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I think this may be the one! Is the stem adjustable up and down, or just the angle? I'd like to attach a Thule Yepp Mini child seat on the front and would need a nice round tube - at least 1" tall to clip on the adapter.
I purchased the Xpeak about a month ago. Having serious issues with the freewheel. Contacted Lectric. Jon was phenomenal. New parts have been ordered at no cost to me and Lectric will also cover the shop fees for parts installation. That's a level of customer service I'm simply not accustomed to. Mind, BLOWN! The TH-cam naysayers just plain wrong. No product is perfect, yet, great customer service bridges the gap between imperfect product and customer satisfaction. Thank you Lectric.
the components are gonna break more often though. The parts they use are cheap junk. Fujita, their supplier is known in China for cheap mass production with poor quality. They're not built to last
@@reallifescience2069 it's 1500. Most of that money goes towards motor and battery. I don't mind a cheaper derailleur or cassette. If customer service keeps things fixed. I'm fine. I have a solid 29" mtn bike for tougher riding.
@@jahmanborneo1343 Those type of parts will need servicing and repair in a few years, and no one is going to want to work on this junk. I know from experience, I wouldn't work on the physical aspects of this bike, because the parts are too cheap. So you will have to learn to replace your own cassette, and index your own gears, and replace your own brake system.
I purchased 2 Lectric XPeak step through bikes in the last week of February and have been very pleased with the design and performance of the bikes. I've taken it out on pavement, dirt and rock and so far have not experienced any issues at all. They are a lot of fun!
@@reallifescience2069 Can you explain more what you mean about junky parts? How would it compare to the parts used in a Soltera.2 for example? Another 999USD bike with a torque sensor (but only 350w motor).
You're interview with Levi is great. I love that he gives candid interviews and you can tell he loves making ebikes. Every company gets their parts from overseas, but at least Lectric is based in the US and if you call them, a super helpful person from Arizona answers the phone. Try that with most of the others. I bought the XPeak because of reviews like yours and the commitment by Lectric to stand behind the products. I think I made the right choice. These bikes are expensive and if I need parts or help, I don't want to email for 2 weeks to Asia and wait for parts. Great channel!
I have 2 XP3.0 and a XPeak. I love them all. The support is the big reason for me staying with the brand. My wife wrecked her XP 3.0 and broke the motor disconnected cable on the brake lever. I told Support what happened and asked for the cost of the replacement. They sent me a new one at no cost. We then had a display crap out on one of the XPs and I emailed support and again no hassles or questions, they just sent another one. I will be pre-ordering this bike just because of the street tires and the extra battery. I plan to use it to commute around my work.
When you get your hands on this bike and the One, I would appreciate some discussion of the cadence sensor vs torque. Thanks, as always, for your reviews!
I too would love to hear the results of torque vs Cadence. At first I thought torque was the latest and greatest, but after doing some reading, it sounds like its easier to go faster with cadence.
My husband just bought the folding trike and he loves it! It did come with shipping damage and lectric was outstanding to work with. It was surprising that we have two local bike shops authorized to work on lectric bikes. I prefer the traditional bike look and riding experience so I may consider this new bike. I will definitely use your link. Thank you for the great review.
I’m still rocking my original v1 xp.Not one problem since day one. I like this new one coming out.I like the standard bicycle look of it for people that don’t want to stand out on the road or when locking up to a bike rack.Great job Lectric and great job on this video.👍🏼
Torque sensing is so much smoother than cadence sensing, and the Lectric XP 750W is an outstanding value. I just added a mid drive to my manual bike because I wanted torque sensing, and it cost as much as the complete XP.
@douglowing4660 I agree strongly that torque sensing is superior in most cases. I'm also currently converting a non-electric bike to electric and my setup will incorporate a torque sensing rear hub motor with a Pinion 12 speed/Gates belt drive.
@@TNSonglines I would like a belt drive, but a recumbent needs a belt 3x longer than normal. It gets cost prohibitive. Anyway, gonna throw on an Enviolo infinite IGH. Tried it on other bikes, love it. Saw a Lectric cargo bike, v good balance of utility and price.
Biggest perhaps, but definitely not the best, and I own an XPedition. I’ve had to modify several features on the bike due to misalignment of poorly-made footboards, brake calipers to rotors, and a center kickstand that constantly loosened due to stacking a flat washer with a split-ring lock washer and that doesn’t include the misaligned mounting bosses for bottle cage and battery mounts, which are very visibly off-center but still function. They make great value e-bikes, but they have noticeable manufacturing issues, some of which can be dangerous (I checked the brake caliper alignment only after a friend had the rear pads ejected from the caliper while braking downhill due to the misalignment - it left unworn sections on the pads, which caught the edge of the rotor, kicking them out with a loud bang), but so far have been correctable. I didn’t nearly lose the center kickstand but my friend nearly did, and that may have caused a sudden loss of control. Net, they offer great value, but give them a very thorough inspection before you ride and during the first 50-100 miles. You may have to file/grind or replace some components.
@@chow-chihuang4903 thanks for the reply, thats good to know. did you contact lectric and let them know about your bikes production problems. its not easy getting quality out of china, im sure its a minute by minute battle in production
@@misterrobert6799 Well, it’s not like they were helping me fix the issues. If it involves sending replacement parts, their customer service is good. When it goes beyond that, it stops being helpful. They did send replacement brake kits. The new bracket for the front fixed the misalignment issue. However, the one with the rear set now uses the original front bracket and won’t work at all - the caliper body hits the rotor before the bracket even gets close to the mounting holes in the frame. When I informed their customer service about this, they told me to take the bike to a shop for service. I can do just as good work as a bike mechanic to resolve the pad-rotor mis-alignment issue, and I’ve got the tools. Anyway, these oversights shouldn’t have happened in the first place, but it’s a risk you take with value brands. I still use the XPedition and like it for running shopping errands, but I’ve had more issues with build quality with it than other DTC e-bikes I’ve bought from other brands.
