Not really a copper axe cold forged would usually outperform many grinded Stone axes and Flint knapped axes the reason being simple metal is denser and soft metal doesn't break or snap it just bends and it can hold a thinner edge wich will cut deeper than stone for many swings before u need to resharpen it again and u can easily resharpen soft metal very quickly too so u would have always a better tool than stone with stone u rely more on weight to cut the wood and split the fibers especially with grinded/polished axeheads because they lose their cutting edge and become round pretty quickly Flint Knapped axeheads have the ability to cut as deep as metal because u can make them thinner but they will tend to be more Brittle and usually if u make them very thinn or the cutting edge thin it will be very weak and sustain just a few blows nothing more as such stone axes are always inferior in terms of performance in comparison to metal axes (copper,iron,steel etc) @@user-ur2sc7wn7i
@@rubenmundaca5405 not everywhere. In the Americas, copper was used, but stone and bone tools were still most common. Really interesting how differently they changed over time isolated from the African, European, and Asian.
When i was in my young twenties a friend ordered a bunch of books. I sighed up to get one. It was called Wildwood wisdom by E. Jaeger. Out of that book i learned how to nap flint, make and sew moccasins, build sacks and back boards to hike and carry stuff. I still have it to this day. It been thru a house fire and storage places. Its still my best project books of all time.
Really cool axe Donnie. About a decade ago I was at a knap in and a gentleman made a axe using the thick part of a conch shell. He had ground the axe head like you did your stone one. He let me try it out. I was impressed with how it chopped so well and held up. Thanks again for sharing. As allways I enjoy your videos thanks to my son.
Hello Mr Donny , really enjoyed your video Sir ! I have made a flaked-out Neolithic style unpolished flint axe head that when hafted worked very well ! Initially the act of chopping removed a few more flakes as its like striking the blade with a massive wooden billet! After that was OK ! Having made the axe it did not matter how long the chopping took as I was in no hurry to do the job ,as long as axe did its job ! I got a great deal of satisfaction from the exercise as I did when I first 'gave birth ' to friction fire with a bow-drill arrangement ! Thank you !
That’s awesome to hear. Flaked axes will chip/flake. Totally normal. It’s great you took the the time to build one and get it into action. Much respect!!!
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks I pre-ordered your book on Amazon and look forward to reading it . Thanks for the work you do in showing how primitive techniques really are innovative and well thought-out .
That's a beautiful saying people trash talk a lot nowadays on those who try to have a journey back to the past and try to live how our ancestors lived at least where I'm from people around me even my family and parents tend to trash talk me just for having a hobby of wanting to learn the lifestyle of my ancestors they see it as a useless thing and outdated as well as calling me a caveman for just experimenting with stone tools I wish nobody has such judgemental parents but if u do don't listen to them because it's really pointless they will only drag you out of ur hobbies and will try to lead u onto liking whatever they want u to like such parents can be quite obsessed with controlling their sons down to even what they like or dislike such parents don't realize how dangerous doing this is for their kids and usually such kids rebel against them at the end of abandon them for dragging them out of their own hobbies and happiness in life whilst they do it with good intentions this doesn't justify the deed as such just don't listen to them when it comes to what u like as long as it doesn't harm them or you than ur not obligated to listen to their opinion on ur harmless hobbies
I received your book "Wild Wisdom" today! I hope to settle down and start reading it this weekend. from flipping through it it looks like it's gonna be a good read! Thank you and may God bless you and yours.
Good to see you continuing to build the EDC of the future! People will need a neolithic "grub hoe" to dig the soil to plant crops. I believe various versions of those existed. Probably built like your axe but with the stone perpendicular to the shaft not in line with the shaft. Accounts from the Spanish crossing Florida the first time they came across corn fields that were five miles long and about as wide, all created without steel.
