A question the community should ask itself, is how much should the lore be stretched in order to accommodate the story? Yeah, with prior material that's been presented I'm surprised that every Marine there, aside from the deuteragonist, died. But, it obviously wouldn't be as compelling a story if, say, four of them lived and wandered around the city. There just wouldn't be as much connection with Sa'kan or with the Sister later on.
In lore yeah it's surprising only one survived but that's how it is sometimes, all that training, conditioning, gear and implantations and sometimes your luck is just shit, hell look at the Lamenters. For every story we read about Space Marines getting through impossible situations, there's gonna be some Space Marines that got dealt a crap hand.
Half of them were impaled on metal beams some were crushed a couple just got stuck in the seats from the looks of it and burned the pilots idk about them probably died from impact I’m new to the warhammer lore and Stuff so don’t take what I’m saying to be a fact or true
The scene becomes a bit more jarring when you consider that half a dozen space marines are said to be enough to conquer a planet like current Earth, which makes this crash a ridiculous loss from a single shot. At least the surviving Salamander got the chance to live up to their martial reputation.
Armour does very little when it comes to forces being exerted on the body. From extreme speed to 0, you need to have some kind of buffer or slowing mechanism, armour is designed to be dense and solid.
Not to mention, blunt trauma from that crash would have dismembered/crumbled mortal bodies, whereas marines were intact (tho most dead due to impalement), albeit the survivor has injuries and his primary(?) heart died out.
Ah the “crash kills everyone that probably shouldn’t have died from it anyways, except our MC” seriously. How convenient is it that all of his buddies got implaed by something in their apparently super tough armor
No offense but did you ever had a moment that you had the spotlight? Like an old war veteran that survived ww2 and told stories? And people would make a show about it and share to audiences. You musn't complain on such a common thing, ignore or be silent if you don't enjoy it otherwise.
An imperial fist concluded he would've died likely died from jumping off the walls while patrolling the walls of the imperial palace. A nightlord was mortally wounded and would've died from being tossed from the walls during the seige of Terra. People forget space marine armor is HEAVY and all that weight is gonna crush you when you crash into the ground at high-speeds. Reinforced skeleton or no.
The funny thing is that space marines basically do not care if they get blown out of the sky like that. Their armor and physical toughness at least will keep them alive in most situations. Them all dying shows two things: 1) Bad writing; 2) Low budget;
You need to read the lore. They definitely do. One concluded he would likely die if he fell off the walls of the imperial palace. Another one was about to die for doing the same thing. All that weight of space marine armor is going to crush them in their armor if they abruptly stop like that too quickly.
@@insidious7329 Read lore, which part exactly? In the lore, blowing up a transport vehicle do not kill terminators inside and they just claw their way out of the wreck. Physics do not work that way. It does not matter how much internal weight armor has. G forces will be the same. Space marine armor on the other hand prevents piercing trauma by shielding from falling on sharp objects. It also greatly mitigates blunt trauma as armor would spread force of impact a lot more evenly. Combine that with that space marines are not freefalling and being in a drop pod or thunderhawk, their freefall effect due to their mass is completely negated.
@REgamesplayer You know that terminator Armor and Mark X armor the primaris wears ain't the same right ? That's like the entire point It's worn for lol. G force is the pressure you're feeling as gravity is acting on your body on earth. Not only is this a whole nother PLANET. But this really only applies to the forces experienced while they were flying in the Thunderhawk. It's what pliots, and astronauts experience, when transitioning through the atmosphere. And space marine armor isn't proof against anything. It's resistant to to it. Nor does it fully mitigate physical blows. Otherwise the melee weapons they always use against each other would be pointless because they'd be impervious to physical trauma you claim they should. You hit a marine with a power hammer that's gonna get you one dead marine same with a power sword, and a marine drops from on high enough they're gonna die.
@@insidious7329 This is why I called different armor by a different name. I think that should be self evident that I know the difference. What is the point of your paragraph about G-force? You know that an ordinary human can survive G-forces from THE WHOLE PLANET? Yeah, it is pretty much proof against a lot of things. If you get a solid piece of metal, it will be proof against a lot of stuff. This is because metal is a lot denser than wood. Thus when it would try to penetrate with a sharp corner, that corner would get blunted and space marine would either stop moving, destroy that object which impacted or they both would get deflected. This is why it is unrealistic that a space marine is being impaled by the debris. No debris would have enough penetrative force from outside to penetrate plane's armor and then space marine's chestplate. Same thing is from within. There is simply no object resulting from collision with enough kinetic force to penetrate battle armor. You forget that this armor is rated against auto-cannon hits. It can withstand heavy bolters. It has protection against specialized armor piercing small caliber rounds. The fact that random objects can penetrate it is unrealistic. From where you got that example of power hammer? Nobody was talking about combat.
