It reminded me of breaking a board or a tile in Karate there set of mind was to "VISION" the other side of the board even they would make a circular mark on it and then they would say to see it in your mind and sent your punch in a way to only reach the Circle and that is how you break hard materials, also in Japan they call it the "Demak" sending that energy to a specific depth In any case the secret seams to be the Yin and Yang from soft to hard , in my early years I practiced hours and hours on a candle trying to "SEND" my energy and focusing it on the light every time I relaxed took a deep breath and let the tension out of my lower body I blew out the candle but when I tried hard to do it with muscle power nothing and I mean nothing happened. Thanx for the information it means a lot to me personally.
That elbow force you talk about is caused by the use of MULTIPLE VECTOR ANGLES which cause the opponent to rely on smaller stabilizer muscles instead of the larger muscles of the chest, back and shoulder. This is why ALL our techniques work! Even the corkscrewing motion of the techniques causes multiple vector angle changes and the arm rides over the opponent's arm and energy is GRADUALLY released! This is why we can take very hard hits because we don't take the force directly, and the force is slowly released over a larger distance.
Spiral the line; return to the "spine". Energy over movement, focus over force. Conformation of energy is also a key many neglect. Pressure = force/area. So, softness allows conformation, which increases area [thereby decreasing force]. Good man. Wing Chun is an energy-based art, NOT a movement-based art. And energy is directed by intention [the mind]. I can tell you truly consider the system.
@@mightymeatmonsta Our "hard" force should be specific along our line of attack [elbows and knees], then released immediately upon transfer of energy. This is so energy doesn't feed back, but also for efficiency and effortlessness. Our hard force is like a nail-gun driven from the elbow. Hard via structure, only tightened upon contact [driving energy]. Loose immediately so our opponent is unable to use our line to affect our center. I'm third generation Ip Man via a closed-door student of Duncan Leung [himself a closed-door student]. Most do not understand the system. However, the majority err to the side of "hard" energy rather than softness. We need both and to understand "why" so we know "when". I feel the CST lineage is very important because it is one of the few [openly] acknowledging the internal aspects of the art. I was taught with a focus on these as well as pressure points and hidden applications. I say: trust the Ip Man system: much is hidden in the forms. But the forms do NOT teach the applications. They are an examination of tools and "our" energy. Only then can we begin to "build". Structure is the "middle man" for state. Only once we ponder and trust the system with humility do we discover what so many have lost. I love your obvious passion for the art. It is worth such passion. But it hides from our pride by it's very nature. Wing Chun is the Way of Wisdom.
@@hiddenpathwingchun5045 EXCELLENT! I agree with everything you just said! Right! I use the analogy of a dent puller, whose energy is cumulative and at the end, concentrated into the bottom two knuckles. You can also use the analogy of a wet towel whipping or the action of the whip. Our energy starts out relaxed, then we tense upon impact, going about two inches past the point of contact, hitting first with the bottom three knuckles, then after going in two inches, cock the fist so the energy concentrates much as a laser does (three beams into one beam), imparting the concentrated energy upon a major organ or soft target. I like breaking it down so even the rank beginner can understand what I am saying! Cho Shu Tin is one of the original five who learned the traditional from Ip Man. The other was William Cheung, and three others who live in Malaysia and Thailand (sorry, can't remember their names). If you notice, ALL traditional systems use the angled step and body rotation towards the attack, which is missing in modified, and this only allows the person to cover ONE SIDE, leaving the other side open to attack. It is also true that modified wing chun guys use LINEAR footwork and no rotation, leaving them vulnerable on the centerline to the hook. Traditional wing chun does not have that problem because the rotation towards the attack not only allows you to see the hook coming, but also allows you to stop it, and pulls you away from the attack. This allows us to attack INSTANTANEOUSLY through the CENTRAL LINE protecting both sides at once. Yes, ALL traditional is more internal than modified because it lacks the use of ALL TEN CONCEPTS AT ONCE, which takes out all initial flaws and stiffness found in all other systems that don't use concepts as their GUIDELINE or OUTLINE to how the system should work properly. That, along with the use of the angled step and rotation, allow traditional more flexibility in its use compared to modified or ANY BOXING DERIVATIVE! Of course, you know this already. But most don't realize how important the ten concepts really are! They are, pardon the expression, "The bible of wing chun", explaining how to use the system effectively and efficiently. Without it, flaws become glaring and the system becomes stiff and ineffective. I did a piece I'd like to share with you. It is a long, but complete. It was made about 6 years ago before I started studying wing chun. It is about the ten concepts and their basic use. I did loads of research on it, including the use of the ten concepts. It really helped with my understanding of this great system. I'll leave it below.