Hi I live in Pennsylvania Bedford County. I find stone flakes and points all around my house. I took them to a state archeologist. They are close to 12,000 years old. I find them all over and especially near the creek. 😊
Awesome video man, definitely showcased just how painstaking notching out for hafting can be when you just use stone tools! So worth it though, I rarely do it in all honestly. I mostly revert to steel when hafting stone blades and heads, but whenever I do use stone flakes and blades on the wood it gives me such a humbling appreciation for the raw materials and the time invested by our ancestors man! 🤙🏽💜
@@storbunlimitedbushcraft6996 absolutely. I don’t really do it any other way except for stone tools. I like how it slows me down and my attention to detail is even better!
hey man love your content, have you ever thought making a video or a series on the leap from stone to bronze tools? i think you would make amazing ancient casting and smelting content.
Man your videos are awesome. Could you sometime make a video on how to make a solid haft because every time i try it is normally still loose. Thanks for the awesome videos!
I bet building primitive tools and weapons with a rock knife for hrs must be one hell of a work out. Always love your content man makes me want to live in the woods.
I just discovered your channel and I am already hooked! Last year I built a similar axe (shorter I admit) and it's a grinding long work, especially carving that hole for the stone. I had to work hours to build it from beginning to end! However I had to listen to some BS corporate, mandatory, training. So while (kind of) listening to the BS I worked for something useful with my hands... At the end of the process I had a stone axe and I felt a real human again! :) I like the irony of it all. Here weere I live we don't have a lot of good stone for knapping, and finding something right takes time. My children learned quickly which types of stones I need, so they are a great help to get the raw materials and sometimes do the first processing of stones. :) I can imagine our ancestors did exactly the same Thank you for what you are doing, you are a great inspiration. However
I made one a few years back out of basalt. Took about 12 hours of knapping into a preform then grinding on wet sandstone till the blade was done, took another day to get a elm handle made for it. Fits great and cuts pretty good.
Great work! The stone where I live in the Lake district, UK, is harder than Chuck Norris's punchbag. The literal days of polishing just to get a working edge............. Happy days when it worked though.
I just started watching you and subscribed. Have you done a video on your dog? What other animals would you consider as useful companions in the bush? I've recently thought of taking my cat camping with me LOL
I've watched a few of your videos and compared your presentations to real world experiences. While I think there's some, SOME, theatriatrics, in your presentation, and why wouldn't there be in a video about your subject, I think it's educational in the whole. You've earned my subscription.
Where to look for these types of stones? I have found some flint but in the river and it isn't that strong And they have these white straps and your stones are clear
So where do the stones come from , ?? Do you go to certain spots or beaches , i know we have some really rocky beach spots here in ireland ,there even some old stone tools from the Viking days in some our museums very cool looking pieces like some that donny builds
Hey some of us live in candy land and can't rely on finding stuff like chert or obsidian. I was wondering if edible sugar glass could be used in flintknapping If so that would be great so i can hunt birds with arrows since protein would be scarce in candyland during an apocalypse. Also what do you think would a better substitute for pine pitch, carmel or nougat?
You should make a video of you using bone tools. I’d be interested to see their limits. I just made a bone knife and it works well for plants but carving is a no go. I’m hesitant to make it thinner for durability reasons. How sharp can you really get with a bone edge?
Now I know why our forests were not cut down a lot earlier in our history. Imagine having to cut and process a large tree with that kind of axe. A lifetime task.
our ancestors had intimate knowledge of the various characteristics of all flora & fauna in their world, especially how the wood from different types of trees
I know just north of you in Fremont county Wyoming there is a very high grade dense type of jade that would make a perfect axe head material if you ever venture up that way. If you need specifics I’d gladly pm you gps coordinates to a spot or two. I lived up that way in Idaho for years and collected the material for just that reason.
Hi Donny !! How long does it took you to carve that hole in that wood , and over all how long to take you to build this axe ?? Where did you get that stone , did you find it like that or you had to do some thing to it to make it better ? Thanks !
Nice work. Question though. I saw that you weren’t taking a “full axe swing”. Is that because you can’t with this type of tool for fear of breaking the handle, or there just wasn’t enough room for a full swing with the shrubbery and other trees in the way?
hence why some primitive societies used beaver teeth as cutting tools too. Some societies actually used their own teeth to gnaw down small trees. But still love seeing the old ways being kept alive.
