hit the approach lights on final, the student thought it was something with his gear & he overshot, when he came back he had a full light embedded in the wing! Another guy porpoised off the runway into the ditch at 70kts..he stopped in 4 inches, the tail scorpioned, the floor cracked & the students head hit the attitude indicator, he survived! If it was any other plane the cockpit would have been completely crushed! Diamonds are tough. I've seen more but those are the big 2.
They have increased the price on it from $725k to $1.15m over the last 8 months. I’m not surprised it’s blown out of the segment.
One thing it has on the cirrus is the insurability is higher with lower premiums but not enough to offset that huge price tag.
@@class2instructor32 Then you have not seen much. Carbon fiber and fiberglass crack, shatter and are tougher to repair than metal planes. Worse? Carbon fiber will HIDE the cracks...they can be micro cracks under the paint and not up until a later random flight.
@@speedomars um.......I'm talking about crash resistance as in the cockpit tub area NOT being intruded by the engine or just completely flattened,one of these planes was completely totalled, like I said the impact was so great that the tail snapped off and scorpioned in front of the aircraft, crash investigators said he went from 70kts to 0kts in 4 inches. Show me a metal GA plane where you survive that, it's not possible, I remember a crash that happened somewhere else where a diamond hit a Cherokee either on landing or take off and it split it like a coke can. Also show me a metal GA aircraft that does not either lose a wing or explode on hitting a raised approach light tower, the diamond literally took the light off the little tower and took it with it on circuit. As for inspections and repairs the wings on a da20 are held on with one giant bolt each. They are super, ultra tough, But I think the tomahawk was one of the best and most roomy trainers ever & I loved the manual flaps on it.
Beauty
That price point makes no sense as the DA62 is $1.4 million with seating for 7 people, better range, and similar fuel burn on TWIN engines.
The only thing the DA50 will beat the Malibu in is the annual cost and the fuel burn.
Great airplane, it looks amazing. Going to the price, isn’t this very similar to the DA62? Fuel saving aside, I think I would still prefer the twin DA62 if price is similar. It has a bit more space than the DA50 and weight capacity is algo more so I could take more people. Thanks for the video!
I've been keeping my eye on this plane for years it on the market finally I see looks like it would be a great plane to have
1. where did you get a 1000 mile range from? I read and heard it was 750NM(862 mile) range
2. is that range number with 4-5 people ?
750m is the range.
I got my PPL on 902MR! (The da40 in your vid)
Hope you'll do another video when you get to ride in one.
Couple of corrections. That’s not a rear door on the right side. The plane has three doors total. Also, no parachute is available (which is a pity). Also, since it burns Jet-A, the fuel weight is around 400 pounds for 51 gallons (not 300). To everybody complaining that it can’t seat five - well, picture a family with three kids. That’d work fine. It’s a cool plane, but it’s hard for me to justify that price tag. It may make sense in Europe where avgas is crazy expensive and difficult to obtain. The kicker is that the DA-62 twin is $50-70k more money. I think if I were looking to spend that kind of money, I’d seriously consider the 62.
The stall characteristics seem pretty good, from watching a vid on it.
I'm inclined to disagree and think the stall characteristics are pretty bad.
Excellent video.
Beautiful color indeed.
How does it stack up against TBM 940 and DA62 (yes that is twin engine but still)? Can we have video comparison on that and your opinions?
The TBM is $5 million. There's no comparison at all. It's faster, has a higher ceiling, much longer range, has G3000 avionics. They're just not in the same league.
We’re you able to jump inside the DA-62? Didn’t realize ballistic parachutes were options on Diamond planes. Is it just the DA-50 or do other models now have that as an option?
They need to make it a turboprop that has a ceiling of FL310 and a normal cruise of 320 KTAS.
That would be a TBM940 for about $4.6 million. ;)
Mike, between a Sling High Wing and a Pipistrel Virus SW which would you prefer?
I know you fly the Sling, but objectively what do you think?
I may have missed mojo did you look at the new TBM
The clip you have of walking up to a DA40 is at El Monte airport? Socal aero club right?
Those were vortex generators on the wing designed to add high energy airflow over the ailerons to increase responsiveness.
glad someone knows
@@PhineasMaxemus Mike should know. He is a pilot, is he not?
@@flexairz yeah about that.....
@@flexairz Didn't know being a pilot required qualifications in aerodynamics too. Which flight school are you in. And he did say he wasn't sure.
@@LanaaAmor of course he's not KaranSign certified but he is a pilot and we've seen him fly. So yes he's a qualified pilot. Is he a very experienced pilot, may be not.
I love it, and think it is the coolest airplane today. But for the price tag, I would expect to have Mooney like performance! (cruise speed 230 - 240 kts) Will there ever be any modern piston single or twin that can match the speeds of the Mooney or the Aerostar?
The Mooney is an old boat and they don't cruise near as well with the payload of a cirrus. They may sip gas sometimes but their usable load is trash. DA 50 would be far superior. Cirrus next and a lancair even better if your skilled and don't care about space
i love this channel...!!!