@@misterrobert6799 Yeah, try to work with them during the warranty period. But if they don’t resolve the issue, and I can fix it, I will. From my experience, and that of my friend who has multiple Lectric products, if it involves shipping replacement parts for you or a LBS to install, they are pretty good. They got sent multiple controllers for their XP 2.0s, which kept burning them out. But if it isn’t as simple as that, they’ll refer you to a LBS or simply not acknowledge the problem, as in just not respond at all to it. When she mentioned the pad-rotor misalignment on her XPedition, they shipped new pads and a rotor for a LBS to replace, but didn’t acknowledge the misalignment. Neither did the LBS. They shipped me replacement brake kits for both front and rear, so I can’t complain about that. The new front bracket resolved the misaligned components there, but the rear’s doesn’t. In fact, with that bracket, the caliper body hits the rotor before the bracket even comes close to the mounting holes in the frame. When I mentioned this, I was referred to a LBS. They didn’t even acknowledge the four other issues I raised, three of which I fixed on my own by swapping or installing components, or grinding a mounting hole a little larger. The fourth doesn’t pose a functional problem, but sure is annoying whenever I look at it, and I can’t fix it as it involves braze-ons that are woefully off-center but not so much they don’t work or pose a safety issue.
Thanks for covering the difference between the two frames. It looked like the handlebars were different on the site but it didn't say it anywhere that I could find.
I have four Lectric ebikes. Two 3.0's and two Trikes. No question the value is exceptional. I had to exchange one Trike due to a cracked axle bearing, which has been an issue for them. Thus far no repair process has been made, so there are many Trike owners that wonder what happens when the one year warranty expires? I'd like you two gentlemen at Ebike Escape to ask Levy about this. Phone support has no answer for that question. In warranty service has been great otherwise. They send new parts that are damaged in shipment, mostly fenders, and sent the hydraulic brake upgrade kits to existing owners.
Great video about these e-bikes and some general knowledge about e-bikes. One thing that viewers should keep in mind is service and repairs. If you buy from a local, independent bike dealer, they will be able to work on your bike when needed. My bike dealer services only the brands he sells. He cannot get parts for any other brand.
I enjoyed you podcast. Question (1) for the LECTRIC ONE. Is there a spot to store an extra battery on it? Purpose of use: I want to do another long tour and have my wife use the Lectric One as the SAG vehicle while I pedal my recumbent. My wife is Thai and tops the tape measure at 4'11 so the 20" wheels ergonomically work for her. Also my recumbent is 20" wheels so we can converse while riding 2 up at the same level! The Lectric One is quite the package and the less maintenance I have to do on my own the better. I was first choosing the Expedition Dual cargo bike because of the extra battery, but the "ONE" has more excellent features. Also (2) can the rear rack be designed to handle ORTLIEB Clip-on Bags? (This came up in a talk with other bikers as to how they can transfer all the gear we have build up from pedal bikes to EBikes.) Might be another good selling point for you. Again great show and seems to be a great company. Hoping you all a highly successful future.. Your thoughts please, Mike
I also have the XPremium and was wondering the same thing. I sure do love my XPremium but I am seriously thinking of getting this XPress to ride. I have never ridden a hub drive, only the mid drive on the XPremium. I like how much my XPremium feels like a normal bicycle, until it comes to putting it into my car. I think I could put the XPress into my Ford Flex a whole lot easier. Lots of cargo space inside the back when you put the seats down and it will be sheltered from the weather and thieves.
I just got in on the great deal they had for the 750 with a spare battery, rack and fenders and the upgraded front suspension for $1399. So excited I got these early and won’t have to wait until June.
As a 70 yr old that own a few e-bikes, at about the 6:03 mark when you stated the DOWNSIDE of a torque sensor, I have to disagree. I totally prefer a torque sensor over a cadence sensor, and I own both. In fact, I just ordered another bike and yes, with a torque sensor. I can understand people will get better range with pedaling a cadence sensor vs. just using throttle. After I ride a cadence sensor and then ride a torque sensor, I always feel I've cheated myself having ridden the bike with the cadence sensor. And feel I might as will have just used the throttle for the little workout I got from the cadence sensor. I'm to the point having owned both, it's highly unlikely I will ever buy another cadence sensor bike. I own a Wire Freedom and bought it because of the rear suspension. I like to pedal, and I'm thinking about selling it because I can't stand that cadence sensor, and feel most people that ride the Freedom are “throttle jockeys”. BTW, in 2019 I bought the original Lectric XP, the one with no suspension, and sold it in 2023. I think Lectric is a good starter bike, but doubt I'll ever own another "low end" e-bike.
I ordered Lectric one march 28 with shipping in early may since then delivery date has changed 3 times. Shipping now is August whenever I will be canceling order.
@@CH-xn9rb I doubt it . When they changed date from may to June 24 I called and was told by a supervisor that since I ordered early it would ship week of may 28. When I checked again same supervisor said June then it changed to July 8 I really don’t expect this time to be any different
I could imagine what Lectric could do with a $2,500 to $3,500 per unit price... Better than E-Cells? Limited edition Lectric Lightning. Hand signature from Lectric team on every limited edition bike. 😂
I have had three super positive experinces with Lectric. Ride #1, my son took a spill an bent the derailleur and break lever. I was ready to buy a new part, but Lectric customer services sent them free of charge. Several months later, there was a big push to get hydraulic brakes installed on older bikes. They made that process easy to register for, and a whole front wheel and new hydro brakes were sent, along with a $100 towards having a shop make the repair. Crazy right. Lastly. Due to my own absent mindedness, my shattered the screen when i was transporting the folded bike. Reached out to lectric to get the part number so i could but one online, and before I knew it they are shipping me one for free. They are not fancy, but if you are looking for an e-bike I would recommend Lectric without reservation.
I have had similar great positive experiences with Lectric. Always sending me free things to fix my problems even if the problems were caused by me. They are just so helpful and awesome. Especially in this day and age!