Do you make the bit with a sharp edge or is it more blunt? I'm currently building my second axe head and I'm not so sure how to proceed with this build? My first attempt looked great but, did not last long.
!0,000 years from now, an archaeologist could stumble upon your camp and come to the shocking conclusion that during the 21st century Paleo Man lived alongside the Industrial culture. They'll ask the usual questions like; did they interbreed and why did the paleos outlast the industrials?
Imagine how cool it was to chop down a tree with a metal axe for the first time, after only using stone axes your whole life
@@MrSkyydude haha…it builds an appreciation for the simple things!
I wld think that early metal axes were soft compared to Stone tools
Not really a copper axe cold forged would usually outperform many grinded Stone axes and Flint knapped axes the reason being simple metal is denser and soft metal doesn't break or snap it just bends and it can hold a thinner edge wich will cut deeper than stone for many swings before u need to resharpen it again and u can easily resharpen soft metal very quickly too so u would have always a better tool than stone with stone u rely more on weight to cut the wood and split the fibers especially with grinded/polished axeheads because they lose their cutting edge and become round pretty quickly Flint Knapped axeheads have the ability to cut as deep as metal because u can make them thinner but they will tend to be more Brittle and usually if u make them very thinn or the cutting edge thin it will be very weak and sustain just a few blows nothing more as such stone axes are always inferior in terms of performance in comparison to metal axes (copper,iron,steel etc) @@user-ur2sc7wn7i
@@MrSkyydude 😏 They strarted with copper. Latter, bronze.
@@rubenmundaca5405 not everywhere. In the Americas, copper was used, but stone and bone tools were still most common. Really interesting how differently they changed over time isolated from the African, European, and Asian.
That dog loves that man! More than life itself! The interest,, the respect, the companionship! It's a beautiful thing!
@@andrewkeibs5958 absolutely. He’s a great bush companion!!!
Girls just don't get it.
Girls just don't get it.
Fuck youtube for removing my comment 3x. "Gyrls just wouldn't get it" Fuck their woke anti male bonding algorithm
When i was in my young twenties a friend ordered a bunch of books. I sighed up to get one. It was called Wildwood wisdom by E. Jaeger. Out of that book i learned how to nap flint, make and sew moccasins, build sacks and back boards to hike and carry stuff. I still have it to this day. It been thru a house fire and storage places. Its still my best project books of all time.
In another 5000 years archeologists are gonna find the remnants of flintknapping dating to today and be confused as hell.
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There’s a book that has this very premise (Parasites Like Us by Adam Johnson). It was a fun hilarious read. Recommend for archeonerds
Every time i see an axe in use, especially any pre-steel age axe, it makes me appreciate living in an era where saws are cheap and readily availablr
Absolutely. Couldn’t agree more!
Donny, you're such a patient man. Much respect for the thousands of time consuming projects you've gone through!
Keep up the kind spirit!
He enjoys the process, every minute of it.
Really cool axe Donnie. About a decade ago I was at a knap in and a gentleman made a axe using the thick part of a conch shell. He had ground the axe head like you did your stone one. He let me try it out. I was impressed with how it chopped so well and held up. Thanks again for sharing. As allways I enjoy your videos thanks to my son.
That was awesome. I've been waiting to see that for a while.
You truly are passionate about your work.Great job😊😊
Sweet puppy. Best. Helper. EVER.
@@ssippisoaps8982 he’s a great dog to have in the bush!
Hello Mr Donny , really enjoyed your video Sir ! I have made a flaked-out Neolithic style unpolished flint axe head that when hafted worked very well ! Initially the act of chopping removed a few more flakes as its like striking the blade with a massive wooden billet! After that was OK ! Having made the axe it did not matter how long the chopping took as I was in no hurry to do the job ,as long as axe did its job ! I got a great deal of satisfaction from the exercise as I did when I first 'gave birth ' to friction fire with a bow-drill arrangement ! Thank you !