@REgamesplayer Then why are you comparing terminator Armor surviving the destruction of a transport to Mark X as if it's the same thing ? Either you're insinuating it should because terminator armor is or your bringing up irrelevant information. And I'm explaining G forces because you misunderstand what G forces does and exactly why it is irrelevant. And no it isn't. That's a very vague and untrue statement. An Aluminum can isn't proof against a bending and deformation, neither is a paperclip or a spoon. You say it's proof against against something when it's clearly not. Read the lore because much of the blades bolter rounds, or anything else that kills plenty of space marines that you claim should be deflected or blunted is. You're completely wrong.A marine is less likely to survive the material penetrating the marines who aren't nowhere near as tough as the Thunderhawk smashing it together around them.
If someone asks why marines pilot Thunderhawks instead of regular humans, show them this scene. Any human would pass out in the situation.
They are human i declare you hertic for calls Empire Angels inhuman indirectly
@@ashishjadhav5169You dare claim that the Emperor's Angels are but mere humans? I should rip out your lying tongue, heretic.
there is one but not the other sometimes
Well the space marines died so I don't think this is the "proof" you want to champion here.
@@insidious7329 If the human pilots would pass out, we would have lost the main hero
Space ship: actively crashing
Every Marine on board:🗿
Classic🤣🤣😪
Space Marines: "man, we hate Tuesdays"
A question the community should ask itself, is how much should the lore be stretched in order to accommodate the story? Yeah, with prior material that's been presented I'm surprised that every Marine there, aside from the deuteragonist, died. But, it obviously wouldn't be as compelling a story if, say, four of them lived and wandered around the city. There just wouldn't be as much connection with Sa'kan or with the Sister later on.
In lore yeah it's surprising only one survived but that's how it is sometimes, all that training, conditioning, gear and implantations and sometimes your luck is just shit, hell look at the Lamenters. For every story we read about Space Marines getting through impossible situations, there's gonna be some Space Marines that got dealt a crap hand.
@@collecter343sure, but they can do better then “plane crash” I mean the sisters of battle getting surrounded was more believable and acceptable
Half of them were impaled on metal beams some were crushed a couple just got stuck in the seats from the looks of it and burned the pilots idk about them probably died from impact I’m new to the warhammer lore and Stuff so don’t take what I’m saying to be a fact or true
The scene becomes a bit more jarring when you consider that half a dozen space marines are said to be enough to conquer a planet like current Earth, which makes this crash a ridiculous loss from a single shot. At least the surviving Salamander got the chance to live up to their martial reputation.
@@Nickname-ef9tvwho says that kind of nonsense?
Not enough budget to have many salamanders on the show
That's right get mad
How many points was the list?
@@banishedpest115 Including the Thunderhawk, more than a combat patrol.
But, their allied SoB's bulk them out.
If you ever go skydiving with a friend that hasn't been, show them this right before the jump.
If Master Chief could survive falling onto a planet from literal space… I imagine the space marines would have fared a lot better.
Sigh. Master Chief survivd because he used a door from one of the Forerunner warships. A keyship. He didnt fall through the atmosphere on his own.
And Mjolnir has a borderline magical gel layer than can absorb far more force from an impact then it should be abe to.
@@bengeorge9063 what about Halo Reach where Noble 6 was thrown put of the ship in space by Jorge and landed on Reach.
he had a jet pack
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@@TheGreatThicc Isnt that also inconjuction with the ability to armor lock his suit?
If only they have the ejection seat...
Guess only Sa'Kan braced for impact.
I think he’s actually the one who got blown out
ASs hard and impenetrable their armour is, should they have suffered that much damage and died?
Armour does very little when it comes to forces being exerted on the body. From extreme speed to 0, you need to have some kind of buffer or slowing mechanism, armour is designed to be dense and solid.
@@banishedpest115 Right.
Not to mention, blunt trauma from that crash would have dismembered/crumbled mortal bodies, whereas marines were intact (tho most dead due to impalement), albeit the survivor has injuries and his primary(?) heart died out.
Human become so weak after dark age of technology they were type 4 civilization
Story would have been vastly different if 2 space marines survived the crash
How many episodes will there be ?