Thanks Igor. Actually I was just visiting Australia in this clip. I've ben living in Hong Kong since 2005, but my mum is in Australia so I go back often to visit 😊
Mindful Wing Chun so i am down to deciding which kung fu style to choose from shaolin or wing chun both are good for self defence and fighting and boh can be used in mma and agina no i can't choose both
@@magicmushroom7410 well tell me do you think shaolin kung fu is good and effective for self defense and fighting like wing chun and not just a fitness and health art
@@gerardocovarrubias1127 Weren’t you asking this on the last video too? If you don’t think for yourself and come to TH-cam to help you decide you’ll be hindering your own progress. Just pick one and begin mastering yourself, the more time you waste thinking the less time you’ll be progressing. :)
@@inspiringothers7197 well is just that i have had time choosing from shaolin and wing chun people say shaolin is for self defence and health and fitness not for fighting and wing chun is for self defence and fighting but i have seen and other have told me shaolin is good and effective self defense and fighting
Yes we all have tension in the back and shoulders. Every adult has it due to the way we live. So by releasing the tension and opening up that area we are able to gain better control of the area (upper spine and shoulder blades). We want zero tension in 5hat area 👍🏼
Yes, there is a tangible decompression of the joints. So I can demonstrate it with my spine, shoulder and elbow joint and a person touching the joint will be able to feel the change taking place. Am not sure of which other systems teach that...
To be honest, I think if we go back far enough to ancient China I think majority of the arts taught this. Shaolin martial arts came from India, and from there almost all martial arts branched off from Shaolin, including Tai Chi. So when I was studying many different Chinese martial arts, I've heard them say Tai Gong(提肛) in Shaolin, Praying Mantis, Tai Chi, Hung Gar, Baji etc. The problem is that the meaning has been warped over time, some people think it's a physical clinching of the sphincter, I've met a master that told me to clinch butt at moment of contact with each strike and every time he did it, his eyes would roll up a bit too. As for Tai Chi, there's lots of ancient text as well as living teachers today that teach the same thing that we can see in CST style Wing Chun. The thing known as Nim Tau(念頭) to CST actually has a name in Tai Chi called Ding Ging(頂勁) in Cantonese, they describe it as something that goes up the spine and keeps the head up and it's also focused on the top back side of the skull, or somewhere around there. Tai Chi(and Xingyi, Bagua, Pigua etc) have terms like "sinking shoulders and weighting elbows"(沉肩墜肘) which I think I've heard CST mention in some videos.
@@MindfulWingChun Not only that, think about when you PUNCH! When you punch, the tendons in the back and the shoulder actually STRETCH allowing more power to be produced and the punch, has an extra inch or two reach. This, along with joint alignment, the elbow behind the punch, the triangle, and a strong structure, allow for the production of a lot of power at very short ranges that NO OTHER SYSTEM CAN DO, ESPECIALLY ALL BOXING DERIVATIVES!! This is because they use the ELBOW OUT method, which DISCONNECTS the joint from the socket, causing a drop of power across the gap, much the same as a resistor in a circuit. So this is why they must TORQUE UP to produce ANY power, and they need at least 2 to 3 feet to produce that power! When they do that, they typically go past center, causing an opening we can exploit! That is when you must ENTER IN, after making initial contact!!
if talking about application, elbow strikes are for closer range combat and pushed for slightly further out range. But here I was merely demonstrating the power of the shoulder girdles.
Come on bruh.. Tiger vs Lion who wins? Depends which animals train better.. some train to strike, while other just love the arts.. the output will be very dependable on the user.
@@Linanjaya look im trying to decide which kung fu style to choose from shaolin or wing chun both are good for self defence and fighting and both can be used in mma and agina no i can't choose both
Je prefere le wing chun pour le sparring , encore faut il integrer le wing chun dans cette discipline . Le wing chun est plus efficace que tout le reste , c est la discipline qui m a donné le plus de confiance en moi . Par contre il faut quelques années de pratique , au mokns 3 ou 4 ans , pour bien comprendre le systeme ... avec un bon professeur evidemment .