I just received My 3.0. Am I having buyers remorse? NO. But I do know what I can replace it with . I’ve had mine for a few weeks. Put on a couple hundred miles so far. Only reason I haven’t put more miles on it is because I broke the charger. I bought a good product (so far). And hopefully will put a few thousand more miles on it before I feel the need to upgrade . Your advice is good I feel Your impartial in Your assessments
I would be much more inclined to try out new variants of a given company's ebikes (beyond one I might already own) if they would standardize their battery form factor across their line, more. I would gladly trade the sleekness of having them integrated smoothly into the downtube for the modularity of shared batteries across a product line. The fact that all of the foldables in Lectrics' line don't use the same pack (with an adapter, perhaps) is crazy.
You asked how they make money on first question . Low cost parts for sure . Low cost motor , low cost battery pack . On that note i hope they did not go even lower quality on the motor on the xpress as i watched one video and the motor was very loud so time will tell as customers come out and review them .But if they work and work well for the price then that’s fine . My issue has been as an owner of the Lectric 3.0 is there e-bikes are rated for 28mph but its a pain to reach that 28mph let alone attempt to keep that speed . Huge issue for me . Tried my friends 2.0 and same thing . They have one that wobbles bad if you dare to lift hands off the handlebars . Badly balanced . One where you will hit your foot on the front tire when turning (potential accidents with it) but and this is a big but, they have excellent customer service . That is a huge plus for any company . I have heard of plenty of e-bike companies that have horrible customer service and do everything they can to get out of a valid warranty claim . So just need to fine tune there e-bikes more before putting into production . Now in the interview he mentions comfortably maintaining 28mph pas 4-5 then i may seriously consider purchasing this . Now i wish whey would do away with the 10ah pack and start with 14ah for low end and 20ah for high end . Look up how much each cell costs and you will see the price difference they pay for an extra few cells is literally just a few dollars . Need to get rid of 10ah . They put that in there $2000 e-bike and just no . Right now there is competition at the $2000 price point putting in 60v 20ah packs . The norm at that price is 52v 20ah minimum
Ryan...wonder if you could put a rear rack on one and put a spare battery without it wobbling? Can you test. If it can hold the 10-11lbs and ride smooth it's a great deal cause that is 28ah. If you can't carry weight without wobbling this is a 14ah bike.
How feasible to upgrade the derailleur (better shifter) and shifter to a rapid fire shifter. Would you need to upgrade the cabling or could you use the same cables?
I have now waited for over three months for the xpress that I paid for! At least I got the free mirrors because they are taking so long! Maybe I can ride them!
Have you riden the XPress step-thru? I have a XP 2.0 step-thru. Does the XPress step-thru have LESS of a unicycle feel? I'd also be interested in performance in mountainous regions. There's an 11-32 freewheel on my XP 2.0, which makes a big difference. Would I need to do the same on the XPress to get comparable performance on hills?
Really liking this bike , would like to see a little bigger tires like 2.5 wide be a little better in gravel and dirt paths , also Im tossed between the step over or the step through . I like the looks of the step over but would like to see an upright and adjustable handle bar more like is on the step through and rear rack and fenders standerd these things are still leaning me towards other brands .
Sorry if these are dumb questions but can the seat post be easily removed and replaced with a suspension seat post? Does Lectric sell a saddle with spring with this model? If we add the suspension seat post with spring saddle for other Lectric models does Lectric install those upgrades for us?
They are really striking a blow against many other bike companies with these low-priced but relatively full-featured bikes. My thoughts are: 1. I prefer a thumb throttle as it is, in my view, safer. 2. The use of the Tourney derailleur and shifter is a cheap out and many of their competitors use as a base shifting system the Altus with trigger shifters. 3. I work at a bike shop and we are often getting in various Lectric bikes for repairs. The quality of these bikes, again in my view, is below that of the competition. I understand this, as they are a high-volume manufacturer, however, for a few hundred more you can get an equally good or better bike from Velotric, Aventon, or Ride1Up. I would not put Rad with those three as I think their technology is behind at this point. 4. Bike makers are now more careful to get UL certification not only on their batteries but also as Velotric has done on their entire bike (Discover2). Without this certification, bikes cannot be sold in New York City and I think you are going to see other jurisdictions follow suit. 5. Torque sensors are the way to go. If as Levi says their sensor has some sort of unique design and function as he described, I will give that to him. While these bikes get more people out there, it comes with a price and I think that over time these bikes will be starter bikes for many buyers and fodder for landfills.
I wish they would offer this in the brown color that was shown in the pre production Hi Step model. This company only offers black and white colors except on their cheapest model, I don't understand this decision by Levi @ Lectric if you're listening, please consider this.
Because most bike manufactures cheap out on the charger. A higher amp charger would cost them more. On the plus side, slow charging is gentle on the battery, the battery will last longer.
Does this bike allow you to have two batteries on at the same time? How does the second battery solve range anxiety? Are you supposed to bring it with you in your pocket?
@@EbikeEscape make sure each battery has the same charge or one battery will rapidly charge to balance out and may ignite. Just switch out single batteries
This looks like a phenomenal deal with the battery upgrade. The only thing is once you add in the fenders and rack its close to $1,500 which is still a good deal. I could not wait for this one to come out in June so I bought a Mokwheel Asphalt ST. It's $1,500 and includes fenders and a nice rear rack. It also has a 14.4 Ah battery and torque peddling. Here's what I can tell you as far as the difference between torque and cadence peddling: If you desire a natural peddling feel get the torque. If you want to hit the top speed easily without much effort get cadence. I have both but torque peddling is preferred because I enjoy the exercise of torque peddling. The Mokwheel has 5 PAS settings and I can hit 28 mph in PAS 1. You can't do that with cadence peddling. Going to PAS 3 or above with torque peddling requires much less effort to get to 30 mph and stay there. Cadence is easier but torque is more natural and won't jerk you out of the saddle.