That’s awesome to hear. Flaked axes will chip/flake. Totally normal. It’s great you took the the time to build one and get it into action. Much respect!!!
When Men Were Made Of Steel And Axes Were Made Of Stone ! ! !
@@DanielBelliveau-y5x hahaha. I’ll take it. Much respect and appreciation!
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks I pre-ordered your book on Amazon and look forward to reading it . Thanks for the work you do in showing how primitive techniques really are innovative and well thought-out .
That's a beautiful saying people trash talk a lot nowadays on those who try to have a journey back to the past and try to live how our ancestors lived at least where I'm from people around me even my family and parents tend to trash talk me just for having a hobby of wanting to learn the lifestyle of my ancestors they see it as a useless thing and outdated as well as calling me a caveman for just experimenting with stone tools I wish nobody has such judgemental parents but if u do don't listen to them because it's really pointless they will only drag you out of ur hobbies and will try to lead u onto liking whatever they want u to like such parents can be quite obsessed with controlling their sons down to even what they like or dislike such parents don't realize how dangerous doing this is for their kids and usually such kids rebel against them at the end of abandon them for dragging them out of their own hobbies and happiness in life whilst they do it with good intentions this doesn't justify the deed as such just don't listen to them when it comes to what u like as long as it doesn't harm them or you than ur not obligated to listen to their opinion on ur harmless hobbies
Nowadays most man are made of stone and axes of steel I guess balance present in more things than we think about
@@Dav624 Most men have hearts of stone ; but some day GOD will give them a heart of flesh .
My new favorite survival channel. Back to the basics!
I'm not finished watching the video yet and I LOVE it. As always awesome work and amazing video.
@@loicbazin1053 thanks so very much. I appreciate that greatly!!!
Sticks'n'stones. 👍🤙
@@jill-ti7oe absolutely! Let’s keep it simple!
That was impressive to watch! You are as relaxed and confident as a modern wood worker with his steel tools.
Fin, "Is there food in that buckskin wrap?"
Dad "nope polished axe head"
Fin "oh man, back to laying down then" 😅
I received your book "Wild Wisdom" today! I hope to settle down and start reading it this weekend. from flipping through it it looks like it's gonna be a good read! Thank you and may God bless you and yours.
Just got your pre-ordered book in the mail! Looking forward to checking it out. Cheers!
Good to see you continuing to build the EDC of the future!
People will need a neolithic "grub hoe" to dig the soil to plant crops. I believe various versions of those existed. Probably built like your axe but with the stone perpendicular to the shaft not in line with the shaft. Accounts from the Spanish crossing Florida the first time they came across corn fields that were five miles long and about as wide, all created without steel.
In North America they were made of bison shoulder blades.
Love the axe Donny keep up the good work :)
Hi I live in Pennsylvania Bedford County. I find stone flakes and points all around my house. I took them to a state archeologist. They are close to 12,000 years old. I find them all over and especially near the creek. 😊
Always enjoy your videos, in fact I can't stop watching for a good while whenever I watch one!
Awesome video man, definitely showcased just how painstaking notching out for hafting can be when you just use stone tools!
So worth it though, I rarely do it in all honestly. I mostly revert to steel when hafting stone blades and heads, but whenever I do use stone flakes and blades on the wood it gives me such a humbling appreciation for the raw materials and the time invested by our ancestors man! 🤙🏽💜
Donny, you always get me thinking don't be lazy Rob, use stone 😅
@@storbunlimitedbushcraft6996 absolutely. I don’t really do it any other way except for stone tools. I like how it slows me down and my attention to detail is even better!
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks awesome stuff!
Really appreciate the notching demonstration as well! Macuahuitls take so long to notch out
hey man love your content, have you ever thought making a video or a series on the leap from stone to bronze tools? i think you would make amazing ancient casting and smelting content.
@@jakelineham1789 I will absolutely start looking into it. It’s something I’ve wanted to explore!!!
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks hell yeah brother keen as for it man.
Awesome video sir very enjoyable and interesting thank you for sharing this with us six stars brother
So very cool. How many hours do you have in grinding and polishing the axe head? Great video thank you.
