Softbox vs Umbrella: OnSet ep. 204

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  • @DanielNortonPhotographer
    @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    2:52 "Wasting Light is the seventh studio album by American rock band Foo Fighters."

  • @tonyhales-BigT
    @tonyhales-BigT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely love OnSet. This episode is just one of the reasons why. I bet there are thousands of photographers out there, me included, that are just beginning to delve in to studio work and flash, and just wouldn't know the basics like this. Sorted in 6 minutes and 16 seconds.
    Thank you Daniel and Mackenzie. 🖖

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tony BigT Thanks!

    • @Nest2Next
      @Nest2Next ปีที่แล้ว

      I just bought my first beginners kit and this video was fantastic for understanding the different usages. I’m looking forward to watching more now! Thanks!!

  • @kennypringle4580
    @kennypringle4580 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I follow quite a few pro photographers on utube and I’ve learned a lot from them. But you my friend are among the best! Your knowledge and the way you explain things is easy to understand, your funny and pleasant personality is an added plus. I will continue being a follower to learn from you as I march on shooting more portraits as the calls come in.

  • @dnaeye
    @dnaeye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    That is the most useful information I’ve ever learned in 6 minutes!

  • @joannamcgaughey6241
    @joannamcgaughey6241 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Still my favorite to watch and learn about flash photography. Thanks Daniel!

  • @KennethStringer1985
    @KennethStringer1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sold! Wish I had watched this video before I purchased my umbrella starter kit, just order soft box started kit, can't wait to try it out. Next investment will be strobes :)

  • @MikeJamesMedia
    @MikeJamesMedia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the very clear demonstration, Daniel and MacKenzie! I've grown to prefer your brighter and more specular portrait style, and this clearly shows what the soft box/grid combo can do, compared to the umbrella.

  • @darrellking7551
    @darrellking7551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked seeing the difference in lighting between the soft box with the grid and without. I did not get a grid with my soft box. Need to order one!

  • @cawzidall_3575
    @cawzidall_3575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is the most clear video, thank you so much

  • @dbj1113
    @dbj1113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    definitely good idea to do more with the soft-boxes.cheers daniel

  • @TaufikGuns
    @TaufikGuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank u sir, as a newbie i learn so much.. 😊🙏

  • @hafiz2664
    @hafiz2664 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These episodes are so good and i can't believe there's already 200 episodes of it.

  • @ez8308
    @ez8308 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Need to start shooting with my grid more often!

  • @jacobchristianglover3655
    @jacobchristianglover3655 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great tutorial Daniel... Be well and stay encouraged!

  • @shinseungjin
    @shinseungjin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always helpful! Thank you so much!

  • @gewglesux
    @gewglesux 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks you two!!! I have wondered about this also!

  • @ryanmurphy1262
    @ryanmurphy1262 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid! Super useful, many thanks.

  • @duaneparker5070
    @duaneparker5070 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great demo Daniel! Beautiful model!

  • @Ronin760
    @Ronin760 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great practical examples. By keeping it simple it was very illustrative. Thank you!

  • @chrisconner1811
    @chrisconner1811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredible demonstration..!! thank you

  • @FeralApparel
    @FeralApparel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very enlightening, thank you.

  • @shakaama
    @shakaama 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm Black, dark skinned, what should i use, for video?

  • @JCM5th
    @JCM5th 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love that grid shot..real nice moody tone.

  • @52253825
    @52253825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great. Much appreciated.

  • @WLolatk
    @WLolatk ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much !

  • @SMFCflyer
    @SMFCflyer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make it look so easy...

  • @HavootuArchive
    @HavootuArchive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very helpful thankyou!!!👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏

  • @gentleman5771
    @gentleman5771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I needed this, ty so much!!

  • @bhzd17
    @bhzd17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe a silly question - the last time I tried this setup, my model's shadow was very harsh and visible on the backdrop. In this video, there's absolutely no shadow at all and the model is standing very close to the backdrop. Am I missing something?

    • @matthewlivingston3168
      @matthewlivingston3168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A variety of reasons I can imagine. Maybe your flash focal length was set up with a narrow throw like 50mm?? So you got a spotlight effect. I usually use a 35 or 24 mm focal length on my flash.

  • @ChemaGD
    @ChemaGD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But we are talking about control. And you are shooting using TTL. I agree on the directionality and light control. Thanks for the video.

  • @fluffyelvis2
    @fluffyelvis2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this dude is awesome

  • @anthonydoriand
    @anthonydoriand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you :)

  • @kinga6606
    @kinga6606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the video

  • @tinderbox218
    @tinderbox218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I notice the ungridded softbox almost acts as its own fill in the shadows. I suspect that's more to do with the octo shape of it.

  • @SpiritOfRadio1988
    @SpiritOfRadio1988 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an eye openning video... i am subscribing !: )

  • @EP-pg3xs
    @EP-pg3xs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would you stop the 3:29 from happening with an umbrealla? Maybe use a different light bulb that emits softer yellower light?

  • @nigelatkinsonphotography3399
    @nigelatkinsonphotography3399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How about the profoto umbrella deep with a diffuser. Over a soft box.

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nigel Atkinson Photography deep umbrella will have a narrower throw.. but not the “edge” control that a soft box has. The diffuser will make it less speculator, but also will likely widen the throw.

  • @danielriano9339
    @danielriano9339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Daniel, I am subscribing now. I got a question, what about the softbox 30x60? Would you rather it more than de octagon you using? It would be for fashion photography for my case not groups. Thanks for your help👏👍

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big boxes cover more area when they are close, thus are "softer" -- so it depends on the look you want

  • @Enrique-the-photographer
    @Enrique-the-photographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one, and no coffee breaks (LOL).