Another benefit to torque sensor e-bikes is the control you have over motor assistance. It helps when navigating through tight turns or maneuvers, such as making U-turns on a path or threading through one of those gates sometimes installed on a path at an entrance or at rail crossings. I find I have to turn off all assistance with a cadence sensor system or get off and walk the bike, but I can ride through just fine with my torque sensor bike. It’s also easy to match speeds with other riders with a torque sensor, especially in a tight formation. It can also be done with a current/power-based PAS on a cadence sensor bike , but very difficult with a speed-targeting PAS driven by a cadence sensor.
I never have been a fan of twist grip throttles. Thumb throttle is perfect! I only use throttle to take off in traffic. I pedal all the rest of the time so I would rather have a full grip just to hang on to while pedaling. I love the look of the bigger tires that are only 2.1" wide. I have been riding my XPremium for 2 years now and find I don't need all the racks to carry heavy stuff around because I just ride my bike for exercise and for 20 to 25 mile rides usually. I have had people say things to me on the bike trails (maybe because of the big fat tires on the XPremium that some people misjudge). This XPress looks more normal and I like that. Wish they had some blue paint somewhere on the white step thru model. Now I do love my XPremium but it isn't much fun to put in my Ford Flex at the end of a ride. I think I can put this XPress into the back of my Ford Flex a whole lot easier. I am waiting till tomorrow to place my order just to feel better about my decision but I am sure I will so I can get in on the sale. I will use the link Ebike Escape has so they can reap the little reward that they deserve for putting out this great review. I have been a subscriber for quite awhile. These guys are great. And so is the Lectric company.
Hmm.. I wonder why not a 52 tooth crank and 11-34 or 32 rear? Makes for more casual riding.. can't cost that much more for a few teeth here and there..🤔
I was raised that Step Thru is for females and can't break that programming. I will ALWAYS opt for Step Over because I'm male. Also, the Step Over deigns tend to have a more stable frame and feel more solid because of the extra bar.
If they would have installed a rear rack that holds up to (or even more) 80lbs...even better. I have only found three e-bikes that would be worth buying out of the hundreds of other e-bikes on the market.
Can anyone explain what is wrong with the in hub motor? Why make bikes super dumb expensive (looking at that new 2k lectic bike) that go the same speed? Seems like they are overly complicating things when they need not be. The 3.0 is a great bike. Anything above $1500 in price is just to stressful to have locked up some place to be easily stolen. Who needs that drama?
The Halo story was at first super endearing, but then when he stated that "XP points" came from games like Halo and CoD he lost a million points, c'mon man!
Looks like the same frame design as the Xpeak which means it will likely have the same death wobble on the step thru model. Ill take a pass on the step thru no matter what because of that, I hate thumb throttles but that isnt a deal breaker since if can be changed very easy. That newer controller they were using is just plain bad, I hope this corrects the issues they had with those. It sounds like they may have from what you are saying.
Step through Guys, find your security elsewhere. BTW, the small motor will before reliable and it, along with the battery, make the bike noticeably lighter and better handling. People all over the world are really excited about theor 259 watt motors with significantly less torque.
thumb throttle is ok. Right hand thumb throttle is ultra stupid. Need to be able to throttle and shift down gears at same time when starting on a hill. Lectric has bad PAS "improvements". Regular PAS gives constant speed which is always what you want. Pedal harder and be rewarded with more range. Also do not have 9 PAS levels, which is perfect for "want faster 5km, then bump up 1 PAS level." Torque is terrible for commuting. Good for lazy newbies only, who'd probably prefer a no pedal scooter anyway.
What do you think of the Lectric XPress? Will you give the Torque sensor a try?
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I think this may be the one! Is the stem adjustable up and down, or just the angle? I'd like to attach a Thule Yepp Mini child seat on the front and would need a nice round tube - at least 1" tall to clip on the adapter.
Any idea of when you may get to review one of these in person?
I purchased the Xpeak about a month ago. Having serious issues with the freewheel. Contacted Lectric. Jon was phenomenal. New parts have been ordered at no cost to me and Lectric will also cover the shop fees for parts installation. That's a level of customer service I'm simply not accustomed to. Mind, BLOWN! The TH-cam naysayers just plain wrong. No product is perfect, yet, great customer service bridges the gap between imperfect product and customer satisfaction. Thank you Lectric.
the components are gonna break more often though. The parts they use are cheap junk. Fujita, their supplier is known in China for cheap mass production with poor quality. They're not built to last
@@reallifescience2069 it's 1500. Most of that money goes towards motor and battery. I don't mind a cheaper derailleur or cassette. If customer service keeps things fixed. I'm fine. I have a solid 29" mtn bike for tougher riding.
Customer Services is the best, however they need more staff. I have a 3.0, but the Xepress appears to be a great buy.
Your review is excellent.😊
@@jahmanborneo1343 Those type of parts will need servicing and repair in a few years, and no one is going to want to work on this junk. I know from experience, I wouldn't work on the physical aspects of this bike, because the parts are too cheap. So you will have to learn to replace your own cassette, and index your own gears, and replace your own brake system.
@@jahmanborneo1343 good luck! 😄
I purchased 2 Lectric XPeak step through bikes in the last week of February and have been very pleased with the design and performance of the bikes. I've taken it out on pavement, dirt and rock and so far have not experienced any issues at all. They are a lot of fun!
The upgraded model with 750w motor and bigger battery plus a free battery is a phenomenal value.
junky parts though. Looks like an electric walmart bike.
@@reallifescience2069 Can you explain more what you mean about junky parts? How would it compare to the parts used in a Soltera.2 for example? Another 999USD bike with a torque sensor (but only 350w motor).
You're interview with Levi is great. I love that he gives candid interviews and you can tell he loves making ebikes. Every company gets their parts from overseas, but at least Lectric is based in the US and if you call them, a super helpful person from Arizona answers the phone. Try that with most of the others. I bought the XPeak because of reviews like yours and the commitment by Lectric to stand behind the products. I think I made the right choice. These bikes are expensive and if I need parts or help, I don't want to email for 2 weeks to Asia and wait for parts. Great channel!