😂😂😂 you dont understand what mr nima talking about... So check first about him.. learn it.. and you will know.. If you know who he is and learn about it then you will shy for your own comment... 😂
🤣 I know I am exaggerating but isn't that why master Nima tested it on the shoulder instead of the chest, cause it's too dangerous. He literally said "if you can have the precision to make your force stop somewhere in his body, that is gonna have the most damaging effect". Imagining you can make your force stop at the opponent internal organs...🤮
I'm not sure about the whole 'touch of death' thing where they say a person can hit you and aim exactly when for it to have an affect on you (I.e. 2 or 3days), but if a force penetrates into the organs it can definitely do damage. If an organ is damaged badly (i.e. the liver) then there is chance it could fail after some time. Perhaps there was cases where this happened to people and then it became a legend and people thought that someone could really hit you with such precision and intent to know exactly when your body would feel the effects and possibly lead to death. Personally, I dont believe in the 'touch of death' 😄
@@MindfulWingChun there is a difference between Dim Mak being points of pressure ie acupressure and perhaps at some level of being able to deliver your whole force through two fingers into say a heart muscle or temple or say neck corroded artery. Not sure even CST could do that. I reckon your finger/s would break first. In theory it's possible.
@@darkhorse888 not too sure man. definitely CST would mess someone's organs up possibly to failure if he hit full power, but what I don't believe about Dim Mak is the ability to hit with such precision in a very dynamic scenario which is a real fight. So not too sure about it...
Most don't realize the Short force is the staple of WC,not just limited to the 1 and 3 inch punch. Great Job!
Very true. thanks :)
Sifu dropped his elbow on me and it was an arrow of force going through me. I felt it go out my back. It was crazy. Thanks for the share.
nice!!
The cinematography on this video is on point.
you did well ol' timer. you did well!
Very same with my concept... I can understand very clearly... Thx for explaination..🙏
You are my favourite.. 👍👍
haha, thanks man 🙏🏼
It reminded me of breaking a board or a tile in Karate there set of mind was to "VISION" the other side of the board even they would make a circular mark on it and then they would say to see it in your mind and sent your punch in a way to only reach the Circle and that is how you break hard materials, also in Japan they call it the "Demak" sending that energy to a specific depth
In any case the secret seams to be the Yin and Yang from soft to hard , in my early years I practiced hours and hours on a candle trying to "SEND" my energy and focusing it on the light every time I relaxed took a deep breath and let the tension out of my lower body I blew out the candle but when I tried hard to do it with muscle power nothing and I mean nothing happened.
Thanx for the information it means a lot to me personally.
Nice, Thanks for sharing hamid. Glad you found the info helpful too
That elbow force you talk about is caused by the use of MULTIPLE VECTOR ANGLES which cause the opponent to rely on smaller stabilizer muscles instead of the larger muscles of the chest, back and shoulder. This is why ALL our techniques work! Even the corkscrewing motion of the techniques causes multiple vector angle changes and the arm rides over the opponent's arm and energy is GRADUALLY released! This is why we can take very hard hits because we don't take the force directly, and the force is slowly released over a larger distance.
Spiral the line; return to the "spine". Energy over movement, focus over force. Conformation of energy is also a key many neglect. Pressure = force/area. So, softness allows conformation, which increases area [thereby decreasing force].
Good man. Wing Chun is an energy-based art, NOT a movement-based art. And energy is directed by intention [the mind]. I can tell you truly consider the system.
@@mightymeatmonsta
Yes, I meant both. Just adding the element of softness which allows control. Wing Chun is both hard and soft in nature.
@@hiddenpathwingchun5045 Some are just INTERNAL, such as Sifu Mox! They are a little different because they try to use NO force at all!
@@mightymeatmonsta
Our "hard" force should be specific along our line of attack [elbows and knees], then released immediately upon transfer of energy. This is so energy doesn't feed back, but also for efficiency and effortlessness.
Our hard force is like a nail-gun driven from the elbow. Hard via structure, only tightened upon contact [driving energy]. Loose immediately so our opponent is unable to use our line to affect our center.
I'm third generation Ip Man via a closed-door student of Duncan Leung [himself a closed-door student]. Most do not understand the system. However, the majority err to the side of "hard" energy rather than softness. We need both and to understand "why" so we know "when".
I feel the CST lineage is very important because it is one of the few [openly] acknowledging the internal aspects of the art. I was taught with a focus on these as well as pressure points and hidden applications. I say: trust the Ip Man system: much is hidden in the forms. But the forms do NOT teach the applications. They are an examination of tools and "our" energy. Only then can we begin to "build". Structure is the "middle man" for state.
Only once we ponder and trust the system with humility do we discover what so many have lost.
I love your obvious passion for the art. It is worth such passion. But it hides from our pride by it's very nature. Wing Chun is the Way of Wisdom.