  • @colorspot2640
    @colorspot2640 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please tell me what type of clamp you are using to secure the umbrella to the C stand. I can't find anything that looks like the one you are using. Thanks for the cool videos.

  • @DeeptishOraon
    @DeeptishOraon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing info

  • @The2Harks
    @The2Harks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am doing product photography for online stores. im thinking the umbrella my be the best investment. thoughts?

  • @DaveKesarisingh
    @DaveKesarisingh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Foo Fighters album - Wasting Light

  • @minedgroundhog
    @minedgroundhog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you show how a silver umbrella would compare?

  • @Noealz
    @Noealz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I go with the softbox for control on this one : )

  • @AGS-8785-D1R
    @AGS-8785-D1R 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what mount that is that's holding the umbrella?

  • @jerryimbro7790
    @jerryimbro7790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the program your running to show the photos ?

  • @TonyLewis42
    @TonyLewis42 ปีที่แล้ว

    How in gods name did you eliminate the bright light coming off the window on the right

    • @muzlee7479
      @muzlee7479 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      really strong flash
      You can outshine the sun outside if you have a good enough flash.

  • @cillyede
    @cillyede 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good! Nice girl.

  • @stalkev
    @stalkev 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Daniel, I understand the umbrella results, but it does make me wonder. Would a non shoot through deep umbrella focus the light closer to the softbox ? Thanks again....

  • @outanout
    @outanout 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome

  • @Southlander1000
    @Southlander1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about an umbrella softbox? Would that be a good compromise that could give some of the benefits of an umbrella and still serve as a softbox, too?

    • @shifteleven
      @shifteleven 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm assuming you mean a reflective umbrella with a diffuser over it - if so, then all the diffuser is doing is diffusing the light. That is to say it's making the light less specular. The diffuser won't change the spread of the light. If you want more control, then perhaps a deep reflective umbrella or parabolic umbrella would be better. Or you could try collapsing the umbrella some and shoot through that.

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Southlander1000 if it’s shaped like an umbrella, it’s an umbrella as far as look and coverage

  • @mishasound
    @mishasound 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the first shot is so dark - there is a lot of ambient light in studio?

    • @brigtsd7179
      @brigtsd7179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is on F11 1/250. That makes the picture heavily underexposed (black) with that ambient light. That is intentional since he wants to use the flash as the only light source in this case.

  • @MarcelinoNogueiro
    @MarcelinoNogueiro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial as always. You used a "shoot through" umbrella for this demo, what about reflective umbrellas?

    • @pictureeyecandy
      @pictureeyecandy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Marcelino Nogueiro I agree I would like to see the use of a reflective umbrella Also using it opened and collapsed so you can direct the light better and should darken the background like a softbox.

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      reflective will spread even more

  • @arthurcoon7901
    @arthurcoon7901 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @cosmo0080
    @cosmo0080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if one used a flag with a umbrella help control the light ? rather than a soft box ?
    thanks

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      cosmo ianiro you can control the light in many ways, but that seems like more work than it’s worth unless you don’t have a softbox

  • @UptheMountainVideo
    @UptheMountainVideo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have grids for ubrellas.

  • @srennielsen9141
    @srennielsen9141 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why All the talk about the reflective umbrella and No show? That we have a wast difference between a shoot through and a softbox is obvious. Now show the reflective, what you can and what you can not do compared to the softbox. Remember to change flash-umbrella distance and try a silver without diffust etc. Youre not done yet Daniel!!! ;-)

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shoot through is closer to the look of a softbox and what you would use if trying to create a "softbox look"

  • @EdFrancis-JellyRabies
    @EdFrancis-JellyRabies 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it just me or does Mackenzie remind anyone else of Corporal Ferro (played by Colette Hiller) the drop ship pilot in Aliens?
    Just me? OK, got it. :)

  • @b991228
    @b991228 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on using flags.

  • @teleking58
    @teleking58 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Daniel could you please do a video on using snoots in a shoot?

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robbie Keene hmm. Can’t say I have a snoot in my kit, let me see if I can borrow one

  • @seanstours3913
    @seanstours3913 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the savage backdrop paper? color name ?

  • @dominicwroblewski5832
    @dominicwroblewski5832 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not cool at all. I just leave the grid hanging because I'm just lazy.

  • @bluefilmsltd
    @bluefilmsltd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks very videoy

  • @arturbilousov8666
    @arturbilousov8666 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Daniel!
    Thanks for the video.
    As I know the Profoto light has high quality and temperature consistency, but I can't understand why the photo was made with an umbrella is looking colder than another one was made with a softbox? th-cam.com/video/A1-5LsCjBc4/w-d-xo.html
    Does a light modifier have an impact on light's temperature?

    • @naordaniel
      @naordaniel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      One year after but better late... Well the answer is that modifiers can have impact on the light temperature but in this case, I think that Daniel forgot his white balance on auto (it's just too much of an impact)

  • @viansaimages8670
    @viansaimages8670 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First Comment!

  • @DivineAtheistWannabe
    @DivineAtheistWannabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So basically I should use a Soft Box

  • @andrearusky
    @andrearusky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she looks so miserable on those 3 pics thumbnail

    • @DanielNortonPhotographer
      @DanielNortonPhotographer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      andrearusky yet she doesn’t go on TH-cam and make negative comments, wonder what that says about her vs you.