I have 2 XP3.0 and a XPeak. I love them all. The support is the big reason for me staying with the brand. My wife wrecked her XP 3.0 and broke the motor disconnected cable on the brake lever. I told Support what happened and asked for the cost of the replacement. They sent me a new one at no cost. We then had a display crap out on one of the XPs and I emailed support and again no hassles or questions, they just sent another one. I will be pre-ordering this bike just because of the street tires and the extra battery. I plan to use it to commute around my work.
Did you have an extended warranty with it? Do you recommend the extended warranty?
When you get your hands on this bike and the One, I would appreciate some discussion of the cadence sensor vs torque. Thanks, as always, for your reviews!
I too would love to hear the results of torque vs Cadence. At first I thought torque was the latest and greatest, but after doing some reading, it sounds like its easier to go faster with cadence.
Im not in to fat tire ebikes. Ive been waiting for this one. No twist-grip throttle irks me, but all and all its a winner.
My husband just bought the folding trike and he loves it! It did come with shipping damage and lectric was outstanding to work with. It was surprising that we have two local bike shops authorized to work on lectric bikes. I prefer the traditional bike look and riding experience so I may consider this new bike. I will definitely use your link. Thank you for the great review.
Glad to hear it and thank you!
I’m still rocking my original v1 xp.Not one problem since day one. I like this new one coming out.I like the standard bicycle look of it for people that don’t want to stand out on the road or when locking up to a bike rack.Great job Lectric and great job on this video.👍🏼
Torque sensing is so much smoother than cadence sensing, and the Lectric XP 750W is an outstanding value. I just added a mid drive to my manual bike because I wanted torque sensing, and it cost as much as the complete XP.
@douglowing4660
I agree strongly that torque sensing is superior in most cases. I'm also currently converting a non-electric bike to electric and my setup will incorporate a torque sensing rear hub motor with a Pinion 12 speed/Gates belt drive.
@@TNSonglines I would like a belt drive, but a recumbent needs a belt 3x longer than normal. It gets cost prohibitive. Anyway, gonna throw on an Enviolo infinite IGH. Tried it on other bikes, love it. Saw a Lectric cargo bike, v good balance of utility and price.
Halo 3 ODST really brought back memories-such a nostalgic trip every time I play!
Lectric is really accelerating fast to be the best ebike builder
Biggest perhaps, but definitely not the best, and I own an XPedition.
I’ve had to modify several features on the bike due to misalignment of poorly-made footboards, brake calipers to rotors, and a center kickstand that constantly loosened due to stacking a flat washer with a split-ring lock washer and that doesn’t include the misaligned mounting bosses for bottle cage and battery mounts, which are very visibly off-center but still function.
They make great value e-bikes, but they have noticeable manufacturing issues, some of which can be dangerous (I checked the brake caliper alignment only after a friend had the rear pads ejected from the caliper while braking downhill due to the misalignment - it left unworn sections on the pads, which caught the edge of the rotor, kicking them out with a loud bang), but so far have been correctable. I didn’t nearly lose the center kickstand but my friend nearly did, and that may have caused a sudden loss of control.
Net, they offer great value, but give them a very thorough inspection before you ride and during the first 50-100 miles. You may have to file/grind or replace some components.
@@chow-chihuang4903 thanks for the reply, thats good to know. did you contact lectric and let them know about your bikes production problems. its not easy getting quality out of china, im sure its a minute by minute battle in production
Thereby violating any warranty.
@@misterrobert6799 Well, it’s not like they were helping me fix the issues. If it involves sending replacement parts, their customer service is good. When it goes beyond that, it stops being helpful.
They did send replacement brake kits. The new bracket for the front fixed the misalignment issue. However, the one with the rear set now uses the original front bracket and won’t work at all - the caliper body hits the rotor before the bracket even gets close to the mounting holes in the frame. When I informed their customer service about this, they told me to take the bike to a shop for service. I can do just as good work as a bike mechanic to resolve the pad-rotor mis-alignment issue, and I’ve got the tools.
Anyway, these oversights shouldn’t have happened in the first place, but it’s a risk you take with value brands. I still use the XPedition and like it for running shopping errands, but I’ve had more issues with build quality with it than other DTC e-bikes I’ve bought from other brands.
@@misterrobert6799 Yeah, try to work with them during the warranty period.
But if they don’t resolve the issue, and I can fix it, I will.
From my experience, and that of my friend who has multiple Lectric products, if it involves shipping replacement parts for you or a LBS to install, they are pretty good. They got sent multiple controllers for their XP 2.0s, which kept burning them out. But if it isn’t as simple as that, they’ll refer you to a LBS or simply not acknowledge the problem, as in just not respond at all to it.
When she mentioned the pad-rotor misalignment on her XPedition, they shipped new pads and a rotor for a LBS to replace, but didn’t acknowledge the misalignment. Neither did the LBS. They shipped me replacement brake kits for both front and rear, so I can’t complain about that. The new front bracket resolved the misaligned components there, but the rear’s doesn’t. In fact, with that bracket, the caliper body hits the rotor before the bracket even comes close to the mounting holes in the frame. When I mentioned this, I was referred to a LBS. They didn’t even acknowledge the four other issues I raised, three of which I fixed on my own by swapping or installing components, or grinding a mounting hole a little larger. The fourth doesn’t pose a functional problem, but sure is annoying whenever I look at it, and I can’t fix it as it involves braze-ons that are woefully off-center but not so much they don’t work or pose a safety issue.
Thanks for covering the difference between the two frames. It looked like the handlebars were different on the site but it didn't say it anywhere that I could find.
For sure - I wanted to call that out. Glad it helped!
