Mud Test: The WW1 & WW2 Type 38 Arisaka
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- The Type 38 Japanese Arisaka saw service in both WW1 and WW2. It was designed with a specialized dust and mud cover to protect the action of the gun in the filth of war.
How will it do with the InRange mud test?
Let's find out...
/ inrangetv
PS: Don't forget to check out C&Rsenal's episode on about the Arisaka here: • History of WWI Primer ...
The real reason it didn't work the first time is because you didn't have the bayonet on. When you do this without the bayonet, the rifle lacks the necessary honor to prevent imperialist mud from corrupting your rifle.
Lol Karl sounds so far away! Free him!
Either far away or trapped in a jam jar.
The automatic captions for him are hilarious.
Watching these bolt guns in the mud tests makes the bayonet requirements for rifles make a lot of sense. Yes, a bayonet is a short-range weapon to say the least, but it's better than the gun being an improvised club.
8:13 When my gashole gets clogged always make sure to get my finger up in there to clean the mud out.
Ianu and Karu sama bless us with a new mud test.
My type 38 has the dust cover and you're right it doesn't make noise. Mum is intact too and it's a beautiful rifle that works great
LOVE the tee-shirt! "Tremors" is one of my favorite movies, and has some of the most correct gun handling of any movie.
The shirt was actually a prop item from the short-lived Tremors TV show. :) ~Ian
Holy crap, seeing Ian cycle the bolt Left handed was terrifying, but seeing him do it smoothly right handed is even more so
His dad was a somewhat serious collector of Japanese rifles, I'm sure Ian has been shooting Arisakas for a long long time.
truly, the Arisaka Type 38 has to be the most reliable rifle of all time.
Athletic Brunette with Big Helmet plays in the Mud and Beats on his Long Gun.
That's an accurate description but we won't be using it. :) ~Karl
Hope you got a chuckle out of it. I hope you guys continue to Rise Up to the occasion. No doubt it gets a bit Rough shooting video of such a diverse Handful of Guns. Keep up the good quality, the Depth and Width of your videos is truly something to behold. (seriously though, great work).
Damn Ian, for a lefty you work that bolt blisteringly quick! I can feel a "bolt action assault rifle" ban coming. THE ROF IS TOO HIGH FOR THE NEEDS OF A HUNTER!!!! hahaha
+Ian Klausing I keep hoping that Congress will ban TH-cam comments. ~Karl
Well, the congress of InRange would have my support. I see some very...interesting? Theories on why some of the weapons you guys test fail. I'm waiting for someone to ask if the chrysanthemum being ground off would prevent mud build up on the receiver mitigating excessive chamber blockage.
7:35 Hai!
I love the smoothness of the bolt when it's clean.
"HEY BRO, THROW ME A CLIP"
The mud test are always interesting especially since the mud in the test is sandy mud. Really tough test for any firearm
I love how nonchalantly he moves the band up after the handguard falls off
Emperor Hirohito is pleased by this test. Where and how did you get 6.5 Japanese ammo?
I handloaded it. ~Karl
Probably handload or tracked down a large amount of surplus ammo.
+InRangeTV Karl i'm about to start loading 6.5 myself, what sort of bullets are you using? I picked up some hornady 6.5 140gr SST's they measure .264" but the serrations look a bit high to me
Hah. Does Karl have to ration out the 6.5?
"Karl, wanna toss me another clip of ammo?"
"No, I think that shows everything we need to demonstrate"
"But I haven't gotten any mud on it, yet..."
"Fine, Ian, you're such a stickler for the details!"
The front fell off.
+FlossOrDie *Ploink* ~Karl
This proves that the dust cover wasn't such a lousy or impractical feature as some have described it to be.
This is the first bolt action rifle you've tested that actually passed!
Toyota, Honda reliability didn't come from nowhere. There is a reason why Japanese manufacturing is still a gold standard in the laymen's world. If Japan hadn't tried to take over the world in the 30's they'd be the absolute standard in modern technology and innovation. The religious fanaticism that drove the WWII Japanese military philosophy set Japanese culture back by 100 years.
I'm part Japanese and I will own an Arisaka at some point. Great video and glad these rifles are consider collectible and significant in American and military history.
I was wanting this after watching C&Rsenal's video, you guys are awesome!
the C&Rsenal video gave me a new found respect for the Arisaka.
somehow I'm not surprised by this....there are abandoned Arisakas after the war in the philippines that still function just as long they're internals still functional.
there
Hey this is the best bolt action mud test ever. Who would have known that a sheet of metal can make the biggest difference in reliability.