Grinding and polishing took two days.
@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks wow that's some labour intensive work there looks great
Man your videos are awesome. Could you sometime make a video on how to make a solid haft because every time i try it is normally still loose. Thanks for the awesome videos!
Beautiful job bro.
I bet building primitive tools and weapons with a rock knife for hrs must be one hell of a work out. Always love your content man makes me want to live in the woods.
I just discovered your channel and I am already hooked!
Last year I built a similar axe (shorter I admit) and it's a grinding long work, especially carving that hole for the stone.
I had to work hours to build it from beginning to end!
However I had to listen to some BS corporate, mandatory, training.
So while (kind of) listening to the BS I worked for something useful with my hands... At the end of the process I had a stone axe and I felt a real human again! :)
I like the irony of it all.
Here weere I live we don't have a lot of good stone for knapping, and finding something right takes time.
My children learned quickly which types of stones I need, so they are a great help to get the raw materials and sometimes do the first processing of stones. :)
I can imagine our ancestors did exactly the same
Thank you for what you are doing, you are a great inspiration.
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@@ronjarosezora thanks!
Awesome.
@@joshcline8764 thanks!
I made one a few years back out of basalt. Took about 12 hours of knapping into a preform then grinding on wet sandstone till the blade was done, took another day to get a elm handle made for it. Fits great and cuts pretty good.
That hole takes more work getting it just right then the rest of building it .
Hi Donny, total time to build and the making of the axes video ? Thanks for the video and the tool !
90 minutes to build it…eight minutes to fell the tree.
Great work! The stone where I live in the Lake district, UK, is harder than Chuck Norris's punchbag. The literal days of polishing just to get a working edge............. Happy days when it worked though.
Absolutely. Some hard material out there. The harder the better!
Awesome 😎👍
Love these hafting videos especially the axes give me the fizz but the adze and arrow hafting is great too.
Morning 👍👍🇺🇲
@@jimbritt2874 morning!!!
Love this video 👍👍
I just started watching you and subscribed. Have you done a video on your dog? What other animals would you consider as useful companions in the bush? I've recently thought of taking my cat camping with me LOL
I've watched a few of your videos and compared your presentations to real world experiences. While I think there's some, SOME, theatriatrics, in your presentation, and why wouldn't there be in a video about your subject, I think it's educational in the whole. You've earned my subscription.
Where to look for these types of stones?
I have found some flint but in the river and it isn't that strong
And they have these white straps and your stones are clear
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@@Wesleybushcraft 🤙🤙
Nice work Donny, what kind of wood did you use for the handle
I used a hardwood…a mountain cherry was the choice.
Is this the same as chokecherry?
what type of stone was that?
rock on 🙂
Thanks!!!
Him using the axe brings a new meaning to beating around the bush 😂
Now you need to test it on a 4' diameter oak
Just found your channel.
I know it kinda useless but still: you’re amazing !!!
Thank you
Badass man! Is that steatite material for the stone axe head?
Good demo, what you think of the flint ones?
They work great. Steel is quicker, but if you had no knowledge of steel….stone is the way to go
@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks totally, you have to put yourself back in time then it all makes sense.
Nuff work that ino make sure y'all like and share bomboclat u got time
Thanks
So where do the stones come from , ?? Do you go to certain spots or beaches , i know we have some really rocky beach spots here in ireland ,there even some old stone tools from the Viking days in some our museums very cool looking pieces like some that donny builds
Интересно, сколько камень продержится в этом отверстии... Хватит на 5-10 деревьев и потом опять пол дня делать инструмент?))
Dog: Is that food? Doesn't smell like it. Alright carry on! 😁
Hey some of us live in candy land and can't rely on finding stuff like chert or obsidian.
I was wondering if edible sugar glass could be used in flintknapping
If so that would be great so i can hunt birds with arrows since protein would be scarce in candyland during an apocalypse.
Also what do you think would a better substitute for pine pitch, carmel or nougat?