I have four Lectric ebikes. Two 3.0's and two Trikes. No question the value is exceptional. I had to exchange one Trike due to a cracked axle bearing, which has been an issue for them. Thus far no repair process has been made, so there are many Trike owners that wonder what happens when the one year warranty expires? I'd like you two gentlemen at Ebike Escape to ask Levy about this. Phone support has no answer for that question. In warranty service has been great otherwise. They send new parts that are damaged in shipment, mostly fenders, and sent the hydraulic brake upgrade kits to existing owners.
Great video about these e-bikes and some general knowledge about e-bikes.
One thing that viewers should keep in mind is service and repairs. If you buy from a local, independent bike dealer, they will be able to work on your bike when needed.
My bike dealer services only the brands he sells. He cannot get parts for any other brand.
I enjoyed you podcast.
Question (1) for the LECTRIC ONE. Is there a spot to store an extra battery on it? Purpose of use: I want to do another long tour and have my wife use the Lectric One as the SAG vehicle while I pedal my recumbent. My wife is Thai and tops the tape measure at 4'11 so the 20" wheels ergonomically work for her. Also my recumbent is 20" wheels so we can converse while riding 2 up at the same level!
The Lectric One is quite the package and the less maintenance I have to do on my own the better. I was first choosing the Expedition Dual cargo bike because of the extra battery, but the "ONE" has more excellent features.
Also (2) can the rear rack be designed to handle ORTLIEB Clip-on Bags? (This came up in a talk with other bikers as to how they can transfer all the gear we have build up from pedal bikes to EBikes.) Might be another good selling point for you.
Again great show and seems to be a great company. Hoping you all a highly successful future..
Your thoughts please, Mike
Thumbs up 👍 I'm surprised an American company is undercutting Chinese brands. Wow 👀
Doesn't my (now discontinued) XPremium have a torque sensor?
Yes
@@treydrier3169 both Lectric and Elektrek both said it does, though
Yes, it is part of the Truckrun mid-drive motor.
@@chow-chihuang4903 you know, I bet they meant their first first-party torque sensor, maybe?
I also have the XPremium and was wondering the same thing. I sure do love my XPremium but I am seriously thinking of getting this XPress to ride. I have never ridden a hub drive, only the mid drive on the XPremium. I like how much my XPremium feels like a normal bicycle, until it comes to putting it into my car. I think I could put the XPress into my Ford Flex a whole lot easier. Lots of cargo space inside the back when you put the seats down and it will be sheltered from the weather and thieves.
I just got in on the great deal they had for the 750 with a spare battery, rack and fenders and the upgraded front suspension for $1399. So excited I got these early and won’t have to wait until June.
Do you have an option for a tow behind trailer? And/or would a standard trailer work on the xpress?
Enjoy!
I just order the same deal. Did you get yours yet ? Mine ship's in July.
This seems like a good bike for anyone getting the E Bike Bug.. Look no further.🍷Cheers to the future of E Bikes 🤘
Swept back, and higher handlebars along with step-thru frame is the only way to go for me.
As a 70 yr old that own a few e-bikes, at about the 6:03 mark when you stated the DOWNSIDE of a torque sensor, I have to disagree. I totally prefer a torque sensor over a cadence sensor, and I own both. In fact, I just ordered another bike and yes, with a torque sensor.
I can understand people will get better range with pedaling a cadence sensor vs. just using throttle. After I ride a cadence sensor and then ride a torque sensor, I always feel I've cheated myself having ridden the bike with the cadence sensor. And feel I might as will have just used the throttle for the little workout I got from the cadence sensor.
I'm to the point having owned both, it's highly unlikely I will ever buy another cadence sensor bike.
I own a Wire Freedom and bought it because of the rear suspension. I like to pedal, and I'm thinking about selling it because I can't stand that cadence sensor, and feel most people that ride the Freedom are “throttle jockeys”.
BTW, in 2019 I bought the original Lectric XP, the one with no suspension, and sold it in 2023. I think Lectric is a good starter bike, but doubt I'll ever own another "low end" e-bike.
I ordered Lectric one march 28 with shipping in early may since then delivery date has changed 3 times. Shipping now is August whenever I will be canceling order.
Bummer, that's the challenge with these pre release ebikes. I appreciate you sharing the info and hope you find another ebike.
is it possible that's the date for new orders and the orders placed a while back ship sooner?
@@CH-xn9rb I doubt it . When they changed date from may to June 24 I called and was told by a supervisor that since I ordered early it would ship week of may 28. When I checked again same supervisor said June then it changed to July 8 I really don’t expect this time to be any different
@@phillipl9746 just got an email saying the Xpress is delayed also
I could imagine what Lectric could do with a $2,500 to $3,500 per unit price... Better than E-Cells? Limited edition Lectric Lightning. Hand signature from Lectric team on every limited edition bike. 😂
I have had three super positive experinces with Lectric. Ride #1, my son took a spill an bent the derailleur and break lever. I was ready to buy a new part, but Lectric customer services sent them free of charge. Several months later, there was a big push to get hydraulic brakes installed on older bikes. They made that process easy to register for, and a whole front wheel and new hydro brakes were sent, along with a $100 towards having a shop make the repair. Crazy right. Lastly. Due to my own absent mindedness, my shattered the screen when i was transporting the folded bike. Reached out to lectric to get the part number so i could but one online, and before I knew it they are shipping me one for free. They are not fancy, but if you are looking for an e-bike I would recommend Lectric without reservation.
I have had similar great positive experiences with Lectric. Always sending me free things to fix my problems even if the problems were caused by me. They are just so helpful and awesome. Especially in this day and age!
I just received My 3.0. Am I having buyers remorse? NO. But I do know what I can replace it with . I’ve had mine for a few weeks. Put on a couple hundred miles so far. Only reason I haven’t put more miles on it is because I broke the charger. I bought a good product (so far). And hopefully will put a few thousand more miles on it before I feel the need to upgrade . Your advice is good I feel Your impartial in Your assessments
I would be much more inclined to try out new variants of a given company's ebikes (beyond one I might already own) if they would standardize their battery form factor across their line, more. I would gladly trade the sleekness of having them integrated smoothly into the downtube for the modularity of shared batteries across a product line.