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costs 1.4 mil... :(
anyone with 1.4mil cash lying around had parents with a significant amount of cash to start with lol
OMG!!!! I just had a organism.
I’m a simple man, I see Mojo, ik click like.
Believe me I love themTBM 85 to the 94 them I saw then I saw the DA62 went nutt for that bird but this plane is just beautiful. No Money though 😫😫😫😔😔😔
When I saw this, I thought of the color you picked for your plane too, I enjoy the red in this and this is a very nice.
Good Amazing .
Please do a Cirrus SR22 vs Diamond DA50rg vs Pipistrel Panthera video
Oh, did you touch that TKS panel! That's a no no due to the clogging of the tiny laser drilled holes. Oh, and those little fins are vortex generators to help reduce stall speed and maintain low speed control.
If it came with steam gauges I'd be sold for sure. I don't think I'll ever be a fan of the fancy screens. She looks sexy as heck though. The outside and interior is probably one of the best so far.
Is that a puddle of brake fluid behind the front tire,??
I afraid of flying but for some reason I really want to take classes 😩
What you mean it's not a piston engine @9:13?
A young man.....with enough commas in the bank to make most blush.
Great video
Way I make lots of trips to Colombia with this plane. For research.
You sounded like you were at the candy store too!
I think you may have misspoke, this Warcraft list the engine as a piston engine. It's turbocharged it's not a turbine engine. But it is one nice looking aircraft. Happy its size and power though it looks like it could use a slightly larger more effective prop, that might give you a little bit better fuel burn ratio.
I was hoping that it would be a diesel engine running on jet 1A, but I do not know that it's not.
I have not heard of the DA50RG having a chute. Nothing about this is mentioned on their website or anywhere else and I would expect them to push that pretty hard if that was the case.
they dont have a chute, they dont feel it is needed.
Initially heard: hmm, about the same speed and fuel burn as mine but with twice the seating and extra payload for luggage... NICE!!!
Then I heard: $1.4million, that's more than 30 times the cost of mine!!!
Guess if I need to take three passengers I'll just shuttle them over one at a time, three trips will still be a LOT cheaper!
the price is so unfortunate. half it and it would be cool
You could charter Citations and it would be a lot cheaper!
A 25 year old king air would work too!
@@michaelgarrow3239 hell you could probably buy a king air and fly it for 500 hours
The 1200 tbo is also dumb, even the 915 which is arguably overtuned is aiming for 2k tbo
A parachute in a Diamond? This is a first!
There is no shute on any Diamond, happy to be proved wrong.
It doesn’t have a parachute… which is why this aircraft going up against the SR22 in North America at a higher price point doesn’t make much sense.
@@rabbmuhammad2900 jet A? 10gal/h and the diference is not that high
The only parachute on a diamond is what’s called a electronic parachute which is just a clever name for super auto pilot in which the plane in a emergency will fly itself to the nearest airport and land the plane.
@@DJSouthFlorida amazing
I have a question for the piston pilots out there. Do you use oxygen on a regular basis? I don't think that would appeal to me at all but I have no experience.
This really depends on your mission. Especially if you are IFR rated you will be using oxygen very often. If your are a VMC guy you'll probably be using oxygen maybe once in a while but not too often.
@melthetraveler sighting @ 2:53??
I case of an engine failure on take off or landing the cirrus is terrible 55 people have been killed by impact with terrain, This plane is built to make it survivable in a stall spin, they say the wing won't drop in a tall even if you are on Base to final, it is built for the crash
Is cargo room sufficient for five people taking a vacation?
@4:34 those are the vortex generator
Are there better airplanes for 1.3M? Similar performance and equal or less operating costs?
The piper m350 has better performance and comfort
Reminds me of the Cirrus paint color another rich mans toy.
A young man's plane. Unfortunately it requires an old man's bank account.
I disagree. You can compare this to a cirrus. It’s in the same price bracket, the specs are similar too (payload, distance, speed, altitude). The physical plane might be in a different class. But you said it yourself this is more like a 4 seater with 4 adults. But it’s got a smaller engine and can’t go quite as far as the cirrus. Useful load is about the same
$1.15 million! I don’t think too many of them will be following this one across the Atlantic.
No way jose, that middle seat is a child seat. One thing about the g1000's. I don't believe they are touch. I was reluctant to move up to a touch screen, but once you try one, there really is no going back.
300hp 😁😁😁
Me: Thinking of putting an LS3 engine, getting a billet crankshaft and calling it a day😒😒😂😂
This is truly a sky Ferrari. A diesel Ferrari but still a Ferrari.
1.4 mill wow Think ill stick to a sling. Very nice plane though, im sure worth every penny.
Young men don't have $1.4M to spend on a plane, so that's an old man's plane! ;)
Nice plane. That price is hard to swallow. I'd be looking at how much Meridian or Malibu I could get for this plane's price.
Did you say it's "not a piston engine"?
Very very very nice aircraft !!!
I think he meant, not your run of the mill piston engine
👍 thanks
YW
A used Hawker 800XP starts at $1.5m... Food for thought.
Nice review. Would like to see/hear more about the engine.