@@hiddenpathwingchun5045 EXCELLENT! I agree with everything you just said! Right! I use the analogy of a dent puller, whose energy is cumulative and at the end, concentrated into the bottom two knuckles. You can also use the analogy of a wet towel whipping or the action of the whip. Our energy starts out relaxed, then we tense upon impact, going about two inches past the point of contact, hitting first with the bottom three knuckles, then after going in two inches, cock the fist so the energy concentrates much as a laser does (three beams into one beam), imparting the concentrated energy upon a major organ or soft target. I like breaking it down so even the rank beginner can understand what I am saying! Cho Shu Tin is one of the original five who learned the traditional from Ip Man. The other was William Cheung, and three others who live in Malaysia and Thailand (sorry, can't remember their names). If you notice, ALL traditional systems use the angled step and body rotation towards the attack, which is missing in modified, and this only allows the person to cover ONE SIDE, leaving the other side open to attack. It is also true that modified wing chun guys use LINEAR footwork and no rotation, leaving them vulnerable on the centerline to the hook. Traditional wing chun does not have that problem because the rotation towards the attack not only allows you to see the hook coming, but also allows you to stop it, and pulls you away from the attack. This allows us to attack INSTANTANEOUSLY through the CENTRAL LINE protecting both sides at once. Yes, ALL traditional is more internal than modified because it lacks the use of ALL TEN CONCEPTS AT ONCE, which takes out all initial flaws and stiffness found in all other systems that don't use concepts as their GUIDELINE or OUTLINE to how the system should work properly. That, along with the use of the angled step and rotation, allow traditional more flexibility in its use compared to modified or ANY BOXING DERIVATIVE! Of course, you know this already. But most don't realize how important the ten concepts really are! They are, pardon the expression, "The bible of wing chun", explaining how to use the system effectively and efficiently. Without it, flaws become glaring and the system becomes stiff and ineffective. I did a piece I'd like to share with you. It is a long, but complete. It was made about 6 years ago before I started studying wing chun. It is about the ten concepts and their basic use. I did loads of research on it, including the use of the ten concepts. It really helped with my understanding of this great system. I'll leave it below.
That is some sharp elbows strike, would not like to take one of those from you Sifu Nima.
Haha, they are controlled so you definitely wont get injured, maybe just a bruise for a couple of days 👍🙏
Brilliant video - not related, but do whipping punches get taught in your system? Do they actually work?
Hi Akbar, no we don't use the whipping type punches in our system. But yes they can produce a lot of power if done correctly.
HI Nima I like your style, if I was still in Australia for sure I will like training whit you!
Thanks Igor. Actually I was just visiting Australia in this clip. I've ben living in Hong Kong since 2005, but my mum is in Australia so I go back often to visit 😊
whats the name of the intro and outro song. very nice winchun by the way.
its called Relaxed State of Mind and was bought from a royalty-free music site many years ago :)
nice!
Cheers Rick
Mindful Wing Chun so i am down to deciding which kung fu style to choose from shaolin or wing chun both are good for self defence and fighting and boh can be used in mma and agina no i can't choose both
You should give both a try for a week or two to see which one you find more interesting.
@@magicmushroom7410 well tell me do you think shaolin kung fu is good and effective for self defense and fighting like wing chun and not just a fitness and health art
@@gerardocovarrubias1127 Weren’t you asking this on the last video too? If you don’t think for yourself and come to TH-cam to help you decide you’ll be hindering your own progress. Just pick one and begin mastering yourself, the more time you waste thinking the less time you’ll be progressing. :)
@@inspiringothers7197 well is just that i have had time choosing from shaolin and wing chun people say shaolin is for self defence and health and fitness not for fighting and wing chun is for self defence and fighting but i have seen and other have told me shaolin is good and effective self defense and fighting
Try both. Whichever one feels better is the one for you. The more interested you are the more you will commit to it.
Hi Sifu is it muscular tension that’s holding the shoulder blade the minimum amount of tension
Yes we all have tension in the back and shoulders. Every adult has it due to the way we live. So by releasing the tension and opening up that area we are able to gain better control of the area (upper spine and shoulder blades). We want zero tension in 5hat area 👍🏼
Thanks Sifu that helps
Sorry, also - Re. Opening joints, do the joints literally open? Other than CST what other art teaches this?
Yes, there is a tangible decompression of the joints. So I can demonstrate it with my spine, shoulder and elbow joint and a person touching the joint will be able to feel the change taking place.
Am not sure of which other systems teach that...
To be honest, I think if we go back far enough to ancient China I think majority of the arts taught this. Shaolin martial arts came from India, and from there almost all martial arts branched off from Shaolin, including Tai Chi. So when I was studying many different Chinese martial arts, I've heard them say Tai Gong(提肛) in Shaolin, Praying Mantis, Tai Chi, Hung Gar, Baji etc. The problem is that the meaning has been warped over time, some people think it's a physical clinching of the sphincter, I've met a master that told me to clinch butt at moment of contact with each strike and every time he did it, his eyes would roll up a bit too.