The fact that all of the foldables in Lectrics' line don't use the same pack (with an adapter, perhaps) is crazy.
You asked how they make money on first question . Low cost parts for sure . Low cost motor , low cost battery pack . On that note i hope they did not go even lower quality on the motor on the xpress as i watched one video and the motor was very loud so time will tell as customers come out and review them .But if they work and work well for the price then that’s fine . My issue has been as an owner of the Lectric 3.0 is there e-bikes are rated for 28mph but its a pain to reach that 28mph let alone attempt to keep that speed . Huge issue for me . Tried my friends 2.0 and same thing . They have one that wobbles bad if you dare to lift hands off the handlebars . Badly balanced . One where you will hit your foot on the front tire when turning (potential accidents with it) but and this is a big but, they have excellent customer service . That is a huge plus for any company . I have heard of plenty of e-bike companies that have horrible customer service and do everything they can to get out of a valid warranty claim . So just need to fine tune there e-bikes more before putting into production .
Now in the interview he mentions comfortably maintaining 28mph pas 4-5 then i may seriously consider purchasing this . Now i wish whey would do away with the 10ah pack and start with 14ah for low end and 20ah for high end . Look up how much each cell costs and you will see the price difference they pay for an extra few cells is literally just a few dollars . Need to get rid of 10ah . They put that in there $2000 e-bike and just no . Right now there is competition at the $2000 price point putting in 60v 20ah packs . The norm at that price is 52v 20ah minimum
@EbikeEscape do you plan to do a full review on the XPress?
Yes! Working on it now
Ryan...wonder if you could put a rear rack on one and put a spare battery without it wobbling? Can you test. If it can hold the 10-11lbs and ride smooth it's a great deal cause that is 28ah. If you can't carry weight without wobbling this is a 14ah bike.
How feasible to upgrade the derailleur (better shifter) and shifter to a rapid fire shifter. Would you need to upgrade the cabling or could you use the same cables?
Potholes in wisconsin? Say it ain't so!
I have now waited for over three months for the xpress that I paid for! At least I got the free mirrors because they are taking so long! Maybe I can ride them!
I’m trying to get my father to buy 2 of these. It looks like a great bike. I have the xpeak and love it.
Nice! Appreciate it if he uses our links if he decides to buy :)
Would this be a good bike for a senior? If you get tired and can’t peddle anymore will this bike still work?
There is a throttle so you're good to go, but more than likely you'll still pedal and just put in less effort.
Willing to pay few hundred $$$ more for Belt Drive + IGH option. Nice improvements from Lectric. Rear rack seems a little weak at 30lbs limit.
Have you riden the XPress step-thru? I have a XP 2.0 step-thru. Does the XPress step-thru have LESS of a unicycle feel?
I'd also be interested in performance in mountainous regions. There's an 11-32 freewheel on my XP 2.0, which makes a big difference. Would I need to do the same on the XPress to get comparable performance on hills?
Belt drive and mid motor would be awesome but it's less than 1/2 the price of Prodigy V2. 46t feels like a pain point though
Really liking this bike , would like to see a little bigger tires like 2.5 wide be a little better in gravel and dirt paths , also Im tossed between the step over or the step through . I like the looks of the step over but would like to see an upright and adjustable handle bar more like is on the step through and rear rack and fenders standerd these things are still leaning me towards other brands .
I used to like high step but step through has made it so much easier to mount a basket on the back. My bike is much more usable for errands now.
Lectric Xpress not to bad. 😀
Sorry if these are dumb questions but can the seat post be easily removed and replaced with a suspension seat post? Does Lectric sell a saddle with spring with this model? If we add the suspension seat post with spring saddle for other Lectric models does Lectric install those upgrades for us?
I have a Radrunner 1 and I want to give to a friend that has balance issues. Where can I get some sort of stabilizer (training wheels) to put on it.
not sure that's feasible on adult bikes. Trike bike is only real option , $1500 for the Lectric version new .
They are really striking a blow against many other bike companies with these low-priced but relatively full-featured bikes. My thoughts are: 1. I prefer a thumb throttle as it is, in my view, safer. 2. The use of the Tourney derailleur and shifter is a cheap out and many of their competitors use as a base shifting system the Altus with trigger shifters. 3. I work at a bike shop and we are often getting in various Lectric bikes for repairs. The quality of these bikes, again in my view, is below that of the competition. I understand this, as they are a high-volume manufacturer, however, for a few hundred more you can get an equally good or better bike from Velotric, Aventon, or Ride1Up. I would not put Rad with those three as I think their technology is behind at this point. 4. Bike makers are now more careful to get UL certification not only on their batteries but also as Velotric has done on their entire bike (Discover2). Without this certification, bikes cannot be sold in New York City and I think you are going to see other jurisdictions follow suit. 5. Torque sensors are the way to go. If as Levi says their sensor has some sort of unique design and function as he described, I will give that to him.
While these bikes get more people out there, it comes with a price and I think that over time these bikes will be starter bikes for many buyers and fodder for landfills.
I wish they would offer this in the brown color that was shown in the pre production Hi Step model. This company only offers black and white colors except on their cheapest model, I don't understand this decision by Levi @ Lectric if you're listening, please consider this.
Where is the torque sensor located on this bike? What type of torque sensor is it?
Why do bike batteries take so long to charge around 100w/hrs? batteries banks like ecoflow can charge so much faster at around 1000w?
Because most bike manufactures cheap out on the charger. A higher amp charger would cost them more. On the plus side, slow charging is gentle on the battery, the battery will last longer.
Does this bike allow you to have two batteries on at the same time? How does the second battery solve range anxiety? Are you supposed to bring it with you in your pocket?