I recall watching a review of an Arisaka Type 99 and the reviewer mentioned that the Arisaka series is an immensely over built rifle and can handle extreme over pressure loads. Which they tested. After seeing it's little brother pass this mud test with flying colors I can easily believe that they are as overbuilt as claimed. I also heard that myth about Japanese troops discarding the dust cover. Always found it odd. I'd have to agree with Ian about the reason for them being missing. Makes more sense.
Did Karl call Ian "Pvt. Bubble-san"?
Puraiberuto Baberu-san
Great video, I liked that you diagnosed and re tried it with the gas holes plugged. It made for a cool video
Am I the only one that's more curious about what revolver Ian has on his hip is than the mud test itself?
Even though thats a beater Arasaka id still love to own it. To me these firearms had a personality and was a friend at one point in time. It was a life line to a soldier at one point or another he took care of it and it took care of him. In my opinion the best friend of anyone is there rifle since you can always depend on it if it can depend on you.
Big shout out to the Tremors tee Ian is rocking! BRILLIANT!!
Good job on this video and I love this whole mud test series.
"Those two gas holes"... If someone needed a name for another YT gun channel 😀
Its cool to see things work. I want one of those guns for the history its neat to know how well they worked.
Well, the dustcover wasn't designed by Eugene Stoner.
cool gun. looked really fun to shoot!! Enjoy all of yalls videos!
Good information on the bolt mismatches. Learned something new.
Ive literally never taken mine out to shoot because the ammo is so stupid expensive/rare.
Power of the bayonet gave the rifle the strength to power through. Very honourable.
Aaah! Follow up without the dust cover!
Great video, thanks again guys.
Othais was hoping we'd see a mud test on the Arisaka dust cover. Awesome to see it.
It hurts seeing these beautiful pieces of history being covered in gritty mud
Naw, there's more out there. People do this to Mosins all the time, this should be fine according to that logic.
Tactical ninjas never use the dust cover I think it was Ian's father himself who mentions that in Tales Of The Gun: Guns of the Japanese Empire Japanese soldiers thought it made unnecessary noise getting the myth started in the first place if true thats some Skywalker Vader duality right there with Ian talking about them being thrown away
i think your theory makes sense, in china they nicknamed it "big cover 38", dont think throwing the cover away was common practice actually
That shirt is WIN.
Rocking three generations of fashion there... US fatigues, pith helmet and a Japanese rifle with bayonet - how can something so wrong be so right?!
An old trick is to put electrical tape over holes u want to keep mud, rain, snow, etc out of (like the muzzle). Another way for the muzzle is a sandwich baggie or plastic film, held on with a rubber band a bit behind the muzzle. The tape should work for the gas holes, but there is little clearance between them and the dust cover, unless the cover rides over high enough. Since they didn't have good tape really in the 30's and 40's, i wonder if soldiers might have tied a narrow strip of cloth over the holes and around the stock. Great video as always. Hornady or Norma?
Besides all the dishonoraburu and folded 10,000 times comments, this genuinely is a great hog gun in CA. 6.5 arisaka makes short work of a hog. Japanese btw.
My hipster take: The Arisaka rifles are the best Mauser clones
they easily are and arguably better in some aspects
Not much of a hipster take. It's a genuinely fantastic design. Ridiculously strong. The biggest issue is the chambers, which are a bit oversized in theory to compensate for corrosion on ammunition in the high humidity areas Japan fought in. It doesnt affect the military use, but makes reloading ammo for them a pain.
Ah yes, nothing the good ol' Nagant special can't solve. The secret wheelbarrow-beating techniqur
What a cool video, what a great rifle. You guys are great.The Arisaka beat the Russian rile.
that's a neat left handed technique
I’m really surprised to find out how little of recoil this rifle has
do you ever say Forgotten Weapons by accident and force of habit, Ian? ;)
small rubber plugs would definitely solve the vent issue
I have a Type 99, all matching, with original dust cover and monopod. Mum is in tact. Would love to shoot it, but with ammo being as scarce and expensive at it is, its kind of a safe queen.
I love the pith helmet
Japanese bayonets look so fucking cool.
Woohoo! Burt Gummer's Survival School! You have excellent taste in shirts!
Ian is a killer! The rifle came apart.... he looked real quick... then kept going. Improvise, adapt, overcome.
A tear on the Emperor's cheek.
I think people don't treat Japanese rifles with as much respect or seriousness as they should. Sure during that time the country had a reputation for making stuff that fell apart but I think this perception makes people so biased they can't accurately examine and point out what stuff was actually good from that time. Some people would even call something junk before giving it try or research more into it because they already set in their mind Japan makes crap. It's just the wrong attitude if you ask me.