You should make a video of you using bone tools. I’d be interested to see their limits. I just made a bone knife and it works well for plants but carving is a no go. I’m hesitant to make it thinner for durability reasons. How sharp can you really get with a bone edge?
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Hello!!!
Now I know why our forests were not cut down a lot earlier in our history. Imagine having to cut and process a large tree with that kind of axe. A lifetime task.
our ancestors had intimate knowledge of the various characteristics of all flora & fauna in their world, especially how the wood from different types of trees
I know just north of you in Fremont county Wyoming there is a very high grade dense type of jade that would make a perfect axe head material if you ever venture up that way. If you need specifics I’d gladly pm you gps coordinates to a spot or two. I lived up that way in Idaho for years and collected the material for just that reason.
What kind of rock is that? By the way, thanks Dunny for your videos
@@samuelmorales6542 my absolute pleasure! It’s a piece of polished chert!
What type of wood did you use for the handle? Does the choice of material affect how long the creation process takes?
Hard wood is best. There are different options out there but a hard wood is best!
Morning
Howdy!!!
Your videos rule
Thanks. Appreciate you watching!
I’m begging you to do a long form peck and polish stone axe head video.
Is this a new area your in. Usually it’s the dessert
Hi Donny !! How long does it took you to carve that hole in that wood , and over all how long to take you to build this axe ?? Where did you get that stone , did you find it like that or you had to do some thing to it to make it better ?
Thanks !
Otzo hafted his copper axe head onto a side branch instead of directly to the shaft. Are there advantages/disadvantages to either method?
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I'm sorry that was hard to watch you fall that tree maybe sharpen the head next time 😎👍💯🔥
Nice work. Question though. I saw that you weren’t taking a “full axe swing”. Is that because you can’t with this type of tool for fear of breaking the handle, or there just wasn’t enough room for a full swing with the shrubbery and other trees in the way?
is there a reason you left the bark on near the head ?, is that to substitute a lashing to prevent cracking ?
I have a question: is there a benefit carving the hole for the stone axe blade over making the hole with the fire?
Are you using such small strokes due to the limitations of the tool or the terrain?
hence why some primitive societies used beaver teeth as cutting tools too. Some societies actually used their own teeth to gnaw down small trees. But still love seeing the old ways being kept alive.
Is easier to make a hole in wood with fire charcoal?
Valheim flint axe be like
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My dudes hands are literally sandpaper. Leather. He'll carbon fiber!
Haha. They are pretty rough. They get the job done however!
Looks like a piece of Cherry Wood....!!!
Looks like Lost Creek Wilderness
Do you make the bit with a sharp edge or is it more blunt? I'm currently building my second axe head and I'm not so sure how to proceed with this build? My first attempt looked great but, did not last long.
Great now I need one 🙄
Haha. No worries…all the materials are in nature!
Can you show us how Neanderthal made traps
If you only used the hand axe without the handle could you build up callouses
Would it be better to fill around the head with pitch. 😊
Works done... alright...huh wha?
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why the store age ended and the dawn of the chainsaw began.
Beavers watching from afar: Doesnt he have any teeth? 🤣 Oh wait, he has thumbs. 🤦
i want to go on a business trip as a clown but I've got no skills. damn
!0,000 years from now, an archaeologist could stumble upon your camp and come to the shocking conclusion that during the 21st century Paleo Man lived alongside the Industrial culture. They'll ask the usual questions like; did they interbreed and why did the paleos outlast the industrials?
Haha. I could for sure throw them for a loop…yes I interbred with industrial culture! Haha
The mosqitos dont like Tabaco smoke ..real tabaco
Maybe you could use some primate drill set up to help you out. That way its not cheating but a little faster. ?-?
god, to drill a tiny hole all the way down... maybe "invent" the pump drill? it was used in the neolithic..
What were you like in your 20s?
Buckthorn, of the European variety
why not use any of the knives you made?
You must have strong fingers ?
I have strong fingers to
What was wrong with your stomach on alone
Natural Mosquito repentant; Mint, Camphor, Eucalyptus oil combo.
Just a friendly reminder- we live in the world Kaczynski warned us of.