We have a battery bag that can attach to a rack 😉. But it's a fair point
@@EbikeEscape make sure each battery has the same charge or one battery will rapidly charge to balance out and may ignite. Just switch out single batteries
This looks like a phenomenal deal with the battery upgrade. The only thing is once you add in the fenders and rack its close to $1,500 which is still a good deal. I could not wait for this one to come out in June so I bought a Mokwheel Asphalt ST. It's $1,500 and includes fenders and a nice rear rack. It also has a 14.4 Ah battery and torque peddling. Here's what I can tell you as far as the difference between torque and cadence peddling: If you desire a natural peddling feel get the torque. If you want to hit the top speed easily without much effort get cadence. I have both but torque peddling is preferred because I enjoy the exercise of torque peddling. The Mokwheel has 5 PAS settings and I can hit 28 mph in PAS 1. You can't do that with cadence peddling. Going to PAS 3 or above with torque peddling requires much less effort to get to 30 mph and stay there. Cadence is easier but torque is more natural and won't jerk you out of the saddle.
Another benefit to torque sensor e-bikes is the control you have over motor assistance. It helps when navigating through tight turns or maneuvers, such as making U-turns on a path or threading through one of those gates sometimes installed on a path at an entrance or at rail crossings. I find I have to turn off all assistance with a cadence sensor system or get off and walk the bike, but I can ride through just fine with my torque sensor bike.
It’s also easy to match speeds with other riders with a torque sensor, especially in a tight formation. It can also be done with a current/power-based PAS on a cadence sensor bike , but very difficult with a speed-targeting PAS driven by a cadence sensor.
I agree, I'd definitely go with the safety of the step-thru, and if any other dude hAS EVER GOT RACKED on that Cross Bar knows, it is evil. lol
Step-thru is the way to go!
I never have been a fan of twist grip throttles. Thumb throttle is perfect! I only use throttle to take off in traffic. I pedal all the rest of the time so I would rather have a full grip just to hang on to while pedaling. I love the look of the bigger tires that are only 2.1" wide. I have been riding my XPremium for 2 years now and find I don't need all the racks to carry heavy stuff around because I just ride my bike for exercise and for 20 to 25 mile rides usually. I have had people say things to me on the bike trails (maybe because of the big fat tires on the XPremium that some people misjudge). This XPress looks more normal and I like that. Wish they had some blue paint somewhere on the white step thru model. Now I do love my XPremium but it isn't much fun to put in my Ford Flex at the end of a ride. I think I can put this XPress into the back of my Ford Flex a whole lot easier. I am waiting till tomorrow to place my order just to feel better about my decision but I am sure I will so I can get in on the sale. I will use the link Ebike Escape has so they can reap the little reward that they deserve for putting out this great review. I have been a subscriber for quite awhile. These guys are great. And so is the Lectric company.
Can the pedals be replaced with normal non-quick-release pedals?
Yes
Hmm.. I wonder why not a 52 tooth crank and 11-34 or 32 rear? Makes for more casual riding.. can't cost that much more for a few teeth here and there..🤔
Yes, 11-32/34. They seem to forget about mountainous regions.
I’m wanting a bike that can be used on pavement as well as on trails. Will this bike do both?
Depends what kind of trails - might want to go with the XPeak.
I was raised that Step Thru is for females and can't break that programming. I will ALWAYS opt for Step Over because I'm male. Also, the Step Over deigns tend to have a more stable frame and feel more solid because of the extra bar.
If they would have installed a rear rack that holds up to (or even more) 80lbs...even better.
I have only found three e-bikes that would be worth buying out of the hundreds of other e-bikes on the market.
3.0 does lol
I'm potential buyer, this brand is not yet popular in Poland AFAIK.
Can anyone explain what is wrong with the in hub motor? Why make bikes super dumb expensive (looking at that new 2k lectic bike) that go the same speed? Seems like they are overly complicating things when they need not be. The 3.0 is a great bike. Anything above $1500 in price is just to stressful to have locked up some place to be easily stolen. Who needs that drama?
Wish it could of been 8 or 9 speed.
I’m thinking that there needs to be a test of bikes driving up a hill with no petal assistance
Yes! Will get that for you as soon as I can.
But needs better suspension
The Halo story was at first super endearing, but then when he stated that "XP points" came from games like Halo and CoD he lost a million points, c'mon man!
My Lectric Xpremium has a torque sensor.
Yes, I mean to say "first hub-drive torque sensor"
This is not the first Torque Sensor on a lectric ebike the Xpremium has a Torque Sensor
Assuming this can unlock to a class 3 like the others?
Correct. Easily done in the display.
no fenders? hmm
I thought the same thing, but then my wife pointed out that my current non-ebike doesn't have fenders either...lol
Is this video a review or paid advertisement?
Not a review - we didn't get the bike yet. But trying to provide as much helpful info as possible.
Looks like the same frame design as the Xpeak which means it will likely have the same death wobble on the step thru model. Ill take a pass on the step thru no matter what because of that, I hate thumb throttles but that isnt a deal breaker since if can be changed very easy. That newer controller they were using is just plain bad, I hope this corrects the issues they had with those. It sounds like they may have from what you are saying.
Step through
Guys, find your security elsewhere. BTW, the small motor will before reliable and it, along with the battery, make the bike noticeably lighter and better handling. People all over the world are really excited about theor 259 watt motors with significantly less torque.
At this price i like the Aventon Soltera
The Aventon Soltera's motor is only 350W. That's pretty weak compared to the XPress.
Tourney is garbage
thumb throttle is ok. Right hand thumb throttle is ultra stupid. Need to be able to throttle and shift down gears at same time when starting on a hill. Lectric has bad PAS "improvements". Regular PAS gives constant speed which is always what you want. Pedal harder and be rewarded with more range. Also do not have 9 PAS levels, which is perfect for "want faster 5km, then bump up 1 PAS level." Torque is terrible for commuting. Good for lazy newbies only, who'd probably prefer a no pedal scooter anyway.