As for Tai Chi, there's lots of ancient text as well as living teachers today that teach the same thing that we can see in CST style Wing Chun. The thing known as Nim Tau(念頭) to CST actually has a name in Tai Chi called Ding Ging(頂勁) in Cantonese, they describe it as something that goes up the spine and keeps the head up and it's also focused on the top back side of the skull, or somewhere around there. Tai Chi(and Xingyi, Bagua, Pigua etc) have terms like "sinking shoulders and weighting elbows"(沉肩墜肘) which I think I've heard CST mention in some videos.
@@MindfulWingChun Not only that, think about when you PUNCH! When you punch, the tendons in the back and the shoulder actually STRETCH allowing more power to be produced and the punch, has an extra inch or two reach. This, along with joint alignment, the elbow behind the punch, the triangle, and a strong structure, allow for the production of a lot of power at very short ranges that NO OTHER SYSTEM CAN DO, ESPECIALLY ALL BOXING DERIVATIVES!! This is because they use the ELBOW OUT method, which DISCONNECTS the joint from the socket, causing a drop of power across the gap, much the same as a resistor in a circuit. So this is why they must TORQUE UP to produce ANY power, and they need at least 2 to 3 feet to produce that power! When they do that, they typically go past center, causing an opening we can exploit! That is when you must ENTER IN, after making initial contact!!
😍 I wanna get that punch! I'm coming next week 👍
😅 excellent! You can punch me though Nathalie
Why elbow when you can punch them
if talking about application, elbow strikes are for closer range combat and pushed for slightly further out range.
But here I was merely demonstrating the power of the shoulder girdles.
@@MindfulWingChun I know elbow is for close range , most people don’t realise this hence my comment, keep the vids coming
@@PooleAcademyofWingChun 👍🏼🙏🏼
🙏☯️
👊🏼🙏🏼
also wing chun vs sanda who would win
Come on bruh..
Tiger vs Lion who wins? Depends which animals train better.. some train to strike, while other just love the arts.. the output will be very dependable on the user.
@@Linanjaya look im trying to decide which kung fu style to choose from shaolin or wing chun both are good for self defence and fighting and both can be used in mma and agina no i can't choose both
Je prefere le wing chun pour le sparring , encore faut il integrer le wing chun dans cette discipline .
Le wing chun est plus efficace que tout le reste , c est la discipline qui m a donné le plus de confiance en moi .
Par contre il faut quelques années de pratique , au mokns 3 ou 4 ans , pour bien comprendre le systeme ... avec un bon professeur evidemment .
@@yannkeraudren1433 qu'en est-il du shaolin kung fu est-il bon et efficace pour la légitime défense et les combats comme le wing chun oui ou non
😂😂😂😂😂....
Wing chun Not Good for Street fight.
it did okay for me in my bouncing years...
Is that the hidden force that the legend says? A master hit you and 3 days later you cough blood and drop dead.
😂😂😂 you dont understand what mr nima talking about... So check first about him.. learn it.. and you will know..
If you know who he is and learn about it then you will shy for your own comment... 😂
🤣 I know I am exaggerating but isn't that why master Nima tested it on the shoulder instead of the chest, cause it's too dangerous. He literally said "if you can have the precision to make your force stop somewhere in his body, that is gonna have the most damaging effect". Imagining you can make your force stop at the opponent internal organs...🤮
I'm not sure about the whole 'touch of death' thing where they say a person can hit you and aim exactly when for it to have an affect on you (I.e. 2 or 3days), but if a force penetrates into the organs it can definitely do damage. If an organ is damaged badly (i.e. the liver) then there is chance it could fail after some time.
Perhaps there was cases where this happened to people and then it became a legend and people thought that someone could really hit you with such precision and intent to know exactly when your body would feel the effects and possibly lead to death.
Personally, I dont believe in the 'touch of death' 😄
@@MindfulWingChun there is a difference between Dim Mak being points of pressure ie acupressure and perhaps at some level of being able to deliver your whole force through two fingers into say a heart muscle or temple or say neck corroded artery. Not sure even CST could do that. I reckon your finger/s would break first. In theory it's possible.
@@darkhorse888 not too sure man. definitely CST would mess someone's organs up possibly to failure if he hit full power, but what I don't believe about Dim Mak is the ability to hit with such precision in a very dynamic scenario which is a real fight. So not too sure about it...