Human become so weak after dark age of technology they were type 4 civilization level
I see arcane tooknote
Alter New contenr
Ah the “crash kills everyone that probably shouldn’t have died from it anyways, except our MC” seriously. How convenient is it that all of his buddies got implaed by something in their apparently super tough armor
No offense but did you ever had a moment that you had the spotlight?
Like an old war veteran that survived ww2 and told stories?
And people would make a show about it and share to audiences.
You musn't complain on such a common thing, ignore or be silent if you don't enjoy it otherwise.
@@jukebox581 bro, it’s a narrative cliche, shut up
An imperial fist concluded he would've died likely died from jumping off the walls while patrolling the walls of the imperial palace.
A nightlord was mortally wounded and would've died from being tossed from the walls during the seige of Terra.
People forget space marine armor is HEAVY and all that weight is gonna crush you when you crash into the ground at high-speeds. Reinforced skeleton or no.
Just to be clear, I am not certain if wether or not one would at least survive but just wanted to point out that it happens
The funny thing is that space marines basically do not care if they get blown out of the sky like that. Their armor and physical toughness at least will keep them alive in most situations. Them all dying shows two things:
1) Bad writing;
2) Low budget;
You need to read the lore. They definitely do. One concluded he would likely die if he fell off the walls of the imperial palace. Another one was about to die for doing the same thing.
All that weight of space marine armor is going to crush them in their armor if they abruptly stop like that too quickly.
@@insidious7329 Read lore, which part exactly? In the lore, blowing up a transport vehicle do not kill terminators inside and they just claw their way out of the wreck.
Physics do not work that way. It does not matter how much internal weight armor has. G forces will be the same. Space marine armor on the other hand prevents piercing trauma by shielding from falling on sharp objects. It also greatly mitigates blunt trauma as armor would spread force of impact a lot more evenly. Combine that with that space marines are not freefalling and being in a drop pod or thunderhawk, their freefall effect due to their mass is completely negated.
@REgamesplayer You know that terminator Armor and Mark X armor the primaris wears ain't the same right ? That's like the entire point It's worn for lol.
G force is the pressure you're feeling as gravity is acting on your body on earth. Not only is this a whole nother PLANET. But this really only applies to the forces experienced while they were flying in the Thunderhawk. It's what pliots, and astronauts experience, when transitioning through the atmosphere.
And space marine armor isn't proof against anything. It's resistant to to it. Nor does it fully mitigate physical blows. Otherwise the melee weapons they always use against each other would be pointless because they'd be impervious to physical trauma you claim they should.
You hit a marine with a power hammer that's gonna get you one dead marine same with a power sword, and a marine drops from on high enough they're gonna die.
@@insidious7329 This is why I called different armor by a different name. I think that should be self evident that I know the difference.
What is the point of your paragraph about G-force? You know that an ordinary human can survive G-forces from THE WHOLE PLANET?
Yeah, it is pretty much proof against a lot of things. If you get a solid piece of metal, it will be proof against a lot of stuff. This is because metal is a lot denser than wood. Thus when it would try to penetrate with a sharp corner, that corner would get blunted and space marine would either stop moving, destroy that object which impacted or they both would get deflected. This is why it is unrealistic that a space marine is being impaled by the debris. No debris would have enough penetrative force from outside to penetrate plane's armor and then space marine's chestplate. Same thing is from within. There is simply no object resulting from collision with enough kinetic force to penetrate battle armor.
You forget that this armor is rated against auto-cannon hits. It can withstand heavy bolters. It has protection against specialized armor piercing small caliber rounds. The fact that random objects can penetrate it is unrealistic.
From where you got that example of power hammer? Nobody was talking about combat.
@REgamesplayer Then why are you comparing terminator Armor surviving the destruction of a transport to Mark X as if it's the same thing ? Either you're insinuating it should because terminator armor is or your bringing up irrelevant information.
And I'm explaining G forces because you misunderstand what G forces does and exactly why it is irrelevant.
And no it isn't. That's a very vague and untrue statement. An Aluminum can isn't proof against a bending and deformation, neither is a paperclip or a spoon.
You say it's proof against against something when it's clearly not. Read the lore because much of the blades bolter rounds, or anything else that kills plenty of space marines that you claim should be deflected or blunted is.
You're completely wrong.A marine is less likely to survive the material penetrating the marines who aren't nowhere near as tough as the Thunderhawk smashing it together around them.