Awesome man... thanks for posting
Poor Othaias was probably so sad when he saw the Arisaka jam so hard
be sure and send this to c&arsenal
now do Mauser, carcano,and the hmg stg if it ever gets released!also maybe the 1888 commission rifle?
Better to have what you dont need than to need what you dont have
3:06 he rechambered so hard he nocked the handguard off
When I was watching the video and listening, the shot sound seemed odd, I assume you sorta edited the loud part of it out. But there was no mention of it.
No, the 6.5 Japanese round is really quiet. It's almost/maybe an intermediate cartridge being fired out of a full length rifle. ~Karl
It appeared that you were being careful to not get mud in the trigger slot.
I could have sworn I'd seen you guys mud test an Arisaka before. I know you haven't, but I'm positive I've seen it.
Interesting to see a bit of gear doing its intended function. TFB TV recently did a list of most reliable guns and #1 was the Galil, would love to see how it survives the dreaded mud test. Also, what revolver is Ian sporting on his hip?
Should've put some mud on that anti-aircraft sight, wouldn't want to accidentally shoot down a P-51!
He’s left handed!? Thank goodness I’m not alone!
Does anyone else tune into these solely to see which hat Ian's going to be wearing this time?
I wonder if different types of mud would produce different results.
Arizona mud seems to have, like Karl said, grindy and sandpapery texture. Maybe sticky clay-y mud would be different, i.e. sticks more to parts but also doesn't provide as much resistance because of finer particle size? Just a thought.
Certainly possible. The German believed there were at least three different types of mud in WW1. We use what we have here. ~Karl
The mud test is as awesome as ever, but is no one going to mention the goddam big iron on his hip?
Great video !!!! Need to do SMLE, Mosin Nagant, Mauser, K31 and MAS 36
As a Canadian, I'd like to see a mud test of the Ross rifle, see if the reports were exaggerated or accurate.
It would be interesting to see how a modern bolt action rifle (hunting) would fare
Biger problem is left handling. Weapon is designed single to righthanders. Simple mechanic
Amazing how soft shooting she is
The 6.5 Arisaka was often criticised for being underpowered compared to the other rifles of the day, but yeah way softer than you'd expect of a rifle of that vintage.
Great video
Wonder if they ever considered using some cork to plug up the vent holes for some extra protection to the action that would blow out in case of rupturing cases.
Also, I see that Ian has a big iron of his hip; is that going in the mud too?
You have probably more knowledge of ww2 than I do but I couldn't help but awkwardly laugh at your statement about Japanese soldiers not throwing away equipment.
There's a book I read a while ago called 'Tales from Japanese Soldiers'
In one of the opening chapters it details a soldier's experience traveling into Burma I think. He says how the mud and rain slowed them down so much that they started throwing away their own helmets and other equipment to make up for lost time. Effectively so they could march to their deaths sooner since a majority of them were killed by mortar fire weeks later.
It's a difference between in the manual/doctrine and in the field/practice I guess.
What happen if you mud Kar98K
That's coming in the future. ~Karl
+InRangeTV what about a cetme or an HK clone?
www.full30.com/video/abe80197c42f7023c13e3408235100a1
Hmm, figured it would perform better.
well it did significantly better then the FN Fal.
Great video
I miss you jumping in the mud puddles, though
How about an 1861 Springfield mud test? :)
nice catch
The milled guide that the cover rides in on the receiver
Plus the tolerances between it and the receiver
And the vent holes
Fucked you
I had that problem when a dropped a type38 at a range once. During a competition
You are honorable
omg awsome shirt I love tremors .I need to get that shirt now
Once again an example of the necessity of duct tape. A small strip of duct tape over the vent holes keep the mud out but not plug the holes. 8-).
And you can wrap any gun with duct tape to improve its performance in the mud test.
Mauser and/or Lee-Enfield Mud-Test(s) up next?
Hmmm. . . Rub a candle over the gas holes (yes, I'm giggling, my inner me is 12) to keep them from allowing debris in but would easily blow clear in case of a problem.
So used to people calling magazines clips that it almost sounds wrong, even when it's right, lol.
Lukas Wallace The clip holds the rounds before they go into the magazine, the clip comes off and you can see him put them in his pocket after loading the rifle. The clip isn’t part of the rifle, the magazine is.
You should do a mod test for a black powder flintlock
time to see if that nice open SMLE action holds up to mud better than a Mauser action.
looks like for the test should give your self one canteen of water, maybe oil and other items a solder would have and see how fast you can get it back in working order.
It shows Dust covers were important parts for guns.
I watched AR works better than AK in mud test.
The reason was AR has a dust cover but AK doesn’t.